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		<title>L'Engle, Madeleine -- Speech (1983-11-16), &#8220;Dare To Be Creative,&#8221; Lecture, Library of Congress, Washington, DC</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need to dare disturb the universe by not being manipulated or frightened by judgmental groups who assume the right to insist that if we do not agree with them, not only do we not understand but we are wrong. How dull the world would be if we all had to feel the same way [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to dare disturb the universe by not being manipulated or frightened by judgmental groups who assume the right to insist that if we do not agree with them, not only do we not understand but we are wrong. How dull the world would be if we all had to feel the same way about everything, if we all had to like the same books, dislike the same books.</p>
<br><b>Madeleine L'Engle</b> (1918-2007) American writer<br>Speech (1983-11-16), &#8220;Dare To Be Creative,&#8221; Lecture, Library of Congress, Washington, DC 
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		<title>Horace -- Epistles [Epistularum, Letters], Book 2, ep.  1 &#8220;To Augustus,&#8221; l. 262ff (2.1.262-263) (14 BC) [tr. Palmer Bovie (1959)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We learn more quickly and bring back to mind more readily The things we laugh at than those we respect and revere. [Discit enim citius, meminitque libentius ilud Quod quis deridet, quam quod probat et veneratur.] On why he declines to write epic poetry: because he doubts his talents, and the public will remember only [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We learn more quickly and bring back to mind more readily<br />
The things we laugh at than those we respect and revere.</p>
<p><em>[Discit enim citius, meminitque libentius ilud<br />
Quod quis deridet, quam quod probat et veneratur.]</em></p>
<br><b>Horace</b> (65–8 BC) Roman poet, satirist, soldier, politician [Quintus Horatius Flaccus]<br><i>Epistles [Epistularum, Letters]</i>, Book 2, ep.  1 &#8220;To Augustus,&#8221; l. 262ff (2.1.262-263) (14 BC) [tr. Palmer Bovie (1959)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresanndepist0000hora/page/258/mode/2up?q=%22learn+more+quickly%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On why he declines to write epic poetry: because he doubts his talents, and the public will remember only if it's a bad poem. Which is especially problematic if the poem is about someone (like Augustus) still alive.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2008.01.0539:book=2:poem=1&highlight=Discit+enim+citius%2C#:~:text=discit%20enim%20citius%20meminitque%20libentius%20illud%0Aquod%20quis%20deridet%2C%20quam%20quod%20probat%20et%20veneratur.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>A man may soner beare awaye and rather kepe in mynde<br>
The thinge deryded, then that is prayse worthie in his kynde.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A03670.0001.001/1:8.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=A%20man%20may,in%20his%20kynde.">Drant</a> (1567)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For Readers so malicious now are growne,<br>
What's bad they'll con, what's good they let alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44478.0001.001;node=A44478.0001.001:8;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=For%20Readers%20so,they%20let%20alone.">W. P.</a>; ed. Brome (1666)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For what's derided by the Censuring Crowd,<br>
Is thought on more than what is just and Good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44471.0001.001;node=A44471.0001.001:8;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=For%20what%27s%20derided,just%20and%20Good">Creech</a> (1684)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For quickly we discern,<br> 
With ease remember, and with pleasure learn, <br>
Whate'er may ridicule and laughter move, <br>
Not what deserves our best esteem and love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresepistlesi00hora/page/258/mode/2up?q=%22quickly+we+discern%22">Francis</a> (1747)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For sooner caught and steadier to abide<br>
On memory's tablet that which we deride,<br>
Than what revere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epodes_Satires_and_Epistles_of_Horac/TPgDAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fooner%20caught%22">Howes</a> (1845)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For one learns sooner, and more willingly remembers, that which a man derides, than that which he approves and venerates.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_works_of_Horace/Second_Book_of_Epistles#:~:text=For%20one%20learns%20sooner%2C%20and%20more%20willingly%20remembers%2C%20that%20which%20a%20man%20derides%2C%20than%20that%20which%20he%20approves%20and%20venerates.">Smart/Buckley</a> (1853)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For easier 'tis to learn and recollect<br>
What moves derision than what claims respect.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Satires,_Epistles_%26_Art_of_Poetry_of_Horace/Ep2-01#:~:text=For%20easier%20%27tis%20to%20learn%20and%20recollect%0AWhat%20moves%20derision%20than%20what%20claims%20respect.">Conington</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For we learn quicker, gladlier recollect<br>
What makes us laugh, than what commands respect.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/worksofhorace02horauoft/page/356/mode/2up?q=%22for+we+learn+quicker%22">Martin</a> (1881)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The subject of our zeal sooner hears of, and is more inclined to remember, that which any one laughs at in the production than what he approves of and eulogizes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Horace/-f8pAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22zeal%20sooner%22">Elgood</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For a man learns more quickly and remembers more easily that which he laughs at, than that which he approves and reveres.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cassell_s_Book_of_Quotations_Proverbs_an/J8MxAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22easily%20that%20which%20he%20laughs%22">E.g.</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For one sooner learns<br>
And easier remembers such concerns<br>
As men deride that those men favor lend<br>
And venerate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeworksofh0000casp_g2w3/page/378/mode/2up?q=%22one+sooner+learns%22">A. F. Murison</a> (1931); ed. Kramer, Jr. (1936)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For we all more quickly learn and easily remember<br>
the poems we scorn than those we approve of and respect.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/horacessatiresep0000hora/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22we+all+more+quickly%22">Fuchs</a> (1977)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And writers of foolish poems often find<br>
They're vividly and scornfully remembered.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epistlesofhorace0000hora/page/130/mode/2up?q=%22scornfully+remembered%22">Ferry</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For a thing that causes merriment is always sooner learnt<br>
and longer remembered than what commands respect and approval.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhoracep00hora/page/114/mode/2up?q=%22causes+merriment%22">Rudd</a> (2005 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Men remember more quickly, with greater readiness,<br>
Things they deride, than those they approve and respect.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceEpistlesBkIIEpI.php#anchor_Toc98154298:~:text=Men%20remember%20more,approve%20and%20respect">Kline</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Burgh, James -- The Dignity of Human Nature, Book 1 &#8220;Of Prudence&#8221; (1754)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have a friend that will reprove your faults and foibles, consider you enjoy a blessing, which the king upon the throne cannot have.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a friend that will reprove your faults and foibles, consider you enjoy a blessing, which the king upon the throne cannot have.</p>
<br><b>James Burgh</b> (1714-1775) British politician and writer<br><i>The Dignity of Human Nature</i>, Book 1 &#8220;Of Prudence&#8221; (1754) 
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		<title>Nietzsche, Friedrich -- The Gay Science [Die fröhliche Wissenschaft], Book 3, § 264 (1882) [tr. Kaufmann (1974)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What we do is never understood but always only praised or censured. [Was wir thun, wird nie verstanden, sondern immer nur gelobt und getadelt.] Also known as La Gaya Scienza, The Joyful Wisdom, or The Joyous Science. (Source (German)). Alternate translations: What we do is never understood, but only praised and blamed. [tr. Common (1911)] [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we do is never understood but always only praised or censured.</p>
<p><em>[Was wir thun, wird nie verstanden, sondern immer nur gelobt und getadelt.]</em></p>
<br><b>Friedrich Nietzsche</b> (1844-1900) German philosopher and poet<br><i>The Gay Science [Die fröhliche Wissenschaft]</i>, Book 3, § 264 (1882) [tr. Kaufmann (1974)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/gaysciencewithpr0000niet/page/218/mode/2up?q=%22praised+or+censured%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Also known as <i>La Gaya Scienza</i>, <i>The Joyful Wisdom</i>, or <i>The Joyous Science</i>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_LNEuAAAAYAAJ/page/n201/mode/2up?q=%22was+wir+thun+wird%22">Source (German)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>What we do is never understood, but only praised and blamed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/52881/pg52881-images.html#:~:text=What%20we%20do%20is%20never%20understood%2C%20but%20only%20praised%20and%20blamed.">Common</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What we do is never understood but always merely praised and reproached.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Nietzsche_The_Gay_Science/Vf8KETLiKXMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22praised%20and%20reproached%22">Nauckhoff</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Catullus -- Carmina #   5 &#8220;To Lesbia,&#8221; ll.  1-6 [tr. Stewart (1915)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come, let us live and love, my dear,<br />
<span class="tab">A fig for all the pratings drear<br />
Of sour old sages, worldly wise.<br />
<span class="tab">Aye, suns may set again to rise;<br />
But as for us, when once our sun<br />
<span class="tab">His little course of light has run,<br />
An endless night we&#8217;ll sleep away.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[Vivamus, mea Lesbia, atque amemus<br />
rumoresque senum severiorum<br />
omnes unius aestimemus assis<br />
soles occidere et redire possunt:<br />
nobis cum semel occidit brevis lux,<br />
nox est perpetua una dormienda.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Catullus</b> (c. 84 BC – c. 54 BC) Latin poet [Gaius Valerius Catullus]<br>Carmina #   5 &#8220;To Lesbia,&#8221; ll.  1-6 [tr. Stewart (1915)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4pk0h310&seq=42&q1=%22come+let+us+live+and+love%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
										<br><br><span class="cite">
						

One of Catulllus' most popular and widely-translated poems.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0003%3Apoem%3D5#:~:text=Vivamus%2C%20mea%20Lesbia%2C%20atque%20amemus%2C%0Arumoresque%20senum%20severiorum%0Aomnes%20unius%20aestimemus%20assis.%0Asoles%20occidere%20et%20redire%20possunt%3A%0Anobis%2C%20cum%20semel%20occidit%20brevis%20lux%2C%0Anox%20est%20perpetua%20una%20dormienda">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Come and let us live, my Deare, <br>
<span class="tab">Let us love and never feare <br>
What the sourest Fathers say: <br>
<span class="tab">Brightest <i>Sol</i> that dyes to-day <br>
Lives againe as blithe to-morrow; <br>
<span class="tab">But if we darke sons of sorrow <br>
Set, ô then, how long a Night <br>
<span class="tab">Shuts the Eyes of our short light!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106015467548&seq=112&q1=%22let+us+live+my+deare%22%22">Crashaw</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia, live to love and pleasure,<br>
<span class="tab">Careless what the grave may say:<br>
When each moment is a treasure<br>
<span class="tab">Why should lovers lose a day?<br>
Setting suns shall rise in glory,<br>
<span class="tab">But when little life is o'er,<br>
There's an end of all the story --<br>
<span class="tab">We shall sleep, and wake no more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001523304&seq=40&q1=%22live+to+love%22">Langhorne</a> (c. 1765)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let's live, and love, my darling fair!<br>
And not a single farthing care<br>
<span class="tab">For age's babbling spite;<br>
Yon suns that set again shall rise,<br>
but, when our transient meteor dies,<br>
<span class="tab">We sleep in endless night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t6154g976&seq=54&q1=%22let%27s+live+and+love%22">Nott</a> (1795)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My Lesbia, let us love and live,<br>
<span class="tab">And to the winds, my Lesbia, give<br>
Each cold restraint, each boding fear<br>
<span class="tab">Of age and all her saws severe.<br>
Yon sun now posting to the main<br>
<span class="tab">Will set -- but 'tis to rise again: --<br>
But we, when once our mortal light<br>
<span class="tab">Is set, must sleep in endless night!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001523304&seq=40&q1=%22and+to+the+winds%22">Coleridge</a> (1798)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Love, my Lesbia, while we live,<br>
<span class="tab">Value all the cross advice<br>
That the surly greybeards give<br>
<span class="tab">At a single farthing's price.<br>
Suns that set again may rise;<br>
<span class="tab">We, when once our fleeting light,<br>
Once our day in darkness dies,<br>
<span class="tab">Sleep in one eternal night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_poems_of_Caius_Valerius_Catullus_tr/j10UAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22love%20my%20lesbia%20while%22">Lamb</a> (1821)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Live we, love we, Lesbia dear, <br>
<span class="tab">And the stupid saws austere, <br>
Which your sour old dotards prate,<br>
<span class="tab">Let us at a farthing rate! <br>
When the sun sets, ' tis to rise <br>
<span class="tab">Brighter in the morning skies; <br>
But, when sets our little light, <br>
<span class="tab">We must sleep in endless night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175007358511&seq=40&q1=%22stupid+saws+austere%22">T. Martin</a> (1861)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The while we live, to love let's give<br>
<span class="tab">Each hour, my winsome dearie!<br>
Hence, churlish rage of icy age! <br>
<span class="tab">Of love we 'll ne'er grow weary.<br>
Bright Phoebus dies, again to rise;<br>
<span class="tab">Returns life's brief light never;<br>
When once 'tis gone, we slumber on<br>
<span class="tab">For ever and for ever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t1hh7rq7f&seq=46&q1=%22the+while+we+live%22">Cranstoun</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Living, Lesbia, we should e'en be loving.<br>
Sour severity, tongue of eld maligning,<br>
All be to us a penny's estimation.<br>
Suns set only to rise again to-morrow.<br>
We, when sets in a little hour the brief light,<br>
Sleep one infinite age, a night for ever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18867/pg18867-images.html#:~:text=Living%2C%20Lesbia%2C%20we,night%20for%20ever.">Ellis</a> (1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Love we (my Lesbia!) and live we our day,<br>
<span class="tab">While all stern sayings crabbed sages say,<br>
At one doit's value let us price and prize!<br>
<span class="tab">The Suns can westward sink again to rise<br>
But we, extinguished once our tiny light,<br>
<span class="tab">Perforce shall slumber through one lasting night!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0005%3Apoem%3D5#:~:text=Love%20we%20(my%20Lesbia!)%20and%20live%20we%20our%20day%2C%0AWhile%20all%20stern%20sayings%20crabbed%20sages%20say%2C%0AAt%20one%20doit%27s%20value%20let%20us%20price%20and%20prize!%0AThe%20Suns%20can%20westward%20sink%20again%20to%20rise%0ABut%20we%2C%20extinguished%20once%20our%20tiny%20light%2C%0APerforce%20shall%20slumber%20through%20one%20lasting%20night!">Burton</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, and let us love, and count all the rumors of stern old men at a penny's fee. Suns can set and rise again: we when once our brief light has set must sleep through a perpetual night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0006%3Apoem%3D5#:~:text=Let%20us%20live%2C%20my%20Lesbia%2C%20and%20let%20us%20love%2C%20and%20count%20all%20the%20rumors%20of%20stearn%20old%20men%20at%20a%20penny%27s%20fee.%20Suns%20can%20set%20and%20rise%20again%3A%20we%20when%20once%20our%20brief%20light%20has%20set%20must%20sleep%20through%20a%20perpetual%20night.">Smithers</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Come, my Lesbia, no repining;<br>
Let us love while yet we may!<br>
Suns go on forever shining;<br>
But when we have had our day,<br>
<span class="tab">Sleep perpetual shall o'ertake us,<br>
<span class="tab">And no morrow's dawn awake us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001523304&seq=42&q1=%22no+repining%22">Field</a> (1896)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Let us live, my Lesbia, and love, and value at one farthing all the talk of crabbed old men. <br>
<span class="tab">Suns may set and rise again. For us, when the short light has once set, remains to be slept the sleep of one unbroken night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_poems_of_Gaius_Valerius_Catullus_(Cornish)/Carmina_I-XXX#:~:text=Let%20us%20live,one%20unbroken%20night.">Warre Cornish</a> (1904)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, let us love, for the reprobation of soured age let us not care a sou. Suns can set and rise again; but to our brief light, when once it sets, there comes a never-ending night that must be passed in never-ending sleep.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4hm54w4w&seq=44&q1=%22let+us+live%22">Stuttaford</a> (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We live, Lesbia,<br>
And we love, Lesbia,<br>
And what do we care what the world may say? <br>
The sun goes down, <br>
And the sun comes up, <br>
But our little lives pass away <br>
In a day, <br>
Our poor little lives pass away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t3125z478&seq=12&q1=%22little+lives+pass%22">Dement</a> (1915)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us revel in life and love, my darling; <br>
All that crabbed antiquities say idly <br>
We will value together at a farthing. <br>
Suns may set , and return again as brightly: <br>
When our light to its dying spark has fluttered, <br>
We must sleep an eternity of slumber.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b311029&seq=42&q1=%22revel+in+life%22">Symons-Jeune</a> (1923)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O! let us love and have our day,<br>
All that the bitter greybeards say<br>
<span class="tab">Appraising at a single mite.<br>
My Lesbia , suns can set and rise:<br>
For us the brief light dawns and dies<br>
<span class="tab">Once only, and the rest is night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b267122&seq=22&q1=%22let+us+love%22">MacNaghten</a> (1925)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Come let us live and let us love, <br>
<span class="tab">And the stern voice of censors prove, <br>
Who bid us from our loving cease, <br>
<span class="tab">Exactly worth a penny piece.<br>
For suns can rise and suns can wane <br>
<span class="tab">And on the morrow rise again; <br>
But when our one brief day is gone, <br>
<span class="tab">For ever we must sleep alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106015467548&seq=112&q1=%22come+let+us+live%22">Wright</a> (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Come, Lesbia, let us live and love,<br>
nor give a damn what sour old men say.<br>
The sun that sets may rise again<br>
but when our light has sunk into the earth, <br>
it is gone forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001542577&seq=34&q1=%22let+us+live+and+love%22">Gregory</a> (1931)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia, let us live only for loving,<br>
and let us value at a single penny<br>
all the loose flap of senile busybodies!<br>
Suns when they set are capable of rising,<br>
but at the setting of our on brief light<br>
night is one sleep from which we never awaken.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poems_of_Catullus/y_HafujaJM4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lesbia%20let%20us%20live%22">C. Martin</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, let us love,<br>
and all the words of the old, and so moral,<br>
may they be worth less than nothing to us!<br>
Suns may set, and suns may rise again:<br>
but when our brief light has set,<br>
night is one long everlasting sleep.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Catullus.php#:~:text=Let%20us%20live,long%20everlasting%20sleep.">Kline</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, and let us love,<br>
and let us judge all the rumors of the old men<br>
to be worth just one penny!<br>
The suns are able to fall and rise:<br>
When that brief light has fallen for us,<br>
we must sleep a never ending night.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e5.htm#:~:text=Let%20us%20live%2C%20my%20Lesbia%2C%20and%20let%20us%20love%2C%0Aand%20let%20us%20judge%20all%20the%20rumors%20of%20the%20old%20men%0Ato%20be%20worth%20just%20one%20penny!%0AThe%20suns%20are%20able%20to%20fall%20and%20rise%3A%0AWhen%20that%20brief%20light%20has%20fallen%20for%20us%2C%0Awe%20must%20sleep%20a%20never%20ending%20night.">Negenborn</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let's live, Lesbia mine, and love --<br>
and as for scandal, all the gossip, old men's strictures,<br>
value the lot at no more than a farthing!<br>
Suns can rise and set ad infinitum --<br>
for us, though, once our bref life's quenched,<br>
there's only one unending night that's left to sleep through.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poems_of_Catullus/4qsYinaVXQ8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lets%20live%20lesbia%22">Green</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Come live with me, Lesbia, and be my love,<br>
And ignore the wagging tongues<br>
Of wilted crones and toothless geezers.<br>
Suns rise and set, rise and set again,<br>
But we, when our brief light is blacked,<br>
Must sleep forever, and then forever.<br>
<a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/13486812-Catullus-5--Come-Live-With-Me-and-Be-My-Love-by-Gaius-Valerius-Catullus#:~:text=Come%20live%20with%20me%2C%20Lesbia%2C%20and%20be%20my%20love%2C%0AAnd%20ignore%20the%20wagging%20tongues%0AOf%20wilted%20crones%20and%20toothless%20geezers.%0A%0ASuns%20rise%20and%20set%2C%20rise%20and%20set%20again%2C%0ABut%20we%2C%20when%20our%20brief%20light%20is%20blacked%2C%0AMust%20sleep%20forever%2C%20and%20then%20forever.">[tr. Hager (2006)]</a></blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My Lesbia, let’s live and let’s love,<br>
Let all the rumors of harsh old men<br>
count for only a penny.<br>
Suns can set and rise again:<br>
but when our brief light sets<br>
we must sleep a lonely endless night.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2015/03/13/one-perpetual-night-countless-kisses-catullan-hendecasyllables-for-the-weekend-carm-5/#:~:text=My%20Lesbia%2C%20let%E2%80%99s%20live%20and%20let%E2%80%99s%20love%2C%0ALet%20all%20the%20rumors%20of%20harsh%20old%20men%0Acount%20for%20only%20a%20penny.%0ASuns%20can%20set%20and%20rise%20again%3A%0Abut%20when%20our%20brief%20light%20sets%0Awe%20must%20sleep%20a%20lonely%20endless%20night.">@sentantiq</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, and let us love,<br>
and let's value all the rumors<br>
of rather stern old men as one penny!<br>
Suns can set and return;<br>
as for us, once our brief light sets,<br>
there is one perpetual night to be slept.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Poetry_of_Gaius_Valerius_Catullus/5#:~:text=Let%20us%20live%2C%20my%20Lesbia%2C%20and%20let%20us%20love%2C">Wikibooks</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us live, my Lesbia, and let us love,<br>
and let us value all the rumors of<br>
more severe old men at only a penny!<br>
Suns are able to set and return:<br>
when once the short light has set for us<br>
one perpetual night must be slept by us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Catullus_5#:~:text=Let%20us%20live%2C%20my%20Lesbia%2C%20and%20let%20us%20love%2C%0Aand%20let%20us%20value%20all%20the%20rumors%20of%0Amore%20severe%20old%20men%20at%20only%20a%20penny!%0ASuns%20are%20able%20to%20set%20and%20return%3A%0Awhen%20once%20the%20short%20light%20has%20set%20for%20us%0Aone%20perpetual%20night%20must%20be%20slept%20by%20us.">Wikisource</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

Compare also these two pieces, which start modeled after Catullus (as shown):<br><br>

<blockquote>My sweetest Lesbia, let us live and love;<br>
<span class="tab">And though the sager sort our deeds reprove,<br>
Let us not weigh them: Heaven's great lamps do dive<br>
<span class="tab">Into their west, and straight again revive,<br>
But, soon as once set is our little light,<br>
<span class="tab">Then must we sleep one ever-during night.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Pageant_of_English_Poetry/11lKAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22sager+sort+our+deeds+reprove%22&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover">Thomas Campion</a>, <i>A Book of Airs</i> (1601)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Come my Celia, let us prove,<br>
<span class="tab">While we can, the sports of love;<br>
Time will not be ours forever,<br>
<span class="tab">He at length our good will sever.<br>
Spend not then his gifts in vain;<br>
<span class="tab">Suns that set may rise again,<br>
But if once we lose this light,<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis with us perpetual night.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ben_Jonson_Volpone_or_The_fox/jJ9PM3KlKQQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22come%20my%20celia%22">Ben Jonson</a>, <i>Volpone</i>, Act 3, sc. 6 (1616)]</blockquote><br>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compassion is not a popular virtue. Very often when I talk to religious people, and mention how important it is that compassion is the key, that it&#8217;s the <em>sine qua non</em> of religion, people look kind of balked, and stubborn sometimes, as much to say, &#8220;What&#8217;s the point of having religion if you can&#8217;t disapprove of other people?&#8221; </p>
<br><b>Karen Armstrong</b> (b. 1944) British author, comparative religion scholar<br>NOW Interview with Bill Moyers, PBS (1 Mar 2002) 
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		<title>De Botton, Alain -- The Consolations of Philosophy, ch. 1 &#8220;Consolations for Unpopularity&#8221; (2000)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philosophy had supplied Socrates with convictions in which he had been able to have rational, as opposed to hysterical, confidence when faced with disapproval.</p>
<br><b>Alain de Botton</b> (b. 1969) Swiss-British author<br><i>The Consolations of Philosophy</i>, ch. 1 &#8220;Consolations for Unpopularity&#8221; (2000) 
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		<title>Fuller, Thomas (1654) -- Introductio ad Prudentiam, Vol. 1, # 1252 (1725)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If evil Men speak good, or good Men evil of thee; examine thy Actions, and suspect thy self: But if evil Men speak evil of thee; hold it as an Honor, and by way of Thankfulness love them; but upon condition, that they continue to hate thee.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Fuller</b> (1654-1734) English physician, preacher, aphorist, writer<br><i>Introductio ad Prudentiam</i>, Vol. 1, # 1252 (1725) 
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		<title>Thomas a Kempis -- The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi], Book 1, ch. 12, v.  1 (1.12.1) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Sherley-Price (1952)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good, too, that we sometimes suffer opposition, and that men think ill of us and misjudge us, even when we do and mean well. Such things are an aid to humility, and preserve us from pride and vainglory. For we more readily turn to God as our inward witness, when men despise us and think no good of us.</p>
<p><em>[Bonum est quod patiamur quandoque contradictiones, et male et imperfecte de nobis sentiatur, etiamsi bene agimus, et intendimus. Ista sæpe juvant ad humilitatem, et a vana gloria nos defendunt. Tunc enim melius interiorem testem Deum quærimus, quando foris vilipendimur ab hominibus, et non bene de nobis creditur.]</em></p>
<br><b>Thomas à Kempis</b> (c. 1380-1471) German-Dutch priest, author<br><i>The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi]</i>, Book 1, ch. 12, v.  1 (1.12.1) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Sherley-Price (1952)] 
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(<a href="https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/kempis/kempis1.shtml#:~:text=Bonum%20est%20quod,de%20nobis%20creditur.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is good also that we suffer sometime contradiction, and that we be holden of others as evil, and wretched, and sinful, though we do well and intend well: for such things help us to meekness and mightily defend us from vain-glory and pride. We take God the better to be our judge and witness, when we be outwardly despised in the world, and the world judgeth not well of us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.219519/page/n79/mode/2up?q=%22suffer+sometime+contradiction%22">Whitford/Raynal</a> (1530/1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It also is good that we sometimes suffer contradiction, and that we be thought of by others as evil and wretched and sinful, though we do well and intend well; such things help us to humility, and mightily defend us from vainglory and pride. We take God better to be our judge and witness when we are outwardly despised in the world and the world does not judge well of us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchri200thom/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22sometimes+suffer+contradiction%22">Whitford/Gardiner</a> (1530/1955)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>It is good for us sometimes to be crossed and contradicted, yea to be ill spoken of, and ill thought of, although  we both doe and mean well. These wonderfully increase in us the vertue of humility, and strongly beat downe in us the vice of vain-glory. For then we more earnestly call God to witnesse in us and for us, when men abroad dis-esteeme us and give no credit unto us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A13699.0001.001/1:4.12?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=It%20is%20good%20for%20us%20sometimes%20to%0Abe,esteeme%20us%20and%20give%0Ano%20credit%20unto%20us%2C">Page</a> (1639), 1.3.3-5]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The Injuries and contumelious Usage, the Calumnies and Censures of them who speak and think ill of us, bring their Profit with them too; even when most wrongful, most undeserved. For these oftentimes are an occasion of rectifying our Measures, as bringing us to a juster and more modest Opinion of our selves: They cure our Ambition and Vain-glory, and convince us how vain a thing it is, to thrill after Reputation and the Praise of Men, when even Innocence and Goodness cannot protect us from Slander and Reproaches. They teach us to set a due Value upon the Testimony of our own Consciences, and the righteous Approbation of God, the Searcher of Hearts; when that which he will not fail to commend and reward, cannot escape the Contempt and Condemnation of the World, nor prevail for so much as fair Quarter, from our mistaken and injurious Brethren.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/christianspatte00thomgoog/page/n41/mode/2up?q=%22Caljumnies+ai%5Eid+C%5Enfures%22">Stanhope</a> (1696; 1706 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good for him also to meet with contradiction and reproach; and to be evil thought of, and evil spoken of, even when his intentions are upright, and his actions blameless; for this keeps him humble, and is a powerful antidote to the poison of vain glory: then chiefly it is, that we have recourse to the witness within us, which is God; when we are outwardly despised, and held in no degree of esteem and favor among men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationchrist01kempgoog/page/n64/mode/2up?q=%22alfo+to+meet+with+contradifiion%22">Payne</a> (1803)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good that we be sometimes contradicted; and that there be an evil or a lessening conceit had of us; and this, although we do and intend well. These things help often to the attaining of humility, and defend us from vain glory: for then we chiefly seek God for our inward witness, when outwardly we be contemned by men, and when there is no credit given unto us.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_0/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22evil+or+a+lessening+conceit%22">Parker</a> (1841)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good for us also to meet with contradiction and reproach; and to be evil thought of, and evil spoken of; even when our intentions are upright, and our actions blameless; for this keeps us humble, and is a powerful antidote to the poison of vain glory. Then chiefly it is, that we have recourse to the witness within us, which is GOD; when we are outwardly despised, and held in no esteem and favor among men. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Of_the_Imitation_of_Jesus_Christ/qBZwsQJdQ2QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22contradiction%20and%20reproach%22">Dibdin</a> (1851)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good that we sometimes suffer contradictions, and that men have an evil or imperfect opinion of us, even when we do and intend well. These things are often helps to humility, and defend us from vain glory. For we then better seek God as our inward witness, when outwardly we are despised by men, and little credit is given to us. <br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_2/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22sometimes+suffer+contradictions%22">Bagster</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good that we sometimes endure contradictions, and are hardly and unfairly judged, when we do and mean what is good. For these things help us to be humble, and shield us from vain-glory. For then we seek the more earnestly the witness of God, when men speak evil of us falsely, and give us no credit for good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1653/pg1653-images.html#chap12:~:text=It%20is%20good%20that,no%20credit%20for%20good.">Benham</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good that we be sometimes contradicted, and this, although we do and intend well. These things help often to the attaining of humility, and defend us from vain glory: for then we are more inclined to seek God for our inward witness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_the_Imitation_of_Christ/Book_I/Chapter_XII#:~:text=It%20is%20good,our%20inward%20witness.">Anon</a>. (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good for us sometimes to suffer contradiction, to be misjudged by men even though we do well and mean well. These things help us to be humble and shield us from vainglory. When to all outward appearances men give us no credit, when they do not think well of us, then we are more inclined to seek God Who sees our hearts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imb1c11-20.html#RTFToC39:~:text=It%20is%20good%20for%20us%20sometimes,seek%20God%20Who%20sees%20our%20hearts">Croft/Bolton</a> (1940)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good for us sometimes to endure contradictions, and to be thought of as bad or imperfect, even when we do and mean well. Such things often help towards meekness, and protect us from idle boasting. For then we look to God, the better inward witness, when we are disparaged from without by men, and no good is credited to us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_r2o4/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22endure+contradictions%22">Daplyn</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It's good for you sometimes to hear men's voices raised against you, and to find that you are making a bad impression, or at least a false impression, on others, even when you are doing your best, and with the best intentions. It often makes for humility; prevents you from having too good an opinion of yourself. It's when we make a bad surface impression, and people are ready to think ill of us, that we learn to fall back upon God's judgements, because he witnesses all our actions from within.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris00knox/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22voices+raised+against%22">Knox-Oakley</a> (1959)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a good thing that we are maligned now and again, and are misjudged and disliked even when we mean and do well. This sort of thing is often a great help in achieving humility, and it keeps us from groundless self-satisfaction; for we are more ready to listen for God’s assuring voice within, when those around believe the worst of us and treat us with contempt<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000thom_o4e9/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22maligned+now%22">Knott</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is good too that we should be contradicted and ill-thought of, even when we act with the best intentions. Experiences like these help us towards humility and guard us against vainglory. When outwardly we are slandered and ill-thought of, then we will yearn more anxiously for God’s inward witness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_e5i0/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22good+too+that%22%22">Rooney</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sometimes it is good that we put up with people speaking against us, and sometimes it is good that we be thought of as bad and flawed, even when we do good things and have good intentions. Such troubles are often aids to humility, and they protect us from pride. Indeed, we are sometimes better seeking God when people have nothing but bad things to say about us and when they refuse to give us credit for the good things we have done!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Imitation_of_Christ/JI7AA0GAbUgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22thought%20of%20as%20bad%20and%20flawed%22">Creasy</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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<br><b>P. G. Wodehouse</b> (1881-1975) Anglo-American humorist, playwright and lyricist [Pelham Grenville Wodehouse]<br><i>Carry On, Jeeves</i> (1925) 
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<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br>&#8220;Miss Manners,&#8221; syndicated column (1980-05-08) 
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