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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 2 &#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221; Canto 17, l. 115ff (17.115-123) (1314) [tr. Ciardi (1961)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some think they see their own hope to advance tied to their neighbor&#8217;s fall, and thus they long to see him cast down from his eminence; Some fear their power, preferment, honor, fame will suffer by another&#8217;s rise, and thus, irked by his good, desire his ruin and shame; And some at the least injury [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some think they see their own hope to advance<br />
<span class="tab">tied to their neighbor&#8217;s fall, and thus they long<br />
<span class="tab">to see him cast down from his eminence;<br />
Some fear their power, preferment, honor, fame<br />
<span class="tab">will suffer by another&#8217;s rise, and thus,<br />
<span class="tab">irked by his good, desire his ruin and shame;<br />
And some at the least injury catch fire<br />
<span class="tab">and are consumed by thoughts of vengeance; thus,<br />
<span class="tab">their neighbor&#8217;s harm becomes their chief desire.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[E’ chi, per esser suo vicin soppresso,<br />
<span class="tab">spera eccellenza, e sol per questo brama<br />
<span class="tab">ch’el sia di sua grandezza in basso messo;<br />
è chi podere, grazia, onore e fama<br />
<span class="tab">teme di perder perch’altri sormonti,<br />
<span class="tab">onde s’attrista sì che ’l contrario ama;<br />
ed è chi per ingiuria par ch’aonti,<br />
<span class="tab">sì che si fa de la vendetta ghiotto,<br />
<span class="tab">e tal convien che ’l male altrui impronti.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 2 <i>&#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221;</i> Canto 17, l. 115ff (17.115-123) (1314) [tr. Ciardi (1961)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio00dant/page/182/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22some+at+the+least%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Virgil explains to Dante how "bad" love -- love for self, love of another's harm -- can manifest as Pride, Envy, or Wrath toward others, the sins addressed in the first three tiers of Purgatory.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Purgatorio/Canto_XVII#:~:text=E%E2%80%99%20chi%2C%20per,male%20altrui%20impronti.">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Those first the taints, that to their Neighbours' fall<br>
Trust for distinction on this Earthly Ball,<br>
<span class="tab">In talents, wealth, or fame, and feed their pride<br>
By the sad sight of others' hopes depress'd,<br>
And o'er their ruin lift a lofty crest,<br>
<span class="tab">With Venom from the fount of Good supply'd.<br>
<br>
The next that feel this sullen Stygian flame,<br>
Are those, that fear to lose their wealth or fame,<br>
<span class="tab">Or any gift, by bounteous Heav'n assign'd;<br>
And long possess'd of Fortune's turning wheel,<br>
In its ascent another name reveal,<br>
<span class="tab">That threats to leave them, and their hopes behind.<br>
<br>
Another evil thus becomes their good,<br>
And feeds their black desires with Demon food. --<br>
<span class="tab">The third are they, who, with the sense of wrong,<br>
Burn inward, or with fell, vindictive Wrath<br>
Pursue their brethren to the Cave of Death,<br>
<span class="tab">By love of Pelf, or fiend-like Frenzy stung.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediad00unkngoog/page/n234/mode/2up?q=%22Those+firft+flie+tjunts%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 28-30]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is who hopes (his neighbour’s worth deprest,)<br>
<span class="tab">Preeminence himself, and coverts hence<br>
<span class="tab">For his own greatness that another fall.<br>
There is who so much fears the loss of power,<br>
<span class="tab">Fame, favour, glory (should his fellow mount<br>
<span class="tab">Above him), and so sickens at the thought,<br>
He loves their opposite: and there is he,<br>
<span class="tab">Whom wrong or insult seems to gall and shame<br>
<span class="tab">That he doth thirst for vengeance, and such needs<br>
Must doat on other’s evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8795/8795-h/8795-h.htm#cantoII.17:~:text=There%20is%20who,on%20other%E2%80%99s%20evil.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is, in order neighbour to suppress, <br>
<span class="tab">Who would excel, himself, his sole desire <br>
<span class="tab">Grandeur, that sees another in the mire: <br>
There is who power, grace, and honour, fame, <br>
<span class="tab">Still fears to lose, because the rest surpass, <br>
<span class="tab">Grows sad, and loves the counteracting cause: <br>
There is who, for injurious affront, <br>
<span class="tab">Revenge desires, thirsts for another's pain, <br>
<span class="tab">And hence to ill of others must attain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/240/mode/2up?q=%22there+is+in+order%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There are, who, by abasement of their neighbour,<br>
<span class="tab">Hope to excel, and therefore only long<br>
<span class="tab">That from his greatness he may be cast down;<br>
There are, who power, grace, honour, and renown<br>
<span class="tab">Fear they may lose because another rises,<br>
<span class="tab">Thence are so sad that the reverse they love;<br>
And there are those whom injury seems to chafe,<br>
<span class="tab">So that it makes them greedy for revenge,<br>
<span class="tab">And such must needs shape out another's harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_2/Canto_17#:~:text=There%20are%2C%20who,out%20another%27s%20harm.">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is who, through his neighbour being kept down, hopes for excellence, and only for this reason yearns that he may be from his greatness brought low. There is who fears to lose power, grace, honour, and fame, in case another mounts up, wherefore he grows so sad that he loves the contrary. And there is who through injury appears so to take shame that he becomes gluttonous of vengeance; and such an one it behoves that he put forward another's ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorydantea00aliggoog/page/n228/mode/2up?q=%22there+is+who+through%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is, who through his neighbour's ruin, so<br>
<span class="tab">Hopeth pre-eminence, who hence doth call <br>
<span class="tab">That he from grandeur may be cast down low. <br>
There is, who fears to lose power, grace, and all<br>
<span class="tab">Honour and fame, because that others rise.<br>
<span class="tab">Which grieves him so that he desires their fall.<br>
There is, who seems so hurt by injuries, <br>
<span class="tab">That he on vengeance greedily doth brood;<br>
<span class="tab">And such a one another's ill must prize.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/198/mode/2up?q=%22There+is%2C+who+through%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is he who hopes to excel through the abasement of his neighbor, and only longs that from his greatness he may be brought low. There is he who fears loss of power, favor, honor, fame, because another rises; whereat he is so saddened that he loves the opposite. And there is he who seems so outraged by injury that it makes him gluttonous of vengeance, and such a one must needs coin evil for others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1996/1996-h/1996-h.htm#cantoII.XVII:~:text=There%20is%20he,evil%20for%20others.">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">There is he who through his neighbour's abasement hopes to excel, and solely for this desires that he be cast down from his greatness; <br>
<span class="tab">there is he who fears to lose power, favour, honour and fame because another is exalted, wherefore he groweth sad so that he loves the contrary; <br>
<span class="tab">and there is he who seems to be so shamed through being wronged, that he becomes greedy of vengeance, and such must needs seek another's hurt.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorioofdant00dant_0/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22There+is+he+who+through%22">Okey</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is he that hopes to excel by the abasement of his neighbour and for that sole reason longs that from his greatness he may be brought low; there is he that fears to lose power, favour, honour, and fame because another surpasses, by which he is so aggrieved that he loves the contrary; and there is he that feels himself so disgraced by insult that he becomes greedy of vengeance, and such a one must needs contrive another's harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/iipurgatoriowith00dant/page/226/mode/2up?q=%22there+is+he+that+hopes%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is, who through his neighbour's overthrow <br>
<span class="tab">Hopes to excel, and only for that cause <br>
<span class="tab">Longs that he may from greatness be brought low.<br>
There is, who fears power, favour, fame to lose <br>
<span class="tab">Because another mounts; wherefore his lot <br>
<span class="tab">So irks, he loves the opposite to choose. <br>
And there is, who through injury grows so hot<br>
<span class="tab">From shame, with greed of vengeance he is burned,<br>
<span class="tab">And so must needs another's ill promote.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/276/mode/2up?q=+%22there+is+who%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some hope their neighbour’s ruin may divert <br>
<span class="tab">His glory to themselves, and this sole hope <br>
<span class="tab">Prompts them to drag his greatness in the dirt;<br>
Some, in their fear to lose fame, favour, scope,<br>
<span class="tab">And honour, should another rise to power,<br>
<span class="tab">Wishing the worst, sit glumly there and mope;<br>
And some there are whose wrongs have turned them sour,<br>
<span class="tab">So that they thirst for vengeance, and this passion<br>
<span class="tab">Fits them to plot some mischief any hour.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0002unse/page/198/mode/2up?q=%22some+hope+their%22">Sayers</a> (1955)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">There is he that hopes to excel by the abasement of his neighbor, and solely for this desires that he be cast down from greatness. <br>
<span class="tab">There is he that fears to lose power, favor, honor, and fame, because another is exalted, by which he is so saddened that he loves the contrary.<br>
<span class="tab">And there is he who seems so outraged by injury that he becomes greedy of vengeance, and such a one must needs contrive another's hurt.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_II_Purgatorio_Vol_II_P/2Q48EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22there%20is%20he%20that%20hopes%22">Singleton</a> (1973)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is the man who sees his own success<br>
<span class="tab">connect to his neighbor's downfall; thus,<br>
<span class="tab">he longs to see him fall from eminence.<br>
Next, he who fears to lose honor and fame,<br>
<span class="tab">power and favor, if his neighbor rise:<br>
<span class="tab">vexed by this good, he wishes for the words.<br>
Finally, he who, wronged, flares up in rage:<br>
<span class="tab">with his great passion for revenge, he thinks <br>
<span class="tab">only of how to harm his fellow man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantealighierisd03dant/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22there+is+the+man%22">Musa</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is the man who, through the suppression of his neighbour, <br>
<span class="tab">Hopes to excel, and for that reason only <br>
<span class="tab">Desires to see him cast down from his greatness:<br>
There is the man who fears to lose power, favour, <br>
<span class="tab">Honour and glory because of another’s success, <br>
<span class="tab">And so grieves for it that he loves the opposite:<br>
And there is the man who takes umbrage at injury <br>
<span class="tab">So that he becomes greedy for revenge <br>
<span class="tab">And such a man must seek to harm another.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/272/mode/2up?q=%22hopes+to+excel%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There’s he who, through abasement of another, <br>
<span class="tab">hopes for supremacy; he only longs <br>
<span class="tab">to see his neighbor’s excellence cast down.<br>
Then there is one who, when he is outdone, <br>
<span class="tab">fears his own loss of fame, power, honor, favor; <br>
<span class="tab">his sadness loves misfortune for his neighbor.<br>
And there is he who, over injury <br>
<span class="tab">received, resentful, for revenge grows greedy <br>
<span class="tab">and, angrily, seeks out another’s harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio0000dant_m5q7/page/150/mode/2up?q=%22there%27s+he+who%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">There are those who hope for supremacy through their neighbor’s being kept down, and only on this account desire that his greatness be brought low;<br>
<span class="tab">there are those who fear to lose power, favor, honor, or fame because another mounts higher, and thus are so aggrieved that they love the contrary;<br>
<span class="tab">and there are those who seem so outraged by injury that they become greedy for revenge, and thus they must ready harm for others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0002dant_d4k9/page/282/mode/2up?q=%22there+are+those+who+hope%22">Durling</a> (2003)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">There are those who hope to excel through their neighbour’s downfall, and because of this alone want them toppled from their greatness. This is Pride.<br>
<span class="tab">There are those who fear to lose, power, influence, fame or honour because another is preferred, at which they are so saddened they desire the contrary. This is Envy.<br>
<span class="tab">And there are those who seem so ashamed because of injury, that they become eager for revenge, and so are forced to wish another’s harm. This is Wrath.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantPurg15to21.php#:~:text=There%20are%20those,This%20is%20Wrath.">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Some hope, by keeping all their neighbours down, that they'll excel. They yearn for that alone -- to see them brought from high to low estate. <br>
<span class="tab">Then, some will fear that, if another mounts, they'll lose all honour, fame and grace and power, so, grieving at success, love what it’s not. <br>
<span class="tab">And some, it seems, when hurt, bear such a grudge that they crave only to exact revenge -- which means they seek to speed another’s harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy2pur0000dant/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22Some+hope%2C+by+keeping%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is the one, hoping to excel by bringing down<br>
<span class="tab">his neighbor, who, for that sole reason, longs<br>
<span class="tab">that from his greatness his neighbor be brought low.<br>
There is the one who fears the loss of power, favor,<br>
<span class="tab">honor, fame -- should he be bettered by another.<br>
<span class="tab">This so aggrieves him that he wants to see him fall.<br>
And there is the one who thinks himself offended<br>
<span class="tab">and hungers after vengeance,<br>
<span class="tab">and he must then contrive another's harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?INP_POEM=Purg&INP_SECT=17&INP_START=115&INP_LEN=9&LANG=0">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>First, there's the man who aspires to excellence<br>
<span class="tab">By pressing down his neighbor: only this yearning<br>
<span class="tab">Makes him strive to pull his neighbor to the ground.<br>
Then there's the man with power, favor, and honor,<br>
<span class="tab">And so afraid of losing these when someone<br>
<span class="tab">Climbs above him, that he hates what once he loved.<br>
And there's the man who, outraged at being insulted,<br>
<span class="tab">Lusts for the chance of taking revenge, and rushes<br>
<span class="tab">Into wicked plans for hurting others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22aspires%20to%20excellence%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>
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		<title>Ennius -- Fragment 410</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whom they fear, they hate. And whom one hates, one hopes to see him dead. [Quem metuunt oderunt; quem quisque odit, perisse expetit.] Quoted by Cicero, De Officiis, Book 2, ch. 7 (sec. 23) [tr. Miller]. Alt. trans.: &#8220;Whom men fear they hate; and whom they hate they eagerly wish their destruction.&#8221; [tr. McCartney (1798)]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whom they fear, they hate. And whom one hates, one hopes to see him dead.</p>
<p><em>[Quem metuunt oderunt; quem quisque odit, perisse expetit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Ennius</b> (239-169 BC) Roman poet, writer [Quintus Ennius]<br>Fragment 410 
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_in_28_Vols/tKb-ah7iIgAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=cicero%20%22De%20Officiis%22&pg=PA190&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Quem%20metuunt%20oderunt%22">Quoted</a> by Cicero, <em>De Officiis</em>, Book 2, ch. 7 (sec. 23) [tr. Miller].

Alt. trans.: "Whom men fear they hate; and whom they hate they eagerly wish their destruction."  [tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_treatise_of_Cicero_De_officiis_or_hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA141&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22excellent%20line%22">McCartney (1798)</a>]						</span>
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		<title>Bentham, Jeremy -- Comment on James Mill</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[He rather hated the ruling few than loved the suffering many. In the journal of Caroline Fox (7 Aug 1840), regarding the father of John Stuart Mill. James Mill was a proponent of Bentham&#8217;s philosophy. The observation was recalled in conversation with John Bowring, Bentham&#8217;s executor.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He rather hated the ruling few than loved the suffering many.</p>
<br><b>Jeremy Bentham</b> (1748-1832) English jurist and philosopher<br>Comment on James Mill 
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In the journal of Caroline Fox (7 Aug 1840), regarding the father of John Stuart Mill. James Mill was a proponent of Bentham's philosophy. The observation was recalled in conversation with John Bowring, Bentham's executor.
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