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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  8, epigram 69 (8.69) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212; Only the poets dead are poets true! Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212; It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by you. [Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas. Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.] Original Latin. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">Only the poets dead are poets true!<br />
Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by <i>you.</i></p>
<p><em>[Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos<br />
nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas.<br />
Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti<br />
non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 69 (8.69) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=vacerra%20likes%20no%20bards%20but%20those%20of%20old%E2%80%94%20only%20the%20poets%20dead%20are%20poets%20true!%20really%2C%20vacerra%E2%80%94may%20i%20make%20so%20bold%3F%E2%80%94%20it's%20not%20worth%20dying%20to%20be%20liked%20by%20you." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22miraris%20veteres%22&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover">Original Latin</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Vacerra, thou approv'st of none<br>
<span class="tab">For Poets, but are dead and gone.<br>
Pardon; for so much do not I<br>
<span class="tab">Esteeme thy praises as to dy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.104?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I ask’t thee oft, what Poets thou hast read,<br>
<span class="tab">And lik'st the best? Still thou reply'st, The dead.<br>
I shall, ere long, with green turfs cover'd be;<br>
<span class="tab">Then sure thou't like, or thou wilt envie me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22i+ask%27t+thee+oft%22&view=theater">Herrick</a> (1648)]<br></blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The ancients all your veneration have:<br>
<span class="tab">You like no poet on this side of the grave.<br>
Yet, pray, excuse me; if to pleases you, I<br>
<span class="tab">Can hardly think it worth my while to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20ancients%20all%20your%20veneration%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vacerra! you admire only the ancients; your praise is restricted to the deceased poets. Pardon me, Vacerra, if I do not think your praise of so much value as to die for it. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, only the poets of old, and praise only those who are dead. Pardon me, I beseech you, Vacerra, it I think death too high a price to pay for your praise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=vacerra&pg=PA384&printsec=frontcover">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The ancients only you admire, Vacerra;<br>
No poet wins your favor till he dies.<br>
I ask your pardon, but I don't think your praise<br>
is worth so much that I will die for it.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ask%20your%20pardon%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, the ancients alone, and praise none but dead poets. Your pardon, pray, Vacerra: it is not worth my while, merely to please you, to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20admire%20vacerra%22&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You puff the poets of other days,<br>
<span class="tab">The living you deplore.<br>
Spare me the accolade: your praise<br>
<span class="tab">Is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20puff%20the,Dudley%20Fitts">Fitts</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Rigidly classical, you save<br>
<span class="tab">Your praise for poets in the grave.<br>
Forgive me, it's not worth my while<br>
<span class="tab">Dying to earn your critical smile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22rigidly+classical%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire only the ancients, Vacerra, and praise no poets except dead ones. I crave your pardon, Vacerra; your good opinion is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>There are poets you praise,<br>
<span class="tab">But I notice they’re all dead.<br>
I’d rather find another way<br>
<span class="tab">to please you, friend, instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=There%20are%20poets%20you%20praise%2C%0ABut%20I%20notice%20they%E2%80%99re%20all%20dead.%0AI%E2%80%99d%20rather%20find%20another%20way%0Ato%20please%20you%2C%20friend%2C%20instead.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Vacerra, you admire the ancients only<br>
<span class="tab">and praise no poets but those here no more.<br>
I beg that you will pardon me, Vacerra,<br>
<span class="tab">but pleasing you is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA16&vq=%22what%20yield%22&pg=PA16#v=snippet&q=%22admire%20the%20ancients%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Deceased authors thou admir'st alone,<br>
<span class="tab">And only praisest poets dead and gone:<br>
Vacerra, pardon me, I will not buy<br>
<span class="tab">Thy praise so dear, as for the same to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Fuller</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You praise long-dead authors rapturously;<br>
<span class="tab">the living ones you savage or ignore,<br>
but since your praise can’t grant immortality<br>
<span class="tab">I really don’t think it’s worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20praise%20long,Brooke%20Clark">Clark</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pine for bards of old<br>
<span class="tab">and poets safely cold.<br>
Excuse me for ignoring your advice,<br>
<span class="tab">but good reviews from you aren’t worth the price.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Dear%20Vacerra%3A,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Unless they’re dead, no poets seem<br>
<span class="tab">To fully satisfy;<br>
Forgive me if, for some esteem,<br>
<span class="tab">I’m not prepared to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Unless%20they%E2%80%99re%20dead,Jack%20Mitchell">Mitchell</a>]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Atwood, Margaret -- Negotiating with the Dead, ch. 2 &#8220;Duplicity: The jekyll hand, the hyde hand, and the slippery double&#8221; (2002)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wanting to meet an author because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like paté. Usually directly attributed to Atwood, but she made it clear that it was not hers: There&#8217;s an epigram tacked to my office bulletin board, pinched from a magazine &#8212; [the quotation]. That&#8217;s a light [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanting to meet an author because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like paté.</p>
<br><b>Margaret Atwood</b> (b. 1939) Canadian writer, literary critic, environmental activist<br><i>Negotiating with the Dead</i>, ch. 2 &#8220;Duplicity: The jekyll hand, the hyde hand, and the slippery double&#8221; (2002) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=jLbFlsKMIOQC&lpg=PP1&dq=atwood%20negotiating%20with%20the%20dead&pg=PA35#v=onepage&q=duck&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Usually directly attributed to Atwood, but she made it clear that it was not hers:<br><br>

<blockquote>There's an epigram tacked to my office bulletin board, pinched from a magazine -- [the quotation]. That's a light enough comment upon the disappointments of encountering the famous, or even the moderately well-known -- they are always shorter and older and more ordinary than you expected -- but there's a more sinister way of looking at it as well. In order for the paté to be made and then eaten, the duck must first be killed. And who is it that does the killing?</blockquote>
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		<title>Rogers, Will -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can&#8217;t all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. Variant: &#8220;We all can&#8217;t be heroes, for someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by.&#8221; No citations found, and not found in primary sources of Rogers&#8217; works.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by.</p>
<br><b>Will Rogers</b> (1879-1935) American humorist<br>(Attributed) 
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Variant: "We all can't be heroes, for someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by."<br><br>

No citations found, and not found in primary sources of Rogers' works.
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