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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we admit that some infinite being has controlled the destinies of persons and peoples, history becomes a most cruel and bloody farce. Age after age, the strong have trampled upon the weak; the crafty and heartless have ensnared and enslaved the simple and innocent, and nowhere, in all the annals of mankind, has any [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we admit that some infinite being has controlled the destinies of persons and peoples, history becomes a most cruel and bloody farce. Age after age, the strong have trampled upon the weak; the crafty and heartless have ensnared and enslaved the simple and innocent, and nowhere, in all the annals of mankind, has any god succored the oppressed.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Alink0002:~:text=If%20we%20admit,succored%20the%20oppressed." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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First given on the 135th birthday of Thomas Paine. <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22if+we+admit+that+some%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).

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		<title>Homer -- The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 10, l. 575ff (10.575-576) [Odysseus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For who could see the passage of a goddess Unless she wished his mortal eyes aware? [τίς ἂν θεὸν οὐκ ἐθέλοντα ὀφθαλμοῖσιν ἴδοιτ᾽ ἢ ἔνθ᾽ ἢ ἔνθα κιόντα] On Circe providing, unseen, a ram and ewe for sacrifice, tied to Odyseus&#8217; departing ship. (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: For who would see God, loth to let [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For who could see the passage of a goddess<br />
Unless she wished his mortal eyes aware?</p>
<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">[τίς ἂν θεὸν οὐκ ἐθέλοντα<br />
ὀφθαλμοῖσιν ἴδοιτ᾽ ἢ ἔνθ᾽ ἢ ἔνθα κιόντα]</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Odyssey</i> [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 10, l. 575ff (10.575-576) [Odysseus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/odysseyerni00home/page/182/mode/2up?q=%22mortal+eyes+aware%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On Circe providing, unseen, a ram and ewe for sacrifice, tied to Odyseus' departing ship.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0135%3Abook%3D10%3Acard%3D546#:~:text=%CF%84%CE%AF%CF%82%20%E1%BC%82%CE%BD%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%E1%BD%B8%CE%BD%20%CE%BF%E1%BD%90%CE%BA%20%E1%BC%90%CE%B8%CE%AD%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%0A%E1%BD%80%CF%86%CE%B8%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BC%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%B4%CE%B4%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%84%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%A2%20%E1%BC%94%CE%BD%CE%B8%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%A2%20%E1%BC%94%CE%BD%CE%B8%CE%B1%20%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%8C%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%3B">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For who would see God, loth to let us see,<br>
This way or that bent; still his ways are free.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48895/48895-h/48895-h.htm#chap10:~:text=For%20who%20would%20see%20God%2C%20loth%20to%20let%20us%20see%2C%0AThis%20way%20or%20that%20bent%3B%20still%20his%20ways%20are%20free.">Chapman</a> (1616)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For Gods, but when they list, cannot be spied.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/hobbes-the-english-works-vol-x-iliad-and-odyssey#lf0051-10_head_3025:~:text=For%20Gods%2C%20but%20when%20they%20list%2C%20cannot%20be%20spied.">Hobbes</a> (1675)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The paths of gods what mortal can survey?<br>
Who eyes their motion? who shall trace their way?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Odyssey_(Pope)/Book_10#:~:text=The%20paths%20of%20gods%20what%20mortal%20can%20survey%3F%0AWho%20eyes%20their%20motion%3F%20who%20shall%20trace%20their%20way%3F%22">Pope</a> (1725)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For who hath eyes that can discern a God<br>
Going or coming, if he shun the view?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24269/24269-h/24269-h.htm#BOOK_X:~:text=For%20who%20hath,shun%20the%20view%3F">Cowper</a> (1792)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For who with eyes may know<br>
Against their will immortals moving to and fro?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/7-Eh5oFk6msC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22eyes%20may%20know%22">Worsley</a> (1861), st. 65]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><i>Who</i> could see a god<br>
With his own eyes, if he should not be willing, --<br>
Whether he hied him here, or hied him there?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Nearly_Literal_Translation_of_Homer_s/44YXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22could%20see%20a%20god%22">Bigge-Wither</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who may behold a god against his will, whether going to or fro?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1728/1728-h/1728-h.htm#chap10:~:text=who%20may%20behold%20a%20god%20against%20his%20will%2C%20whether%20going%20to%20or%20fro%3F">Butcher/Lang</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For what man's eyes may see<br>
A God that is loth to be looked on, whether here or there he be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/VwcOAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22god%20that%20is%20loth%22">Morris</a> (1887)]</blockquote><

<blockquote>When a god does not will, what man can spy him moving to and fro?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/KYlBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22moving%20to%20and%20fro%22">Palmer</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For who can see the comings and goings of a god, if the god does not wish to be seen? <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0218%3Abook%3D10%3Acard%3D13#:~:text=She%20passed%20through%20the%20midst%20of%20us%20without%20our%20knowing%20it%2C%20for%20who%20can%20see%20the%20comings%20and%20goings%20of%20a%20god%2C%20if%20the%20god%20does%20not%20wish%20to%20be%20seen%3F">Butler</a> (1898), rev. Power/Nagy (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who with his eyes could behold a god against his will, whether going to or fro?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0136%3Abook%3D10%3Acard%3D546#:~:text=Who%20with%20his%20eyes%20could%20behold%20a%20god%20against%20his%20will%2C%20whether%20going%20to%20or%20fro%3F">Murray</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What mortal eye can see a God going up and down if He wills not to be seen?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/qhQAywOYz10C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22going%20up%20and%20down%22">Lawrence</a> (1932)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And when a god wishes to remain unseen, what eye can observe his coming or his going?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/TheOdyssey/TheOdyssey_djvu.txt#:~:text=and%20when%20a%20god%20wishes%20to%20remain%20un%C2%AC%20%0Aseen%2C%20what%20eye%20can%20observe%20his%20coming%20or%20his%20going%3F">Rieu</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Whose eyes can follow the movement <br>
of a god passing from place to place, unless the god wishes? <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odysseyofhomerha00rich/page/166/mode/2up?q=%22follow+the+movement%22">Lattimore</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">How can<br>
a man detect a god who comes and goes<br>
if gods refuse to have their movements known?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/ORyo8qAA-CQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&kptab=overview&bsq=%22detect%20a%20god%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Who can glimpse a god<br> 
who wants to be invisible gliding here and there?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odyssey0000home_i6h2/page/176/mode/2up?q=%22glimpse+a+god%22">Fagles</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When a god wishes to remain unseen, what eye can observe his coming of going?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/U2Jovv1NuMsC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22remain%20unseen%20what%22">DCH Rieu</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when a god does not wish to be observed who can cast an eye upon his going back and forth?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/o8dLDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22wish%20to%20be%20observed%22">Verity</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who can see the gods go by unless they wish to show themselves to us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/PpJYDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22gods%20gone%20by%20unless%22">Wilson</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the gods don't desire it, who can witness their passage, either coming or going?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/BUFJDwAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22witness%20their%20passage%22">Green</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For who can see a god move back and forth,<br>
if she has no desire to be observed?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/homer/odyssey10html.html#:~:text=for%20who%20can%20see%20a%20god%20move%20back%20and%20forth%2C%0Aif%20she%20has%20no%20desire%20to%20be%20observed%3F">Johnston</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Cyclops [Κύκλωψ], l. 316ff (c. 424-23 BC) [tr. Kovacs (1994)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[CYCLOPS: Little man, the wise regard wealth as the god to worship; all else is just prating and fine-sounding sentiments. [ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: ὁ πλοῦτος, ἀνθρωπίσκε, τοῖς σοφοῖς θεός, τὰ δ᾽ ἄλλα κόμποι καὶ λόγων εὐμορφία.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: POLYPHEME:Vile caitiff, Wealth is the deity the wise adore, But all things else are unsubstantial boasts, And [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>CYCLOPS: Little man, the wise regard wealth as the god to worship; all else is just prating and fine-sounding sentiments.</p>
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<p>[ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: ὁ πλοῦτος, ἀνθρωπίσκε, τοῖς σοφοῖς θεός,<br />
τὰ δ᾽ ἄλλα κόμποι καὶ λόγων εὐμορφία.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Cyclops</i> [Κύκλωψ], l. 316ff (c. 424-23 BC) [tr. Kovacs (1994)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0094%3Acard%3D316#:~:text=Little%20man%2C%20the%20wise%20regard%20wealth%20as%20the%20god%20to%20worship%3B%20all%20else%20is%20just%20prating%20and%20fine%2Dsounding%20sentiments." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0093%3Acard%3D316#:~:text=%E1%BD%81%20%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%BF%E1%BF%A6%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82%2C%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BD%CE%B8%CF%81%CF%89%CF%80%CE%AF%CF%83%CE%BA%CE%B5%2C%20%CF%84%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%82%20%CF%83%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%82%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%8C%CF%82%2C%0A%CF%84%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B1%20%CE%BA%CF%8C%CE%BC%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%BB%CF%8C%CE%B3%CF%89%CE%BD%20%CE%B5%E1%BD%90%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%81%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%B1.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>POLYPHEME:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Vile caitiff,<br>
Wealth is the deity the wise adore,<br>
But all things else are unsubstantial boasts, <br>
And specious words alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/428/mode/2up?q=%22Vile+caitifT%2C%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: Wealth, my good fellow, is the wise man's God, All other things are a pretence and boast. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cyclops_(Shelley_1824)#:~:text=CYCLOPS%3A%20Wealth%2C%20my%20good%20fellow%2C%20is%20the%20wise%20man%27s%20God%2C%20All%20other%20things%20are%20a%20pretence%20and%20boast.">Shelley</a> (1824)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: Wealth, manikin, is the god for the wise; all else is mere vaunting and fine words.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://classics.mit.edu/Euripides/cyclops.html#:~:text=Wealth%2C%20manikin%2C%20is%20the%20god%20for%20the%20wise%3B%20all%20else%20is%20mere%20vaunting%20and%20fine%20words.">Coleridge</a> (1913)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: Wealth, master Shrimp, is to the truly wise <br>
The one true god; the rest are mockeries <br>
Of tall talk, naught but mere word-pageantries.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/LoebClassicalLibraryL009/page/551/mode/2up?q=%22wealth%2C+master+shrimp%22">Way</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[CYCLOPS: I sacrifice to no one save myself and this belly, the greatest of deities; but to the gods, not I! [ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: ἁγὼ οὔτινι θύω πλὴν ἐμοί, θεοῖσι δ᾽ οὔ, καὶ τῇ μεγίστῃ, γαστρὶ τῇδε, δαιμόνων.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: POLYPHEME:To no other God except myself, And to this belly, greatest of the Gods, I [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">CYCLOPS: I sacrifice to no one save myself and this belly, the greatest of deities; but to the gods, not I!</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: ἁγὼ οὔτινι θύω πλὴν ἐμοί, θεοῖσι δ᾽ οὔ,<br />
καὶ τῇ μεγίστῃ, γαστρὶ τῇδε, δαιμόνων.]</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Cyclops</i> [Κύκλωψ], l. 334ff (c. 424-23 BC) [tr. Coleridge (1913)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://classics.mit.edu/Euripides/cyclops.html#:~:text=I%20sacrifice%20to%20no%20one%20save%20myself%20and%20this%20belly%2C%20the%20greatest%20of%20deities%3B%20but%20to%20the%20gods%2C%20not%20I!" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0093%3Acard%3D316#:~:text=%E1%BC%81%CE%B3%E1%BD%BC%20%CE%BF%E1%BD%94%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%B9%20%CE%B8%CF%8D%CF%89,%2C%20%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BC%CF%8C%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>POLYPHEME:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To no other God except myself, <br>
And to this belly, greatest of the Gods,<br>
I sacrifice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/428/mode/2up?q=belly">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To what other God but to myself <br>
And this great belly, first of deities, <br>
Should I be bound to sacrifice?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cyclops_(Shelley_1824)#:~:text=to%20what%20other%20God%20but%20to%20myself%20And%20this%20great%20belly%2C%20first%20of%20deities%2C%20Should%20I%20be%20bound%20to%20sacrifice%3F">Shelley</a> (1819)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: I sacrifice to my great Self, sir Sprat,<br>
And to no god beside -- except, that is,<br>
My belly, greatest of all deities.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/LoebClassicalLibraryL009/page/553/mode/2up?q=%22i+sacrifice+to+my%22">Way</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: I sacrifice to no god save myself -- <br>
And to my belly, greatest of deities.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/fpabookofquotati00adam/page/98/mode/2up?q=%22to+my+belly%2C+greatest+of+deities%22">Adams</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>CYCLOPS: I sacrifice to no one but myself -- never to the gods -- and to my belly, the greatest of divinities.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0094%3Acard%3D316#:~:text=I%20sacrifice%20to%20no%20one%20but%20myself%E2%80%94never%20to%20the%20gods%E2%80%94%20%5B335%5D%20and%20to%20my%20belly%2C%20the%20greatest%20of%20divinities.">Kovacs</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Montesquieu -- Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes], Letter  59, Rica to Usbek (1721) [tr. MacKenzie (2014)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Usbek, it seems to me that we always judge things by secretly relating them to our own concerns. I am not surprised that black men envision the devil as being a brilliant white color, and that they picture their gods as being black as coal &#8212; nor that certain peoples picture Venus as having breasts [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usbek, it seems to me that we always judge things by secretly relating them to our own concerns. I am not surprised that black men envision the devil as being a brilliant white color, and that they picture their gods as being black as coal &#8212; nor that certain peoples picture Venus as having breasts that hang down to her thighs &#8212; nor that all idolaters have always pictured their gods in human form, ascribing to them all their own predilections. It has been well said that if triangles had a god, they would imagine him as having three sides.</p>
<p><em>[Il me semble, Usbek, que nous ne jugeons jamais des choses que par un retour secret que nous faisons sur nous-mêmes. Je ne suis pas surpris que les nègres peignent le diable d’une blancheur éblouissante et leurs dieux noirs comme du charbon ; que la Vénus de certains peuples ait des mamelles qui lui pendent jusqu’aux cuisses ; et qu’enfin tous les idolâtres aient représenté leurs dieux avec une figure humaine, et leur aient fait part de toutes leurs inclinations. On a dit fort bien que, si les triangles faisoient un dieu, ils lui donneroient trois côtés.]</em></p>
<br><b>Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu</b> (1689-1755) French political philosopher<br><i>Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes]</i>, Letter  59, Rica to Usbek (1721) [tr. MacKenzie (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/UK5aBAAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%2259%20usbek%20it%20seems%20to%20me%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The triangles reference is often attributed directly to Montesquieu, though it's referenced here as having another origin. It is sometimes cited as a Jewish or Yiddish proverb.<br><br>

Some early editions leave out the triangle metaphor altogether, thinking it alludes to the Trinity.<br><br>

See also <a href="https://wist.info/voltaire/4017/">Voltaire</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Lettres_persanes/Lettre_59#:~:text=Il%20me%20semble,donneroient%20trois%20c%C3%B4t%C3%A9s.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is my Opinion, Usbek, that we never judge of Things but with a private View to our selves. I am not surprised that the Negroes shou'd paint the Devil of the most glaring Whiteness, and their Gods as black as a Coal; that the Venus of some Nations shou'd have Breasts hanging down to her very Thighs; and lastly, that all Idolaters have represented their Gods with a Human Figure, and given them all their own Inclinations. It has been said with good Reason that if the Triangles were to make a God they wou'd give him three Sides.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/jwE6AAAAcAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22three%20sides%22">Ozell</a> (1736), No. 57] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It appears to me, Usbek, that we never judge of things but with a private view to ourselves. I do not wonder that the Negroes paint the devil in the most glaring whiteness, and their gods as black as a coal; that the Venus of some nations should be represented with breasts pendent to her thighs; nor indeed that all idolaters have made their gods of human figures, and have ascribed to them all their own passions.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_persian-letters-by-m-_montesquieu-charles-de-_1762_1/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22it+appears+to+me+usbek%22">Floyd</a> (1762)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It seems to me, Usbek, that our opinions are always influenced by a secret application to ourselves. I am not surprised that Negroes paint the devil with a complexion of dazzling whiteness, and their gods as black as coal; that the Venus of certain races has breasts that hang down to her thighs; and finally, that all idolaters have represented their gods in the likeness of men, and have ascribed to them all their own passions. It has been very well said, that if triangles were to make to themselves gods, they would give them three sides.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Persian_Letters/Letter_59#:~:text=It%20seems%20to,them%20three%20sides.">Davidson</a> (1891)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It seems to me, Usbek, that our judgment of things is always controlled by the secret influence they have had on our own actions. I am not surprised that the negroes paint the devil with a face of dazzling whiteness, and their gods as black as coal; that the Venus of certain tribes has breasts that hang down to her thighs; and, in fine, that all nations have represented their gods in the human form, and have supposed them to be imbued with their own passions. It has been very well said that if triangles were to make a god for themselves, they would give him three sides.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/persianletters00degoog/page/n150/mode/2up?q=triangles">Betts</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It seems to me, Usbek, that we judge things only by applying them secretly to ourselves. I am not surprised that Negroes paint the devil in dazzling white and their gods in carbon black; or that the Venus of certain peoples has breasts that hang to her thighs; or, finally, that all idolaters have represented their gods in human shape and assign to them all their own attributes. It is well said that if triangles were to create a god, they would describe him with three sides.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/montesquieu-persian-letters-healy/page/100/mode/2up?q=triangles">Healy</a> (1964)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It seems to me, Usbek, that we never judge anything without secretly considering it in relation to our own self. I am not surprised that black men depict the devil as brilliantly white, and their own gods as coal-black, that the Venus of certain peoples has breasts that hang down to her thighs, and, in short, that all idolaters have depicted their gods with human faces, and have endowed them with their own propensities. It has been quite correctly observed that if triangles were to make themselves a god, they would give him three sides.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/BT7dISXhzowC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=triangles">Mauldon</a> (2008), No. 57]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Euripides -- Auge [Αὐγῃ], frag. 269 (c. 408 BC) [tr. Symonds (1880)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoso pretends that Love is no great god, The lord and master of all deities, Is either dull of soul, or, dead to beauty, Knows not the greatest god that governs men. &#160; [Ἔρωτα δ᾿ ὅστις μὴ θεὸν κρίνει μέγαν καὶ τῶν ἁπάντων δαιμόνων ὑπέρτατον, ἢ σκαιός ἐστιν ἢ καλῶν ἄπειρος ὢν οὐκ οἶδε τὸν [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoso pretends that Love is no great god,<br />
The lord and master of all deities,<br />
Is either dull of soul, or, dead to beauty,<br />
Knows not the greatest god that governs men.<br />
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[Ἔρωτα δ᾿ ὅστις μὴ θεὸν κρίνει μέγαν<br />
καὶ τῶν ἁπάντων δαιμόνων ὑπέρτατον,<br />
ἢ σκαιός ἐστιν ἢ καλῶν ἄπειρος ὢν<br />
οὐκ οἶδε τὸν μέγιστον ἀνθρώποις θεόν.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Auge</i> [Αὐγῃ], frag. 269 (c. 408 BC) [tr. Symonds (1880)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/47236/pg47236-images.html#FNanchor_41_41:~:text=Whoso%20pretends%20that,that%20governs%20men." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The second line ("καὶ ... ὑπέρτατον" = "the highest of all deities") was apparently inserted by Stobaeus.<br><br>

<a href="https://archive.org/details/tragicorumgraeco00naucuoft/page/438/mode/2up?q=%22%CE%95%CF%81%CF%89%CF%84%CE%B1+%CE%B4%27+%CE%BF%CF%8C%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82%22">Nauck (TGF)</a> frag. 269, Barnes frag. 15, Musgrave frag. 3. (<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/47236/pg47236-images.html#FNanchor_41_41:~:text=%E1%BC%94%CF%81%CF%89%CF%84%CE%B1%20%CE%B4%27%20%E1%BD%85%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82,%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BD%CE%B8%CF%81%CF%8E%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%82%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%8C%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>He who esteems not Love a mighty God, <br>
And to all other Deities superior,<br>
Devoid of reason, or to beauty blind, <br>
Knows not the ruler of this nether world.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/n390/mode/2up?q=%22Love+a+mighty+God%22">Wodhall</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Anyone who does not count Love a great god,<br>
and the highest of all the divine powers,<br>
is either obtuse or, lacking experience in his benefits,<br>
is unacquainted with human beings’ greatest god.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.academia.edu/68520912/Eros_as_a_Globetrotter">Collard / Cropp</a> (2008); <a href="https://www.academia.edu/94276027/Euripides_and_Gender_The_Difference_the_Fragments_Make">Funke</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whoever does not judge Love to be a great god, and highest of all the divine powers, is either a fool or, lacking experience of his good things, is not acquainted with mankind's greatest god.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selfhood_and_the_Soul/XYcLDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Whoever+does+not+judge+Love+to+be+a+great+god%22&pg=PA235&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whoever does not think Eros a great god<br>
is either silly or ignorant of blessings.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Dictionary_of_Classical_Greek_Quotatio/knv1DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22eros%20a%20great%20god%22">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Bierce, Ambrose -- &#8220;Bacchus,&#8221; The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book (1906)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BACCHUS, n. A convenient deity invented by the ancients as an excuse for getting drunk. Included in The Devil&#8217;s Dictionary (1911). Originally published in the &#8220;Devil&#8217;s Dictionary&#8221; column in the San Francisco Wasp (1881-04-23).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BACCHUS, <i>n.</i> A convenient deity invented by the ancients as an excuse for getting drunk.</p>
<br><b>Ambrose Bierce</b> (1842-1914?) American writer and journalist<br>&#8220;Bacchus,&#8221; <i>The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book</i> (1906) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43951/43951-h/43951-h.htm#link2H_4_0003:~:text=BACCHUS%2C%20w.%20A%20convenient%20deity%20invented%20by%20the%20ancients%20as%20an%20excuse%20for%20getting%20drunk." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Dictionary/B#:~:text=BACCHUS%2C%20n.%20A%20convenient%20deity%20invented%20by%20the%20ancients%20as%20an%20excuse%20for%20getting%20drunk.">Included</a> in <i>The Devil's Dictionary</i> (1911). <a href="https://archive.org/details/unabridgeddevils00bier/page/352/mode/2up?q=%22Bacchus+Bachelor+Back%22">Originally published</a> in the "Devil's Dictionary" column in the San Francisco <i>Wasp</i> (1881-04-23).						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Bacchæ [Βάκχαι], l. 1325ff [Cadmus/κάδμος] (405 BC) [tr. Vellacott (1973)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there be any man who derides the unseen world, let him consider the death of Pentheus, and acknowledge the gods. [εἰ δ᾽ ἔστιν ὅστις δαιμόνων ὑπερφρονεῖ, ἐς τοῦδ᾽ ἀθρήσας θάνατον ἡγείσθω θεούς.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: If any impious mortal yet contemns The Powers celestial, let him view the death Of Pentheus, to convince [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there be any man who derides the unseen world, let him consider the death of Pentheus, and acknowledge the gods.</p>
<p>[εἰ δ᾽ ἔστιν ὅστις δαιμόνων ὑπερφρονεῖ,<br />
ἐς τοῦδ᾽ ἀθρήσας θάνατον ἡγείσθω θεούς.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Bacchæ</i> [Βάκχαι], l. 1325ff [Cadmus/κάδμος] (405 BC) [tr. Vellacott (1973)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000phil/page/222/mode/2up?q=%22derides+the+unseen%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0091%3Acard%3D1280#:~:text=%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%20%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%85%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82%20%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BC%CF%8C%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%91%CF%80%CE%B5%CF%81%CF%86%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%2C%0A%E1%BC%90%CF%82%20%CF%84%CE%BF%E1%BF%A6%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CE%B8%CF%81%CE%AE%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%82%20%CE%B8%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%A1%CE%B3%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%83%CE%B8%CF%89%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%82.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If any impious mortal yet contemns <br>
The Powers celestial, let him view the death <br>
Of Pentheus, to convince him there are Gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/406/mode/2up?q=%22impious+mortal%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anyone scorns the gods, let him look to the death of this man and acknowledge them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0092%3Acard%3D1280#:~:text=If%20anyone%20scorns%20the%20gods%2C%20let%20him%20look%20to%20the%20death%20of%20this%20man%20and%20acknowledge%20them.">Buckley</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O if there be he who scorneth the great gods,<br>
Gaze on this death, and know that there are gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_x9h8/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22o+if+there%22">Milman</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there be one who still disdains the gods,<br>
Let him behold this corpse and reverence them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaerogers00euri/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22If+there+be+one+who%22">Rogers</a> (1872), l. 1293ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah! if there be any man that scorns the gods, let him well mark this prince’s death and then believe in them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/The_Bacchantes#cite_ref-86:~:text=Ah!%20if%20there%20be%20any%20man%20that%20scorns%20the%20gods%2C%20let%20him%20well%20mark%20this%20prince%E2%80%99s%20death%20and%20then%20believe%20in%20them.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If any man there be that scorns the Gods,<br>
This man's death let him note, and so believe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/The_Bacchanals#:~:text=If%20any%20man%20there%20be%20that%20scorns%20the%20Gods%2C%0AThis%20man%27s%20death%20let%20him%20note%2C%20and%20so%20believe.">Way</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Oh, whoso walketh not in dread<br>
Of Gods, let him but look on this man dead!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35173/pg35173-images.html#:~:text=Oh%2C%20whoso%20walketh%20not%20in%20dread%0A%20%20Of%20Gods%2C%20let%20him%20but%20look%20on%20this%20man%20dead!">Murray</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">If there is still any mortal man<br>
who despises or defies the gods, let him look<br>
on this boy's death and believe in the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripidesv00euri/page/220/mode/2up?q=%22if+there+is+still+any+mortal%22">Arrowsmith</a> (1960)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there is any man who despises deity<br>
let him look on Pentheus’ death, and judge that gods exist!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_w7z7/page/132/mode/2up?q=%22If+there+is+any+man%22">Kirk</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If any man thinks light of the divine ones, <br>
let him consider this man’s death, and believe in gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mattneub/downloads/bacchae.pdf">Neuburg</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there be any man who challenges or scorns<br>
the unseen powers,<br>
let him look on this boy's death and accept<br>
that which is God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3f3/page/76/mode/2up?q=%22if+there+be+any+man%22">Cacoyannis</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there is anyone who despises the gods,<br>
Looking on this death, let him believe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_h0w4/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22despises+the+gods%22">Blessington</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So if there is anyone who disdains the gods<br>
let him look at the death of this man here and let him believe that gods exist.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid0000euri/page/90/mode/2up?q=%22so+if+there+is+anyone%22">Esposito</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there is anyone who despises the divine,<br>
he should look at this man's death and believe in gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_s0g4/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22despises+the+divine%22">Woodruff</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Anyone who feels <br>
Superior to the gods should study this:<br>
Pentheus is dead -- believe in the gods!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeotherplay0000euri_p0i4/page/296/mode/2up?q=%22anyone+who+feels%22">Gibbons/Segal</a> (2000)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there is anyone who thinks nothing of heaven's power, let him look at this man's death and believe that the gods exist.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeiphigenia00euri/page/144/mode/2up">Kovacs</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let he who would defy the gods’ demands <br>
Look at this piteous death and believe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchai0000euri/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22let+he+who+would%22">Teevan</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there’s anyone who insults the gods let him turn his eyes to this and let him believe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/bacchae/#:~:text=If%20there%E2%80%99s%20anyone%20who%20insults%20the%20gods%20let%20him%20turn%20his%20eyes%20to%20this%20and%20let%20him%20believe.">Theodoridis</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there is anyone here who casts a disparaging eye<br>
Upon the Divine, look now on this and know the Gods exist.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://euripidesofathens.blogspot.com/2008/01/scene-7.html#:~:text=If%20there%20is%20anyone%20here%20who%20casts%20a%20disparaging%20eye%0AUpon%20the%20Divine%2C%20look%20now%20on%20this%20and%20know%20the%20Gods%20exist.">Valerie</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there's a man who disrespects the gods,<br>
let him think about how this man perished --<br>
then he should develop faith in them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bacchae/o4JeCg6u18oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%20%22disrespects%20the%20gods%22">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anyone still disputes the power of heaven,<br>
let them look at this boy's death<br>
and they will see that the gods live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3z6/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22still+disputes%22">Robertson</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If there are any left who would look down on the gods, let them see this.<br>
This death.<br>
And let them know the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://the-mercurian.com/2019/12/13/the-bacchae/#:~:text=If%20there%20are,know%20the%20gods.">Pauly</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">If anyone, anywhere, denies the gods,<br>
seeing this death, let him belisve in them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacchae_of_Euripides/UmCTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22denies%20the%20gods%22">Behr/Foster</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If anyone scorns the <i>daimones,</i> let him look to the death of this man and acknowledge them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-bacchae-sb/#:~:text=If%20anyone%20scorns%20the%20daimones%20%2C%20let%20him%20look%20to%20the%20death%20of%20this%20man%20and%20acknowledge%20them.">Buckley/Sens/Nagy</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Sinclair, Upton -- The Jungle, ch. 3 (1906)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One could not stand and watch very long without becoming philosophical, without beginning to deal in symbols and similes, and to hear the hog squeal of the universe. Was it permitted to believe that there was nowhere upon the earth, or above the earth, a heaven for hogs, where they were requited for all this [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could not stand and watch very long without becoming philosophical, without beginning to deal in symbols and similes, and to hear the hog squeal of the universe. Was it permitted to believe that there was nowhere upon the earth, or above the earth, a heaven for hogs, where they were requited for all this suffering? Each one of these hogs was a separate creature. Some were white hogs, some were black; some were brown, some were spotted; some were old, some young; some were long and lean, some were monstrous. And each of them had an individuality of his own, a will of his own, a hope and a heart&#8217;s desire; each was full of self-confidence, of self-importance, and a sense of dignity. And trusting and strong in faith he had gone about his business, the while a black shadow hung over him and a horrid Fate waited in his pathway. </p>
<p>Now suddenly it had swooped upon him, and had seized him by the leg. Relentless, remorseless, it was; all his protests, his screams, were nothing to it &#8212; it did its cruel will with him, as if his wishes, his feelings, had simply no existence at all; it cut his throat and watched him gasp out his life. And now was one to believe that there was nowhere a god of hogs, to whom this hog personality was precious, to whom these hog squeals and agonies had a meaning? Who would take this hog into his arms and comfort him, reward him for his work well done, and show him the meaning of his sacrifice? </p>
<p>Perhaps some glimpse of all this was in the thoughts of our humble-minded Jurgis, as he turned to go on with the rest of the party, and muttered: &#8220;<em>Dieve</em> &#8212; but I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not a hog!&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Upton Sinclair</b> (1878-1968) American writer, journalist, activist, politician<br><i>The Jungle</i>, ch. 3 (1906) 
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		<title>Armstrong, Karen -- A History of God, ch. 7 &#8220;The God of the Mystics&#8221; (1993)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet a personal God can become a grave liability. He can be a mere idol carved in our own image, a projection of our limited needs. fears and desires. We can assume that he loves what we love and hates what we hate, endorsing our prejudices instead of compelling us to transcend them. &#8230; Instead [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet a personal God can become a grave liability. He can be a mere idol carved in our own image, a projection of our limited needs. fears and desires. We can assume that he loves what we love and hates what we hate, endorsing our prejudices instead of compelling us to transcend them. &#8230; Instead of pulling us beyond our limitations, &#8220;he&#8221; can encourage us to remain complacently within them; &#8220;he&#8221; can make us a cruel, callous, self-satisfied and partial as &#8220;he&#8221; seems to be. Instead of inspiring the compassion that should characterize all advanced religion, &#8220;he&#8221; can encourage us to judge, condemn and marginalize.</p>
<br><b>Karen Armstrong</b> (b. 1944) British author, comparative religion scholar<br><i>A History of God</i>, ch. 7 &#8220;The God of the Mystics&#8221; (1993) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; epigraph, Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An honest God is the noblest work of man.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; epigraph, Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois 
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First given on the 135th birthday of Thomas Paine. <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22an+honest+god%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).<br><br>

See <a href="/pope-alexander/12737/">Pope</a> and <a href="/butler-samuel/12841/">Butler</a>.

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		<title>Campbell, Joseph -- The Power of Myth, ch. 1 (1988)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have bought this wonderful machine &#8212; a computer. Now I am rather an authority on gods, so I identified the machine &#8212; it seems to me to be an Old Testament god with a lot of rules and no mercy. From interviews between Campbell and Bill Moyers in 1985-86. Broadcast as episode 2 of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bought this wonderful machine &#8212; a computer. Now I am rather an authority on gods, so I identified the machine &#8212; it seems to me to be an Old Testament god with a lot of rules and no mercy. </p>
<br><b>Joseph Campbell</b> (1904-1987) American writer, professor of literature<br><i>The Power of Myth</i>, ch. 1 (1988) 
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From interviews between Campbell and Bill Moyers in 1985-86. Broadcast as episode 2 of the PBS television show of the same name.  Often truncated: "A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy."
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