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		<title>Chuang Tzu -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My greatest happiness consists precisely in doing nothing whatever that is calculated to obtain happiness. In Thomas Merton, The Way of Chuang Tzu, &#8220;Perfect Joy&#8221; (1965)]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My greatest happiness consists precisely in doing nothing whatever that is calculated to obtain happiness.</p>
<br><b>Chuang Tzu</b> (369-286 BC) Chinese Taoist philosopher [Zhuang Zhou (莊周), Zhuangzi ( 莊子)]<br>(Attributed) 
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						In Thomas Merton, <i>The Way of Chuang Tzu</i>, "Perfect Joy" (1965)						</span>
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		<title>Chuang Tzu -- On Leveling All Things</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Granting that you and I argue. If you get the better of me, and not I of you, are you necessarily right and I wrong? Or if I get the better of you and not you of me, am I necessarily right and you wrong? Or are we both partly right and partly wrong? Or [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granting that you and I argue.  If you get the better of me, and not I of you, are you necessarily right and I wrong?  Or if I get the better of you and not you of me, am I necessarily right and you wrong?  Or are we both partly right and partly wrong?  Or are we both wholly right and wholly wrong?  You and I cannot know this, and consequently we all live in darkness.</p>
<br><b>Chuang Tzu</b> (369-286 BC) Chinese Taoist philosopher [Zhuang Zhou (莊周), Zhuangzi ( 莊子)]<br><i>On Leveling All Things</i> 
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		<title>Chuang Tzu -- Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzŭ), ch. 10 &#8220;Quqie [胠篋; Rifling Trunks]&#8221; (3rd C BC) [tr. Graham (1981)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The man who steals a buckle is put to death, the man who steals a state becomes a prince. [竊鉤者誅，竊國者侯 &#8211; traditional] [窃钩者诛，窃国者侯 &#8211; simplified] See O&#8217;Neill (1921). (Source (Chinese, traditional; simplified)). Alternate translations: One man steals a purse, and is punished. Another steals a State, and becomes a Prince. [tr. Giles (1889)] Here is [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who steals a buckle is put to death, the man who steals a state becomes a prince.</p>
<p>[竊鉤者誅，竊國者侯 &#8211; traditional]<br />
[窃钩者诛，窃国者侯 &#8211; simplified]</p>
<br><b>Chuang Tzu</b> (369-286 BC) Chinese Taoist philosopher [Zhuang Zhou (莊周), Zhuangzi ( 莊子)]<br><i>Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzŭ)</i>, ch. 10 <i>&#8220;Quqie</i> [胠篋; Rifling Trunks]&#8221; (3rd C BC) [tr. Graham</a> (1981)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inner_Chapters/LVWfDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22man+who+steals+a+buckle+is+put%22&pg=PA208&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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See <a href="https://wist.info/oneill-eugene/35652/">O'Neill</a> (1921).<br><br>

(Source (<a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/zh-hans/%E7%AB%8A%E9%89%A4%E8%80%85%E8%AA%85%EF%BC%8C%E7%AB%8A%E5%9C%8B%E8%80%85%E4%BE%AF#:~:text=%E7%B9%81%E4%BD%93%EF%BC%9A-,%E7%AB%8A%20%E9%89%A4%20%E8%80%85%20%E8%AA%85%20%EF%BC%8C%20%E7%AB%8A%20%E5%9C%8B%20%E8%80%85%20%E4%BE%AF,-%E8%AF%8D%E6%BA%90%5B%E7%BC%96%E8%BE%91">Chinese, traditional</a>; <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/zh-hans/%E7%AB%8A%E9%89%A4%E8%80%85%E8%AA%85%EF%BC%8C%E7%AB%8A%E5%9C%8B%E8%80%85%E4%BE%AF#:~:text=%E7%AE%80%E4%BD%93%EF%BC%9A-,%E7%AA%83%20%E9%92%A9%20%E8%80%85%20%E8%AF%9B%20%EF%BC%8C%20%E7%AA%83%20%E5%9B%BD%20%E8%80%85%20%E4%BE%AF,-%E7%B9%81%E4%BD%93%EF%BC%9A%E7%AB%8A">simplified</a>)). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>One man steals a purse, and is punished. Another steals a State, and becomes a Prince.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Chuang_Tz%C5%AD_(Giles)/Chapter_10#:~:text=One%20man%20steals%20a%20purse%2C%20and%20is%20punished.%20Another%20steals%20a%20State%2C%20and%20becomes%20a%20Prince.">Giles</a> (1889)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here is one who steals a hook (for his girdle); -- he is put to death for it: here is another who steals a state; -- he becomes its prince.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://terebess.hu/english/texttaoism4.html#:~:text=Here%20is%20one%20who%20steals%20a%20hook%20(for%20his%20girdle)%3B%2D%2Dhe%20is%20put%20to%20death%20for%20it%3A%20here%20is%20another%20who%20steals%20a%20state%3B%2D%2Dhe%20becomes%20its%20prince.">Legge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A poor man must swing<br>
For stealing a belt buckle<br>
But if a rich man steals a whole state<br>
He is acclaimed<br>
As statesman of the year.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Way_of_Chuang_Tz%C5%AD/LDOCZPyg2MQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20poor%20man%20must%20swing%22">Merton</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>This one steals a buckle and he is executed, that one steals a country and he becomes its ruler.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Book_of_Chuang_Tzu/zxDDmcmVr6EC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22this%20one%20steals%20a%20buckle%22">Palmer</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He who steals a belt buckle pays with his life; he who steals a state gets to be a feudal lord.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Complete_Works_of_Zhuangzi/kWasAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22He%20who%20steals%20a%20belt%20buckle%22">Watson</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One steals a hook -- he is put to death. Another steals a state -- he becomes a prince.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Zhuangzi/5mEqAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22one%20steals%20a%20hook%22">Yang/Höchsmann</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He who steals a belt buckle is executed, but he who steals a state is made a feudal lord.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Zhuangzi_The_Essential_Writings_with_Sel/jr9i1D-9lAoC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22he%20who%20steals%20a%20belt%20buckle%22">Ziporyn</a> (2009)]</blockquote><br>


This adage can be found in a wide array of forms, with the same basic structure (steal something small, get punished; steal something big, get rewarded), usually stripped of its Chinese/Taoist origin, e.g.:<br><br>

<blockquote>Steal money you're a thief; steal a country you're a king. <br>
[<a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/394050933/Japanese-Proverbs">"Japanese proverb"</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Stealing a dog is said to be immoral. Still, they steal a country and call it righteousness.<br>
[<a href="https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%9C%A0%EB%AA%85%20%EC%96%B4%EB%A1%9D#:~:text=Stealing%20a%20dog%20is%20said%20to%20be%20immoral.%20Still%2C%20they%20steal%20a%20country%20and%20call%20it%20righteousness.">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>To steal a purse is rightly held a crime. <br>
To steal a country is an act sublime.<br>
[<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t8pc31r5t&seq=6&q1=%22steal+a+purse%22">Percy Russell</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One who steals a pearl is persecuted as a thief. One who steals a nation is revered as a king.<br>
[<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/james-kong-6381576_dont-know-why-adam-neumann-is-not-in-jail-activity-7178368010439557120-y3qg#:~:text=One%20who%20steals%20a%20pearl%20is%20persecuted%20as%20a%20thief.%20One%20who%20steals%20a%20nation%20is%20revered%20as%20a%20king.">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When you steal a pin, you are executed; but if you steal a country, you become a king. <br>
[Chinese historian <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015062732618&seq=6&q1=%22steal+a+country%22">Sima Qian</a> (c. 145 – c. 86 BC)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>One who steals a little is a thief. One who steals a little bit more is a robber. And one who steals a nation is a king.<br>
[<a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRECB-1967-pt14/pdf/GPO-CRECB-1967-pt14-6-1.pdf">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To steal a fruit means theft, while to steal a country does not.<br>
["<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=dul1.ark:/13960/t0hv5d238&seq=6&q1=%22steal+a+country%22">Old Chinese saying</a>"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those that steal a loaf of bread are hanged as thieves - those that steal a country are made emperor.<br>
[<a href="https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/should-bush-and-cheney-be-impeached.573254/page-4#:~:text=Those%20that%20steal%20a%20loaf%20of%20bread%20are%20hanged%20as%20thieves%20%2D%20those%20that%20steal%20a%20country%20are%20made%20emperor.">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Steal an apple and you're a thief. Steal a country and you're a statesman.<br>
<i>[<a href="https://www.tumblr.com/psychoticful/186841349427/steal-an-apple-and-youre-a-thief-steal-a">Disney's Aladdin</a></i> (2019)]</blockquote><br>
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