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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The doctrine of eternal pain is my trouble with this Christian religion. I reject it on account of its infinite heartlessness. Published as its own book in 1884. See Dante (1309).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doctrine of eternal pain is my trouble with this Christian religion. I reject it on account of its infinite heartlessness. </p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22eternal+pain+is+my%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884. See <a href="https://wist.info/dante-alighieri-poet/56759/">Dante</a> (1309).
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		<description><![CDATA[In this world we never will be perfectly civilized as long as a gallows casts its shadow upon the earth. As long as there is a penitentiary, within the walls of which a human being is immured, we are not a perfectly civilized people. We shall never be perfectly civilized until we do away with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this world we never will be perfectly civilized as long as a gallows casts its shadow upon the earth. As long as there is a penitentiary, within the walls of which a human being is immured, we are not a perfectly civilized people. We shall never be perfectly civilized until we do away with crime.<br />
<span class="tab">And yet, according to this Christian religion, God is to have an eternal penitentiary; he is to be an everlasting jailer, an everlasting turnkey, a warden of an infinite dungeon, and he is going to keep prisoners there forever, not for the purpose of reforming them &#8212; because they are never going to get any better, only worse &#8212; but for the purpose of purposeless punishment. And for what? For something they failed to believe in this world. Born in ignorance, supported by poverty, caught in the snares of temptation, deformed by toil, stupefied by want &#8212; and yet held responsible through the countless ages of eternity! No man can think of a greater horror; no man can dream of a greater absurdity.</span></p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Blink0004:~:text=In%20this%20world%20we%20never%20will%20be%20perfectly%20civilized" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22perfectly+civilized%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884.						</span>
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		<title>Colton, Charles Caleb -- Lacon: Or, Many Things in Few Words, Vol. 2, § 277 (1822)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of present fame think little, and of future less; the praises that we receive after we are buried, like the posies that are strewed over our grave, may be gratifying to the living, but they are nothing to the dead; the dead are gone, either to a place where they hear them not, or where, if they do, they will despise them.</p>
<br><b>Charles Caleb "C. C." Colton</b> (1780-1832) English cleric, writer, aphorist<br><i>Lacon: Or, Many Things in Few Words</i>, Vol. 2, § 277 (1822) 
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		<title>Marlowe, Christopher -- The Tragicall History of the Life and Death of Doctor Faustus, Act 5, sc. 4 (sc. 19), l. 2018ff (5.4.2018-2029) (1594; 1616 &#8220;B&#8221; text)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BAD ANGEL: Now, Faustus, let shine eyes with horror stare Into that vast perpetual torture-house. There are the Furies tossing damned souls On burning forks; their bodies broil in lead. There are live quarters broiling on the coals, That ne&#8217;er can die. This ever-burning chair Is for o&#8217;er-tortured souls to rest them in. These, that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">BAD ANGEL: Now, Faustus, let shine eyes with horror stare<br />
Into that vast perpetual torture-house.<br />
There are the Furies tossing damned souls<br />
On burning forks; their bodies broil in lead.<br />
There are live quarters broiling on the coals,<br />
That ne&#8217;er can die. This ever-burning chair<br />
Is for o&#8217;er-tortured souls to rest them in.<br />
These, that are fed with sops of flaming fire,<br />
Were gluttons, and loved only delicates,<br />
And laughed to see the poor starve at their gates.<br />
But yet all these are nothing; thou shalt see<br />
Ten thousand tortures that more horrid be.</p>
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<br><b>Christopher "Kit" Marlowe</b> (1564-1593) English dramatist and poet<br><i>The Tragicall History of the Life and Death of Doctor Faustus</i>, Act 5, sc. 4 (sc. 19), l. 2018ff (5.4.2018-2029) (1594; 1616 &#8220;B&#8221; text) 
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This Dante-like scene with the Bad Angel was added in the "B" text.						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet I am held responsible for my belief. Then why does not God give me the evidence? They say he has. In what? In an inspired book. But I do not understand it as they do. Must I be false to my understanding? They say: &#8220;When you come to die you will be sorry [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet I am held responsible for my belief. Then why does not God give me the evidence? They say he has. In what? In an inspired book. But I do not understand it as they do. Must I be false to my understanding? They say: &#8220;When you come to die you will be sorry if you do not.&#8221; Will I be sorry when I come to die that I did not live a hypocrite? Will I be sorry that I did not say I was a Christian when I was not? Will the fact that I was honest put a thorn in the pillow of death? Cannot God forgive me for being honest? They say that when he was in Jerusalem he forgave his murderers, but now he will not forgive an honest man for differing from him on the subject of the Trinity.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Blink0004:~:text=And%20yet%20I%20am%20held%20responsible%20for%20my%20belief" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22i+am+held+responsible+for%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884.





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		<title>Millay, Edna St. Vincent -- &#8220;The Poet and His Book,&#8221; st.  6, Second April (1921)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stranger, pause and look;<br />
<span class="tab">From the dust of ages<br />
Lift this little book,<br />
<span class="tab">Turn the tattered pages,<br />
Read me, do not let me die!<br />
<span class="tab">Search the fading letters, finding<br />
<span class="tab">Steadfast in the broken binding<br />
All that once was I!</p>
<br><b>Edna St. Vincent Millay</b> (1892-1950) American poet<br>&#8220;The Poet and His Book,&#8221; st.  6, <i>Second April</i> (1921) 
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		<title>Marcus Aurelius -- Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν], Book  7, ch. 21 (7.21) (AD 161-180) [tr. Staniforth (1964)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soon you will have forgotten the world, and soon the world will have forgotten you. [Ἐγγὺς μὲν ἡ σὴ περὶ πάντων λήθη, ἐγγὺς δὲ ἡ πάντων περὶ σοῦ λήθη.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: The time when thou shalt have forgotten all things, is at hand. And that time also is at hand, when thou thyself [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon you will have forgotten the world, and soon the world will have forgotten you.</p>
<p>[Ἐγγὺς μὲν ἡ σὴ περὶ πάντων λήθη, ἐγγὺς δὲ ἡ πάντων περὶ σοῦ λήθη.]</p>
<br><b>Marcus Aurelius</b> (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher<br><i>Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν]</i>, Book  7, ch. 21 (7.21) (AD 161-180) [tr. Staniforth (1964)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/meditations0000marc_g6h3/page/108/mode/2up?q=%22soon+you+will+have+forgotten%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0562.tlg001.perseus-grc1:7.21.1">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>The time when thou shalt have forgotten all things, is at hand. And that time also is at hand, when thou thyself shalt be forgotten by all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus_-_His_Meditations_concerning_himselfe#THE_SEVENTH_BOOK:~:text=The%20time%20when%20thou%20shalt%20have%20forgotten%20all%20things%2C%20is%20at%20hand.%20And%20that%20time%20also%20is%20at%20hand%2C%20when%20thou%20thyself%20shalt%20be%20forgotten%20by%20all.">Casaubon</a> (1634), 7.16]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Twill not be long before you will have forgotten all the World; and in a little time, to be even, all the World will forget you too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Emperor_Marcus_Antoninus:_His_Conversation_with_Himself/Book_7#:~:text=%27Twill%20not%20be%20long%20before%20you%20will%20have%20forgotten%20all%20the%20World%3B%20and%20in%20a%20little%20time%2C%20to%20be%20even%2C%20all%20the%20World%20will%20forget%20you%20too.">Collier</a> (1701)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The time approaches when you shall forget all things, and be forgotten by all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/457829267955022580052/page/n119/mode/2up?q=%22The+time+approaches%22">Hutcheson/Moor</a> (1742)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The time is speedily approaching, when you will have forgotten every one, and every one will have forgotten you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_meditations_of_Marcus_Aurelius_Anton/3uQIAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22speedily%20approaching%20when%20you%22">Graves</a> (1792), 7.19]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Near is thy forgetfulness of all things; and near the forgetfulness of thee by all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Thoughts_of_the_Emperor_Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus/Book_VII#:~:text=Near%20is%20thy%20forgetfulness%20of%20all%20things%3B%20and%20near%20the%20forgetfulness%20of%20thee%20by%20all.">Long</a> (1862)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It will not be long before you will have forgotten all the world, and in a little time all the world will forget you too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Meditations_of_Marcus_Aurelius/5qcAEZZibB0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20be%20long%20before%20you%22">Collier/Zimmern</a> (1887)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Soon you will have forgotten all; soon all will have forgotten you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus_to_Himself/0X2BxfXnXKcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22forgotten%20all%22">Rendall</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The time is at hand when you shall forget all things, and when all shall forget you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/55317/pg55317-images.html#:~:text=The%20time%20is%20at%20hand%20when%20you%20shall%20forget%20all%20things%2C%20and%20when%20all%20shall%20forget%20you.">Hutcheson/Chrystal</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A little while and thou wilt have forgotten everything, a little while and everything will have forgotten thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius_(Haines_1916)/Book_7#:~:text=A%20little%20while%20and%20thou%20wilt%20have%20forgotten%20everything%2C%20a%20little%20while%20and%20everything%20will%20have%20forgotten%20thee.">Haines</a> (Loeb) (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Near at hand is your forgetting all; near, too, all forgetting you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Meditations_of_the_Emperor_Marcus_Antoninus/Book_7#:~:text=Near%20at%20hand%20is%20your%20forgetting%20all%3B%20near%2C%20too%2C%20all%20forgetting%20you.">Farquharson</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Close is the time when you will forget all things; and close, too, thie time when all will forget you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Meditations/VVsmU-4YwFsC?gbpv=1&bsq=%227.21%22">Hard</a> (1997 ed.)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Close to forgetting it all, close to being forgotten.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/meditation-GeorgeHays/page/n175/mode/2up?q=%2221.+Close+to%22">Hays</a> (2003)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Soon you will have forgotten all things: soon all things will have forgotten you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/marcus-aurelius-emperor-of-rome-martin-hammond-diskin-clay-meditations/page/61/mode/2up?q=%22forgotten+all+things%3A%22">Hammond</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Close is the time when you will forget all things; and close, too, the time when all will forget you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/meditations0000marc_m5f0/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22close+is+the+time%22">Hard</a> (2011 ed.)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Fuller, Thomas (1654) -- Introductio ad Prudentiam, Vol. 2, # 2087 (1727)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t be seduc&#8217;d by a Multitude. Thou wilt stand alone when thou diest; and shalt be call&#8217;d to give thy Account by thyself.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be seduc&#8217;d by a Multitude. Thou wilt stand alone when thou diest; and shalt be call&#8217;d to give thy Account by thyself.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Fuller</b> (1654-1734) English physician, preacher, aphorist, writer<br><i>Introductio ad Prudentiam</i>, Vol. 2, # 2087 (1727) 
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		<title>Orwell, George -- Essay (1947-03), &#8220;Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool,&#8221; Polemic Magazine, No. 7</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Often there is a seeming truce between the humanist and the religious believer, but in fact their attitudes cannot be reconciled: one must choose between this world and the next. And the enormous majority of human beings, if they understood the issue, would choose this world. They do make that choice when they continue working, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often there is a seeming truce between the humanist and the religious believer, but in fact their attitudes cannot be reconciled: one must choose between this world and the next. And the enormous majority of human beings, if they understood the issue, would choose this world. They do make that choice when they continue working, breeding and dying instead of crippling their faculties in the hope of obtaining a new lease of existence elsewhere.</p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1947-03), &#8220;Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine, No. 7 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/insidewhaleother0000orwe/page/114/mode/2up?q=%22seeming+truce%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i>Inside the Whale, and Other Essays</i> (1962).

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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only ambition is to obey. Full title &#8220;Arraignment of the Church and a Plea for Individuality.&#8221; Collected in The Gods and Other Lectures (1876).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only ambition is to obey.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Alink0005:~:text=It%20has%20always%20seemed%20absurd%20to%20suppose%20that%20a%20god%20would%20choose%20for%20his%20companions%2C%20during%20all%20eternity%2C%20the%20dear%20souls%20whose%20highest%20and%20only%20ambition%20is%20to%20obey." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Full title "<a href="https://conwayhallcollections.omeka.net/items/show/742">Arraignment of the Church and a Plea for Individuality</a>." <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/204/mode/2up?q=%22founded+upon+the+bible%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).						</span>
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		<title>Adams, Douglas -- Dirk Gently No. 1, Dirk Gently&#8217;s Holistic Detective Agency, ch.  7 (1987)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gordon Way&#8217;s astonishment at being suddenly shot dead was nothing to his astonishment at what happened next.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Way&#8217;s astonishment at being suddenly shot dead was nothing to his astonishment at what happened next.</p>
<br><b>Douglas Adams</b> (1952-2001) English author, humorist, screenwriter<br>Dirk Gently No. 1, <i>Dirk Gently&#8217;s Holistic Detective Agency</i>, ch.  7 (1987) 
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		<title>Knowles, Frederic Lawrence -- &#8220;The Last Word,&#8221; st. 1, Love Triumphant (1904)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I have folded up this tent And laid the soiled thing by, I shall go forth &#8216;neath different stars, Under an unknown sky.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I have folded up this tent<br />
<span class="tab">And laid the soiled thing by,<br />
I shall go forth &#8216;neath different stars,<br />
<span class="tab">Under an unknown sky.</p>
<br><b>Frederic Lawrence Knowles</b> (1869-1905) American poet<br>&#8220;The Last Word,&#8221; st. 1, <i>Love Triumphant</i> (1904) 
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		<title>Kittredge, A. E. -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend, there will come one day to you a Messenger, whom you cannot treat with contempt. He will say, &#8220;Come with me;&#8221; and all your pleas of business cares and earthly loves will be of no avail. When his cold hand touches yours, the key of the counting-room will drop forever, and he will [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend, there will come one day to you a Messenger, whom you cannot treat with contempt. He will say, &#8220;Come with me;&#8221; and all your pleas of business cares and earthly loves will be of no avail. When his cold hand touches yours, the key of the counting-room will drop forever, and he will lead you away from all your investments, your speculations, your bank-notes and real estate, and with him you will pass into eternity, up to the bar of God. You will not be too busy to die.</p>
<br><b>Abbott Eliot "A. E." Kittredge</b> (1834-1912) American clergyman and Presbyterian leader

<br>(Attributed) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/burningwordsofbr00gilb/page/174/mode/2up?q=%22your+investments%2C+your+speculations%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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In Josiah Hotchkiss Gilbert (ed.), <i>Burning Words of Brilliant Writers</i> (1883). I could not find any primary source that Gilbert borrowed from.						</span>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1877-06-23), &#8220;The Ghosts,&#8221; Carson Theater, Carson City, Nevada</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of immortality, that like a sea has ebbed and flowed in the human heart, with its countless waves of hope and fear, beating against the shores and rocks of time and fate, was not born of any book, nor of any creed, nor of any religion. It was born of human affection, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of immortality, that like a sea has ebbed and flowed in the human heart, with its countless waves of hope and fear, beating against the shores and rocks of time and fate, was not born of any book, nor of any creed, nor of any religion. It was born of human affection, and it will continue to ebb and flow beneath the mists and clouds of doubt and darkness as long as love kisses the lips of death. It is the rainbow — Hope shining upon the tears of grief.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1877-06-23), &#8220;The Ghosts,&#8221; Carson Theater, Carson City, Nevada 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/ghostsandotherle00ingeiala/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22idea+of+immortality+that+like%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Ghosts, and Other Lectures</i> (1878)						</span>
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		<title>Gaiman, Neil -- Neverwhere, ch. 14 (1996)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Marquis de Carabas looked up at him. His eyes were very white in the moonlight. And he whispered, “What’s it like being dead? It’s very cold, my friend. Very dark, and very cold.”</p>
<br><b>Neil Gaiman</b> (b. 1960) British author, screenwriter, fabulist<br><i>Neverwhere</i>, ch. 14 (1996) 
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		<title>Omar Khayyam -- Rubáiyát [رباعیات], Bod. #  97 [tr. Whinfield (1883), # 267]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go to! Cast dust on those deaf skies, who spurn Thy orisons and bootless prayers, and learn To quaff the cup, and hover round the fair; Of all who go, did ever one return? Given as # 149 in Whinfield&#8217;s 1882 edition. Calcutta manuscript # 271. Alternate translations: Behold the dawn arise, O fountain of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to! Cast dust on those deaf skies, who spurn<br />
Thy orisons and bootless prayers, and learn<br />
<span class="tab">To quaff the cup, and hover round the fair;<br />
Of all who go, did ever one return?</p>
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<br><b>Omar Khayyám </b> (1048-1123) Persian poet, mathematician, philosopher, astronomer [عمر خیام]<br><i>Rubáiyát</i> [رباعیات], Bod. #  97 [tr. Whinfield (1883), # 267] 
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Given as <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/188/mode/2up?q=%22cast+dust%22"># 149</a> in Whinfield's 1882 edition. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/the-calcutta-quatrains/translations-201---300/nr-271.html#:~:text=Nr.%20271-,CALCUTTA%20NR.%20271,-*">Calcutta manuscript</a> # 271. Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Behold the dawn arise, O fountain of delights. Drink your wine and touch your lute, for the life of those who sleep will be but brief; and of those who have gone hence, not one will e'er return.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22xliv+Behold+the+dawn+arise%22">McCarthy</a> (1879), # 44]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go, on the earth and the heavens cast dust and all their care;<br>
Drink wine and follow the trace of the pleasant-visaged fair.<br>
<span class="tab">Where is the good of obedience? Where is the profit of prayer?<br>
Of all that have gone before us, there's none returneth e'er.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/the-calcutta-quatrains/translations-201---300/nr-271.html#:~:text=Go%2C%20on%20the%20earth%20and%20the%20heavens%20cast%20dust%20and%20all%20their%20care%3B%0ADrink%20wine%20and%20follow%20the%20trace%20of%20the%20pleasant%2Dvisaged%20fair.%0AWhere%20is%20the%20good%20of%20obedience%3F%20Where%20is%20the%20profit%20of%20prayer%3F%0AOf%20all%20that%20have%20gone%20before%20us%2C%20there%27s%20none%20returneth%20e%27er.">Payne</a> (1898), # 463]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go! throw dust upon the face of the heavens,<br>
drink wine, and consort with the fair of face;<br>
<span class="tab">what time is this for worship? and what time is this for supplication?<br>
since, of all those that have departed, not one has returned?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n31/mode/2up?q=97">Heron-Allen</a> (1898), # 97] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go, thou, cast dust on the heaven above us,<br>
Drink ye wine, and beauty seek today!<br>
<span class="tab">What use in adoration? What need for prayer?<br>
For of all the gone no one comes again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/n93/mode/2up?q=%22go+thou+cast%22">Cadell</a>, after Nicholas (1879), # 228]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go then, cast dust on heaven's sapphire stair,<br>
<span class="tab">Drink wine, love beauty, in this world of men.<br>
What place for pious deeds? What need for prayer?<br>
<span class="tab">Of the departed, none comes back again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/cadell---1899.html#:~:text=Go%20then%2C%20cast%20dust%20on%20heaven%27s%20sapphire%20stair%2C%0ADrink%20wine%2C%20love%20beauty%2C%20in%20this%20world%20of%20men.%0AWhat%20place%20for%20pious%20deeds%3F%20What%20need%20for%20prayer%3F%0AOf%20the%20departed%2C%20none%20comes%20back%20again">Cadell</a> (1899), # 105]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go! On earth's face, in Heaven's face high in air<br>
Flung dust, drink wine and woo the sweet-faced fair!<br>
<span class="tab">What time is there for worship? What for prayer?<br>
For none of all those gone returneth e'er.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/thompson---1906.html#:~:text=Go!%20On%20earth%27s%20face%2C%20in%20Heaven%27s%20face%20high%20in%20air%0AFlung%20dust%2C%20drink%20wine%20and%20woo%20the%20sweet%2Dfaced%20fair!%0AWhat%20time%20is%20there%20for%20worship%3F%20What%20for%20prayer%3F%0AFor%20none%20of%20all%20those%20gone%20returneth%20e%27er.">Thompson</a> (1906), # 312]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fling dust at heaven, that every offering spurns;<br>
Drink wine, and love while thy desire yet burns;<br>
<span class="tab">What time is this to worship or to pray?<br>
Of all that have departed, none returns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n31/mode/2up?q=97">Talbot</a> (1908), # 97]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go! throw dust upon the head of the heavens and the<br>
world. Drink ever wine and hover about the fair-faced ones.<br>
What place is there for worship? what place for prayer?<br>
for of all those who are gone not one has come back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/christensen---1927.html#:~:text=Go!%20throw%20dust%20upon%20the%20head%20of%20the%20heavens%20and%20the%0Aworld.%20Drink%20ever%20wine%20and%20hover%20about%20the%20fair%2Dfaced%20ones.%0AWhat%20place%20is%20there%20for%20worship%3F%20what%20place%20for%20prayer%3F%0Afor%20of%20all%20those%20who%20are%20gone%20not%20one%20has%20come%20back.">Christensen</a> (1927), # 56]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go, throw dust on the Sphere of this world,<br>
Drink wine and court those whose face is resplendent like the moon.<br>
<span class="tab">What place is this for worship and for prayer?<br>
Since from all who have left no news returns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/rosen---1928.html#:~:text=Go%2C%20throw%20dust%20on%20the%20Sphere%20of%20this%20world%2C%0ADrink%20wine%20and%20court%20those%20whose%20face%20is%20resplendent%20like%20the%20moon.%0AWhat%20place%20is%20this%20for%20worship%20and%20for%20prayer%3F%0ASince%20from%20all%20who%20have%20left%20no%20news%20returns.">Rosen</a> (1928), # 174]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ascend the skies, fling the dust on earth, 'tis base,<br>
Yea seek His love, and linger on His face.<br>
<span class="tab">Thy rites and prayers will not profit there,<br>
The path you once have plied you can't retrace.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/tirtha---1941.html#:~:text=Ascend%20the%20skies%2C%20fling%20the%20dust%20on%20earth%2C%20%27tis%20base%2C%0AYea%20seek%20His%20love%2C%20and%20linger%20on%20His%20face.%0AThy%20rites%20and%20prayers%20will%20not%20profit%20there%2C%0AThe%20path%20you%20once%20have%20plied%20you%20can%27t%20retrace.">Tirtha</a> (1941), # 3.49]</blockquote><br>



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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who can estimate the misery that has been caused by this most infamous doctrine of eternal punishment? Think of the lives it has blighted &#8212; of the tears it has caused &#8212; of the agony it has produced. Think of the millions who have been driven to insanity by this most terrible of dogmas. This [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who can estimate the misery that has been caused by this most infamous doctrine of eternal punishment? Think of the lives it has blighted &#8212; of the tears it has caused &#8212; of the agony it has produced. Think of the millions who have been driven to insanity by this most terrible of dogmas. This doctrine renders God the basest and most cruel being in the universe. Compared with him, the most frightful deities of the most barbarous and degraded tribes are miracles of goodness and mercy. There is nothing more degrading than to worship such a god. Lower than this the soul can never sink. If the doctrine of eternal damnation is true, let me share the fate of the unconverted; let me have my portion in hell, rather than in heaven with a god infamous enough to inflict eternal misery upon any of the sons of men.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago 
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Collected in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).



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		<title>Wilcox, Ella Wheeler -- Poem (1879), &#8220;Advice,&#8221; st.  8, Maurine and Other Poems (1888 ed.)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must live my life, not yours, my friend,<br />
<span class="tab">For so it was written down;<br />
We must follow our given paths to the end,<br />
<span class="tab">But I trust we shall meet &#8212; in town.</p>
<br><b>Ella Wheeler Wilcox</b> (1850-1919) American author, poet, temperance advocate, spiritualist<br>Poem (1879), &#8220;Advice,&#8221; st.  8, <i>Maurine and Other Poems</i> (1888 ed.) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/maurineotherpoem01wilc/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22trust+we+shall%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Adams, Douglas -- Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy, Phase 1, &#8220;Fit the 2nd&#8221; (BBC radio) (1978-03-15)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ARTHUR: I don’t want to die now, I’ve still got a headache! I don’t want to go to heaven with a headache, I’d be all cross and wouldn’t enjoy it. The adaptation into the original novelization, Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy, ch. 7 (1979), is nearly the same: &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to die now!&#8221; he [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">ARTHUR: I don’t want to die now, I’ve still got a headache! I don’t want to go to heaven with a headache, I’d be all cross and wouldn’t enjoy it.</p>
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<br><b>Douglas Adams</b> (1952-2001) English author, humorist, screenwriter<br><i>Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy</i>, Phase 1, &#8220;Fit the 2nd&#8221; (BBC radio) (1978-03-15) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://bookreadfree.com/325510/8014754#:~:text=ARTHUR%3A%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20want%20to%20die%20now%2C%20I%E2%80%99ve%20still%20got%20a%20headache!%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20want%20to%20go%20to%20heaven%20with%20a%20headache%2C%20I%E2%80%99d%20be%20all%20cross%20and%20wouldn%E2%80%99t%20enjoy%20it." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The <a href="https://archive.org/details/hitchhikersguide00adam/page/68/mode/2up?q=%22heaven+with+a+headache%22">adaptation into the original novelization</a>, <i>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy</i>, ch. 7 (1979), is nearly the same:<br><br>

<blockquote>"I don't want to die now!" he yelled. "I've still got a headache! I don't want to go to heaven with a headache, I'd be all cross and wouldn't enjoy it!"</blockquote><br>

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		<description><![CDATA[Hell is wherever Love is not, and Heaven Is Love’s location. No dogmatic creed, No austere faith based on ignoble fear Can lead thee into realms of joy and peace. Unless the humblest creatures on the earth Are bettered by thy loving sympathy Think not to find a Paradise beyond. There is no sudden entrance [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell is wherever Love is not, and Heaven<br />
Is Love’s location.  No dogmatic creed,<br />
No austere faith based on ignoble fear<br />
Can lead thee into realms of joy and peace.<br />
Unless the humblest creatures on the earth<br />
Are bettered by thy loving sympathy<br />
Think not to find a Paradise beyond.</p>
<p>There is no sudden entrance into Heaven.<br />
Slow is the ascent by the path of Love.</p>
<br><b>Ella Wheeler Wilcox</b> (1850-1919) American author, poet, temperance advocate, spiritualist<br>Poem (1906), &#8220;The Way,&#8221; ll. 5-13, <i>New Thought Pastels</i> 
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		<title>Billings, Josh -- Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards, ch. 11 &#8220;The Mermaid&#8221; (1874)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be mersiphull to all the dum animals &#8212; no man can ride into heaven, on a sore-backed horse. [Be merciful to all the dumb animals &#8212; no man can ride into heaven on a sore-backed horse.]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be mersiphull to all the dum animals &#8212; no man can ride into heaven, on a sore-backed horse.</p>
<p>[Be merciful to all the dumb animals &#8212; no man can ride into heaven on a sore-backed horse.]</p>
<br><b>Josh Billings</b> (1818-1885) American humorist, aphorist [pseud. of Henry Wheeler Shaw]<br><i>Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards</i>, ch. 11 &#8220;The Mermaid&#8221; (1874) 
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		<title>Omar Khayyam -- Rubáiyát [رباعیات], Bod. # 100 [tr. FitzGerald, 3rd ed. (1872), #  35]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then to the Lip of this poor earthen Urn<br />
I lean&#8217;d, the Secret of my Life to learn:<br />
And Lip to Lip it murmur&#8217;d &#8212; &#8220;While you live,<br />
&#8220;Drink! &#8212; for, once dead, you never shall return.&#8221;<br />
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<br><b>Omar Khayyám </b> (1048-1123) Persian poet, mathematician, philosopher, astronomer [عمر خیام]<br><i>Rubáiyát</i> [رباعیات], Bod. # 100 [tr. FitzGerald, 3rd ed. (1872), #  35] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_3rd_edition)#:~:text=Then%20to%20the%20Lip%20of%20this%20poor%20earthen%20Urn%0AI%20lean%27d%2C%20the%20Secret%20of%20my%20Life%20to%20learn%3A%0AAnd%20Lip%20to%20Lip%20it%20murmur%27d%2D%2D%2D%22While%20you%20live%2C%0A%22Drink!%2D%2Dfor%2C%20once%20dead%2C%20you%20never%20shall%20return.%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The same translation was used by Fitzgerald for the <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_4th_edition)#:~:text=Then%20to%20the%20Lip%20of%20this%20poor%20earthen%20Urn%0A%C2%A0I%20lean%27d%2C%20the%20Secret%20of%20my%20Life%20to%20learn%3A%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0And%20Lip%20to%20Lip%20it%20murmur%27d%2D%2D%22While%20you%20live%2C%0A%C2%A0%22Drink!%2D%2Dfor%2C%20once%20dead%2C%20you%20never%20shall%20return.%22">4th ed.</a> (1879) and <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_5th_edition)#:~:text=%C2%A0Then%20to%20the%20Lip%20of%20this%20poor%20earthen%20Urn%0A%C2%A0I%20lean%27d%2C%20the%20Secret%20of%20my%20Life%20to%20learn%3A%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0And%20Lip%20to%20Lip%20it%20murmur%27d%2D%2D%22While%20you%20live%2C%0A%C2%A0%22Drink!%2D%2Dfor%2C%20once%20dead%2C%20you%20never%20shall%20return.%22">5th ed.</a> (1889).<br><br>

Where there are <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22one+man%2C+two+worlds%22">numerological references</a> (which multiple sources pull together as variations on this quatrain), they are based on the numbering: One man, two worlds, four elements, five senses, seven planets, eight heavens, nine spheres, ten powers.<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Lip to lip I passionately kissed the bowl,<br>
To learn from it the secret of length of days;<br>
<span class="tab">Lip to lip in answer it whispered reply,<br>
"Drink wine, for once gone thou shalt never return!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/cowell---1858.html#:~:text=Lip%20to%20lip%20I%20passionately%20kissed%20the%20bowl%2C%0ATo%20learn%20from%20it%20the%20secret%20of%20length%20of%20days%3B%0ALip%20to%20lip%20in%20answer%20it%20whispered%20reply%2C%0A%22Drink%20wine%2C%20for%20once%20gone%20thou%20shalt%20never%20return!%22">Cowell</a> (1858), #  25]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then to this earthen Bowl did I adjourn<br>
My Lip the secret Well of Life to learn:<br>
<span class="tab">And Lip to Lip it murmur'd -- "While you live,<br>
"Drink! -- for once dead you never shall return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_1st_edition)/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam#:~:text=Then%20to%20this,never%20shall%20return.%22">FitzGerald</a>, 1st ed. (1859), #  34]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then to the Lip of this poor earthen Urn<br>
I lean'd, the secret Well of Life to learn:<br>
<span class="tab">And Lip to Lip it murmur'd -- "While you live,<br>
"Drink! -- for, once dead, you never shall return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_2nd_edition)#:~:text=Then%20to%20the%20Lip%20of%20this%20poor%20earthen%20Urn%0AI%20lean%27d%2C%20the%20secret%20Well%20of%20Life%20to%20learn%3A%0AAnd%20Lip%20to%20Lip%20it%20murmur%27d%2D%2D%22While%20you%20live%2C%0A%22Drink%C2%A0!%2D%2Dfor%2C%20once%20dead%2C%20you%20never%20shall%20return.%22">FitzGerald</a>, 2nd ed. (1868), #  34]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O offspring of the four and five, art puzzled by the four and five? Drink deep, for I have told thee time on time, that once departed, thou returnest no more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22cccxlv+o%22">McCarthy</a> (1879), # 245]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I put my lips to the cup, for I did yearn <br>
The secret of the future life to learn; <br>
<span class="tab">And from his lip I heard a whisper drop, <br>
"Drink! for once gone you never will return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22whisper+drop%22">Whinfield</a> (1882), # 149]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I put my lips to the cup, for I did yearn <br>
The means of gaining length of days to learn; <br>
<span class="tab">It leaned its lip to mine, and whispered low, <br>
"Drink! for, once gone, you never will return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/190/mode/2up?q=%22put+my+lips+to%22">Whinfield</a> (1883), # 152, <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Quatrains_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Whinfield,_1883)/Quatrains_201-300#:~:text=I%20put%20my%20lips%20to%20the%20cup%2C%20for%20I%20did%20yearn%0AThe%20hidden%20cause%20of%20length%20of%20days%20to%20learn%3B%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0He%20leaned%20his%20lip%20to%20mine%2C%20and%20whispered%20low%2C%0A%22Drink!%20for%2C%20once%20gone%2C%20you%20never%20will%20return.%22">elsewhere</a> # 274]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I put my lips to the cup, for I did yearn <br>
The hidden cause of length of days to learn; <br>
<span class="tab">He leaned its lip to mine, and whispered low, <br>
"Drink! for, once gone, you never will return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22i+put+my+lips+to+the+cup%22">Whinfield</a> (188?), # 274]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Slave of four elements and sevenfold heaven,<br>
Who aye bemoan the thrall of these eleven,<br>
<span class="tab">Drink! I have told you seventy times and seven,<br>
Once gone, nor hell will send you back, nor heaven.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22slave+of+four+elements%22">Whinfield</a> (1882), #223]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Child of four elements and sevenfold heaven,<br>
Who fume and sweat because of these eleven,<br>
<span class="tab">Drink! I have told you seventy times and seven,<br>
Once gone, nor hell will send you back, nor heaven.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22Child+of+four+elements%22">Whinfield</a> (1883), # 431]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sprung from the Four, and the Seven! I see that never<br>
The four and the Seven respond to thy brain's endeavour --<br>
<span class="tab">Drink wine! for I tell thee, four times o'er and more,<br>
Return there is none! -- Once gone, thou art gone for ever!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22Sprung+from+the+Four%22">M. K.</a> (1888)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lip to lip with the jar you know not what is intended<br>
That is to say my lip also was like your lips (employed)<br>
<span class="tab">In the end since existence is no longer available<br>
Your lips should be thus employed according to the friendly order.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/the-calcutta-manuscript/heron-allens-translation/index.html#:~:text=Lip%20to%20lip%20with%20the%20jar%20you%20know%20not%20what%20is%20intended%0AThat%20is%20to%20say%20my%20lip%20also%20was%20like%20your%20lips%20(employed)%0AIn%20the%20end%20since%20existence%20is%20no%20longer%20available%0AYour%20lips%20should%20be%20thus%20employed%20according%20to%20the%20friendly%20order">Heron-Allen</a> (1897), Calcutta # 227]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In great desire I pressed my lips to the lip of the jar, <br>
To inquire from it how long life might be attained; <br>
<span class="tab">It joined its lip to mine and whispered: --  <br>
"Drink wine, for, to this world, thou returnest not."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n31/mode/2up?q=100">Heron-Allen</a> (1898), # 100] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With strong desire my lips the cup's lip sought<br>
From it the cause of weary life to learn.<br>
<span class="tab">Its lip pressed my lips close and whisperèd: --<br>
"Drink, in this world no moment can return."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/cadell---1899.html#:~:text=With%20strong%20desire%20my%20lips%20the%20cup%27s%20lip%20sought%0AFrom%20it%20the%20cause%20of%20weary%20life%20to%20learn.%0AIts%20lip%20pressed%20my%20lips%20close%20and%20whisper%C3%A8d%3A%20%E2%80%94%0A%22Drink%2C%20in%20this%20world%20no%20moment%20can%20return.%22">Cadell</a> (1899), # 110]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I prest my lip in yearning to the urn.<br>
Thereby the means of length of life to learn.<br>
<span class="tab">And lip to my lip placed it whispered low,<br>
"Drink! For to this world you will ne'er return!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/thompson---1906.html#:~:text=I%20prest%20my%20lip%20in%20yearning%20to%20the%20urn.%0AThereby%20the%20means%20of%20length%20of%20life%20to%20learn.%0AAnd%20lip%20to%20my%20lip%20placed%20it%20whispered%20low%2C%0A%22Drink!%20For%20to%20this%20world%20you%20will%20ne%27er%20return!%27%27">Thompson</a> (1906), # 320]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To the jar's mouth my eager lip I press'd,<br>
For Life's Elixir making anxious quest;<br>
<span class="tab">It join'd its lip to mine, and whisper'd low --<br>
"Drink wine: thou shalt not wake from thy last rest!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n31/mode/2up?q=100">Talbot</a> (1908), # 100]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I laid my lip to the lip of the wine-cup in the utmost<br>
desire to seek from it the means of prolonging life.<br>
<span class="tab">It laid its lip to my lip and said mysteriously: "During<br>
a whole life I was like thee; rejoice for a while in my company."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/christensen---1927.html#:~:text=I%20laid%20my%20lip%20to%20the%20lip%20of%20the%20wine%2Dcup%20in%20the%20utmost%0Adesire%20to%20seek%20from%20it%20the%20means%20of%20prolonging%20life.%0AIt%20laid%20its%20lip%20to%20my%20lip%20and%20said%20mysteriously%3A%20%22During%0Aa%20whole%20life%20I%20was%20like%20thee%3B%20rejoice%20for%20a%20while%20in%20my%20company%22.">Christensen</a> (1927), #  65]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I placed my lip on the lip of the jug and caught from it<br>
The means of attaining a long life.<br>
<span class="tab">The jug then seemed to say to me:<br>
"For a lifetime I have been as you; now, for a while, be my companion."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/rosen---1928.html#:~:text=I%20placed%20my%20lip%20on%20the%20lip%20of%20the%20jug%20and%20caught%20from%20it%0AThe%20means%20of%20attaining%20a%20long%20life.%0AThe%20jug%20then%20seemed%20to%20say%20to%20me%3A%0A%22For%20a%20lifetime%20I%20have%20been%20as%20you%3B%20now%2C%20for%20a%20while%2C%20be%20my%0Acompanion%22">Rosen</a> (1928), # 177]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My lip to lip of Jar I close in glee,<br>
In hopes that life eternal I would see;<br>
<span class="tab">Then quoth the Jar: Like thee I once have been<br>
For ages, hence a minute breathe with me."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/tirtha---1941.html#:~:text=My%20lip%20to%20lip%20of%20Jar%20I%20close%20in%20glee%2C%0AIn%20hopes%20that%20life%20eternal%20I%20would%20see%3B%0AThen%20quoth%20the%20Jar%3A%20Like%20thee%20I%20once%20have%20been%0AFor%20ages%2C%20hence%20a%20minute%20breathe%20with%20me.%22">Tirtha</a> (1941), # 5.29]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Greedily to the bowl my lips I pressed<br>
and asked how might I sue for green old age.<br>
<span class="tab">Pressing its lips to mine it muttered darkly:<br>
"Drink up! Once gone, you shall return no more!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/originalrubaiyya00omar/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22greedily+to+the+bowl%22">Graves & Ali-Shah</a> (1967), #  36]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I laid my lip against the pitcher's lip in the extremity of desire, that I might seek from it the means of long life: it laid (its) lip upon my lip and said secretly, "I too was (once) like thee: consort with me for a moment."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_0856680389/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22i+laid+my+lip%22">Bowen</a> (1976), #  19, after Heron-Allen]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I pressed my lip upon the Winejar's lip,<br>
<span class="tab">And questioned how long life I might attain;<br>
Then lip to lip it whispering replied:<br>
<span class="tab">"Drink wine -- this world thou shalt not see again."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_0856680389/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22i+pressed+my+lip%22">Bowen</a> (1976), #  19]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In the extremity of desire I put my lip to the pot's<br>
To seek the elixir of life:<br>
<span class="tab">It put its lip on mine and murmured, <br>
"Enjoy the wine, you'll not be here again."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ruba_iyat_of_Omar_Khayyam/sUN5XLzv8lMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=139%20lip">Avery/Heath-Stubbs</a> (1979), # 139]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I brought the cup to my lips with greed<br>
Begging for longevity, my temporal need<br>
<span class="tab">Cup brought its to mine, its secret did feed<br>
Time never returns, drink, of this take heed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.okonlife.com/poems/page2.htm#:~:text=I%20brought%20the%20cup%20to%20my%20lips%20with%20greed%0ABegging%20for%20longevity%2C%20my%20temporal%20need%0ACup%20brought%20its%20to%20mine%2C%20its%20secret%20did%20feed%0ATime%20never%20returns%2C%20drink%2C%20of%20this%20take%20heed.">Shahriari</a> (1998), literal]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The only secret that you need to know<br>
The passage of time is a one way flow<br>
<span class="tab">If you understand, joyously you’ll grow<br>
Else you will drown in your own sorrow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.okonlife.com/poems/page2.htm#:~:text=The%20only%20secret%20that%20you%20need%20to%20know%0AThe%20passage%20of%20time%20is%20a%20one%20way%20flow%0AIf%20you%20understand%2C%20joyously%20you%E2%80%99ll%20grow%0AElse%20you%20will%20drown%20in%20your%20own%20sorrow.">Shahriari</a> (1998), figurative]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Billings, Josh -- Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards, ch.  9 &#8220;The Ram and Crawfish&#8221; (1874)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thoze people who are trieing to git to heaven on their kreed will find out at last that they didn&#8217;t hav a thru ticket. [Those people who are trying to get to heaven on their creed will find out at last that they didn&#8217;t have a through ticket.]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoze people who are trieing to git to heaven on their kreed will find out at last that they didn&#8217;t hav a thru ticket.</p>
<p>[Those people who are trying to get to heaven on their creed will find out at last that they didn&#8217;t have a through ticket.]</p>
<br><b>Josh Billings</b> (1818-1885) American humorist, aphorist [pseud. of Henry Wheeler Shaw]<br><i>Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards</i>, ch.  9 &#8220;The Ram and Crawfish&#8221; (1874) 
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		<title>Adams, Douglas -- Dirk Gently No. 1, Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency, ch.  9 (1987)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">In the great debate that has raged for centuries about what, if anything, happens to you after death, be it heaven, hell, purgatory or extinction, one thing has never been in doubt &#8212; that you would at least know the answer when you were dead.<br />
<span class="tab">Gordon Way was dead, but he simply hadn’t the slightest idea what he was meant to do about it. It wasn’t a situation he had encountered before. </p>
<br><b>Douglas Adams</b> (1952-2001) English author, humorist, screenwriter<br>Dirk Gently No. 1, <i>Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency</i>, ch.  9 (1987) 
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		<title>Billings, Josh -- Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards, ch.  6 &#8220;Pets&#8221; (1874)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Experiense iz a good teacher, but she iz a dredphull slo one, before we git haff thru her lessons, the bell rings, and we are summoned to judgement. [Experience is a good teacher, but she is a dreadful slow one; before we get half through her lessons, the bell rings, and we are summoned to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experiense iz a good teacher, but she iz a dredphull slo one, before we git haff thru her lessons, the bell rings, and we are summoned to judgement.</p>
<p>[Experience is a good teacher, but she is a dreadful slow one; before we get half through her lessons, the bell rings, and we are summoned to judgement.]</p>
<br><b>Josh Billings</b> (1818-1885) American humorist, aphorist [pseud. of Henry Wheeler Shaw]<br><i>Josh Billings&#8217; Trump Kards</i>, ch.  6 &#8220;Pets&#8221; (1874) 
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		<title>Catullus -- Carmina #  96 [tr. MacNaghten (1925), &#8220;On the Death of Quintilia, Wife of Calvus&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If any solace, any joy may fall, Calvus, to silent sepulchres through tears, When the lost love regretful we recall And weep the parted friend of early years, Then, sure, Quintilia is not wholly sad, Untimely lost: your love has made her glad. [Si quicquam mutis gratum acceptumve sepulcris accidere a nostro, Calve, dolore potest, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any solace, any joy may fall,<br />
<span class="tab">Calvus, to silent sepulchres through tears,<br />
When the lost love regretful we recall<br />
<span class="tab">And weep the parted friend of early years,<br />
Then, sure, Quintilia is not wholly sad,<br />
<span class="tab">Untimely lost: your love has made her glad.</p>
<p><em>[Si quicquam mutis gratum acceptumve sepulcris<br />
accidere a nostro, Calve, dolore potest,<br />
quo desiderio veteres renovamus amores<br />
atque olim junctas flemus amicitias,<br />
certe non tanto mors immatura dolori est<br />
Quintiliae, quantum gaudet amore tuo.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Catullus</b> (c. 84 BC – c. 54 BC) Latin poet [Gaius Valerius Catullus]<br>Carmina #  96 [tr. MacNaghten (1925), &#8220;On the Death of Quintilia, Wife of Calvus&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b267122&seq=155&q1=quintilia&view=1up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-lat1:96">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If ever to the dumb, sepulcrhal urn<br>
<span class="tab">The tribute of a tear could grateful prove;<br>
What timne each recollected scene we mourn,<br>
<span class="tab">Each deed of ancient friendship, and of love:<br>
Less sure, fond youth, must thy Quintilia grieve<br>
<span class="tab">That she by death's cold hand untimely fell;<br>
Than joys her parted spirit to perceive<br>
<span class="tab">How much her Calvus lov'd her, and how well!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t6154g976&seq=420&q1=%22dumb,+sepulchral%22">Nott</a> (1795), # 91 "To Calvus, on Quintilia]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Calvus, if any joy from mortal tears<br>
<span class="tab">Can touch the feelings of the silent dead;<br>
When dwells regret on loves of former years,<br>
<span class="tab">Or weeps o'er friendships that have long been fled,<br>
Oh! then far less will be Quintilia's woe<br>
<span class="tab">At early death and fate's severe decree,<br>
Than the pure pleasure she will feel to know<br>
<span class="tab">How well, how truly she was loved by thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_poems_of_Caius_Valerius_Catullus_tr/j10UAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22calvus%20if%20any%22">Lamb</a> (1821), # 90 "To Calvus, on the Death of Quintilia"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Calvus, if those now silent in the tomb<br>
<span class="tab">Can feel the touch of pleasure in our tears,<br>
For those we loved, who perished in their bloom,<br>
<span class="tab">And the departed friends of former years;<br>
Oh, then, full surely thy Quinctilia's woe,<br>
<span class="tab">For the untimely fate that bade ye part,<br>
Will fade before the bliss she feels ot know,<br>
<span class="tab">How every dear she is unto thy heart!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175007358511&seq=158&q1=calvus">T. Martin</a> (1861), "To Calvus"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Calvus! if from our grief aught can accrue <br>
<span class="tab">The silent dead to solace or to cheer, <br>
When fond regret broods o'er old loves anew, <br>
<span class="tab">And o'er lost friendships sheds the bitter tear <br>
Oh ! then her grief at death's untimely blow <br>
<span class="tab">To thy Quintilia; far, far less must prove <br>
Than the pure joy her soul must feel, to know <br>
<span class="tab">Thy true, unchanging, ever-during love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t1hh7rq7f&seq=176&q1=quintilia">Cranstoun</a> (1867), "To Calvus, on teh Death of Quintilia"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If to the silent dead aught sweet or tender ariseth,<br>
<span class="tab">Calvus, of our dim grief's common humanity born;<br>
When to a love long cold some pensive pity recalls us,<br>
<span class="tab">When for a friend long lost wakes some unhappy regret;<br>
Not so deeply, be sure, Quintilia's early departing<br>
<span class="tab">Grieves her, as in thy love dureth a plenary joy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18867/pg18867-images.html#:~:text=If%20to%20the%20silent,dureth%20a%20plenary%20joy.">Ellis</a> (1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If to the dumb deaf tomb can aught or grateful or pleasing<br>
(Calvus!) ever accrue rising from out of our dule,<br>
Wherewith yearning desire renews our loves in the bygone,<br>
And for long friendships lost many a tear must be shed;<br>
Certès, never so much for doom of premature death-day<br>
Must thy Quintilia mourn as she is joyed by thy love.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-eng1:96">Burton</a> (1893) "To Calvus anent Dead Quintilia"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Calvus, if anything pleasing or welcome from our grief can have an effect on silent graves, then with its longing we renew old loves and weep friendships once lost, surely Quintilia does not mourn her premature death as much as she rejoices in your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-eng2:96">Smithers</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If living sorrows any boon<br>
Unto the silent grave can give,<br>
<span class="tab">When sad remembrances revive<br>
Old loves and friendships fugitive,<br>
She sorrows less she died so soon<br>
<span class="tab">Than joys your love is still alive.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001523304&seq=196&q1=%22if+living+sorrows%22">Symons</a> (c. 1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If the silent grave can receive any pleasure, or sweetness at all from our grief, Calvus, the grief and regret with which we renew our old loves, and weep for long lost friendships, surely Quintilia feels less sorrow for her too early death, than pleasure from your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924074296397&seq=156&q1=%22quintilia%22">Warre Cornish</a> (1904)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If our grief, Calvus, can give any pleasure or consolation to the buried dead, and the yearning with which we re-enkindle old loves, and weep lost friends; then surely Quintilia; must feel less sorrow for her untimely end than joy in your love<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4hm54w4w&seq=230&q1=quintilia">Stuttaford</a> (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If the silent grave can receive any pleasure, or sweetness at all from our grief, Calvus, the grief and regret with which we make our old loves live again, and weep for long-lost friendships, surely Quintilia feels less sorrow for her too early death, than pleasure from your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L006CatullusPoemsTibullusPervigiliumVeneris/page/n183/mode/2up?q=quintilia">Warre Cornish</a> (Loeb) (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If into the silent tomb can steal <br>
<span class="tab">Some tenderness, some thought devine, <br>
If aught from this life the dead can feel, <br>
<span class="tab">Then, Calvus, be this solace thine.<br>
When we mourn old friends with longing heart; <br>
<span class="tab">For dear dead loves in anguish cry, <br>
Oh, there, do they feel the hot tears start, <br>
<span class="tab">Touched by a love that cannot die?<br>
If this be, Calvus, thy sweet girl wife. <br>
<span class="tab">There in the tomb shall less grief know <br>
For her spring time lost, her broken life, <br>
<span class="tab">Than joy in thy love that loved her so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4pk0h310&seq=76&q1=xcvi">Stewart</a> (1915)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If yearning grief can pierce the tomb,<br>
<span class="tab">Reach silent souls and cheer their gloom, <br>
When, Calvus, we lost loves regret, <br>
<span class="tab">And mourn the dear we ne'er forget, <br>
Quintilia'll cease her death to rue, <br>
<span class="tab">For joy she's proved your love so true.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b311029&seq=132&q1=quintilia&view=1up">Symons-Jeune</a> (1923), "To Calvus on Quintilia"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If from our anguish to the voiceless tomb <br>
<span class="tab">Some meed of pleasure and of joy may come <br>
When we recall the love we felt of yore <br>
<span class="tab">And the dear face whom now we see no more, <br>
Then know thy sorrow gives thy wife beneath <br>
<span class="tab">A joy surpassing all the pains of death.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106015467548&seq=180&q1=quintilia&view=1up">Wright</a> (1926), "To Calvus on the Death of His Wife Quintilia"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anything can pierce impenetrable earth and echo in the silence<br>
of the grave, my Calvus, it is our sad memory<br>
of those we love. (Our longing for them makes them bloom again,<br>
quickened with love and friendship,<br>
even though they left us long ago, heavy with tears).<br>
Surely, yur Quintilia now no longer cries against powerful death<br>
(who had taken her away from you too soon and she was gone).<br>
Look, she is radiant, fixed in your mind, happy forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001542577&seq=346&q1=quintilia">Gregory</a> (1931)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If those in their silent graves can receive any pleasure or comfort at all, Calvus, from our lamenting, from that desire which we rekindle former affections and weep for friendships we long ago surrendered, then surely her premature death brings less grief than joy to Quintilia, whom you continue to cherish. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poems_of_Catullus/y_HafujaJM4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22if%20those%20in%20their%20silent%22">C. Martin</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anything from our grief, can reach beyond<br>
the mute grave, Calvus, and be pleasing and welcome,<br>
grief with which, in longing, we revive our lost loves,<br>
and weep for vanished friendships once known,<br>
surely Quintilia’s not so much sad for her early death,<br>
as joyful for your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Catullus.php#anchor_Toc531846823:~:text=If%20anything%20from,for%20your%20love.">Kline</a> (2001), "Beyond The Grave: to Gaius Licinius Calvus"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anything pleasant or welcome, Calvus, can befall the mute sepulchre  in consequence of our grief, from the yearning with which we renew our ancient passions and weep for friendships long since cast away, surely it's not so much grief that's felt by Quintilia at her premature death , as joyfulness in your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poems_of_Catullus/4qsYinaVXQ8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22If%20anything%20pleasant%20or%20welcome%22">Green</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anything pleasing or acceptable to silent sepulchers<br>
<span class="tab">is able to be done by our grief, Calvus,<br>
by this longing we renew old loves<br>
<span class="tab">and we lament once sent away friendships.<br>
Certainly a premature death is not of such sadness<br>
<span class="tab">to Quintilia, so much as she rejoices in your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Catullus_96">Wikisource</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anything dear and welcome can happen in mute graves<br>
Because of our sadness, Calvus,<br>
Because of that longing by which we renew old loves<br>
And by which we weep for friendships formed long ago,<br>
Surely Quintilia isn’t saddened by her untimely death,<br>
But rather, she’s gladdened by your love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2022/04/02/catullus-a-lexicon/#:~:text=If%20anything%20dear%20and%20welcome%20can%20happen%20in%20mute%20graves%0ABecause%20of%20our%20sadness%2C%20Calvus%2C%0ABecause%20of%20that%20longing%20by%20which%20we%20renew%20old%20loves%0AAnd%20by%20which%20we%20weep%20for%20friendships%20formed%20long%20ago%2C%0ASurely%20Quintilia%20isn%E2%80%99t%20saddened%20by%20her%20untimely%20death%2C%0ABut%20rather%2C%20she%E2%80%99s%20gladdened%20by%20your%20love.">Benn</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Claudian -- The Rape of Prosperine [De Raptu Proserpinæ], Book 2, I. 300 (c. AD 396) [tr. Howard (1854)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Proud purple kings shall kneel before thy throne, Mix&#8217;d with the poor, their pomp, their glory gone: All vain distinctions levelled by the grave, Thy righteous sentence shall condemn or save. [Sub tua purpurei venient vestigia reges deposito luxu turba cum paupere mixti (omnia mors aequat); tu damnatura nocentes, tu requiem latura piis.] Pluto reassuring [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proud purple kings shall kneel before thy throne,<br />
<span class="tab">Mix&#8217;d with the poor, their pomp, their glory gone:<br />
All vain distinctions levelled by the grave,<br />
<span class="tab">Thy righteous sentence shall condemn or save.</p>
<p><em>[Sub tua purpurei venient vestigia reges<br />
deposito luxu turba cum paupere mixti<br />
(omnia mors aequat); tu damnatura nocentes,<br />
tu requiem latura piis.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Claudian</b> (c. AD 370-404) Greco-Latin poet
[Claudius Claudianus; Κλαυδιανός]<br><i>The Rape of Prosperine [De Raptu Proserpinæ]</i>, Book 2, I. 300 (c. AD 396) [tr. Howard (1854)] 
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Pluto reassuring Proserpine that being Queen of the Underworld has its benefits.<br><br>

Source of the phrase <i>Omnia mors æquat</i>, "Death levels all things" or "Death makes all equal."<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0685%3Abook%3D2%3Apoem%3D1#:~:text=sub%20tua%20purpurei%20venient%20vestigia%20reges%0Adeposito%20luxu%20turba%20cum%20paupere%20mixti%0A(omnia%20mors%20aequat)%20%3B%20tu%20damnatura%20nocentes%2C%0Atu%20requiem%20latura%20piis">Source (Latin)</a>), Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>The rich-clad purple kings shall humbly fall<br>
<span class="tab">Before thy throne (mixt with the poore) for all<br>
Death equals; thou the guilty and unjust<br>
<span class="tab">Shalt judge, with them, the Innocente and Just.<br>
Those shall bewaile their crimes, these shall be blest<br>
<span class="tab">By thee, and sent into eternal rest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/gpl_1841137/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22To+thy%3Acommands%22">Diggs</a> (1617)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Before thy lofty Throne, the haughty Pride<br>
<span class="tab">Of mighty Kings, their Purple laid aside <br>
And Pageantry of State, shall lowly fall,<br>
<span class="tab">Mix'd with the poorer Rout, for Death will equal all.<br>
In Judgement thou shalt sit, with Pow'r supreme,<br>
<span class="tab">To crown the Pious and the Bad condemn.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_the-rape-of-proserpine-_claudianus-claudius_1723/page/n59/mode/1up">Hughes</a> (1723)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Monarchs shall appear<br>
Before thee, spoil'd of regal ornament,<br>
And undistinguish'd from the vulgar crowd:<br>
Death renders all men equal. Thou shalt judge<br>
The guilty; and thy hand shall give the meed<br>
To virtue.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Rape_of_Proserpine/DgASAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22death%20renders%22">Strutt</a> (1814), l. 369ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To thy feet shall come purple-clothed kings, stripped of their pomp, and mingling with the unmoneyed throng; for death renders all equal. Thou shalt give doom to the guilty and rest to the virtuous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Claudian/De_Raptu_Proserpinae/2*.html#277:~:text=To%20thy%20feet%20shall%20come%20purple%2Dclothed%20kings%2C%20stripped%20of%20their%20pomp%2C%20and%20mingling%20with%20the%20unmoneyed%20throng%3B%20for%20death%20renders%20all%20equal.%20Thou%20shalt%20give%20doom%20to%20the%20guilty%20and%20rest%20to%20the%20virtuous.">Platnauer</a> (Loeb) (1922)] </blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[The barbaric world was to be rewarded in some other world for acting sensibly in this. They were promised rewards in another world, if they would only have self-denial enough to be virtuous in this. If they would forego the pleasures of larceny and murder; if they would forego the thrill and bliss of meanness [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The barbaric world was to be rewarded in some other world for acting sensibly in this. They were promised rewards in another world, if they would only have self-denial enough to be virtuous in this. If they would forego the pleasures of larceny and murder; if they would forego the thrill and bliss of meanness here, they would be rewarded hereafter for that self-denial. I have exactly the opposite idea. Do right, not to deny yourself, but because you love yourself and because you love others. Be generous, because it is better for you. Be just, because any other course is the suicide of the soul. Whoever does wrong plagues himself, and when he reaps that harvest, he will find that he was not practicing self-denial when he did right.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Speech (1886-11-14), &#8220;A Lay Sermon,&#8221; American Secular Union annual congress, Chickering Hall, New York City 
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		<title>Omar Khayyam -- Rubáiyát [رباعیات], Bod. # 127 [tr. Le Gallienne (1897)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eternal torment some sour wits foretell For those who follow wine and love too well, &#8212; Fear not, for God were left alone in Heaven If all the lovely lovers burnt in hell. I am fairly certain I am conflating two different quatrains below, Bodleian 127 (which mentions hypocrisy in the second line), and one [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eternal torment some sour wits foretell<br />
For those who follow wine and love too well, &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">Fear not, for God were left alone in Heaven<br />
If all the lovely lovers burnt in hell.</span></p>
<br><b>Omar Khayyám </b> (1048-1123) Persian poet, mathematician, philosopher, astronomer [عمر خیام]<br><i>Rubáiyát</i> [رباعیات], Bod. # 127 [tr. Le Gallienne (1897)] 
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I am fairly certain I am conflating two different quatrains below, Bodleian 127 (which mentions hypocrisy in the second line), and one not found in that manuscript (see the Whinfield translations). But both conclude with the sentiment that if lovers and drinkers are to be sent to Hell, then Heaven will be empty. Further discernment is left as an exercise for the reader.<br><br>

This quatrain(s) is also unique in FitzGerald only offering a single go at translation, and that in just the 2nd ed.<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If but the Vine and Love-abjuring Band<br>
Are in the Prophet's Paradise to stand,<br>
<span class="tab">Alack, I doubt the Prophet's Paradise<br>
Were empty as the hollow of one's hand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_2nd_edition)#:~:text=If%20but%20the%20Vine%20and%20Love%2Dabjuring%20Band%0AAre%20in%20the%20Prophet%27s%20Paradise%20to%20stand%2C%0AAlack%2C%20I%20doubt%20the%20Prophet%27s%20Paradise%0AWere%20empty%20as%20the%20hollow%20of%20one%27s%20Hand.">FitzGerald</a>, 2nd Ed (1868), # 65; this does not appear in other editions before or after]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Folk say that there is a hell. This is a vain error, in which no trust should be placed, for if there were a hell for lovers and for bibbers of wine, why heaven would be, from to-morrow morn, as empty as the hollow of my hand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/92/mode/2up?q=%22CXXXI+Folk+say%22">McCarthy</a> (1879), # 131] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If wine be an unpardonable sin, <br>
God help Khayyam and his wine-bibbing kin! <br>
<span class="tab">If all poor drouthy souls be lodged elsewhere, <br>
Heaven's plains must be as bare as maiden's chin.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/200/mode/2up?q=%22wine+be+an+unpardonable%22">Whinfield</a> (1882), # 33]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Drunkards are doomed to hell, so men declare,<br>
Believe it not, 'tis but a foolish scare;<br>
<span class="tab">Heaven will be empty as this hand of mine,<br>
If none who love good drink find entrance there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Quatrains_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Whinfield,_1883)/Quatrains_1-100#:~:text=Drunkards%20are%20doomed%20to%20hell%2C%20so%20men%20declare%2C%0ABelieve%20it%20not%2C%20%27tis%20but%20a%20foolish%20scare%3B%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Heaven%20will%20be%20empty%20as%20this%20hand%20of%20mine%2C%0AIf%20none%20who%20love%20good%20drink%20find%20entrance%20there.">Whinfield</a> (1883), # 67]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To drain the cup, to hover round the fair,<br>
Can hypocritic arts with these compare?<br>
<span class="tab">If all who love and drink are going wrong,<br>
There's many a wight of heaven may well despair!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/the-bodleian-quatrains/bodleian-quatrain-nr-127.html#:~:text=To%20drain%20the%20cup%2C%20to%20hover%20round%20the%20fair%2C%0ACan%20hypocritic%20arts%20with%20these%20compare%3F%0AIf%20all%20who%20love%20and%20drink%20are%20going%20wrong%2C%0AThere%27s%20many%20a%20wight%20of%20heaven%20may%20well%20despair!">Winfield</a> (1883), #381]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With Tales of future pains men threaten me,<br>
They say there is a Hell in store for thee; -- <br>
<span class="tab">Love, if there is a Hell for all like us, <br>
Their Heaven as empty as my Palm will be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/200/mode/2up?q=%22tales+of+future%22">Garner</a> (1887), 1.19]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To drink wine and consort with a company of the beautiful<br>
is better than practising the hypocrisy of the zealot;<br>
<span class="tab">if the lover and the drunkard are doomed to hell,<br>
then no one will see the face of heaven.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n37/mode/2up?q=%22to+drink+wine+and%22">Heron-Allen</a> (1898), # 127]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Better to drink, with fair maids wander free.<br>
Than in deceit to practice piety;<br>
<span class="tab">If sots and lovers all in Hell will be.<br>
Then who would wish the face of Heaven to see?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/thompson---1906.html#:~:text=Better%20to%20drink%2C%20with%20fair%20maids%20wander%20free.%0AThan%20in%20deceit%20to%20practice%20piety%3B%0AIf%20sots%20and%20lovers%20all%20in%20Hell%20will%20be.%0AThen%20who%20would%20wish%20the%20face%20of%20Heaven%20to%20see%3F">Thompson</a> (1906), # 425]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tis better here with Love and Wine to sit <br>
Than to become the zealous hypocrite; <br>
<span class="tab">If all who love or drink are doom'd to Hell, <br>
On whom shall Heaven bestow a benefit?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n37/mode/2up?q=%22better+here+with+Love%22">Talbot</a> (1908), # 127]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Drinking wine and wooing fair ones<br>
Is a better thing than the hypocrisy of fanatics.<br>
<span class="tab">If all who drink wine were to go to Hell<br>
No one would then behold Paradise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/rosen---1928.html#:~:text=Drinking%20wine%20and%20wooing%20fair%20ones%0AIs%20a%20better%20thing%20than%20the%20hypocrisy%20of%20fanatics.%0AIf%20all%20who%20drink%20wine%20were%20to%20go%20to%20Hell%0ANo%20one%20would%20then%20behold%20Paradise.">Rosen</a> (1928), # 256]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Better to drink and dance with rosy fairs,<br>
Than cheat the folk with doubtful pious wares;<br>
<span class="tab">Tho' drunkards, so they say, are doomed to hell,<br>
To go to heaven with cheats who ever cares?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/tirtha---1941.html#:~:text=Better%20to%20drink%20and%20dance%20with%20rosy%20fairs%2C%0AThan%20cheat%20the%20folk%20with%20doubtful%20pious%20wares%3B%0ATho%27%20drunkards%2C%20so%20they%20say%2C%20are%20doomed%20to%20hell%2C%0ATo%20go%20to%20heaven%20with%20cheats%20who%20ever%20cares%3F">Tirtha</a> (1941), # 10.88]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say lovers and drunkards go to hell,<br>
A controversial dictum not easy to accept:<br>
<span class="tab">If the lover and drunkard are for hell,<br>
Tomorrow Paradise will be empty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ruba_iyat_of_Omar_Khayyam/sUN5XLzv8lMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%2287%20*%20They%20say%22">Avery/Heath-Stubbs</a> (1979), # 87]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Burns, Robert -- &#8220;Epitaph on My Own Friend and My Father&#8217;s Friend, William Muir in Tarbolton,&#8221; ll. 7-8 (1784-04), First Commonplace Book (1785).</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s another world, he lives in bliss;<br />
If there is none, he made the best of this.</p>
<br><b>Robert Burns</b> (1759-1796) Scottish national poet<br>&#8220;Epitaph on My Own Friend and My Father&#8217;s Friend, William Muir in Tarbolton,&#8221; ll. 7-8 (1784-04), <i>First Commonplace Book</i> (1785). 
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A mock epitaph for William Muir (1745-1793), a miller in Tarbolton and good friend to Burns' family.						</span>
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		<title>Omar Khayyam -- Rubáiyát [رباعیات], Bod. # 129 [tr. FitzGerald (1859), # 23]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, make the most of what we yet may spend,<br />
Before we too into the Dust Descend;<br />
<span class="tab">Dust into Dust, and under Dust, to lie,<br />
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer and &#8212; sans End!<br />
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<br><b>Omar Khayyám </b> (1048-1123) Persian poet, mathematician, philosopher, astronomer [عمر خیام]<br><i>Rubáiyát</i> [رباعیات], Bod. # 129 [tr. FitzGerald (1859), # 23] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_1st_edition)/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam#:~:text=Ah%2C%20make%20the,and%E2%80%94sans%20End!" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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FitzGerald used the same translation for all his editions, though the number changed -- #23 in the 1st, #26 in the 2nd, and #24 in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th. editions.<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Yon rolling heaven for our destruction, yours and mine,<br>
Aims its stroke at our lives, yours and mine;<br>
<span class="tab">Come, live, sit on the grass - it will not be long<br>
Ere grass grows out of our dust, yours and mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/cowell---1858.html#:~:text=Yon%20rolling%20heaven%20for%20our%20destruction%2C%20yours%20and%20mine%2C%0AAims%20its%20stroke%20at%20our%20lives%2C%20yours%20and%20mine%3B%0ACome%2C%20live%2C%20sit%20on%20the%20grass%20%2D%20it%20will%20not%20be%20long%0AEre%20grass%20grows%20out%20of%20our%20dust%2C%20yours%20and%20mine.">Cowell</a> (1858), # 3]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This wheel of heaven seeks my destruction and thine, it plots against my soul and thine. Come, seat thyself upon the grass, for in a little while fresh grass will spring from this dust of mine and thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22this+wheel+of+heaven+seeks%22">McCarthy</a> (1879), # 358] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The wheel of heaven still holds his set design<br>
To take away thy life, O love and mine,<br>
<span class="tab">Sit we on this green turf, 'twill not be long<br>
Ere turf will hide my dust along with thine<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22still+holds+his+set%22">Whinfield</a> (1882), # 205]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Love, for ever doth heaven's wheel design<br>
To take away thy precious life, and mine;<br>
<span class="tab">Sit we upon this turf, 't will not be long<br>
Ere turf shall grow upon my dust, and thine!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Quatrains_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Whinfield,_1883)/Quatrains_301-400#:~:text=Love%2C%20for%20ever%20doth%20heaven%27s%20wheel%20design%0ATo%20take%20away%20thy%20precious%20life%2C%20and%20mine%3B%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Sit%20we%20upon%20this%20turf%2C%20%27twill%20not%20be%20long%0AEre%20turf%20shall%20grow%20upon%20my%20dust%2C%20and%20thine!">Whinfield</a> (1883), # 390]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The "wheel of heaven" in its Fatal Play<br>
Will soon our Breath of Being steal away, --<br>
<span class="tab">Come rest thee on this bank, for from our dust<br>
Will spring the Vedure at no distant day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22its+fatal+play%22">Garner</a> (1887), 3.3]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The wheel of Heaven thy death and mine is bringing, friend!<br>
Over our lives the cloud of doom 't is flinging, friend!<br>
<span class="tab">Come, sit upon this turf, for little time is left<br>
Ere fresher turf shall from our dust be springing, friend!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22the+wheel+of+heaven+thy%22">M. K.</a> (1888)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Beautiful wheel of blue above my head,<br>
Will you be turning still when I am dead?<br>
<span class="tab">Were you still turning long before I came? --<br>
O bitter thought to take with me to bed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/galliennerubaiya00omarrich/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22beautiful+wheel%22">Le Gallienne</a> (1897), # 54]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The heavenly vault, for the sake of my destruction and thine,<br>
wages war upon my pure sole and thine;<br>
<span class="tab">Sit upon the green sward, O my Idol! for it will not be long<br>
ere that green sward shall grow from my dust and thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n39/mode/2up?q=%22this+heavenly+vault+for%22">Heron-Allen</a> (1898), # 129]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Against our dear lives holding its design,<br>
This wheel of Heaven doth plot thy death and mine;<br>
<span class="tab">Come sit upon this grass, 'twill not be long<br>
Ere verdure springs up from my dust and thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/thompson---1906.html#:~:text=Against%20our%20dear%20lives%20holding%20its%20design%2C%0AThis%20wheel%20of%20Heaven%20doth%20plot%20thy%20death%20and%20mine%3B%0ACome%20sit%20upon%20this%20grass%2C%20%27twill%20not%20be%20long%0AEre%20verdure%20springs%20up%20from%20my%20dust%20and%20thine.">Thompson</a> (1906), # 442]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Heavens, that they may destroy us both,<br>
On our pure souls to war are nothing loth;<br>
<span class="tab">Sit down, my Idol, on the grass, for soon<br>
My dust and thine shall aid its vernal growth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/talbot---1908.html#:~:text=The%20Heavens%2C%20that%20they%20may%20destroy%20us%20both%2C%0AOn%20our%20pure%20souls%20to%20war%20are%20nothing%20loth%3B%0ASit%20down%2C%20my%20Idol%2C%20on%20the%20grass%2C%20for%20soon%0AMy%20dust%20and%20thine%20shall%20aid%20its%20vernal%20growth.">Talbot</a> (1908), # 129]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This wheel of Heaven, for the sake of my destruction<br>
and thine, has designs upon my pure soul and thine.<br>
<span class="tab">Sit down on the grass, o idol, for it will not be long<br>
ere grass shall spring from my dust and thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/christensen---1927.html#:~:text=This%20wheel%20of%20Heaven%2C%20for%20the%20sake%20of%20my%20destruction%0Aand%20thine%2C%20has%20designs%20upon%20my%20pure%20soul%20and%20thine.%0ASit%20down%20on%20the%20grass%2C%20o%20idol%2C%20for%20it%20will%20not%20be%20long%0Aere%20grass%20shall%20spring%20from%20my%20dust%20and%20thine.">Christensen</a> (1927), # 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This Wheel of the Spheres revolves for your annihilation and for mine,<br>
It has evil intentions on your pure soul and on mine.<br>
<span class="tab">Rest on the meadow, my Iove, for not much time will pass.<br>
Until grass springs from your dust and from mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/rosen---1928.html#:~:text=This%20Wheel%20of%20the%20Spheres%20revolves%20for%20your%20annihilation%20and%20for%0Amine%2C%0AIt%20has%20evil%20intentions%20on%20your%20pure%20soul%20and%20on%20mine.%0ARest%20on%20the%20meadow%2C%20my%20Iove%2C%20for%20not%20much%20time%20will%20pass.%0AUntil%20grass%20springs%20from%20your%20dust%20and%20from%20mine.">Rosen</a> (1928), # 262]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This Wheel of time effaces me and thee,<br>
To slaughter us it chases me and thee;<br>
<span class="tab">Sit on the lawn and love, for time arrives<br>
When lawn would hide our traces, me and thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/tirtha---1941.html#:~:text=This%20Wheel%20of%20time%20effaces%20me%20and%20thee%2C%0ATo%20slaughter%20us%20it%20chases%20me%20and%20thee%3B%0ASit%20on%20the%20lawn%20and%20love%2C%20for%20time%20arrives%0AWhen%20lawn%20would%20hide%20our%20traces%2C%20me%20and%20thee.">Tirtha</a> (1941), # 2.53]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Allow no shadow of regret to cloud you,<br>
No absurd grief to overcast your days.<br>
Never renounce love-songs, or lawns, or kisses<br>
Until your clay lies mixed with elder clay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/originalrubaiyya00omar/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22shadow+of+regret%22">Graves & Ali-Shah</a> (1967), # 24]  </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>This wheel of heaven, in order to destroy me and thee, has fell purpose against my innocent soul and thine: sit on the grass, and drink wine, and be happy, for this grass shall spring from my dust and thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_0856680389/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22this+wheel+of+heaven%22">Bowen</a> (1976), # 14]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The wheel of Fate is crooked. It destroys<br>
<span class="tab">Such innocent young souls as yours and mine:<br>
So, joyously, sit down upon the grass<br>
<span class="tab">And while away this hour in drinking wine.<br>
Alas! the herbage which delights our eyes,<br>
<span class="tab">On which you now recline your lovely head,<br>
Is rooted in the dust of loves -- and<br>
<span class="tab">Will spring from ours one day when we are dead.<br>
[alt. tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_0856680389/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22joyously+sit+down%22">Bowen</a> (1976), # 14]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Don’t permit sorrow to be your friend<br>
Sadness and pain become your trend<br>
<span class="tab">Don’t let the book or the farm you tend<br>
Rule your life before to earth you descend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.okonlife.com/poems/page2.htm#:~:text=Don%E2%80%99t%20permit%20sorrow%20to%20be%20your%20friend%0ASadness%20and%20pain%20become%20your%20trend%0ADon%E2%80%99t%20let%20the%20book%20or%20the%20farm%20you%20tend%0ARule%20your%20life%20before%20to%20earth%20you%20descend.">Shahriari</a> (1998), literal]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Before to dust you shall return<br>
There is one thing that you must learn<br>
<span class="tab">Sorrow and pain your soul shall burn<br>
Joy and bliss to light shall turn.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.okonlife.com/poems/page2.htm#:~:text=Before%20to%20dust%20you%20shall%20return%0AThere%20is%20one%20thing%20that%20you%20must%20learn%0ASorrow%20and%20pain%20your%20soul%20shall%20burn%0AJoy%20and%20bliss%20to%20light%20shall%20turn.">Shahriari</a> (1998), figurative]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Lessing, Gotthold -- The Education of the Human Race [Die Erziehung des Menschengeschlechts] (1780)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">§ 94. But why should every individual not have been present more than once in this world?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 95. Is this hypothesis so ridiculous just because it is the oldest one? Because the human understanding hit up on it at once, before it was distracted and weakened by the sophistry of the schools?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 98. Why should I not come back as often as I am able to acquire new knowledge and new accomplishments? Do I take away so much on one occasion that it may not be worth the trouble coming back?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 100. Or am I not to return because too much time would be lost in so doing? &#8212; Lost? &#8212; And what exactly do I have to lose? Is not the whole of eternity mine?</p>
<p><em><span class="tab">[§ 94. Aber warum könnte jeder einzelne Mensch auch nicht mehr als einmal auf dieser Welt vorhanden gewesen seyn?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 95. Ist diese Hypothese darum so lächerlich, weil sie die älteste ist? weil der menschliche Verstand, ehe ihn die Sophisterey der Schule zerstreut und geschwächt hatte, sogleich darauf verfiel?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 98. Warum sollte ich nicht so oft wiederkommen, als ich neue Kenntnisse, neue Fertigkeiten zu erlangen geschickt bin? Bringe ich auf Einmal so viel weg, daß es der Mühe wieder zu kommen etwa nicht lohnet?<br />
<span class="tab">§ 100. Oder, weil so zu viel Zeit für mich verloren gehen würde?—Verloren? —Und was habe ich denn zu versäumen? Ist nicht die ganze Ewigkeit mein?]</span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Gotthold Lessing</b> (1729-1781) German playwright, philosopher, dramaturg, writer<br><i>The Education of the Human Race [Die Erziehung des Menschengeschlechts]</i> (1780) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/lessing-the-education-of-the-human-race-camb/page/238/mode/2up?q=894" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<blockquote><span class="tab">§ 94. But why should not every individual man have existed more than once upon this World?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 95. Is this hypothesis so laughable merely because it is the oldest? Because the human understanding, before the sophistries of the Schools had dissipated and debilitated it, lighted upon it at once?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 98. Why should I not come back as often as I am capable of acquiring fresh knowledge, fresh expertness? Do I bring away so much from once, that there is nothing to repay the trouble of coming back?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 100. Or is it a reason against the hypothesis that so much time would have been lost to me? Lost? -- And how much then should I miss? -- Is not a whole Eternity mine?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/educationofthehu00lessuoft/page/n95/mode/2up?q=%22But+why+mould%22">Robertson</a> (1862)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">§ 94. But why could not each individual man Have been existent on this earth more than once?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 95. Is this hypothesis therefore so absurd because it is the oldest, because the human understanding, ere enfeebled and scattered by sophistry, immediately hit upon it?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 98. Why may I not return as often as I am fit to acquire new knowledge, new skill? Do I bring away so much <i>at once</i> that there is not wherewith to recompense the burden of return?<br>
<span class="tab">§ 100. Or is it because too much time would thus for me be lost? Lost? And what have I to lose? Is not mine a whole eternity?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924030605160/page/n63/mode/2up?q=%22But+why+could+not+each+individual%22">Haney</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Longfellow, Henry Wadsworth -- &#8220;Resignation,&#8221; st.  5 (1849), The Seaside and the Fireside (1850)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no Death! What seems so is transition;<br />
<span class="tab">This life of mortal breath<br />
Is but a suburb of the life Elysian,<br />
<span class="tab">Whose portal we call Death. </p>
<br><b>Henry Wadsworth Longfellow</b> (1807-1882) American poet<br>&#8220;Resignation,&#8221; st.  5 (1849), <i>The Seaside and the Fireside</i> (1850) 
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		<title>Montesquieu -- Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes], Letter 126, Rica to *** (1721) [tr. Davidson (1891)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen descriptions of Paradise sufficient to make all sensible people give up their hopes of it: some make the happy shades play incessantly on the flute; others condemn them to the torture of an everlasting promenade; while others, who represent them as dreaming on high of their mistresses below, are of opinion that a period of a hundred millions years is not sufficient to overcome a taste for the pains of love.</p>
<p><em>[J’ai vu des descriptions du paradis, capables d’y faire renoncer tous les gens de bon sens: les uns font jouer sans cesse de la flûte ces ombres heureuses; d’autres les condamnent au supplice de se promener éternellement; d’autres enfin, qui les font rêver là-haut aux maîtresses d’ici-bas, n’ont pas cru que cent millions d’années fussent un terme assez long pour leur ôter le goût de ces inquiétudes amoureuses.]</em></p>
<br><b>Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu</b> (1689-1755) French political philosopher<br><i>Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes]</i>, Letter 126, Rica to *** (1721) [tr. Davidson (1891)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Persian_Letters/Letter_126#:~:text=I%20have%20seen,pains%20of%20love." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<blockquote>I have seen descriptions of paradise capable of disgusting all men of right understanding: some represent the happy shades incessantly playing on the flute: others condemn them to the punishment of eternally walking about: others again will have those above to be always musing on their mistresses here below, not thinking a hundred millions of years term long enough to make them lose the relish of these amorous inquietudes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters_Translated_by_Mr_Ozell_T/LEZiAAAAcAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22others%20condemn%22">Ozell</a> (1760  ed.), # 123] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have read descriptions of Paradise, capable of disgusting every sensible person. The happy shades, according to the fancy of some, are continually playing on the flute, others condemn them to the punishment of eternally walking about; others in short make  those above to be always raving after their mistresses here below, not thinking a hundred millions of years long enough to make them get quit of their amorous inquietudes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_persian-letters-by-m-_montesquieu-charles-de-_1762_2/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22Paradi%C5%BFe%2C+capable%22">Floyd</a> (1762), # 125]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have read descriptions of Paradise that would lead all sensible people to renounce it at once: some persons would have the happy shades play eternally on the flute; others condemn them to the torture of a never ending promenade; others who make them dream in heaven of their mistresses on earth, have expressed their belief that even a hundred millions of years would not be long enough to take from them the zest for amatory excitements.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/persianletters00degoog/page/n280/mode/2up?q=%22read+descriptions+of+Paradise%22">Betts</a> (1897), # 125]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have seen descriptions of paradise that would have made any sensible person reject it. Some would have the joyous shades play incessantly upon the flute; others would condemn them to the torture of an eternal promenade; others, who would have them dream on high of their mistresses down below, have assumed that even in a hundred million years they will not lose their taste for such uneasy affairs.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/montesquieu-persian-letters-healy/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22descriptions+of+paradise%22">Healy</a> (1964), # 125]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have seen descriptions of paradise that would make any man of sense avid going there. Some say the happy spirits in the afterlife engage in an endless bout of flute playing; others that it is an interminable walking about. Others depict them as endlessly dreaming about their mistresses down here, apparently thinking that a hundred million years is too short a time for us to lose our taste for these amorous adventures.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/UK5aBAAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20have%20seen%20descriptions%22">MacKenzie</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Dryden, John -- Aureng-zebe, Act 4, sc. 1 (1675)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distrust, and darkness, of a future state,<br />
Make poor Mankind so fearful of their Fate.<br />
Death, in itself, is nothing; but we fear<br />
To be we know not what, we know not where.</p>
<br><b>John Dryden</b> (1631-1700) English poet, dramatist, critic<br><i>Aureng-zebe,</i> Act 4, sc. 1 (1675) 
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		<title>Donne, John -- Holy Sonnets, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll. 13-14 (1609)</title>
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And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.</p>
<br><b>John Donne</b> (1572-1631) English poet<br><i>Holy Sonnets</i>, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll. 13-14 (1609) 
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		<title>Borges, Jorge Luis -- Quoted in “The Talk of the Town” column, The New Yorker (1986-07-07)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation. </p>
<br><b>Jorge Luis Borges</b> (1899-1986) Argentine writer<br>Quoted in “The Talk of the Town” column, <i>The New Yorker</i> (1986-07-07) 
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		<title>Donne, John -- Holy Sonnets, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll.  5-6 (1609)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,<br />
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow.</p>
<br><b>John Donne</b> (1572-1631) English poet<br><i>Holy Sonnets</i>, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll.  5-6 (1609) 
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age], ch. 23 / sec. 85 (23.85) (44 BC) [tr. Freeman (2016)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If, as certain small-minded philosophers believe, I shall feel nothing at all after death, then at least I don&#8217;t have to worry that they will be there to mock me after they die! &#160; [Sin mortuus, ut quidam minuti philosophi censent, nihil sentiam, non vereor ne hunc errorem meum philosophi mortui irrideant.] Critiquing the Epicurians, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, as certain small-minded philosophers believe, I shall feel nothing at all after death, then at least I don&#8217;t have to worry that they will be there to mock me after they die!<br />
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<em>[Sin mortuus, ut quidam minuti philosophi censent, nihil sentiam, non vereor ne hunc errorem meum philosophi mortui irrideant.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age]</i>, ch. 23 / sec. 85 (23.85) (44 BC) [tr. Freeman (2016)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_to_Grow_Old/AW2YDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=mock" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Critiquing the Epicurians, who would disagree with his belief in an immortal soul.<br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0038%3Asection%3D85#:~:text=sin%20mortuus%2C%20ut%20quidam%20minuti%20philosophi%20censent%2C%20nihil%20sentiam%2C%20non%20vereor%20ne%20hunc%20errorem%20meum%20philosophi%20mortui%20irrideant.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For if aftir this presente life I be dede as wele in soule as in body as that some yong and smale philosophers of whiche men name Epycures that affermyn, Certayne it is that I shall feele nothyng. And also I am not afferde that suche philosophers so ded mockyn me nor of this myne oppinion. Aftir whiche I verily beleve that the soules be undedly. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A69111.0001.001/1:3.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=ffor%20if%20aftir,soules%20be%20vndedly%20/">Worcester/Worcester/Scrope</a> (1481)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if it were not so, that after death I should feel nothing nor have any sense at all (as certain perrifoggers and bastard philosophers hold opinino) I fear not a whit least these lip-labourers and ideitical philosophers, when they themselves be dead, should scoff and make a mocking-stock at this mine assertion and belief, because they themselves shall also be without sense, and like to brute beasts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosbooksfri00harrgoog/page/n186/mode/2up?q=%22that+after+death%22">Newton</a> (1569)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if when I am dead (as some small Philosophers say) I shall feel nothing, I fear not least the dead Philosophers should laugh at this my error. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A33149.0001.001/1:4.24?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=and%20I%20depart%20out%20of%20this%20life%2C%20as%20from%20an%20Inne%2C%20not%20as%20from%20a%20continuall%20ha%E2%88%A3bitation%3B%20for%20nature%20hath%20given%20us%20a%20place%20to%20rest%20in%2C%20not%20to%20dwell%20in.">Austin</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If those who this Opinion have despis'd,<br>
And their whole life to pleasure sacrific'd;<br>
Should feel their error, they when undeceiv'd,<br>
Too late will wish, that me they had believ'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B21163.0001.001/1:4.5?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=If%20those%20who,they%20had%20believ%27d.">Denham</a> (1669)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if after this Life I shall no longer be sensible, as some little Philosophers imagine, then am I in no Fear that dead Philosophers will laugh at my mistaken Opinion.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cato_Major_Or_Marcus_Tullius_Cicero_s_Tr/dehhAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22am%20I%20in%20no%20fear%22">J. D.</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if, when dead, I should (as some minute Philosophers imagine) be deprived of all further Sense, I am safe at least in this, that those Blades themselves will have no Opportunity beyond the Grave to laugh at me for my Opinion.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=evans;c=evans;idno=N04335.0001.001;node=N04335.0001.001:5.23;seq=1;rgn=div2;view=text#:~:text=And%20if%2C%20when%20dead%2C%20I%20should%20(as%20some%20minute%20Philosophers%20imagine)%20be%20de%7Cprived%20of%20all%20further%20Sense%2C%20I%20am%20safe%20at%20least%20in%20this%2C%20that%20those%20Blades%20themselves%20will%20have%20no%20Opportunity%20beyond%20the%20Grave%20to%20laugh%20at%20me%20for%20my%20Opinion.">Logan</a> (1744)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have the satisfaction in the meantime to be assured that if death should utterly extinguish my existence, as some minute philosophers assert, the groundless hope I entertained of an after-life in some better state cannot expose me to the derision of these wonderful sages, when they and I shall be no more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/oldageandfriends00ciceuoft/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22assured+that+if+death%22">Melmoth</a> (1773)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if (as certain super-subtle philosophers conclude) I shall feel nothing, I am not afraid lest these philosophers, when dead, should ridicule this error of mine.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_Literally_Translated_E/OKb5knapj7IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22philosophers%20conclude%22">Cornish Bros.</a> ed. (1847)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I, when dead, shall have no consciousness, as some narrow-minded philosophers imagine, I do not fear lest dead philosophers should ridicule this my delusion.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosthreeboo00cice/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22narrow-minded%22">Edmonds</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>While if in death, as some paltry philosophers think, I shall have no consciousness, the dead philosophers cannot ridicule this delusion of mine. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cicero_de_Senectute/Text#:~:text=while%20if%20in%20death%2C%20as%20some%20paltry%20philosophers%5B103%5D%20think%2C%20I%20shall%20have%20no%20consciousness%2C%20the%20dead%20philosophers%20cannot%20ridicule%20this%20delusion%20of%20mine.">Peabody</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if when dead, as some insignificant philosophers think, I am to be without sensation, I am not afraid of dead philosophers deriding my errors.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2808/pg2808-images.html#link2H_4_0003:~:text=But%20if%20when%20dead%2C%20as%20some%20insignificant%20philosophers%20think%2C%20I%20am%20to%20be%20without%20sensation%2C%20I%20am%20not%20afraid%20of%20dead%20philosophers%20deriding%20my%20errors.">Shuckburgh</a> (1895)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But if when dead;<br>
As some philosophers of little note<br>
Believe, I feel no more, there is no fear <br>
These dead philosophers should mock me there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft70v9281n&view=2up&seq=72&q1=%22but+if+when+dead%22">Allison</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if when dead I am going to be without sensation (as some petty philosophers think), then I have no fear that these seers, when they are dead, will have the laugh on me! <br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0039%3Asection%3D85#:~:text=But%20if%20when%20dead%20I%20am%20going%20to%20be%20without%20sensation%20(as%20some%20petty%20philosophers%20think)%2C%20then%20I%20have%20no%20fear%20that%20these%20seers%2C%20when%20they%20are%20dead%2C%20will%20have%20the%20laugh%20on%20me!">Falconer</a> (1923)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>True, certain insignificant philosophers hold that I shall feel nothing after death. If so, then at least I need not fear that after their own deaths they will be able to mock my conviction!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Works_Cicero_Marcus_Tullius/7g1OF04FoW8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22insignificant%20philosophers%22">Grant</a> (1960, 1971 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If on the other hand, as certain petty philosophers have held, I shall have no sensation when I am dead, then I need have no fear that deceased philosophers will make fun of this delusion of mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/onoldageonfriend0000unse/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22if+on+the+other+hand+as%22">Copley</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some second-rate philosophers suggest that when I am dead I will be conscious of nothing. But all that means is that, if I’m wrong, they won't be able to make fun of me after <i>their</i> death.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/redflareciceroso0000cice/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22some+second-rate%22">Cobbold</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But anyway, if when I die my spirit also dies, I certainly won't give a flip about the opinions of dead philosophers.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_To_Be_Old/OREcBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22But%20anyway,%20if%20when%22">Gerberding</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If when I am dead I’ll have no sensation,<br>
As some small philosophers think, I won’t fear<br>
Accents of derision from their graves to hear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.crtpesaro.it/Materiali/Latino/De%20Senectute.php#:~:text=If%20when%20I%20am%20dead%20I%E2%80%99ll%20have%20no%20sensation%2C%0AAs%20some%20small%20philosophers%20think%2C%20I%20won%E2%80%99t%20fear%0AAccents%20of%20derision%20from%20their%20graves%20to%20hear.">Bozzi</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 2 &#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221; Canto  3, l.  31ff (3.31-39) (1314) [tr. Kirkpatrick (2007)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To suffer torments both of heat and chill,<br />
<span class="tab">the Utmost Power gives bodies, fit for that,<br />
<span class="tab">not wishing <i>how</i> it does to be revealed.<br />
It&#8217;s madness if we hope that rational minds<br />
<span class="tab">should ever follow to its end the road<br />
<span class="tab">that one true being in three persons takes.<br />
Content yourselves with <i>quia</i>, human kind.<br />
<span class="tab">Had you been able to see everything,<br />
<span class="tab">Mary need not have laboured to give birth. </p>
<p><em>[A sofferir tormenti, caldi e geli<br />
<span class="tab">simili corpi la Virtù dispone<br />
<span class="tab">che, come fa, non vuol ch’a noi si sveli.<br />
Matto è chi spera che nostra ragione<br />
<span class="tab">possa trascorrer la infinita via<br />
<span class="tab">che tiene una sustanza in tre persone.<br />
State contenti, umana gente, al quia;<br />
<span class="tab">ché, se potuto aveste veder tutto,<br />
<span class="tab">mestier non era parturir Maria.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 2 <i>&#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.  31ff (3.31-39) (1314) [tr. Kirkpatrick (2007)] 
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Virgil chides Dante to stop trying to figure out the biology, let alone divine purpose, of the Afterlife, and just accept the <em>what</em> <em>(quia),</em> the existence of it, rather than the <em>how</em> or <em>why</em>, which are as incomprehensible as the Trinity; if human reason could suffice to understand God, there would have been no reason for Jesus to have been born to save humanity.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Purgatorio/Canto_III#:~:text=A%20sofferir%20tormenti,era%20parturir%20Maria">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Why these sky-woven forms, that seem to fly<br>
All mortal sense, can suffer and enjoy<br>
<span class="tab">Heav'n's bliss, and all th' extremes of fire and frost, <br>
That Power that so decrees, can best explain: <br>
Created plummet sounds that depth in vain.<br>
<span class="tab">In <i>that</i>, as in the Trinal Union, lost.<br>
Too anxious mortals! learn to be resign'd;<br>
Could the deep secrets of th' Almighty Mind<br>
<span class="tab">Be seen, nor Sin nor Savior had been known.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediad00unkngoog/page/n88/mode/2up?q=%22Why+tfiefe+flty-woven%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 7-8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To endure<br>
Torments of heat and cold extreme, like frames<br>
That virtue hath dispos’d, which how it works<br>
Wills not to us should be reveal’d. Insane<br>
Who hopes, our reason may that space explore,<br>
Which holds three persons in one substance knit.<br>
Seek not the wherefore, race of human kind;<br>
Could ye have seen the whole, no need had been<br>
For Mary to bring forth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8795/8795-h/8795-h.htm#cantoII.3:~:text=To%20endure%0ATorments,to%20bring%20forth.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both the cold and hot,<br>
<span class="tab">Bodies alike in form has he annealed --<br>
<span class="tab">The how he wishes not to use revealed.<br>
Foolish! who think our reason can unveil,<br>
<span class="tab">Or hope to pass the infinital way<br>
<span class="tab">To find three persons one Substantiality:<br>
Remain content without the manner how.<br>
<span class="tab">Could you have seen at once the whole of worth, <br>
<span class="tab">Why was it meet Maria should bring forth?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22to+suffer+torments%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both of cold and heat,<br>
<span class="tab">Bodies like this that Power provides, which wills<br>
<span class="tab">That how it works be not unveiled to us.<br>
Insane is he who hopeth that our reason<br>
<span class="tab">Can traverse the illimitable way, ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">Which the one Substance in three Persons follows!<br>
Mortals, remain contented at the <i>Quia;</i><br>
<span class="tab">For if ye had been able to see all,<br>
<span class="tab">No need there were for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_2/Canto_3#:~:text=To%20suffer%20torments,to%20give%20birth">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments both of heat and cold that Power ordains such bodies, which will not that the manner of its working be revealed to us. Mad is he who hopes that our reason can travel over the boundless way, which one Substance in three Persons holds. Remain content, race of mankind, at the <i>quia,</i> for if you could have seen all no need was there that Mary should bring forth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorydantea00aliggoog/page/n44/mode/2up?q=%22suffer+torments%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, heat, and cold, is given<br>
<span class="tab">To bodies like to this, by high decree,<br>
<span class="tab">The how 'tis done by man cannot be riven. <br>
He's mad who thinks our human reason free <br>
<span class="tab">Along the infinite career to run, <br>
<span class="tab">Of God, the substance one in Persons three. <br>
Be ye content, O man, the Why unknown:<br>
<span class="tab">Had ye been able to behold the whole,<br>
<span class="tab">No need had Mary to bring forth her son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22suffer+torments%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both hot and cold, bodies like this the Power ordains, which wills not that how it acts be revealed to us. Mad is he who hopes that our reason can traverse the infinite way which One Substance in Three Persons holds. Be content, human race, with the <i>quia;</i> for if ye had been able to see everything, need had not been for Mary to bear child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1996/1996-h/1996-h.htm#cantoII.III:~:text=To%20suffer%20torments,to%20hear%20child">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">To suffer torments, heat and frost, bodies such as these that power disposes, which will not that its workings be revealed to us. <br>
<span class="tab">Mad is he who hopes that our reason may compass that infinitude which one substance in three persons fills.<br>
<span class="tab">Be ye content, O human race, with the <i>quia!</i> For if ye had been able to see the whole, no need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Purgatorio_of_Dante_Alighieri/ygLFmww0EEYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22suffer%20torments%22">Okey</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power fits such bodies as these to suffer torments of heat and frost which wills not that the way of its working should be revealed to us. Foolish is he who hopes that our reason can trace the infinite ways taken by one Substance in three Persons. Rest content, race of men, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see all there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/iipurgatoriowith00dant/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22Power+fits+such%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That power disposes bodies like to mine<br>
<span class="tab">In torments both of heat and frost to weep<br>
<span class="tab">Which wills not that its working we divine.<br>
He is mad who hopes that reason in its sweep<br>
<span class="tab">The infinite way can traverse back and forth<br>
<span class="tab">Which the Three Persons in one substance keep.<br>
With the <i>quia</i> stay content, children of earth!<br>
<span class="tab">For if the whole before your eyes had lain,<br>
<span class="tab">No need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/198/mode/2up?q=%22power+disposes%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bodies like mine, to bear pain, cold and heat,<br>
<span class="tab">That power ordains, whose will forever spreads<br>
<span class="tab">A veil between its working and our wit.<br>
Madness! that reason lodged in human heads<br>
<span class="tab">should hope to traverse backward and unweave<br>
<span class="tab">The infinite path Three-personed Substance treads.<br>
Content you with the <i>quia,</i> sons of Eve,<br>
<span class="tab">For had you power to see the whole truth plain<br>
<span class="tab">No need had been for Mary to conceive.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteali00alig/page/88/mode/2up?q=quia">Sayers</a> (1955)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">We react<br>
within these bodies to pain and heat and cold <br>
<span class="tab">according to the workings of That Will <br>
<span class="tab">which does not will that all Its ways be told. <br>
He is insane who dreams that he may learn <br>
<span class="tab">by mortal reasoning the boundless orbit <br>
<span class="tab">Three Persons in One Substance fill and turn.<br>
Be satisfied with the <i>quia</i> of cause unknown,<br>
<span class="tab">O humankind! for could you have seen All,<br>
<span class="tab">Mary need not have suffered to bear a son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio00dant/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22within+these+bodies%22">Ciardi</a> (1961)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, heat, and frost, bodies such as these that Power ordains, which wills not that the way of its working be revealed to us. Foolish is he who hopes that our reason may compass the infinite course taken by One Substance in Three Persons. Be content, human race, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see everything, no need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_II_Purgatorio_Vol_II_P/2Q48EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20suffer%20torments%22">Singleton</a> (1973)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet bodies such as ours are sensitive<br>
<span class="tab">to pain and cold and heat -- willed by that Power<br>
<span class="tab">which wills its secret not to be revealed;<br>
madness it is to hope that human minds<br>
<span class="tab">can ever understand the Infinite<br>
<span class="tab">that comprehends Three Persons in One Being.<br>
Be staisfied with <i>quia</i> unexplained,<br>
<span class="tab">O human race! If you knew everything,<br>
<span class="tab">no need for Mary to have borne a son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantealighierisd03dant/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22yet+bodies+such%22">Musa</a> (1981)] </blockquote>v

<blockquote>Omnipotence disposes bodies like mine <br>
<span class="tab">To suffer torments both from heat and cold, <br>
<span class="tab">And how it does so, does not see fit to reveal.<br>
Only a madman would expect our reason <br>
<span class="tab">To follow all that infinite approach <br>
<span class="tab">And understand one substance in three persons.<br>
The human race should be content with the <i>quia:</i> <br>
<span class="tab">For if it had been able to see everything, <br>
<span class="tab">No need for Mary to have had a child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/208/mode/2up?q=%22omnipotence+disposes%22">Sisson</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power has disposed such bodiless <br>
<span class="tab">bodies to suffer torments, heat and cold: <br>
<span class="tab">how this is done, He would not have us know.<br>
Foolish is he who hopes our intellect <br>
<span class="tab">can reach the end of that unending road <br>
<span class="tab">only one Substance in three Persons follows.<br>
Confine yourselves, o humans, to the <i>quia;</i> <br>
<span class="tab">had you been able to see all, there would <br>
<span class="tab">have been no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio0000dant_m5q7/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22the+power+has+disposed%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Such bodies are disposed to suffer torments, heat, and freezings by the Power that does not wish its ways to be unveiled to us.<br>
<span class="tab">He is mad who hopes that our reason can traverse the infinite way taken by one Substance in three Persons.<br>
<span class="tab">Be content, human people, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see everything, there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0002dant_d4k9/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22such+bodies+are+disposed%22">Durling</a> (2003)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That power, that does not will that its workings should be revealed to us, disposes bodies such as these to suffer torments, fire and ice. He is foolish who hopes that our reason may journey on the infinite road, that one substance in three persons owns. Stay, content, human race, with the <i>‘what’:</i> since if you had been able to understand it all, there would have been no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantPurg1to7.php#anchor_Toc64099526:~:text=That%20power%2C%20that,to%20give%20birth">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power that fits bodies like ours<br>
<span class="tab">to suffer torments, heat, and cold<br>
<span class="tab">does not reveal the secret of its working.<br>
Foolish is he who hopes that with our reason<br>
<span class="tab">we can trace the infinite path<br>
<span class="tab">taken by one Substance in three Persons.<br>
Be content, then, all you mortals, with the <i>quia,</i><br>
<span class="tab">for could you, on your own, have understood,<br>
<span class="tab">there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?INP_POEM=Purg&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=31&INP_LEN=9&LANG=0">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These bodies were made by God, they endure troubles,<br>
<span class="tab">And heat, and frost -- but we are not informed<br>
<span class="tab">How this is accomplished; He does not want us to know.<br>
You have to be mad, hoping that human reason<br>
<span class="tab">Can ever unravel the infinite things He does,<br>
<span class="tab">Three Persons simultaneously only One.<br>
Be satisfied, O humans, with Reality,<br>
<span class="tab">For had you ever been able to see and know <br>
<span class="tab">It all, why bother with God in Mary's womb?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22these%20bodies%20were%20made%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[But if I err in this Opinion, that the Soul of Man is immortal, sure it is a pleasing Error, so pleasing that I can never shake it off while I live. [Quod si in hoc erro, qui animos hominum immortalis esse credam, libenter erro nec mihi hunc errorem, quo delector, dum vivo, extorqueri volo.] [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if I err in this Opinion, that the Soul of Man is immortal, sure it is a pleasing Error, so pleasing that I can never shake it off while I live.</p>
<p><em>[Quod si in hoc erro, qui animos hominum immortalis esse credam, libenter erro nec mihi hunc errorem, quo delector, dum vivo, extorqueri volo.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age]</i>, ch. 23 / sec. 85 (23.85) (44 BC) [tr. J. D. (1744)] 
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0038%3Asection%3D85#:~:text=quod%20si%20in%20hoc%20erro%2C%20qui%20animos%20hominum%20immortalis%20esse%20credam%2C%20libenter%20erro%20nec%20mihi%20hunc%20errorem%2C%20quo%20delector%2C%20dum%20vivo%2C%20extorqueri%20volo">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>But if it be in erroure and oute of trouthe aftir the doctryne and scole of Epycures by cause that I beleve that the soules be undedly and Immortelle perdurable and evirlastyng I answere you that this errour pleasith me and I consente me in it right gladly and as long tyme as I lyve I wille not that any philosopher nor any othir of what condicyon that evir he be take awey fro me this erroure wherin I delyte me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A69111.0001.001/1:3.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=But%20if%20it%20be,wherin%20I%20delyte%20me">Worcester/Worcester/Scrope</a> (1481)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if I do err because I think that the souls of men be immortal, verily I am well contented in the same error still to continue, and as long as I live I will never renounce nor recant the same, wherein I take such singular pleasure and comfort.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosbooksfri00harrgoog/page/n186/mode/2up#:~:text=And%20if%20I,pltajurc%20and%20ecimfmi">Newton</a> (1569)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I do erre that the soules of men bee immortall, I do err willingly, neither will I while I live be wrested from mine opinion wherein I am delighted.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A33149.0001.001/1:4.24?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=But%20if%20I%20do%20erre%20that%20the%20soules%20of%20men%20bee%20immortall%2C%20I%20do%20erre%20willingly%2C%20neither%20will%20I%20while%20I%20live%20be%20wrest%E2%88%A3ed%20from%20mine%20opinion%20wherein%20I%20am%20delighted">Austin</a> (1648), ch. 24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My hope's, if this assurance hath deceiv'd,<br>
(That I Man's Soul Immortal have believ'd)<br>
And if I erre, no Pow'r shall dispossess<br>
My thoughts of that expected happiness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B21163.0001.001/1:4.5?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=My%20hope%27s%2C%20if,that%20expected%20happiness.">Denham</a> (1669), Part 4]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I should be mistaken in this Belief, that our Souls are immortal, I am however pleased and happy in my Mistake; nor while I live, shall it ever be in the Power of Man, to beat me out of an Opinion, that yields me so solid a Comfort, and so durable a Satisfaction.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=evans;c=evans;idno=N04335.0001.001;node=N04335.0001.001:5.23;seq=1;rgn=div2;view=text#:~:text=But%20if%20I%20should%20be%20mistaken%20in%20this%20Belief%2C%20that%20our%20Souls%20are%20immortal%2C%20I%20am%20however%20pleased%20and%20happy%20in%20my%20Mistake%3B%20nor%20while%20I%20live%2C%20shall%20it%20ever%20be%20in%20the%20Power%20of%20Man%2C%20to%20beat%20me%20out%20of%20an%20Opinion%2C%20that%20yields%20me%20so%20solid%20a%20Comfort%2C%20and%20so%20durable%20a%20Satis%7Cfaction.">Logan</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And after all should this my firm persuasion of the soul's immortality prove to be a mere delusion, it is at least a pleasing delusion, and I will cherish it to my latest breath.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/oldageandfriends00ciceuoft/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22firm+persuasion%22">Melmoth</a> (1773)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I err in this, that I believe the soules of men to be immortal, I err willingly, nor do I wish this error to be wrested from me while I live.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_Literally_Translated_E/OKb5knapj7IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22err%20in%20this%22">Cornish Bros.</a> ed. (1847)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if I am wrong in this, that I believe the souls of men to be immortal, I willingly delude myself : nor do I desire that this mistake, in which I take pleasure, should be wrested from me as long as I live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosthreeboo00cice/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22wrong+in+this%22">Edmonds</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I err in believing that the souls of men are immortal, I am glad thus to err, nor am I willing that this error in which I delight shall be wrested from me so long as I live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cicero_de_Senectute/Text#:~:text=But%20if%20I%20err%20in%20believing%20that%20the%20souls%20of%20men%20are%20immortal%2C%20I%20am%20glad%20thus%20to%20err%2C%20nor%20am%20I%20willing%20that%20this%20error%20in%20which%20I%20delight%20shall%20be%20wrested%20from%20me%20so%20long%20as%20I%20live">Peabody</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I am wrong in thinking the human soul immortal, I am glad to be wrong; nor will I allow the mistake which gives me so much pleasure to be wrested from me as long as I live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2808/pg2808-images.html#:~:text=But%20if%20I%20am%20wrong%20in%20thinking%20the%20human%20soul%20immortal%2C%20I%20am%20glad%20to%20be%20wrong%3B%20nor%20will%20I%20allow%20the%20mistake%20which%20gives%20me%20so%20much%20pleasure%20to%20be%20wrested%20from%20me%20as%20long%20as%20I%20live.">Shuckburgh</a> (1895)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if in thinking souls immortal thus,<br>
I am in error, I confess to you,<br>
It is an error that I glory in,<br>
And being so pleasant, I would not desire<br>
To lose it while I live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft70v9281n&view=2up&seq=72&q1=%22thinking+souls+immortal%22">Allison</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if I err in my belief that the souls of men are immortal, I gladly err, nor do I wish this error which gives me pleasure to be wrested from me while I live.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0039%3Asection%3D85#:~:text=And%20if%20I%20err%20in%20my%20belief%20that%20the%20souls%20of%20men%20are%20immortal%2C%20I%20gladly%20err%2C%20nor%20do%20I%20wish%20this%20error%20which%20gives%20me%20pleasure%20to%20be%20wrested%20from%20me%20while%20I%20live.">Falconer</a> (1923)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even if I am mistaken in my belief that the soul is immortal, I make the mistake gladly, for the belief makes me happy, and is one which as long as I live I want to retain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Works_Cicero_Marcus_Tullius/7g1OF04FoW8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22even%20if%20I%20am%22">Grant</a> (1960, 1971 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if I am deluded in believing that the soul of man is immortal, then I am glad to be deluded, and I hope no one, as long as I live, will ever wrench this delusion from me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/onoldageonfriend0000unse/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22i+am+deluded%22">Copley</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if I am mistaken in this belief of mine that the souls of men are immortal, then I am happy to be mistaken; but as long as I am still alive, I have no wish to be disabused of my mistake.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/redflareciceroso0000cice/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22mistaken+in+this+belief%22">Cobbold</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I may be wrong in my belief in the immorality of the spirit: there are philosophers who think I am. I like my faith and I don't want to lose it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_To_Be_Old/OREcBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22I%20maybe%20wrong%22">Gerberding</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if it is an error of mine to imply<br>
That man is endowed with immortal soul,<br>
I err with pleasure and promptly console<br>
Myself as long as I am alive and spry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.crtpesaro.it/Materiali/Latino/De%20Senectute.php#:~:text=And%20if%20it%20is%20an%20error%20of%20mine%20to%20imply%0AThat%20man%20is%20endowed%20with%20a%20mortal%20soul%2C%0AI%20err%20with%20pleasure%20and%20promptly%20console%0AMyself%20as%20long%20as%20I%20am%20alive%20and%20spry.">Bozzi</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And if I’m wrong in my belief that souls are immortal, then gladly do I err, for this belief, which I hope to maintain as long as I live, makes me happy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_to_Grow_Old/AW2YDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22makes%20me%20happy%22">Freeman</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[In short, I consider this world as a place which nature never designed for my permanent abode, and I look upon my departure out of it, not as being driven away from my habitation, but as leaving my inn. [Et ex vita ita discedo tamquam ex hospitio, non tamquam e domo; commorandi enim natura devorsorium [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, I consider this world as a place which nature never designed for my permanent abode, and I look upon my departure out of it, not as being driven away from my habitation, but as leaving my inn.</p>
<p><em>[Et ex vita ita discedo tamquam ex hospitio, non tamquam e domo; commorandi enim natura devorsorium nobis, non habitandi dedit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age]</i>, ch. 23 / sec. 84 (23.84) (44 BC) [tr. Melmoth (1773)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/oldageandfriends00ciceuoft/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22in+short+i%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0038%3Asection%3D84#:~:text=et%20ex%20vita%20ita%20discedo%20tamquam%20ex%20hospitio%2C%20non%20tamquam%20e%20domo%3B%20commorandi%20enim%20natura%20devorsorium%20nobis%2C%20non%20habitandi%20dedit.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I departe me from this presente life as a walkyng weyfaryng man or as a voyagieng pilgryme departith from some lodgyng place or an hostellrye for to come to his owne dwellyng house. But I departe me not from this life as the lorde departeth from his owne house for this passable life is nowght ellys but as a lodgyng place or an hostellrye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A69111.0001.001/1:3.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=I%20departe%20me,an%20hos%E2%88%A3tellrye">Worcester/Worcester/Scrope</a> (1481)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I depart out of this life as out of an inn, and not out of a dwellinghouse. For nature hath given to us a lodging to remain and sojourn in for a time, and not to dwell in continually. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosbooksfri00harrgoog/page/n186/mode/2up?q=%22and+i+depart%22">Newton</a> (1569)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I depart out of this life, as from an Inne, not as from a continuall habitation; for nature hath given us a place to rest in, not to dwell in. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A33149.0001.001/1:4.24?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=and%20I%20depart%20out%20of%20this%20life%2C%20as%20from%20an%20Inne%2C%20not%20as%20from%20a%20continuall%20ha%E2%88%A3bitation%3B%20for%20nature%20hath%20given%20us%20a%20place%20to%20rest%20in%2C%20not%20to%20dwell%20in.">Austin</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hence from an Inne, not from my home, I pass,<br>
Since Nature meant us here no dwelling place.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B21163.0001.001/1:4.5?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Hence%20from%20an,no%20dwelling%20place.">Denham</a> (1669)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have not frustrated the End of Nature, and am disposed to leave this life, <i>with as much Indifference, as an Inn upon the Road;</i> for Nature here intends us a <i>Lodging</i> only, not a <i>Fixed Home or Settled Place of Habitation.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_a_Dialogue/-DVcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22end%20of%20nature%22">Hemming</a> (1716)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And now I go from this Life as from an Inn; for Nature hath given it us as a Place to rest in, but not for a continual Habitation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cato_Major_Or_Marcus_Tullius_Cicero_s_Tr/dehhAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22from%20this%20life%22">J. D.</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And when the Close comes, I shall quit Life as I would an Inn, and not as a real Home. For Nature appears to me to have ordain'd this Station here for us, as a Place of Sojournment, a transitory Abode only, and not as a fixt Settlement or permanent Habitation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=evans;c=evans;idno=N04335.0001.001;node=N04335.0001.001:5.23;seq=1;rgn=div2;view=text#:~:text=and%20when%20the%20Close%20comes%2C%20I%20shall%20quit%20Life%20as%20I%20would%20an%20Inn%2C%20and%20not%20as%20a%20real%20Home.%20For%20Nature%20appears%20to%20me%20to%20have%20ordain%27d%20this%20Station%20here%20for%20us%2C%20as%20a%20Place%20of%20So%7Cjournment%2C%20a%20transitory%20Abode%20only%2C%20and%20not%20as%20a%20sixt%20Settlement%20or%20permanent%20Ha%7Cbitation.">Logan</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I depart out of life just as out of an inn, and not as out of my home. For Nature has given us an hotel to sojourn in, not a place to dwell in.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_Literally_Translated_E/OKb5knapj7IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22depart%20out%22">Cornish Bros.</a> ed. (1847)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And from this life I depart as from a temporary lodging, not as from a home. For nature has assigned it to us as an inn to sojourn in, not a place of habitation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosthreeboo00cice/page/260/mode/2up?q=%22from+this+life%22">Edmonds</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet I depart from life, as from an inn, not as from a home; for nature has given us here a lodging for a sojourn, not a place of habitation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cicero_de_Senectute/Text#:~:text=Yet%20I%20depart%20from%20life%2C%20as%20from%20an%20inn%2C%20not%20as%20from%20a%20home%3B%20for%20nature%20has%20given%20us%20here%20a%20lodging%20for%20a%20sojourn%2C%20not%20a%20place%20of%20habitation.">Peabody</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But I quit life as I would an inn, not as I would a home. For nature has given us a place of entertainment, not of residence.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2808/pg2808-images.html#link2H_4_0003:~:text=But%20I%20quit%20life%20as%20I%20would%20an%20inn%2C%20not%20as%20I%20would%20a%20home.%20For%20nature%20has%20given%20us%20a%20place%20of%20entertainment%2C%20not%20of%20residence.">Shuckburgh</a> (1895)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I now depart<br>
As from a lodging; house, and not a home. <br>
Nature has made this world a place in which <br>
One stays a little, does not dwell for aye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft70v9281n&view=2up&seq=70&q1=%22i+now+depart%22">Allison</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I quit life as if it were an inn, not a home. For Nature has given us an hostelry in which to sojourn, not to abide.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0039%3Asection%3D84#:~:text=and%20I%20quit%20life%20as%20if%20it%20were%20an%20inn%2C%20not%20a%20home.%20For%20Nature%20has%20given%20us%20an%20hostelry%20in%20which%20to%20sojourn%2C%20not%20to%20abide.">Falconer</a> (1923)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But what nature gives us is a place to dwell in temporarily, not one to make our own. When I leave life, therefore, I shall feel as if I am leaving a hostel rather than a home.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Works_Cicero_Marcus_Tullius/7g1OF04FoW8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dwell%20in%20temporarily%22">Grant</a> (1960, 1971 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I am departing from life as from a temporary lodging, not as from a home. Yes, nature has given a spot where we may turn aside for a time, not a place of permanent residence.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/onoldageonfriend0000unse/page/40/mode/2up?q=%22departing+from+life%22">Copley</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But I do feel as though I am leaving an inn, not my home. Nature has given us a place to stay for a while, but not for ever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/redflareciceroso0000cice/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22leaving+an+inn%22">Cobbold</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I leave this life as I would leave<br>
An inn and not a home. Nature<br>
Gave us in fact a temporary hotel,<br>
Not a permanent place in which to dwell.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.crtpesaro.it/Materiali/Latino/De%20Senectute.php#:~:text=I%20leave%20this%20life%20as%20I%20would%20leave%0AAn%20inn%20and%20not%20a%20home.%20Nature%0AGave%20us%20in%20fact%20a%20temporary%20hotel%2C%0ANot%20a%20permanent%20place%20in%20which%20to%20dwell.">Bozzi</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I depart from life as if from an inn, not a house. Nature gives us our bodies to abide in only for a time as guests, not to make our home.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_to_Grow_Old/AW2YDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22depart%20from%20life%22">Freeman</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I am leaving life as if from an inn, not a home. For nature has given us a way-station for a brief delay, not to permanently reside.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2018/03/25/leaving-life-as-if-from-an-inn-not-a-home/#:~:text=And%20I%20am%20leaving%20life%20as%20if%20from%20an%20inn%2C%20not%20a%20home.%20For%20nature%20has%20given%20us%20a%20way%2Dstation%20for%20a%20brief%20delay%2C%20not%20to%20permanently%20reside.">@sentantiq</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Thomas a Kempis -- The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi], Book 3, ch. 35, v.  3 (3.35.2) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Croft/Bolton (1940)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you look for rest in this life, how will you attain to everlasting rest? Dispose yourself, then, not for much rest but for great patience. &#160; [Si quæris in hac vita requiem: quomodo tunc pervenies ad æternam requiem? Non ponas te ad multam requiem, sed a magnam patientiam.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: If thou [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look for rest in this life, how will you attain to everlasting rest? Dispose yourself, then, not for much rest but for great patience.<br />
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<em>[Si quæris in hac vita requiem: quomodo tunc pervenies ad æternam requiem? Non ponas te ad multam requiem, sed a magnam patientiam.]</em></p>
<br><b>Thomas à Kempis</b> (c. 1380-1471) German-Dutch priest, author<br><i>The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi]</i>, Book 3, ch. 35, v.  3 (3.35.2) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Croft/Bolton (1940)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imb3c31-40.html#RTFToC226:~:text=If%20you%20look%20for%20rest%20in%20this%20life%2C%20how%20will%20you%20attain%20to%20everlasting%20rest%3F%20Dispose%20yourself%2C%20then%2C%20not%20for%20much%20rest%20but%20for%20great%20patience." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/kempis/kempis3.shtml#:~:text=Si%20qu%C3%A6ris%20in%20hac%20vita%20requiem%3A%20quomodo%20tunc%20pervenies%20ad%20%C3%A6ternam%20requiem%3F%20Non%20ponas%20te%20ad%20multam%20requiem%2C%20sed%20a%20magnam%20patientiam.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how then shalt thou come to the rest everlasting? Set not thyself to have rest here, but to have patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.219519/page/n227/mode/2up?q=%22If+thou+seek+rest%22">Whitford/Raynal</a> (1530/1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you seek rest in this life, how will you, then, come to everlasting rest? Do not determine to have rest here, but to have patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchri200thom/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22seek+rest%22">Whitford/Gardiner</a> (1530/1955)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this world, how wilt thou then attain to everlasting rest? Give not thy selfe to much ease, but to much patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A13699.0001.001/1:6.35?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=If%20thou%20seekest,to%20much%20patience.">Page</a> (1639), 3.35.6]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>If then these are the Conditions of thy Obedience and Reward, think how absurd it, for them  who indulge their Ease here, to expect Peace and Happiness hereafter. In one of the two States Enduring must be thy Lot; and therefore tough Patience, and not soft Repose, is what thou should'st labour for at present.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/christianspatte00thomgoog/page/n235/mode/2up?q=%22If+then+thefe+ar%5E+the+Conditions%22">Stanhope</a> (1696; 1706 ed.), 3.40]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this life, how wilt thou attain to the everlasting rest of the life to come?  Thou must prepare thy heart for the exercise of many and great troubles, not for the enjoyment of continual rest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationchrist01kempgoog/page/n200/mode/2up?q=%22If+thou+feekeft+reft%22">Payne</a> (1803), 3.27.8]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how wilt thou then attain to the everlasting Rest? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for great patience.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_0/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22thou+seek+rest%22">Parker</a> (1841)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It thou seekest rest in this life, how wilt thou attain to the everlasting rest of the life to come? Thou must not merely rest, but prepare thy heart for far greater patience and resignation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Of_the_Imitation_of_Jesus_Christ/qBZwsQJdQ2QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22attain%20to%20the%20everlasting%20reft%22">Dibdin</a> (1851), 3.31.2]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this life, how then wilt thou come to the rest everlasting? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for much patience.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_2/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22if+thou+seekest+rest%22">Bagster</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how then wilt thou attain unto the rest which is eternal? Set not thyself to attain much rest, but much patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1653/pg1653-images.html#chap72:~:text=If%20thou%20seek%20rest%20in%20this%20life%2C%20how%20then%20wilt%20thou%20attain%20unto%20the%20rest%20which%20is%20eternal%3F%20Set%20not%20thyself%20to%20attain%20much%20rest%2C%20but%20much%20patience.">Benham</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how wilt thou then attain to the everlasting rest? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for great patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_the_Imitation_of_Christ/Book_III/Chapter_XXXV#:~:text=If%20thou%20seek,for%20great%20patience.">Anon.</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you search after rest in this life, how then will you come through to an everlasting rest? Do not set out for much in the way of rest, but for suffering that costs. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_r2o4/page/104/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+search+after+rest%22">Daplyn</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you look for rest in this life, how can you attain eternal rest? Dispose yourself not to rest, but to patient endurance.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris00sher/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+look+for+rest%22">Sherley-Price</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you try to find rest in this world, how will you ever reach that rest which is life everlasting? It is not long hours of rest you must be prepared for here, but for long hours of patient endurance.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris00knox/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+try+to+find+rest%22">Knox-Oakley</a> (1959)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you are looking for rest in this life, how will you ever reach the everlasting rest at the end? It is not rest you must expect, but suffering.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000thom_o4e9/page/166/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+are+looking+for%22">Knott</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You may seek rest in this life. How then will you gain rest in everlasting life? Do not expect great rest. Expect much suffering instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_e5i0/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22you+may+seek+rest%22">Rooney</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you seek rest in this life, how do you expect to come to eternal rest? Do not make frequent rest your goal but great patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Imitation_of_Christ/JI7AA0GAbUgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22seek%20rest%20in%20this%20life%22">Creasy</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto  4, l.  25ff (4.25-42) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_62776" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-62776" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large.jpg"><img decoding="async" src="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large-300x214.jpg" alt="Gustave Dore - Inferno 4.42 - The virtuous pagans (1890)" width="300" height="214" class="size-medium wp-image-62776" srcset="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large-300x214.jpg 300w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large-1024x730.jpg 1024w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large-768x547.jpg 768w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large-1536x1095.jpg 1536w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Gustave-Dore-Inferno-04-42-virtuous-pagans-1890-large.jpg 1800w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-62776" class="wp-caption-text">Gustave Dore &#8211; Inferno 4.42 &#8211; The virtuous pagans (1890)</figcaption></figure>
<p>Down there, to judge only by what I heard,<br />
<span class="tab">there were no wails but just the sounds of sighs<br />
<span class="tab">rising and trembling through the timeless air,<br />
The sounds of sighs of untormented grief<br />
<span class="tab">burdening these groups, diverse and teeming,<br />
<span class="tab">made of men and women and of infants.<br />
Then the good master said, &#8220;You do not ask<br />
<span class="tab">what sort of souls are these you see around you.<br />
<span class="tab">Now you should know before we go on farther,<br />
they have not sinned. But their great worth alone<br />
<span class="tab">was not enough, for they did not know Baptism<br />
<span class="tab">which is the gateway to the faith you follow,<br />
and if they came before the birth of Christ<br />
<span class="tab">They did not worship God the way one should;<br />
<span class="tab">I myself am a member of this group.<br />
For this defect, and for no other guilt,<br />
<span class="tab">we here are lost. In this alone we suffer:<br />
<span class="tab">cut off from hope, we live on in desire.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Quivi, secondo che per ascoltare,<br />
<span class="tab">non avea pianto mai che di sospiri<br />
<span class="tab">che l’aura etterna facevan tremare;<br />
ciò avvenia di duol sanza martìri,<br />
<span class="tab">ch’avean le turbe, ch’eran molte e grandi,<br />
<span class="tab">d’infanti e di femmine e di viri.<br />
Lo buon maestro a me: &#8220;Tu non dimandi<br />
<span class="tab">che spiriti son questi che tu vedi?<br />
<span class="tab">Or vo’ che sappi, innanzi che più andi,<br />
ch’ei non peccaro; e s’elli hanno mercedi,<br />
<span class="tab">non basta, perché non ebber battesmo,<br />
<span class="tab">ch’è porta de la fede che tu credi;<br />
e s’e’ furon dinanzi al cristianesmo,<br />
<span class="tab">non adorar debitamente a Dio:<br />
<span class="tab">e di questi cotai son io medesmo.<br />
Per tai difetti, non per altro rio,<br />
<span class="tab">semo perduti, e sol di tanto offesi<br />
<span class="tab">che sanza speme vivemo in disio&#8221;.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  4, l.  25ff (4.25-42) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22sounds+of+sighs%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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In the First Circle of Hell, Dante encounters the "virtuous pagans," without sin but who cannot go to heaven because they were not baptized (such as children), or because they were born before Christ and therefore could not be saved by faith. They are not physically punished, but languish in an otherwise-pleasant Limbo, longing to be united with God. (Dante did not invent Limbo, but popularized it.)<br><br>

(Source (Italian)). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Loud Lamentations were not heard from thence,<br>
But heavy Sighs which trembled through the air:<br>
From th' anguish these of Mind, not Body, came<br>
Of many Infants, Women, and of Men.<br>
You do not ask me, my kind Master said,<br>
What are these Spirits in this place you see;<br>
This you should know before we farther pass.<br>
These have not sinn'd; and 'though they had reward<br>
Deserved for their meritorious acts,<br>
'Twould not avail, since they were ne'er baptiz'd;<br>
For this in your Belief's the Gate of Faith.<br>
They who have lived before Christ appear'd<br>
Have not with proper Prayers ador'd their God.<br>
And I myself, alas! am one of those.<br>
For these defects, and not for any crime,<br>
We're lost; and, without other punishment,<br>
We live desiring, yet depriv'd of hope.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20for%20any%20crime%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 35ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now thro' the void and viewless shadows drear, <br>
Short sighs, thick-coming, led the list'ning ear,<br>
<span class="tab">Trembling in murmurs low along the gale: <br>
No pang is here, no tort'ring hour is known, <br>
Their irrecoverable loss alone<br>
<span class="tab">Matrons, and fires, and tender babes bewail.<br>
"And can the mournful train that here abide <br>
Unnotic'd pass thee by?" the Poet cry'd,<br>
<span class="tab">"These were of the race renown'd of ancient time:<br>
Unknown a Saviour, unador'd a God,<br>
Their blind presumptuous course in reason's road<br>
<span class="tab">They still pursu'd, unconscious of a crime.<br>
No bleeding ransom of their sins they knew<br>
Nor from the fount regeneration drew<br>
<span class="tab">The sacred symbol of eternal joy!<br>
In ceaseless languors now forlorn they dwell, <br>
Not heirs of Heav'n, nor denizens of Hell,<br>
<span class="tab">And of their sad society am I!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/120/mode/2up?q=%22In+ceafelefs+languors%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 5-7] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, as mine ear could note, no plaint was heard<br>
<span class="tab">Except of sighs, that made th’ eternal air<br>
<span class="tab">Tremble, not caus’d by tortures, but from grief<br>
Felt by those multitudes, many and vast,<br>
<span class="tab">Of men, women, and infants. Then to me<br>
<span class="tab">The gentle guide: “Inquir’st thou not what spirits<br>
Are these, which thou beholdest? Ere thou pass<br>
<span class="tab">Farther, I would thou know, that these of sin<br>
<span class="tab">Were blameless; and if aught they merited,<br>
It profits not, since baptism was not theirs,<br>
<span class="tab">The portal to thy faith. If they before<br>
<span class="tab">The Gospel liv’d, they serv’d not God aright;<br>
And among such am I. For these defects,<br>
<span class="tab">And for no other evil, we are lost;<br>
<span class="tab">Only so far afflicted, that we live<br>
Desiring without hope.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.4:~:text=For%20these%20defects,Desiring%20without%20hope.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here never aught of louder plaint or moan <br>
<span class="tab">Disturbed the listener's hearing; but the air <br>
<span class="tab">Trembled eternally with sighs alone.<br>
The cause, a grief where torment hath no share, <br>
<span class="tab">Endured of crowded hostings not a few, <br>
<span class="tab">Men, women, infants, all assembled there.<br>
And thus the good preceptor -- "Canst thou view <br>
<span class="tab">So vast a throng, nor ask of whom the spirits?<br>
<span class="tab">I will thou learn, ere we our path pursue.<br>
These were not sinners; yet, whatever their merits. <br>
<span class="tab">Suffice not them, wanting baptismal rite. <br>
<span class="tab">That each partaker of thy faith inherits.<br>
And if they rose before the Christian light. <br>
<span class="tab">Duly they honoured not their Maker's name; <br>
<span class="tab">But what these are, am I: our fates unite.<br>
For such default, and not for deeper blame, <br>
<span class="tab">Heaven have we lost; yet this our only smart. <br>
<span class="tab">Our hope is not, our longing still the same."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n32/mode/2up?q=%22For+such+default%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Here was no plaint, that could be heard, except of sighs, which caused the eternal air to tremble;<br>
<span class="tab">And this arose from the sadness, without torment, of the crowds that were many and great, both of children, and women and men.<br>
<span class="tab">The good Master said to me: "Thou askest not what spirits are these thou seest? I wish thee to know, before thou goest further,<br>
<span class="tab">that they sinned not; and though they have merit, it suffices not: for they had not Baptism, which is the portal of the faith that thou believest;<br>
<span class="tab">and seeing they were before Christianity, they worshipped not God aright; and of these am I myself. <br>
<span class="tab">For such defects, and for no other fault, are we lost; and only in so far afflicted, that without hope we live in desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22for%20such%20defects%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here was no sound, to any listener's ear,<br>
<span class="tab">Of loud complaint, but frequent sighs of care,<br>
<span class="tab">Which made to tremble the eternal air.<br>
It happened thus, from grief of torments void,<br>
<span class="tab">Possessing crowds beyond our sight and ken<br>
<span class="tab">Of infants, and of women, and of men.<br>
The good master said, "You do not ask me<br>
<span class="tab">What are these spirits which you now descry --<br>
<span class="tab">Wouldst thou discover, ere we yet draw nigh?<br>
These have not sinn'd, though merit they should have --<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis not enough, for baptism they have none,<br>
<span class="tab">A portion of the faith you also own:<br>
They lived ere Christianity began;<br>
<span class="tab">The God of heaven adored not as they ought.<br>
<span class="tab">And of these here, I'm also in the fault<br>
For these defects; for other evil none<br>
<span class="tab">Are lost, -- afflicted only thus so far:<br>
<span class="tab">Live in desire, but want hope's brightening star."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22afflicted+only%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There as I listen'd I could hear no sound<br>
<span class="tab">Of plaint or moan, but rather that of sighs<br>
<span class="tab">Which tremulous did stir th' eternal air;<br>
This came not from the martyrdom of pain<br>
<span class="tab">But from the dole of those, many and great,<br>
<span class="tab">Of children, and of women, and of men.<br>
My kindly master said -- "Thou askest not<br>
<span class="tab">Who be these spirits which thou seest now?<br>
<span class="tab">Yet here we further go, be to thee known<br>
They sinned not; yet no merit claim'd by them<br>
<span class="tab">Availeth aught, because they never knew<br>
<span class="tab">The Grace Baptismal, portal of they creed:<br>
And if they liv'd before the day of Grace<br>
<span class="tab">They could not in right spirit worship God:<br>
<span class="tab">And of that number I myself am one.<br>
For this default and for no other guilt<br>
<span class="tab">We are lost souls; afflicted only thus,<br>
<span class="tab">That ever hopeless we must still desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22for%20this%20default%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There, in so far as I had power to hear, ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Were lamentations none, but only sighs,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That tremulous made the everlasting air.<br>
And this arose from sorrow without torment,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Which the crowds had, that many were and great,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of infants and of women and of men. ⁠<br>
To me the Master good: "Thou dost not ask<br>
<span class="tab">⁠What spirits these, which thou beholdest, are?<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Now will I have thee know, ere thou go farther,<br>
That they sinned not; and if they merit had,<br>
<span class="tab">'T is not enough, because they had not baptism, ⁠<br>
⁠<span class="tab">⁠Which is the portal of the Faith thou holdest;<br>
And if they were before Christianity,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠⁠In the right manner they adored not God;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠⁠And among such as these am I myself.<br>
For such defects, and not for other guilt,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠⁠Lost are we, and are only so far punished,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠⁠That without hope we live on in desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_4#:~:text=For%20such%20defects,on%20in%20desire.">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, so far as listening went, lamentation was not, save of sighs which made the everlasting mist tremble. And this befel of woe without torments which the crowds had, that were many and great, both of infants and of women and of men. The good Master to me: 'Thou demandest not what spirits these are whom thou seest ? Now will I that thou know ere thou go further, that they did not sin; and if they have deserts, it suffices not; because they had not baptism, which is a part of the faith which thou believest. And if they were before Christianity, they adored not God duly; and of this sort am I myself. For such defects, not for other crime, we are lost; and we are harmed only in so far as we live without hope in longing.'<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924060237603/page/n59/mode/2up?q=%22listening+went%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, in as far as hearing is aware,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Was no loud weeping, but a sound of sighs.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Which ever trembled in the eternal air, <br>
And these from sorrow without torments rise,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Sorrow that holds the crowds both many and great,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Men, women, children, of all age and size.<br>
Turned my good master to me: "Dost thou wait<br>
<span class="tab">⁠To ask what souls are these thou seest here?<br>
<span class="tab">⁠I will that thou shouldst know at once their state. <br>
These have not sinned, and if their acts were fair,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠'Twas not sufficient, since they baptism lacked, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠The gateway of the Faith which thou dost share.<br>
And if they lived ere Christ's law was a fact.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠They did not in fit fashion God adore;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And I myself amongst these last am wreckt.<br>
For such deficiencies, and nothing more,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Our penalty is fixed, the lost among,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠To yearn for ever on this hopeless shore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22For+such+deficiencies%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, so far as could be heard, there was no plaint but that of sighs which made the eternal air to tremble: this came of the woe without torments felt by the crowds, which were many and great, of infants and of women and of men. The good Master to me, “Thou dost not ask what spirits are these that thou seest. Now I would have thee know, before thou goest farther, that they sinned not; and if they have merits it sufficeth not, because they had not baptism, which is part of the faith that thou believest; and if they were before Christianity, they did not duly worship God: and of such as these am I myself.  Through such defects, and not through other guilt, are we lost, and only so far harmed that without hope we live in desire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.IV:~:text=Here%2C%20so%20far,live%20in%20desire.%E2%80%9D">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, so far as I could tell by listening, there was no wailing, but sighs only, making the air to tremble without ceasing; and this arose from the misery, albeit uncaused by torture, which the crowds felt, and they were many and great; babes and women and men. My gentle Master said to me: "Thou dost not ask what shades are these thou seest. I now would have thee know, or ever thou goest farther, that they have not sinned; and though they have good works to their account, it sufficeth not, for they knew not baptism, which is the gateway of the faith the which thou dost believe. And as they were before Christ's coming, they failed to worship God aright ; and of their number am I myself. For shortcomings such as these, and for no other fault, are we lost: and this our only punishment, that without hope we live in yearning.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n32/mode/2up?q=%22shortcomings+such+as+these%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Therein, so far as listening was of service,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠There was no lamentation, save of sighing,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That made the eternal weight of air to quiver.<br>
This came to pass from sorrow without torments.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That the crowds had, which were both great and many.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of little children, and of men, and women. <br>
To me the master kind: "Dost thou not ask me<br>
<span class="tab">⁠What spirits these are here, whom thou beholdest?<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Now I would have thee know, ere thou go further, <br>
That they sinned not: and yet that they have merits<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Sufficeth not, because they had not baptism.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Which is a portion of the faith thou holdest: <br>
And, if they were before the Christian advent,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠They did not render unto God due worship.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And I of such as these myself am also.<br>
For such defects, and not for other forfeit,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Are we among the lost, and only troubled<br>
<span class="tab">⁠At this, that without hope we live in longing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n34/mode/2up?q=%22For+such+defects%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, so far as I could tell by listening, was no lamentation more than sighs which kept the air forever trembling; these came from grief without torments that was borne by the crowds, which were vast, of men and women and little children. The good Master said to me: "Does thou not ask what spirits are these thou seest? I would have the know, then, before thou goest farther, that they did not sin; but though they have merits it is not enough, for they had not baptism, which is the gateway of the faith thou holdest; and if they were here before Christianity they did not worship God aright, and of these I am one. For such defects, and not for any guilt, we are lost, and only so far afflicted that without hope we live in desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22for%20such%20defects%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here was no sound that the ear could catch of rue,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Save only of sighs, that still as they complain<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Make the eternal air tremble anew.<br>
And this rose form the sorrow, unracked by pain,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That was in the great multitude below<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of children and of women and of men.<br>
The good Master to me: "Wouldst thou not know<br>
<span class="tab">⁠'What spirits are these thou seest and hearest grieve?<br>
<span class="tab">⁠I'd have thee learn before thou farther go,<br>
These sinned not: but the merit that they achieve<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Helps not, since baptism was not theirs, the gate<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of that faith, which was given thee to believe.<br>
And if ere Christ they came, untimely in date,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠They worshipped not with right experience;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And I myself am numbered in their state.<br>
For such defect, and for no other offence,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠We are lost, and only in so far amerced<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That without hope we languish in suspense."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22here+was+no+sound%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We heard no loud complaint, no crying there,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠No sound of grief except the sound of sighing <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Quivering for ever through the eternal air;<br>
Grief, not for torment, but for loss undying,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠By women, men, and children sighed for so, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Sorrowers thick-thronged, their sorrows multiplying.<br>
Then my good guide: "Thou dost not ask me who <br>
<span class="tab">⁠These spirits are,” said he, “whom thou perceivest? <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Ere going further, I would have thee know<br>
They sinned not; yet their merit lacked its chiefest <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Fulfilment, lacking baptism, which is <br>
<span class="tab">⁠The gateway to the faith which thou believest;<br>
Or, living before Christendom, their knees <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Paid not aright those tributes that belong <br>
<span class="tab">⁠To God; and I myself am one of these.<br>
For such defects alone -- no other wrong --<br>
<span class="tab">⁠We are lost; yet only by this grief offended:<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That, without hope, we ever live, and long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.247916/page/n93/mode/2up?q=%22We+heard+no+loud+complaint%22">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No tortured wailing rose to greet us here <br>
<span class="tab">⁠but sounds of sighing rose from every side, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠sending a tremor through the timeless air,<br>
a grief breathed out of untormented sadness, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠the passive state of those who dwelled apart, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠men, women, children -- a dim and endless congress.<br>
And the Master said to me: "You do not question <br>
<span class="tab">⁠what souls these are that suffer here before you? <br>
<span class="tab">⁠I wish you to know before you travel on<br>
that these were sinless. And still their merits fail, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠for they lacked Baptism's grace, which is the door <br>
<span class="tab">⁠of the true faith you were born to. Their birth fell<br>
before the age of the Christian mysteries, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠and so they did not worship God's Trinity <br>
<span class="tab">⁠in fullest duty. I am one of these.<br>
For such defects are we lost, though spared the fire <br>
<span class="tab">⁠and suffering Hell in one affliction only: <br>
<span class="tab">⁠that without hope we live on in desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22no+tortured+wailing%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here there was no plaint, that could be heard, except of sighs, which caused the eternal air to tremble; and this arose from the sadness, without torments, of the crowds that were many and great, both of children and of women and men. The good master said to me, “Do you not ask what spirits are these that you see ? Now, before you go farther, I will have you know that they did not sin; but if they have merit, that does not suffice, for they did not have baptism, which is the portal of the faith you hold; and if they were before Christianity, they did not worship God aright, and I myself am one of these. Because of these shortcomings, and for no other fault, we are lost, and only so far afflicted that without hope we live in longing.”<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n47/mode/2up?q=%22ask+what+spirits%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, for as much as hearing could discover,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠there was no outcry louder than the sighs <br>
<span class="tab">⁠that caused the everlasting air to tremble.<br>
The sighs arose from sorrow without torments,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠out of the crowds -- the many multitudes --<br>
<span class="tab">⁠of infants and of women and of men.<br>
The kindly master said: “Do you not ask<br>
<span class="tab">⁠who are these spirits whom you see before you? <br>
<span class="tab">⁠I'd have you know, before you go ahead,<br>
they did not sin; and yet, though they have merits, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠that’s not enough, because they lacked baptism, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠the portal of the faith that you embrace.<br>
And if they lived before Christianity, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠they did not worship God in fitting ways; <br>
<span class="tab">⁠and of such spirits I myself am one.<br>
For these defects, and for no other evil, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠we now are lost and punished just with this: <br>
<span class="tab">⁠we have no hope and yet we live in longing.”<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22much+as+hearing%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There, in so far as listening could tell me, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠The only lamentations were the sighs,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Yet they made the eternal air tremble.<br>
They came from the sadness, without any torment, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Felt by the crowds -- there were many of them, and huge --<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of infants and of men and of men.<br>
The master said: "Are you not going to ask<br>
<span class="tab">⁠What sprits these are which you see in this place?<br>
<span class="tab">⁠I think you should know before you go on;<br>
They have committed no sin, and if they have merits,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That is not enough, because they are not baptized,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Which all must be, to enter the faith which is yours.<br>
And if they lived before the Christian era,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠They did not adore God as he should be adored:<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And I am one of those in that position.<br>
For these deficiencies, and no other fault,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠We are lost; there is no other penalty  <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Than to live here without hope, but with desire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22listening+could%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠Here we encountered<br>
No laments that we could hear -- except for sighs<br>
That trembled the timeless air: they emanated<br>
From the shadowy sadnesses, not agonies,<br>
Of multitudes of children and women and men.<br>
He said, "And don't you ask, what spirits are these?<br>
Before you go on, I tell you: they did not sin:<br>
If they have merit, it can't suffice without<br>
Baptism, portal to the faith you maintain.<br>
Some lived before the Christian faith, so that<br>
They did not worship God aright -- and I <br>
Am one of these. Through this, no other fault,<br>
We are lost, afflicted only this one way:<br>
That having no hope, we live in longing."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22here+we+encountered%22">Pinsky</a> (1994), l. 19ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">⁠Here, as far as could be heard, there was no weeping except of sighs which caused the eternal air to tremble;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠these resulted from grief without torture, felt by the crowds, which were many and large, of infants and of women and of men.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠My good master to me: “You do not ask what spirits are these you see? Now I wish you to know, before you walk further,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠that they did not sin; and if they have merits, it is not enough, because they did not receive baptism, which is the gateway to the faith that you believe.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And if they lived before Christianity, they did not adore God as was needful: and of this kind am I myself.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Because of such defects, not for any other wickedness, we are lost, and only so far harmed that without hope we live in desire.”<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22far+as+could+be+heard%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here there was no sound to be heard, except the sighing, that made the eternal air tremble, and it came from the sorrow of the vast and varied crowds of children, of women, and of men, free of torment. The good Master said to me: ‘You do not demand to know who these spirits are that you see. I want you to learn, before you go further, that they had no sin, yet, though they have worth, it is not sufficient, because they were not baptised, and baptism is the gateway to the faith that you believe in. Since they lived before Christianity, they did not worship God correctly, and I myself am one of them. For this defect, and for no other fault, we are lost, and we are only tormented, in that without hope we live in desire.’<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090923:~:text=Here%20there%20was,live%20in%20desire.%E2%80%99">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Here, there was no pandemonium of tortured groans; <br>
<span class="tab">only interminable sighs, which trembled the air <br>
<span class="tab">with a murderous hum; and this arose <br>
from all the sadnesses, albeit painless, <br>
<span class="tab">of the multitude of men and women, <br>
<span class="tab">and children of every size. <br>
Then he to me: "Why don't you ask me who these spirits are?<br>
<span class="tab">Before you go much further  <br>
<span class="tab">on, I'd like it to be understood that they are<br>
innocent of sin; however, <br>
<span class="tab">lacking Baptism, they could not claim <br>
<span class="tab">its saving grace, and thus are doomed forever; <br>
living, as they did, before Christ came<br>
<span class="tab">they did not pay the Lord his due respect;<br>
<span class="tab">and I myself am classed as one of them.<br>
For these faults, not for any other defect, <br>
<span class="tab">are we lost; our only pain <br>
<span class="tab">is hopeless, unfulfilled desire. These are the facts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20pandemonium%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here, there was no pandemonium of tortured groans; only interminable sighs, which trembled the air with a murmurous hum; and this arose from all the sadnesses, albeit painless, of the multitude of men and women, and children of every size. Then he to me: "Why don't you ask me who these spirits are? Before you go much further on, I'd like it to be understood that they are innocent of sin; however, lacking Baptism, they could not claim its saving grace, and thus are doomed forever; living, as they did, before Christ came, they did not pay the Lord his due respect; and I myself am classed as one of them. For these faults, not for any other defect, are we lost; our only pain is hopeless, unfulfilled desire. These are the facts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20pandemonium%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here in the dark (where only hearing told) <br>
<span class="tab">⁠there were no tears, no weeping, only sighs <br>
<span class="tab">⁠that caused a trembling in the eternal air --<br>
sighs drawn from sorrowing, although no pain. <br>
<span class="tab">⁠This weighs on all of them, those multitudes <br>
<span class="tab">⁠of speechless children, women and full-grown men. <br>
'You do not ask,' my teacher in his goodness said, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠'who all these spirits are that you see here? <br>
<span class="tab">⁠Do not, I mean, go further till you know: <br>
these never sinned. And some attained to merit. <br>
<span class="tab">⁠But merit falls far short. None was baptized. <br>
<span class="tab">⁠None passed the gate, in your belief, to faith. <br>
They lived before the Christian age began. <br>
<span class="tab">⁠They paid no reverence, as was due to God. <br>
<span class="tab">⁠And in this number I myself am one. <br>
For such deficiencies, no other crime, <br>
<span class="tab">⁠we all are lost yet only suffer harm <br>
<span class="tab">⁠through living in desire, but hopelessly.'<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernovolume1of0000dant/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22here+in+the+dark%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, as far as I could tell by listening,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠was no lamentation other than the sighs<br>
<span class="tab">⁠that kept the air forever trembling.<br>
These came from grief without torment<br>
<span class="tab">⁠borne by vast crowds<br>
<span class="tab">⁠of men, and women, and little children.<br>
My master began: 'You do not ask about<br>
<span class="tab">⁠the souls you see? I want you to know,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠before you venture farther,<br>
they did not sin. Though they have merit,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠that is not enough, for they were unbaptized,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠denied the gateway to the faith that you profess.<br>
And if they lived before the Christians lived,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠they did not worship God aright.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And among these I am one.<br>
For such defects, and for no other fault,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠we are lost, and afflicted but in this,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠that without hope we live in longing.'<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=4&INP_START=25&INP_LEN=18">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And here there was no weeping; the only signs<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Of sorrow I heard were sighs that caused a gentle<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Trembling, stirring eternal air, yet rising<br>
Not from tortured pain or punishment<br>
<span class="tab">⁠But only because there were so many, men<br>
<span class="tab">⁠And women and children. My Master asked this question<br>
Of me: "Don't you mean to inquire, again,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Who and what are the spirits you see in here? <br>
<span class="tab">⁠I want you to know, before you take another step,<br>
These are not sinners; no matter what they deserve
<span class="tab">⁠It can't be enough, for none have been baptized --
<span class="tab">⁠The gateway to Heaven in your faith's clearest terms.
All those born before the coming of Christ<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Cannot be Christians, worshipping god as He<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Requires, and one of many such men am I.<br>
These imperfections, and nothing more, no crimes,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Bar us from Paradise, not punished, not hurt.<br>
<span class="tab">⁠We have no hope, we live for our great desire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22there%20was%20no%20weeping%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠<span class="tab">⁠To the extent <br>
That I could hear at all, all cries were sighs. <br>
The air without end shook to the lament <br>
Not just of men and women: with surprise <br>
I saw young children too. Why were they sent? <br>
I thought, and once again my Master saw <br>
Into my mind, and said: “You do not ask <br>
Who these ones are, why here, and by what law? <br>
I'll tell you, before we resume our task, <br>
Of pain without a sin. But though they be <br>
Ever so virtuous, no unbaptized <br>
Souls are exempted from this penalty, <br>
And if they lived before His Son, they prized <br>
God insufficiently. And I was one <br>
Of those. For such defects, and for no crime <br>
More grave, we're lost: for something left undone <br>
We're doomed to live without hope for all time.”<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22cries+were+sighs%22">James</a> (2013), l. 31ff]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Watts, Isaac -- Miscellaneous Thoughts in Prose and Verse [Reliquiæ Juveniles], ch. 32 &#8220;Earth, Heaven, and Hell&#8221; (1734)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Death, to a good man is but passing through a dark entry, out of one little dusky room of his Father&#8217;s house, into another that is fair and large, lightsome and glorious, and divinely entertaining. This phrase is often misattributed to Adam Clarke (1762-1832) (e.g., 1853, 1853, 1876, 1880, 1888) or Samuel Clarke (1727-1769) (e.g., [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death, to a good man is but passing through a dark entry, out of one little dusky room of his Father&#8217;s house, into another that is fair and large, lightsome and glorious, and divinely entertaining.</p>
<br><b>Isaac Watts</b> (1674-1748) English theologian and hymnodist<br><i>Miscellaneous Thoughts in Prose and Verse [Reliquiæ Juveniles]</i>, ch. 32 &#8220;Earth, Heaven, and Hell&#8221; (1734) 
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This phrase is often misattributed to Adam Clarke (1762-1832) (e.g., <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_World_s_Laconics/LM0QVhkWKrcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22lightsome+and+glorious%22+clarke&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover">1853</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Little_Pilgrim/-xYAAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22lightsome+and+glorious%22+clarke&pg=RA1-PA95&printsec=frontcover">1853</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Proceedings_of_the_Massachusetts_Council/N0UZAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=adam+clarke+%22passing+through+a+dark+entry%22&pg=RA3-PA104&printsec=frontcover">1876</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Gems_of_Thought/OAZKAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22lightsome+and+glorious%22+clarke&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover">1880</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sermons_for_All_Sects/6mE3AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22lightsome+and+glorious%22+clarke&pg=PA175&printsec=frontcover">1888</a>) or Samuel Clarke (1727-1769) (e.g., <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Laconics/5FIXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22lightsome+and+glorious%22+clarke&pg=RA2-PA127&printsec=frontcover">1827</a>). Finding the primary source confirms Watts' authorship, though it is possible that others used the passage in sermons and writings, and the attribution was misremembered.
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		<title>Aldrich, Thomas Bailey -- &#8220;Identity,&#8221; Poems, Part 2 &#8220;Interludes&#8221; (1885)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhere &#8212; in desolate wind-swept space &#8212; In Twilight-land &#8212; in No-man&#8217;s land &#8212; Two hurrying Shapes met face to face, And bade each other stand. &#8220;And who are you?&#8221; cried one a-gape, Shuddering in the gloaming light. &#8220;I know not,&#8221; said the second Shape, &#8220;I only died last night!&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere &#8212; in desolate wind-swept space &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">In Twilight-land &#8212; in No-man&#8217;s land &#8212;<br />
Two hurrying Shapes met face to face,<br />
<span class="tab">And bade each other stand.<br />
&#8220;And who are you?&#8221; cried one a-gape,<br />
<span class="tab">Shuddering in the gloaming light.<br />
&#8220;I know not,&#8221; said the second Shape,<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;I only died last night!&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Thomas Bailey Aldrich</b> (1836-1907) American writer, poet, critic, editor<br>&#8220;Identity,&#8221; <i>Poems</i>, Part 2 &#8220;Interludes&#8221; (1885) 
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		<title>Aldrich, James -- &#8220;A Death Bed,&#8221; New World (1841-05-29)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But when the sun in all his state,<br />
Illumed the eastern skies,<br />
She passed through glory&#8217;s morning gate,<br />
And walked in Paradise.</p>
<br><b>James Aldrich</b> (1810-1856) American editor, poet<br>&#8220;A Death Bed,&#8221; <i>New World</i> (1841-05-29) 
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		<title>Dickinson, Lowes -- &#8220;Burning at First&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Burning at first no doubt would be worse, But time the impression would soften, While those who are bored with praising the Lord, Would be more bored with praising him often. I&#8217;m unable to find a good source of this, other than a quotation in &#8220;A Fanfare for Prometheus,&#8221; a speech by Learned Hand, American [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burning at first no doubt would be worse,<br />
But time the impression would soften,<br />
While those who are bored with praising the Lord,<br />
Would be more bored with praising him often.</p>
<br><b>G. Lowes Dickinson</b> (1862-1932) British political scientist and philosopher [Goldsworthy "Goldie" Lowes Dickinson]<br>&#8220;Burning at First&#8221; 
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I'm unable to find a good source of this, other than a quotation in "<a href="https://archive.org/details/spiritoflibertyp0000hand/page/296/mode/2up?q=dickinson">A Fanfare for Prometheus</a>," a speech by Learned Hand, American Jewish Committee, New York City (1955-01-29); the speech (with poem) was entered into the <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Congressional_Record/6nQCG7prgjIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Would+be+more+bored+with+praising+him+often%22&pg=SL1-PA789&printsec=frontcover">Congressional Record</a> (1955-02-09) by Sen. Herbert Lehman of New York.						</span>
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		<title>~Proverbs and Sayings -- Arabic saying</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Death is a black camel, which kneels at the gates of all. [الموت جمل أسود يركع أمام جميع البواب] Also identified as a Turkish saying. Popularized in the West in the 19th Century by Algerian religious and military leader Abdelkader ibn Muhieddine (Abdelkader El Djazairi). It received later used in the eponymous Charlie Chan novel [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death is a black camel, which kneels at the gates of all.</p>
<p>[الموت جمل أسود يركع أمام جميع البواب]</p>
<br><b>Proverbs, Sayings, and Adages</b><br>Arabic saying 
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Also identified as a Turkish saying.<br><br>

<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Cyclopaedia_of_Practical_Quotations/MOg4AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22black%20camel%22">Popularized in the West</a> in the 19th Century by Algerian religious and military leader Abdelkader ibn Muhieddine (Abdelkader El Djazairi). <br><br>

It received later used in the eponymous Charlie Chan novel by Earl Derr Biggers, <a href="https://archive.org/details/blackcamel0000bigg/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22every+gate%22"><i>The Black Camel</i>,</a> ch. 4 (1929), where it is identified as an "old Eastern saying":  "Death is the black camel that kneels unbid at every gate."<br><br>

It was also used in the <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021668/quotes/qt0411473">1931 movie</a> of the same name: "Death is a black camel that kneels unbidden at every gate."<br><br>

Further variants:<ul>
	<li>"Death is a black camel that kneels before every man's door."</li>
	<li>"Death is a black camel which kneels at every man's gate."</li>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 748ff (6.748-751) [Anchises] (29-19 BC) [tr. Taylor (1907), st. 99, l. 883ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[These, when a thousand rolling years are o&#8217;er, Called by the God, to Lethe&#8217;s waves repair; There, reft of memory, to yearn once more For mortal bodies and the upper air. [Has omnis, ubi mille rotam volvere per annos, Lethaeum ad fluvium deus evocat agmine magno, Scilicet immemores supera et convexa revisant Bursus et incipiant [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These, when a thousand rolling years are o&#8217;er,<br />
Called by the God, to Lethe&#8217;s waves repair;<br />
There, reft of memory, to yearn once more<br />
For mortal bodies and the upper air.</p>
<p><em>[Has omnis, ubi mille rotam volvere per annos,<br />
Lethaeum ad fluvium deus evocat agmine magno,<br />
Scilicet immemores supera et convexa revisant<br />
Bursus et incipiant in corpora velle reverti.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 748ff (6.748-751) [Anchises] (29-19 BC) [tr. Taylor (1907), st. 99, l. 883ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=These%2C%20when%20a%20thousand%20rolling%20years%20are%20o%27er%2C%0ACalled%20by%20the%20God%2C%20to%20Lethe%27s%20waves%20repair%3B%0AThere%2C%20reft%20of%20memory%2C%20to%20yearn%20once%20more%0AFor%20mortal%20bodies%20and%20the%20upper%20air." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On the reincarnation of most souls, other than those punished in Tartarus or rewarded in Elysium.<br><br> 

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D724#:~:text=At%20last%2C%20when%20the%20millennial%20aeon%20strikes%2C%0AGod%20calls%20them%20forth%20to%20yon%20Lethaean%20stream%2C%0AIn%20numerous%20host%2C%20that%20thence%2C%20oblivious%20all%2C%0AThey%20may%20behold%20once%20more%20the%20vaulted%20sky%2C%0AAnd%20willingly%20to%20shapes%20of%20flesh%20return.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>When thousand yeares have fil'd their period,<br>
All these God calls in troups to Lethe's flood,<br>
To th end that they forgetfull of what's past,<br>
May reascend, and bodies take at last.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=When%20thousand%20yeares,take%20at%20last.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote>




<blockquote>But, when a thousand rolling years are past,<br>
(So long their punishments and penance last,)<br>
Whole droves of minds are, by the driving god,<br>
Compell'd to drink the deep Lethaean flood,<br>
In large forgetful draughts to steep the cares<br>
Of their past labors, and their irksome years,<br>
That, unrememb'ring of its former pain,<br>
The soul may suffer mortal flesh again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=But%2C%20when%20a,mortal%20flesh%20again.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these, after they have rolled away a thousand years, are summoned forth by the god in a great body to the river Lethe; to the intent that, losing memory, they may revisit the vaulted realms above, and again become willing to return into bodies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22all%20these%20after%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these, when centuries ten times told<br>
The wheel of destiny have rolled,<br>
The voice divine from far and wide<br>
Calls up to Lethe's river-side,<br>
That earthward they may pass once more<br>
Remembering not the things before,<br>
And with a blind propension yearn<br>
To fleshly bodies to return.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=All%20these%2C%20when%20centuries%20ten%20times%20told%0AThe%20wheel%20of%20destiny%20have%20rolled%2C%0AThe%20voice%20divine%20from%20far%20and%20wide%0ACalls%20up%20to%20Lethe%27s%20river%2Dside%2C%0AThat%20earthward%20they%20may%20pass%20once%20more%0ARemembering%20not%20the%20things%20before%2C%0AAnd%20with%20a%20blind%20propension%20yearn%0ATo%20fleshly%20bodies%20to%20return.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these, when for a thousand years the wheel<br>
Of fate has turned, the Deity calls forth<br>
To Lethe's stream, a mighty multitude;<br>
That they, forgetful of the past, may see<br>
Once more the vaulted sky, and may begin<br>
To wish return into corporeal frames.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n213/mode/2up?q=%22all+these+when%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 933ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these before thee, when the wheel of a thousand years hath come fully round, a God summons in vast train to the river of Lethe, that so they may regain in forgetfulness the slopes of upper earth, and begin to desire to return again into the body.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_SIXTH:~:text=All%20these%20before%20thee%2C%20when%20the%20wheel%20of%20a%20thousand%20years%20hath%20come%20fully%20round%2C%20a%20God%20summons%20in%20vast%20train%20to%20the%20river%20of%20Lethe%2C%20that%20so%20they%20may%20regain%20in%20forgetfulness%20the%20slopes%20of%20upper%20earth%2C%20and%20begin%20to%20desire%20to%20return%20again%20into%20the%20body.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these who now have turned the wheel for many and many a year<br>
God calleth unto Lethe's flood in mighty company,<br>
That they, remembering nought indeed, the upper air may see<br>
Once more, and long to turn aback to worldly life anew.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=All%20these%20who,worldly%20life%20anew.">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>At last, when the millennial aeon strikes,<br>
God calls them forth to yon Lethaean stream,<br>
In numerous host, that thence, oblivious all,<br>
They may behold once more the vaulted sky,<br>
And willingly to shapes of flesh return.<br>
[tr. Williams (1910), l. 747ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A thousand years pass over<br>
And the god calls the countless host to Lethe<br>
Where memory is annulled, and souls are willing<br>
Once more to enter into mortal bodies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#:~:text=A%20thousand%20years,into%20mortal%20bodies.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these souls, when they have finished their thousand-year cycle,<br>
God sends for, and they come in crowds to the river of Lethe,<br>
So that, you see, with memory washed out, they may revisit<br>
The earth above and begin to wish to be born again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/150/mode/2up?q=%22all+these+souls%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But all the rest, when they have passed time's circle<br>
for a millennium, arfe summoned by<br>
the god to Lethe in a great assembly<br>
that, free of memory, they may return<br>
beneath the curve of the upper world, that they<br>
may once again begin to wish for bodies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22but+all+the+rest%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 988ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">These other souls,<br>
When they have turned Time's wheel a thousand years,<br>
The god calls in a crowd to Lethe stream,<br>
There there unmemoried they may see again<br>
The heavens and wish re-entry into bodies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/186/mode/2up?q=%22these+other+souls%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 1004ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these others whom you see, when they have rolled the wheel for a thousand years, are called out by God to come in great columns to the river of Lethe, so that they may duly go back and see the vault of heaven again remembering nothing, and begin to be willing to return to bodies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/156/mode/2up?q=lethe">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All these others the god calls in a great crowd to the river Lethe,<br>
after they have turned the wheel for a thousand years,<br>
so that, truly forgetting, they can revisit the vault above,<br>
and begin with a desire to return to the flesh.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242939:~:text=All%20these%20others,to%20the%20flesh.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">All these,<br>
When they have rolled the wheel of time<br>
Through a thousand years, will be called by God<br>
In a great assembly to the river Lethe,<br>
So that they return to the vaulted world<br>
With no memory and may begin again<br>
To desire rebirth in a human body.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/y8pgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22all%20these%20when%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All the rest, once they have turned the wheel of time<br>
for a thousand years: God calls them forth to the Lethe,<br>
great armies of souls, their memories blank so that<br>
they may revisit the overarching world once more<br>
and begin to long to return to bodies yet again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22all%20the%20rest%20once%22">Fagles</a> (2006), l. 865ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the rest have cycled through a thousand years, the god calls them in clusters to the river Lethe. These forgetful spirits hope for resurrection into bodies. They start to want to see the sky.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22rest%20have%20cycled%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 735ff (6.735-743) [Anchises] (29-19 BC) [tr. Humphries (1951)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And even when life is over, all the evil Ingrained so long, the adulterated mixture, The plagues and pestilences of the body Remain, persist. So there must be a cleansing, By penalty, by punishment, by fire, By sweep of wind, by water’s absolution, Before the guilt is gone. Each of us suffers His own peculiar [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even when life is over, all the evil<br />
Ingrained so long, the adulterated mixture,<br />
The plagues and pestilences of the body<br />
Remain, persist. So there must be a cleansing,<br />
By penalty, by punishment, by fire,<br />
By sweep of wind, by water’s absolution,<br />
Before the guilt is gone. Each of us suffers<br />
His own peculiar ghost.</p>
<p><em>[Quin et supremo cum lumine vita reliquit,<br />
non tamen omne malum miseris nec funditus omnes<br />
corporeae excedunt pestes, penitusque necesse est<br />
multa diu concreta modis inolescere miris.<br />
Ergo exercentur poenis, veterumque malorum<br />
supplicia expendunt: aliae panduntur inanes<br />
suspensae ad ventos; aliis sub gurgite vasto<br />
infectum eluitur scelus, aut exuritur igni;<br />
quisque suos patimur Manes.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 735ff (6.735-743) [Anchises] (29-19 BC) [tr. Humphries (1951)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=And%20even%20when%20life,His%20own%20peculiar%20ghost." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Souls in the underworld purging their spirits so that they can enter Elysium.  The <em>Manes</em> were minor underworld deities and/or the spirits of deceased ancestors.<br><br> 

The last line (l. 743) is <a href="https://archive.org/details/familiarquotatio0000bart/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22Each+of+us+bears+his+own+Hell%22">popularly paraphrased</a>: "Each of us bears his own Hell."<br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D724#:~:text=Quin%20et%20supremo,suos%20patimur%20Manes">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>But when their latest light and life is set,<br>
Not all woes leave them, nor all tortures quite<br>
Forsake the wretches there; and 'tis but right;<br>
Things strangely grown by custome into crimes,<br>
They must be punish'd for their mispent times,<br>
And tortures feele; some in the winds are hung,<br>
Others to clense their spotted sins are flung<br>
In a vast gulph, or purg'd in fire they are:<br>
We all have our own tortures.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=But%20when%20their,their%20mispent%20times%2C">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Nor can the groveling mind,<br>
In the dark dungeon of the limbs confin'd,<br>
Assert the native skies, or own its heav'nly kind:<br>
Nor death itself can wholly wash their stains;<br>
But long-contracted filth ev'n in the soul remains.<br>
The relics of inveterate vice they wear,<br>
And spots of sin obscene in ev'ry face appear.<br>
For this are various penances enjoin'd;<br>
And some are hung to bleach upon the wind,<br>
Some plung'd in waters, others purg'd in fires,<br>
Till all the dregs are drain'd, and all the rust expires<br>
All have their manes, and those manes bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=nor%20can%20the,those%20manes%20bear">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even when with the last beams of light their life is gone, yet not every ill, nor all corporeal stains, are quite removed from the unhappy beings; and it is absolutely necessary that many imperfections which have long been joined to the soul should be in marvelous ways increased and riveted therin. Therefore are they afflicted with punishments, and pay the penalties of their former ills. Some, hung on high, are spread out to the empty winds; in others the guilt not done away is washed out ina vast watery abyss, or burned away in fire. We each endure his own manes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22each%20endure%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, when at last the life has fled,<br>
And left the body cold and dead,<br>
E'en then there passes not away<br>
The painful heritage of clay;<br>
Full many a long contracted stain<br>
Perforce must linger deep in grain.<br>
So penal sufferings they endure<br>
For ancient crime, to make them pure:<br>
Some hang aloft in open view<br>
For winds to pierce them through and through,<br>
While others purge their guilt deep-dyed<br>
In burning fire or whelming tide.<br>
Each for himself, we all sustain<br>
The durance of our ghostly pain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=Nay%2C%20when%20at,our%20ghostly%20pain">Conington</a> (1866)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor e'en when life's last ray<br>
Has fled, does every ill depart, nor all<br>
Corporeal taints quite leave their unhappy frames, <br>
And needs must be that many a hardened fault<br>
Inheres in wondrous ways. Therefore the pains<br>
Of punishment they undergo, for sins<br>
Of former times. Some in the winds are hung<br>
Suspended and exposed. Others beneath<br>
A waste of waters from their guilt are cleansed,<br>
Or purified by fire. We all endure<br>
Our ghostly retribution.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n213/mode/2up?q=%22therefore+the+pains%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 918ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, and when the last ray of life is gone, not yet, alas! does all their woe, nor do all the plagues of the body wholly leave them free; and needs must be that many a long ingrained evil should take root marvellously deep. Therefore they are schooled in punishment, and pay all the forfeit of a lifelong ill; some are hung stretched to the viewless winds; some have the taint of guilt washed out beneath the dreary deep, or burned away in fire. We suffer, each a several ghost.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_SEVENTH:~:text=Nay%2C%20and%20when,a%20several%20ghost">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yea, e'en when out of upper day their life at last is borne,<br>
Not all the ill of wretched men is utterly outworn,<br>
Not all the bane their bodies bred; and sure in wondrous wise<br>
The plenteous ill they bore so long engrained in them it lies:<br>
So therefore are they worn by woes and pay for ancient wrong:<br>
And some of them are hung aloft the empty winds among;<br>
And some, their stain of wickedness amidst the water's heart<br>
Is washed away; amidst the fire some leave their worser part;<br>
And each his proper death must bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_VII:~:text=Yea%2C%20e%27en%20when,death%20must%20bear">Morris</a> (1900), l. 734ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor can the soul, in darkness and in chains,<br>
Assert the skies, and claim celestial birth.<br>
Nay, after death, the traces it retains<br>
Of fleshly grossness, and corporeal stains,<br>
Since much must needs by long concretion grow<br>
Inherent. Therefore are they racked with pains,<br>
And schooled in all the discipline of woe;<br>
Each pays for ancient sin with punishment below.<br>
Some hang before the viewless winds to bleach;<br>
Some purge in fire or flood the deep decay<br>
And taint of wickedness. We suffer each<br>
Our ghostly penance.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=Nor%20can%20the,Our%20ghostly%20penance">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 97-98, l. 866ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor when to life's last beam they bid farewell<br>
May sufferers cease from pain, nor quite be freed<br>
From all their fleshly plagues; but by fixed law,<br>
The strange, inveterate taint works deeply in.<br>
For this, the chastisement of evils past<br>
Is suffered here, and full requital paid.<br>
Some hang on high, outstretched to viewless winds;<br>
For some their sin's contagion must be purged<br>
In vast ablution of deep-rolling seas,<br>
Or burned away in fire. Each man receives<br>
His ghostly portion in the world of dark.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D724#:~:text=Nor%20when%20to,world%20of%20dark">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, when at their last day life is fled, still not all the evil, alas! not all the plagues of the body quit them utterly; and it must needs be that many a taint, long linked in growth, should in wondrous wise become deeply ingrained. Therefore are they schooled with penalties, and for olden sins pay punishment: some are hung stretched out to the empty winds; from some the stain of guilt is washed away under swirling floods or burned out in fire. Each of us suffers his own spirit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n563/mode/2up?q=%22nay+when+at+their+last%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yes, not even when the last flicker of life has left us,<br>
Does evil, or the ills that flesh is heir to, quite<br>
Relinquish our souls; it must be that many a taint grows deeply,<br>
Mysteriously grained in their being from long contact with the body.<br>
Therefore the dead are disciplined in purgatory, and pay<br>
The penalty of old evil: some hang, stretched ot the blast of<br>
Vacuum winds; for others, the stain of sin is washed <br>
Away in a vast whirlpool or cauterized with fire.<br>
Each of us finds in the next world his own level.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/150/mode/2up?q=%22yes+not+even%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And when the final day of life deserts them,<br>
then, even then, not every ill, not all<br>
the plagues of body quit them utterly;<br>
and this must be, for taints so long congealed<br>
cling fast and deep in extraordinary<br>
ways. Therefore they are schooled by punishment<br>
and pay with torments for their own misdeeds:<br>
some there are purified by air, suspended <br>
and stretched before the empty winds; for some<br>
the stain of guilt is washed away beneath <br>
a mighty whirlpool or consumed by fire.<br>
First each of us must suffer his own Shade.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22when+the+final+day%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 970ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">In fact<br>
Even when life departs on the last day<br>
Not all the scourges of the body pass<br>
From the poor souls, not all distress of life.<br>
Inevitably, many malformations,<br>
Growing together in mysterious ways,<br>
Become inveterate. Therefore they undergo<br>
The discipline of punishments and pay<br>
In penance for old sins: some hang full length<br>
To the empty winds, for some the stain of wrong<br>
Is washed by floods or burned away by fire.<br>
We suffer each his own shade.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/184/mode/2up?q=%22even+when+life+departs%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 988ff] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even when life leaves them on their last day of light, they are not wholly freed from all the many ills and miseries of the body which must harden in them over the long years and become ingrained in ways we cannot understand. And so they are put to punishment, to pay the penalty for all their ancient sins. Some are stretched and hung out empty to dry in the winds. Some have the stain of evil washed out of them under a vast tide of water or scorched out by fire. Each of us suffers his own fate in the after-life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/154/mode/2up?q=%22life+leaves+them%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why, when life leaves them at the final hour,<br>
still all of the evil, all the plagues of the flesh, alas,<br>
have not completely vanished, and many things, long hardened<br>
deep within, must of necessity be ingrained, in strange ways.<br>
So they are scourged by torments, and pay the price<br>
for former sins: some are hung, stretched out,<br>
to the hollow winds, the taint of wickedness is cleansed<br>
for others in vast gulfs, or burned away with fire:<br>
each spirit suffers its own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242939:~:text=Why%2C%20when%20life,suffers%20its%20own">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Nor, when the last gleam<br>
Of life flickers out, are all the ills<br>
That flesh is heir to completely uprooted. <br>
But many corporal taints remain,<br>
Ingrained in the soul in myriad ways. <br>
And so we are disciplined and expiate<br>
Our bygone sins. Some souls are hung<br>
Spread to the winds; others are cleansed<br>
Under swirling waters or purged by fire.<br>
We each suffer our own ghosts. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/y8pgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22when%20the%20last%20gleam%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">True,<br>
but even on that last day, when the light of life departs,<br>
the wretches are not completely purged of all the taints,<br>
nor are they wholly freed of all the body’s plagues.<br>
Down deep they harden fast -- they must, so long engrained<br>
in the flesh -- in strange, uncanny ways. And so the souls<br>
are drilled in punishments, they must pay for their old offenses.<br>
Some are hung splayed out, exposed to the empty winds,<br>
some are plunged in the rushing floods -- their stains,<br>
their crimes scoured off or scorched away by fire.<br>
Each of us must suffer his own demanding ghost.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22demanding%20ghost%22">Fagles</a> (2006), l. 849ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor things, even when life leaves them on the day of death, not every sin or canker of the flesh fully recedes. Many habits harden over time, and in this way become ingrained. So they pay for former crimes by torment: exposed to hollow winds by crucifixion, washed clean of infection in a whirling flood, or cauterized by fire -- we all suffer our soul's cure.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22poor%20things%20even%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto  3, l. 103ff (3.103-108) (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 100ff]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">In despair<br />
they blasphemed God, their parents, their time on earth,<br />
<span class="tab">the race of Adam, and the day and the hour<br />
<span class="tab">and the place and the seed and the womb that gave them birth.<br />
But all together they drew to that grim shore<br />
<span class="tab">where all must come who lose the fear of God.<br />
<span class="tab">Weeping and cursing they come for evermore.</p>
<p><em>[Bestemmiavano Dio e lor parenti,<br />
<span class="tab">l’umana spezie e ’l loco e ’l tempo e ’l seme<br />
<span class="tab">di lor semenza e di lor nascimenti.<br />
Poi si ritrasser tutte quante insieme,<br />
<span class="tab">forte piangendo, a la riva malvagia<br />
<span class="tab">ch’attende ciascun uom che Dio non teme.]</span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l. 103ff (3.103-108) (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 100ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22blasphemed+God%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The damned at Charon's boat, waiting to cross the Acheron. (<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_III#:~:text=Bestemmiavano%20Dio%20e,Dio%20non%20teme.">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>God and their parents they alike blasphem'd,<br>
Cursing all human kind, the time, the seed<br>
From when they sprang, and of their birth the place.<br>
They crouded then, with horrid yells and loud,<br>
Close to the cursed shore of bliss devoid:<br>
Where ev'ry Mortal waits who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22God%20and%20their%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 87ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Loud they began to curse their natal star, <br>
Their parent-clime, their lineage, and their God;<br>
<span class="tab">Then to the ferry took the downward road<br>
<span class="tab">With lamentable cries of loud despair.<br>
Then o'er the fatal flood, in horror hung<br>
Collected, stood the Heav'abandon'd throng.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22Loud+they+began%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 22-23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">God and their parents they blasphem'd,<br>
The human kind, the place, the time, and seed<br>
That did engender them and give them birth.<br>
Then all together sorely wailing drew<br>
To the curs'd strand, that every man must pass<br>
Who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#link3:~:text=God%20and%20their%20parents%20they%20blasphem%27d%2C%0AThe%20human%20kind%2C%20the%20place%2C%20the%20time%2C%20and%20seed%0AThat%20did%20engender%20them%20and%20give%20them%20birth.%0A%0AThen%20all%20together%20sorely%20wailing%20drew%0ATo%20the%20curs%27d%20strand%2C%20that%20every%20man%20must%20pass%0AWho%20fears%20not%20God.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God they blasphemed, their parents and their kind,<br>
<span class="tab">The place, the time, the seed prolifical,<br>
<span class="tab">That embryo sowed them, and to life consigned.<br>
Then wailing loud, their troop they gathered all,<br>
<span class="tab">And back recoiled them to the baleful verge,<br>
<span class="tab">Ordained to men from godliness who fall.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n28/mode/2up?q=%22%E2%82%ACk%3Ed+they+blasphemed%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">They blasphemed God and their parents; the human kind; the place, the time, and origin of their seed, and of their birth.<br>
<span class="tab">Then all of them together, sorely weeping, drew to the accursed shore, which awaits every man that fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blasphemed%20God%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Blasphemed their God, their parents, human kind;<br>
The time when, the hour, the natal earth,<br>
The seed of their begetting, and their birth.<br>
Then all withdrew, who there together were,<br>
Loudly lamenting, to the wicked shore,<br>
Awaiting those who feared not God before.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22Blasphemed+their+God%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God they blasphem'd, their parents they blasphem'd,<br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place, the time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">Of their conception and nativity.<br>
Then by one impulse driv'n they onwards rush'd<br>
<span class="tab">With bitter weeping to th' accursèd shore;<br>
<span class="tab">The doom of all who have not God in fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22God%20they%20blasphem%27d%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God they blasphemed and their progenitors,<br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place, the time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">Of their engendering and of their birth! ⁠<br>
Thereafter all together they drew back,<br>
<span class="tab">Bitterly weeping, to the accursed shore,<br>
<span class="tab">Which waiteth every man who fears not God. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_3#:~:text=God%20they%20blasphemed,fears%20not%20God.">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They fell to blaspheming God and their parents, the human kind, the place, the time, and the seed of their begetting and of their birth. Then they dragged them all together, wailing loud, to the baleful bank, which awaits every man that fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22blaspheming+God%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They cursed at God and at their parentage,<br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place, the time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">Of their begetting, and their earliest age.<br>
Then all of them together on proceed.<br>
<span class="tab">Wailing aloud, to the evil bank that stays <br>
<span class="tab">For every one of God who takes no heed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22cursed+at+God%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They blasphemed God and their parents, the human race, the place, the time and the seed of their sowing and of their birth. Then, bitterly weeping, they drew back all of them together to the evil bank, that waits for every man who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.III:~:text=They%20blasphemed%20God%20and%20their%20parents%2C%20the%20human%20race%2C%20the%20place%2C%20the%20time%20and%20the%20seed%20of%20their%20sowing%20and%20of%20their%20birth.%20Then%2C%20bitterly%20weeping%2C%20they%20drew%20back%20all%20of%20them%20together%20to%20the%20evil%20bank%2C%20that%20waits%20for%20every%20man%20who%20fears%20not%20God.">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They fell to blaspheming God and their parents, the human race, the place, the time, the seed of their sowing and of their births. Then in all their thronging crowds, the while they loudly wailed, they gathered them back together to the accursed shore, that awaiteth everyone that hath no fear of God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n30/mode/2up?q=%22blaspheming+God%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Blasphemed they God himself and their own parents. <br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place, the time, the sowing<br>
<span class="tab">O' the seed they sprang from, and their own beginnings. <br>
Then they retreated, one and all together, <br>
<span class="tab">Bitterly weeping, to the brink accursèd <br>
<span class="tab">Which for all men who fear not God is waiting.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n30/mode/2up?q=%22blasphemed+they+god%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They blasphemed God and their parents, the human kind, the place, the time, and the seed of their begetting and of their birth, then, weeping bitterly, they drew all together to the accursed shore which awaits every man that fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blasphemed%20God%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They blasphemed God, blasphemed their mother's womb,<br>
<span class="tab">The human kind, the place, the time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">Of their engendering, and their birth and doom;<br>
Then weeping all together in their sad need<br>
<span class="tab">Betook themselves to the accursed shore<br>
<span class="tab">Which awaits each who of God takes no heed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22blasphemed+God%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God they blaspheme, blaspheme their parents' bed,<br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place, the time, the blood<br>
<span class="tab">The seed that got them, and the womb that bred;<br>
Then, huddling hugger-mugger, down they scud,<br>
<span class="tab">Dismally wailing, to the accursed strand<br>
<span class="tab">Which waits for every man that fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/88/mode/2up?q=%22god+they+blaspheme%22">Sayers</a> (1949)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They cursed God, their parents, the human race, the place, the time, the seed of their begetting and of their birth. Then, weeping loudly, all drew to the evil shore that awaits every man who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n41/mode/2up?q=%22they+cursed+god%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They were cursing God, cursing their mother and father,<br>
<span class="tab">the human race, and the time, the place, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">of their beginning, and their day of birth.<br>
Then all together, weeping bitterly,<br>
<span class="tab">they packed themselves along the wicked shore<br>
<span class="tab">that waits for everyman who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22cursing+god%22">Musa</a> (1971)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They execrated God and their own parents<br>
<span class="tab">and humankind, and then the place and time<br>
<span class="tab">of their conception's seed and of their birth.<br>
Then they forgathered, huddled in one throng,<br>
<span class="tab">weeping aloud along that wretched shore<br>
<span class="tab">which waits for all who have no fear of God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/24/mode/2up?q=execrated">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then they blasphemed God and cursed their parents,<br>
<span class="tab">The human race, the place and time, the seed,<br>
<span class="tab">The land that it was sown in, and their birth.<br>
And then they gatehred, all of them together,<br>
<span class="tab">Weeping aloud, upon the evil shore<br>
<span class="tab">Which awaits every man who does not fear God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22blasphemed+God%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">... cursing the human race,<br>
God and their parents. Teeth chattering in their skulls,<br>
<span class="tab">They called curses on the seed, the place, the hour<br>
<span class="tab">Of their own begetting and their birth. With wails<br>
And tears they gaterhed on the evil shore<br>
<span class="tab">That waits for all who don't fear God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22cursing+the+human+race%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">They cursed God and their parents, the human race and the place and the time and the seed of their sowing and of their birth.<br>
<span class="tab">Then all of them together, weeping loudly, drew near the evil shore that awaits each one who does not fear God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22cursed+God%22">Durling</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They blasphemed against God, and their parents, the human species, the place, time, and seed of their conception, and of their birth. Then, all together, weeping bitterly, they neared the cursed shore that waits for every one who has no fear of God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090921:~:text=They%20blasphemed%20against%20God%2C%20and%20their%20parents%2C%20the%20human%20species%2C%20the%20place%2C%20time%2C%20and%20seed%20of%20their%20conception%2C%20and%20of%20their%20birth.%20Then%2C%20all%20together%2C%20weeping%20bitterly%2C%20they%20neared%20the%20cursed%20shore%20that%20waits%20for%20every%20one%20who%20has%20no%20fear%20of%20God.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>And they cursed God, and cursed the human race;<br>
<span class="tab">they cursed their parents=, and their kith and kin;<br>
<span class="tab">they cursed their birth; they cursed its time and place.<br>
Weeping and gnashing their teeth they all drew in<br>
<span class="tab">to that accursèd shore, which is the ate<br>
<span class="tab">of everyone who brings his soul to ruin.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22they%20cursed%20god%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They raged, blaspheming God and their own kin,<br>
<span class="tab">the human race, the place and time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">from which they'd sprung, the day that they'd been born.<br>
And then they came together all as one,<br>
<span class="tab">wailing aloud along the evil margin<br>
<span class="tab">that waits for all who have no fear of God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22blaspheming+god%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They blasphemed God, their parents,<br>
<span class="tab">the human race, the place, the time, the seed<br>
<span class="tab">of their begetting and their birth.<br>
Then weeping bitterly, they drew together<br>
<span class="tab">to the accursèd shore that waits<br>
<span class="tab">for every man who fears not God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=103&INP_LEN=6">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They cursed at God, the human race, their parents,<br>
<span class="tab">The place where they'd been born, and the time, and the seed<br>
<span class="tab">That gave them life and brought about their birth.<br>
Then they crowded, all of them loudly weeping,<br>
<span class="tab">Down to the cursed, ever-barren shore<br>
<span class="tab">That waits for men who live as if God were sleeping.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cursed%20at%20god%22">Raffel</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They cursed their parents, God, the human race,<br>
The time, the temperature, their place of birth,<br>
Their mother's father's brother's stupid face,<br>
And everything of worth or nothing worth<br>
That they could think of. Then they squeezed up tight<br>
Together, sobbing, on the ragged edge<br>
That waits for all who hold God in despite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22cursed+their+parents%22">James</a> (2013), l. 136ff]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 660ff (6.660-664) (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 764ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are troops of men who had suffered wounds, fighting to save their country, and those who had been pure priests while still alive, and the faithful poets whose songs were fit for Phoebus; those who enriched our lives with the newfound arts they forged and those we remember well for the good they did [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Here are troops of men<br />
who had suffered wounds, fighting to save their country,<br />
and those who had been pure priests while still alive,<br />
and the faithful poets whose songs were fit for Phoebus;<br />
those who enriched our lives with the newfound arts they forged<br />
and those we remember well for the good they did mankind.</p>
<p><em>[Hic manus, ob patriam pugnando vulnera passi,<br />
Quique sacerdotes casti, dum vita manebat,<br />
Quique pii vates, et Phoebo digna locuti,<br />
Inventas aut qui vitam excoluere per artes,<br />
Quique sui memores alios fecere merendo.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 660ff (6.660-664) (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 764ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22troops%20of%20men%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Some of the blessed in Elysium. <br><br>

Fairclough (below) suggests that the "arts" <em>(artes)</em> refers not so much to material inventions as to philosophical principles. Note that the Nobel prize medals for Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, and Literature include the similar <em>"Inventas vitam juvat excoluisse per artes."</em><br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D637#:~:text=Hic%20manus%20ob%20patriam%20pugnando%20volnera%20passi%2C%0Aquique%20sacerdotes%20casti%2C%20dum%20vita%20manebat%2C%0Aquique%20pii%20vates%20et%20Phoebo%20digna%20locuti%2C%0Ainventas%20aut%20qui%20vitam%20excoluere%20per%20artes%2C%0Aquique%20sui%20memores%20alios%20fecere%20merendo">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>And here were those did for their countrey die,<br>
With Priests who in their lives vow'd chastitie;<br>
And sacred Poets who pleas'd Phoebus best,<br>
Or by invented arts man's life assist,<br>
And others in their memories renown'd,<br>
Their temples all with snowie garlands bound.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=And%20here%20were,snowie%20garlands%20bound.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Here patriots live, who, for their country's good,<br>
In fighting fields, were prodigal of blood:<br>
Priests of unblemish'd lives here make abode,<br>
And poets worthy their inspiring god;<br>
And searching wits, of more mechanic parts,<br>
Who grac'd their age with new-invented arts:<br>
Those who to worth their bounty did extend,<br>
And those who knew that bounty to commend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=Here%20patriots%20live,bounty%20to%20commend.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here is a band of those who sustained wounds in fighting for their country; priests who preserved themselves pure and holy, while life remained; pious poets, who sung in strains worthy of Apollo; those who improved life by the invention of arts, and who by their worthy deeds made others remember them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22band%20of%20those%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here sees he the illustrious dead<br>
Who fighting for their country bled;<br>
Priests, who while earthly life remained<br>
Preserved that life unsoiled, unstained;<br>
Blest bards, transparent souls and clear,<br>
Whose song was worthy Phœbus' ear;<br>
Inventors, who by arts refined<br>
The common life of human kind,<br>
With all who grateful memory won<br>
By services to others done.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=Here%20sees%20he,to%20others%20done">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here the bands are seen, <br>
Of those who for their country fought and bled; <br>
The chaste and holy priests; the reverent bards <br>
Whose words were worthy of Apollo; those <br>
Who enriched life with the inventive arts; <br>
And all who by deserving deeds had made <br>
Their names remembered.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n209/mode/2up?q=%22here+the+bands%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 821ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here is the band of them who bore wounds in fighting for their country, and they who were pure in priesthood while life endured, and the good poets whose speech abased not Apollo; and they who made life beautiful by the arts of their invention, and who won by service a memory among men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#:~:text=Here%20is%20the%20band%20of%20them%20who%20bore%20wounds%20in%20fighting%20for%20their%20country%2C%20and%20they%20who%20were%20pure%20in%20priesthood%20while%20life%20endured%2C%20and%20the%20good%20poets%20whose%20speech%20abased%20not%20Apollo%3B%20and%20they%20who%20made%20life%20beautiful%20by%20the%20arts%20of%20their%20invention%2C%20and%20who%20won%20by%20service%20a%20memory%20among%20men">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lo, they who in their country's fight sword-wounded bodies bore;<br>
Lo, priests of holy life and chaste, while they in life had part;<br>
Lo, God-loved poets, men who spake things worthy Phœbus' heart:<br>
And they who bettered life on earth by new-found mastery;<br>
And they whose good deeds left a tale for men to name them by.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#:~:text=Lo%2C%20they%20who,name%20them%20by">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There, the slain patriot, and the spotless sage,<br>
And pious poets, worthy of the God;<br>
There he, whose arts improved a rugged age,<br>
And those who, labouring for their country's good,<br>
Lived long-remembered.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=There%2C%20the%20slain%20patriot%2C%20and%20the%20spotless%20sage%2C%0AAnd%20pious%20poets%2C%20worthy%20of%20the%20God%3B%0AThere%20he%2C%20whose%20arts%20improved%20a%20rugged%20age%2C%0AAnd%20those%20who%2C%20labouring%20for%20their%20country%27s%20good%2C%0ALived%20long%2Dremembered">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 88, l. 784ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here dwell the brave who for their native land<br>
Fell wounded on the field; here holy priests<br>
Who kept them undefiled their mortal day;<br>
And poets, of whom the true-inspired song<br>
Deserved Apollo's name; and all who found<br>
New arts, to make man's life more blest or fair;<br>
Yea! here dwell all those dead whose deeds bequeath<br>
Deserved and grateful memory to their kind.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D637#:~:text=Here%20dwell%20the,to%20their%20kind.">Williams</a> (1910), l. 669ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here is the band of those who suffered wounds, fighting for fatherland ; those who in lifetime were priests and pure, good bards, whose songs were meet for Phoebus; or they who ennobled life by truths discovered and they who by service have won remembrance among men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n559/mode/2up?q=%22here+is+the+band%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">The band of heroes<br>
Dwell here, all those whose mortal wounds were suffered<br>
In fighting for the fatherland; and poets,<br>
The good, the pure, the worthy of Apollo;<br>
Those who discovered truth and made life nobler;<br>
Those who served others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=The%20band%20of,who%20served%20others">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here were assembled those who had suffered wounds in defence of<br>
Their country; those who had lived pure lives as priests; and poets<br>
Who had not disgraced Apollo, poets of true integrity;<br>
Men who civilised life by the skills they discovered, and men whose<br>
Kindness to others has kept their memories green.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22here+were+assembled%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here was the company of those who suffered<br>
wounds, fighting for their homeland; and of those<br>
who, while they lived their lives, served as pure priests;<br>
and then the pious poets, those whose songs <br>
were worthy of Apollo; those who had<br>
made life more civilized with newfound arts;<br>
and those whose merits won the memory<br>
of all men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/154/mode/2up?q=%22here+was+the+company%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 874ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This was the company of those who suffered<br>
Wounds in battle for their country; those<br>
Who i their lives were holy men and chaste<br>
Or worthy of Phoebus in prophetic song;<br>
Or those who betted life, by finding out <br>
New truths and skills; or those who to some folk<br>
By benefactions made themselves remembered.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/182/mode/2up?q=%22this+was+the+company%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 883ff] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here were armies of men bearing wounds received while fighting for their native land, priests who had been chaste unto death and true prophets whose words were worthy of Apollo; then those who have raised human life to new heights by the skills they have discovered and those whom men remember for what they have done for men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22here+were+armies%22">West</a> (1990)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here is the company of those who suffered wounds fighting<br>
for their country: and those who were pure priests, while they lived,<br>
and those who were faithful poets, singers worthy of Apollo,<br>
and those who improved life, with discoveries in Art or Science,<br>
and those who by merit caused others to remember them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242936:~:text=Here%20is%20the,to%20remember%20them">Kline</a> (2002)]<br></blockquote>

<blockquote>Here were legions wounded fighting for their country, priests who'd led pure lives, pious poets with songs worthy of Apollo, men who bettered life by new inventions, and those whose merit set them down in memory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22here%20were%20legions%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 625ff (6.625-627) [The Sybil] (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 724ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not if I had a hundred tongues and a hundred mouths and a voice of iron too &#8212; I could never capture all the crimes or run through all the torments, doom by doom. [Non, mihi si linguae centum sunt oraque centum Ferrea vox, omnis scelerum comprendere formas, Omnia poenarum percurrere nomina possim.] The [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not if I had a hundred tongues and a hundred mouths<br />
and a voice of iron too &#8212; I could never capture<br />
all the crimes or run through all the torments,<br />
doom by doom.</p>
<p><em>[Non, mihi si linguae centum sunt oraque centum<br />
Ferrea vox, omnis scelerum comprendere formas,<br />
Omnia poenarum percurrere nomina possim.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 625ff (6.625-627) [The Sybil] (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 724ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The punishments in Tartarus. Virgil uses a similar metaphor in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%20a%20hundred%20mouths%22"><em>Georgics</em> 2.43</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D576#:~:text=Non%2C%20mihi%20si%20linguae%20centum%20sint%20oraque%20centum%2C%0Aferrea%20vox%2C%20omnis%20scelerum%20comprendere%20formas%2C%0Aomnia%20poenarum%20percurrere%20nomina%20possim.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Had I a hundred mouths, as many tongues,<br>
A voice of iron, to these had brazen lungs;<br>
Their crimes and tortures ne're could be displaid.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Had%20I%20a,could%20be%20displaid.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Had I a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
And throats of brass, inspired with iron lungs,<br>
I could not half those horrid crimes repeat,<br>
Nor half the punishments those crimes have met.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=Had%20I%20a%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20a%20hundred%20tongues%2C%0AAnd%20throats%20of%20brass%2C%20inspir%27d%20with%20iron%20lungs%2C%0AI%20could%20not%20half%20those%20horrid%20crimes%20repeat%2C%0ANor%20half%20the%20punishments%20those%20crimes%20have%20met.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Had I a hundred tongues, and a hundred mouths, and a voice of iron, I could not comprehend all the species of their crimes, nor enumerate the names of all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%20and%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No -- had I e'en a hundred tongues<br>
A hundred mouths, and iron lungs,<br>
Those types of guilt I could not show,<br>
Nor tell the forms of penal woe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=No%E2%80%94had%20I%20e%27en%20a%20hundred%20tongues%0AA%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20and%20iron%20lungs%2C%0AThose%20types%20of%20guilt%20I%20could%20not%20show%2C%0ANor%20tell%20the%20forms%20of%20penal%20woe.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred tongues, a voice<br>
Of iron, could I tell thee all the forms <br>
Of guilt, or number all their penalties.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n207/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 780ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not had I an hundred tongues, an hundred mouths, and a voice of iron, could I sum up all the shapes of crime or name over all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_SIXTH:~:text=Not%20had%20I%20an%20hundred%20tongues%2C%20an%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20and%20a%20voice%20of%20iron%2C%20could%20I%20sum%20up%20all%20the%20shapes%20of%20crime%20or%20name%20over%20all%20their%20punishments.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor, had I now an hundred mouths, an hundred tongues at need,<br>
An iron voice, might I tell o'er all guise of evil deed,<br>
Or run adown the names of woe those evil deeds are worth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=Nor%2C%20had%20I,deeds%20are%20worth.">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ne'er had a hundred mouths, if such were mine,<br>
Nor hundred tongues their endless sins declared,<br>
Nor iron voice their torments could define,<br>
Or tell what doom to each the avenging gods assign.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#book6line559:~:text=Ne%27er%20had%20a,avenging%20gods%20assign.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 83, l. 744ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I could not tell,<br>
Not with a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
Or iron voice, their divers shapes of sin,<br>
Nor call by name the myriad pangs they bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D576#:~:text=I%20could%20not%20tell%2C%0ANot%20with%20a%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20a%20hundred%20tongues%2C%0AOr%20iron%20voice%2C%20their%20divers%20shapes%20of%20sin%2C%0ANor%20call%20by%20name%20the%20myriad%20pangs%20they%20bear.">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, had I a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths, and voice of iron, I could not sum up all the forms of crime, or rehearse all the tale of torments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n555/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I had a hundred tongues,<br>
A hundred iron throats, I could not tell<br>
The fullness of their crime and punishment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=If%20I%20had%20a,their%20crime%20and%20punishment.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, not if I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths<br>
And a voice of iron, could I describe all the shapes of wickedness,<br>
Catalogue all the retributions inflicted here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A hundred tongues,<br>
a hundred mouths, an iron voice were not<br>
enough for me to gather all the forms<br>
of crime or tell the names of all the torments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 829ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">If I had<br>
A hundred tongues, a hundred mouths, a voice<br>
Of iron, I could not tell of all the shapes<br>
Their crimes had taken, or their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/180/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths and a voice of iron, I could not encompass all their different crimes or speak the names of all their different punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths,<br>
a voice of iron, could I tell all the forms of wickedness<br>
or spell out the names of every torment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242935:~:text=Not%20if%20I,of%20every%20torment.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
And a voice of iron, could I recount<br>
All the crimes or tell all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/y8pgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A hundred tongues and mouths, an iron voice, wouldn't let me cover the varieties of evil, nor all the names for punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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<p>There, steering toward us in an ancient ferry<br />
<span class="tab">came an old man with a white bush of hair,<br />
<span class="tab">bellowing: &#8220;Woe to you depraved souls! Bury<br />
here and forever all hope of Paradise:<br />
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br />
<span class="tab">into eternal dark, into fire and ice.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Ed ecco verso noi venir per nave<br />
<span class="tab">un vecchio, bianco per antico pelo,<br />
<span class="tab">gridando: &#8220;Guai a voi, anime prave!<br />
Non isperate mai veder lo cielo:<br />
<span class="tab">i’ vegno per menarvi a l’altra riva<br />
<span class="tab">ne le tenebre etterne, in caldo e ’n gelo.]</span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.  82ff (3.82-87) [Charon] (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 79ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22steering+toward+us%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_III#:~:text=Ed%20ecco%20verso,e%20%E2%80%99n%20gelo.">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Lo, rowing tow'rds us was one white with age,<br>
And bawling out, "woe do you Souls deprav'd,<br>
<span class="tab">Heaven expects you not e'er more to see;<br>
<span class="tab">I come to waft you to another coast,<br>
<span class="tab">Where are eternal Darkness, Heat, and Frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lo%20rowing%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 68ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Far off exclaim'd the grizzly mariner,<br>
"Hither, ye Denizens of Hell, repair!<br>
<span class="tab">The Stygian barque her wonted load requires;<br>
For you diurnal stars beignant beam,<br>
Prepare ye now to feel the fierce extreme<br>
<span class="tab">Of frost corrosive, and outrageous fire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22grizzly+mariner%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 19] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! toward us in a bark<br>
Comes on an old man hoary white with eld,<br>
Crying, "Woe to you wicked spirits! hope not<br>
Ever to see the sky again.  I come<br>
To take you to the other shore across,<br>
Into eternal darkness, there to dwell<br>
In fierce heat and in ice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#link3:~:text=And%20lo!%20toward,and%20in%20ice.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">When lo! to meet us came<br>
<span class="tab">An ancient boatman, hoar with many a year. <br>
<span class="tab">Crying, "Woe to you, souls of evil name!<br>
Ne'er hope to see the bright celestial sphere: <br>
<span class="tab">I come to waft you to another shore, <br>
<span class="tab">Where, cold or heat, still endless night is near.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22meet+us+came%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">And lo! an old man, white with ancient hair, comes towards us in a bark, shouting, "Woe to you, depraved spirits!<br>
<span class="tab">hope not ever to see Heaven: I come to lead you to the other shore; into the eternal darkness; into fire and into ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22an%20old%20man%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us came one in a bark,<br>
Whose head with hoar antiquity was white,<br>
Cried, "Wow! Ye wicked souls, no more for heaven,<br>
I come to lead you to yon other hold --<br>
Darkness eternal, and to hot and cold!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22one+in+a+bark%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us in a bark approach'd<br>
<span class="tab">An aged man and white with hoary hair<br>
<span class="tab">Crying -- "Woe, woe to you, ye wicked souls!<br>
Hope not that you can ever Heaven behold;<br>
<span class="tab">I come to guide you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">To night eternal, endless cold and heat.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22and%20lo%20towards%20us%22">Johnston</a> (1867), l. 92ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us coming in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An old man, hoary with the hair of eld,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying: "Woe unto you, ye souls depraved!<br>
Hope nevermore to look upon the heavens; ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">To the eternal shades in heat and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_3#:~:text=And%20lo!%20towards,heat%20and%20frost.">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And behold came towards us in a boat an old man white by reason of ancient hair, crying, ‘Woe to you, perverse souls! Hope not again to see the sky; I come to bring you to the other bank, among the eternal gloom, to heat and to cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22behold+came+towards%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When lo! upon a bark there towards us came <br>
<span class="tab">A very old man, with age-whitened hair. <br>
<span class="tab">Crying aloud, "Ah, woe, ye souls of shame!<br>
Hope not again to see the sky so fair. <br>
<span class="tab">I come to take ye to the other side. <br>
<span class="tab">To shades eterne of heat and freezing there."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22upon+a+bark%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! coming toward us in a boat, an old man, white with ancient hair, crying, “Woe to you, wicked souls! hope not ever to see Heaven! I come to carry you to the other bank, into eternal darkness, to heat and frost.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.III:~:text=And%20lo!%20coming%20toward%20us%20in%20a%20boat%2C%20an%20old%20man%2C%20white%20with%20ancient%20hair%2C%20crying%2C%20%E2%80%9CWoe%20to%20you%2C%20wicked%20souls!%20hope%20not%20ever%20to%20see%20Heaven!%20I%20come%20to%20carry%20you%20to%20the%20other%20bank%2C%20into%20eternal%20darkness%2C%20to%20heat%20and%20frost.">Norton</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! an old man, hoary with ancient locks, draweth towards us in a boat, crying out: "Curse on you, sinful souls! Never hope to see the sky! I am coming to ferry you to the other shore, into the darkness that is for ever, into flame and into frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n28/mode/2up?q=%22hoary+with+ancient%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us coming in a vessel<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">An old man, whom his ancient locks made hoary,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying out : "Woe to you, ye souls unrighteous; <br>
Cherish not hope of ever seeing heaven; <br>
<span class="tab">Unto the other bank I come to take you, <br>
<span class="tab">To heat and frost, in the eternal darkness."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n30/mode/2up?q=%22towards+us+coming%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo, coming towards us in a boat, an old man, his hair white with age, crying: "Woe to you, wicked souls, hope not ever to see the sky. I am come to bring you to the other bank, into the eternal shades, into fire and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22coming%20towards%20us%20in%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And toward us lo! arriving in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An Ancient, white with hair upon him old,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying, "Woe to you, ye spirits misbegot!<br>
Hope not that heaven ye ever shall behold.<br>
<span class="tab">I come to carry you to yon shore, and lead<br>
<span class="tab">Into the eternal darkness, heat and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22white+with+hair%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">When from the far bank lo!<br>
<span class="tab">A boat shot forth, whose white-haired boatman old<br>
<span class="tab">Bawled as he came: "Woe to the wicked! Woe!<br>
Never you hope to look on Heaven -- behold!<br>
<span class="tab">I come to ferry you hence across the tide<br>
<span class="tab">To endless night, fierce fires and shramming cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22boat+shot+forth%22">Sayers</a> (1949)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And behold, an old man, his hair white with age, coming towards us in a boat and shouting, "Woe to you, wicked souls! Do not hope to see Heaven ever! I come to carry you to the other shore, into eternal darkness, into fire and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n41/mode/2up?q=%22behold+an+old+man%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And suddenly, coming towards us in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">a man of years who ancient hair was white<br>
<span class="tab">screamed at us, "Woe to you, perverted souls!<br>
Give up all hope of every seeing heaven:<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal darkness, ice and fire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22suddenly+coming%22">Musa</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And here, advancing toward us, in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">an aged man -- his hair was white with years --<br>
<span class="tab">was shouting: "Woe to you, corrupted souls!<br>
Forget your hope of ever seeing Heaven:<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">to the eternal dark, to fire and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22advancing+toward%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And then, there came towards us in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An old man who was white with brittle hair,<br>
<span class="tab">Calling out: "Woe to you, perverse spirits!<br>
You need not hope that you will ever see heaven;<br>
<span class="tab">I have come to take you to the other side,<br>
<span class="tab">Into eternal darkness, fire and ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22there+came+towards%22">Sisson</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then, at the river -- an old man in a boat:<br>
<span class="tab">White-haired, as he drew closer, shouting at us,<br>
<span class="tab">"Woe to you, wicked souls! Give up the thought<br>
Of Heaven! I come to ferry you across<br>
<span class="tab">Into eternal dark on the opposite side,<br>
<span class="tab">Into fire and ice!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22old+man+in+a+boat%22">Pinsky</a> (1994), l. 67ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">And behold coming toward us in a boat an old man, white with the hairs of age, crying, "Woe to you, wicked souls!<br>
<span class="tab">Never hope to see the sky: I come to lead you to the other shore, to the eternal shadows, to heat and freezing."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22behold+coming%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And see, an old man, with white hoary locks, came towards us in a boat, shouting: "Woe to you, wicked spirits! Never hope to see heaven: I come to carry you to the other shore, into eternal darkness, into fire and ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090921:~:text=And%20see%2C%20an%20old%20man%2C%20with%20white%20hoary%20locks%2C%20came%20towards%20us%20in%20a%20boat%2C%20shouting%3A%20%E2%80%98Woe%20to%20you%2C%20wicked%20spirits!%20Never%20hope%20to%20see%20heaven%3A%20I%20come%20to%20carry%20you%20to%20the%20other%20shore%2C%20into%20eternal%20darkness%2C%20into%20fire%20and%20ice.">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Then lo! as we approached the place, a boat <br>
<span class="tab">materialized, manned by a hoary boatman. <br>
<span class="tab">"Woe to ye!" he roared, "abandon hope! <br>
I come to lead you to the dark dominion <br>
<span class="tab">of the other shore: into eternal shades of ice and fire, <br>
<span class="tab">where no pain is forgotten."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22then%20lo%20as%20we%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Look now! Towards us in a boat there came<br>
<span class="tab">an old man, yelling, hair all white and aged,<br>
<span class="tab">"Degenerates! Your fate is sealed! Cry woe!<br>
Don't hope you'll ever see the skies again!<br>
<span class="tab">I'm here to lead you to the farther shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal shadow, heat and chill."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22boat+there+came%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And now, coming toward us in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">an old man, his hair white with age, cried out:<br>
<span class="tab">"Woe unto you, you wicked souls,<br>
give up all hope of ever seeing Heaven.<br>
<span class="tab">I come to take you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal darkness, into heat and chill."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=82&INP_LEN=6">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And suddenly a boat, and an old man in it,<br>
<span class="tab">Came gliding through the misty air, approaching<br>
<span class="tab">The shore. "Ah!" he shouted, "All you wicked<br>
Souls! Don't wish for a Heaven you have no hope<br>
<span class="tab">Of ever seeing! I'm here to take you over<br>
<span class="tab">The river, to eternal darkness, to fire and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22suddenly%20a%20boat%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Where suddenly an old man in a boat<br>
Headed towards us, tossing his white hair<br>
As he cried, "Woe to you and to your souls!<br>
Give up your hopes of Heaven! I have come<br>
To take you to the other side. Hot coals<br>
And ice await, to brand you and benumb<br>
In everlasting shadow."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22old+man+in+a+boat%22">James</a> (2013), l. 114ff]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no right to prejudice another in his <i>civil</i> enjoiments because he is of another church. If any man err from the right way, it is his own misfortune, no injury to thee; nor therefore art thou to punish him in the things of this life because thou supposeth he will be miserable in that which is to come &#8212; on the contrary accdg to the spirit of the gospel, charity, bounty, liberality is due to him.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Essay (1776-10), &#8220;Notes on Religion&#8221; (fragment) 
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Labeled by Jefferson "Scraps Early in the Revolution." 


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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto  3, l.   1ff (3.1-9) (1309) [tr. Hollander/Hollander (2007)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE CITY OF WOE, THROUGH ME THE WAY TO EVERLASTING PAIN. THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST. JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH. DIVINE POWER MADE ME, WISDOM SUPREME, AND PRIMAL LOVE. BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT THINGS ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ENDURE. ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_73668" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-73668" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-scaled.jpg"><img decoding="async" src="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-300x246.jpg" alt="dore inferno 3 7 gates of hell" width="300" height="246" class="size-medium wp-image-73668" srcset="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-300x246.jpg 300w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-1024x840.jpg 1024w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-768x630.jpg 768w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-1536x1260.jpg 1536w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Dore-inferno-3-7-gates-of-hell-2048x1681.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-73668" class="wp-caption-text">Dore &#8211; Inferno Canto 3 l. 7 &#8211; &#8220;Abandon All Hope&#8221;</figcaption></figure>
<p>THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE CITY OF WOE,<br />
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO EVERLASTING PAIN.<br />
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST.<br />
JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH.<br />
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br />
<span class="tab">WISDOM SUPREME, AND PRIMAL LOVE.<br />
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT THINGS ETERNAL,<br />
<span class="tab">AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br />
<span class="tab">ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE.</p>
<p><em>[Per me si va ne la città dolente,<br />
<span class="tab">per me si va ne l&#8217;etterno dolore,<br />
<span class="tab">per me si va tra la perduta gente.<br />
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore;<br />
<span class="tab">fecemi la divina podestate,<br />
<span class="tab">la somma sapïenza e ’l primo amore.<br />
Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create<br />
<span class="tab">se non etterne, e io etterno duro.<br />
<span class="tab">Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.   1ff (3.1-9) (1309) [tr. Hollander/Hollander (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=1&INP_LEN=9" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Inscription on the outer gate to Hell. Sometimes quoted/translated to use "all" to modify "you who enter" rather than "hope," but in the Italian, "ogni speranza" means "all hope."<br><br>

Note that Hell is the creation of all aspects of the Trinity:  Power (the Father), Wisdom (the Son), and Love (the Holy Spirit). Regarding the last, Boyd notes: "That Love to the general welfare that must induce a moral Governor to enforce his laws by the sanction of punishment; as here a mistaken humanity is cruelty."<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_III#:~:text=Per%20me%20si,voi%20ch%E2%80%99intrate%E2%80%99">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Through me you to the doleful City go;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go where there is eternal Grief;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go among the Sinners damn'ed.<br>
With strictest justice is this portal made,<br>
<span class="tab">By Power, Wisdom, and by Love divine.<br>
Nothing before me e'er created was;<br>
<span class="tab">Unless eternal, as I also am.<br>
<span class="tab">Ye who here enter to return despair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22doleful%20city%20go%22">Rogers</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thro' me, the newly-damn'd for ever fleet,<br>
<span class="tab">In ceaseless shoals, to Pain's eternal seat;<br>
<span class="tab">Thro' me they march, and join the tortur'd crew.<br>
The mighty gulph offended Justice made;<br>
<span class="tab">Unbounded pow'r the strong foundation laid,<br>
<span class="tab">And Love, by Wisdom led, the limits drew.<br>
<br>
Long ere the infant world arose to light,<br>
<span class="tab">I found a being in the womb of night.<br>
<span class="tab">Eldest of all -- but things that ever last! --<br>
And I for ever last! -- Ye hear is of Hell,<br>
<span class="tab">Here bid at once your ling'ring hope farewell,<br>
<span class="tab">And mourn the moment of repentance past!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/108/mode/2up">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 1-2]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me you pass into the city of woe:<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you pass into eternal pain:<br>
<span class="tab">Through me among the people lost for aye.<br>
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:<br>
<span class="tab">To rear me was the task of power divine,<br>
<span class="tab">Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.<br>
Before me things create were none, save things<br>
<span class="tab">Eternal, and eternal I endure.<br>
<span class="tab">"All hope abandon ye who enter here."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#link2:~:text=THROUGH%20me%20you,who%20enter%20here.%22">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the path to city named of Wail; <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the path to woe without remove; <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the path to damned souls in bale!<br>
Justice inclined my Maker from above; <br>
<span class="tab">I am by virtue of the Might Divine, <br>
<span class="tab">The Supreme Wisdom, and the Primal Love.<br>
Created birth none antedates to mine, <br>
<span class="tab">Save endless things, and endless I endure: <br>
<span class="tab">Ye that are entering -- all hope resign.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n24/mode/2up?q=%22named+of+wail%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Through me is the way into the doleful city; through me the way into the eternal pain; through me the way among the people lost.<br>
<span class="tab">Justice moved my High Maker; Divine Power made me, Wisdom Supreme, and Primal Love.<br>
<span class="tab">Before me were no things created, but eternal; and eternal I endure: leave all hope, ye that enter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22into%20the%20doleful%20city%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the way into the sad city --<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way into eternal grief --<br>
<span class="tab">Through me to nations lost without relief.<br>
Justice it was that moved my Maker high,<br>
<span class="tab">The power divine of Architect above,<br>
<span class="tab">The highest wisdom and the earliest love.<br>
The things of time were not before me, and<br>
<span class="tab">'Mid eternal eternally I stand.<br>
<span class="tab">All you that enter must leave hope behind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+sad+city%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am the way unto the dolorous city;<br>
<span class="tab">I am the way unto th' eternal dole;<br>
<span class="tab">I am the way unto the spirits lost.<br>
By Justice was my mighty Maker mov'd;<br>
<span class="tab">Omnipotence Divine created me,<br>
<span class="tab">Infinite Wisdom and Primeval Love.<br>
Prior to me no thing created was<br>
<span class="tab">But things eternal -- I eternal am;<br>
<span class="tab">Leave hope behind all ye who enter here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dolorous%20city%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the way is to the city dolent;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way is to eternal dole;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way among the people lost.<br>
Justice incited my sublime Creator;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Created me divine Omnipotence,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠The highest Wisdom and the primal Love.<br>
Before me there were no created things,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Only eterne, and I eternal last.<br>
<span class="tab">All hope abandon, ye who enter in!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_3#:~:text=T,who%20enter%20in!%22">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME IS THE WAY INTO THE WOEFUL CITY; THROUGH ME IS THE WAY TO THE ENTERNAL WOE; THROUGH ME IS THE WAY AMONG THE LOST FOLK. JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER; MY MAKER WAS THE POWER OF GOD, THE SUPREME WISDOM, AND PRIMAL LOVE. BEFORE ME WERE NO THINGS CREATED SAVE THINGS ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ABIDE; LEAVE EVERY HOPE, O YE THAT ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+woeful+city%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me ye pass into the city of woe, <br>
<span class="tab">Through me into eternal pain ye rove;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me amidst the people lost ye go. <br>
My high Creator justice first did move; <br>
<span class="tab">Me Power Divine created, and designed, <br>
<span class="tab">The highest wisdom and the primal love. <br>
Previous to me was no created kind,<br>
<span class="tab">Save the Eternal; I eternal last.<br>
<span class="tab">Ye who here enter, leave all hope behind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+woe%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me is the way into the woeful city; through me is the way into eternal woe; through me is the way among the lost people. Justice moved my lofty maker: the divine Power, the supreme Wisdom and the primal Love made me. Before me were no things created, unless eternal, and I eternal last. Leave every hope, ye who enter!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.II:~:text=Through%20me%20is,ye%20who%20enter!">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me lieth the way to the city of tribulation; through me lieth the way to the pain that hath no end; through me lieth the way amongst the lost. Justice it was that moved my august maker; God's puissance reared me, wisdom from on high, and first-born love. Before me created things were not, save those that are eternal; and I abide eternally. Leave every hope behind, ye that come within.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+tribulation%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the road is to the city doleful: <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the road is to eternal dolour: <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the road is through the lost folk's dwelling:<br>
Justice it was that moved my lofty Maker: <br>
<span class="tab">Divine Omnipotence it was that made me, <br>
<span class="tab">Wisdom supreme, and Love from everlasting:<br>
Before me were not any things created. <br>
<span class="tab">Save things eternal: I endure eternal: <br>
<span class="tab">Leave every hope behind you, ye who enter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22to+the+city+doleful%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE WOEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH,<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME <br>
<span class="tab">AND SUPREME WISDOM AND PRIMAL LOVE;<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING WAS CREATED <br>
<span class="tab">BUT ETERNAL THINGS AND I ENDURE ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YE THAT ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22into%20the%20woeful%20city%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote>v

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY IS TO THE CITY OF WOE:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE ETERNAL PAIN;<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST BELOW.<br>
RIGHTEOUSNESS DID MY MAKER ON HIGH CONSTRAIN.<br>
<span class="tab">ME DID DIVINE AUTHORITY UPREAR;<br>
<span class="tab">ME SUPREME WISDOM AND PRIMAL LOVE SUSTAIN.<br>
BEFORE I WAS, NO THINGS CREATED WERE<br>
<span class="tab">SAVE THE ETERNAL, AND I ETERNAL ABIDE.<br>
<span class="tab">RELINQUISH ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+woe%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE ROAD TO THE CITY OF DESOLATION,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE ROAD TO SORROWS DIUTURNAL,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE ROAD AMONG THE LOST CREATION.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY GREAT MAKER; GOD ETERNAL<br>
<span class="tab">WROUGHT ME: THE POWER, AND THE UNSEARCHINBLY<br>
<span class="tab">HIGH WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE SUPERNAL.<br>
NOTHING ERE I 2WAS MADE WAS MADE TO BE<br>
<span class="tab">SAVE THINGS ENTERNE, AND I ETERNE ABIDE;<br>
<span class="tab">LAY DOWN ALL HOPE, YOU THAT GO IN BY ME.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22CITY+OF+DESOLATION%22">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I AM THE WAY INTO THE CITY OF WOE.<br>
<span class="tab">I AM THE WAY TO A FORSAKEN PEOPLE.<br>
<span class="tab">I AM THE WAY INTO ETERNAL SORROW.<br>
SACRED JUSTICE MOVED MY ARCHITECT.<br>
<span class="tab">I WAS RAISED HERE BY DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE,<br>
<span class="tab">PRIMORDIAL LOVE, AND ULTIMATE INTELLECT.<br>
ONLY THOSE ELEMENTS TIME CANNOT WEAR<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE BEFORE ME, AND BEHOND TIME I STAND.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+city+of+woe%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME YOU ENTER THE WOEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER ETERNAL GRIEF,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER AMONG THE LOST.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER:<br>
<span class="tab">THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br>
<span class="tab">THE SUPREME WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING WAS CREATED<br>
<span class="tab">IF NOT ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n35/mode/2up?q=%22enter+the+woeful+city%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE DOLEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO ETERNAL GRIEF,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG A RACE FORSAKEN.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HEAVENLY CONSTRUCTOR;<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE CREATED ME,<br>
<span class="tab">AND HIGHEST WISDOM JOINED WITH PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT ETERNAL THINGS<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE, AND I SHALL LAST ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON HOPE, FOREVER, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22THROUGH+ME+THE+WAY%22">Musa</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE SUFFERING CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY THAT RUNS AMONG THE LOST.<br>
JUSTICE URGED ON MY HIGH ARTIFICER;<br>
<span class="tab">MY MAKER WAS DIVINE AUTHORITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THE HIGHEST WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT ETERNAL THINGS<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE, AND I ENDURE ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22INTO+THE+SUFFERING+CITY%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me you go into the city of weeping;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go into eternal pain;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go among the lost people.<br>
Justice is what moved my exalted Maker;<br>
<span class="tab">I was the invention of the power of God,<br>
<span class="tab">Of his wisdom, and of his primal love.<br>
Before me there was nothing that was created<br>
<span class="tab">Except eternal things; I am eternal:<br>
<span class="tab">No room for hope, when you enter this place.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+go%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME YOU ENTER INTO THE CITY OF WOES,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER INTO ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER THE POPULATION OF LOSS.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER, IN POWER DIVINE,<br>
<span class="tab">WISDOM SUPREME, LOVE PRIMAL. NO THINGS WERE<br>
<span class="tab">BEFORE ME NOT ENTERNAL; ETERNAL I REMAIN.<br>
ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+enter%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE GRIEVING CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">2THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO ETERNAL SORROW,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER;<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br>
<span class="tab">HIGHEST WISDOM, AND PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME WERE NO THINGS CREATED<br>
<span class="tab">EXCEPT ETERNAL ONES, AND I ENDURE ETERNAL.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22THROUGH+ME+THE+WAY%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE INFERNAL CITY:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO ETERNAL SADNESS:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY SUPREME MAKER:<br>
<span class="tab">I WAS SHAPED BY DIVINE POWER,<br>
<span class="tab">BY HIGHEST WISDOM, AND BY PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME, NOTHING WAS CREATED,<br>
<span class="tab">THAT IS NOT ETERNAL: AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br>
<span class="tab">FORSAKE ALL HOPE, ALL YOU THAT ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090918:~:text=THROUGH%20ME%20THE,THAT%20ENTER%20HERE.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Through me, into the city full of woe;<br>
<span class="tab">through me, the message of eternal pain;<br>
<span class="tab">through me, the passage where the lost souls go.<br>
Justice moved my Maker in his high domain;<br>
<span class="tab">Power Divine and Primal Love built me,<br>
<span class="tab">and Supreme Wisdom; I will aye remain.<br>
Before me there was nothing made to be, <br>
<span class="tab">except eternity; eternal I endure;<br>
<span class="tab">all hope abandon, ye who go through me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22city%20full%20of%20woe%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Through me you go to the grief-wracked city.<br>
<span class="tab">Through me to everlasting pain you go.<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go and pass among lost souls.<br>
Justice inspired my exalted Creator.<br>
<span class="tab">I am a creature of the Holiest Power,<br>
<span class="tab">of Wisdom in the HIghest and of Primal Love.<br>
Nothing till I was made was made, only<br>
<span class="tab">eternal beings. And I endure eternally.<br>
<span class="tab">Surrender as you enter every hope you have.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+go%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>It is through me you come to the city of sorrow,<br>
<span class="tab">It is through me you reach eternal sadness,<br>
<span class="tab">It is through me you join the forever-lost.<br>
Justice moved my makers' wondrous hands;<br>
<span class="tab">I was made by Heaven's powers, holy, divine,<br>
<span class="tab">Endless wisdom, primal love of man.<br>
Eternal existence preceded mine,<br>
<span class="tab">And nothing more. I will exist for ever.<br>
<span class="tab">Give up all hope, until the end of time. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22it%20is%20through%20me%22">Raffel</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>TO ENTER THE LOST CITY, GO THROUGH ME.<br>
THROUGH ME YOU GO TO MEET A SUFFERING<br>
UNCEASING AND ETERNAL. YOU WILL BE<br>
WITH PEOPLE WHO, THROUGH ME, LOST EVERYTHING.<br>
<br>
MY MAKER, MOVED BY JUSTICE, LIVES ABOVE.<br>
THROUGH HIM, THE HOLY POWER, I WAS MADE --<br>
MADE BY THE HEIGHT OF WISDOM AND FIRST LOVE,<br>
WHOSE LAWS ALL THOSE IN HERE ONCE DISOBEYED.<br>
<br>
FROM NOW ON, EVERY DAY FEELS LIKE YOUR LAST<br>
FOREVER. LET THAT BE YOUR GREATEST FEAR.<br>
YOUR FUTURE NOW IS TO REGRET THE PAST.<br>
FORGET YOUR HOPES. THEY WERE WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22to+enter+the+lost+city%22">James</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Letter (1814-09-26) to Miles King</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nay, we have heard it said that there is not a quaker or a baptist, a presbyterian or an episcopalian, a catholic or a protestant in heaven: that, on entering that gate, we leave those badges of schism behind, and find ourselves united in those principles only in which god has united us all. Let [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nay, we have heard it said that there is not a quaker or a baptist, a presbyterian or an episcopalian, a catholic or a protestant in heaven: that, on entering that gate, we leave those badges of schism behind, and find ourselves united in those principles only in which god has united us all. Let us not be uneasy then about the different roads we may pursue, as believing them the shortest, to that our last abode: but, following the guidance of a good conscience, let us be happy in the hope that, by these different paths, we shall all meet in the end. and that you and I may there meet and embrace is my earnest prayer: and with this assurance I salute you with brotherly esteem and respect.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Letter (1814-09-26) to Miles King 
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Where he had "heard it said" might be <a href="https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-07-02-0008#:~:text=He%20began%3B%20%E2%80%9CFather,accepted%20of%20him.%E2%80%9D">an 1813 letter from John Adams</a>.
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		<title>Browne, Thomas -- Hydriotaphia, or Urne-Buriall, ch. 4 (1658)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Dialogue between two Infants in the womb concerning the state of this world, might handsomely illustrate our ignorance of the next, whereof methinks we yet discourse in <em>Platoes</em> denne, and are but <em>Embryon</em> Philosophers.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Browne</b> (1605-1682) English physician and author<br><i>Hydriotaphia, or Urne-Buriall</i>, ch. 4 (1658) 
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		<title>Butler, Octavia -- Parable of the Talents, ch. 19, epigram (1998)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All religions are ultimately cargo cults. Adherents perform required rituals, follow specific rules, and expect to be supernaturally gifted with desired rewards &#8212; long life, honor, wisdom, children, good health, wealth, victory over opponents, immortality after death, any desired rewards.</p>
<br><b>Octavia Butler</b> (1947-2006) American writer<br><i>Parable of the Talents</i>, ch. 19, epigram (1998) 
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		<title>Asimov, Isaac -- I, Asimov, ch. 73 &#8220;Letters&#8221; (1979)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once, when a religionist denounced me in unmeasured terms, I sent him a card saying, &#8220;I am sure you believe that I will go to hell when I die, and that once there I will suffer all the pains and tortures the sadistic ingenuity of your deity can devise and that this torture will continue forever. Isn&#8217;t that enough for you? Do you have to call me bad names in addition?&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Isaac Asimov</b> (1920-1992) Russian-American author, polymath, biochemist<br><i>I, Asimov</i>, ch. 73 &#8220;Letters&#8221; (1979) 
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		<title>Gaddis, William -- A Frolic of His Own, Opening line (1994)</title>
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<br><b>William Gaddis</b> (1922-1998) American novelist<br><i>A Frolic of His Own</i>, Opening line (1994) 
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  34 (5.34) (AD 90) [tr. Wills (2007)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My parents in the underworld! I send This servant girl &#8212; take care and gently tend. Conduct her past the terrifying shade. Keep her of circling horrors unafraid, For she, alas, was only six days shy Of six years when too soon she came to die. Protect her as she plays her childhood games, And [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents in the underworld! I send<br />
<span class="tab">This servant girl &#8212; take care and gently tend.<br />
Conduct her past the terrifying shade.<br />
<span class="tab">Keep her of circling horrors unafraid,<br />
For she, alas, was only six days shy<br />
<span class="tab">Of six years when too soon she came to die.<br />
Protect her as she plays her childhood games,<br />
<span class="tab">And lisps, as shyly she was wont, our names.<br />
Earth, sadly mounded on this gravesite new,<br />
<span class="tab">Press lightly on her, as she did on you.</p>
<p><em>[Hanc tibi, Fronto pater, genetrix Flaccilla, puellam<br />
Oscula commendo deliciasque meas,<br />
Parvula ne nigras horrescat Erotion umbras<br />
Oraque Tartarei prodigiosa canis.<br />
Impletura fuit sextae modo frigora brumae,<br />
Vixisset totidem ni minus illa dies.<br />
Inter tam veteres ludat lasciva patronos<br />
Et nomen blaeso garriat ore meum.<br />
Mollia non rigidus caespes tegat ossa nec illi,<br />
Terra, gravis fueris: non fuit illa tibi.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  34 (5.34) (AD 90) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22My%20parents%20in%20the%20underworld%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Erotion was a slave child in Martial's household, per other epigrams. The identity of Fronto and Flaccilla -- whether they are the names of Martial's parents or Erotion's -- is ambiguous in the <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22fronto+pater%22">Original Latin</a>, and a subject of debate. See also <a href="https://wist.info/martial/63833/">10.61</a>.<br><br>

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<blockquote>Ye parents Fronto and Flaccilla here,<br>
<span class="tab">To you I do commend my girl, my dear,<br>
Lest pale Erotion tremble at the shades,<br>
<span class="tab">And the foul dog of hell's prodigious heads.<br>
Her age fulfilling just six winters was,<br>
<span class="tab">Had she but known so many days to pass.<br>
'Mongst you, old patrons, may she sport and play,<br>
<span class="tab">And with her lisping tongue my name oft say.<br>
May the smooth turf her soft bones hide, and be,<br>
<span class="tab">O earth, as light to her as she to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ye%20parents%20fronto%22&pg=PA239&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fronto, to thee, to thee, Flaccilla mild,<br>
<span class="tab">My darling I commend, your lively child.<br>
Oh! may no sable shades make her more pale,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor the Tartarean dog the Love assail.<br>
Six times the rig'rous solstice had the run,<br>
<span class="tab">Has she survey'd six times another sun.<br>
Mid her old patrons, may the prattler play;<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name, as in the realms of day.<br>
To her soft bones no turf oppressive be:<br>
<span class="tab">O earth lie light on her, who lay so light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA381&printsec=frontcover">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 9, ep. 18]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O my father, Fronto! and my mother, Flacilla! I commend to you, in the realm below, this damsel, my delight and the object of my kisses, lest Erotion be terrified at the dark shades, and at the enormous mouth of the dog of Tartarus. She would have completed her sixth winter if she had lived six days longer. May she continue her sportive ways under your reverend patronage, and may she garrulously stammer forth my name! May the turf lie lightly on her delicate bones; you ought not, O earth, to be heavy to her; she was not so to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22this+damsel%2C+my+delight%22">Amos</a> (1858) ep. 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, O Fronto my father, and to you, O Flaccilla my mother, I commend this child, the little Erotion, my joy and my delight, that she may not be terrified at the dark shades and at the monstrous mouth of the dog of Tartarus. She would just have passed the cold of a sixth winter, had she lived but six days longer. Between protectors so venerable may she sport and play, and with lisping speech babble my name. Let no rude turf cover her tender bones, and press not heavy on her, O earth; she pressed but lightly on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=To%20you%2C%20O,lightly%20on%20you.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you -- dun spectres to forefend<br>
And yon Tartarean monster dread -- <br>
This little maiden I commend,<br>
<span class="tab">Dead parents of my darling dead!<br>
Had only my Erotion's span<br>
While just so many days were told,<br>
Been lengthened out to dwell with man,<br>
<span class="tab">She had been then six winters old.<br>
Still sportive may she spend her days,<br>
And lisp my name with prattling tongue;<br>
Nor chide her little wanton ways,<br>
<span class="tab">Mid friends so old, and she so young.<br>
Soft be the turf that shrouds her bed,<br>
For delicate and soft was she.<br>
And, Earth, lie lightly o'er her head,<br>
<span class="tab">For light the steps she laid on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22dun+spectres%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mother and sire, to you do I commend<br>
<span class="tab">Tiny Erotion, who must now descend,<br>
A child, among the shadows, and appear<br>
<span class="tab">Before hell's bandog and hell's gondolier.<br>
Of six hoar winters she had felt the cold,<br>
<span class="tab">But lacked six days of being six years old.<br>
Now she must come, all playful, to that place<br>
<span class="tab">Where the great ancients sit with reverend face;<br>
Now lisping, as she used, of whence she came,<br>
<span class="tab">Perchance she names and stumbles at my name.<br>
O'er these so fragile bones, let there be laid<br>
<span class="tab">A plaything for a turf; and for that maid<br>
That ran so lightly footed in her mirth<br>
<span class="tab">Upon thy breast -- lie lightly, mother earth!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Poems,_by_Robert_Louis_Stevenson,_hitherto_unpublished/Here_lies_Erotion">Stevenson</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To thee, father Fronto, to thee, mother Flacilla, commend this maid, my sweetheart and my darling, that tiny Erotion may not shudder at the dark shades and the Tartarean hound's stupendous jaws. She would have completed only her sixth cold winter had she not lived as many days too few. Beside protectors so aged let her lightly play, and prattle my name with lisping tongue. And let not hard clods cover her tender bones, nor be though heavy upon her, O earth: she was not so to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22father%20fronto%22&pg=PA321&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou Mother dear and thou my Father's shade,<br>
<span class="tab">To you I now commit the gentle maid,<br>
Erotion, my little love, my sweet;<br>
<span class="tab">Let not her shuddering spirit fear to meet<br>
The ghosts, but soothe her lest she be afraid.<br>
<span class="tab">How should a baby heart be undismayed<br>
To pass the lair where Cerberus is laid?<br>
<span class="tab">The little six-year maiden gently greet.<br>
Dear reverend spirits, give her kindly aid<br>
<span class="tab">And let her play in some Elysian glade,<br>
<span class="tab">Lisping my name sometimes -- and, I entreat<br>
Lie on her softly, kind earth; her feet,<br>
<span class="tab">Such tiny feet, on thee were lightly laid.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22Erotion%2C+my+little+love%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Flaccilla, Fronto, take her as I write,<br>
<span class="tab">My precious darling and my soul's delight,<br>
Let not Erotion fear the shades around<br>
<span class="tab">And the fell jaws of the Tartarean hound.<br>
Had she but lived till six more days were told,<br>
<span class="tab">She had survived six winters and their cold.<br>
There let her play amidst our fellowship<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name with dainty stammering lip.<br>
Her gentle head, Earth, with soft mosses dress,<br>
<span class="tab">And as her footstep light be thy caress.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22flaccilla,%20fronto,%20take%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #240] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Mother Flaccilla, Fronto sire that's gone,<br>
<span class="tab">This darling pet of mine, Erotion,<br>
I pray ye greet, that nor the Land of Shade<br>
<span class="tab">Nor Hell-hound's maw shall fright my little maid.<br>
Full six chill winters would the child have seen<br>
<span class="tab">Had her life only six days longer been.<br>
Sweet child, with our lost friends to guard thee, play,<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name in thine own prattling way.<br>
Soft be the turf that shrouds her! Tenderly<br>
<span class="tab">Rest on her, earth, for she trod light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Mother%20Flaccilla%2C%20Fronto,light%20on%20thee.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To thee, my father, and to thee, my mother,<br>
<span class="tab">I recommend this darling little maid.<br>
Shield her from the dreadful hound of Hades,<br>
<span class="tab">Shield her from the dark infernal shades.<br>
She would have known the chill of six cold winters<br>
<span class="tab">Had she lived only six more little days.<br>
Amid such old defenders let her frolic<br>
<span class="tab">And babble my name as was her childish way.<br>
Lie lightly on her, earth, O lie not heavy<br>
<span class="tab">Upon her bones, for she was light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22to+thee+my+father%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Fronto, father, and mother Flaccilla,<br>
hold my darling Erotion firm in your memory:<br>
Don't let her diminutive soul shiver<br>
at the dusky shades of Hell<br>
or flinch at the monstrous mouth<br>
of the watchdog Tartarus.<br>
Had she lived six days longer,<br>
she would have seen her sixth winter solstice.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">She was always happy,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">always at ease<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">in the company of older people.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">I hope she will still, down there,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">be gaily lisping my name, in her afterlife.<br>
Oh green earth, rest lightly on her! Do not<br>
bear down too hard on her there, who was<br>
never a trouble or burden to you, here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/118/mode/2up?q=erotion">Bovie</a> (1970), "Erotion (1)"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, my parents, I send on<br>
<span class="tab">This little girl Erotion,<br>
The slave I loved, that by your side<br>
<span class="tab">Her ghost need not be terrified<br>
Of the pitch darkness underground<br>
<span class="tab">Or the great jaws of Hades' hound.<br>
This winter she would have completed<br>
<span class="tab">Her sixth year had she not been cheated<br>
By just six days. Lisping my name,<br>
<span class="tab">May she continue the sweet game<br>
Of childhood happily down there<br>
<span class="tab">In two such good, old spirits' care.<br>
Lie lightly on her, turf and dew;<br>
<span class="tab">She put so little weight on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/70/mode/2up?q=erotion">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, the shades of my begetters, Fronto <br>
and Flacilla, where you lie in sweet <br>
decay, I commend with love the body <br>
of my darling child Erotion.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A home-<br>
bred slave yet tender as a golden dormouse, <br>
rarer than the Phoenix, whiter than <br>
an unsmudged lily --<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">guide her spirit home <br>
so she may look for lights in Tartarus <br>
and miss the snapping jaws of hell-hound <br>
Cerberus. She’d have lived six shivering winters <br>
if she hadn’t died that many days before <br>
the anniversary.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Now let her play<br>
light-heartedly in the ever-darkened house <br>
beside such sure protectors.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">May my name<br>
be burbling on her tongue, the childish gift <br>
of sorrow spent on age.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And monumental earth, <br>
draw back eternal weight from her <br>
small bones;<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">don’t be severe and tread <br>
on her with gravity: she never did on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/336/mode/2up?q=%22shades+of+my+begetters%22">Porter</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote><em>Fronto</em>, Father, <em>Flacilla</em>, Mother, extend <br>
your protection from the Stygian shadows. <br>
The small <em>Erotion</em> (my household <em>Iris)</em> <br>
has changed my house for yours. See that the hell-<br>
hound's horrid jaws don't scare her, who was no<br> 
more than six years old (less six days) on the <br>
Winter day she died. She'll play beside you <br>
gossiping about me in child's language. <br>
Weigh lightly on her small bones, gentle earth, <br>
as she, when living, lightly trod on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=fronto%20father">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, father Fronto and mother Flaccilla, I commend this girl, my pet and darling. Little Erotion must not be frightened by the dark shades and the monstrous mouths of Tartarus' hound. She was due to complete the chills of a sixth midwinter, no more, if she had not lived that many days too few. Let her now play and frolic with her old patrons and lispingly chatter my name. Not hard be the turf that covers her soft bones, be not heavy upon her, earth; she was not heavy upon you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To your shades Fronto, and Flaccilla, this child<br>
I commend: she was my sweet and my delight.<br>
Little Erotion shall not fear the darkened shades<br>
nor the vast mouths of the Tartarean hound.<br>
She’d have completed her sixth chill winter,<br>
if she’d not lived a mere six days too few.<br>
Now let her frisk and play among old friends<br>
now let her chatter, and so lisp my name.<br>
And let the soft turf cover her brittle bones:<br>
earth, lie lightly on her: she lay lightly on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=To%20your%20shades,lightly%20on%20you.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, my parents Fronto and Flaccilla,<br>
I commend this girl, my darling and delight,<br>
Don't let the dark shades and the huge-mouthed hellhound<br>
<span class="tab">fill my small Erotion with fright.<br>
She would have known the chill of six midwinters<br>
had she survived by just as many days.<br>
Now let her lisping mouth prattle my name<br>
<span class="tab">to her old patrons, and she romps and plays.<br>
Let no hard turf hide her soft bones. Earth, do<br>
<span class="tab">not press her harshly; she was light on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22Fronto+and+Flaccilla%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

 


<blockquote>This girl, father Fronto and mother Flaccilla, I commit to your care, so that little Erotion, my pet and darling, may not tremble at the dark shades and at the monstrous mouths of the hound of Tartarus. She would have just seen out the frosts of her sixth midwinter, had her life not fallen that many days short. I hope she plays and skips now in her former patrons' keeping; I hope her hare-lip mumbles my name. Please let the turf that covers her bones not be hard, and, earth, be not heavy upon her, she was no weight on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22father%20fronto%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I commend you this slave girl, father Fronto, mother Flaccilla, as she was my delight and the object of my kisses. May little Erotion not fear the dark shades nor the vast mouths of the Tartarean dog. She would have completed her sixth cold winter if she'd not lived as many days too few. Now, let her play amid old friends, let her chatter and lisp my name. May the soft turf cover her brittle bones: earth, lie lightly on her, as she was not heavy on you.<br>
[<a href="http://blogumromanum.blogspot.com/2012/03/martial-epigram-5-34-translation.html#:~:text=I%20commend,on%20you">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, my departed parents, dear mother and father,<br>
<span class="tab">I commend my little lost angel, Erotion, love’s daughter.<br>
She fell a mere six days short of outliving her sixth frigid winter.<br>
<span class="tab">Protect her now, I pray, should the chilling dark shades appear;<br>
muzzle hell’s three-headed hound, lest her heart be dismayed!<br>
<span class="tab">Lead her to romp in some sunny Elysian glade,<br>
her devoted patrons. Watch her play childish games<br>
<span class="tab">as she excitedly babbles and lisps my name.<br>
Let no hard turf smother her softening bones; and do<br>
<span class="tab">rest lightly upon her, earth, she was surely no burden to you!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/14944085-Martial-translations-by-Michael-R.-Burch#:~:text=To%20you%2C%20my%20departed%20parents%2C%20dear%20mother%20and%20father">Burch</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Fromm, Erich -- &#8220;Medicine and the Ethical Problem of Modern Man,&#8221; The Dogma of Christ and Other Essays (1931)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced that boredom is one of the greatest tortures. If I were to imagine Hell, it would be the place where you were continually bored.</p>
<br><b>Erich Fromm</b> (1900-1980) American psychoanalyst and social philosopher<br>&#8220;Medicine and the Ethical Problem of Modern Man,&#8221; <i>The Dogma of Christ and Other Essays</i> (1931) 
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See <a href="https://wist.info/hugo-victor/1987/">Hugo</a> (1862).

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		<title>Jillette, Penn -- &#8220;A Gift of a Bible,&#8221; Penn Says, ep. 192 (9 Dec 2008)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ve always said, you know, that I don&#8217;t respect people that don&#8217;t proselytize. I don&#8217;t respect that at all. If you believe that there&#8217;s a heaven and hell, and people could be going to hell &#8212; or not getting eternal life, or whatever &#8212; and you think that, &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s not really worth tellin&#8217; &#8217;em this, because it would make it socially awkward.&#8221; And atheists who think that people shouldn&#8217;t proselytize, &#8220;Just leave me alone. Keep your religion to yourself.&#8221; How much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe that everlasting life is possible and not tell them that? </p>
<p>I mean, if I believe, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you and you didn&#8217;t believe it, that a truck was bearing down on you, there&#8217;s a certain point where I tackle you &#8212; and this is more important than that.</p>
<br><b>Penn Jillette</b> (b. 1955) American stage magician, actor, musician, author<br>&#8220;A Gift of a Bible,&#8221; <em>Penn Says</em>, ep. 192 (9 Dec 2008) 
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		<title>Marcus Aurelius -- Meditations, Book  2, #11 [tr. Gill (2014)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all your actions, words, and thoughts, be aware that it is possible that you may depart from life at any time. But leaving the human race is nothing to be afraid of, if the gods exist; they would not involve you in anything bad. And if they do not exist or have no concern for human affairs, why should I live in a universe empty of gods and empty of providence? But the gods do exist and have concern for human affairs and have placed it wholly in the power of human beings never to meet what is truly bad. </p>
<p>[Ὡς ἤδη δυνατοῦ ὄντος ἐξιέναι τοῦ βίου, οὕτως ἕκαστα ποιεῖν καὶ λέγειν καὶ διανοεῖσθαι. τὸ δὲ ἐξ ἀνθρώπων ἀπελθεῖν, εἰ μὲν θεοὶ εἰσίν, οὐδὲν δεινόν: κακῷ γάρ σε οὐκ ἂν περιβάλοιεν: εἰ δὲ ἤτοι οὐκ εἰσὶν ἢ οὐ μέλει αὐτοῖς τῶν ἀνθρωπείων, τί μοι ζῆν ἐν κόσμῳ κενῷ θεῶν ἢ προνοίας κενῷ; ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰσὶ καὶ μέλει αὐτοῖς τῶν ἀνθρωπείων καὶ τοῖς μὲν κατ̓ ἀλήθειαν κακοῖς ἵνα μὴ περιπίπτῃ ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ἐπ̓ αὐτῷ τὸ πᾶν ἔθεντο.]</p>
<br><b>Marcus Aurelius</b> (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher<br><i>Meditations</i>, Book  2, #11 [tr. Gill (2014)] 
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<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0562.tlg001.perseus-grc1:2.11.1">Original Greek</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Whatsoever thou dost affect, whatsoever thou dost project, so do, and so project all, as one who, for aught thou knowest, may at this very present depart out of this life. And as for death, if there be any gods, it is no grievous thing to leave the society of men. The gods will do thee no hurt, thou mayest be sure. But if it be so that there be no gods, or that they take no care of the world, why should I desire to live in a world void of gods, and of all divine providence? But gods there be certainly, and they take care for the world; and as for those things which be truly evil, as vice and. wickedness, such things they have put in a man's own power, that he might avoid them if he would.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus_-_His_Meditations_concerning_himselfe#THE_SECOND_BOOK:~:text=Whatsoever%20thou%20dost%20affect%2C%20whatsoever%20thou,might%20avoid%20them%20if%20he%20would">Casaubon</a> (1634), #8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Manage all your Actions and Thoughts in such a Manner as if you were just going to step into the Grave. And what great matter is the Business of Dying; if the Gods are in Being you can suffer nothing, for they'll do you no Harm, and if they are not, or take no Care of us Mortals, why then I must tell you, that a World without either Gods, or <i>Providence</i> is not worth a Man's while to live in. But there's no need of this Supposition; The Being of the Gods, and their Concern in Human Affairs is beyond Dispute. And as an Instance of this, They have put it in his Power not to fall into any Calamity properly so called.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Emperor_Marcus_Antoninus_His_Convers/vhW8otrnAwsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22manage%20all%20your%22&pg=PA179&printsec=frontcover">Collier</a> (1701)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since it is possible that thou mayest depart from life this very moment, regulate every act and thought accordingly. But to go away from among men, if there are gods, is not a thing to be afraid of, for the gods will not involve thee in evil; but if indeed they do not exist, or if they have no concern about human affairs, what is it to me to live in a universe devoid of gods or devoid of providence? But in truth they do exist, and they do care for human things, and they have put all the means in man's power to enable him not to fall into real evils.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Thoughts_of_the_Emperor_Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus/Book_II#cite_ref-2:~:text=.%20Since%20it%20is%20possible%5B3%5D%20that,not%20to%20fall%20into%20real%20evils.">Long</a> (1873 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Manage all your actions, words, and thoughts accordingly , since you may at any moment quit life. And what great matter is the business of dying? If the gods are in being, you can suffer  nothing, for they will do you no har. And if they are not, or take no care of us mortals -- why, then a world without either gods or Providence is not worth a man's while ot live in. But, in truth, the being of the gods, and their concern in human affairs, is beyond dispute. And they have put it entirely in a man's power not to fall into any calamity properly so-called.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Meditations_of_Marcus_Aurelius/5qcAEZZibB0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22manage%20all%20your%20actions%22&pg=PA27&printsec=frontcover">Zimmern</a> (1887)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whatever you do or say or think, it is in your power, remember, to take leave of life. In departing from this world, if indeed there are gods, there is nothing to be afraid of; for gods will not let you fall into evil. But if there are no gods, or if they do not concern themsleves with men, why live on in a world devoid of gods, or devoid of providence? But there do exist gods, who do concern themselves with men. And they have put it wholly in the power of man not to fall into any true evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus_to_Himself/0X2BxfXnXKcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22whatever%20you%20do%22&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover">Rendall</a> (1898 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let thine every deed and word and thought be those of a man who can depart from life this moment.[16] But to go away from among men, if there are Gods, is nothing dreadful ; for they would not involve thee in evil. But if indeed there are no Gods, or if they do not concern themselves with the affairs of men, what boots it for me to live in a Universe where there are no Gods, where Providence is not? Nay, but there <i>are</i> Gods, and they <i>do</i> concern themselves with human things;[17] and they have put it wholly in man's power not to fall into evils that are truly such.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/thestoiclife/the_teachers/maurcus-aurelius/meditations/02?authuser=0#h.p_ID_52:~:text=Let%20thine%20every%20deed%20and%20word,into%20evils%20that%20are%20truly%20such.">Haines</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In the conviction that it is possible you may depart from life at once, act and speak and think in every case accordingly. But to leave the company of men is nothing to fear, if gods exist; for they would not involve you in ill. If, however, they do not exist or if they take no care for man's affairs, why should I go on living in a world void of gods, or void of providence? But they do exist, and they do care for men's lives, and they have put it entirely in a man's power not to fall into real ills.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Meditations_of_the_Emperor_Marcus_Antoninus/Book_2#pageindex_119:~:text=In%20the%20conviction%20that%20it%20is,not%20to%20fall%20into%20real%20ills">Farquharson</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In all you do or say or think, recollect that at any time the power of withdrawal from life is in your hands. If gods exist, you have nothing to fear in taking leave of mankind, for they will not let you come to harm. But if there are no gods, or if they have no concern with mortal affairs, what is life to me, in a world devoid of gods or devoid of Providence? Gods, however, do exist, and do concern themselves with the world of men. They have given us full power not to fall into any of the absolute evils.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Meditations/WV7Teosv0bIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22in%20all%20you%20do%22&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover">Staniforth</a> (1964)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You could leave life right now. Let that determine what you do and say and think. If the gods exist, then to abandon human beings is not frightening; the gods would never subject you to harm. And if they don't exist, or don't care what happens to us, what would be the point of living in a world without gods or Providence? But they do exist, they do care what happens to us, and everything a person needs to avoid real harm they have placed within him.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Meditations/brSidvTKfcQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20could%20leave%20life%22&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover">Hays</a> (2003)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do, say, and think each thing as if it is possible to die right now. To leave the discussion of human affairs, if there are gods, it is nothing terrible -- for they would not ensnare you in evil. If, moreover, there are no gods -- or if the realms of men are not their concern -- why would I live in a universe emptied of gods or their foresight? No, there are gods and they are concerned with the affairs of men. And they have completely arranged it that the human race many not fall into evils that are truly evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2017/12/04/act-talk-think-like-you-might-die-right-now/#post-19078:~:text=Do%2C%20say%2C%20and%20think%20each%20thing,into%20evils%20that%20are%20truly%20evil.">@sentantiq</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Allen, Steve -- Steve Allen on the Bible, Religion, and Morality, &#8220;Hell&#8221; (1990)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who wish to punish others &#8212; or at least to see them punished, if the avengers are too cowardly to take matters into their own hands &#8212; the belief in a fiery, hideous hell appears to be a great source of comfort.</p>
<br><b>Steve Allen</b> (1922-2000) American composer, entertainer, and wit.<br><i>Steve Allen on the Bible, Religion, and Morality</i>, &#8220;Hell&#8221; (1990) 
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		<title>Paine, Thomas -- The Age of Reason, Part 1, Recapitulation (1794)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I trouble not myself about the manner of future existence. I content myself with believing, even to positive conviction, that the power that gave me existence is able to continue it, in any form and manner he pleases, either with or without this body; and it appears more probable to me that I shall continue [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trouble not myself about the manner of future existence. I content myself with believing, even to positive conviction, that the power that gave me existence is able to continue it, in any form and manner he pleases, either with or without this body; and it appears more probable to me that I shall continue to exist hereafter than that I should have had existence, as I now have, before that existence began.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Paine</b> (1737-1809) American political philosopher and writer<br><i>The Age of Reason</i>, Part 1, Recapitulation (1794) 
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		<title>Beecher, Henry Ward -- Life Thoughts [ed. E. Proctor] (1858)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the best you can where you are; and, when that is accomplished, God will open a door for you, and a voice will call, “Come up hither into a higher sphere.”</p>
<br><b>Henry Ward Beecher</b> (1813-1887) American clergyman and orator<br><i>Life Thoughts</i> [ed. E. Proctor] (1858) 
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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Good Omens, 6. &#8220;Saturday&#8221; [Adam] (1990) [with Neil Gaiman]</title>
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<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br><i>Good Omens</i>, 6. &#8220;Saturday&#8221; [Adam] (1990) [with Neil Gaiman] 
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		<title>Palahniuk, Chuck -- Damned, ch. 1 (2011)</title>
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<br><b>Chuck Palahniuk</b> (b. 1962) American novelist and freelance journalist<br><i>Damned</i>, ch. 1 (2011) 
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		<title>Napoleon Bonaparte -- Statement (4 Mar 1806)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not see in religion the mystery of the incarnation, but the mystery of the social order; religion attaches to heaven an idea of equality that stops the rich from being massacred by the poor. [Quant à moi, je ne vois pas dans la religion le mystère de l&#8217;incarnation, mais le mystère de l&#8217;ordre [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see in religion the mystery of the incarnation, but the mystery of the social order; religion attaches to heaven an idea of equality that stops the rich from being massacred by the poor.</p>
<p><em>[Quant à moi, je ne vois pas dans la religion le mystère de l&#8217;incarnation, mais le mystère de l&#8217;ordre social; elle rattache au ciel une idée d&#8217;égalité qui empêche que le riche ne soit massacré par le pauvre.]</em></p>
<br><b>Napoleon Bonaparte</b> (1769-1821) French emperor, military leader<br>Statement (4 Mar 1806) 
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Quoted in <em>Opinions de Napoléon sur divers sujets de politique et d'administration, recueillies par un membre de son conseil d'état</em> (1833).
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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Discworld No. 16, Soul Music (1994)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satchelmouth was by no means averse to the finger-foxtrot and the skull fandango, but he&#8217;d never murdered anyone, at least on purpose. Satchelmouth had been made aware that he had a soul and, though it had a few holes in it and was a little ragged around the edges, he cherished the hope that some [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satchelmouth was by no means averse to the finger-foxtrot and the skull fandango, but he&#8217;d never murdered anyone, at least on purpose. Satchelmouth had been made aware that he had a soul and, though it had a few holes in it and was a little ragged around the edges, he cherished the hope that some day the god Reg would find him a place in a celestial combo. You didn&#8217;t get the best gigs if you were a murderer. You probably had to play the viola.</p>
<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br>Discworld No. 16, <i>Soul Music</i> (1994) 
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		<title>Twain, Mark -- Quoted in Albert Bigelow Paine, Mark Twain: A Biography, Vol. 4, ch. 264 (1922)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As to a hereafter, we have not the slightest evidence that there is any &#8212; no evidence that appeals to logic and reason. I have never seen what to me seemed an atom of proof that there is a future life. And yet &#8212; I am strongly inclined to expect one.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to a hereafter, we have not the slightest evidence that there is any &#8212; <i>no</i> evidence that appeals to logic and reason. I have never seen what to me seemed an atom of proof that there is a future life. And yet &#8212; I am strongly inclined to expect one.</p>
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<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br>Quoted in Albert Bigelow Paine, <i>Mark Twain: A Biography</i>, Vol. 4, ch. 264 (1922) 
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		<title>McCarthy, Cormac -- Suttree (1979)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How surely are the dead beyond death. Death is what the living carry with them. A state of dread, like some uncanny foretaste of a bitter memory. But the dead do not remember and nothingness is not a curse. Far from it.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How surely are the dead beyond death. Death is what the living carry with them. A state of dread, like some uncanny foretaste of a bitter memory. But the dead do not remember and nothingness is not a curse. Far from it.</p>
<br><b>Cormac McCarthy</b> (1933-2023) American novelist, playwright, screenwriter<br><i>Suttree</i> (1979) 
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		<title>Greenwood, Kerry -- Phryne Fisher No.  8, Urn Burial (1996)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Far better that they are dead and with God, who will know how to deal with them. That is, after all,&#8221; Miss Mead said gravely, &#8220;what God is for.&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Kerry Greenwood</b> (b. 1954) Australian author and lawyer<br>Phryne Fisher No.  8, <i>Urn Burial</i> (1996) 
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		<title>Mencken, H. L. -- &#8220;What I Believe,&#8221; sec. 2, Forum and Century (Sep 1930)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The principle is surely not new in the world: everyone ought to know by this time that a mountebank, thinking only of tomorrow&#8217;s cakes, is far safer with power in his hands than a prophet and martyr, his eyes fixed frantically upon the rewards beyond the grave.</p>
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<br><b>H. L. Mencken</b> (1880-1956) American writer and journalist [Henry Lewis Mencken]<br>&#8220;What I Believe,&#8221; sec. 2, <i>Forum and Century</i> (Sep 1930) 
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		<title>Johnson, George Clayton -- Twilight Zone, 3&#215;16 &#8220;Nothing in the Dark&#8221; (5 Jan 1962)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEATH: You see. No shock. No engulfment. No tearing asunder. What you feared would come like an explosion is like a whisper. What you thought was the end is the beginning.</p>
<br><b>George Clayton Johnson</b> (1929-2015) American writer<br><i>Twilight Zone</i>, 3&#215;16 &#8220;Nothing in the Dark&#8221; (5 Jan 1962) 
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		<title>Twain, Mark -- Story (1868?), &#8220;Extract from Captain Stormfield&#8217;s Visit to Heaven,&#8221; Part 1, Harper&#8217;s Monthly Magazine, Vol. 116, No. 691 (1907-12)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You see, happiness ain&#8217;t a thing in itself &#8212; it&#8217;s only a contrast with something that ain&#8217;t pleasant. That&#8217;s all it is. There ain&#8217;t a thing you can mention that is happiness in its own self &#8212; it&#8217;s only so by contrast with the other thing. And so, as soon as the novelty is over [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, happiness ain&#8217;t a <i>thing in itself</i> &#8212; it&#8217;s only a <i>contrast</i> with something that ain&#8217;t pleasant. That&#8217;s all it is. There ain&#8217;t a thing you can mention that is happiness in its own self &#8212; it&#8217;s only so by contrast with the other thing. And so, as soon as the novelty is over and the force of the contrast dulled, it ain&#8217;t happiness any longer, and you have to get something fresh.</p>
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<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br>Story (1868?), &#8220;Extract from Captain Stormfield&#8217;s Visit to Heaven,&#8221; Part 1, <i>Harper&#8217;s Monthly Magazine</i>, Vol. 116, No. 691 (1907-12) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31210005199508&seq=63&q1=%22see,+happiness+ain%27t%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
										<br><br><span class="cite">
						

Sam Bartlett to the narrator about why there is pain and suffering in Heaven (so that there can be happiness as a contrast).<br><br>

First published in <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Extract_from_Captain_Stormfield%27s_Visit_to_Heaven/Chapter_I#:~:text=You%20see%2C%20happiness,get%20something%20fresh.">book form</a> in 1909. More about the writing and publishing history <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extract_from_Captain_Stormfield%27s_Visit_to_Heaven#Background">here</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Bronte, Anne -- &#8220;A Word to Calvinists&#8221; (28 May 1843)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, when you, looking on your fellow men<br />
Behold them doomed to endless misery,<br />
How can you talk of joy and rapture then?<br />
May God withhold such cruel joy from me!</p>
<br><b>Anne Brontë</b> (1820-1849) British novelist, poet [pseud. Acton Bell]<br>&#8220;A Word to Calvinists&#8221; (28 May 1843) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Letter to the Chicago Times (27 Mar 1890)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Letter to the <i>Chicago Times</i> (27 Mar 1890) 
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		<title>Gervais, Ricky -- &#8220;Why I&#8217;m an Atheist,&#8221; Wall Street Journal (19 Dec 2010)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Do unto others &#8230;&#8221; is a good rule of thumb. I live by that. Forgiveness is probably the greatest virtue there is. But that&#8217;s exactly what it is -­‐ a virtue. Not just a Christian virtue. No one owns being good. I&#8217;m good. I just don’t believe I&#8217;ll be rewarded for it in heaven. My [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do unto others &#8230;&#8221; is a good rule of thumb. I live by that. Forgiveness is probably the greatest virtue there is. But that&#8217;s exactly what it is -­‐ a virtue. Not just a Christian virtue. No one owns being good. I&#8217;m good. I just don’t believe I&#8217;ll be rewarded for it in heaven. My reward is here and now. It&#8217;s knowing that I try to do the right thing. That I lived a good life. And that&#8217;s where spirituality really lost its way. When it became a stick to beat people with. &#8220;Do this or you&#8217;ll burn in hell.&#8221; </p>
<p>You won&#8217;t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.</p>
<br><b>Ricky Gervais</b> (b. 1961) English comedian, actor, director, writer<br>&#8220;Why I&#8217;m an Atheist,&#8221; <i>Wall Street Journal</i> (19 Dec 2010) 
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- &#8220;The Weight of Glory,&#8221; sermon, Oxford University Church of St Mary the Virgin (8 Jun 1941)</title>
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<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br>&#8220;The Weight of Glory,&#8221; sermon, Oxford University Church of St Mary the Virgin (8 Jun 1941) 
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		<title>Richter, Jean-Paul -- Letter to Rector Werner (1781)</title>
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<br><b>Jean Paul Richter</b> (1763-1825) German writer, art historian, philosopher, littérateur [Johann Paul Friedrich Richter; pseud. Jean Paul]<br>Letter to Rector Werner (1781) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are fettered,&#8221; said Scrooge, trembling. &#8220;Tell me why?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I wear the chain I forged in life,&#8221; replied the Ghost. &#8220;I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it.&#8221;</p>
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<br><b>Charles Dickens</b> (1812-1870) English writer and social critic<br><i>A Christmas Carol</i> (1843) 
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		<title>Howard, Robert E. -- &#8220;Queen of the Black Coast&#8221; (1934)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[He shrugged his shoulders. &#8220;I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom&#8217;s realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He shrugged his shoulders. &#8220;I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom&#8217;s realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer&#8217;s Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Robert E. Howard</b> (1906-1936) American author<br>&#8220;Queen of the Black Coast&#8221; (1934) 
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- The Problem of Pain (1940)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The doors of Hell are locked on the inside. I do not mean that the ghosts may not wish to come out of Hell, in the vague fashion wherein an envious man &#8220;wishes&#8221; to be happy: but they certainly do not will even the first preliminary stages of that self-abandonment through which alone the soul [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doors of Hell are locked on the inside. I do not mean that the ghosts may not wish to come out of Hell, in the vague fashion wherein an envious man &#8220;wishes&#8221; to be happy: but they certainly do not will even the first preliminary stages of that self-abandonment through which alone the soul can reach any good. They enjoy forever the horrible freedom they have demanded, and are therefore self-enslaved: just as the blessed, forever submitting to obedience, become through all eternity more and more free.</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br><i>The Problem of Pain</i> (1940) 
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- &#8220;The Weight of Glory,&#8221; sermon, Oxford University Church of St Mary the Virgin (8 Jun 1941)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilisations &#8212; these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit &#8212; immortal horrors or everlasting splendours. This does [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no <i>ordinary people</i>. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilisations &#8212; these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit &#8212; immortal horrors or everlasting splendours. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn: We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously &#8212; no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption. And our charity must be a real and costly love, with deep feeling for the sins in spite of which we love the sinner &#8212; no mere tolerance, or indulgence which parodies love as flippancy parodies merriment. Next to the Blessed Sacrament itself, your neighbour is the holiest object presented to your senses. If he is your Christian neighbour, he is holy in almost the same way, for in him also Christ <i>vere latitat</i> &#8212; the glorifier and the glorified, Glory Himself, is truly hidden.</p>
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<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
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		<title>Lewis, Sinclair -- Elmer Gantry (1927)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160;&#160;&#160;&#8220;Even if some details of dogma aren&#8217;t true &#8212; or even all of &#8217;em &#8212; think what a consolation religion and the church are to weak humanity!&#8221; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#8220;Are they? I wonder! Don&#8217;t cheerful agnostics, who know they are going to die dead, worry much less than good Baptists, who worry lest their sons and cousins [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8220;Even if some details of dogma aren&#8217;t true &#8212; or even all of &#8217;em &#8212; think what a consolation religion and the church are to weak humanity!&#8221;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8220;Are they? I wonder! Don&#8217;t cheerful agnostics, who know they are going to die dead, worry much less than good Baptists, who worry lest their sons and cousins and sweethearts fail to get into the Baptist heaven &#8212; or what is even worse, who wonder if they may not have guessed wrong &#8212; if God may not be a Catholic, maybe, or a Mormon or Seventh-day Adventist instead of a Baptist, and then they&#8217;ll go to hell themselves. Consolation? No!&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Sinclair Lewis</b> (1885-1951) American novelist, playwright<br><i>Elmer Gantry</i> (1927) 
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- The Last Battle, final words (1956)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for us this is the end of all the stories, and we can most truly say that they all lived happily ever after. But for them it was only the beginning of the real story. All their life in this world and all their adventures in Narnia had only been the cover and the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for us this is the end of all the stories, and we can most truly say that they all lived happily ever after. But for them it was only the beginning of the real story. All their life in this world and all their adventures in Narnia had only been the cover and the title page: now at last they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story which no one on earth has read: which goes on forever: in which every chapter is better than the one before.</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- A Grief Observed (1961)</title>
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<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br><i>A Grief Observed</i> (1961) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to me about the truth of religion and I&#8217;ll listen gladly. Talk to me about the duty of religion and I&#8217;ll listen submissively. But don&#8217;t come talking to me about the consolations of religion or I shall suspect that you don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Unless, of course, you can literally believe all that stuff about family reunions &#8220;on the further shore,&#8221; pictured in entirely earthly terms. But that is all unscriptural, all out of bad hymns and lithographs. There&#8217;s not a word of it in the Bible. And it rings false. We <i>know</i> it couldn&#8217;t be like that. Reality never repeats. The exact same thing is never taken away and given back. How well the Spiritualists bait their hook! &#8220;Things on this side are not so different after all.&#8221; There are cigars in Heaven. For that is what we should all like. The happy past restored.</p>
<p>And that, just that, is what I cry out for, with mad, midnight endearments and entreaties spoken into the empty air.</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br><i>A Grief Observed</i> (1961) 
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider and act with reference to the true ends of existence. This world is but the vestibule of an immortal life. Every action of our lives touches on some chord that will vibrate in eternity. Quoted in Charles Northend, Memory Gems (1890). Variant: &#8220;Every action of your life touches on some chord that will vibrate [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider and act with reference to the true ends of existence. This world is but the vestibule of an immortal life. Every action of our lives touches on some chord that will vibrate in eternity.</p>
<br><b>Edwin Hubbell Chapin</b> (1814-1880) American clergyman<br>(Attributed) 
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Quoted in Charles Northend, <em>Memory Gems</em> (1890).<br><br>

Variant: "Every action of your life touches on some chord that will vibrate in eternity." ["Advice to the Young," quoted in Charles W. Sanders, <em>Sanders' Union Fourth Reader</em> (1873)]
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- The Last Battle, ch. 15 (1956)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the Unicorn who summed up what everyone was feeling. He stamped his right fore-hoof on the ground and neighed, and then cried: &#8220;I have come home at last! This is my real country! I belong here. This is the land I have been looking for all my life, though I never knew it [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the Unicorn who summed up what everyone was feeling. He stamped his right fore-hoof on the ground and neighed, and then cried: &#8220;I have come home at last! This is my real country! I belong here. This is the land I have been looking for all my life, though I never knew it till now. The reason why we loved the old Narnia is that it sometimes looked a little like this. Bree-hee-hee! Come further up, come further in!&#8221;</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br><i>The Last Battle</i>, ch. 15 (1956) 
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		<title>Chateaubriand, Francois-Rene -- Memoirs from Beyond the Grave [Mémoires d&#8217;Outre-Tombe], Book 42, ch. 18 (1848-1850) [tr. Kline]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How small man is on this little atom where he dies! But how great his intelligence! He knows when the face of the stars must be masked in darkness, when the comets will return after thousands of years, he who lasts only an instant! A microscopic insect lost in a fold of the heavenly robe, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How small man is on this little atom where he dies! But how great his intelligence! He knows when the face of the stars must be masked in darkness, when the comets will return after thousands of years, he who lasts only an instant! A microscopic insect lost in a fold of the heavenly robe, the orbs cannot hide from him a single one of their movements in the depth of space. What destinies will those stars, new to us, light? Is their revelation bound up with some new phase of humanity? You will know, race to be born; I know not, and I am departing.</p>
<br><b>François-René de Chateaubriand</b> (1768-1848) French writer, politican, diplomat<br><i>Memoirs from Beyond the Grave [Mémoires d&#8217;Outre-Tombe]</i>, Book 42, ch. 18 (1848-1850) [tr. Kline] 
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		<title>Russell, Bertrand -- Autobiography, Vol 2: 1914-1944, ch.  3 &#8220;China&#8221; (1969)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was told that the Chinese said they would bury me by the Western Lake and build a shrine to my memory. I have some slight regret that this did not happen, as I might have become a god, which would have been very chic for an atheist. Russell visited China, and lectured there, in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told that the Chinese said they would bury me by the Western Lake and build a shrine to my memory. I have some slight regret that this did not happen, as I might have become a god, which would have been very <em>chic</em> for an atheist.</p>
<br><b>Bertrand Russell</b> (1872-1970) English mathematician and philosopher<br><i>Autobiography, Vol 2: 1914-1944</i>, ch.  3 &#8220;China&#8221; (1969) 
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Russell visited China, and lectured there, in late 1920; his bout with pneumonia (which led to the above) happened in Spring 1921.
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		<title>Bovee, Christian Nestell -- Intuitions and Summaries of Thought, Vol. 1, &#8220;Authors&#8221; (1862)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is probably no hell for authors in the next world &#8212; they suffer so much from critics and publishers in this.</p>
<br><b>Christian Nestell Bovee</b> (1820-1904) American epigrammatist, writer, publisher<br><i>Intuitions and Summaries of Thought</i>, Vol. 1, &#8220;Authors&#8221; (1862) 
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		<title>Franklin, Benjamin -- Letter to Ezra Stiles (9 Mar 1790)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my Creed: I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we can render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my Creed: I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we can render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental Principles of all sound Religion, and I regard them as you do, in whatever Sect I meet with them.</p>
<br><b>Benjamin Franklin</b> (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist<br>Letter to Ezra Stiles (9 Mar 1790) 
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Letter (1813-09-18) to William Canby</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe, with the Quaker preacher, that he who steadily observes those moral precepts in which all religions concur, will never be questioned, at the gates of heaven, as to the dogmas in which they all differ. That on entering there, all these are left behind us, and the Aristideses &#038; Cato’s, the Penns &#038; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe, with the Quaker preacher, that he who steadily observes those moral precepts in which all religions concur, will never be questioned, at the gates of heaven, as to the dogmas in which they all differ. That on entering there, all these are left behind us, and the Aristideses &#038; Cato’s, the Penns &#038; Tillotsons, Presbyterians and Papists, will find themselves united in all principles which are in concert with the reason of the supreme mind.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Letter (1813-09-18) to William Canby 
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		<title>Milton, John -- &#8220;Lycidas,&#8221; l. 193 (1638)</title>
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<br><b>John Milton</b> (1608-1674) English poet<br>&#8220;Lycidas,&#8221; l. 193 (1638) 
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		<title>Jobs, Steve -- (Attrbuted)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes I don’t. I think it’s 50-50 maybe. But ever since I&#8217;ve had cancer, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it more. And I find myself believing a bit more. I kind of &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s ’cause I want to believe in an afterlife. That when you die, it doesn&#8217;t just all [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes I don’t. I think it’s 50-50 maybe. But ever since I&#8217;ve had cancer, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it more. And I find myself believing a bit more. I kind of &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s ’cause I want to believe in an afterlife. That when you die, it doesn&#8217;t just all disappear. The wisdom you&#8217;ve accumulated. Somehow it lives on, but sometimes I think it&#8217;s just like an on-off switch. Click and you’re gone. And that’s why I don’t like putting on-off switches on Apple devices.</p>
<br><b>Steve Jobs</b> (1955-2011) American computer inventor, entrepreneur<br>(Attrbuted) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;The Great Infidels&#8221; (1881)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved &#8212; cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved &#8212; cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and redeemed will drown with shouts of joy the cries and sobs of hell &#8212; in which happiness will forget misery, where the tears of the lost only increase laughter and double bliss.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;The Great Infidels&#8221; (1881) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec.  9 (1880)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heaven is where those are we love, and those who love us. And I wish to go to no world unless I can be accompanied by those who love me here. Talk about the consolations of this infamous doctrine. The consolations of a doctrine that makes a father say, &#8220;I can be happy with my [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heaven is where those are we love, and those who love us. And I wish to go to no world unless I can be accompanied by those who love me here. Talk about the consolations of this infamous doctrine. The consolations of a doctrine that makes a father say, &#8220;I can be happy with my daughter in hell;&#8221; that makes a mother say, &#8220;I can be happy with my generous, brave boy in hell;&#8221; that makes a boy say, &#8220;I can enjoy the glory of heaven with the woman who bore me, the woman who would have died for me, in eternal agony.&#8221; And they call that tidings of great joy.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec.  9 (1880) 
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		<title>Paine, Thomas -- The Age of Reason, Part 1, ch. 1 (1794)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life. I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavouring to make our fellow-creatures happy. But, lest it should be supposed that I believe many other things in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life.</p>
<p>I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavouring to make our fellow-creatures happy.</p>
<p>But, lest it should be supposed that I believe many other things in addition to these, I shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things I do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.</p>
<p>I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.</p>
<p>All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Paine</b> (1737-1809) American political philosopher and writer<br><i>The Age of Reason</i>, Part 1, ch. 1 (1794) 
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		<title>Barrie, James -- The Little Minister, ch.  3 &#8220;The Night-Watchers&#8221; [Jo Cruickshanks] (1891)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it&#8217;s heaven for climate, it&#8217;s hell for company. A similar quote is cited to Mark Twain at about the same time. More research into this quotation can be found here: Heaven for the Climate, and Hell for the Company – Quote Investigator®.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s heaven for climate, it&#8217;s hell for company.</p>
<br><b>J. M. Barrie</b> (1860-1937) Scottish novelist and dramatist [James Matthew Barrie]<br><i>The Little Minister</i>, ch.  3 &#8220;The Night-Watchers&#8221; [Jo Cruickshanks] (1891) 
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A similar quote is cited to Mark Twain at about the same time. More research into this quotation can be found here: <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/19/heaven-for-climate/">Heaven for the Climate, and Hell for the Company – Quote Investigator®</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Bacon, Francis -- &#8220;Of Death,&#8221; Essays, No. 2 (1625)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased with tales, so is the other.</p>
<br><b>Francis Bacon</b> (1561-1626) English philosopher, scientist, author, statesman<br>&#8220;Of Death,&#8221; <i>Essays</i>, No. 2 (1625) 
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		<title>Gaiman, Neil -- Sandman, Book  6. Fables and Reflections, # 31 &#8220;Three Septembers and a January&#8221; (1991-10)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[NORTON I: I must confess, I have always wondered what lay beyond life, my dear. DEATH: Yeah, everybody wonders. And sooner or later everybody gets to find out.]]></description>
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<p class="hangingindent">NORTON I: I must confess, I have <em>always</em> wondered what lay beyond life, my dear.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">DEATH: Yeah, <em>everybody</em> wonders. And sooner or later everybody gets to find out.</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>Neil Gaiman</b> (b. 1960) British author, screenwriter, fabulist<br><i>Sandman, Book  6. Fables and Reflections</i>, # 31 &#8220;Three Septembers and a January&#8221; (1991-10) 
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		<title>Rice, Grantland -- &#8220;Alumnus Football,&#8221; l. 63ff (1908)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes &#8212; not that you won or lost &#8212; but how you played the Game. Often paraphrased, &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.&#8221; For more information on variations in this poem, and quotations from [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name,<br />
He writes &#8212; not that you won or lost &#8212; but how you played the Game.</p>
<br><b>Grantland Rice</b> (1880-1954) American sportswriter<br>&#8220;Alumnus Football,&#8221; l. 63ff (1908) 
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Often paraphrased, "It doesn't matter whether you win or lose, but how you play the game."<br><br>

For more information on variations in this poem, and quotations from it, see <a href="https://deadspin.com/5821795/close-reading-did-grantland-rice-misquote-grantland-rices-most-famous-quote">here</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Straczynski, J. Michael "Joe" -- Usenet, rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5, &#8220;JMS on Compuserve: Gesthemane Questions&#8221; (1995-12-04)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an atheist, I believe that all life is unspeakably precious, because it&#8217;s only here for a brief moment, a flare against the dark, and then it&#8217;s gone forever. No afterlives, no second chances, no backsies. So there can be nothing crueler than the abuse, destruction or wanton taking of a life. It is a [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an atheist, I believe that all life is unspeakably precious, because it&#8217;s only here for a brief moment, a flare against the dark, and then it&#8217;s gone forever. No afterlives, no second chances, no backsies. So there can be nothing crueler than the abuse, destruction or wanton taking of a life. It is a crime no less than burning the Mona Lisa, for there is always just one of each. </p>
<p>So I cannot forgive. Which makes the notion of writing a character who CAN forgive momentarily attractive &#8230; because it allows me to explore in great detail something of which I am utterly incapable.</p>
<br><b>J. Michael (Joe) Straczynski</b> (b. 1954) American screenwriter, producer, author [a/k/a "JMS"]<br>Usenet, <i>rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5</i>, &#8220;JMS on Compuserve: Gesthemane Questions&#8221; (1995-12-04) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;What Must We Do to Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;What Must We Do to Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880) 
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- Hamlet, Act 3, sc. 1, l.  84ff (3.1.84-90) (c. 1600)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[HAMLET:Who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscovered country from whose bourn No traveler returns, puzzles the will And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? &#8220;Fardels&#8221; = &#8220;burdens&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">HAMLET:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Who would fardels bear,<br />
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,<br />
But that the dread of something after death,<br />
The undiscovered country from whose bourn<br />
No traveler returns, puzzles the will<br />
And makes us rather bear those ills we have<br />
Than fly to others that we know not of?</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p></p>
<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Hamlet</i>, Act 3, sc. 1, l.  84ff (3.1.84-90) (c. 1600) 
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"Fardels" = "burdens"
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		<title>Smith, Sydney -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My idea of heaven is eating pâté de foie gras to the sound of trumpets. In Hesketh Pearson, The Smith of Smiths, ch. 10 (1934).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My idea of heaven is eating <em>pâté de foie gras</em> to the sound of trumpets.</p>
<br><b>Sydney Smith</b> (1771-1845) English clergyman, essayist, wit<br>(Attributed) 
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In Hesketh Pearson, <i>The Smith of Smiths</i>, ch. 10 (1934).
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		<title>Twain, Mark -- Letter to W.D. Howells (2 Apr 1899)</title>
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<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br>Letter to W.D. Howells (2 Apr 1899) 
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		<title>Smith, Sydney -- Letter (1842-09-13) to Lady Holland</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a bore, I admit, to be past seventy, for you are left for execution, and are daily expecting the death-warrant; but, as you say, it is not anything very capital we quit. We are, at the close of life, only hurried away from stomach-aches, pains in the joints, from sleepless nights and unamusing days, from weakness, ugliness, and nervous tremors; but we shall all meet again in another planet, cured of all our defects.</p>
<br><b>Sydney Smith</b> (1771-1845) English clergyman, essayist, wit<br>Letter (1842-09-13) to Lady Holland 
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		<title>Einstein, Albert -- &#8220;What I Believe,&#8221; Forum and Century (Oct 1930)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own &#8212; a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature.</p>
<br><b>Albert Einstein</b> (1879-1955) German-American physicist<br>&#8220;What I Believe,&#8221; <i>Forum and Century</i> (Oct 1930) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Einstein_on_Politics/7mmYDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Past%20thinking%20and%20methods%22&pg=PA230&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22cannot%20imagine%20a%20God%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Einstein crafted and recrafted his credo multiple times in this period, and specifics are often muddled by differing translations and by his reuse of certain phrases in later writing. The <i>Forum and Century</i> entry appears to be the earliest. Some important variants:<br><br> 

<blockquote>I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither ca I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with they mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.<br><br>
— "The World As I See It <i>[Mein Weltbild]</i> [tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ideas_and_Opinions/9fJkBqwDD3sC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cannot%20conceive%20of%20a%20God%22&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover">Bargmann</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br><br>

<blockquote>I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. Enough for me the mystery of the eternity of life, and the inkling of the marvellous structure of reality, together with the single-hearted endeavor to comprehend a portion, be it never so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.<br><br>
— "The World As I See It <i>[Mein Weltbild]</i> [tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_World_as_I_See_It/Ved_DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20cannot%20conceive%20of%20a%20god%22&dq=einstein%20%22most%20beautiful%20experience%20we%20can%20have%22&pg=PT19&printsec=frontcover">Harris</a> (1934)]</blockquote><br><br>

<blockquote>To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all there is.<br><br>

<em>[Es ist mir genug, diese Geheimnisse staunend zu ahnen und zu versuchen, von der erhabenen Struktur des Seienden in Demut ein mattes Abbild geistig zu erfassen.]</em><br><br>

— <a href="https://www.einstein-website.de/z_biography/credo.html#table6:~:text=Es%20ist%20mir%20genug%2C%20diese%20Geheimnisse,ein%20mattes%20Abbild%20geistig%20zu%20erfassen.%22">Reduced variant</a> in "My Credo <i>Mein Glaubensbekenntnis]"</i> (Aug 1932)</blockquote>
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		<title>Alcott, Louisa May -- Little Women, ch. 13 [Beth] (1868)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If people really want to go, and really try all their lives, I think they will get in; for I don’t believe there are any locks on that door, or any guards at the gate. I always imagine it is as it is in the picture, where the shining ones stretch out their hands to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people really want to go, and really try all their lives, I think they will get in; for I don’t believe there are any locks on that door, or any guards at the gate. I always imagine it is as it is in the picture, where the shining ones stretch out their hands to welcome poor Christian as he comes up from the river.</p>
<br><b>Louisa May Alcott</b> (1832-1888) American writer<br><i>Little Women</i>, ch. 13 [Beth] (1868) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;The Liberty of Man, Woman, and Child&#8221; (1877)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there is a God who will damn his children forever, I would rather go to hell than to go to heaven and keep the society of such an infamous tyrant. I make my choice now. I despise that doctrine. It has covered the cheeks of this world with tears. It has polluted the hearts [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a God who will damn his children forever, I would rather go to hell than to go to heaven and keep the society of such an infamous tyrant. I make my choice now. I despise that doctrine. It has covered the cheeks of this world with tears. It has polluted the hearts of children, and poisoned the imaginations of men.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;The Liberty of Man, Woman, and Child&#8221; (1877) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C.</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had rather live and love where death is king, than have eternal life where love is not. Another life is nought, unless we know and love again the ones who love us here.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C. 
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Eulogy at the burial of Harry Miller.						</span>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;The Great Infidels&#8221; (1881)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell? Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell? Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;The Great Infidels&#8221; (1881) 
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		<title>Sagan, Carl -- &#8220;In the Valley of the Shadow,&#8221; Parade (10 Mar 1996)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there&#8217;s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there&#8217;s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.</p>
<br><b>Carl Sagan</b> (1934-1996) American scientist and writer<br>&#8220;In the Valley of the Shadow,&#8221; <i>Parade</i> (10 Mar 1996) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;What Must We Do to Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have made up my mind that if there is a God, he will be merciful to the merciful. Upon that rock I stand. That he will not torture the forgiving. Upon that rock I stand. That every man should be true to himself, and that there is no world, no star, in which honesty [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made up my mind that if there is a God, he will be merciful to the merciful.<br />
Upon that rock I stand.<br />
That he will not torture the forgiving.<br />
Upon that rock I stand.<br />
That every man should be true to himself, and that there is no world, no star, in which honesty is a crime.<br />
Upon that rock I stand.<br />
The honest man, the good woman, the happy child, have nothing to fear, either in this world or the world to come.<br />
Upon that rock I stand.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;What Must We Do to Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880) 
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should we fear that which will come to all that is? We cannot tell, we do not know, which is the greater blessing &#8212; life or death. We do not know whether the grave is the end of this life, or the door of another, or whether the night here is not somewhere else [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should we fear that which will come to all that is? We cannot tell, we do not know, which is the greater blessing &#8212; life or death. We do not know whether the grave is the end of this life, or the door of another, or whether the night here is not somewhere else at dawn. Neither can we tell which is the more fortunate &#8212; the child dying in its mother&#8217;s arms, before its lips have learned to form a word, or he who journeys all the length of life&#8217;s uneven road, painfully taking the last slow steps with staff and crutch.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C. 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38812/old/orig38812-h/main.htm#link0040:~:text=Why%20should%20we%20fear,with%20staff%20and%20crutch." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Eulogy at the burial of Harry Miller.
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why should she show mercy to a kind and noble heretic whom her God will burn in eternal fire? Why should a Christian be better than his God?</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Alink0006:~:text=Give%20any%20orthodox,than%20his%20God%3F" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The dead do not suffer. And if they live again, their lives will surely be as good as ours. We have no fear. We are all children of the same mother, and the same fate awaits us all. We, too, have our religion, and it is this: Help for the living, Hope for the dead. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dead do not suffer. And if they live again, their lives will surely be as good as ours. We have no fear. We are all children of the same mother, and the same fate awaits us all. We, too, have our religion, and it is this: Help for the living, Hope for the dead.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C. 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38812/old/orig38812-h/main.htm#link0040:~:text=The%20dead%20do%20not%20suffer.%20If%20they%20live%20again%2C%20their%20lives%20will%20surely%20be%20as%20good%20as%20ours.%20We%20have%20no%20fear.%20We%20are%20all%20children%20of%20the%20same%20mother%2C%20and%20the%20same%20fate%20awaits%20us%20all.%20We%2C%20too%2C%20have%20our%20religion%2C%20and%20it%20is%20this%3A%20Help%20for%20the%20living%E2%80%94Hope%20for%20the%20dead." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Eulogy at the burial of Harry Miller.
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		<title>Omar Khayyam -- Rubáiyát [رباعیات], Bod. #  26 [tr. FitzGerald, 3rd ed. (1872), # 74]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[YESTERDAY This Day&#8217;s Madness did prepare; TO-MORROW&#8217;S Silence, Triumph, or Despair: Drink! for you know not whence you came, nor why: Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where. FitzGerald used the same text for subsequent editions. Alternate translations: Ah, fill the Cup: &#8212; what boots it to repeat How Time is slipping [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YESTERDAY <i>This</i> Day&#8217;s Madness did prepare;<br />
TO-MORROW&#8217;S Silence, Triumph, or Despair:<br />
<span class="tab">Drink! for you know not whence you came, nor why:<br />
Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where.</span></p>
<br><b>Omar Khayyám </b> (1048-1123) Persian poet, mathematician, philosopher, astronomer [عمر خیام]<br><i>Rubáiyát</i> [رباعیات], Bod. #  26 [tr. FitzGerald, 3rd ed. (1872), # 74] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_3rd_edition)#:~:text=YESTERDAY%20This%20Day%27s%20Madness%20did%20prepare%3B%0ATO%2DMORROW%27S%20Silence%2C%20Triumph%2C%20or%20Despair%3A%0ADrink!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20whence%20you%20came%2C%20nor%20why%3A%0ADrink!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20why%20you%20go%2C%20nor%20where." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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FitzGerald used the same text for subsequent editions.<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Ah, fill the Cup: -- what boots it to repeat<br>
How Time is slipping underneath our Feet:<br>
<span class="tab">Unborn To-morrow and dead Yesterday,<br>
Why fret about them if To-day be sweet!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_1st_edition)/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam#:~:text=Ah%2C%20fill%20the,day%20be%20sweet!">FitzGerald</a>, 1st ed. (1859), # 37]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yesterday This Day's Madness did prepare;<br>
To-morrow's Silence, Triumph, or Despair:<br>
<span class="tab">Drink! for you know not whence you came, nor why:<br>
Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Fitzgerald,_2nd_edition)#:~:text=Yesterday%20This%20Day%27s%20Madness%20did%20prepare%3B%0ATo%2Dmorrow%27s%20Silence%2C%20Triumph%2C%20or%20Despair%3A%0ADrink!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20whence%20you%20came%2C%20nor%20why%3A%0A.Drink!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20why%20you%20go%2C%20nor%20where.">FitzGerald</a>, 2nd ed. (1868), # 80]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Be on your guard, my friend, for you will be sundered from your soul, you will pass behind the curtain of the secrets of heaven. Drink wine, for you know not whence you come. Be merry, for you know not where you go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/100/mode/2up?q=%22be+on+your+guard%22">McCarthy</a> (1879), # 180]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O soul, so soon to leave this coil below,<br>
And pass the dread mysterious curtain through,<br>
<span class="tab">Be of good cheer, and joy you while you may, <br>
You wot not whence you come, nor whither go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22O+sott+%2C+so+soon+to+leave%22">Whinfield</a> (1882), # 40]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Make haste! soon must you quit this life below, <br>
And pass the veil, and Allah's secrets know;<br>
<span class="tab">Make haste to take your pleasure while you may, <br>
You wot not whence you come, nor whither go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubiytofomark00omar/page/162/mode/2up?q=%22quit+this+life+below%22">Whinfield</a> (1883), # 48 or <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Quatrains_of_Omar_Khayyam_(tr._Whinfield,_1883)/Quatrains_1-100#:~:text=Make%20haste!%20soon%20must%20you%20quit%20this%20life%20below%2C%0AAnd%20pass%20the%20veil%2C%20and%20Allah%27s%20secrets%20know%3B%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Make%20haste%20to%20take%20your%20pleasure%20while%20you%20may%2C%0AYou%20wot%20not%20whence%20you%20come%2C%20nor%20whither%20go.">87</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah Brother, but a little while, and Thou shalt find<br>
Thy Lasting Home the 'Secret Veil' behind; --<br>
<span class="tab">Rejoice Thy Heart and banish Grief, for know, --<br>
Thy source, Thy Goal, has never been defined.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/rubaiyatofomarkh01omar/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22ah+brother+but%22">Garner</a> (1887), 7.8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, brother, but a little while and thou shalt find<br>
Eternal rest, the secret veil behind;<br>
<span class="tab">Rejoice thy heart and banish grief, for know --<br>
Thy source, thy goal, has never been divined.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/garner---1898.html#:~:text=Ah%2C%20brother%2C%20but%20a%20little%20while%20and%20thou%20shalt%20find%0AEternal%20rest%2C%20the%20secret%20veil%20behind%3B%0ARejoice%20thy%20heart%20and%20banish%20grief%2C%20for%20know%20%2D%0AThy%20source%2C%20thy%20goal%2C%20has%20never%20been%20divined.">Garner</a> (1898), # 148]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis a strange world we came to, You and I,<br>
Whence no man knows, and surely none knows why,<br>
<span class="tab">Why we remain -- a harder question still,<br>
And still another -- whither when we die?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Rub%C3%A1iy%C3%A1t_of_Omar_Khayy%C3%A1m_(Le_Gallienne)/Rub%C3%A1iy%C3%A1t_of_Omar_Khayy%C3%A1m#:~:text=%27Tis%20a%20strange%20world%20we%20came%20to%2C%20You%20and%20I%2C%0AWhence%20no%20man%20knows%2C%20and%20surely%20none%20knows%20why%2C%0AWhy%20we%20remain%E2%80%94a%20harder%20question%20still%2C%0AAnd%20still%20another%E2%80%94whither%20when%20we%20die%3F">Le Gallienne</a> (1897)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bethink thee that soulless and bare thou shalt go;<br>
The veil of God's mysteries to tear thou shalt go:<br>
<span class="tab">Drink wine, for thou knowest not whence thou hast come;<br>
Live blithe, for thou knowest not where thou shalt go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/payne---1898.html#:~:text=Bethink%20thee%20that%20soulless%20and%20bare%20thou%20shalt%20go%3B%0AThe%20veil%20of%20God%27s%20mysteries%20to%20tear%20thou%20shalt%20go%3A%0ADrink%20wine%2C%20for%20thou%20knowest%20not%20whence%20thou%20hast%20come%3B%0ALive%20blithe%2C%20for%20thou%20knowest%20not%20where%20thou%20shalt%20go.">Payne</a> (1898), # 188]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Know this --- that from thy soul thou shalt be separated, <br>
thou shalt pass behind the curtain of the secrets of God. <br>
<span class="tab">Be happy -- thou knowest not whence thou hast come: <br>
drink wine - thou knowest not whither thou shalt go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n13/mode/2up?q=%22Know+this+-+that+from%22">Heron-Allen</a> (1898), # 26] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou shalt be parted from thy soul, and then,<br>
Enter God's veil of mystery again;<br>
<span class="tab">Be glad! For whence you came you do not know;<br>
Drink! For you wist as little where you go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/cadell---1899.html#:~:text=Thou%20shalt%20be%20parted%20from%20thy%20soul%2C%20and%20then%2C%0AEnter%20God%27s%20veil%20of%20mystery%20again%3B%0ABe%20glad!%20For%20whence%20you%20came%20you%20do%20not%20know%3B%0ADrink!%20For%20you%20wist%20as%20little%20where%20you%20go.">Cadell</a> (1899), # 26]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Soon shall you bid farewell to mortal tie;<br>
Soon shall you read life's deepest mystery.<br>
<span class="tab">Drink, for you know not when you go, nor where;<br>
Drink, for you know not whence you came, nor why.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/roe---1906.html#:~:text=Soon%20shall%20you%20bid%20farewell%20to%20mortal%20tie%3B%0ASoon%20shall%20you%20read%20life%27s%20deepest%20mystery.%0ADrink%2C%20for%20you%20know%20not%20when%20you%20go%2C%20nor%20where%3B%0ADrink%2C%20for%20you%20know%20not%20whence%20you%20came%2C%20nor%20why.">Roe</a> (1906), # 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since from your soul you separate, then know<br>
Behind God's secret veil you will go, too;<br>
<span class="tab">Drink wine! for you know not whence you have come;<br>
Be jocund! for you know not where you go!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/thompson---1906.html#:~:text=Since%20from%20your%20soul%20you%20separate%2C%20then%20know%0ABehind%20God%27s%20secret%20veil%20you%20will%20go%2C%20too%20%3B%0ADrink%20wine!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20whence%20you%20have%20come%3B%0ABe%20jocund%20!%20for%20you%20know%20not%20where%20you%20go!">Thompson</a> (1906), # 136]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Know this, that soon thou diest, and thy soul <br>
The Book of God's Great Secret must unroll; <br>
<span class="tab">Be happy! knowing not whence thou hast come, <br>
Nor whither thou shalt go. Drink out the Bowl!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/proseandverse_heronallen_talbot_rubaiyatofomarkhayyam_text/page/n13/mode/2up?q=%22Know+this%2C+that+soon%22">Talbot</a> (1908), # 26]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Know that thou shalt depart, deprived of thy soul; thou<br>
shalt go behind the veil of the mystery of annihilation.<br>
<span class="tab">Drink wine: thou knowest not whence thou art come.<br>
Be merry! thou knowest not whither thou shalt go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/christensen---1927.html#:~:text=Know%20that%20thou%20shalt%20depart%2C%20deprived%20of%20thy%20soul%3B%20thou%0Ashalt%20go%20behind%20the%20veil%20of%20the%20mystery%20of%20annihilation.%0ADrink%20wine%3A%20thou%20knowest%20not%20whence%20thou%20art%20come.%0ABe%20merry!%20thou%20knowest%20not%20whither%20thou%20shalt%20go.">Christensen</a> (1927), # 15]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ye go from soul asunder this ye know,<br>
And that ye creep, behind His curtain low;<br>
<span class="tab">Hence sing His Name, ye know not whence ye came,<br>
And live sedate, ye know not where to go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://rubaiyatconcordance.org/translations/tirtha---1941.html#:~:text=Ye%20go%20from%20soul%20asunder%20this%20ye%20know%2C%0AAnd%20that%20ye%20creep%2C%20behind%20His%20curtain%20low%3B%0AHence%20sing%20His%20Name%2C%20ye%20know%20not%20whence%20ye%20came%2C%0AAnd%20live%20sedate%2C%20ye%20know%20not%20where%20to%20go.">Tirtha</a> (1941), 9.99]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What, without asking, hither hurried whence?<br>
And, without asking, whither hurried hence!<br>
<span class="tab">Another and another cup to drown<br>
The Memory of this impertinence.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Original_Rubaiyyat_of_Omar_Khayaam/4XGBAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=whither">Graves & Ali-Shah</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Fuller, Thomas (1654) -- Gnomologia: Adages and Proverbs (compiler), # 2481 (1732)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heaven is a cheap Purchase, whatever it cost.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Fuller</b> (1654-1734) English physician, preacher, aphorist, writer<br><i>Gnomologia: Adages and Proverbs</i> (compiler), # 2481 (1732) 
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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Discworld No. 11, Reaper Man (1991)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Huh! Priests!&#8221; said Mr. Shoe. &#8220;They&#8217;re all the same. Always telling you that you&#8217;re going to live again after you&#8217;re dead, but you just try it and see the look on their faces!&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Huh! Priests!&#8221; said Mr. Shoe. &#8220;They&#8217;re all the same. Always telling you that you&#8217;re going to live again after you&#8217;re dead, but you just try it and see the look on their faces!&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br>Discworld No. 11, <i>Reaper Man</i> (1991) 
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		<title>Russell, John "jr" -- Belief-L (24 Nov. 1999)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But regardless of whether Hitler or the mass murderer of your choice sincerely regretted his actions in his last moments and made it to Heaven, with all due respect, what difference does it make to you? Apart from the awkward silence if you happen to bump into him there, I mean.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But regardless of whether Hitler or the mass murderer of your choice sincerely regretted his actions in his last moments and made it to Heaven, with all due respect, what difference does it make to you?  Apart from the awkward silence if you happen to bump into him there, I mean.</p>
<br><b>John Russell</b> (contemp.) ("jr")<br><i>Belief-L</i> (24 Nov. 1999) 
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		<title>Einstein, Albert -- &#8220;Religion and Science,&#8221; New York Times Magazine (9 Nov 1930)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A man&#8217;s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man&#8217;s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary.  Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death.</p>
<br><b>Albert Einstein</b> (1879-1955) German-American physicist<br>&#8220;Religion and Science,&#8221; <i>New York Times Magazine</i> (9 Nov 1930) 
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		<title>Selden, John -- Table Talk, § 104.4 &#8220;Pleasure&#8221; (1689)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[While you are upon the earth, enjoy the good things that are here (to the end that they were given), and be not melancholy, and wish yourself in Heaven.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you are upon the earth, enjoy the good things that are here (to the end that they were given), and be not melancholy, and wish yourself in Heaven.</p>
<br><b>John Selden</b> (1584-1654) English jurist, legal scholar, antiquarian, polymath<br><i>Table Talk</i>, § 104.4 &#8220;Pleasure&#8221; (1689) 
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		<title>Goethe, Johann von -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life is the childhood of our immortality.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is the childhood of our immortality.</p>
<br><b>Johann Wolfgang von Goethe</b> (1749-1832) German poet, statesman, scientist<br>(Attributed) 
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		<title>Browne, Thomas -- Religio Medici, Part 1, sec. 52 (1643)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have so fixed my contemplations on Heaven, that I have almost forgot the Idea of Hell, and am afraid rather to lose the joyes of the one than endure the misery of the other; to be deprived of them is a perfect hell, &#038; needs me thinkes no addition to compleate our afflictions; that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have so fixed my contemplations on Heaven, that I have almost forgot the Idea of Hell, and am afraid rather to lose the joyes of the one than endure the misery of the other; to be deprived of them is a perfect hell, &#038; needs me thinkes no addition to compleate our afflictions; that terrible terme hath never detained me from sin, nor do I owe any good action to the name thereof: I feare God, yet am not afraid of him, his mercies make me ashamed of my sins, before his judgements afraid thereof: these are the forced and secondary method of his wisedome, which he useth but as the last remedy, and upon provocation, a course rather to deterre the wicked, than incite the vertuous to his worship. I can hardly thinke there was ever any scared into Heaven, they goe the fairest way to Heaven, that would serve God without a Hell, other Mercenaries that crouch unto him in feare of Hell, though they terme themselves the servants, are indeed but the slaves of the Almighty.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Browne</b> (1605-1682) English physician and author<br><i>Religio Medici</i>, Part 1, sec. 52 (1643) 
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