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		<title>Moliere -- Don Juan [Dom Juan], Act 3, sc. 1 (1665) [tr. Wilbur (2001)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[SGANARELLE: But one has to believe in something; what is it that you believe? [&#8230;] DON JUAN: I believe that two and two are four, Sganarelle, and that four and four are eight. [SGANARELLE: Mais encore faut-il croire en quelque chose dans le monde : qu’est-ce donc que vous croyez? [&#8230;] DON JUAN: Je crois [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">SGANARELLE: But one has to believe in something; what is it that you believe? [&#8230;]</p>
<p class="hangingindent">DON JUAN: I believe that two and two are four, Sganarelle, and that four and four are eight.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent"><em>[SGANARELLE: Mais encore faut-il croire en quelque chose dans le monde : qu’est-ce donc que vous croyez? [&#8230;]</em></p>
<p class="hangingindent"><em>DON JUAN: Je crois que deux et deux sont quatre, Sganarelle, et que quatre et quatre sont huit.]</em></p>
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<br><b>Molière</b> (1622-1673) French playwright, actor [stage name for Jean-Baptiste Poquelin]<br><i>Don Juan [Dom Juan]</i>, Act 3, sc. 1 (1665) [tr. Wilbur (2001)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Moliere_The_Complete_Richard_Wilbur_Tran/DKUbEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22but%20one%20has%20to%20believe%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This passage, where belief in folk spirits and bogeymen (or, alternately, math) is conflated with religious belief, was <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_dramatic_works_of_Moli%C3%A8re_rendered/NGACAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA133&printsec=frontcover&dq=eight">dropped from later performances</a>, and is sometimes not included in text versions of the play (e.g., Clitandre (1672)).<br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Don_Juan_ou_le_Festin_de_pierre/%C3%89dition_Louandre,_1910/Acte_III#:~:text=Mais%20encore%20faut,quatre%20sont%20huit.">Source (French)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">SGAN: People must believe something in this world. What do you believe? [...]<br>
<span class="tab">D JU: I believe that two and two are four, Sganarelle, and that twice four are eight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_dramatic_works_of_Moli%C3%A8re_rendered/NGACAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22believe%20that%20two%22">Van Laun</a> (1876)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">SGAN: One must believe in something here below.  What do you believe in? [...]<br>
<span class="tab">JU: Well, I believe that two and two make four, Sganarelle, and that four and four make eight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Dramatic_Works_of_Moli%C3%A8re/JrhEAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22believe%20that%20two%22">Wall</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">SGAN:  Now just tell me (for one must believe something) in what do you believe? [...]<br>
<span class="tab">D. JUAN: I believe two and two make four, Sganarelle, and that four and four are eight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/a6OuxqYk0nsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20believe%20two%22">Waller</a> (1904)]  </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">SGANARELLE: But at least a man must believe in something here below. Now what <i>do</i> you believe in? [...]<br>
<span class="tab">DON JUAN: I believe that two and two make four, Sganarelle, and that twice four is eight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/molireaffectedm00pagegoog/page/n168/mode/2up?q=%22believe+that+two%22">Page</a> (1908)]  </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">SGANARELLE: A person must have faith in something. What do you believe? [...]<br>
<span class="tab">DON JUAN: I believe, Sganarelle, that two and two are four and four and four are eight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Scapin_And_Don_Juan/f5YVmyILe1sC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20person%20must%20have%20faith%22">Bermel</a> (1987)]  </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Carroll, Lewis -- Alice&#8217;s Adventures in Wonderland, ch.  9 &#8220;The Mock Turtle’s Story&#8221; (1865)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with,&#8221; the Mock Turtle replied: &#8220;and then the different branches of Arithmetic &#8212; Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.&#8221; &#8220;I never heard of &#8216;Uglification,'&#8221; Alice ventured to say. &#8220;What is it?&#8221; The Gryphon lifted up both its paws in surprise. &#8220;Never heard of uglifying!&#8221; it exclaimed. &#8220;You know what [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">&#8220;Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with,&#8221; the Mock Turtle replied: &#8220;and then the different branches of Arithmetic &#8212; Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;I never heard of &#8216;Uglification,'&#8221; Alice ventured to say. &#8220;What is it?&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">The Gryphon lifted up both its paws in surprise. &#8220;Never heard of uglifying!&#8221; it exclaimed. &#8220;You know what to beautify is, I suppose?&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Yes,&#8221; said Alice, doubtfully: &#8220;it means &#8212; to &#8212; make &#8212; anything &#8212; prettier.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Well then,&#8221; the Gryphon went on, &#8220;if you don&#8217;t know what to uglify is, you <i>are</i> a simpleton.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">Alice did not feel encouraged to ask any more questions about it, so she turned to the Mock Turtle, and said, &#8220;What else had you to learn?&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Well, there was Mystery,&#8221; the Mock Turtle replied, counting off the subjects on his flappers, &#8212; &#8220;Mystery, ancient and modern, with Seaography: then Drawling &#8212; the Drawling-master was an old conger-eel, that used to come once a week: he taught us Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Coils.&#8221;</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Lewis Carroll</b> (1832-1898) English writer and mathematician [pseud. of Rev. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson]<br><i>Alice&#8217;s Adventures in Wonderland</i>, ch.  9 &#8220;The Mock Turtle’s Story&#8221; (1865) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland_(1866)/Chapter_9#:~:text=%22Reeling%20and%20Writhing,Fainting%20in%20Coils.%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Describing the "regular course" at the school he attended.						</span>
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