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		<title>Accius -- Atreus (fragment 168) [tr. Kline (2010)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let them hate me, so long as they fear me. [Óderint, dum métuant.] A fragment from Accius&#8217; work, known only by its quotation by others. The phrase was often used by classical writers as a hallmark of a tyrannical ruler. This includes: Cicero, Pro Sestio, 48/102 (where he regrets that Accius had &#8220;used words for [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><em>[Óderint, dum métuant.]</em></p>
<br><b>Accius</b> (170-c. 86 BC) Roman tragic poet, literary scholar [Lucius Accius, Lucius Attius]<br><i>Atreus</i> (fragment 168) [tr. Kline (2010)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Suetonius4.php#anchor_Toc276122123:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20so%20long%20as%20they%20fear%20me." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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A fragment from Accius' work, known only by its quotation by others. The phrase was often used by classical writers as a hallmark of a tyrannical ruler.  This includes:

<ul>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0014%3Atext%3DSest.%3Asection%3D102#:~:text=%E2%80%9Co/derint%2C%20dum%20me/tuant%3B">Cicero, <i>Pro Sestio</i>, 48/102</a> (where he regrets that Accius had "used words for evil-minded men to lay hold of").</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0011:text=Phil.:speech=1:chapter=14&highlight=oderint">Cicero, <i>Philippics</i> 1.14</a></li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0047:book=1:section=97&highlight=oderint">Cicero, <i>De Officiis</i>, 1.28/97</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0014:book=1:chapter=20&highlight=oderint#:~:text=Oderint%2C%20dum%20metuant">Seneca the Younger, <i>De Ira</i>, 1.20.4</a> (referring to the line as "dread and abominable").</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0015:book=1:chapter=12&highlight=oderint">Seneca the Younger, <i>De Clementia</i>, 1.12</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0132:life=cal.:chapter=30&highlight=oderint">Suetonius, <em>Life of Caligula,</em> 30.1</a> (noting that the emperor liked to quote it).</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0132:life=tib.:chapter=59&highlight=oderint">Suetonius, <em>Life of Tiberius</em>, 59</a> (quoting Caligula, and contrasting to Tiberius use of the similar <em>Oderint dum probent</em> ("Let them hate me so long as they approve [of my deeds]").</li>
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(<a href="https://archive.org/details/L314RemainsOfOldLatinIILiviusAndonicusNaeviusPacuviusAccius/page/n413/mode/2up?q=%22oderint+dum+metuant%22">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations (from the above works):<br><br>

<blockquote>Ev'n let them hate me, whilst they dread me too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/officeswithlaeli00cice/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22Ev%27n+let+them+hate%22">Cockman</a> (1699)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, provided they fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Treatise_of_Cicero_De_Officiis_Or_Hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20them%20hate%22">McCartney</a> (1798)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, so they fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_s_Three_Books_of_Offices/5ZZJAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20them%20hate%22">Edmonds</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I scorn their hatred, if they do but fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/6389/pg6389-images.html#:~:text=I%20scorn%20their%20hatred%2C%20if%20they%20do%20but%20fear%20me.">Thomson</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No matter how they hate me while they fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/cicero-on-moral-duties-de-officiis#:~:text=No%20matter%20how%20they%20hate%20me%20while%20they%20fear%20me">Peabody</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate, provided they fear me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/M_T_Ciceronis_oratio_pro_P_Sestio_tr_by/ro5o55KcLXQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20them%20hate%22">Hickie</a> (1888)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, as long as they fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0020%3Atext%3DSest.%3Asection%3D102#:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20as%20long%20as%20they%20fear.">Yonge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Let them hate, so long as they fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiis00cicegoog/page/n65/mode/2up?q=%22let+them+hate%22">Gardiner</a> (1899)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, provided they fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Anger/Book_I#XX.:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20provided%20they%20fear%20me">Stewart</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why, let them hate me, if they fear me too!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Clemency/Book_I#XII.:~:text=Why%2C%20let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20if%20they%20fear%20me%20too!">Stewart</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What care I though all men should hate my name,<br>
So long as fear accompanies their hate?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0021%3Aspeech%3D1%3Achapter%3D14#:~:text=What%20care%20I%20though%20all%20men%20should%20hate%20my%20name%2C%0ASo%20long%20as%20fear%20accompanies%20their%20hate">Yonge</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate provided that they fear.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22provided%20that%20they%20fear%22">Harbottle</a> (1906); tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Seneca_Moral_and_Political_Essays/k0zEAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20them%20hate%20provided%22">Cooper</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, so they but fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Suetonius/12Caesars/Caligula*.html#:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20so%20they%20but%20fear%20me.">Rolfe</a> (Loeb) (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate, if only they fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0048%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D97#:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%2C%20if%20only%20they%20fear">Miller</a> (1913), <a href="https://archive.org/details/moral-essays-de-consolatione-ad-marciam-de-vita-beata-de/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22words+let+them+hate+if%22">Basore</a> (1928)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate, so but they fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.attalus.org/cicero/sestius2.html#:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%2C%20so%20but%20they%20fear">Gardner</a> (Loeb) (1958)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, as long as they fear me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://aleatorclassicus.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/accius-atreus-fragment-168/">@aleator</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They can hate as long as they are in fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiisonduti00cice/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22they+can+hate%22">Edinger</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate, so long as they fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://ia801704.us.archive.org/11/items/seneca-on-anger-kaster/Seneca%20-%20%27%27On%20Anger%27%27%20%5Bkaster%5D.pdf+page=19">Kaster</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let them hate me, so long as they fear me.<br>
[<a href="https://facultystaff.richmond.edu/~wstevens/history331texts/caligula.html#:~:text=Let%20them%20hate%20me%2C%20so%20long%20as%20they%20fear%20me.">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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