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		<title>Ball, George W. -- &#8220;Kennedy Up Close,&#8221; New York Review of Books (3 Feb 1994)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[History is filled with undistinguished leaders who succeeded because they had a flair for selecting sound counselors.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History is filled with undistinguished leaders who succeeded because they had a flair for selecting sound counselors.</p>
<br><b>George W. Ball</b> (1909–1994) American diplomat and banker<br>&#8220;Kennedy Up Close,&#8221; <i>New York Review of Books</i> (3 Feb 1994) 
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		<title>Confucius -- The Analects [論語, 论语, Lúnyǔ], Book 11, verse 24, sec. 3 (11.24.3) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Hinton (1998)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I call a great minister is one who employs the Way in serving his sovereign. If he cannot do that, he resigns. [所謂大臣者、以道事君、不可則止。] Numbered 11.23 by Legge and other early translators, as noted. More recent translators use 11.24, though some use 11.22. All are noted below. (Source (Chinese)). Other translations: What is called a [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I call a great minister is one who employs the Way in serving his sovereign. If he cannot do that, he resigns.</p>
<p>[所謂大臣者、以道事君、不可則止。]</p>
<br><b>Confucius</b> (c. 551- c. 479 BC) Chinese philosopher, sage, politician [孔夫子 (Kǒng Fūzǐ, K'ung Fu-tzu, K'ung Fu Tse), 孔子 (Kǒngzǐ, Chungni), 孔丘 (Kǒng Qiū, K'ung Ch'iu)]<br><i>The Analects</i> [論語, 论语, <i>Lúnyǔ]</i>, Book 11, verse 24, sec. 3 (11.24.3) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Hinton (1998)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22call+a+great+minister%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Numbered 11.23 by Legge and other early translators, as noted. More recent translators use 11.24, though some use 11.22. All are noted below.<br><br> 

(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/XI#:~:text=%E4%B9%8B%E5%95%8F%E3%80%82%E3%80%90%E4%B8%89%E7%AF%80%E3%80%91-,%E6%89%80%E8%AC%82%E5%A4%A7%E8%87%A3%E8%80%85%E3%80%81%E4%BB%A5%E9%81%93%E4%BA%8B%E5%90%9B%E3%80%81%E4%B8%8D%E5%8F%AF%E5%89%87%E6%AD%A2%E3%80%82,-%E3%80%90%E5%9B%9B%E7%AF%80%E3%80%91%E4%BB%8A%E7%94%B1">Source (Chinese)</a>). Other translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>What is called a great minister is one who serves his prince according to what is right; and when he finds he cannot do so, retires.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/XI#plainSister:~:text=What%20is%20called%20a%20great%20minister%2C,finds%20he%20cannot%20do%20so%2C%20retires.">Legge</a> (1861), 11.23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those whom we call 'great ministers' are such as serve their prince conscientiously, and who, when they cannot do so, retire. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.25525/page/127/mode/2up?q=%22call+great+ministers%22">Jennings</a> (1895), 11.23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Men I call statesmen are those who will serve their master according to their sense of duty; who, however, when they find they cannot do that, consistently, with their sense of duty, will resign. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/TheDiscoursesAndSayingsOfConfucius/page/n111/mode/2up?q=%22men+I+call+statesmen%22">Ku Hung-Ming</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He who may be called a great minister is one who serves his Prince according to the right, and when that cannot be, resigns. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/I-O4nmWeSnwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22called%20a%20great%20minister%22">Soothill</a> (1910) 11.23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You call a man a great minister when be serves his prince honestly. and retires when he cannot.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.4505/page/n69/mode/2up?q=%22gnat+minister+when%22">Pound</a> (1933), 11.23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What I call a great minister is one who will only serve is prince while he can do so without infringement of the Way, and as soon as this is impossible, resigns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_a6y6/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22call+a+great+minister%22">Waley</a> (1938), 11.23]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>The so-called great minister serves his prince in keeping with The Right Way, and if that is impossible, he quits his post.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.20677/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22called+great+minister%22">Ware</a> (1950), 11.22]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The term "great minister" refers to those who serve their lord according to the Way and who, when this is no longer possible, relinquish office. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectslunyu00conf/page/108/mode/2up?q=%22term+great+minister%22">Lau</a> (1979), 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What I call a great minister serves his ruler in accordance with the Way, and when it is impossible to do so he resigns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_d2c3/page/40/mode/2up?q=%22call+a+great+minister%22">Dawson</a> (1993), 11.22]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A great minister is a minister who serves his lord by following the Way, and who resigns as soon as the two are no longer reconcilable.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/kj_Kl9l0RZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=resigns&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover">Leys</a> (1997), 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those who are called great ministers use the Way to serve the sovereign. If thye cannot, they should then stop.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/wqym0cOd33MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22called%20great%20ministers%20use%22&printsec=frontcover">Huang</a> (1997), 11.22]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The persons named as the Great Officials, should service the Lords with the benevolent way, and stop if the way does not work.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc00conf_1/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22great+officials+should%22">Cai/Yu</a> (1998), #284, 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What are called great ministers are those who serve their lord with the way <i>[dao]</i>, and when they cannot, resign.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc0000conf_e9q2/page/146/mode/2up?q=%22called+great+ministers%22">Ames/Rosemont</a> (1998), 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those whom one calls great ministers serve their ruler according to the Way, and when they can no longer, they stop.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/originalanalects0000conf/page/74/mode/2up?q=%2211.22%22">Brooks/Brooks</a> (1998), 11:22]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What we call "great ministers" are those who seek to serve their lord by means of the Way, and who resign if unable to do so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://confucius.page/category/analects/analects-book-eleven/#:~:text=What%20we%20call%20%E2%80%98great%20ministers%E2%80%99%20are%20those%20who%20seek%20to%20serve%20their%20lord%20by%20means%20of%20the%20Way%2C%20and%20who%20resign%20if%20unable%20to%20do%20so.">Slingerland</a> (2003), 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The term “great minister” applies to someone who serves the ruler according to the Way. If he cannot do that, he retires.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/nw8ywCP7w8gC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22term%20great%20minister%22">Watson</a> (2007), 11.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The term "great ministers" applies to those who serve their lord in a moral way. If they simply cannot, then they stop.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects/7czwAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=minister%20stop">Chin</a> (2014), 11.24]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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