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		<title>Russell, Bertrand -- Interview by Woodrow Wyatt, BBC TV (1959)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fanatical group all together have a comfortable feeling that they&#8217;re all friends with one another. They are all very much excited about the same thing. You can see it in any political party. There&#8217;s always a fringe of fanatics in any political party, and they feel very cozy with one another; and when that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fanatical group all together have a comfortable feeling that they&#8217;re all friends with one another. They are all very much excited about the same thing. You can see it in any political party. There&#8217;s always a fringe of fanatics in any political party, and they feel very cozy with one another; and when that is spread about and is combined with a propensity to hate some other group, you get fanaticism well developed.</p>
<br><b>Bertrand Russell</b> (1872–1970) English mathematician and philosopher<br>Interview by Woodrow Wyatt, BBC TV (1959) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://youtu.be/jJpjpXEbMlo?si=f5t2ZtvgFfcnvVoy&t=2583" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i>Bertrand Russell's BBC Interviews</i> (1959) [UK] and <i><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bertrand_Russell_Speaks_His_Mind/c2ENAQAAIAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22fanatical%20group%22">Bertrand Russell Speaks His Mind</a></i> (1960) [US]. Reprinted (abridged) in <i>The Humanist</i> (1982-11/12), and in <i><a href="https://bertrandrussellsociety.org/news-series/#:~:text=RSN%20%2337%20%E2%80%93%20February%201983.">Russell Society News</a></i>, #37 (1983-02).						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  76 (7.76) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Toady&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To feasts and theatres you love to go With men of rank and, when you chance to meet. To lounge with them about a portico Or street. They let you bathe and dine with them, but what Your dullard pride will never comprehend Is that you are their mountebank, and not Their friend. [Quod te [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To feasts and theatres you love to go<br />
<span class="tab">With men of rank and, when you chance to meet.<br />
To lounge with them about a portico<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Or street.<br />
They let you bathe and dine with them, but what<br />
<span class="tab">Your dullard pride will never comprehend<br />
Is that you are their mountebank, and not<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Their friend.</p>
<p><em>[Quod te diripiunt potentiores<br />
Per convivia, porticus, theatra,<br />
Et tecum, quotiens ita incidisti,<br />
Gestari iuvat et iuvat lavari:<br />
Nolito nimium tibi placere.<br />
Delectas, Philomuse, non amaris.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  76 (7.76) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Toady&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/220/mode/2up?q=%22the+toady%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.76">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>That great men court thee every where,<br>
<span class="tab">At feasts, and at the Theater,<br>
And would, as oft as well may bee,<br>
<span class="tab">Walk, bathe, or take the ayre with thee;<br>
Doe not admire thy selfe for it.<br>
<span class="tab">Tis not their love, but their delight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.90?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 7.75]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>When dukes to town ask thee to dine,<br>
<span class="tab">To rule their roast, and smack their wine,<br>
Or take thee to their country-seat,<br>
<span class="tab">To mark their dogs, and bless their meat,<br>
Ah! dream not on preferment soon:<br>
<span class="tab">Thou'rt not their friend, but their buffoon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All the great men take you away<br>
<span class="tab">To dinner, coffee-house, or play.<br>
Nor happier are, than when you chance<br>
<span class="tab">To hunt with them, or take a dance.<br>
Yet do not pride yourself too soon:<br>
<span class="tab">You're not a friend, but a buffoon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22great%20men%20take%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thee the great may tear away<br>
<span class="tab">To the banquet, porch, or play;<br>
And with thee may make their pride,<br>
<span class="tab">Or to talk, or bathe, or ride.<br>
Yet thou may'st mistake with ease.<br>
<span class="tab">Thou delight'st; but dost not please.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22iv.%20to%20philomusus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 4]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That men of rank take you along with them almost by force to their banquets, to porticos, and theatres; and that when they meet you they have pleasure in carrying you in their vehicles, and going along with you to the same baths; -- let not this puff you up with self-satisfaction, Philomusus; all this is because you are entertaining, not because you are beloved. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/110/mode/2up?q=philomusus">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though the great hurry you off to their banquets, and walks in the porticoes, and to the theatres; and though they are delighted, whenever you meet them, to make you share their litters, and to bathe with you, do not be too vain of such attentions. You entertain them, Philomusus; you are not an object of their regard.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=Though%20the%20great,of%20their%20regard.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Because men of influence vie in hurrying you off to entertainments, colonnades, theatres, and enjoy, whenever you happen to meet them, being carried in litters with you and enjoy bathing with you, by no means fancy yourself too much. You entertain them, Philomusus, you are not loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22them%20philomusus%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If important people compete for your company at dinner tables an din the colonnades and theaters and like to ride with you and bathe with you as often as you turn up, don't get too conceited. It's your company they like, Philomusus, not you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993): literally, "you give them pleasure, you are not loved."]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich folk ask you out to dine,<br>
<span class="tab">Or ride with them, or drink their wine,<br>
Or take a bath, or just hang out --<br>
<span class="tab">Now Philomusus, please don't pout --<br>
You only <i>entertain</i> their crew:<br>
<span class="tab">They're really not so into <i>you.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If powerful men take you up,<br>
at meals, theatres, and porticos,<br>
like riding and bathing with you,<br>
wherever you happen to go,<br>
don’t be too proud, Philomusus:<br>
you give pleasure, it isn’t love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798990">Kline</a> (2006), "The Reality"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If powerful men -- at banquets, porticoes, <br>
<span class="tab">and plays -- compete to have you by their side; <br>
if every time they meet you, they’re delighted <br>
<span class="tab">to offer you a hot bath or a ride; <br>
don’t get too vain about it, Philomusus. <br>
<span class="tab">They love not you, but pleasure you provide.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22if+powerful+men%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

See Ben Jonson, "<a href="https://hollowaypages.com/jonson1692epigrams.htm#:~:text=X%20X%20X.-,To%20Mime,-.">To Mime</a>," which ends, "Men love thee not for this: They laugh at thee."




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		<title>Foglio, Phil -- Agatha H. and the Siege of Mechanicsburg (2020) [with Kaja Foglio]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, your seriously steeped-in-madness dabbler in the esoteric sciences usually finds themself taxed with a rag-tag collection of hangers-on, typically consisting of minions, constructs, adventurers, and those unique, unclassifiable, individuals whose raison d’être appears to be to remind us of what a strange world it is.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, your seriously steeped-in-madness dabbler in the esoteric sciences usually finds themself taxed with a rag-tag collection of hangers-on, typically consisting of minions, constructs, adventurers, and those unique, unclassifiable, individuals whose raison d’être appears to be to remind us of what a strange world it is.</p>
<br><b>Phil Foglio</b> (b. 1956) American writer, cartoonist<br><i>Agatha H. and the Siege of Mechanicsburg</i> (2020) [with Kaja Foglio] 
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		<title>Machiavelli, Niccolo -- The Prince, ch. 22 (1513) [tr. Ricci (1903)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first impression that one gets of a ruler and of his brains is from seeing the men that he has about him. Variant: &#8220;The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him!&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first impression that one gets of a ruler and of his brains is from seeing the men that he has about him.</p>
<br><b>Niccolò Machiavelli</b> (1469–1527) Italian politician, philosopher, political scientist<br><i>The Prince</i>, ch. 22 (1513) [tr. Ricci (1903)] 
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Variant: "The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him!"						</span>
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		<title>Colton, Charles Caleb -- Lacon: Or, Many Things in Few Words, Vol. 2, §  25 (1822)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Power multiplies flatterers, and flatterers multiply our delusions by hiding us from ourselves.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power multiplies flatterers, and flatterers multiply our delusions by hiding us from ourselves.</p>
<br><b>Charles Caleb "C. C." Colton</b> (1780–1832) English cleric, writer, aphorist<br><i>Lacon: Or, Many Things in Few Words</i>, Vol. 2, §  25 (1822) 
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