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		<title>Augustine of Hippo -- On Christian Doctrine [De Doctrina Christiana], Book 2, ch. 18 / § 28 (2.18.28) (AD 397) [tr. Robertson (1958)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But we should not think that we ought not to learn literature because Mercury is said to be its inventor, nor that because the pagans dedicated temples to Justice and Virtue and adored in stones what should be performed in the heart, we should therefore avoid justice and virtue. Rather, every good and true Christian [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we should not think that we ought not to learn literature because Mercury is said to be its inventor, nor that because the pagans dedicated temples to Justice and Virtue and adored in stones what should be performed in the heart, we should therefore avoid justice and virtue. Rather, every good and true Christian should understand that wherever he may find truth, it is his Lord&#8217;s.</p>
<p><em>[Neque enim et litteras discere non debuimus quia earum repertorem dicunt esse Mercurium, aut quia iustitiae virtutique templa dedicarunt, et quae corde gestanda sunt in lapidibus adorare maluerunt, propterea nobis iustitia virtusque fugienda est. Immo vero quisquis bonus verusque Christianus est, Domini sui esse intellegat.]</em></p>
<br><b>Augustine of Hippo</b> (354-430) Christian church father, philosopher, saint [b. Aurelius Augustinus]<br><i>On Christian Doctrine [De Doctrina Christiana]</i>, Book 2, ch. 18 / § 28 (2.18.28) (AD 397) [tr. Robertson (1958)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/onchristiandoct000augu/page/54/mode/2up?q=mercury" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://la.wikisource.org/wiki/De_Doctrina_Christiana/II#:~:text=Neque%20enim%20et,sui%20esse%20intellegat">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For we ought not to refuse to learn letters because they say that Mercury discovered them; nor because they have dedicated temples to Justice and Virtue, and prefer to worship in the form of stones things that ought to have their place in the heart, ought we on that account to forsake justice and virtue.  Nay, but let every good and true Christian understand that wherever truth may be found, it belongs to his Master.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_I/Volume_II/On_Christian_Doctrine/Book_II/Chapter_18#:~:text=For%20we%20ought,to%20his%20Master">Shaw</a> (1858)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We were not wrong to learn the alphabet just because they say Mercury was its patron, nor should we avoid justice and virtue just because they dedicated temples to justice and virtue and preferred to honour these values not in their minds, but in the form of stones. A person who is a good and a true Christian should realize that truth belongs to his Lord, wherever it is found. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/De_Doctrina_Christiana/CMARDAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22we%20were%20not%20wrong%20to%20learn%20the%20alphabet%22">Green</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Lessing, Gotthold -- Nathan the Wise [Nathan der Weise], Act 2, sc. 1 [Sittah] (1779) [tr. Maxwell (1917)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know not, will not know, what Christians are; Their pride is to be Christians, never men; Ay, even that which since their Founder&#8217;s time Hath tinged their superstition with a touch Of pure humanity, is prized by them Never because &#8217;tis human, but because &#8216;Twas preached and practised by their Jesus Christ. &#8216;Tis well [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know not, <i>will not</i> know, what Christians are;<br />
Their pride is to be Christians, never men;<br />
Ay, even that which since their Founder&#8217;s time<br />
Hath tinged their superstition with a touch<br />
Of pure humanity, is prized by them<br />
Never because &#8217;tis human, but because<br />
&#8216;Twas preached and practised by their Jesus Christ.<br />
&#8216;Tis well for them he was so rare a man;<br />
Well that they take his virtues upon trust;<br />
But what to them the virtues of their Christ?<br />
&#8216;Tis was not his virtues, but his name alone<br />
They seek to spread, that it may dominate<br />
And cloud the names of other noble men;<br />
Ay, &#8217;tis the name, the name of Christ alone<br />
Your Christian cares about.</p>
<p><em>[Du kennst die Christen nicht, willst sie nicht kennen.<br />
Ihr Stolz ist: Christen sein; nicht Menschen. Denn<br />
Selbst das, was, noch von ihrem Stifter her,<br />
Mit Menschlichkeit den Aberglauben würzt,<br />
Das lieben sie, nicht weil es menschlich ist:<br />
Weil&#8217;s Christus lehrt; weil&#8217;s Christus hat getan.—<br />
Wohl ihnen, daß er so ein guter Mensch<br />
Noch war! Wohl ihnen, daß sie seine Tugend<br />
Auf Treu und Glaube nehmen können!—Doch<br />
Was Tugend?—Seine Tugend nicht; sein Name<br />
Soll überall verbreitet werden; soll<br />
Die Namen aller guten Menschen schänden,<br />
Verschlingen. Um den Namen, um den Namen<br />
Ist ihnen nur zu tun.]</em></p>
<br><b>Gotthold Lessing</b> (1729-1781) German playwright, philosopher, dramaturg, writer<br><i>Nathan the Wise [Nathan der Weise]</i>, Act 2, sc. 1 [Sittah] (1779) [tr. Maxwell (1917)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanthewiseadr00lessuoft/page/190/mode/2up?q=%22you+know+not%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9186/pg9186-images.html#:~:text=Du%20kennst%20die,nur%20zu%20tun.https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9186/pg9186-images.html#:~:text=Du%20kennst%20die,nur%20zu%20tun.">Source (German)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">You do not know the christians.<br>
You will not know them. 'Tis this people's pride <br>
not to be men, but to be christians. Even <br>
what of humane their founder felt, and taught, <br>
and left to savour their fond superstition, <br>
they value not because it is humane, <br>
lovely, and good for man; they only prize it <br>
because 'twas Christ who taught it, Christ who did it.<br> 
'Tis well for them he was so good a man: <br>
well that they take his goodness all for granted, <br>
and in his virtues put their trust. His virtues --<br>
'Tis not his virtues, but his name alone<br>
they wish to thrust upon us. -- 'Tis his name <br>
which they desire should overspread the world,<br>
should swallow up the name of all good men, <br>
and put the best to shame. Tis his mere name <br>
they care for --<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwisedramat01lessuoft/page/72/mode/2up?q=christ">Taylor</a> (1790)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou dost not know the Christians, wilt not know them.<br>
Their pride, that is: the Christian; not the Man. <br>
For even what, still coming from their founder, <br>
With human worth, imbibes their superstition, <br>
Is not adored by them, because 'tis human: <br>
No, but because Christ taught, Christ acted so. -- <br>
'Tis well for them, that yet so good a man <br>
He was! 'Tis well for them, that they may take <br>
His virtue granted, and on faith! -- But what <br>
Of virtue! -- Not his Virtue; no, his Name <br>
They wish to spread all o'er the world; his name <br>
Shall stigmatize the names of all good men,<br>
And swallow them. The name, and but the name, -- <br>
That's what they cherish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwiseadram00reicgoog/page/n90/mode/2up?q=christ">Reich</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You do not, will not, know the Christian race. <br>
It is their pride not to be men, but Christians. <br>
The virtue which their founder felt and taught, <br>
The charity He mingled with their creed, <br>
Is valued, not because it is humane, <br>
And good, and lovely, but for this alone, <br>
That it was Christ who taught it, Christ who did it. <br>
;Tis well for them He was so good a man. <br>
Well that they take His goodness all on trust. <br>
And in His virtues put their faith. His virtues! <br>
'Tis not His virtues, but His name alone <br>
They wish to thrust upon us -- His mere name, <br>
Which they desire should overspread the world, <br>
Should swallow up the name of all good men. <br>
And put the rest to shame. 'Tis for His name <br>
Alone they care.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwise00less/page/48/mode/2up?q=christ">Boylan</a> (1878)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou knowest not the christians, will'st not know them:<br>
Their pride is to be Christians, and not <i>men.</i><br>
For even that which from their Founder's time<br>
Seasons their superstition with humanity, --<br>
That love they not because 'tis human; -- no,<br>
Because Christ taught it and Christ practised it.<br>
'Tis well for them that he was really such<br>
A good man! Well, that they can take on trust <br>
His virtue! Yet what speak I of his virtue?<br>
'Tis not his virtue, 'tis his name alone,<br>
That over all the earth shall spread abroad,<br>
To put to scorn and swallow up the name<br>
Of every other good man. 'Tis the name,<br>
The name alone they care for, they.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lessing_s_Nathan_the_wise_tr_by_E_K_Corb/GW8CAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22their%20pride%20is%20to%20be%20christians%22">Corbett</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou knowest the Christians not -- wilt not know them.<br>
Their pride is to be Christians -- not men. For <br>
Even that humanity, which by their Founder <br>
Was rooted in their superstition, that love they <br>
Not because it is humane, but because <br>
He taught it -- because so Christ hath done. <br>
Tis well for them He was indeed so<br>
Good a man. 'Tis well for them that they<br>
His virtue can accept on faith, and on belief.<br>
His virtue say I? Not His virtue. His name alone<br>
Shall over all be spread, and shall the name<br>
Of all good men shame and destroy. The name --<br>
And nothing but the name -- is their concern.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwiseadram01jackgoog/page/n72/mode/2up?q=%22christ+hath%22">Jacks</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You do not know the Christians, don’t want to know them. Their pride is to be Christians, not men. Because even what leavens superstition with mitigating aspects, -- dating back to their founder -- they don’t love because it is human. (They love it) because Christ teaches it, because Christ has done it. Lucky they that such a good man existed yet! Lucky they that they can take his virtue on faith and belief! But what virtue? Not his virtue, his <i>name</i> is to be propagated everywhere, is to desecrate the name of all good men, devour it. For the <i>name,</i> for the name only, they care.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwise0000unse_d8g5/page/32/mode/2up?q=%22you+do+not+know+the%22">Reinhardt</a> (1950)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You do not know the Christians, will not know them.<br>
Their pride is to be Christians, and not men. <br>
For even that which from their Founder’s day <br>
With human nature spices superstition <br>
They don’t love for its human worth: because <br>
Their Jesus taught it, by him it was done. -- <br>
O well for them, that he was a good man! <br>
And well for them, that they can take his virtue <br>
On faith! -- But what of virtue? -- It’s not that <br>
Shall overspread the world, but just his name; <br>
That name shall swallow all the names of men,<br>
Put them to shame. The name, the name alone,<br>
Is all they care for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwise0000unse/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22Their+pride+is+to+be%22">Morgan</a> (1955), l. 72ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You don't know Christians, and you'll never know them. Their pride's not to be men, its to be Christians. Even humanity -- which from the days of their dear Lord Jesus Christ has lessened superstition -- they love, not for its human quality, but only because Christ taught it and showed it in His deeds. It is indeed a blessing that He was so good a man, a man in whose virtues they can place their entire faith! But are His virtues really theirs? No, not at all, it's not His virtues but His name that they attempt to spread throughout the world and, in so doing, cloud with slander and obliterate the names of all good men. The name alone is everything to these Christians.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nathanwise0000less/page/38/mode/2up?q=christ">Ade</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 2 &#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221; Canto 10, l. 121ff (10.121-129) (1314) [tr. Sayers (1955)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, proud Christians, faint with misery,<br />
<span class="tab">So warped of vision in the inward sense<br />
<span class="tab">You trust in your backslidings! Don&#8217;t you see<br />
That we are worms, whose insignificance<br />
<span class="tab">Lives but to form the angelic butterfly<br />
<span class="tab">That flits to judgement naked of defence?<br />
Why do you let pretension soar so high,<br />
<span class="tab">Being as it were but larvae &#8212; grubs that lack<br />
<span class="tab">The finished form that shall be by and by?</p>
<p><em>[O superbi Cristian, miseri lassi!<br />
<span class="tab">Che, della vista della mente infermi,<br />
<span class="tab">Fidanza avete ne&#8217; ritrosi passi;<br />
Non v&#8217; accorgete voi, che noi siam vermi<br />
<span class="tab">Nati a formar l&#8217; angelica farfalla,<br />
<span class="tab">Che vola alla giustizia senza schermi?<br />
Di che l&#8217; animo vostro in alto galla,<br />
<span class="tab">Poi siete quasi entomata in difetto,<br />
<span class="tab">Sì come verme, in cui formazion falla?]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 2 <i>&#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221;</i> Canto 10, l. 121ff (10.121-129) (1314) [tr. Sayers (1955)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteali00alig/page/146/mode/2up?q=%22proud+christians%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Criticizing prideful Christians.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Purgatorio/Canto_X#:~:text=O%20superbi%20cristian,cui%20formazion%20falla%3F">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>O, miserable Pride! of Blindness born!<br>
Vile retrograde Ambition! theme of Scorn!<br>
<span class="tab">Can Reptiles in the dust, of dust be proud? --<br>
Boast of their meanness, falsify their end;<br>
From their immortal hopes at once descend.<br>
<span class="tab">And let a dowerless Vice their prospects cloud? --<br>
<br>
As Reptiles, who their painted plumes display, <br>
(Tho; crawling once in dust,) and wing their way<br>
<span class="tab">On Summer-buxom gales, and claim the Sky: <br>
Thus were ye born, and thus you claim your flight <br>
To the pure Precincts of celestial Light,<br>
<span class="tab">If on no fpurious Pride your hopes rely.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediad00unkngoog/page/n160/mode/2up?q=%22O%2C+miferable+Pride%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 23-24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Christians and proud! O poor and wretched ones!<br>
<span class="tab">That feeble in the mind’s eye, lean your trust<br>
<span class="tab">Upon unstaid perverseness! Know ye not<br>
That we are worms, yet made at last to form<br>
<span class="tab">The winged insect, imp’d with angel plumes<br>
<span class="tab">That to heaven’s justice unobstructed soars?<br>
Why buoy ye up aloft your unfleg’d souls?<br>
<span class="tab">Abortive then and shapeless ye remain,<br>
<span class="tab">Like the untimely embryon of a worm!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8795/8795-h/8795-h.htm#cantoII.10:~:text=Christians%20and%20proud,of%20a%20worm!">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O haughty Christians! miserable, alas!<br>
<span class="tab">From mental sight to weakness that's allied,<br>
<span class="tab">Confiding in perverseness and in pride,<br>
Perceive ye not we are but merely worms,<br>
<span class="tab">Born embryo of angelic butterfly,<br>
<span class="tab">Which, unrestrained, to justice flies on high,<br>
Where is the object of your souring flight?<br>
<span class="tab">Insect, in whom defecta lone prevails,<br>
<span class="tab">And worm, in which the true formatiln fails.v
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/206/mode/2up?q=%22miserable+alas%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O ye proud Christians! wretched, weary ones!<br>
<span class="tab">Who, in the vision of the mind infirm<br>
<span class="tab">Confidence have in your backsliding steps,<br>
Do ye not comprehend that we are worms,<br>
<span class="tab">Born to bring forth the angelic butterfly<br>
<span class="tab">That flieth unto judgment without screen?<br>
Why floats aloft your spirit high in air?<br>
<span class="tab">Like are ye unto insects undeveloped,<br>
<span class="tab">Even as the worm in whom formation fails!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_2/Canto_10#:~:text=O%20ye%20proud,whom%20formation%20fails!">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O proud Christians, wretched and weary, who, weak in the sight of the mind, have confidence in your backward paces, do ye not perceive that we are worms, born to form the angelic butterfly which flies without screen to the judgement? In respect of what does your mind float on high, since ye are as it were defective insects, like a worm in which formative power is in default?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorydantea00aliggoog/page/n140/mode/2up?q=%22proud+Christians%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Proud Christians, wretched, weary, and undone! <br>
<span class="tab">Who of your mental sight are so bereaved <br>
<span class="tab">That ye have faith in backward paths alone;<br>
That we are worms have ye not yet perceived, <br>
<span class="tab">Born but to form the Angelic butterfly <br>
<span class="tab">That soareth up to judgment unreprieved?<br>
Of what your spirit doth it vaunt so high? <br>
<span class="tab">Since ye are unformed insects at the best, <br>
<span class="tab">Worms as it were unfinished utterly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22Proud+Christians%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O proud Christians, wretched weary ones, who, diseased in vision of the mind, have confidence in backward steps, are ye not aware that we are worms born to form the angelic butterfly which flies unto judgment without defence? Why doth your mind float up aloft, since ye are as it were defective insects, even as a worm in which formation fails?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1996/1996-h/1996-h.htm#cantoII.X:~:text=O%20proud%20Christians,which%20formation%20fails%3F">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">O ye proud Christians, wretched and weary, who, sick in mental vision, put trust in backward steps, <br>
<span class="tab">perceive ye not that we are worms, born to form the angelic butterfly that flieth to judgment without defence? <br>
<span class="tab">Why doth your mind soar on high, since ye are as 'twere imperfect insects, even as the grub in which full form is wanting?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorioofdant00dant_0/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22ye+proud+Christians%22">Okey</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vainglorious Christians, weary wretches who are sick in the mind's vision and put your trust in backward steps, do you not perceive that we are worms born to form the angelic butterfly that soars to judgement without defence? Why does your mind float so high, since you are as it were imperfect insects, like the worm that is undeveloped?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/iipurgatoriowith00dant/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22vainglorious+Christians%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O ye proud Christians, weary and sad of brow,<br>
<span class="tab">Who, tainted in the vision of the mind,<br>
<span class="tab">In backward steps your confidence avow,<br>
Preceive ye not that we are worms, designed<br>
<span class="tab">To form the angelic butterfly, that goes<br>
<span class="tab">To judgment, leaving all defence behind?<br>
Why doth your mind take such exalted pose,<br>
<span class="tab">Since ye, disabled, are as insects, mean<br>
<span class="tab">As worm which never transformation knows?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/238/mode/2up?q=butterfly">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O you proud Christians, wretched souls and small, <br>
<span class="tab">who by the dim lights of your twisted minds <br>
<span class="tab">believe you prosper even as you fall --<br>
can you not see that we awer works, each one<br>
<span class="tab">born to become the Angelic butterfly<br>
<span class="tab">that flies defenseless to the Judgment Throne?<br>
what have your souls to boast of and be proud?<br>
<span class="tab">You are no more than insects, incomplete<br>
<span class="tab">as any grub until it burst the shroud.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio00dant/page/116/mode/1up?q=%22o+you+proud+christians%22">Ciardi</a> (1961)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O proud Christians, wretched and weary, who, sick in mental vision, put trust in backward steps: are you not aware that we are worms, born to form the angelic butterfly that flies until judgment without defenses? Why does your mind soar up aloft, since you are as it wer imperfect insects, even as the worm in which full form is wanting?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_II_Purgatorio_Vol_II_P/2Q48EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=o%20proud%20christians">Singleton</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O haughty Christians, wretched, sluggish souls, <br>
<span class="tab">all you whose inner vision is diseased, <br>
<span class="tab">putting your trust in things that pull you back,<br>
do you not understand that we are worms, <br>
<span class="tab">each born to form the angelic butterfly, <br>
<span class="tab">that flies defenseless to the Final Judge?<br>
Why do your souls’ pretensions rise so high, <br>
<span class="tab">since you are but defective insects still, <br>
<span class="tab">worms as yet imperfectly evolved?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantealighierisd03dant/page/98/mode/2up?q=%22o+haughty+christians%22">Musa</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O proud Christians, wretched and exhausted, <br>
<span class="tab">Who, sick in mind, and not seeing aright, <br>
<span class="tab">Go confidently in the wrong direction;<br>
Do you not perceive that we are grubs, <br>
<span class="tab">Born to turn into the angelic butterfly <br>
<span class="tab">Which flies towards justice without defence?<br>
Why does your mind float aloft <br>
<span class="tab">Since you are no more than defective insects, <br>
<span class="tab">Like the grub which has not reached its full development?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/242/mode/2up?q=butterfly">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>O Christians, arrogant, exhausted, wretched,<br>
<span class="tab">Whose intellects are sick and cannot see,<br>
<span class="tab">Who place your confidence in backward steps,<br>
Do you not know that we are worms and born<br>
<span class="tab">To form the angelic butterfly that soars,<br>
<span class="tab">Without defenses, to confront His judgment?<br>
Why does your mind presume to flight when you<br>
<span class="tab">Are still like the imperfect grub, the worm<br>
<span class="tab">Before it has attained its final form?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio0000dant_m5q7/page/90/mode/2up?q=%22arrogant%2C+exhausted%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1982)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">O proud Christians, weary wretches, who, weak in mental vision, put your faith in backward steps,<br>
<span class="tab">do you not perceive that we are worms born to form the angelic butterfly that flies to justice without a shield?<br>
<span class="tab">Why is it that your spirit floats on high, since you are like defective insects, like worms in whom formation is lacking?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0002dant_d4k9/page/164/mode/2up?q=%22why+is+it+that%22">Durling</a> (2003)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O proud Christians, weary and wretched, who, infirm in the mind’s vision, put your trust in downward steps: do you not see that we are caterpillars, born to form the angelic butterfly, that flies to judgement without defence? Why does your mind soar to the heights, since you are defective insects, even as the caterpillar is, in which the form is lacking?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantPurg8to14.php#anchor_Toc64099585:~:text=O%20proud%20Christians,form%20is%20lacking%3F">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Proud Christians, wretched and — alas! — so tired,<br>
<span class="tab">who, feeble in your powers of mental sight, <br>
<span class="tab">place so much faith in your own backward tread,<br>
do you not recognize that you are worms <br>
<span class="tab">born to become angelic butterflies <br>
<span class="tab">that fly to justice with no veil between?<br>
Why is it that your thoughts float up so high? <br>
<span class="tab">You, with your faults, are little more than grubs, <br>
<span class="tab">chrysalides (no more!) that lack full form.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy2pur0000dant/page/92/mode/2up?q=%22proud+christians%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vainglorious Christians, miserable wretches!<br>
<span class="tab">Sick in the visions engendered in your minds,<br>
<span class="tab">you put your trust in backward steps.<br>
Do you not see that we are born as worms,<br>
<span class="tab">though able to transform into angelic butterflies<br>
<span class="tab">that unimpeded soar to justice?<br>
What makes your mind rear up so high?<br>
<span class="tab">You are, as it were, defective creatures,<br>
<span class="tab">like the unformed worm, shaped from the mud.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?INP_POEM=Purg&INP_SECT=10&INP_START=121&INP_LEN=9&LANG=0">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>O haughty Christians, miserable and weary,<br>
<span class="tab">Driven by sickness rioting in your mind,<br>
<span class="tab">Placing eternal trust in what walks backward,<br>
Unable to see that human beings are worms,<br>
<span class="tab">Born to create angelic butterflies<br>
<span class="tab">That fly to God's judgment, needing no other protection.<br>
Why do you let your mind soar into Heaven,<br>
<span class="tab">Since what you truly are is imperfect insects,<br>
<span class="tab">Just as the worm must wait to come into being?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22haughty%20christians%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable. Widely attributed to Manning (1, 2, 3), though I cannot find an original citation. See King.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.</p>
<br><b>Brennan Manning</b> (1934-2013) American author, laicized priest, theologian, speaker [Richard Francis Xavier Manning]<br>(Attributed) 
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Widely attributed to Manning (<a href="https://relevantmagazine.com/faith/ragamuffin-legacy/">1</a>, <a href="https://www.charismanews.com/us/39076-ragamuffin-author-brennan-manning-dies#:~:text=%22The%20greatest%20single%20cause%20of%20atheism%20in%20the%20world%20today%20is%20Christians%20who%20acknowledge%20Jesus%20with%20their%20lips%20and%20walk%20out%20the%20door%20and%20deny%20Him%20by%20their%20lifestyle%2C%22%20Manning%20wrote.%20%22That%20is%20what%20an%20unbelieving%20world%20simply%20finds%20unbelievable.%E2%80%9D">2</a>, <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780801012068/page/1122/mode/2up?q=%22unbelieving+world+simply+finds+unbelievable%22">3</a>), though I cannot find an original citation.<br><br>

See <a href="https://wist.info/king-martin-luther/36442/">King</a>.

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		<title>Twain, Mark -- Note (1898-07-04), Mark Twain&#8217;s Notebook, ch. 21 &#8220;In Vienna&#8221; (1935) [ed. Albert Bigelow Paine]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has only been one Christian. They caught Him and crucified Him early.</p>
<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br>Note (1898-07-04), <i>Mark Twain&#8217;s Notebook</i>, ch. 21 &#8220;In Vienna&#8221; (1935) [ed. Albert Bigelow Paine] 
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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- Mere Christianity, ch. 10 &#8220;Nice People or New Men&#8221; (1952)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If conversion to Christianity makes no improvements in a man&#8217;s outward actions &#8212; if he continues to be just as snobbish or spiteful or envious or ambitious as he was before &#8212; then I think we must suspect that his &#8220;conversion&#8221; was largely imaginary; and after one&#8217;s original conversion, every time one thinks one has made an advance, that is the test to apply. Fine feelings, new insights, greater interest in &#8220;religion&#8221; mean nothing unless they make our actual behavior better.</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br><i>Mere Christianity</i>, ch. 10 &#8220;Nice People or New Men&#8221; (1952) 
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		<title>Angelou, Maya -- &#8220;The Art of Fiction,&#8221; Paris Review, #116, Interview with George Plimpton (1990)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working at trying to be a good Christian, and that&#8217;s serious business. It&#8217;s like trying to be a good Jew, a good Muslim, a good Buddhist, a good Shintoist, a good Zoroastrian, a good friend, a good lover, a good mother, a good buddy &#8212; it&#8217;s serious business. It&#8217;s not something where you think, Oh, I&#8217;ve got it done. I did it all day, hotdiggety. The truth is, all day long you try to do it, try to be it, and then in the evening if you&#8217;re honest and have a little courage you look at yourself and say, Hmm. I only blew it eighty-six times. Not bad.</p>
<br><b>Maya Angelou</b> (1928-2014) American poet, memoirist, activist [b. Marguerite Ann Johnson]<br>&#8220;The Art of Fiction,&#8221; <i>Paris Review</i>, #116, Interview with George Plimpton (1990) 
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		<title>Sunday, Billy -- In William T. Ellis, &#8220;Billy&#8221; Sunday, The Man and his Message, ch. 12 (1914)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to church doesn&#8217;t make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile.</p>
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<br><b>William Ashley "Billy" Sunday</b> (1862-1935) American athlete, evangelist, preacher<br>In William T. Ellis, <em>&#8220;Billy&#8221; Sunday, The Man and his Message</em>, ch. 12 (1914) 
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		<title>Adams, Abigail -- Letter to John Quincy Adams (5 May 1816)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I acknowledge myself a unitarian &#8212; Believing that the Father alone, is the supreme God, and that Jesus Christ derived his Being, and all his powers and honors from the Father. [&#8230;] There is not any reasoning which can convince me, contrary to my senses, that three is one, and one three.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I acknowledge myself a unitarian &#8212; Believing that the Father alone, is the supreme God, and that Jesus Christ derived his Being, and all his powers and honors from the Father. [&#8230;] There is not any reasoning which can convince me, contrary to my senses, that three is one, and one three.</p>
<br><b>Abigail Adams</b> (1744-1818) American correspondent, First Lady (1797-1801)<br>Letter to John Quincy Adams (5 May 1816) 
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<br><b>Bill Hicks</b> (1961-1994) American stand-up comedian, social critic, satirist, musician [William Melvin "Bill" Hicks]<br><i>Filling Up the Hump</i> (1993) 
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		<title>Brooks, Thomas -- Precious Remedies Against Satan&#8217;s Devices, &#8220;A Word to the Reader&#8221; (1652)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah! how many Judases have we in these days, that kiss Christ, and yet betray Christ; that in their words profess him, but in their works deny him; that bow their knee to him, and yet in their hearts despise him; that call him Jesus, and yet will not obey him for their Lord.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! how many Judases have we in these days, that kiss Christ, and yet betray Christ; that in their words profess him, but in their works deny him; that bow their knee to him, and yet in their hearts despise him; that call him Jesus, and yet will not obey him for their Lord.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Brooks</b> (1608-1680) English Puritan divine, writer<br><i>Precious Remedies Against Satan&#8217;s Devices</i>, &#8220;A Word to the Reader&#8221; (1652) 
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		<title>Mencken, H. L. -- &#8220;Mr. Mencken Sounds Off,&#8221; interview, LIFE Magazine (5 Aug 1946)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians. </p>
<br><b>H. L. Mencken</b> (1880-1956) American writer and journalist [Henry Lewis Mencken]<br>&#8220;Mr. Mencken Sounds Off,&#8221; interview, <i>LIFE Magazine</i> (5 Aug 1946) 
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 3 &#8220;Paradiso,&#8221; Canto 19, l. 206ff (19.106-108) [The Eagle] (1320) [tr. Ciardi (1970)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But see how many now cry out “Christ! Christ!” Who shall be farther from him at the Judgment Than many who, on earth, did not know Christ. &#160; [Ma vedi: molti gridan &#8220;Cristo, Cristo!&#8221;, che saranno in giudicio assai men prope a lui, che tal che non conosce Cristo.] The Eagle, speaking to Dante. See [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But see how many now cry out “Christ! Christ!”<br />
<span class="tab">Who shall be farther from him at the Judgment<br />
<span class="tab">Than many who, on earth, did not know Christ.<br />
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<em>[Ma vedi: molti gridan &#8220;Cristo, Cristo!&#8221;,<br />
<span class="tab">che saranno in giudicio assai men prope<br />
<span class="tab">a lui, che tal che non conosce Cristo.]</span></span></em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 3 <i>&#8220;Paradiso,&#8221;</i> Canto 19, l. 206ff (19.106-108) [The Eagle] (1320) [tr. Ciardi (1970)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/paradisoverseren00dant/page/n219/mode/2up?q=%22see+how+many+now%22&view=theater" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The Eagle, speaking to Dante.  See the Bible, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%207%3A21-23&version=KJV">Matt. 7:21-23</a> and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%208%3A11-12&version=KJV">Matt. 8:11-12</a>.<br><br>

<a href="https://archive.org/details/paradisoverseren00dant/page/n223/mode/2up?q=%22dante+rhymes+the+name%22&view=theater">Ciardi</a> and <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesparadise0000dant/page/174/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ+christ%22">Musa</a> note how here, as elsewhere, Dante only rhymes the name of Christ with itself.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Paradiso/Canto_XIX#:~:text=Ma%20vedi%3A%20molti%20gridan%20%22Cristo%2C%20Cristo!%22%2C%0Ache%20saranno%20in%20giudicio%20assai%20men%20prope%0Aa%20lui%2C%20che%20tal%20che%20non%20conosce%20Cristo">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>But many on his Name with boldness call, <br>
Who underneath his righteous doom shall fall,<br>
<span class="tab">When virtuous Pagans soar to endless day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof03dantuoft/page/236/mode/2up?q=%22boldnefs+call%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But lo! of those<br>
Who call ‘Christ, Christ,’ there shall be many found,<br>
<span class="tab">In judgment, further off from him by far,<br>
<span class="tab">Than such, to whom his name was never known.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8799/8799-h/8799-h.htm#cantoIII.19:~:text=But%20lo!%20of%20those%0AWho%20call%20%E2%80%98Christ%2C%20Christ%2C%E2%80%99%20there%20shall%20be%20many%20found%2C%0AIn%20judgment%2C%20further%20off%20from%20him%20by%20far%2C%0AThan%20such%2C%20to%20whom%20his%20name%20was%20never%20known.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But, mark ! many a one shall call 'Christ, Christ,'<br>
<span class="tab">Who, in the judgment, shall be far less near<br>
<span class="tab">Than those who never chanced his name to hear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/412/mode/2up?q=%22shall+call+%27+Christ%2C+Christ%2C%27%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But look thou, many crying are, 'Christ, Christ!'<br>
<span class="tab">Who at the judgment shall be far less near<br>
<span class="tab">To him than some shall be who knew not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_3/Canto_19#:~:text=But%20look%20thou%2C%20many%20crying%20are%2C%20%27Christ%2C%20Christ!%27%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Who%20at%20the%20judgment%20shall%20be%20far%20less%20near%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0To%20him%20than%20some%20shall%20be%20who%20knew%20not%20Christ.">Longfellow</a> (1867)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But behold, many cry, Christ, Christ, who in the judgement shall be far less near to Him than such an one that knew not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/paradisedanteal00aliggoog/page/n278/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But many wilt thou see who cry, Christ, Christ!<br>
<span class="tab">Who in the judgment-day will be less near<br>
<span class="tab">To Him than some who never heard of Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/334/mode/2up?q=%22who+cry%2C+Christ%2C+Christ+%21%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But behold, many cry Christ, Christ, who, at the Judgment, shall be far less near to him, than such an one who knew not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1997/1997-h/1997-h.htm#cantoIII.XIX:~:text=But%20behold%2C%20many%20cry%20Christ%2C%20Christ%2C%20who%2C%20at%20the%20Judgment%2C%20shall%20be%20far%20less%20near%20to%20him%2C%20than%20such%20an%20one%20who%20knew%20not%20Christ">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But note, many cry Christ, Christ! who shall be far less near to Him at the Judgement than such as know not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0000dant/page/276/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But look! how many are crying: ‘Christ! Christ!’ <br>
<span class="tab">Who at the day of judgment shall be far <br>
<span class="tab">Less near to him than such as knew not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesparadisowi0000laur/page/224/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But see! full many shall cry aloud: <i>Christ! Christ!</i><br>
<span class="tab">Who in the Last Day shall be sent to lodge<br>
<span class="tab">Farther from Him than they who know not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/3CcIPOSNMtsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22christ%20christ%20who%22">Sayers/Reynolds</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But see: many there are who cry “Christ, Christ"<br>
<span class="tab">Who at the judgement will be much less near <br>
<span class="tab">To him than some who do not know Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/434/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But there are many who now cry ‘Christ! Christ!’ <br>
<span class="tab">who at the Final Judgment shall be far <br>
<span class="tab">less close to Him than one who knows not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/paradiso0000dant_k1w9/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1984)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But then there are all those who cry, ‘Christ, Christ!’ <br>
<span class="tab">and at the Judgment Day will be less close <br>
<span class="tab">to Him than will be those who know not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesparadise0000dant/page/228/mode/2up?q=%22cry+christ+christ%22">Musa</a> (1984)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But see: many cry Christ, Christ! who at the judgment will be much less <i>prope</i> to him, than someone who does not know Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0000dant_e4e9/page/384/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Durling</a> (2011)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But see, many call out: “Christ, Christ” who shall be further from Him at the Judgement, than those who do not know of Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantPar15to21.php#anchor_Toc64099914:~:text=But%20see%2C%20many%20call%20out%3A%20%E2%80%9CChrist%2C%20Christ%E2%80%9D%20who%20shall%20be%20further%20from%20Him%20at%20the%20Judgement%2C%20than%20those%20who%20do%20not%20know%20of%20Christ">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But see this: many cry out: “Christ! Christ! Christ!”<br>
<span class="tab">Yet many will, come Judgement, be to Him less <i>prope</i> <br>
<span class="tab">than are those who don’t know Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy3par0000dant/mode/2up?q=%22christ+christ%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But observe that many shout out 'Christ, O Christ!'<br>
<span class="tab">who shall be farther off from Him,<br>
<span class="tab">on Judgment Day, than such as know not Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?INP_POEM=Par&INP_SECT=19&INP_START=106&INP_LEN=3&LANG=0">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And yet there are many crying out His name<br>
<span class="tab">Who at the Day of Judgment will be farther away<br>
<span class="tab">From Him than he who has never heard of Christ.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22many%20crying%20out%20his%20name%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Bierce, Ambrose -- &#8220;Christian,&#8221; The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book (1906)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. One who follows the teachings of Christ in so far as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin. Included in The Devil&#8217;s Dictionary (1911).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRISTIAN, <em>n.</em> One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. One who follows the teachings of Christ in so far as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin.</p>
<br><b>Ambrose Bierce</b> (1842-1914?) American writer and journalist<br>&#8220;Christian,&#8221; <i>The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book</i> (1906) 
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