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		<title>Horace -- Satires [Saturae, Sermones], Book 2, #  8 &#8220;Ut Nasidieni,&#8221; l.  73ff (2.8.73-74) (30 BC) [tr. Matthews (2002)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But like a general, a host displays his genius best under disaster. [Sed convivatoris uti ducis ingenium res Adversae nudare solent, celare secundae.] Balatro speaking somewhat sarcastically to the host, Nasidienus (Rufus), about the misfortunes that are &#8220;ruining&#8221; his dinner party. (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: But (General-like) Masters of Feasts reveal That temper by cross [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<br><b>Horace</b> (65–8 BC) Roman poet, satirist, soldier, politician [Quintus Horatius Flaccus]<br><i>Satires [Saturae, Sermones]</i>, Book 2, #  8 <i>&#8220;Ut Nasidieni,&#8221;</i> l.  73ff (2.8.73-74) (30 BC) [tr. Matthews (2002)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhorace0000hora_r9g5/page/88/mode/2up?q=%22like+a+general%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Balatro speaking somewhat sarcastically to the host, Nasidienus (Rufus), about the misfortunes that are "ruining" his dinner party.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0062%3Abook%3D2%3Apoem%3D8%3Acard%3D54#:~:text=sed%20convivatoris%2C%20uti%20ducis%2C%20ingenium%20res%0Aadversae%20nudare%20solent%2C%20celare%20secundae.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>But (General-like) Masters of Feasts reveal<br>
That temper by cross hits, the good conceal.<br>
[tr. "<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44478.0001.001;node=A44478.0001.001:7;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=But%20(General%2Dlike,the%20good%20conceal">I. W. Esq</a>"; ed. Brome (1666)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But as in Captains oft ill chance reveals<br>
The Entertainers Wit, which good conceals.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44471.0001.001;node=A44471.0001.001:7;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=But%20as%20in,which%20good%20conceals">Creech</a> (1684)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Good fortune hides, adversity calls forth, <br>
A landlord's genius, and a general's worth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresepistlesi00hora/page/158/mode/2up?q=%22Good+fortune+hides%22">Francis</a> (1747)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But then a host's, like a commander's, skill,<br>
Obscured by good success, shines forth in ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epodes_Satires_and_Epistles_of_Horac/TPgDAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22like%20a%20commander%27s%22">Howes</a> (1845)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But adversity is wont to disclose, prosperity to conceal, the abilities of a host as well as of a general.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_works_of_Horace/Second_Book_of_Satires#:~:text=But%20adversity%20is%20wont%20to%20disclose%2C%20prosperity%20to%20conceal%2C%20the%20abilities%20of%20a%20host%20as%20well%20as%20of%20a%20general.">Smart/Buckley</a> (1853)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But yet misfortune will bring forth to view the talents of a host as of a general, as will success conceal the same.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhoracei00hora/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22fortune+will+bring%22">Millington</a> (1870)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But gifts, concealed by sunshine, are displayed<br>
In hosts, as in commanders, by the shade.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Satires,_Epistles_%26_Art_of_Poetry_of_Horace/Sat2-8#:~:text=But%20gifts%2C%20concealed%20by%20sunshine%2C%20are%20displayed%0AIn%20hosts%2C%20as%20in%20commanders%2C%20by%20the%20shade.">Conington</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But as with a commander, so with a host -- it is rough weather that discovers the genius, fair weather puts it out of sight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Horace_for_English_Readers/fB8MAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22as%20with%20a%20commander%22">Wickham</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But one who entertains is like a general: mishaps oft reveal his genius, smooth going hides it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresepistlesa00horauoft/page/244/mode/2up?q=%22one+who+entertains%22">Fairclough</a> (Loeb) (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But the host plays a role like the general's:<br>
when things go wrong, his genius comes most into play;<br>
When the going is smooth, you'd never know he had any.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresanndepist0000hora/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22but+the+host+plays%22">Palmer Bovie</a> (1959)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But a party-giver's talent, like a general's, comes out<br>
in case of trouble, lies hidden when the going's good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/horacessatiresep0000hora/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22but+a+party-giver%27s%22">Fuchs</a> (1977)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But giving a banquet is like fighting a battle:<br>
A general's real talents show when he's losing, not winning in a walk.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essentialhoraceo0000hora/page/194/mode/2up?q=%22fighting+a+battle%22">Raffel</a> (1983)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But such adversities reveal,<br>
while prosperities conceal, the true qualities<br>
of a host which are like those of a general.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeodessati0000hora/page/310/mode/2up?q=%22such+adversities%22">Alexander</a> (1999)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But as with a general so with a host: adverse fortune<br>
has a way of revealing his genius; good fortune obscures it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhoracep00hora/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22as+with+a+general%22">Rudd</a> (2005 ed.)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But as with a general, so a host: adversity<br>
Often reveals his genius, success conceals it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.php#anchor_Toc98155285:~:text=But%20as%20with,success%20conceals%20it.">Kline</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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