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		<title>Propertius -- Elegies, Book 4, Elegy  6, l.  51ff (4.6.51–52) [tr. Phillimore (1906)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the cause which shatters or exalts the soldier&#8217;s strength; if there be no just cause behind him, shame dashes the weapons from his hands. [Frangit et attollit uires in milite causa; quae nisi iusta subest, excutit arma pudor.] Because of the corruption of the manuscripts of Propertius and speculating from internal references, some [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the cause which shatters or exalts the soldier&#8217;s strength; if there be no just cause behind him, shame dashes the weapons from his hands.</p>
<p><em>[Frangit et attollit uires in milite causa;<br />
<span class="tab">quae nisi iusta subest, excutit arma pudor.]</span></em></p>
<br><b>Propertius</b> (50–16 BC) Roman elegiac poet [Sextus Propertius]<br><i>Elegies</i>, Book 4, Elegy  6, l.  51ff (4.6.51–52) [tr. Phillimore (1906)] 
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Because of the corruption of the manuscripts of Propertius and speculating from internal references, some 19th Century scholars (e.g., <a href="https://archive.org/details/LoebClassicalLibraryL018/page/n17/mode/2up 
">Lachmann</a>) argued for a different division of the elegies into books, thus the translations noted which instead label this as Book 5, Elegy 6.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/prop4.html#6:~:text=frangit%20et%20attollit%20uires%20in%20milite%20causa%3B%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0quae%20nisi%20iusta%20subest%2C%20excutit%20arma%20pudor.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>It is the cause that fires the warrior's breast,<br>
Let it be just, or shame will lower his crest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_elegies_of_Propertius_tr_into_Engl_v/3GQCAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22it%20is%20the%20cause%22">Moore</a> (1870), 5.6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The cause unnerves or nerves the soldier's might,<br>
And shame disarms who strikes not for the right.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044010369999&seq=522&q1=%22cause+unnerves%22">Cranstoun</a> (1875), 5.6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With soldiers the cause they fight for raises or depresses their strength; if it is not just, shame makes them drop their arms. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/elegies00prop/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22with+soldiers+the+cause%22">Gantillon</a> (1884), 5.6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis his cause that makes or mars a soldier's strength. If the cause be not just, shame strikes the weapon from his hands.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/LoebClassicalLibraryL018/page/n327/mode/2up?q=%22makes+or+mars%22">Butler</a> (Loeb) (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If the cause is not just, men's hands will drop their weapons;<br>
just cause can rally soldiers back to their ranks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/poemsofpropertiu0000unse_a4j4/page/176/mode/2up?q=%22if+the+cause%22">Carrier</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It's the cause that breaks or exalts a soldier's strength;<br>
If the cause is unjust, from his hand shame strikes his weapon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/propertius-elegies-musker.txt/page/181/mode/2up?q=%22cause+that+breaks%22">Musker</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is his cause that makes or breaks a soldier's strength; unless his cause is just, shame dashes the weapons from his hand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/elegiespropertiu0000prop/page/352/mode/2up?q=%22cause+that+makes%22">Goold</a> (Loeb) (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is their cause that breaks or raises soldiers' strength;<br>
<span class="tab">If that is unjust, shame throws down their weapons.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/poems0000prop_b2d5/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22breaks+or+raises%22">Lee</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The cause exalts or breaks a soldier’s strength: unless it is just, shame downs his weapons.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/PropertiusBkFour.php#anchor_Toc201112560:~:text=The%20cause%20exalts%20or%20breaks%20a%20soldier%E2%80%99s%20strength%3A%20unless%20it%20is%20just%2C%20shame%20downs%20his%20weapons.">Kline</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The cause men that men acclaim will force or limit courage:<br>
<span class="tab">shame will press their weapon down.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.ocasopress.com/pdf/sextus_propertius_elegies_translation.pdf#page=323">Holcombe</a> (2009)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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