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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 12, epigram  13 (12.13) (AD 101) [tr. Michie (1972)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rich know anger helps the cost of living: Hating&#8217;s more economical than giving. [Genus, Aucte, lucri divites habent iram: Odisse, quam donare, vilius constat.] &#8220;To Auctus.&#8221; Closely parallel to 3.37, to the point where some translations are cross-applied in error. The general interpretation, from Ker, is that &#8220;picking quarrels with clients saves you giving [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rich know anger helps the cost of living:<br />
Hating&#8217;s more economical than giving.</p>
<p><em>[Genus, Aucte, lucri divites habent iram:<br />
Odisse, quam donare, vilius constat.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  13 (12.13) (AD 101) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
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"To Auctus." Closely parallel to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/53494/">3.37</a>, to the point where some translations are cross-applied in error. The general interpretation, from <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22picking%20quarrels%22">Ker</a>, is that "picking quarrels with clients saves you giving them presents."<br><br> 

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.13">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Anger's a kind of gain that rich men know:<br>
It costs them less to hate than to bestow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA550">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, my friend, by anger know to thrive.<br>
'Tis cheaper much to quarrel, than to give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22anger%20know%20to%20thrive%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From ire can gainmongers elicit ore.<br>
Fell hate is frugal: love might lavish more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=gainmongers">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.68]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ask you, last night, why Gripus ill behaved?<br>
A well-timed quarrel is a dinner saved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA550">Halhead</a> (1793)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich, Auctus, make a species of gain out of anger.<br> 
It is cheaper to get into a passion than to give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=The%20rich%2C%20Auctus%2C%20make%20a%20species%20of%20gain%20out%20of%20anger.%20It%20is%20cheaper%20to%20get%20into%20a%20passion%20than%20to%20give.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, Auctus, regard anger as a kind of profit; <br>
to hate is cheaper than to give!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22rich%20men,%20auctus%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich feign wrath -- a profitable plan;<br>
'Tis cheaper far to hate than help a man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/376/mode/2up?q=%22rich+feign+wrath%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, Auctus, think of anger as a sort of moneymaking:<br> 
hating comes cheaper than giving.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-11-14-3-0674995295-9780674995291-k-4493753.html#:~:text=Rieh%20men%2C%20Auctus%2C%20think%20of%20anger%20as%20a%20sort%20of%20moneymaking%3A%20hating%20comes%20cheaper%20than%20giving.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich pick fights and cause unpleasance:<br>
Hate is cheaper than giving presents.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich believe it pays to get irate --<br>
to give is costlier, Auctus, than to hate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22pays%20to%20get%20irate%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 12, epigram  68 (12.68) (AD 101) [tr. Hay (1755)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thou morning client, this is my retreat: Go to the town and palace of the great. No lawyer I, nor can your cause defend; But old, and idle, and the muse&#8217;s friend. Ease and repose I love, but if in vain I seek them here; why not to town again? [Matutine cliens, urbis mihi causa [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thou morning client, this is my retreat:<br />
<span class="tab">Go to the town and palace of the great.<br />
No lawyer I, nor can your cause defend;<br />
<span class="tab">But old, and idle, and the muse&#8217;s friend.<br />
Ease and repose I love, but if in vain<br />
<span class="tab">I seek them here; why not to town again?</p>
<p><em>[Matutine cliens, urbis mihi causa relictae,<br />
Atria, si sapias, ambitiosa colas.<br />
Non sum ego causidicus, nec amaris litibus aptus,<br />
Sed piger et senior Pieridumque comes;<br />
tia me somnusque iuvant, quae magna negavit<br />
Roma mihi: redeo, si vigilatur et hic.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  68 (12.68) (AD 101) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
						<br><br><span class="cite">
						

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.68">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Whoe'er in town dist morning-homage pay,<br>
<span class="tab">And wast one cause, why thence I win'd my way;<br>
Hunt now ambition's hants, let me advise;<br>
<span class="tab">And learn, at least in this, learn to be wise.<br>
I am no brangler, nor can hairs untwine:<br>
<span class="tab">My growing age asks ease, yet woos the Nine.<br>
Scenes are my joy, for which at Rome I sigh'd:<br>
<span class="tab">But thither I return, if here deni'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA127&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Hunt%20now%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 2, ep. 136]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O clients, that beset me in the morning, and who were the cause of my departure from Rome, frequent, if you are wise, the lordly mansions of the city. I am no lawyer, nor fitted for pleading troublesome causes, but inactive, somewhat advanced in years, and a votary of the Pierian sisters. I wish to enjoy repose and slumber, which great Rome denied; but I must return thither, if I am to be equally hunted here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=O%20clients%2C%20that,equally%20hunted%20here.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Morning client, the cause of my leaving Rome, you would court, were you wise, the halls of greatness. No pleader am I, nor fitted for bitter lawsuits, but an indolent man and one growing old, and the comrade of the Muses. Ease and sleep attract me, and great Rome denied me these; I return if I am sleepless even here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22morning%20client%22&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I fled from Rome and early calls,<br>
<span class="tab">So, Spanish friends, I pray you,<br>
Be wise and seek the lordly halls<br>
<span class="tab">Of those who can repay you.<br>
I hate the courts, and legal strife<br>
<span class="tab">My lazy mind refuses,<br>
For I am getting on in life<br>
<span class="tab">And love to serve the Muses;<br>
Unbroken sleep I love; the stir<br>
<span class="tab">And din of Rome destroy it;<br>
But I am going back to her<br>
<span class="tab">If here I can't enjoy it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/394/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor morning client (you remind me<br>
<span class="tab">Of all I loathed and left behind me<br>
in Rome), if you had any nous<br>
<span class="tab">Instead of calling on my house<br>
You'd haunt the mansions of the great.<br>
<span class="tab">I'm not some wealthy advocate<br>
Blessed with a sharp, litigious tongue,<br>
<span class="tab">I'm just a lazy, far from young<br>
Friend of the Muses who likes ease<br>
<span class="tab">And sleep. Great Rome denied me these:<br>
If I can't find them even in Spain,<br>
<span class="tab">I may as well go back again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/174/mode/2up?q=%22morning+client%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Morning client, reason why I left Rome, if you were sensible, you wuiold dance attendance on pretentious halls. I am no advocate nor apt for bitter lawsuits, but lazy and elderly and a companion of the Pierian maids. I am fond of leisure and sleep, which great Rome denied me. If I'm kept awake here too, I go back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22morning+client%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want a patron, and you pester me --<br>
<span class="tab">Exactly what made me the City flee.<br>
You're not at some ambitious lawyer's door.<br>
<span class="tab">A poet now retired, I'd rather snore.<br>
If Rome you are inflicting on me here,<br>
<span class="tab">Then backward to the real one I must steer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT3&printsec=frontcover&bsq=12.68">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You early-morning client -- you're the reason I left Rome. If you had sense, you'd hang around the lobbies of people who care about appearances. I'm no barrister, I've no head for bitter litigation: I'm sleepy, I'm getting old, I hang out with the Muses; what I like is free time and sleep, the very things that mighty Rome wouldn't let me have. If there are early mornings even here, I'm going back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22reason%20I%20left%20rome%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Morning appointment -- my reason for leaving the city --<br>
If you knew better, you would visit more ambitious homes.<br>
I am no lawyer, no man prepared for harsh suits,<br>
I am a lazy and aging friend of the Muses.<br>
Sleep and leisure make me happy -- the very things<br>
Which Rome denied me. But I’ll go back if I can’t sleep here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2018/06/18/martial-on-his-summer-sleep-schedule/">@sentantiq</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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