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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  8, epigram 69 (8.69) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212; Only the poets dead are poets true! Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212; It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by you. [Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas. Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.] Original Latin. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">Only the poets dead are poets true!<br />
Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by <i>you.</i></p>
<p><em>[Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos<br />
nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas.<br />
Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti<br />
non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 69 (8.69) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=vacerra%20likes%20no%20bards%20but%20those%20of%20old%E2%80%94%20only%20the%20poets%20dead%20are%20poets%20true!%20really%2C%20vacerra%E2%80%94may%20i%20make%20so%20bold%3F%E2%80%94%20it's%20not%20worth%20dying%20to%20be%20liked%20by%20you." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22miraris%20veteres%22&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover">Original Latin</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Vacerra, thou approv'st of none<br>
<span class="tab">For Poets, but are dead and gone.<br>
Pardon; for so much do not I<br>
<span class="tab">Esteeme thy praises as to dy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.104?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I ask’t thee oft, what Poets thou hast read,<br>
<span class="tab">And lik'st the best? Still thou reply'st, The dead.<br>
I shall, ere long, with green turfs cover'd be;<br>
<span class="tab">Then sure thou't like, or thou wilt envie me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22i+ask%27t+thee+oft%22&view=theater">Herrick</a> (1648)]<br></blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The ancients all your veneration have:<br>
<span class="tab">You like no poet on this side of the grave.<br>
Yet, pray, excuse me; if to pleases you, I<br>
<span class="tab">Can hardly think it worth my while to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20ancients%20all%20your%20veneration%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vacerra! you admire only the ancients; your praise is restricted to the deceased poets. Pardon me, Vacerra, if I do not think your praise of so much value as to die for it. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, only the poets of old, and praise only those who are dead. Pardon me, I beseech you, Vacerra, it I think death too high a price to pay for your praise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=vacerra&pg=PA384&printsec=frontcover">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The ancients only you admire, Vacerra;<br>
No poet wins your favor till he dies.<br>
I ask your pardon, but I don't think your praise<br>
is worth so much that I will die for it.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ask%20your%20pardon%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, the ancients alone, and praise none but dead poets. Your pardon, pray, Vacerra: it is not worth my while, merely to please you, to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20admire%20vacerra%22&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You puff the poets of other days,<br>
<span class="tab">The living you deplore.<br>
Spare me the accolade: your praise<br>
<span class="tab">Is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20puff%20the,Dudley%20Fitts">Fitts</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Rigidly classical, you save<br>
<span class="tab">Your praise for poets in the grave.<br>
Forgive me, it's not worth my while<br>
<span class="tab">Dying to earn your critical smile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22rigidly+classical%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire only the ancients, Vacerra, and praise no poets except dead ones. I crave your pardon, Vacerra; your good opinion is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>There are poets you praise,<br>
<span class="tab">But I notice they’re all dead.<br>
I’d rather find another way<br>
<span class="tab">to please you, friend, instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=There%20are%20poets%20you%20praise%2C%0ABut%20I%20notice%20they%E2%80%99re%20all%20dead.%0AI%E2%80%99d%20rather%20find%20another%20way%0Ato%20please%20you%2C%20friend%2C%20instead.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Vacerra, you admire the ancients only<br>
<span class="tab">and praise no poets but those here no more.<br>
I beg that you will pardon me, Vacerra,<br>
<span class="tab">but pleasing you is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA16&vq=%22what%20yield%22&pg=PA16#v=snippet&q=%22admire%20the%20ancients%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Deceased authors thou admir'st alone,<br>
<span class="tab">And only praisest poets dead and gone:<br>
Vacerra, pardon me, I will not buy<br>
<span class="tab">Thy praise so dear, as for the same to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Fuller</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You praise long-dead authors rapturously;<br>
<span class="tab">the living ones you savage or ignore,<br>
but since your praise can’t grant immortality<br>
<span class="tab">I really don’t think it’s worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20praise%20long,Brooke%20Clark">Clark</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pine for bards of old<br>
<span class="tab">and poets safely cold.<br>
Excuse me for ignoring your advice,<br>
<span class="tab">but good reviews from you aren’t worth the price.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Dear%20Vacerra%3A,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Unless they’re dead, no poets seem<br>
<span class="tab">To fully satisfy;<br>
Forgive me if, for some esteem,<br>
<span class="tab">I’m not prepared to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Unless%20they%E2%80%99re%20dead,Jack%20Mitchell">Mitchell</a>]</blockquote><br>


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