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		<title>La Rochefoucauld, Francois -- Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims], ¶554 (1665-1678) [tr. FitzGibbon (1957), ¶524]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We only criticize ourselves in order to win the praise of others. [On ne se blâme que pour être loué.] This maxim came from the 6th ed. (1693), published by Barbin more than twelve years after La Rochefoucauld&#8217;s death. It is not present in many collections. Compare to ¶149 and ¶327. (Source (French)). Alternate translations: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only criticize ourselves in order to win the praise of others.</p>
<p><em>[On ne se blâme que pour être loué.]</em></p>
<br><b>François VI, duc de La Rochefoucauld</b> (1613-1680) French epigrammatist, memoirist, noble<br><i>Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims]</i>, ¶554 (1665-1678) [tr. FitzGibbon (1957), ¶524] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsofducdelar0000laro/page/134/mode/2up?q=%22we+only+criticize%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This maxim came from <a href="https://gutenberg.org/files/9105/9105-h/9105-h.htm#:~:text=The%20fifty%20following%20Maxims%20are%20taken%20from%20the%20Sixth%20Edition%20of%20the%20Pens%C3%A9es%20De%20La%20Rochefoucauld%2C%20published%20by%20Claude%20Barbin%2C%20in%201693%2C%20more%20than%20twelve%20years%20after%20the%20death%20of%20the%20author%20(17th%20May%2C%201680)">the 6th ed. (1693)</a>, published by Barbin more than twelve years after La Rochefoucauld's death. It is not present in many collections.<br><br>

Compare to <a href="https://wist.info/la-rochefoucauld-francois/75778/">¶149</a> and <a href="https://wist.info/la-rochefoucauld-francois/2378/">¶327</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/%C5%92uvres_de_La_Rochefoucauld_-_T.1/R%C3%A9flexions_ou_sentences_et_maximes_morales#cite_note-251:~:text=On%20ne%20se%20bl%C3%A2me%20que%20pour%20%C3%AAtre%20lou%C3%A9">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>We blame ourselves only to extort praise.<br>
[pub. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsandmoralr00rochgoog/page/n113/mode/2up?q=%22We+blame+ourfelves%22">Donaldson</a> (1783), ¶363]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When we seem to blame ourselves; we mean only to extort praise.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044019833292&view=2up&seq=88&skin=2021&q1=%22blame%20ourselves%22">Carvill</a> (1835), ¶318]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Man only blames himself in order that he may be praised.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/files/9105/9105-h/9105-h.htm#:~:text=Man%20only%20blames%20himself%20in%20order%20that%20he%20may%20be%20praised.">Bund/Friswell</a> (1871), 1693 ed.] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We only blame ourselves in order to be praised.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maxims0000laro/page/104/mode/2up?q=%22blame+ourselves%22">Tancock</a> (1959), ¶554]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Chalmers, Thomas -- Journal (1810-05-10)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guard against that vanity which courts a compliment, or is fed by it.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guard against that vanity which courts a compliment, or is fed by it. </p>
<br><b>Thomas Chalmers</b> (1780-1847) Scottish minister, theologian, political economist, church leader<br>Journal (1810-05-10) 
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		<title>Rogers, Will -- Column (1923-03-11), &#8220;Weekly Article: We Need More Fred Stones&#8221; [No. 13]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hunt out and talk about the good that is in the other fellow&#8217;s church, not the bad, and you will do away with all this religious hatred you hear so much of nowadays. Collected in The Illiterate Digest, &#8220;What We Need Is More Fred Stones&#8221; (1924),]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunt out and talk about the good that is in the other fellow&#8217;s church, not the bad, and you will do away with all this religious hatred you hear so much of nowadays.</p>
<br><b>Will Rogers</b> (1879-1935) American humorist<br>Column (1923-03-11), &#8220;Weekly Article: We Need More Fred Stones&#8221; [No. 13] 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/illiteratedigest0000roge/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22hunt+out%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Illiterate Digest</i>, "What We Need Is More Fred Stones" (1924),


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		<title>Maugham, W. Somerset -- Of Human Bondage, ch. 50 (1915)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[People ask you for criticism, but they only want praise.]]></description>
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<br><b>W. Somerset Maugham</b> (1874-1965) English novelist and playwright [William Somerset Maugham]<br><i>Of Human Bondage</i>, ch. 50 (1915) 
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		<title>Randolph, John (Roanoke) -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is a man of splendid abilities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight. Comment on Edward Livingson, quoted in W. Cabell Bruce, John Randolph of Roanoke, Vol. 2 (1923). Sometimes incorrectly given as an attack on Henry Clay.]]></description>
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<br><b>John Randolph of Roanoke</b> (1773-1833) American politician, diplomat<br>(Attributed) 
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Comment on Edward Livingson, quoted in W. Cabell Bruce, <em>John Randolph of Roanoke</em>, Vol. 2 (1923). Sometimes incorrectly given as an attack on Henry Clay.						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took a sip. It went surprisingly well with the veal. On the other hand, the fourth margarita goes surprisingly well with everything.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a sip. It went surprisingly well with the veal. On the other hand, the fourth margarita goes surprisingly well with everything.</p>
<br><b>Robert B. Parker</b> (1932-2010) American writer<br><i>Taming A Sea-Horse</i> (1986) 
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		<title>Poole, Mary Pettibone -- A Glass Eye at a Keyhole, &#8220;Made in Manhattan&#8221; (1938)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves.</p>
<br><b>Mary Pettibone Poole</b> (fl. 1930s) American aphorist<br><i>A Glass Eye at a Keyhole</i>, &#8220;Made in Manhattan&#8221; (1938) 
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		<title>Sheen, Fulton -- Life Is Worth Living, s.5 (1957)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To tell a woman who is forty, &#8220;You look like sixteen,&#8221; is baloney. The blarney way of saying it is: &#8220;Tell me how old you are, I should like to know at what age women are most beautiful.&#8221;]]></description>
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<br><b>Fulton Sheen</b> (1895-1979) American Catholic archbishop, preacher, televangelist<br><i>Life Is Worth Living</i>, s.5 (1957) 
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		<title>Byron, George Gordon, Lord -- &#8220;English Bards and Scotch Reviewers,&#8221; l.  205, footnote (1809)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Thalaba,&#8221; Mr. Southey&#8217;s second poem, is written in open defiance of precedent and poetry. Mr. S. wished to produce something novel, and succeeded to a miracle. &#8220;Joan of Arc&#8221; was marvelous enough, but &#8220;Thalaba&#8221; was one of those poems &#8220;which,&#8221; in the words of Porson, &#8220;will be read when Homer and Virgil are forgotten, but [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thalaba,&#8221; Mr. Southey&#8217;s second poem, is written in open defiance of precedent and poetry. Mr. S. wished to produce something novel, and succeeded to a miracle. &#8220;Joan of Arc&#8221; was marvelous enough, but &#8220;Thalaba&#8221; was one of those poems &#8220;which,&#8221; in the words of Porson, &#8220;will be read when Homer and Virgil are forgotten, but &#8212; <i>not till then.&#8221;</i></p>
<br><b>George Gordon, Lord Byron</b> (1788-1824) English poet<br>&#8220;English Bards and Scotch Reviewers,&#8221; l.  205, footnote (1809) 
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When one of his earlier works was harshly criticized in the <i>Edinburgh Review,</i> Byron wrote this poem satirizing such critics (and the poetry they like). He refers to Robert Southey's "Thalaba," bringing in a phrase used by classical scholar Richard Porson to refer to Southey's poem "Madoc". Except ...<br><br>

... Porson doesn't include the "but not till then" phrase in his original comment. A man of subtle but biting humor, it seems likely he intended that as a subversive but deniable reading of "when Homer and Virgil are forgotten". Believing that, multiple writers of the time in turn criticized Byron for crudely spelling out Porson's <i>bon mot</i> (examples: <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lives_of_Wits_and_Humourists_R_Brinsley/0m4LAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=porson++%22read+when+Homer+and+Virgil+are+forgotten%22&pg=PA192&printsec=frontcover">Timbs</a> (1862), <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Reminiscences_and_Table_talk_of_Samuel_R/cP00AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=porson++%22read+when+Homer+and+Virgil+are+forgotten%22&pg=PA281&printsec=frontcover">Powell/Rogers</a> (1903)).



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