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		<title>Euripides -- Auge [Αὐγῃ], frag. 272b (TGF) (c. 408 BC) [tr. Collard/Cropp (2008)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As it is, wine drove me out of my senses. I admit I wronged you, but the wrong was not intentional. [νοϋ δ&#8217; οίνος έξεστησέ μ&#8217; δμολογώ δέ σε άδίκείν, τὸ δ&#8217; αδίκημ&#8217; ἐγένετ&#8217; οὐχ ἑκούδίον.] Heracles apologizing (sort of), to Auge for raping her, one of the only such apologies in ancient Greek drama. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it is, wine drove me out of my senses. I admit I wronged you, but the wrong was not intentional.</p>
<p>[νοϋ δ&#8217; οίνος έξεστησέ μ&#8217; δμολογώ δέ σε άδίκείν, τὸ δ&#8217; αδίκημ&#8217; ἐγένετ&#8217; οὐχ ἑκούδίον.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Auge</i> [Αὐγῃ], frag. 272b (TGF) (c. 408 BC) [tr. Collard/Cropp (2008)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://digital.lib.washington.edu/researchworks/bitstream/handle/1773/23384/Funke_washington_0250E_11924.pdf?sequence=1" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Heracles apologizing (sort of), to Auge for raping her, one of the only such apologies in ancient Greek drama.<br><br>

Nauck frag. 265, Barnes frag. 6, Musgrave frag. 8. (<a href="https://archive.org/details/tragicorumgraeco00naucuoft/page/436/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%8B+%CE%B4%27+%CE%BF%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82%22">Source (Greek)</a>). Another translation:<br><br>

<blockquote>My senses are disorder'd by the fumes<br>
Of wine: yet will I own that I have wrong'd thee,<br>
Tho' this be an involuntary wrong.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/n390/mode/2up?q=%22My+senses+are+disorder%27d%22">Wodhall</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Hogan, Robert -- Quoted in Jeffrey Kluger, The Narcissist Next Door, ch. 6 (2014)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a reason narcissists don&#8217;t learn from mistakes and that&#8217;s because they never get past the first step, which is admitting that they made one. It&#8217;s always an assistant&#8217;s fault, an adviser&#8217;s fault, a lawyer&#8217;s fault. Ask them to account for a mistake any other way and they&#8217;ll say, &#8220;What mistake?&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reason narcissists don&#8217;t learn from mistakes and that&#8217;s because they never get past the first step, which is admitting that they made one. It&#8217;s always an assistant&#8217;s fault, an adviser&#8217;s fault, a lawyer&#8217;s fault. Ask them to account for a mistake any other way and they&#8217;ll say, &#8220;What mistake?&#8221; </p>
<br><b>Robert Hogan</b> (b. 1937) American psychologist<br>Quoted in Jeffrey Kluger, <i>The Narcissist Next Door</i>, ch. 6 (2014) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/narcissistnextdo0000klug/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22a+reason+narcissists%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Homer -- The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  1, l.  32ff (1.32) [Zeus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My word, how mortals take the gods to task! All their afflictions come from us, we hear. And what of their own failings? Greed and folly double the suffering in the lot of man. [ὢ πόποι, οἷον δή νυ θεοὺς βροτοὶ αἰτιόωνται. ἐξ ἡμέων γάρ φασι κάκ&#8217; ἔμμεναι· οἱ δὲ καὶ αὐτοὶ σφῇσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὑπὲρ [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My word, how mortals take the gods to task!<br />
All their afflictions come from us, we hear.<br />
And what of their own failings? Greed and folly<br />
double the suffering in the lot of man.</p>
<p>[ὢ πόποι, οἷον δή νυ θεοὺς βροτοὶ αἰτιόωνται.<br />
ἐξ ἡμέων γάρ φασι κάκ&#8217; ἔμμεναι· οἱ δὲ καὶ αὐτοὶ<br />
σφῇσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὑπὲρ μόρον ἄλγε&#8217; ἔχουσιν.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Odyssey</i> [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  1, l.  32ff (1.32) [Zeus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/bafQVqR6O5kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT7&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22gods%20to%20task%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0135%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D1#text_main:~:text=%E1%BD%A2%20%CF%80%CF%8C%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%B9%2C%20%CE%BF%E1%BC%B7%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%CE%AE%20%CE%BD%CF%85%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%E1%BD%BA%CF%82,%CF%83%CF%86%E1%BF%87%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B8%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%AF%E1%BF%83%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%91%CF%80%E1%BD%B2%CF%81%20%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CE%BB%CE%B3%CE%B5%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%94%CF%87%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%2C">Original Greek</a>. Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>O how falsely men<br>
Accuse us Gods as authors of their ill!<br>
When, by the bane their own bad lives instill,<br>
They suffer all the mis’ries of their states,<br>
Past our inflictions, and beyond their fates.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/48895/48895-h/48895-h.htm#:~:text=O%20how%20falsely%20men,our%20inflictions%2C%20and%20beyond%20their%20fates.">Chapman</a> (1616)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ha! how dare mortals tax the Gods, and say,<br>
Their harms do all proceed from our decree,<br>
And by our setting; when by their crimes they<br>
Against our wills make their own destiny?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/hobbes-the-english-works-vol-x-iliad-and-odyssey#Hobbes_0051-10_15188:~:text=Ha!%20how%20dare%20mortals%20tax%20the,our%20wills%20make%20their%20own%20destiny%3F">Hobbes</a> (1675), l. 37ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Perverse mankind! whose wills, created free,<br>
Charge all their woes on absolute degree;<br>
All to the dooming gods their guilt translate,<br>
And follies are miscall'd the crimes of fate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Odyssey_(Pope)/Book_I#headernext:~:text=Perverse%20mankind!%20whose%20wills%2C%20created%20free%2C,are%20miscall'd%20the%20crimes%20of%20fate.">Pope</a> (1725)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Alas! how prone are human-kind to blame<br>
The Pow’rs of Heav’n! From us, they say, proceed<br>
The ills which they endure, yet more than Fate<br>
Herself inflicts, by their own crimes incur.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24269/24269-h/24269-h.htm#BI_l40:~:text=Alas!%20how%20prone%20are%20human%2Dkind%20to,inflicts%2C%20by%20their%20own%20crimes%20incur.">Cowper</a> (1792), l. 41ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mortals, ye Powers, upbraid us with their voice,<br>
And brand us for the fount of all their ill,<br>
Who, of their own acts, not of fate but choice,<br>
Heap to themselves much toil and sorrow still.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/7-Eh5oFk6msC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=mortals%20ye%20powers%20upbraid">Worsley</a> (1861), st. 6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why! what reproach,<br>
Ye gods! do mortals cast on deities!<br>
To us all their calamities they trace,<br>
While they, themselves, through their own senseless acts,<br>
Feel pangs their destiny had ne'er decreed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/RgULAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=odyssey%20musgrave&pg=PA3&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22what%20reproach%22">Musgrave</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh heavens! how mortals now to blame the gods!<br>
From us they say spring ills! but they themselves<br>
By their own folly bring unfated woes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Nearly_Literal_Translation_of_Homer_s/44YXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22mortals%20now%20do%20blame%22">Bigge-Wither</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lo you now, how vainly mortal men do blame the gods! For of us they say comes evil, whereas they even of themselves, through the blindness of their own hearts, have sorrows beyond that which is ordained.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1728/1728-h/1728-h.htm#:~:text=Lo%20you%20now%2C%20how%20vainly%20mortal,sorrows%20beyond%20that%20which%20is%20ordained.">Butcher/Lang</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lo, how men blame the gods! From us, they say, spring troubles. But through their own perversity and more than is their due they meet with sorrow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/KYlBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22how%20men%20blame%20the%20gods%22">Palmer</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>See now, how men lay blame upon us gods for what is after all nothing but their own folly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(Butler)/Book_I#cite_ref-1:~:text=See%20now%2C%20how%20men%20lay%20blame%20upon%20us%20gods%20for%20what%20is%20after%20all%20nothing%20but%20their%20own%20folly.">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh my, how mortals hold us gods responsible! For they say that their misfortunes come from us. But they get their sufferings, beyond what is fated, by way of their own acts of recklessness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/homeric-odyssey-sb/#main:~:text=Oh%20my%2C%20how%20mortals%20hold%20us,their%20own%20acts%20of%20recklessness%20%5Batasthaliai%5D.">Butler</a> (1898), rev. Kim/McCray/Nagy/Power (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Look you now, how ready mortals are to blame the gods. It is from us, they say, that evils come, but they even of themselves, through their own blind folly, have sorrows beyond that which is ordained.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0136%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D1#text_main:~:text=Look%20you%20now%2C%20how%20ready%20mortals,sorrows%20beyond%20that%20which%20is%20ordained.">Murray</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It vexes me to see how mean are these creatures of a day towards us Gods, when they charge against us the evils (far beyond our worst dooming) which their own exceeding wantonness has heaped upon themselves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/r8eKFwymHmcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=homer%20odyssey&pg=PA1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22it%20vexes%20me%22">Lawrence</a> (1932)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What a lamentable thing it is that men should blame the gods and regard us as the source of their troubles, when it is their own wickedness that brings them sufferings worse than any which Destiny allots them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/TheOdyssey/TheOdyssey_djvu.txt#maincontent:~:text=What%20a%20lamentable%20thing%20it%20is,Destiny%20allots%20them.">Rieu</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame upon us <br>
gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather,<br> 
who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/OT7MUVjJ82wC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT35&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22oh%20for%20shame%22">Lattimore</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Men are so quick to blame the gods: they say<br>
that we devise their misery. But they<br>
themselves -- in their depravity -- design<br>
grief greater than the griefs that fate assigns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/ORyo8qAA-CQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=odyssey%20%22Men%20are%20so%20quick%20to%20blame%20the%20gods%22&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Men%20are%20so%20quick%20to%20blame%20the%20gods%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah how shameless -- the way these mortals blame the gods.<br>
From us alone, they say, come all their miseries, yes,<br>
but they themselves, with their own reckless ways,<br>
compound their pains beyond their proper share.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.boyle.kyschools.us/UserFiles/88/The%20Odyssey.pdf">Fagles</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mortals! They are always blaming the gods<br>
For their troubles, when their own witlessness<br>
Causes them more than they were destined for!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/yIFAC9r4NW0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22always%20blaming%22">Lombardo</a> (2000), l. 37ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Strange to behold, what blame these mortals can bring against godhead! For their ills, they assert, are from us, when they themselves by their mad recklessness have pain far past what is fated.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/EC9coOuym-kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover&bsq=strange%20to%20behold">Merrill</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>How surprising that men blame the gods, and say their troubles come from us, though they, through their own un-wisdom, find suffering beyond what is fated.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Odyssey1.php#anchor_Toc90267059:~:text=How%20surprising%20that%20men%20blame%20the%20gods%2C%20and%20say%20their%20troubles%20come%20from%20us%2C%20though%20they%2C%20through%20their%20own%20un%2Dwisdom%2C%20find%20suffering%20beyond%20what%20is%20fated.">Kline</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What a lamentable thing it is that men should blame the gods and regard us as the source of their troubles, when it is their own transgressions which bring them suffering that was not their destiny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/U2Jovv1NuMsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT61&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22what%20a%20lamentable%20thing%22">DCH Rieu</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>
<blockquote>This is not good! See how mortals find fault with us gods!<br>
They say it is from us that all evil things come, yet it is by their<br>
own recklessness that they suffer hardship beyond their destiny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/o8dLDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22this%20is%20not%20good%22">Verity</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">This is absurd,<br>
that mortals blame the gods! They say we cause<br>
their suffering, but they themselves increase it <br>
by folly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/PpJYDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT116&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22this%20is%20absurd%22">Wilson</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My oh my, the way mortals will fasten blame on the gods!<br>
From us, they say, evils come, yet they themselves<br>
through their own blind recklessness have ills beyond<br>
their fated lot.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/BUFJDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22mortals%20will%20fasten%22">Green</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It’s disgraceful how humans blame the gods.<br>
They say their tribulations come from us,<br>
when they themselves, through their own foolishness,<br>
bring hardships which are not decreed by Fate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250214160811/http://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/homer/odyssey1html.html#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20disgraceful%20how%20humans%20blame%20the%20gods.%0AThey%20say%20their%20tribulations%20come%20from%20us%2C%0Awhen%20they%20themselves%2C%20through%20their%20own%20foolishness%2C%0Abring%20hardships%20which%20are%20not%20decreed%20by%20Fate.">Johnston</a> (2019), l. 41ff]</blockquote><br>
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