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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doctrine of eternal pain is my trouble with this Christian religion. I reject it on account of its infinite heartlessness. </p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22eternal+pain+is+my%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884. See <a href="https://wist.info/dante-alighieri-poet/56759/">Dante</a> (1309).
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		<description><![CDATA[We are told &#8220;God so loved the world&#8221; that he is going to damn almost everybody. If this orthodox religion be true, some of the greatest, and grandest, and best who ever lived are suffering God&#8217;s torments to-night. It does not appear to make much difference with the members of the church. They go right [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are told &#8220;God so loved the world&#8221; that he is going to damn almost everybody. If this orthodox religion be true, some of the greatest, and grandest, and best who ever lived are suffering God&#8217;s torments to-night. It does not appear to make much difference with the members of the church. They go right on enjoying themselves about as well as ever. If this doctrine is true, Benjamin Franklin, one of the wisest and best of men, who did so much to give us here a free government, is suffering the tyranny of God to-night, although he endeavored to establish freedom among men. If the churches were honest, their preachers would tell their hearers: &#8220;Benjamin Franklin is in hell, and we warn all the youth not to imitate Benjamin Franklin. Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, with its self-evident truths, has been damned these many years.&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Blink0004:~:text=We%20are%20told%20%22God%20so%20loved%20the%20world%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22damn+almost+everybody%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884.

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		<description><![CDATA[In this world we never will be perfectly civilized as long as a gallows casts its shadow upon the earth. As long as there is a penitentiary, within the walls of which a human being is immured, we are not a perfectly civilized people. We shall never be perfectly civilized until we do away with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this world we never will be perfectly civilized as long as a gallows casts its shadow upon the earth. As long as there is a penitentiary, within the walls of which a human being is immured, we are not a perfectly civilized people. We shall never be perfectly civilized until we do away with crime.<br />
<span class="tab">And yet, according to this Christian religion, God is to have an eternal penitentiary; he is to be an everlasting jailer, an everlasting turnkey, a warden of an infinite dungeon, and he is going to keep prisoners there forever, not for the purpose of reforming them &#8212; because they are never going to get any better, only worse &#8212; but for the purpose of purposeless punishment. And for what? For something they failed to believe in this world. Born in ignorance, supported by poverty, caught in the snares of temptation, deformed by toil, stupefied by want &#8212; and yet held responsible through the countless ages of eternity! No man can think of a greater horror; no man can dream of a greater absurdity.</span></p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22perfectly+civilized%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884.						</span>
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		<title>Marlowe, Christopher -- The Tragicall History of the Life and Death of Doctor Faustus, Act 5, sc. 4 (sc. 19), l. 2018ff (5.4.2018-2029) (1594; 1616 &#8220;B&#8221; text)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BAD ANGEL: Now, Faustus, let shine eyes with horror stare Into that vast perpetual torture-house. There are the Furies tossing damned souls On burning forks; their bodies broil in lead. There are live quarters broiling on the coals, That ne&#8217;er can die. This ever-burning chair Is for o&#8217;er-tortured souls to rest them in. These, that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">BAD ANGEL: Now, Faustus, let shine eyes with horror stare<br />
Into that vast perpetual torture-house.<br />
There are the Furies tossing damned souls<br />
On burning forks; their bodies broil in lead.<br />
There are live quarters broiling on the coals,<br />
That ne&#8217;er can die. This ever-burning chair<br />
Is for o&#8217;er-tortured souls to rest them in.<br />
These, that are fed with sops of flaming fire,<br />
Were gluttons, and loved only delicates,<br />
And laughed to see the poor starve at their gates.<br />
But yet all these are nothing; thou shalt see<br />
Ten thousand tortures that more horrid be.</p>
<p class="hangingindent">FAUSTUS: O, I have seen enough to torture me.</p>
<p class="hangingindent">BAD ANGEL: Nay, thou must feel them, taste the smart of all.<br />
He that loves pleasure must for pleasure fall.</p>
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<br><b>Christopher "Kit" Marlowe</b> (1564-1593) English dramatist and poet<br><i>The Tragicall History of the Life and Death of Doctor Faustus</i>, Act 5, sc. 4 (sc. 19), l. 2018ff (5.4.2018-2029) (1594; 1616 &#8220;B&#8221; text) 
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This Dante-like scene with the Bad Angel was added in the "B" text.

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		<description><![CDATA[In his infinite goodness, God invented rheumatism and gout and dyspepsia, cancers and neuralgia, and is still inventing new diseases. Not only this, but he decreed the pangs of mothers, and that by the gates of love and life should crouch the dragons of death and pain. Fearing that some might, by accident, live too [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his infinite goodness, God invented rheumatism and gout and dyspepsia, cancers and neuralgia, and is still inventing new diseases. Not only this, but he decreed the pangs of mothers, and that by the gates of love and life should crouch the dragons of death and pain. Fearing that some might, by accident, live too long, he planted poisonous vines and herbs that looked like food. He caught the serpents he had made and gave them fangs and curious organs, ingeniously devised to distill and deposit the deadly drop. He changed the nature of the beasts, that they might feed on human flesh. He cursed a world, and tainted every spring and source of joy. He poisoned every breath of air; corrupted even light, that it might bear disease on every ray; tainted every drop of blood in human veins; touched every nerve, that it might bear the double fruit of pain and joy; decreed all accidents and mistakes that maim and hurt and kill, and set the snares of life-long grief, baited with present pleasure, &#8212; with a moment&#8217;s joy. Then and there he foreknew and foreordained all human tears. And yet all this is but the prelude, the introduction, to the infinite revenge of the good God. Increase and multiply all human griefs until the mind has reached imagination&#8217;s farthest verge, then add eternity to time, and you may faintly tell, but never can conceive, the infinite horrors of this doctrine called &#8220;The Fall of Man.&#8221; </p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Blink0004:~:text=In%20his%20infinite,Fall%20of%20Man.%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22God+invented+rheumatism%22">Published as its own book</a> in 1884.



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		<description><![CDATA[We are told by the Bible and by the churches that through this fall of man &#8220;Sin and death entered the world.&#8221; According to this, just as soon as Adam and Eve had partaken of the forbidden fruit, God began to contrive ways by which he could destroy the lives of his children. He invented [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">We are told by the Bible and by the churches that through this fall of man<br />
<span class="tab"><em>&#8220;Sin and death entered the world.&#8221;</em><br />
<span class="tab">According to this, just as soon as Adam and Eve had partaken of the forbidden fruit, God began to contrive ways by which he could destroy the lives of his children. He invented all the diseases — all the fevers and coughs and colds — all the pains and plagues and pestilences — all the aches and agonies, the malaria and spores; so that when we take a breath of air we admit into our lungs unseen assassins; and, fearing that some might live too long, even under such circumstances, God invented the earthquake and volcano, the cyclone and lightning, animalcules to infest the heart and brain, so small that no eye can detect — no instrument reach. This was all owing to the disobedience of Adam and Eve!</span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
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Published as <a href="https://archive.org/details/orthodoxylecture00inge/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22sin+and+death+entered%22">its own book</a> in 1884.
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- Antony and Cleopatra, Act 2, sc. 5, l.  94ff (2.5.94-96) (1607)</title>
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The man is innocent.</p>
<p class="hangingindent">CLEOPATRA: Some innocents ’scape not the thunderbolt.</p>
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<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Antony and Cleopatra</i>, Act 2, sc. 5, l.  94ff (2.5.94-96) (1607) 
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		<title>Fuller, Thomas (1654) -- Introductio ad Prudentiam, Vol. 2, # 2524 (1727)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Tis in the Power of Providence to humble the Pride of the Mighty, even by the most despicable Means. Wherefore be thou never so great, or never so little, presume not on the one side, nor despair on the other.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis in the Power of Providence to humble the Pride of the Mighty, even by the most despicable Means. Wherefore be thou never so great, or never so little, presume not on the one side, nor despair on the other.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Fuller</b> (1654-1734) English physician, preacher, aphorist, writer<br><i>Introductio ad Prudentiam</i>, Vol. 2, # 2524 (1727) 
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		<title>Euripides -- Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[NURSE: But not long Can the extremes of grandeur ever last; And heavier are the curses which it brings When Fortune visits us in all her wrath. [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽ οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς, μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.] (Source (Greek)). Other translations: But the height Of tow&#8217;ring greatness long to mortal [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">NURSE: <span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But not long<br />
Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;<br />
And heavier are the curses which it brings<br />
When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽<br />
οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,<br />
μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ<br />
δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]</span></span></span></p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Medea</i> [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)] 
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0113%3Acard%3D96#:~:text=%CF%84%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD,%CE%BF%E1%BC%B4%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%82%2C%20%E1%BC%80%CF%80%CE%AD%CE%B4%CF%89%CE%BA%CE%B5%CE%BD">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But the height<br>
Of tow'ring greatness long to mortal man<br>
Remains not fix'd; and, when misfortune comes<br>
Enraged, in deeper ruin sinks the house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacch%C3%A6_Ion_Alcestis_Medea_Hippolytu/L8tCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22but%20the%20height%22">Potter</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But too high-pitched luck<br>
Stands no mortal in stead at the time of need;<br>
Nay, more, when the god is stirred to his wrath,<br>
Dowers greater curse on the house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Medea_(Webster_1868)#:~:text=But%20too%20high%2Dpitched%20luck%0AStands%20no%20mortal%20in%20stead%20at%20the%20time%20of%20need%3B%0ANay%2C%20more%2C%20when%20the%20god%20is%20stirred%20to%20his%20wrath%2C%0ADowers%20greater%20curse%20on%20the%20house.">Webster</a> (1868)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But greatness that doth o'erreach itself, brings no blessing to mortal men; but pays a penalty of greater ruin whenever fortune is wroth with a family.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/Medea#:~:text=but%20greatness%20that%20doth%20o%27erreach%20itself%2C%20brings%20no%20blessing%20to%20mortal%20men%3B%20but%20pays%20a%20penalty%20of%20greater%20ruin%20whenever%20fortune%20is%20wroth%20with%20a%20family.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But excess of fortune brings more power to men than is convenient, and has brought greater woes upon families, when the Deity be enraged.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15081/pg15081-images.html#MEDEA:~:text=but%20excess%20of%20fortune%20brings%20more%20power%20to%20men%20than%20is%20convenient%3B%5B8%5D%20and%20has%20brought%20greater%20woes%20upon%20families%2C%20when%20the%20Deity%20be%20enraged.">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But to men never weal above measure<br>
Availed: on its perilous height<br>
The Gods in their hour of displeasure<br>
The heavier smite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Medea#:~:text=But%20to%20men%20never%20weal%20above%20measure%0AAvailed%3A%20on%20its%20perilous%20height%0AThe%20Gods%20in%20their%20hour%20of%20displeasure%0AThe%20heavier%20smite.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But the fiercely great<br>
<span class="tab">Hath little music on his road,<br>
<span class="tab">And falleth, when the hand of God<br>
Shall move, most deep and desolate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35451/pg35451-images.html#:~:text=but%20the%20fiercely%20great%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Hath%20little%20music%20on%20his%20road%2C%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20And%20falleth%2C%20when%20the%20hand%20of%20God%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Shall%20move%2C%20most%20deep%20and%20desolate.">Murray</a> (1906)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Greatness brings no profit to people. <br>
God indeed, when in anger, brings <br>
Greater ruin to great men’s houses.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-warner.ocr/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22greatness+brings%22">Warner</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is the wild and terrible justice of God: it brings on great persons<br>
The great disasters.
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeafreelyadapt0000robi/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22wild+and+terrible%22">Jeffers</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To be rich and powerful brings no blessing;<br>
Only more utterly<br>
Is the prosperous house destroyed, when the gods are angry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22to+be+rich%22">Vellacott</a> (1963)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Excess on the other hand<br>
Always surpasses what is appropriate for men.<br>
When heaven is angered at a house<br>
It pays back ruin in plenty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-podlecki_20220818/page/19/mode/2up?q=%22excess+on+the+other%22">Podlecki</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But excessive riches mean no advantage for mortals, and when a god is angry at a house, they make the ruin greater.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0114%3Acard%3D96#:~:text=But%20excessive%20riches%20mean%20no%20advantage%20for%20mortals%2C%20and%20when%20a%20god%20is%20angry%20at%20a%20house%2C%20%5B130%5D%20they%20make%20the%20ruin%20greater.">Kovacs</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Excess, though, means no profit for man and pays him back with greater ruin, whenever a house earns heaven's anger.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri_d3q9/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22excess+though%22">Davie</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If man holds something else dearer to moderation, he will most certainly lose out in the end.  Add to that the wrath of the gods, which will fall most heavily upon such a man’s house and which will destroy him.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/medea/#:~:text=if%20man%20holds%20something%20else%20dearer%20to%20moderation%2C%20he%20will%20most%20certainly%20lose%20out%20in%20the%20end.%C2%A0%20Add%20to%20that%20the%20wrath%20of%20the%20gods%2C%20which%20will%20fall%20most%20heavily%20upon%20such%20a%20man%E2%80%99s%20house%20and%20which%20will%20destroy%20him.">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But excess <br>
never should have a place in our lives. <br>
It brings all the greater ruin <br>
when some god feels spite toward a house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/euripides-medea/#:~:text=But%20excess%C2%A0%0Anever%20should%20have%20a%20place%20in%20our%20lives.%C2%A0%0AIt%20brings%20all%20the%20greater%20ruin%C2%A0%0Awhen%20some%20god%20feels%20spite%20toward%20a%20house.">Luschnig</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Going for too much brings no benefits.<br>
And when the gods get angry with some home,<br>
the more wealth it has, the more it is destroyed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/medeahtml.html#:~:text=Going%20for%20too%20much%20brings%20no%20benefits.%0AAnd%20when%20the%20gods%20get%20angry%20with%20some%20home%2C%0Athe%20more%20wealth%20it%20has%2C%20the%20more%20it%20is%20destroyed.">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Excess does not yield any gain,<br>
for when a god is angry with a house<br>
it pays with great destruction.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_Medea/kNBUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22excess%20does%20not%20yield%22">Ewans</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Extreme greatness brings no balance to mortal men, and pays a penalty of greater disaster <em>[atē]</em>  whenever a superhuman force [daimōn] is angry with a household <em>[oikos]</em>.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-medea/#:~:text=Extreme%20greatness%20brings%20no%20balance%20to%20mortal%20men%2C%20and%20pays%20a%20penalty%20of%20greater%20disaster%20%5Bat%C4%93%5D%20%7C130%20whenever%20a%20superhuman%20force%20%5Bdaim%C5%8Dn%5D%20is%20angry%20with%20a%20household%20%5Boikos%5D.">Coleridge / Ceragioli / Nagy / Hour25</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is so pleasing to these gods as the butchery of unbelievers. Nothing so enrages them, even now, as to have some one deny their existence.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois 
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First given on the 135th birthday of Thomas Paine. <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22nothing+is+so+pleasing%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">There was another man, however, called Ananias. He and his wife, Sapphira, agreed to sell a property; but with his wife&#8217;s connivance he kept back part of the proceeds, and brought the rest and presented it to the apostles.<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Ananias,&#8221; Peter said &#8220;how can Satan have so possessed you that you should lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the money from the land? While you still owned the land, wasn&#8217;t it yours to keep, and after you had sold it wasn&#8217;t the money yours to do with as you liked? What put this scheme into your mind? It is not to men that you have lied, but to God.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">When he heard this Ananias fell down dead. This made a profound impression on everyone present.</p>
<p><span class="tab">[Ἀνὴρ δέ τις Ἁνανίας ὀνόματι σὺν Σαπφίρῃ τῇ γυναικὶ αὐτοῦ ἐπώλησεν κτῆμα καὶ ἐνοσφίσατο ἀπὸ τῆς τιμῆς, συνειδυίης καὶ τῆς γυναικός, καὶ ἐνέγκας μέρος τι παρὰ τοὺς πόδας τῶν ἀποστόλων ἔθηκεν.<br />
<span class="tab">εἶπεν δὲ ὁ Πέτρος, Ἁνανία, διὰ τί ἐπλήρωσεν ὁ Σατανᾶς τὴν καρδίαν σου, ψεύσασθαί σε τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον καὶ νοσφίσασθαι ἀπὸ τῆς τιμῆς τοῦ χωρίου; οὐχὶ μένον σοὶ ἔμενεν καὶ πραθὲν ἐν τῇ σῇ ἐξουσίᾳ ὑπῆρχεν; τί ὅτι ἔθου ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου τὸ πρᾶγμα τοῦτο; οὐκ ἐψεύσω ἀνθρώποις ἀλλὰ τῷ θεῷ.<br />
<span class="tab">ἀκούων δὲ ὁ Ἁνανίας τοὺς λόγους τούτους πεσὼν ἐξέψυξεν, καὶ ἐγένετο φόβος μέγας ἐπὶ πάντας τοὺς ἀκούοντας.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>The Bible (The New Testament)</b> (AD 1st - 2nd C) Christian sacred scripture<br>Book  5. <i>Acts of the Apostles</i>  5: 1ff (Acts 5:1-5) [JB (1966)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.seraphim.my/bible/jb/JB-NT05%20ACTS.htm#:~:text=There%20was%20another,on%20everyone%20present." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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In <a href="https://www.seraphim.my/bible/jb/JB-NT05%20ACTS.htm#:~:text=5%3A6%20The,who%20heard%20it.">verses 6-11</a>, Peter asks Sapphira about the proceeds, and she backs Ananias' story, at which point, confronted with the truth, she drops dead, too, also impressing everyone present.<br><br>

(<a href="https://tips.translation.bible/tip_verse/acts-51/">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. <br>
<span class="tab">But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. <br>
<span class="tab">And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%205%3A1-5&version=AKJV">KJV</a> (1611)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">There was also a man called Ananias. He and his wife, Sapphira, agreed to sell a property; but with his wife's connivance he kept back part of the price and brought the rest and presented it to the apostles.<br>
<span class="tab">Peter said, 'Ananias, how can Satan have so possessed you that you should lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land? While you still owned the land, wasn't it yours to keep, and after you had sold it wasn't the money yours to do with as you liked? What put this scheme into your mind? You have been lying not to men, but to God.'<br>
<span class="tab">When he heard this Ananias fell down dead. And a great fear came upon everyone present.<br>
[<a href="https://www.bibliacatolica.com.br/en/new-jerusalem-bible/acts/5/#:~:text=There%20was%20also,upon%20everyone%20present.">NJB</a> (1985)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">But there was a man named Ananias, who with his wife Sapphira sold some property that belonged to them. But with his wife's agreement he kept part of the money for himself and turned the rest over to the apostles. <br>
<span class="tab">Peter said to him, “Ananias, why did you let Satan take control of you and make you lie to the Holy Spirit by keeping part of the money you received for the property? Before you sold the property, it belonged to you; and after you sold it, the money was yours. Why, then, did you decide to do such a thing? You have not lied to people -- you have lied to God!” <br>
<span class="tab">As soon as Ananias heard this, he fell down dead; and all who heard about it were terrified.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%205%3A1-5&version=GNT">GNT</a> (1992 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">However, a man named Ananias, along with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property. With his wife’s knowledge, he withheld some of the proceeds from the sale. He brought the rest and placed it in the care and under the authority of the apostles. <br>
<span class="tab">Peter asked, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has influenced you to lie to the Holy Spirit by withholding some of the proceeds from the sale of your land? Wasn’t that property yours to keep? After you sold it, wasn’t the money yours to do with whatever you wanted? What made you think of such a thing? You haven’t lied to other people but to God!” <br>
<span class="tab">When Ananias heard these words, he dropped dead. Everyone who heard this conversation was terrified.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%205%3A1-5&version=CEB">CEB</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">But a man named Ananias, with the consent of his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property; with his wife’s knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. <br>
<span class="tab">“Ananias,” Peter asked, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, were not the proceeds at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You did not lie to us but to God!” <br>
<span class="tab">Now when Ananias heard these words, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard of it.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%205%3A1-5&version=NRSVUE">NRSV</a> (2021 ed.)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Montaigne, Michel de -- Essays, Book 1, ch. 31 (1.31), &#8220;That a Man Is Soberly to Judge of the Divine Ordinance [Qu’il faut sobrement se mesler de juger des ordonnances divines] (1572) [tr. Ives (1925), ch. 32]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We must be content with the light that it may please the sun to shed upon us by his beams; and he who shall raise his eyes to bring a brighter beam into his very body, let him not think it strange if, for the punishment of his audacity, he thus lose his sight. [Il [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must be content with the light that it may please the sun to shed upon us by his beams; and he who shall raise his eyes to bring a brighter beam into his very body, let him not think it strange if, for the punishment of his audacity, he thus lose his sight.</p>
<p><em>[Il se faut contenter de la lumiere qu’il plaist au Soleil nous communiquer par ses rayons, &#038; qui eslevera ses yeux pour en prendre une plus grande dans son corps mesme, qu’il ne trouve pas estrange, si pour la peine de son outrecuidance il y perd la veuë.]</em></p>
<br><b>Michel de Montaigne</b> (1533-1592) French essayist<br><i>Essays</i>, Book 1, ch. 31 (1.31), &#8220;That a Man Is Soberly to Judge of the Divine Ordinance <i>[Qu’il faut sobrement se mesler de juger des ordonnances divines]</i> (1572) [tr. Ives (1925), ch. 32] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Book_I/Myt1MG8XBqYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22we%20must%20be%20content%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On discerning God's will.<br><br>

This passage of this essay was in the 1st (1580) edition.<br><br>

(<a href="https://hyperessays.net/gournay/book/I/chapter/31/#:~:text=Il%20se%20faut%20contenter%20de%20la%20lumiere%20qu%E2%80%99il%20plaist%20au%20Soleil%20nous%20communiquer%20par%20ses%20rayons%2C%20%26%20qui%20eslevera%20ses%20yeux%20pour%20en%20prendre%20une%20plus%20grande%20dans%20son%20corps%20mesme%2C%20qu%E2%80%99il%20ne%20trouve%20pas%20estrange%2C%20si%20pour%20la%20peine%20de%20son%20outrecuidance%20il%20y%20perd%20la%20veu%C3%AB.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>A man should be satisfied with the light, which it pleaseth the Sunne to communicate unto us by vertue of his beames; and he that shall lift up his eyes to take a greater within his bodie, let him not thinke it strange, if for a reward of his over-weening and arrogancie he loose his sight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/florio/book/I/chapter/31/#:~:text=A%20man%20should%20be%20satisfied%20with%20the%20light%2C%20which%20it%20pleaseth%20the%20Sunne%20to%20communicate%20unto%20us%20by%20vertue%20of%20his%20beames%3B%20and%20he%20that%20shall%20lift%20up%20his%20eyes%20to%20take%20a%20greater%20within%20his%20bodie%2C%20let%20him%20not%20thinke%2Dit%20strange%2C%20if%20for%20a%20reward%20of%20his%20over%2Dweening%20and%20arrogancie%20he%20loose%20his%20sight">Florio</a> (1603)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We are to content ourselves with the light it pleases the sun to communicate to us, by virtue of his rays, and he that will lift up his eyes to take in a greater, let him not think it strange if, for the punishment of his presumption, he thereby lose his sight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essaysmichaelde01montgoog/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22We+are+to+content%22">Cotton</a> (1686)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We are to content ourselves with the light it pleases the sun to communicate to us, by virtue of his rays; and who will lift up his eyes to take in a greater, let him not think it strange, if for the reward of his presumption, he there lose his sight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/essays/hazarding-an-opinion-on-gods-plans-demands-caution/#:~:text=We%20are%20to%20content%20ourselves%20with%20the%20light%20it%20pleases%20the%20sun%20to%20communicate%20to%20us%2C%20by%20virtue%20of%20his%20rays%3B%20and%20who%20will%20lift%20up%20his%20eyes%20to%20take%20in%20a%20greater%2C%20let%20him%20not%20think%20it%20strange%2C%20if%20for%20the%20reward%20of%20his%20presumption%2C%20he%20there%20lose%20his%20sight.">Cotton/Hazlitt</a> (1877)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We must be content with the light that it pleases the sun to communicate to us by its rays; and if anyone raises his eyes to gain a greater light from its very body, let him not find it strange if as a penalty for his presumption he loses his sight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeworksofm0000mont/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22must+be+content%22">Frame</a> (1943), 1.32]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We must be content with the light which the Sun vouchsafes to shed on us by its rays: were a man to lift up his eyes to seek a greater light in the Sun itself, let him not find it strange if he is blinded as a penalty for his presumption. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/the-complete-essays-montaigne-michel-de-1533-1592/page/243/mode/2up?q=%22content+with+the+light%22">Screech</a> (1987), 1.32]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Electra [Ἠλέκτρα], l.  985ff (c. 420 BC) [tr. Wilson (2016)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ORESTES: I&#8217;ll go. I&#8217;ll start to do this dreadful thing, this horror. Yes, I will. If it&#8217;s the gods&#8217; will, I&#8217;ll do it. But I take no joy in it. [ὈΡΈΣΤΗΣ: ἔσειμι: δεινοῦ δ᾽ ἄρχομαι προβλήματος καὶ δεινὰ δράσω γε — εἰ θεοῖς δοκεῖ τάδε, ἔστω: πικρὸν δὲ χἡδὺ τἀγώνισμά μοι.] Orestes going to kill [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">ORESTES: I&#8217;ll go. I&#8217;ll start to do this dreadful thing, this horror. Yes, I will. If it&#8217;s the gods&#8217; will, I&#8217;ll do it. But I take no joy in it.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ὈΡΈΣΤΗΣ: ἔσειμι: δεινοῦ δ᾽ ἄρχομαι προβλήματος<br />
καὶ δεινὰ δράσω γε — εἰ θεοῖς δοκεῖ τάδε,<br />
ἔστω: πικρὸν δὲ χἡδὺ τἀγώνισμά μοι.]</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Electra</i> [Ἠλέκτρα], l.  985ff (c. 420 BC) [tr. Wilson (2016)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Greek_Plays/P5O5DAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22orestes%20i%27ll%20go%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Orestes going to kill his mother, Clytemnestra, who was, along with the already-killed Aegisthus, the murderer of his father, Agamemnon.<br><br>

Interestingly, earlier translations have him characterize the task as both bitter and sweet; later ones only speak of its bitterness.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0095%3Acard%3D957#:~:text=%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BC%CE%B9%3A%20%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%BF%E1%BF%A6%20%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CF%81%CF%87%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%B2%CE%BB%CE%AE%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82%0A%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%B4%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%83%CF%89%20%CE%B3%CE%B5%20%E2%80%94%20%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%82%20%CE%B4%CE%BF%CE%BA%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%20%CF%84%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B5%2C%0A%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%3A%20%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%81%E1%BD%B8%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CF%87%E1%BC%A1%CE%B4%E1%BD%BA%20%CF%84%E1%BC%80%CE%B3%CF%8E%CE%BD%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%AC%20%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%B9.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I go in. <br>
Tho' I am entering on a deed that's fraught <br>
With horror, I will execute the deed; <br>
Thus let it be, if thus the righteous Gods <br>
Ordain: altho' this conflict to my soul <br>
At the same time be bitter, and yet sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/294/mode/2up?q=%22Tho*+I+am+entering%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in; it is a dreadful task I am beginning and I will do dreadful things. If the gods approve, let it be; to me the contest is bitter and also sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0096%3Acard%3D957#:~:text=I%20will%20go%20in%3B%20it%20is%20a%20dreadful%20task%20I%20am%20beginning%20and%20I%20will%20do%20dreadful%20things.%20If%20the%20gods%20approve%2C%20let%20it%20be%3B%20to%20me%20the%20contest%20is%20bitter%20and%20also%20sweet.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will enter in; but I am beginning a dreadful attempt. Ay, and I shall do dreadful things; but if this seems fit to the Gods, let it be; but the contest is for me [at once] bitter and sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_tragedies_of_Euripides_literally_tr/xdkNAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20will%20enter%20in%22">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in. A horror I essay!<br>
Yea, horrors will achieve! If this please Heaven,<br>
So be it. Bitter strife, yet sweet, for me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Electra#:~:text=I%20will%20go,sweet%2C%20for%20me.">Way</a> (1896)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aye. So be it. -- I have ta'en<br>
A path of many terrors: and shall do<br>
Deeds horrible. 'Tis God will have it so. ...<br>
Is this the joy of battle, or wild woe?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Electra_(Murray)/Text#:~:text=Aye.%20So%20be%20it.%E2%80%94I%20have%20ta%27en">Murray</a> (1905)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in; 'tis an awful task I undertake; an awful deed I have to do; still if it is Heaven's will, be it so; I loathe and yet I love the enterprise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completegreekdr02oate/page/96/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22i+will+go+in+tis%22">Coleridge</a> (1938 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fine. I am going inside. Terrible the deed I shall begin and frightening the deeds I shall accomplish. If this is liked by the gods then so be it. My battle is bitter, not sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/elektra-aka-electra/#:~:text=Fine.%20I%20am%20going%20inside.%20Terrible%20the%20deed%20I%20shall%20begin%20and%20frightening%20the%20deeds%20I%20shall%20accomplish.%20If%20this%20is%20liked%20by%20the%20gods%20then%20so%20be%20it.%20My%20battle%20is%20bitter%2C%20not%20sweet.">Theodoridis</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I’ll go in.<br>
I’m on the verge of a horrendous act,<br>
something truly dreadful. Well, so be it,<br>
if gods approve of this. And yet, for me<br>
the contest is not sweet at all, but bitter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/electrahtml.html#:~:text=I%E2%80%99ll%20go%20in.%0AI%E2%80%99m%20on%20the%20verge%20of%20a%20horrendous%20act%2C%0Asomething%20truly%20dreadful.%20Well%2C%20so%20be%20it%2C%0Aif%20gods%20approve%20of%20this.%20And%20yet%2C%20for%20me%0Athe%20contest%20is%20not%20sweet%20at%20all%2C%20but%20bitter.">Johnston</a> (2009)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[CHORUS: But fairy tales that scare us humans are useful for religion. [ΧΟΡΟΣ: φοβεροὶ δὲ βροτοῖσι μῦ- θοι κέρδος πρὸς θεῶν θεραπεί- αν.] Following recounting of a story in which Zeus made the sun move backwards in the sky to punish Thyestes for his treachery. (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: Fresh strength is added to religion&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">CHORUS: But fairy tales that scare us humans<br />
are useful for religion.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ΧΟΡΟΣ: φοβεροὶ δὲ βροτοῖσι μῦ-<br />
θοι κέρδος πρὸς θεῶν θεραπεί-<br />
αν.]</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Electra</i> [Ἠλέκτρα], l.  743ff, Antistrophe 2 (c. 420 BC) [tr. Wilson (2016)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Greek_Plays/P5O5DAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22fairy+tales+that+scare+us+humans%22&pg=PA614&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Following <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/electrahtml.html#n17:~:text=Thyestes%20and%20Atreus,shrine%20was%20located.">recounting of a story</a> in which Zeus made the sun move backwards in the sky to punish Thyestes for his treachery.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0095%3Acard%3D737#:~:text=%CF%86%CE%BF%CE%B2%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%BF%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CE%B2%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%84%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%83%CE%B9,%CE%B1%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>Fresh strength is added to religion's base <br>
By fables which man's breast with terror fill.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/282/mode/2up?q=%22but+tales+like+these%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But tales that frighten men are profitable for service to the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0096%3Acard%3D737#:~:text=But%20tales%20that%20frighten%20men%20are%20profitable%20for%20service%20to%20the%20gods">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But stories terrible to mortals are a gain for the worship of the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_tragedies_of_Euripides_literally_tr/xdkNAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22stories%20terrible%22">Buckley</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet it may be the tale liveth, soul-affraying,<br>
To bow us to Godward in lowly obeying.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Electra#:~:text=Yet%20it%20may%20be%20the%20tale%20liveth%2C%20soul%2Daffraying%2C%0ATo%20bow%20us%20to%20Godward%20in%20lowly%20obeying.">Way</a> (1896)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Once, men told the tale, and trembled;<br>
<span class="tab">Fearing God.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Electra_(Murray)/Text#:~:text=Once%2C%20men%20told%20the%20tale%2C%20and%20trembled%3B%0A%0AFearing%20God">Murray</a> (1905)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Such shocking myths are for the good of men, to frighten them into believing in the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/elektra-aka-electra/#:~:text=Such%20shocking%20myths%20are%20for%20the%20good%20of%20men%2C%20to%20frighten%20them%20into%20believing%20in%20the%20gods.">Theodoridis</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But tales which terrify mankind<br>
are profitable and serve the gods.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/electrahtml.html#:~:text=But%20tales%20which%20terrify%20mankind%0Aare%20profitable%20and%20serve%20the%20gods.">Johnston</a> (2009)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- King Lear, Act 4, sc. 1, l.  41ff (4.1.41-42) (1606)</title>
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They kill us for their sport.</p>
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<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>King Lear</i>, Act 4, sc. 1, l.  41ff (4.1.41-42) (1606) 
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 2 &#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221; Canto  3, l.  31ff (3.31-39) (1314) [tr. Kirkpatrick (2007)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To suffer torments both of heat and chill,<br />
<span class="tab">the Utmost Power gives bodies, fit for that,<br />
<span class="tab">not wishing <i>how</i> it does to be revealed.<br />
It&#8217;s madness if we hope that rational minds<br />
<span class="tab">should ever follow to its end the road<br />
<span class="tab">that one true being in three persons takes.<br />
Content yourselves with <i>quia</i>, human kind.<br />
<span class="tab">Had you been able to see everything,<br />
<span class="tab">Mary need not have laboured to give birth. </p>
<p><em>[A sofferir tormenti, caldi e geli<br />
<span class="tab">simili corpi la Virtù dispone<br />
<span class="tab">che, come fa, non vuol ch’a noi si sveli.<br />
Matto è chi spera che nostra ragione<br />
<span class="tab">possa trascorrer la infinita via<br />
<span class="tab">che tiene una sustanza in tre persone.<br />
State contenti, umana gente, al quia;<br />
<span class="tab">ché, se potuto aveste veder tutto,<br />
<span class="tab">mestier non era parturir Maria.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 2 <i>&#8220;Purgatorio,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.  31ff (3.31-39) (1314) [tr. Kirkpatrick (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy2pur0000dant/page/20/mode/2up?q=quia" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Virgil chides Dante to stop trying to figure out the biology, let alone divine purpose, of the Afterlife, and just accept the <em>what</em> <em>(quia),</em> the existence of it, rather than the <em>how</em> or <em>why</em>, which are as incomprehensible as the Trinity; if human reason could suffice to understand God, there would have been no reason for Jesus to have been born to save humanity.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Purgatorio/Canto_III#:~:text=A%20sofferir%20tormenti,era%20parturir%20Maria">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Why these sky-woven forms, that seem to fly<br>
All mortal sense, can suffer and enjoy<br>
<span class="tab">Heav'n's bliss, and all th' extremes of fire and frost, <br>
That Power that so decrees, can best explain: <br>
Created plummet sounds that depth in vain.<br>
<span class="tab">In <i>that</i>, as in the Trinal Union, lost.<br>
Too anxious mortals! learn to be resign'd;<br>
Could the deep secrets of th' Almighty Mind<br>
<span class="tab">Be seen, nor Sin nor Savior had been known.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediad00unkngoog/page/n88/mode/2up?q=%22Why+tfiefe+flty-woven%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 7-8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To endure<br>
Torments of heat and cold extreme, like frames<br>
That virtue hath dispos’d, which how it works<br>
Wills not to us should be reveal’d. Insane<br>
Who hopes, our reason may that space explore,<br>
Which holds three persons in one substance knit.<br>
Seek not the wherefore, race of human kind;<br>
Could ye have seen the whole, no need had been<br>
For Mary to bring forth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8795/8795-h/8795-h.htm#cantoII.3:~:text=To%20endure%0ATorments,to%20bring%20forth.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both the cold and hot,<br>
<span class="tab">Bodies alike in form has he annealed --<br>
<span class="tab">The how he wishes not to use revealed.<br>
Foolish! who think our reason can unveil,<br>
<span class="tab">Or hope to pass the infinital way<br>
<span class="tab">To find three persons one Substantiality:<br>
Remain content without the manner how.<br>
<span class="tab">Could you have seen at once the whole of worth, <br>
<span class="tab">Why was it meet Maria should bring forth?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22to+suffer+torments%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both of cold and heat,<br>
<span class="tab">Bodies like this that Power provides, which wills<br>
<span class="tab">That how it works be not unveiled to us.<br>
Insane is he who hopeth that our reason<br>
<span class="tab">Can traverse the illimitable way, ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">Which the one Substance in three Persons follows!<br>
Mortals, remain contented at the <i>Quia;</i><br>
<span class="tab">For if ye had been able to see all,<br>
<span class="tab">No need there were for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_2/Canto_3#:~:text=To%20suffer%20torments,to%20give%20birth">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments both of heat and cold that Power ordains such bodies, which will not that the manner of its working be revealed to us. Mad is he who hopes that our reason can travel over the boundless way, which one Substance in three Persons holds. Remain content, race of mankind, at the <i>quia,</i> for if you could have seen all no need was there that Mary should bring forth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorydantea00aliggoog/page/n44/mode/2up?q=%22suffer+torments%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, heat, and cold, is given<br>
<span class="tab">To bodies like to this, by high decree,<br>
<span class="tab">The how 'tis done by man cannot be riven. <br>
He's mad who thinks our human reason free <br>
<span class="tab">Along the infinite career to run, <br>
<span class="tab">Of God, the substance one in Persons three. <br>
Be ye content, O man, the Why unknown:<br>
<span class="tab">Had ye been able to behold the whole,<br>
<span class="tab">No need had Mary to bring forth her son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22suffer+torments%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, both hot and cold, bodies like this the Power ordains, which wills not that how it acts be revealed to us. Mad is he who hopes that our reason can traverse the infinite way which One Substance in Three Persons holds. Be content, human race, with the <i>quia;</i> for if ye had been able to see everything, need had not been for Mary to bear child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1996/1996-h/1996-h.htm#cantoII.III:~:text=To%20suffer%20torments,to%20hear%20child">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">To suffer torments, heat and frost, bodies such as these that power disposes, which will not that its workings be revealed to us. <br>
<span class="tab">Mad is he who hopes that our reason may compass that infinitude which one substance in three persons fills.<br>
<span class="tab">Be ye content, O human race, with the <i>quia!</i> For if ye had been able to see the whole, no need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Purgatorio_of_Dante_Alighieri/ygLFmww0EEYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22suffer%20torments%22">Okey</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power fits such bodies as these to suffer torments of heat and frost which wills not that the way of its working should be revealed to us. Foolish is he who hopes that our reason can trace the infinite ways taken by one Substance in three Persons. Rest content, race of men, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see all there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/iipurgatoriowith00dant/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22Power+fits+such%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That power disposes bodies like to mine<br>
<span class="tab">In torments both of heat and frost to weep<br>
<span class="tab">Which wills not that its working we divine.<br>
He is mad who hopes that reason in its sweep<br>
<span class="tab">The infinite way can traverse back and forth<br>
<span class="tab">Which the Three Persons in one substance keep.<br>
With the <i>quia</i> stay content, children of earth!<br>
<span class="tab">For if the whole before your eyes had lain,<br>
<span class="tab">No need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/198/mode/2up?q=%22power+disposes%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bodies like mine, to bear pain, cold and heat,<br>
<span class="tab">That power ordains, whose will forever spreads<br>
<span class="tab">A veil between its working and our wit.<br>
Madness! that reason lodged in human heads<br>
<span class="tab">should hope to traverse backward and unweave<br>
<span class="tab">The infinite path Three-personed Substance treads.<br>
Content you with the <i>quia,</i> sons of Eve,<br>
<span class="tab">For had you power to see the whole truth plain<br>
<span class="tab">No need had been for Mary to conceive.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteali00alig/page/88/mode/2up?q=quia">Sayers</a> (1955)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">We react<br>
within these bodies to pain and heat and cold <br>
<span class="tab">according to the workings of That Will <br>
<span class="tab">which does not will that all Its ways be told. <br>
He is insane who dreams that he may learn <br>
<span class="tab">by mortal reasoning the boundless orbit <br>
<span class="tab">Three Persons in One Substance fill and turn.<br>
Be satisfied with the <i>quia</i> of cause unknown,<br>
<span class="tab">O humankind! for could you have seen All,<br>
<span class="tab">Mary need not have suffered to bear a son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio00dant/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22within+these+bodies%22">Ciardi</a> (1961)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To suffer torments, heat, and frost, bodies such as these that Power ordains, which wills not that the way of its working be revealed to us. Foolish is he who hopes that our reason may compass the infinite course taken by One Substance in Three Persons. Be content, human race, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see everything, no need was there for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_II_Purgatorio_Vol_II_P/2Q48EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20suffer%20torments%22">Singleton</a> (1973)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet bodies such as ours are sensitive<br>
<span class="tab">to pain and cold and heat -- willed by that Power<br>
<span class="tab">which wills its secret not to be revealed;<br>
madness it is to hope that human minds<br>
<span class="tab">can ever understand the Infinite<br>
<span class="tab">that comprehends Three Persons in One Being.<br>
Be staisfied with <i>quia</i> unexplained,<br>
<span class="tab">O human race! If you knew everything,<br>
<span class="tab">no need for Mary to have borne a son.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantealighierisd03dant/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22yet+bodies+such%22">Musa</a> (1981)] </blockquote>v

<blockquote>Omnipotence disposes bodies like mine <br>
<span class="tab">To suffer torments both from heat and cold, <br>
<span class="tab">And how it does so, does not see fit to reveal.<br>
Only a madman would expect our reason <br>
<span class="tab">To follow all that infinite approach <br>
<span class="tab">And understand one substance in three persons.<br>
The human race should be content with the <i>quia:</i> <br>
<span class="tab">For if it had been able to see everything, <br>
<span class="tab">No need for Mary to have had a child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/208/mode/2up?q=%22omnipotence+disposes%22">Sisson</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power has disposed such bodiless <br>
<span class="tab">bodies to suffer torments, heat and cold: <br>
<span class="tab">how this is done, He would not have us know.<br>
Foolish is he who hopes our intellect <br>
<span class="tab">can reach the end of that unending road <br>
<span class="tab">only one Substance in three Persons follows.<br>
Confine yourselves, o humans, to the <i>quia;</i> <br>
<span class="tab">had you been able to see all, there would <br>
<span class="tab">have been no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/purgatorio0000dant_m5q7/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22the+power+has+disposed%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Such bodies are disposed to suffer torments, heat, and freezings by the Power that does not wish its ways to be unveiled to us.<br>
<span class="tab">He is mad who hopes that our reason can traverse the infinite way taken by one Substance in three Persons.<br>
<span class="tab">Be content, human people, with the <i>quia;</i> for if you had been able to see everything, there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0002dant_d4k9/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22such+bodies+are+disposed%22">Durling</a> (2003)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That power, that does not will that its workings should be revealed to us, disposes bodies such as these to suffer torments, fire and ice. He is foolish who hopes that our reason may journey on the infinite road, that one substance in three persons owns. Stay, content, human race, with the <i>‘what’:</i> since if you had been able to understand it all, there would have been no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantPurg1to7.php#anchor_Toc64099526:~:text=That%20power%2C%20that,to%20give%20birth">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Power that fits bodies like ours<br>
<span class="tab">to suffer torments, heat, and cold<br>
<span class="tab">does not reveal the secret of its working.<br>
Foolish is he who hopes that with our reason<br>
<span class="tab">we can trace the infinite path<br>
<span class="tab">taken by one Substance in three Persons.<br>
Be content, then, all you mortals, with the <i>quia,</i><br>
<span class="tab">for could you, on your own, have understood,<br>
<span class="tab">there was no need for Mary to give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?INP_POEM=Purg&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=31&INP_LEN=9&LANG=0">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These bodies were made by God, they endure troubles,<br>
<span class="tab">And heat, and frost -- but we are not informed<br>
<span class="tab">How this is accomplished; He does not want us to know.<br>
You have to be mad, hoping that human reason<br>
<span class="tab">Can ever unravel the infinite things He does,<br>
<span class="tab">Three Persons simultaneously only One.<br>
Be satisfied, O humans, with Reality,<br>
<span class="tab">For had you ever been able to see and know <br>
<span class="tab">It all, why bother with God in Mary's womb?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22these%20bodies%20were%20made%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto 12, l.  49ff (12.49-51) (1309) [tr. James (2013)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blind greed! Brainless rage! In our brief lives they drive us beyond sense And leave us misery for a heritage Throughout eternity! [Oh cieca cupidigia e ira folle, che sì ci sproni ne la vita corta, e ne l’etterna poi sì mal c’immolle!] On seeing Phlegethon, the river of boiling blood, in which those who [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Blind greed! Brainless rage!<br />
In our brief lives they drive us beyond sense<br />
<span class="tab">And leave us misery for a heritage<br />
<span class="tab">Throughout eternity!</p>
<p><em>[Oh cieca cupidigia e ira folle,<br />
<span class="tab">che sì ci sproni ne la vita corta,<br />
<span class="tab">e ne l’etterna poi sì mal c’immolle!]</span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto 12, l.  49ff (12.49-51) (1309) [tr. James (2013)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22brainless+rage%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On seeing Phlegethon, the river of boiling blood, in which those who violently injured others (through greed or wrath) are forced to stand for all eternity. <br><br>

Some versions have this as something Virgil says; most make it an exclamation of Dante's.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_XII#:~:text=Oh%20cieca%20cupidigia%20e%20ira%20folle%2C%0Ache%20s%C3%AC%20ci%20sproni%20ne%20la%20vita%20corta%2C%0Ae%20ne%20l%E2%80%99etterna%20poi%20s%C3%AC%20mal%20c%E2%80%99immolle!">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">O foolish Rage, O blind desire,<br>
That spurs you on, in the short life above,<br>
To such dire Acts as to eternity<br>
Will keep you in this wretched bath below!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22o%20foolish%20rage%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 45ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">O blind lust!<br>
O foolish wrath! who so dost goad us on<br>
<span class="tab">In the brief life, and in the eternal then<br>
<span class="tab">Thus miserably o’erwhelm us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.12:~:text=O%20blind%20lust!%0AO%20foolish%20wrath!%20who%20so%20dost%20goad%20us%20on%0AIn%20the%20brief%20life%2C%20and%20in%20the%20eternal%20then%0AThus%20miserably%20o%E2%80%99erwhelm%20us.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh blinded lust! oh anger void of sense! <br>
<span class="tab">To spur us o'er the shorter life so bold, <br>
<span class="tab">So fell to steep us in the life immense!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n82/mode/2up?q=%22Oh+blinded+lust%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh blind cupidity [both wicked and foolish], <br>
<span class="tab">which so incites us in the short life, and then, <br>
<span class="tab">in the eternal, steeps us so bitterly!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blind%20cupidity%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity! O foolish wrath!<br>
<span class="tab">Thorough this short life, that spurs them to the sleep,<br>
<span class="tab">Eternally in tide like this to steep.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/50/mode/2up?q=cupidity">Bannerman</a> (1850), from Virgil]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh, blinded greediness! oh, foolish rage!<br>
<span class="tab">Which spur us so in the short world of life,<br>
<span class="tab">And then in death so drown us in despair!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blinded%20greediness%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity, O wrath insane,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠That spurs us onward so in our short life, <br>⁠
⁠<span class="tab">And in the eternal then so badly steeps us!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_12#:~:text=O%20blind%20cupidity,badly%20steeps%20us!">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind covetousness! O foolish wrath! that dost so spur us in our short life, and afterward in the life eternal dost in such evil wise steep us!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924060237603/page/n155/mode/2up?q=%22blind+covetousness%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity, O foolish ire,<br>
<span class="tab">Which spurs us on so in our life's short day, <br>
<span class="tab">And soaks us till Eternity expire!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh blind cupidity, both guilty and mad, that so spurs us in the brief life, and then, in the eternal, steeps us so ill!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.XII:~:text=Oh%20blind%20cupidity%2C%20both%20guilty%20and%20mad%2C%20that%20so%20spurs%20us%20in%20the%20brief%20life%2C%20and%20then%2C%20in%20the%20eternal%2C%20steeps%20us%20so%20ill!">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O sightless greed! O foolish wrath! that dost in our short life, so goad us; and after, in the life that hath no end, dost sink us in such evil plight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n74/mode/2up?q=%22sightless+greed%22">Sullivan</a> (1893), from Virgil]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh, blind cupidity! Oh, senseless anger, <br>
<span class="tab">Which in the brief life spurs us on so hotly. <br>
<span class="tab">And in the eternal then so sadly dips us !<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n88/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind covetousness and foolish anger, which in the brief life so goad us on and then, in the eternal, steep us in such misery!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blind%20covetousness%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind greed and mad anger, all astray<br>
<span class="tab">That in the short life goad us onward so, <br>
<span class="tab">And in the eternal with such plungings pay!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22blind+greed%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind, O rash and wicked lust of spoil,<br>
<span class="tab">That drives our short life with so keen a goad <br>
<span class="tab">And steeps our life eternal in such broil!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.247916/page/n145/mode/2up?q=%22wicked+lust%22">Sayers</a> (1949)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Oh blind!<br>
Oh ignorant, self-seeking cupidity<br>
<span class="tab">which spurs us so in the short mortal life<br>
<span class="tab">and steeps us so through all eternity!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/112/mode/2up?q=%22oh+ignorant%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity and mad rage,  which in the brief life so goad us on, and then, in the eternal, steep us so bitterly!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n131/mode/2up?q=cupidity">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity and insane wrath,<br>
<span class="tab">spurring us on through our short life on earth<br>
<span class="tab">to steep us then forever in such misery!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/98/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Musa</a> (1971)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity and insane anger, <br>
<span class="tab">which goad us on so much in our short life, <br>
<span class="tab">then steep us in such grief eternally!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity and senseless anger, <br>
<span class="tab">Which so goads us in our short life here <br>
<span class="tab">And, in the eternal life, drenches us miserably!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">O blind desire<br>
Of covetousness, O anger gone insane --<br>
<span class="tab">That goad us on through life, which is so brief,<br>
<span class="tab">to steep in eternal woe when life is done.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22o+blind+desire%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh blind cupidity and mad rage, that so spur us in this short life, and then in the eternal one cook us so evilly!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/184/mode/2up?q=%22blind+cupidity%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind desires, evil and foolish, which so goad us in our brief life, and then, in the eternal one, ruin us so bitterly!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf8to14.php#anchor_Toc64091783:~:text=blind%20desires%2C%20evil%20and%20foolish%2C%20which%20so%20goad%20us%20in%20our%20brief%20life%2C%20and%20then%2C%20in%20the%20eternal%20one%2C%20ruin%20us%20so%20bitterly!">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind cupidity, that brew of bile<br>
<span class="tab">and foolishness, which bubbles our brief lives,<br>
<span class="tab">before it steeps us in eternal gall!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22blind%20cupidity%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What blind cupidity, what crazy rage <br>
<span class="tab">impels us onwards in our little lives --<br>
<span class="tab">then dunks us in this stew to all eternity!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernovolume1of0000dant/page/52/mode/2up?q=cupidity">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O blind covetousness, insensate wrath,<br>
<span class="tab">which in this brief life goad us on and then,<br>
<span class="tab">in the eternal, steep us in such misery!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=12&INP_START=49&INP_LEN=3">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O greedy blindness and rage, insane and senseless,<br>
<span class="tab">Spurring us on in this, our so short life,<br>
<span class="tab">Then immolating us forever and ever!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22greedy%20blindness%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Fleming, Ian -- From Russia with Love, Part 2, ch. 11 (1957)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make bored.</p>
<br><b>Ian Fleming</b> (1908-1964) British writer, journalist, intelligence officer<br><i>From Russia with Love</i>, Part 2, ch. 11 (1957) 
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A "curious bastard quotation" (variant of a phrase <a href="https://wist.info/euripides/38254/">attributed to Euripides</a>) that crosses Bond's mind when wondering if ennui is driving him to tank his own career.						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto 20, l.  25ff (20.25-30) (1309) [tr. Johnston (1867)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surely I wept, leaning upon a ledge Of the rough rock, so that my escort said, &#8220;Art thou then weak and foolish like the rest? Here lives true piety when pity dies. But who more wicked than the man who yields To sorrow place where judgment is divine!&#8221; [Certo io piangea, poggiato a un de’ [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely I wept, leaning upon a ledge<br />
<span class="tab">Of the rough rock, so that my escort said,<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Art thou then weak and foolish like the rest?<br />
Here lives true piety when pity dies.<br />
<span class="tab">But who more wicked than the man who yields<br />
<span class="tab">To sorrow place where judgment is divine!&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Certo io piangea, poggiato a un de’ rocchi<br />
<span class="tab">del duro scoglio, sì che la mia scorta<br />
<span class="tab">mi disse: &#8220;Ancor se&#8217; tu de li altri sciocchi?<br />
Qui vive la pietà quand’è ben morta;<br />
<span class="tab">chi è più scellerato che colui<br />
<span class="tab">che al giudicio divin passion comporta?]</span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto 20, l.  25ff (20.25-30) (1309) [tr. Johnston (1867)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22surely%20i%20wept%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Virgil chides Dante for weeping over the fate of the damned in the third circle, fourth bolgia, who themselves are also weeping. <br><br> 

Maybe. There are a lot of scholarly debates over some of the wording and pronoun references here. Some translators play off the word <i>pietà</i> meaning both "pity" and "piety" in Italian. It's also possible that, rather than the final lines condemning Dante for letting his compassion defy an acceptance of God's judgment, they refer to the sinful arrogance of fortune-tellers (the group being punished here) in believing they can question or change God's decrees for the future. <br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_XX#:~:text=Certo%20io%20piangea,divin%20passion%20comporta%3F">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Leaning against the rock, I so great grief<br>
Express'd, that thus my Guide to me apply'd;<br>
Are you among the weak to be arrang'd?<br>
When without life, 'tis here Compassion lives.<br>
Who can more wicked be estem'd than He<br>
Who thinks that the divine Decrees are wrong.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Leaning%20againft%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 22ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Their laboring reins the falling tear bedew'd, <br>
<span class="tab">Deep struck with sympathetic woe I stood,<br>
<span class="tab">'Till thus the Bard my slumb'ring reason woke: -- <br>
"Dar'st thou the sentence of thy God arraign; <br>
<span class="tab">Or with presumptuous tears his doom profane?<br>
<span class="tab">Say, can thy tears his righteous doom revoke?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/260/mode/2up?q=%22Their+laboring+reins%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 5]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Against a rock<br>
<span class="tab">I leant and wept, so that my guide exclaim’d:<br>
<span class="tab">“What, and art thou too witless as the rest?<br>
Here pity most doth show herself alive,<br>
<span class="tab">When she is dead. What guilt exceedeth his,<br>
<span class="tab">Who with Heaven’s judgment in his passion strives?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.20:~:text=Against%20a%20rock%0AI%20leant%20and%20wept%2C%20so%20that%20my%20guide%20exclaim%E2%80%99d%3A%0A%E2%80%9CWhat%2C%20and%20art%20thou%20too%20witless%20as%20the%20rest%3F%0AHere%20pity%20most%20doth%20show%20herself%20alive%2C%0AWhen%20she%20is%20dead.%20What%20guilt%20exceedeth%20his%2C%0AWho%20with%20Heaven%E2%80%99s%20judgment%20in%20his%20passion%20strives%3F">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Certes I wept so, leaning toward a breast <br>
Of that hard shelf, mine escort chiding said: <br>
"Why wilt thou yet be foolish as the rest?<br>
Here pity best hath life when wholly dead: <br>
<span class="tab">What guiltier wretch than he whose grief avowed <br>
Impugns Almighty Judgment?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n264/mode/2up?q=%22certes+I+wept%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Certainly I wept, leaning on one of the rocks of the hard cliff, so that my Escort said to me: "Art thou, too, like the other fools?<br>
<span class="tab">"Here pity lives when it is altogether dead. Who more impious than he that sorrows at God's judgment?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22certainly%20i%20wept%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sore I lamented, leaning on a rock,<br>
<span class="tab">A rough-planed crag, until my guide addressed <br>
<span class="tab">The words -- "Are you, too, foolish like the rest?<br>
Here Pity is alive, e'en when quite dead.<br>
<span class="tab">And what can be more wicked than the man<br>
<span class="tab">Who 'gainst heaven's justice in his passion ran.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22sore+I+lamented%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly I wept, leaning upon a peak<br> ⁠
<span class="tab">⁠Of the hard crag, so that my Escort said<br>
<span class="tab">⁠To me: "Art thou, too, of the other fools?<br>
Here pity lives when it is wholly dead;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Who is a greater reprobate than he<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Who feels compassion at the doom divine?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_20#:~:text=Truly%20I%20wept,the%20doom%20divine%3F">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of a truth I began to weep leaning against one of the rocks of the hard cliff, so that my Escort said to me: "Art thou yet among the other foolish ones? Here pity lives when it is right dead. Who is more wicked than he who brings passion to the judgement of God?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924060237603/page/n255/mode/2up?q=%22Of+a+truth+I%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Surely I wept, supported on a rise<br>
<span class="tab">Of that fire-hardened rock, so that my guide<br>
<span class="tab">Said to me: "Thou too 'mongst the little wise?<br>
Here Pity lives alone, when it hath died.<br>
<span class="tab">Who is the greater scelerate than he<br>
<span class="tab">Who lets his passion 'gainst God's judgment bide?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/74/mode/2up?q=%22surely+i+wept%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly I wept, leaning on one of the rocks of the hard crag, so that my Guide said to me, “Art thou also one of the fools? Here pity liveth when it is quite dead. Who is more wicked than he who feels compassion at the Divine Judgment?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.XX:~:text=Truly%20I%20wept,the%20Divine%20Judgment%3F">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wept indeed, leaning against a rock on the stony ridge, so overcome, that my Guide said to me: "Art thou too like the other fools? Here pity liveth but when it is truly dead. Who is more lost to righteousness than he whose pity is awakened at the decree of God?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n114/mode/2up?q=%22i+wept+indeed%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Certain, I wept, supported on a comer<br> 
<span class="tab">Of the hard spur, so freely that my escort <br>
<span class="tab">Said to me : "Art thou still among the simple?<br>
Here piety lives when wholly dead is pity. <br>
<span class="tab">Who is than he more desperately wicked <br>
<span class="tab">Who to the doom divine doth bring compassion?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n140/mode/2up?q=%22certain+i+wept%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wept indeed, leaning on one of the rocks of the rugged ridge, so that my Escort said to me: "Art thou too as witless as the rest? Here pity lives when it is quite dead. Who is more guilty than he that makes the divine counsel subject to his will?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_of_Dante_Alighieri/c8ZKnRirTNUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20wept%20indeed%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly I wept, leant up against the breast <br>
<span class="tab">Of the hard granite, so that my Guide said: <br>
<span class="tab">"Art thou then still so foolish, like the rest?<br>
Here pity lives when it is rightly dead. <br>
<span class="tab">What more impiety can he avow <br>
<span class="tab">Whose heart rebelleth at God's judgment dread?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22truly+i+wept%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly I wept, leaned on the pinnacles<br>
<span class="tab">Of the hard rock; until my guide said, "Why!<br>
<span class="tab">And art thou too like all the other fools?<br>
Here pity, or here piety, must die<br>
<span class="tab">If the other lives; who's wickeder than one<br>
<span class="tab">That's agonized by God's high equity?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/194/mode/2up?q=wept">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Certainly,<br>
I wept. I leaned agianst the jagged face<br>
<span class="tab">of a rock and wept so that my Guide said: "Still?<br>
<span class="tab">Still like the other fools? There is no place<br>
for pity here. Who is more arrogant<br>
<span class="tab">within his soul, who is more impious<br>
<span class="tab">than one who dares to sorrow at God's judgment?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/174/mode/2up?q=%22i+wept%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly I wept, leaning on one of the rocks of the hard crag, so that my guide said to me, “Are you even yet among the other fools? Here pity lives when it is altogether dead. Who is more impious than he who sorrows at God’s judgment?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n215/mode/2up?q=%22truly+i+wept%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Indeed I did weep, as I leaned my body <br>
<span class="tab">against a jut of rugged rock. My guide: <br>
<span class="tab">  "So you are still like all the other fools? <br>
In this place piety lives when pity is dead, <br>
<span class="tab">for who could be more wicked than that man <br>
<span class="tab">who tries to bend divine will to his own! <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/164/mode/2up?q=%22indeed+i+did+weep%22">Musa</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of course I wept, leaning against a rock<br>
<span class="tab">along that rugged ridge, so that my guide <br>
<span class="tab">told me: “Are you as foolish as the rest?<br>
Here pity only lives when it is dead: <br>
<span class="tab">for who can be more impious than he<br>
<span class="tab">who links God's judgment to passivity?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/178/mode/2up?q=%22of+course+i+wept%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I certainly wept, supported on one of the rocks <br>
<span class="tab">  Of the projecting stone, so that my escort <br>
<span class="tab">Said to me: "Are you too like the other fools?<br>
Here pity is alive when it is dead: <br>
<span class="tab">Who is more criminal than he who suffers <br>
<span class="tab">Because he does not like the divine judgement?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22i+certainly+wept%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Truly I wept,<br>
Leaning on an outcrop of that rocky site,<br>
<span class="tab">And my master spoke to me: "Do you suppose<br>
<span class="tab">You are above with the other fools even yet?<br>
Here, pity lives when it is dead to these.<br>
<span class="tab">Who could be more impious than one who'd dare<br>
<span class="tab">To sorrow at the judgment God decrees?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/158/mode/2up?q=%22leaning+on+an+outcrop%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Surely I wept, leaning on one of the rocks of the hard ridge, so that my guide said to me: “Are you still one of the other fools?<br>
<span class="tab">Here pity lives when it is quite dead: who is more wicked than one who brings passion to God’s judgment?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/304/mode/2up?q=%22surely+i+wept%22">Durling</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Truly, I wept, leaning against one of the rocks of the solid cliff, so that my guide said to me: "Are you like other fools, as well? Pity is alive here, where it is best forgotten. Who is more impious than one who bears compassion for God’s judgement?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf15to21.php#anchor_Toc64094718:~:text=Truly%2C%20I%20wept%2C%20leaning%20against%20one%20of%20the%20rocks%20of%20the%20solid%20cliff%2C%20so%20that%20my%20guide%20said%20to%20me%3A%20%E2%80%98Are%20you%20like%20other%20fools%2C%20as%20well%3F%20Pity%20is%20alive%20here%2C%20where%20it%20is%20best%20forgotten.%20Who%20is%20more%20impious%20than%20one%20who%20bears%20compassion%20for%20God%E2%80%99s%20judgement%3F%E2%80%99">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of this, be sure: that, leaning on a spur<br>
<span class="tab">of that unyielding cliff, I wept. "Are you,"<br>
<span class="tab">my escort said, "like them, an idiot still?<br>
Here pity lives where pity's truth is dead.<br>
<span class="tab">Who is more impious, more scarred with sin<br>
<span class="tab">than one who pleads compassion at God's throne?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/86/mode/2up?q=wept">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yes, I wept, leaning against a spur<br>
<span class="tab">of the rough crag, so that my escort said:<br>
<span class="tab">"Are you still witless as the rest?<br>
Here piety lives when pity is quite dead.<br>
<span class="tab">Who is more impious than one who thinks<br>
<span class="tab">that God shows passion in His judgment?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=20&INP_START=25&INP_LEN=6">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O yes, I wept, leaning for support on one<br>
<span class="tab">Of the solid rocks in the reef, making my guide<br>
<span class="tab">Say this: "You're still one of the stupid ones?<br>
Down here, the only living pity is dead.<br>
<span class="tab">Is anyone more wicked than the man<br>
<span class="tab">Regretting the righteous judgment decreed by God?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22o%20yes%20i%20wept%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wept indeed, held up in my surprise<br>
By one rock of the ridge. My Escort said:<br>
"You're witless as the rest? Here pity dwells,<br>
But only when it's absolutely dead.<br>
Who is more guilty than he who by spells<br>
And mysteries makes it seem as if divine<br>
Judgment were subject to his will?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22i+wept+indeed%22">James</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto 14, l.  16ff (14.16-18) (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 13ff]</title>
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<p>O endless wrath of God: how utterly<br />
<span class="tab">thou shouldst become a terror to all men<br />
<span class="tab">who read the frightful truths revealed to me!</p>
<p><em>[O vendetta di Dio, quanto tu dei<br />
<span class="tab">esser temuta da ciascun che legge<br />
<span class="tab">ciò che fu manifesto a li occhi mei!]</span></span></em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto 14, l.  16ff (14.16-18) (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 13ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22endless+wrath%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On entering the Seventh Circle, third ring, and seeing flames drifting down from the sky, landing on the damned trapped there (blasphemers, sodomites, usurers).<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_XIV#:~:text=O%20vendetta%20di%20Dio%2C%20quanto%20tu%20dei%0Aesser%20temuta%20da%20ciascun%20che%20legge%0Aci%C3%B2%20che%20fu%20manifesto%20a%20li%20occhi%20mei!">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>O Vengeance dire of God, how much you should<br>
<span class="tab">By ev'ry one be dreaded, when he reads<br>
<span class="tab">What to my eyes was manifestly shewn!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22vengeance%20dire.%22">Rogers</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vengeance of Heav'n! I saw thy hand severe<br>
<span class="tab">(Your doom! ye Atheists and Blasphemers, hear!)<br>
<span class="tab">O'er many a naked soul the scourge display!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22Vengeance+of+Heav%27n%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 4] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vengeance of Heav’n! Oh! how shouldst thou be fear’d<br>
By all, who read what here my eyes beheld!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.14:~:text=Vengeance%20of%20Heav%E2%80%99n!%20Oh!%20how%20shouldst%20thou%20be%20fear%E2%80%99d%0ABy%20all%2C%20who%20read%20what%20here%20my%20eyes%20beheld!">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of the Eternal! how ought they <br>
<span class="tab">Who read the tale, thy workings mark with awe, <br>
<span class="tab">In that my troubled eyes did here survey!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n94/mode/2up?q=%22O+vengeance+of+the+Eternal%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God! how shouldst thou be feared by every one who reads what was revealed to my eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22vengeance%20of%20God%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Avenging power of God! how should each fear,<br>
<span class="tab">Who reads of this, arresting with surprise,<br>
<span class="tab">The sight which manfestly met mine eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22avenging+power%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh, God's great vengeance! with what heavy dread<br>
<span class="tab">Thou should'st be fear'd by ev'ry one who reads<br>
<span class="tab">What to mine eyes so manifest was made!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22great%20vengeance%22">Johnston</a> (1867), l. 16ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vengeance of God, O how much oughtest thou<br>
<span class="tab">By each one to be dreaded, who doth read<br>
<span class="tab">That which was manifest unto mine eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_14#:~:text=Vengeance%20of%20God,unto%20mine%20eyes!">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how oughtest thou to be feared by each one who reads that which was manifested to my eyes! <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22O+vengeance+of+God%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of great God! with what a fear <br>
<span class="tab">Thou shouldst be held by all who read in awe <br>
<span class="tab">That which before my eyes was visibly clear! <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+great+god%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how much thou oughtest to be feared by every one who readeth that which was manifest unto mine eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.XIV:~:text=O%20vengeance%20of%20God%2C%20how%20much%20thou%20oughtest%20to%20be%20feared%20by%20every%20one%20who%20readeth%20that%20which%20was%20manifest%20unto%20mine%20eyes!">Norton</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Vengeance of God, how mightily shouldst thou be feared by all who read that which was given mine eyes to look upon!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n84/mode/2up?q=%22Vengeance+of+God%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vengeance of God! In what great fear and trembling<br>
<span class="tab">Should'st thou be held by each who reads the story <br>
<span class="tab">Of that which to my eyes was manifested. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n100/mode/2up?q=%22Vengeance+of+God%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how must thou be feared by everyone who reads what was plain before my eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_of_Dante_Alighieri/c8ZKnRirTNUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22vengeance%20of%20god%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O chastisement of God, how oughtest thou<br>
<span class="tab">To be of each one feared who reads with awe<br>
<span class="tab">What to my eyes was manifested now.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/74/mode/2up?q=%22chastisement+of+God%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fearful indeed art thou, vengeance of God!<br>
<span class="tab">He that now reads what mine own eyes with awe<br>
<span class="tab">Plainly beheld, well may he dread thy rod!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+god%22">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how much should you be feared by all who read what was revealed to my eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n151/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+god%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O just revenge of God! how awesomely<br>
<span class="tab">you should be feared by everyone who reads<br>
<span class="tab">these truths that were revealed to my own eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/114/mode/2up?q=%22just+revenge%22">Musa</a> (1971)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of the Lord, how you should be<br>
<span class="tab">dreaded by everyone who now can read<br>
<span class="tab">whatever was made manifest to me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+the+lord%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how much you ought<br>
<span class="tab">To be feared by everyone who reads<br>
<span class="tab">What was there manifested to my eyes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+god%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab">O vengeance of God, how much<br>
Should you be feared by all of those who read<br>
What my eyes saw!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+God%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how much must you be feared by everyone who reads what was made manifest to my eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/218/mode/2up?q=%22vengeance+of+God%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O God’s vengeance, how what was shown to my sight should be feared, by all who read!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf8to14.php#anchor_Toc64091790:~:text=O%20God%E2%80%99s%20vengeance%2C%20how%20what%20was%20shown%20to%20my%20sight%20should%20be%20feared%2C%20by%20all%20who%20read!">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Great God! Your vengeance must be rightly feared<br>
<span class="tab">by all who read the verses I compose<br>
<span class="tab">to say what there was straight before my eyes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22great+god%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O vengeance of God, how much<br>
<span class="tab">should you be feared by all who read<br>
<span class="tab">what now I saw revealed before my eyes!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=14&INP_START=16&INP_LEN=3">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But O God's awful vengeance! Reading this,<br>
<span class="tab">You all should tremble with fear for what my eyes<br>
<span class="tab">Were shown, dark and terrible, a burning brilliance!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22awful%20vengeance%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Holy Vengeance, how you must<br>
Be feared by all who read what now I saw!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22holy+vengeance%22">James</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto  7, l.  19ff (7.19-21) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, God&#8217;s avenging justice! who could heap up suffering and pain as strange as I saw here? How can we let our guilt bring us to this? [Ahi giustizia di Dio! tante chi stipa nove travaglie e pene quant’io viddi? e perché nostra colpa sì ne scipa?] (Source (Italian)). Alternate translations: Great is God&#8217;s Justice; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, God&#8217;s avenging justice! who could heap up<br />
suffering and pain as strange as I saw here?<br />
How can we let our guilt bring us to this?</p>
<p><em>[Ahi giustizia di Dio! tante chi stipa<br />
nove travaglie e pene quant’io viddi?<br />
e perché nostra colpa sì ne scipa?]</em></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  7, l.  19ff (7.19-21) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22avenging+justice%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_VII#:~:text=Ahi%20giustizia%20di%20Dio!%20tante%20chi%20stipa%0Anove%20travaglie%20e%20pene%20quant%E2%80%99io%20viddi%3F%0Ae%20perch%C3%A9%20nostra%20colpa%20s%C3%AC%20ne%20scipa%3F">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Great is God's Justice; as increase with Crimes<br>
Their Punishments, which here I many saw:<br>
But why do we encourage this increase?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Great%20is%20God%27s%22">Rogers</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of Heav'n, from thine avenging hand<br>
What nameless toils and tortures fill the strand!<br>
Ah! why on mortal failings so severe!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22Juflice+of+Hcav*n%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 4] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Almighty Justice! in what store thou heap’st<br>
New pains, new troubles, as I here beheld!<br>
Wherefore doth fault of ours bring us to this?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.7:~:text=Almighty%20Justice!%20in%20what%20store%20thou%20heap%E2%80%99st%0ANew%20pains%2C%20new%20troubles%2C%20as%20I%20here%20beheld!%0AWherefore%20doth%20fault%20of%20ours%20bring%20us%20to%20this%3F">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! who might such travail heap, <br>
Such unimagined pangs as there I saw? <br>
And wherefore drains our guilt the cup so deep?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n50/mode/2up?q=%22Justice+of+God%21%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, Justice Divine! who shall tell in few the many fresh pains and travails that I saw? and why does guilt of ours thus waste us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Ah,%20Justice%20Divine!%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah! justice of our God! how it heaps up<br>
New troubles and new punishments I saw,<br>
And fault of ours such penalty to draw!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22justice+of+our+God%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh, God's great justice! who heaps up the mass<br>
Of pains and labors new which meet mine eye?<br>
Why does our crime so tear and torture us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22God%27s%20great%20justice%20who%20heaps%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God, ah! who heaps up so many<br>
New toils and sufferings as I beheld?<br>
And why doth our transgression waste us so?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_7#:~:text=Justice%20of%20God,waste%20us%20so%3F">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah justice of God! who crowds all the new labours and pains that I saw? and wherefore does our sin so bring us low?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22ah+justice+of+God%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! who heapeth up such store<br>
Of novel toils and pains which I have seen!<br>
And why doth sin in such profusion pour?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22ustice+of+God+%21+%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, Justice of God! Who heapeth up so many new travails and penalties as I saw? And why doth our sin so waste us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.VII:~:text=Ah%2C%20Justice%20of%20God!%20Who%20heapeth%20up%20so%20many%20new%20travails%20and%20penalties%20as%20I%20saw%3F%20And%20why%20doth%20our%20sin%20so%20waste%20us%3F">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah me! Justice of God, that heapeth up un-heard-of toils and tortures in numbers such as I beheld! And why doth man's transgression scourge man so?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n48/mode/2up?q=%22Justice+of+God%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! that it can pack together<br>
Such novel pains and travails as I witnessed! <br>
And why is our own fault thus our destruction?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n54/mode/2up?q=%22Justice+of+God%21%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, Justice of God, who crams together <br>
all the new toils and pains that I saw?<br>
And why does our sin so lay us waste?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_of_Dante_Alighieri/c8ZKnRirTNUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22justice%20of%20god%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah! Divine Justice! Who crowds throe on throe,<br>
Toil upon toil, such as mine eyes now met?<br>
And why doth guilt of ours consume us so?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22throe+on+throe%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God's justice! Who shall tell the agonies,<br>
Heaped thick and new before my shuddering glance?<br>
Why must our guilt smite us with strokes like this?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22tell+the+agonies%22">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Holy Justice,<br>
who could relate the agonies I saw!<br>
What guilt is man that he can come to this?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22o+holy+justice%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, justice of God! who crams together so many new travails and penalties as I saw? And why does our guilt so waste us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n81/mode/2up?q=%22crams+together%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! Who has amassed as many<br>
strange tortures and travails as I have seen?<br>
Why do we let our guilt consume us so?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22Justice+of+God%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! Who except you could gather<br>
As many pains and punishments as I saw?<br>
And why is it our faults must so devour us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22justice+of+god%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Justice of God! Who is it hat heaps together<br>
So much peculiar torture and travail?<br>
How is it that we choose to sin and wither?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22Justice+of+God%21%22">Pinsky</a> (1994), ll. 17-19]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, justice of God! who stuffs in so many strange <br>
travails and punishments as I saw? and why does<br>
our own guilt so destroy us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/112/mode/2up?q=%22justice+of+God%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Divine Justice! Who can tell the many new pains and troubles, that I saw, and why our guilt so destroys us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090934:~:text=O%20Divine%20Justice!%20Who%20can%20tell%20the%20many%20new%20pains%20and%20troubles%2C%20that%20I%20saw%2C%20and%20why%20our%20guilt%20so%20destroys%20us%3F">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>God in all justice! I saw there so many<br>
new forms of travail, so tightly crammed. By whom?<br>
How can our guilt so rend and ruin us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22god+in+all+justice%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, Justice of God, who heaps up<br>
such strange punishment and pain as I saw there?<br>
And why do our sins so waste us?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=7&INP_START=19&INP_LEN=3">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, God of Justice, Who does this, scraping<br>
Together the brand-new pains and punishments<br>
I saw? And why should sinning cause such wastage?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22who%20does%20this%22">Raffel</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Merciful God! Who gets it in,<br>
This wretched harvest? What accounts for it?<br>
And why to such pain are we led by sin?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22merciful+god%22">James</a> (2013), ll. 18-20]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 548ff (6.548-560) (29-19 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1981), l. 735ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now of a sudden Aeneas looked and saw To the left, under a cliff, wide buildings girt By a triple wall round which a torrent rushed With scorching flames and boulders tossed in thunder, The abyss&#8217;s Fiery River. A massive gate With adamantine pillars faced the stream, So strong no force of men or gods [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now of a sudden Aeneas looked and saw<br />
To the left, under a cliff, wide buildings girt<br />
By a triple wall round which a torrent rushed<br />
With scorching flames and boulders tossed in thunder,<br />
The abyss&#8217;s Fiery River. A massive gate<br />
With adamantine pillars faced the stream,<br />
So strong no force of men or gods in war<br />
May ever avail to crack and bring it down,<br />
And high in air an iron tower stands<br />
On which Tisiphone, her bloody robe<br />
Pulled up about her, has her seat and keeps<br />
Unsleeping watch over the entrance way<br />
By day and night. From the interior, groans<br />
Are heard, and thud of lashes, clanking iron,<br />
Dragging chains.</p>
<p><em>[Respicit Aeneas subito, et sub rupe sinistra<br />
moenia lata videt, triplici circumdata muro,<br />
quae rapidus flammis ambit torrentibus amnis,<br />
Tartareus Phlegethon, torquetque sonantia saxa.<br />
Porta adversa ingens, solidoque adamante columnae,<br />
vis ut nulla virum, non ipsi exscindere bello<br />
caelicolae valeant; stat ferrea turris ad auras,<br />
Tisiphoneque sedens, palla succincta cruenta,<br />
vestibulum exsomnis servat noctesque diesque,<br />
Hinc exaudiri gemitus, et saeva sonare<br />
verbera; tum stridor ferri, tractaeque catenae.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 548ff (6.548-560) (29-19 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1981), l. 735ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/178/mode/2up?q=tisiphone" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Tartarus, the Underworld place of punishment for the damned.<br><br> 

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D548#:~:text=Respicit%20Aeneas%20subito,tractaeque%20catenae.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">On his left side,<br>
Aeneas then under a Rock espide<br>
A mighty fort surrounded with three walls,<br>
Where Phlegeton with a swift current falls<br>
Of flaming waves: rowling huge stones along,<br>
The gates on adamatine pillars hung;<br>
No strength of men, of steel, nor gods, has power<br>
This to destroy, high stands the brazen towre.<br>
Girt in a bloody robe Tisiphone keeps<br>
The entrance night and day, and never sleeps.<br>
Hence cruel lashes sound and groaning pains,<br>
Clashing of steel, and ratling of huge chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=On%20his%20left,of%20huge%20chains.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>The hero, looking on the left, espied<br>
A lofty tow'r, and strong on ev'ry side<br>
With treble walls, which Phlegethon surrounds,<br>
Whose fiery flood the burning empire bounds;<br>
And, press'd betwixt the rocks, the bellowing noise resounds<br>
Wide is the fronting gate, and, rais'd on high<br>
With adamantine columns, threats the sky.<br>
Vain is the force of man, and Heav'n's as vain,<br>
To crush the pillars which the pile sustain.<br>
Sublime on these a tow'r of steel is rear'd;<br>
And dire Tisiphone there keeps the ward,<br>
Girt in her sanguine gown, by night and day,<br>
Observant of the souls that pass the downward way.<br>
From hence are heard the groans of ghosts, the pains<br>
Of sounding lashes and of dragging chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=The%20hero%2C%20looking,of%20dragging%20chains.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas on a sudden looks back, and under a rock on the left sees vast prisons enclosed with a triple wall, which Tartarean Phlegethon's rapid flood environs with torrents of flame, and whirls roaring rocks along. Fronting is a huge gate, with columns of solid adamant, that no strength of men, nor the gods themselves, can with steel demolish. An iron tower rises aloft; and there wakeful Tisiphone, with ehr bloody robe tucked up around her, sits to watch the vestibule both night and day. Hence groans are heard; the grating too of iron, and clank of dragging chains. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sudden%20looks%20back%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Sudden Æneas turns his eyes,<br>
When 'neath the left-hand cliff he spies<br>
The bastions of a broad stronghold,<br>
Engirt with walls of triple fold:<br>
Fierce Phlegethon surrounds the same,<br>
Foaming aloft with torrent flame,<br>
<span class="tab">And whirls his roaring rocks:<br>
In front a portal stands displayed,<br>
On adamantine columns stayed:<br>
Nor mortal nor immortal foe<br>
Those massy gates could overthrow<br>
<span class="tab">With battle's direst shocks.<br>
An iron tower of equal might<br>
<span class="tab">In air uprises steep:<br>
Tisiphone, in red robes dight,<br>
Sits on the threshold day and night<br>
<span class="tab">With eyes that know not sleep.<br>
Hark! from within there issue groans,<br>
<span class="tab">The cracking of the thong,<br>
The clank of iron o'er the stones<br>
<span class="tab">Dragged heavily along.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=Sudden%20%C3%86neas%20turns,Dragged%20heavily%20along.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then suddenly Aeneas, looking back,<br>
Beneath a cliff upon the left beholds<br>
A prison vast with triple ramparts girt,<br>
Bound which Tartarean Phlegethon, with surge<br>
Of foaming torrents, raves, and thundering whirl<br>
Of rocks. A gateway huge in front is seen, <br>
With columns of the solid adamant.<br>
No strength of man, or even of gods, avails<br>
Against it. Rising in the air a tower<br>
Of iron appears: there sits Tisiphone,<br>
Tucked in her blood-stained robes, and night and day<br>
Guarding the entrance with her sleepless eyes. <br>
Groans from within were heard; the cruel lash. <br>
Then clank of iron, and of dragging chains. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n205/mode/2up?q=%22then+suddenly%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 680ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas looks swiftly back, and sees beneath the cliff on the left hand a wide city, girt with a triple wall and encircled by a racing river of boiling flame, Tartarean Phlegethon, that echoes over its rolling rocks. In front is the gate, huge and pillared with solid adamant, that no warring force of men nor the very habitants of heaven may avail to overthrow; it stands up a tower of iron, and Tisiphone sitting girt in bloodstained pall keeps sleepless watch at the entry by night and day. Hence moans are heard and fierce lashes resound, with the clank of iron and dragging chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_SIXTH:~:text=Aeneas%20looks%20swiftly,and%20dragging%20chains.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But suddenly Æneas turned, and lo, a city lay<br>
Wide-spread 'neath crags upon the left, girt with a wall threefold;<br>
And round about in hurrying flood a flaming river rolled,<br>
E'en Phlegethon of Tartarus, with rattling, stony roar:<br>
In face with adamantine posts was wrought the mighty door,<br>
Such as no force of men nor might of heaven-abiders high<br>
May cleave with steel; an iron tower thence riseth to the sky:<br>
And there is set Tisiphone, with girded blood-stained gown,<br>
Who, sleepless, holdeth night and day the doorway of the town.<br>
Great wail and cruel sound of stripes that city sendeth out,<br>
And iron clanking therewithal of fetters dragged about.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=But%20suddenly%20%C3%86neas,fetters%20dragged%20about.">Morris</a> (1900), l. 548ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Back looked Æneas, and espied<br>
Broad bastions, girt with triple wall, that frowned<br>
Beneath a rock to leftward, and the tide<br>
Of torrent Phlegethon, that flamed around,<br>
And made the beaten rocks rebellow with the sound.<br>
In front, a massive gateway threats the sky,<br>
And posts of solid adamant upstay<br>
An iron tower, firm-planted to defy<br>
All force, divine or human. Night and day,<br>
Sleepless Tisiphone defends the way,<br>
Girt up with bloody garments. From within<br>
Loud groans are heard, and wailings of dismay,<br>
The whistling scourge, the fetter's clank and din,<br>
Shrieks, as of tortured fiends, and all the sounds of sin.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=Back%20looked%20%C3%86neas,sounds%20of%20sin.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 72-73; l. 644ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas straightway by the leftward cliff<br>
Beheld a spreading rampart, high begirt<br>
With triple wall, and circling round it ran<br>
A raging river of swift floods of flame,<br>
Infernal Phlegethon, which whirls along<br>
Loud-thundering rocks. A mighty gate is there<br>
Columned in adamant; no human power,<br>
Nor even the gods, against this gate prevail.<br>
Tall tower of steel it has; and seated there<br>
Tisiphone, in blood-flecked pall arrayed,<br>
Sleepless forever, guards the entering way.<br>
Hence groans are heard, fierce cracks of lash and scourge,<br>
Loud-clanking iron links and trailing chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D548#:~:text=Aeneas%20straightway%20by,and%20trailing%20chains.">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Suddenly Aeneas looks back, and under a cliff on the left sees a broad castle, girt with triple wall and encircled with a rushing flood of torrent flames -- Tartarean Phlegethon, that rolls along thundering rocks. In front stands the huge gate, and pillars of solid adamant, that no might of man, nay, not even the sons of heaven, may uproot in war; there stands the iron tower, soaring high, and Tisiphone, sitting girt with bloody pall, keeps sleepless watch o'er the portal night and day. Therefrom are heard groans and the sound of the savage lash; withal, the clank of iron and dragging of chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n551/mode/2up?q=%22Suddenly+Aeneas+looks+back%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As he looked back, Aeneas saw, to his left,<br>
Wide walls beneath a cliff, a triple rampart,<br>
A river running fire, Phlegethon’s torrent,<br>
Rocks roaring in its course, a gate, tremendous,<br>
Pillars of adamant, a tower of iron,<br>
Too strong for men, too strong for even gods<br>
To batter down in warfare, and behind them<br>
A Fury, sentinel in bloody garments,<br>
Always on watch, by day, by night. He heard<br>
Sobbing and groaning there, the crack of the lash,<br>
The clank of iron, the sound of dragging shackles.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=As%20he%20looked,of%20dragging%20shackles">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas looked back on a sudden: he saw to his left a cliff<br> 
Overhanging with a spread of battlements, a threefold wall about them,<br>
Girdled too by a swift-running stream, a flaming torrent --<br>
Hell's river of fire, whose current rolls clashing rocks along.<br>
In front, an enormous portal, the door-posts columns of adamant,<br>
So strong that no mortal violence nor even the heaven-dwellers<br>
Can broach it: an iron tower stands sheer and soaring above it,<br>
Whereupon Tisiphone sits, wrapped in a bloodstained robe,<br>
Sleeplessly, day-long, night-long, guarding the forecourt there.<br>
From within can be heard the sounds of groaning and brutal lashing,<br>
Sounds of clanking iron, of chains being dragged along.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/146/mode/2up?q=tisiphone">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas suddenly looks back; beneath<br>
a rock upon his left he sees a broad <br>
fortress encircled by a triple wall<br>
and girdled by a rapid flood of flames<br>
that rage: Tartarean Phlegethon whirling <br>
resounding rocks. A giant gateway stands<br>
in front, with solid adamantine pillars --<br>
no force of man, not even heaven's sons,<br>
enough to level these in war; a tower<br>
of iron rises in the air; there sits<br>
Tisiphone, who wears a bloody mantle.<br>
She guards the entrance, sleepless night and day.<br>
Both groans and savage scourgings echo there,<br>
and then the clang of iron and dragging chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/150/mode/2up?q=tisiphone">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 725ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas looked back suddenly and saw under a cliff on his left hand a broad city encircled by a triple wall and washed all round by Phlegethon, one of the rivers of Tartarus, a torrent of fire and flame, rolling and grinding great boulders in its current. There before him stood a huge gate with columns of solid adamant so strong that neither the violence of men nor the heavenly gods themselves could ever uproot them in war, and an iron tower rose into the air where Tisiphone sat with her blood-soaked dress girt up, guarding the entreance and never sleeping, night or day. They could hear the groands from the city, the cruel crack of the lash, the dragging and clanking of iron chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22looked+back+suddenly%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas suddenly looked back, and, below the left hand cliff,<br>
he saw wide battlements, surrounded by a triple wall,<br>
and encircled by a swift river of red-hot flames,<br>
the Tartarean Phlegethon, churning with echoing rocks.<br>
A gate fronts it, vast, with pillars of solid steel,<br>
that no human force, not the heavenly gods themselves,<br>
can overturn by war: an iron tower rises into the air,<br>
and seated before it, Tisiphone, clothed in a blood-wet dress,<br>
keeps guard of the doorway, sleeplessly, night and day.<br>
Groans came from there, and the cruel sound of the lash,<br>
then the clank of iron, and dragging chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242935:~:text=Aeneas%20suddenly%20looked,and%20dragging%20chains.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Aeneas<br>
suddenly glances back and beneath a cliff to the left<br>
he sees an enormous fortress ringed with triple walls<br>
and raging around it all, a blazing flood of lava,<br>
Tartarus’ River of Fire, whirling thunderous boulders.<br>
Before it rears a giant gate, its columns solid adamant,<br>
so no power of man, not even the gods themselves<br>
can root it out in war. An iron tower looms on high<br>
where Tisiphone, crouching with bloody shroud girt up,<br>
never sleeping, keeps her watch at the entrance night and day.<br>
Groans resound from the depths, the savage crack of the lash,<br>
the grating creak of iron, the clank of dragging chains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22suddenly%20glances%22">Fagles</a> (2006), l. 637ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aeneas stole a quick glance back. To the left, under a cliff, was a massive fortress ringed with triple walls and a raging moat of fire: Phlegethon, hurling thunderous rocks. In front, a giant gate and adamantine pillars. No human force, not even warring gods, could rip them out. An iron tower reached the sky. There Tisiphone crouched wakefully, her bloody cloak hitched high. She watched the entrance day and night. You could hear groans and savage lash-strokes, irons clanking, chains being dragged. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22quick%20glance%20back%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  6, l. 625ff (6.625-627) [The Sybil] (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 724ff]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not if I had a hundred tongues and a hundred mouths<br />
and a voice of iron too &#8212; I could never capture<br />
all the crimes or run through all the torments,<br />
doom by doom.</p>
<p><em>[Non, mihi si linguae centum sunt oraque centum<br />
Ferrea vox, omnis scelerum comprendere formas,<br />
Omnia poenarum percurrere nomina possim.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  6, l. 625ff (6.625-627) [The Sybil] (29-19 BC) [tr. Fagles (2006), l. 724ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The punishments in Tartarus. Virgil uses a similar metaphor in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%20a%20hundred%20mouths%22"><em>Georgics</em> 2.43</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D576#:~:text=Non%2C%20mihi%20si%20linguae%20centum%20sint%20oraque%20centum%2C%0Aferrea%20vox%2C%20omnis%20scelerum%20comprendere%20formas%2C%0Aomnia%20poenarum%20percurrere%20nomina%20possim.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Had I a hundred mouths, as many tongues,<br>
A voice of iron, to these had brazen lungs;<br>
Their crimes and tortures ne're could be displaid.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.6?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Had%20I%20a,could%20be%20displaid.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Had I a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
And throats of brass, inspired with iron lungs,<br>
I could not half those horrid crimes repeat,<br>
Nor half the punishments those crimes have met.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_VI#:~:text=Had%20I%20a%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20a%20hundred%20tongues%2C%0AAnd%20throats%20of%20brass%2C%20inspir%27d%20with%20iron%20lungs%2C%0AI%20could%20not%20half%20those%20horrid%20crimes%20repeat%2C%0ANor%20half%20the%20punishments%20those%20crimes%20have%20met.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Had I a hundred tongues, and a hundred mouths, and a voice of iron, I could not comprehend all the species of their crimes, nor enumerate the names of all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%20and%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No -- had I e'en a hundred tongues<br>
A hundred mouths, and iron lungs,<br>
Those types of guilt I could not show,<br>
Nor tell the forms of penal woe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_6#:~:text=No%E2%80%94had%20I%20e%27en%20a%20hundred%20tongues%0AA%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20and%20iron%20lungs%2C%0AThose%20types%20of%20guilt%20I%20could%20not%20show%2C%0ANor%20tell%20the%20forms%20of%20penal%20woe.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred tongues, a voice<br>
Of iron, could I tell thee all the forms <br>
Of guilt, or number all their penalties.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n207/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 780ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not had I an hundred tongues, an hundred mouths, and a voice of iron, could I sum up all the shapes of crime or name over all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_SIXTH:~:text=Not%20had%20I%20an%20hundred%20tongues%2C%20an%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20and%20a%20voice%20of%20iron%2C%20could%20I%20sum%20up%20all%20the%20shapes%20of%20crime%20or%20name%20over%20all%20their%20punishments.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor, had I now an hundred mouths, an hundred tongues at need,<br>
An iron voice, might I tell o'er all guise of evil deed,<br>
Or run adown the names of woe those evil deeds are worth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=Nor%2C%20had%20I,deeds%20are%20worth.">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ne'er had a hundred mouths, if such were mine,<br>
Nor hundred tongues their endless sins declared,<br>
Nor iron voice their torments could define,<br>
Or tell what doom to each the avenging gods assign.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#book6line559:~:text=Ne%27er%20had%20a,avenging%20gods%20assign.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 83, l. 744ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I could not tell,<br>
Not with a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
Or iron voice, their divers shapes of sin,<br>
Nor call by name the myriad pangs they bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D6%3Acard%3D576#:~:text=I%20could%20not%20tell%2C%0ANot%20with%20a%20hundred%20mouths%2C%20a%20hundred%20tongues%2C%0AOr%20iron%20voice%2C%20their%20divers%20shapes%20of%20sin%2C%0ANor%20call%20by%20name%20the%20myriad%20pangs%20they%20bear.">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, had I a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths, and voice of iron, I could not sum up all the forms of crime, or rehearse all the tale of torments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n555/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I had a hundred tongues,<br>
A hundred iron throats, I could not tell<br>
The fullness of their crime and punishment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_VI:~:text=If%20I%20had%20a,their%20crime%20and%20punishment.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, not if I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths<br>
And a voice of iron, could I describe all the shapes of wickedness,<br>
Catalogue all the retributions inflicted here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A hundred tongues,<br>
a hundred mouths, an iron voice were not<br>
enough for me to gather all the forms<br>
of crime or tell the names of all the torments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 829ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">If I had<br>
A hundred tongues, a hundred mouths, a voice<br>
Of iron, I could not tell of all the shapes<br>
Their crimes had taken, or their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/180/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths and a voice of iron, I could not encompass all their different crimes or speak the names of all their different punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22hundred+tongues%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred tongues, a hundred mouths,<br>
a voice of iron, could I tell all the forms of wickedness<br>
or spell out the names of every torment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidVI.php#anchor_Toc2242935:~:text=Not%20if%20I,of%20every%20torment.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not if I had a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues,<br>
And a voice of iron, could I recount<br>
All the crimes or tell all their punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/y8pgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A hundred tongues and mouths, an iron voice, wouldn't let me cover the varieties of evil, nor all the names for punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22hundred%20tongues%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto  3, l.  82ff (3.82-87) [Charon] (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 79ff]</title>
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<p>There, steering toward us in an ancient ferry<br />
<span class="tab">came an old man with a white bush of hair,<br />
<span class="tab">bellowing: &#8220;Woe to you depraved souls! Bury<br />
here and forever all hope of Paradise:<br />
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br />
<span class="tab">into eternal dark, into fire and ice.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Ed ecco verso noi venir per nave<br />
<span class="tab">un vecchio, bianco per antico pelo,<br />
<span class="tab">gridando: &#8220;Guai a voi, anime prave!<br />
Non isperate mai veder lo cielo:<br />
<span class="tab">i’ vegno per menarvi a l’altra riva<br />
<span class="tab">ne le tenebre etterne, in caldo e ’n gelo.]</span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.  82ff (3.82-87) [Charon] (1309) [tr. Ciardi (1954), l. 79ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22steering+toward+us%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_III#:~:text=Ed%20ecco%20verso,e%20%E2%80%99n%20gelo.">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Lo, rowing tow'rds us was one white with age,<br>
And bawling out, "woe do you Souls deprav'd,<br>
<span class="tab">Heaven expects you not e'er more to see;<br>
<span class="tab">I come to waft you to another coast,<br>
<span class="tab">Where are eternal Darkness, Heat, and Frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lo%20rowing%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 68ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Far off exclaim'd the grizzly mariner,<br>
"Hither, ye Denizens of Hell, repair!<br>
<span class="tab">The Stygian barque her wonted load requires;<br>
For you diurnal stars beignant beam,<br>
Prepare ye now to feel the fierce extreme<br>
<span class="tab">Of frost corrosive, and outrageous fire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22grizzly+mariner%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 19] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! toward us in a bark<br>
Comes on an old man hoary white with eld,<br>
Crying, "Woe to you wicked spirits! hope not<br>
Ever to see the sky again.  I come<br>
To take you to the other shore across,<br>
Into eternal darkness, there to dwell<br>
In fierce heat and in ice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#link3:~:text=And%20lo!%20toward,and%20in%20ice.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">When lo! to meet us came<br>
<span class="tab">An ancient boatman, hoar with many a year. <br>
<span class="tab">Crying, "Woe to you, souls of evil name!<br>
Ne'er hope to see the bright celestial sphere: <br>
<span class="tab">I come to waft you to another shore, <br>
<span class="tab">Where, cold or heat, still endless night is near.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22meet+us+came%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">And lo! an old man, white with ancient hair, comes towards us in a bark, shouting, "Woe to you, depraved spirits!<br>
<span class="tab">hope not ever to see Heaven: I come to lead you to the other shore; into the eternal darkness; into fire and into ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22an%20old%20man%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us came one in a bark,<br>
Whose head with hoar antiquity was white,<br>
Cried, "Wow! Ye wicked souls, no more for heaven,<br>
I come to lead you to yon other hold --<br>
Darkness eternal, and to hot and cold!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22one+in+a+bark%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us in a bark approach'd<br>
<span class="tab">An aged man and white with hoary hair<br>
<span class="tab">Crying -- "Woe, woe to you, ye wicked souls!<br>
Hope not that you can ever Heaven behold;<br>
<span class="tab">I come to guide you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">To night eternal, endless cold and heat.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22and%20lo%20towards%20us%22">Johnston</a> (1867), l. 92ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us coming in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An old man, hoary with the hair of eld,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying: "Woe unto you, ye souls depraved!<br>
Hope nevermore to look upon the heavens; ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">To the eternal shades in heat and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_3#:~:text=And%20lo!%20towards,heat%20and%20frost.">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And behold came towards us in a boat an old man white by reason of ancient hair, crying, ‘Woe to you, perverse souls! Hope not again to see the sky; I come to bring you to the other bank, among the eternal gloom, to heat and to cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22behold+came+towards%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When lo! upon a bark there towards us came <br>
<span class="tab">A very old man, with age-whitened hair. <br>
<span class="tab">Crying aloud, "Ah, woe, ye souls of shame!<br>
Hope not again to see the sky so fair. <br>
<span class="tab">I come to take ye to the other side. <br>
<span class="tab">To shades eterne of heat and freezing there."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22upon+a+bark%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! coming toward us in a boat, an old man, white with ancient hair, crying, “Woe to you, wicked souls! hope not ever to see Heaven! I come to carry you to the other bank, into eternal darkness, to heat and frost.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.III:~:text=And%20lo!%20coming%20toward%20us%20in%20a%20boat%2C%20an%20old%20man%2C%20white%20with%20ancient%20hair%2C%20crying%2C%20%E2%80%9CWoe%20to%20you%2C%20wicked%20souls!%20hope%20not%20ever%20to%20see%20Heaven!%20I%20come%20to%20carry%20you%20to%20the%20other%20bank%2C%20into%20eternal%20darkness%2C%20to%20heat%20and%20frost.">Norton</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! an old man, hoary with ancient locks, draweth towards us in a boat, crying out: "Curse on you, sinful souls! Never hope to see the sky! I am coming to ferry you to the other shore, into the darkness that is for ever, into flame and into frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n28/mode/2up?q=%22hoary+with+ancient%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo! towards us coming in a vessel<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">An old man, whom his ancient locks made hoary,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying out : "Woe to you, ye souls unrighteous; <br>
Cherish not hope of ever seeing heaven; <br>
<span class="tab">Unto the other bank I come to take you, <br>
<span class="tab">To heat and frost, in the eternal darkness."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n30/mode/2up?q=%22towards+us+coming%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And lo, coming towards us in a boat, an old man, his hair white with age, crying: "Woe to you, wicked souls, hope not ever to see the sky. I am come to bring you to the other bank, into the eternal shades, into fire and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22coming%20towards%20us%20in%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And toward us lo! arriving in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An Ancient, white with hair upon him old,<br>
<span class="tab">Crying, "Woe to you, ye spirits misbegot!<br>
Hope not that heaven ye ever shall behold.<br>
<span class="tab">I come to carry you to yon shore, and lead<br>
<span class="tab">Into the eternal darkness, heat and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22white+with+hair%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">When from the far bank lo!<br>
<span class="tab">A boat shot forth, whose white-haired boatman old<br>
<span class="tab">Bawled as he came: "Woe to the wicked! Woe!<br>
Never you hope to look on Heaven -- behold!<br>
<span class="tab">I come to ferry you hence across the tide<br>
<span class="tab">To endless night, fierce fires and shramming cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22boat+shot+forth%22">Sayers</a> (1949)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And behold, an old man, his hair white with age, coming towards us in a boat and shouting, "Woe to you, wicked souls! Do not hope to see Heaven ever! I come to carry you to the other shore, into eternal darkness, into fire and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n41/mode/2up?q=%22behold+an+old+man%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And suddenly, coming towards us in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">a man of years who ancient hair was white<br>
<span class="tab">screamed at us, "Woe to you, perverted souls!<br>
Give up all hope of every seeing heaven:<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal darkness, ice and fire."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22suddenly+coming%22">Musa</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And here, advancing toward us, in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">an aged man -- his hair was white with years --<br>
<span class="tab">was shouting: "Woe to you, corrupted souls!<br>
Forget your hope of ever seeing Heaven:<br>
<span class="tab">I come to lead you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">to the eternal dark, to fire and frost."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22advancing+toward%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And then, there came towards us in a boat<br>
<span class="tab">An old man who was white with brittle hair,<br>
<span class="tab">Calling out: "Woe to you, perverse spirits!<br>
You need not hope that you will ever see heaven;<br>
<span class="tab">I have come to take you to the other side,<br>
<span class="tab">Into eternal darkness, fire and ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22there+came+towards%22">Sisson</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then, at the river -- an old man in a boat:<br>
<span class="tab">White-haired, as he drew closer, shouting at us,<br>
<span class="tab">"Woe to you, wicked souls! Give up the thought<br>
Of Heaven! I come to ferry you across<br>
<span class="tab">Into eternal dark on the opposite side,<br>
<span class="tab">Into fire and ice!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22old+man+in+a+boat%22">Pinsky</a> (1994), l. 67ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">And behold coming toward us in a boat an old man, white with the hairs of age, crying, "Woe to you, wicked souls!<br>
<span class="tab">Never hope to see the sky: I come to lead you to the other shore, to the eternal shadows, to heat and freezing."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22behold+coming%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And see, an old man, with white hoary locks, came towards us in a boat, shouting: "Woe to you, wicked spirits! Never hope to see heaven: I come to carry you to the other shore, into eternal darkness, into fire and ice."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090921:~:text=And%20see%2C%20an%20old%20man%2C%20with%20white%20hoary%20locks%2C%20came%20towards%20us%20in%20a%20boat%2C%20shouting%3A%20%E2%80%98Woe%20to%20you%2C%20wicked%20spirits!%20Never%20hope%20to%20see%20heaven%3A%20I%20come%20to%20carry%20you%20to%20the%20other%20shore%2C%20into%20eternal%20darkness%2C%20into%20fire%20and%20ice.">Kline</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Then lo! as we approached the place, a boat <br>
<span class="tab">materialized, manned by a hoary boatman. <br>
<span class="tab">"Woe to ye!" he roared, "abandon hope! <br>
I come to lead you to the dark dominion <br>
<span class="tab">of the other shore: into eternal shades of ice and fire, <br>
<span class="tab">where no pain is forgotten."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22then%20lo%20as%20we%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Look now! Towards us in a boat there came<br>
<span class="tab">an old man, yelling, hair all white and aged,<br>
<span class="tab">"Degenerates! Your fate is sealed! Cry woe!<br>
Don't hope you'll ever see the skies again!<br>
<span class="tab">I'm here to lead you to the farther shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal shadow, heat and chill."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22boat+there+came%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And now, coming toward us in a boat,<br>
<span class="tab">an old man, his hair white with age, cried out:<br>
<span class="tab">"Woe unto you, you wicked souls,<br>
give up all hope of ever seeing Heaven.<br>
<span class="tab">I come to take you to the other shore,<br>
<span class="tab">into eternal darkness, into heat and chill."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=82&INP_LEN=6">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And suddenly a boat, and an old man in it,<br>
<span class="tab">Came gliding through the misty air, approaching<br>
<span class="tab">The shore. "Ah!" he shouted, "All you wicked<br>
Souls! Don't wish for a Heaven you have no hope<br>
<span class="tab">Of ever seeing! I'm here to take you over<br>
<span class="tab">The river, to eternal darkness, to fire and cold."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22suddenly%20a%20boat%22">Raffel</a> (2010)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Where suddenly an old man in a boat<br>
Headed towards us, tossing his white hair<br>
As he cried, "Woe to you and to your souls!<br>
Give up your hopes of Heaven! I have come<br>
To take you to the other side. Hot coals<br>
And ice await, to brand you and benumb<br>
In everlasting shadow."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22old+man+in+a+boat%22">James</a> (2013), l. 114ff]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE CITY OF WOE, THROUGH ME THE WAY TO EVERLASTING PAIN. THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST. JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH. DIVINE POWER MADE ME, WISDOM SUPREME, AND PRIMAL LOVE. BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT THINGS ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ENDURE. ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE CITY OF WOE,<br />
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO EVERLASTING PAIN.<br />
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST.<br />
JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH.<br />
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br />
<span class="tab">WISDOM SUPREME, AND PRIMAL LOVE.<br />
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT THINGS ETERNAL,<br />
<span class="tab">AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br />
<span class="tab">ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE.</p>
<p><em>[Per me si va ne la città dolente,<br />
<span class="tab">per me si va ne l&#8217;etterno dolore,<br />
<span class="tab">per me si va tra la perduta gente.<br />
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore;<br />
<span class="tab">fecemi la divina podestate,<br />
<span class="tab">la somma sapïenza e ’l primo amore.<br />
Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create<br />
<span class="tab">se non etterne, e io etterno duro.<br />
<span class="tab">Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto  3, l.   1ff (3.1-9) (1309) [tr. Hollander/Hollander (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=3&INP_START=1&INP_LEN=9" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Inscription on the outer gate to Hell. Sometimes quoted/translated to use "all" to modify "you who enter" rather than "hope," but in the Italian, "ogni speranza" means "all hope."<br><br>

Note that Hell is the creation of all aspects of the Trinity:  Power (the Father), Wisdom (the Son), and Love (the Holy Spirit). Regarding the last, Boyd notes: "That Love to the general welfare that must induce a moral Governor to enforce his laws by the sanction of punishment; as here a mistaken humanity is cruelty."<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_III#:~:text=Per%20me%20si,voi%20ch%E2%80%99intrate%E2%80%99">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Through me you to the doleful City go;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go where there is eternal Grief;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go among the Sinners damn'ed.<br>
With strictest justice is this portal made,<br>
<span class="tab">By Power, Wisdom, and by Love divine.<br>
Nothing before me e'er created was;<br>
<span class="tab">Unless eternal, as I also am.<br>
<span class="tab">Ye who here enter to return despair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22doleful%20city%20go%22">Rogers</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thro' me, the newly-damn'd for ever fleet,<br>
<span class="tab">In ceaseless shoals, to Pain's eternal seat;<br>
<span class="tab">Thro' me they march, and join the tortur'd crew.<br>
The mighty gulph offended Justice made;<br>
<span class="tab">Unbounded pow'r the strong foundation laid,<br>
<span class="tab">And Love, by Wisdom led, the limits drew.<br>
<br>
Long ere the infant world arose to light,<br>
<span class="tab">I found a being in the womb of night.<br>
<span class="tab">Eldest of all -- but things that ever last! --<br>
And I for ever last! -- Ye hear is of Hell,<br>
<span class="tab">Here bid at once your ling'ring hope farewell,<br>
<span class="tab">And mourn the moment of repentance past!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/108/mode/2up">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 1-2]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me you pass into the city of woe:<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you pass into eternal pain:<br>
<span class="tab">Through me among the people lost for aye.<br>
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:<br>
<span class="tab">To rear me was the task of power divine,<br>
<span class="tab">Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.<br>
Before me things create were none, save things<br>
<span class="tab">Eternal, and eternal I endure.<br>
<span class="tab">"All hope abandon ye who enter here."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#link2:~:text=THROUGH%20me%20you,who%20enter%20here.%22">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the path to city named of Wail; <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the path to woe without remove; <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the path to damned souls in bale!<br>
Justice inclined my Maker from above; <br>
<span class="tab">I am by virtue of the Might Divine, <br>
<span class="tab">The Supreme Wisdom, and the Primal Love.<br>
Created birth none antedates to mine, <br>
<span class="tab">Save endless things, and endless I endure: <br>
<span class="tab">Ye that are entering -- all hope resign.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n24/mode/2up?q=%22named+of+wail%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Through me is the way into the doleful city; through me the way into the eternal pain; through me the way among the people lost.<br>
<span class="tab">Justice moved my High Maker; Divine Power made me, Wisdom Supreme, and Primal Love.<br>
<span class="tab">Before me were no things created, but eternal; and eternal I endure: leave all hope, ye that enter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22into%20the%20doleful%20city%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the way into the sad city --<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way into eternal grief --<br>
<span class="tab">Through me to nations lost without relief.<br>
Justice it was that moved my Maker high,<br>
<span class="tab">The power divine of Architect above,<br>
<span class="tab">The highest wisdom and the earliest love.<br>
The things of time were not before me, and<br>
<span class="tab">'Mid eternal eternally I stand.<br>
<span class="tab">All you that enter must leave hope behind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+sad+city%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am the way unto the dolorous city;<br>
<span class="tab">I am the way unto th' eternal dole;<br>
<span class="tab">I am the way unto the spirits lost.<br>
By Justice was my mighty Maker mov'd;<br>
<span class="tab">Omnipotence Divine created me,<br>
<span class="tab">Infinite Wisdom and Primeval Love.<br>
Prior to me no thing created was<br>
<span class="tab">But things eternal -- I eternal am;<br>
<span class="tab">Leave hope behind all ye who enter here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dolorous%20city%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the way is to the city dolent;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way is to eternal dole;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me the way among the people lost.<br>
Justice incited my sublime Creator;<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Created me divine Omnipotence,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠The highest Wisdom and the primal Love.<br>
Before me there were no created things,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Only eterne, and I eternal last.<br>
<span class="tab">All hope abandon, ye who enter in!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_3#:~:text=T,who%20enter%20in!%22">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME IS THE WAY INTO THE WOEFUL CITY; THROUGH ME IS THE WAY TO THE ENTERNAL WOE; THROUGH ME IS THE WAY AMONG THE LOST FOLK. JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER; MY MAKER WAS THE POWER OF GOD, THE SUPREME WISDOM, AND PRIMAL LOVE. BEFORE ME WERE NO THINGS CREATED SAVE THINGS ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ABIDE; LEAVE EVERY HOPE, O YE THAT ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.granth.92729/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+woeful+city%22">Butler</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me ye pass into the city of woe, <br>
<span class="tab">Through me into eternal pain ye rove;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me amidst the people lost ye go. <br>
My high Creator justice first did move; <br>
<span class="tab">Me Power Divine created, and designed, <br>
<span class="tab">The highest wisdom and the primal love. <br>
Previous to me was no created kind,<br>
<span class="tab">Save the Eternal; I eternal last.<br>
<span class="tab">Ye who here enter, leave all hope behind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+woe%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me is the way into the woeful city; through me is the way into eternal woe; through me is the way among the lost people. Justice moved my lofty maker: the divine Power, the supreme Wisdom and the primal Love made me. Before me were no things created, unless eternal, and I eternal last. Leave every hope, ye who enter!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.II:~:text=Through%20me%20is,ye%20who%20enter!">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me lieth the way to the city of tribulation; through me lieth the way to the pain that hath no end; through me lieth the way amongst the lost. Justice it was that moved my august maker; God's puissance reared me, wisdom from on high, and first-born love. Before me created things were not, save those that are eternal; and I abide eternally. Leave every hope behind, ye that come within.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+tribulation%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me the road is to the city doleful: <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the road is to eternal dolour: <br>
<span class="tab">Through me the road is through the lost folk's dwelling:<br>
Justice it was that moved my lofty Maker: <br>
<span class="tab">Divine Omnipotence it was that made me, <br>
<span class="tab">Wisdom supreme, and Love from everlasting:<br>
Before me were not any things created. <br>
<span class="tab">Save things eternal: I endure eternal: <br>
<span class="tab">Leave every hope behind you, ye who enter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n26/mode/2up?q=%22to+the+city+doleful%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE WOEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY MAKER ON HIGH,<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME <br>
<span class="tab">AND SUPREME WISDOM AND PRIMAL LOVE;<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING WAS CREATED <br>
<span class="tab">BUT ETERNAL THINGS AND I ENDURE ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YE THAT ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/7I7_cvKw8xkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22into%20the%20woeful%20city%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote>v

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY IS TO THE CITY OF WOE:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE ETERNAL PAIN;<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST BELOW.<br>
RIGHTEOUSNESS DID MY MAKER ON HIGH CONSTRAIN.<br>
<span class="tab">ME DID DIVINE AUTHORITY UPREAR;<br>
<span class="tab">ME SUPREME WISDOM AND PRIMAL LOVE SUSTAIN.<br>
BEFORE I WAS, NO THINGS CREATED WERE<br>
<span class="tab">SAVE THE ETERNAL, AND I ETERNAL ABIDE.<br>
<span class="tab">RELINQUISH ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22city+of+woe%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE ROAD TO THE CITY OF DESOLATION,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE ROAD TO SORROWS DIUTURNAL,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE ROAD AMONG THE LOST CREATION.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY GREAT MAKER; GOD ETERNAL<br>
<span class="tab">WROUGHT ME: THE POWER, AND THE UNSEARCHINBLY<br>
<span class="tab">HIGH WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE SUPERNAL.<br>
NOTHING ERE I 2WAS MADE WAS MADE TO BE<br>
<span class="tab">SAVE THINGS ENTERNE, AND I ETERNE ABIDE;<br>
<span class="tab">LAY DOWN ALL HOPE, YOU THAT GO IN BY ME.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy00peng/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22CITY+OF+DESOLATION%22">Sayers</a> (1949)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I AM THE WAY INTO THE CITY OF WOE.<br>
<span class="tab">I AM THE WAY TO A FORSAKEN PEOPLE.<br>
<span class="tab">I AM THE WAY INTO ETERNAL SORROW.<br>
SACRED JUSTICE MOVED MY ARCHITECT.<br>
<span class="tab">I WAS RAISED HERE BY DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE,<br>
<span class="tab">PRIMORDIAL LOVE, AND ULTIMATE INTELLECT.<br>
ONLY THOSE ELEMENTS TIME CANNOT WEAR<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE BEFORE ME, AND BEHOND TIME I STAND.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22into+the+city+of+woe%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME YOU ENTER THE WOEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER ETERNAL GRIEF,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER AMONG THE LOST.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER:<br>
<span class="tab">THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br>
<span class="tab">THE SUPREME WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING WAS CREATED<br>
<span class="tab">IF NOT ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n35/mode/2up?q=%22enter+the+woeful+city%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE DOLEFUL CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO ETERNAL GRIEF,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG A RACE FORSAKEN.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HEAVENLY CONSTRUCTOR;<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE CREATED ME,<br>
<span class="tab">AND HIGHEST WISDOM JOINED WITH PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT ETERNAL THINGS<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE, AND I SHALL LAST ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON HOPE, FOREVER, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22THROUGH+ME+THE+WAY%22">Musa</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE SUFFERING CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY THAT RUNS AMONG THE LOST.<br>
JUSTICE URGED ON MY HIGH ARTIFICER;<br>
<span class="tab">MY MAKER WAS DIVINE AUTHORITY,<br>
<span class="tab">THE HIGHEST WISDOM, AND THE PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME NOTHING BUT ETERNAL THINGS<br>
<span class="tab">WERE MADE, AND I ENDURE ETERNALLY.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22INTO+THE+SUFFERING+CITY%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Through me you go into the city of weeping;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go into eternal pain;<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go among the lost people.<br>
Justice is what moved my exalted Maker;<br>
<span class="tab">I was the invention of the power of God,<br>
<span class="tab">Of his wisdom, and of his primal love.<br>
Before me there was nothing that was created<br>
<span class="tab">Except eternal things; I am eternal:<br>
<span class="tab">No room for hope, when you enter this place.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+go%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME YOU ENTER INTO THE CITY OF WOES,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER INTO ETERNAL PAIN,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME YOU ENTER THE POPULATION OF LOSS.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER, IN POWER DIVINE,<br>
<span class="tab">WISDOM SUPREME, LOVE PRIMAL. NO THINGS WERE<br>
<span class="tab">BEFORE ME NOT ENTERNAL; ETERNAL I REMAIN.<br>
ABANDON ALL HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+enter%22">Pinsky</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO THE GRIEVING CITY,<br>
<span class="tab">2THROUGH ME THE WAY INTO ETERNAL SORROW,<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY AMONG THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY HIGH MAKER;<br>
<span class="tab">DIVINE POWER MADE ME,<br>
<span class="tab">HIGHEST WISDOM, AND PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME WERE NO THINGS CREATED<br>
<span class="tab">EXCEPT ETERNAL ONES, AND I ENDURE ETERNAL.<br>
<span class="tab">ABANDON EVERY HOPE, YOU WHO ENTER.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22THROUGH+ME+THE+WAY%22">Durling</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE INFERNAL CITY:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO ETERNAL SADNESS:<br>
<span class="tab">THROUGH ME THE WAY TO THE LOST PEOPLE.<br>
JUSTICE MOVED MY SUPREME MAKER:<br>
<span class="tab">I WAS SHAPED BY DIVINE POWER,<br>
<span class="tab">BY HIGHEST WISDOM, AND BY PRIMAL LOVE.<br>
BEFORE ME, NOTHING WAS CREATED,<br>
<span class="tab">THAT IS NOT ETERNAL: AND ETERNAL I ENDURE.<br>
<span class="tab">FORSAKE ALL HOPE, ALL YOU THAT ENTER HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.php#anchor_Toc64090918:~:text=THROUGH%20ME%20THE,THAT%20ENTER%20HERE.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Through me, into the city full of woe;<br>
<span class="tab">through me, the message of eternal pain;<br>
<span class="tab">through me, the passage where the lost souls go.<br>
Justice moved my Maker in his high domain;<br>
<span class="tab">Power Divine and Primal Love built me,<br>
<span class="tab">and Supreme Wisdom; I will aye remain.<br>
Before me there was nothing made to be, <br>
<span class="tab">except eternity; eternal I endure;<br>
<span class="tab">all hope abandon, ye who go through me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Alighieri/B8DHyhZK8ZQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22city%20full%20of%20woe%22">Carson</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Through me you go to the grief-wracked city.<br>
<span class="tab">Through me to everlasting pain you go.<br>
<span class="tab">Through me you go and pass among lost souls.<br>
Justice inspired my exalted Creator.<br>
<span class="tab">I am a creature of the Holiest Power,<br>
<span class="tab">of Wisdom in the HIghest and of Primal Love.<br>
Nothing till I was made was made, only<br>
<span class="tab">eternal beings. And I endure eternally.<br>
<span class="tab">Surrender as you enter every hope you have.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant_l7y1/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22through+me+you+go%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>It is through me you come to the city of sorrow,<br>
<span class="tab">It is through me you reach eternal sadness,<br>
<span class="tab">It is through me you join the forever-lost.<br>
Justice moved my makers' wondrous hands;<br>
<span class="tab">I was made by Heaven's powers, holy, divine,<br>
<span class="tab">Endless wisdom, primal love of man.<br>
Eternal existence preceded mine,<br>
<span class="tab">And nothing more. I will exist for ever.<br>
<span class="tab">Give up all hope, until the end of time. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22it%20is%20through%20me%22">Raffel</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>TO ENTER THE LOST CITY, GO THROUGH ME.<br>
THROUGH ME YOU GO TO MEET A SUFFERING<br>
UNCEASING AND ETERNAL. YOU WILL BE<br>
WITH PEOPLE WHO, THROUGH ME, LOST EVERYTHING.<br>
<br>
MY MAKER, MOVED BY JUSTICE, LIVES ABOVE.<br>
THROUGH HIM, THE HOLY POWER, I WAS MADE --<br>
MADE BY THE HEIGHT OF WISDOM AND FIRST LOVE,<br>
WHOSE LAWS ALL THOSE IN HERE ONCE DISOBEYED.<br>
<br>
FROM NOW ON, EVERY DAY FEELS LIKE YOUR LAST<br>
FOREVER. LET THAT BE YOUR GREATEST FEAR.<br>
YOUR FUTURE NOW IS TO REGRET THE PAST.<br>
FORGET YOUR HOPES. THEY WERE WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22to+enter+the+lost+city%22">James</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  4, l.  24ff (4.24-29) [Dido] (29-19 BC) [tr. Bartsch (2021)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I&#8217;d sooner have the depths of earth gape open, and almighty Father hurl me down to Hades with his bolt, to the pallid shades and inky night, before I disobey my conscience or its laws. [Sed mihi vel tellus optem prius ima dehiscat Vel pater omnipotens adigat me fulmine ad umbras, Pallentis umbras Erebo [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I&#8217;d sooner have the depths of earth gape open,<br />
and almighty Father hurl me down to Hades<br />
with his bolt, to the pallid shades and inky night,<br />
before I disobey my conscience or its laws.</p>
<p><em>[Sed mihi vel tellus optem prius ima dehiscat<br />
Vel pater omnipotens adigat me fulmine ad umbras,<br />
Pallentis umbras Erebo noctemque profundam,<br />
Ante, pudor, quam te violo aut tua iura resolvo.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  4, l.  24ff (4.24-29) [Dido] (29-19 BC) [tr. Bartsch (2021)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22depths%20of%20earth%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Dido, regarding her loyalty to her dead husband even as she falls in love with Aeneas. <br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D4%3Acard%3D1#:~:text=Sed%20mihi%20vel,iura%20resolvo.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>But first earth swallow me, or mighty Jove<br>
Shall to the shades with dreadfull thunder smite,<br>
Pale shades of Erebus and deepest night,<br>
Ere shame I violate thee, or wrong thy rites.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.4?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=But%20first%20earth,wrong%20thy%20rites">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>But first let yawning earth a passage rend,<br>
And let me thro' the dark abyss descend;<br>
First let avenging Jove, with flames from high,<br>
Drive down this body to the nether sky,<br>
Condemn'd with ghosts in endless night to lie,<br>
Before I break the plighted faith I gave!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_IV#:~:text=But%20first%20let%20yawning%20earth%20a%20passage%20rend%2C%0AAnd%20let%20me%20thro%27%20the%20dark%20abyss%20descend%3B%0AFirst%20let%20avenging%20Jove%2C%20with%20flames%20from%20high%2C%0ADrive%20down%20this%20body%20to%20the%20nether%20sky%2C%0ACondemn%27d%20with%20ghosts%20in%20endless%20night%20to%20lie%2C%0ABefore%20I%20break%20the%20plighted%20faith%20I%20gave!">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But sooner may earth from her lowest depths yawn for me, or the almighty Sire hurl me by his thunder to the shades, the pale shades of Erebus and deep night, than I violate thee, modesty, or break they laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sooner%20may%20earth%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But first for me may Earth unseal<br>
<span class="tab">The horrors of her womb,<br>
Or Jove with awful thunderpeal<br>
<span class="tab">Dismiss me into gloom,<br>
The gloom of Orcus' dim twilight,<br>
Or deeper still, primeval night,<br>
Ere wound I thee, my woman's fame,<br>
Or disallow thy sacred claim.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_4#:~:text=But%20first%20for,thy%20sacred%20claim.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But I would rather that the steadfast earth<br>
Should yawn beneath me, from its lowest depths,<br>
Or the Omnipotent Father hurl me down<br>
With thunder to the shades, the pallid shades<br>
Of Erebus, and night profound, ere thee,<br>
O sacred shame, I violate, or break<br>
Thy laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n125/mode/2up?q=%22steadfast+earth%22">Cranch</a> (1872)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But rather, I pray, may earth first yawn deep for me, or the Lord omnipotent hurl me with his thunderbolt into gloom, the pallid gloom and profound night of Erebus, ere I soil thee, mine honour, or unloose thy laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_FOURTH:~:text=But%20rather%2C%20I%20pray%2C%20may%20earth%20first%20yawn%20deep%20for%20me%2C%20or%20the%20Lord%20omnipotent%20hurl%20me%20with%20his%20thunderbolt%20into%20gloom%2C%20the%20pallid%20gloom%20and%20profound%20night%20of%20Erebus%2C%20ere%20I%20soil%20thee%2C%20mine%20honour%2C%20or%20unloose%20thy%20laws.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And yet I pray the deeps of earth beneath my feet may yawn,<br>
I pray the Father send me down bolt-smitten to the shades,<br>
The pallid shades of Erebus, the night that never fades,<br>
Before, O Shame, I shame thy face, or loose what thou hast tied!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_IV:~:text=And%20yet%20I,thou%20hast%20tied!">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But O! gape Earth, or may the Sire of might<br>
Hurl me with lightning to the Shades amain,<br>
Pale shades of Erebus and abysmal Night,<br>
Ere, wifely modesty, thy name I stain,<br>
Or dare thy sacred precepts to profane.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=But%20O!%20gape%20Earth%2C%20or%20may%20the%20Sire%20of%20might%0AHurl%20me%20with%20lightning%20to%20the%20Shades%20amain%2C%0APale%20shades%20of%20Erebus%20and%20abysmal%20Night%2C%0AEre%2C%20wifely%20modesty%2C%20thy%20name%20I%20stain%2C%0AOr%20dare%20thy%20sacred%20precepts%20to%20profane.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 4, l. 28ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But may the earth gape open where I tread,<br>
and may almighty Jove with thunder-scourge<br>
hurl me to Erebus' abysmal shade,<br>
to pallid ghosts and midnight fathomless,<br>
before, O Chastity! I shall offend<br>
thy holy power, or cast thy bonds away!<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D4%3Acard%3D1#:~:text=But%20may%20the%20earth%20gape%20open%20where%20I%20tread%2C%0Aand%20may%20almighty%20Jove%20with%20thunder%2Dscourge%0Ahurl%20me%20to%20Erebus%27%20abysmal%20shade%2C%0Ato%20pallid%20ghosts%20and%20midnight%20fathomless%2C%0Abefore%2C%20O%20Chastity!%20I%20shall%20offend%0Athy%20holy%20power%2C%20or%20cast%20thy%20bonds%20away!">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But rather, I would pray, may earth yawn for me to its depths, or may the Almighty Father hurl me with his bolt to the shades -- the pale shades and abysmal night of Erebus -- before, O Shame, I violate thee or break thy laws!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n405/mode/2up?q=yawn">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But I pray, rather,<br>
That earth engulf me, lightning strike me down<br>
To the pale shades and everlasting night<br>
Before I break the laws of decency.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_IV:~:text=But%20I%20pray,laws%20of%20decency.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But no, I would rather the earth should open and swallow me<br>
Or the Father of heaven strike me with lightning down to the shades --<br>
The pale shades and deep night of the Underworld -- before<br>
I violate or deny pure widowhood's claim upon me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/80/mode/2up?q=swallow">Day Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But I should call upon the earth to gape<br>
and close above me, or on the almighty<br>
Father to take his thunderbolt, to hurl <br>
me down to the shades, the pallid shadows <br>
and deepest night of Erebus, before <br>
I'd violate you, Shame, or break your laws!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/82/mode/2up?q=gape">Mandelbaum</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But O chaste life, before I break your laws,<br>
I pray that Earth may open, gape for me<br>
Down to its depth, or the omnipotent<br>
With one stroke blast me to the shades, pale shades<br>
Of Erebus and the deep world of night!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22o+chaste+life%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But I would pray that the earth open to its depths and swallow me or that the All-powerful Father of the Gods blast me with his thunderbolt and hurl me down to the pale shades of Erebus and its bottomless night before I go against my conscience and rescind its laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/80/mode/2up?q=swallow">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>But I pray rather that earth might gape wide for me, to its depths,<br>
or the all-powerful father hurl me with his lightning-bolt<br>
down to the shadows, to the pale ghosts, and deepest night<br>
of Erebus, before I violate you, Honour, or break your laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidIV.php#anchor_Toc342017:~:text=But%20I%20pray,break%20your%20laws.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>But may the earth gape open and swallow me,<br>
May the Father Almighty blast me<br>
Down to the shades of Erebus below<br>
And Night profound, before I violate you,<br>
O Modesty, and break your vows.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/libMBPer2zcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22swallow%20me%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I pray that the earth gape deep enough to take me down<br>
or the almighty Father blast me with one bolt to the shades,<br>
the pale, glimmering shades in hell, the pit of night,<br>
before I dishonor you, my conscience, break your laws.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22earth%20gape%22">Fagles</a> (2006), l. 30ff]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Asimov, Isaac -- I, Asimov, ch. 73 &#8220;Letters&#8221; (1979)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once, when a religionist denounced me in unmeasured terms, I sent him a card saying, &#8220;I am sure you believe that I will go to hell when I die, and that once there I will suffer all the pains and tortures the sadistic ingenuity of your deity can devise and that this torture will continue forever. Isn&#8217;t that enough for you? Do you have to call me bad names in addition?&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Isaac Asimov</b> (1920-1992) Russian-American author, polymath, biochemist<br><i>I, Asimov</i>, ch. 73 &#8220;Letters&#8221; (1979) 
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		<title>Homer -- The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  1, l.  32ff (1.32) [Zeus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My word, how mortals take the gods to task!<br />
All their afflictions come from us, we hear.<br />
And what of their own failings? Greed and folly<br />
double the suffering in the lot of man.</p>
<p>[ὢ πόποι, οἷον δή νυ θεοὺς βροτοὶ αἰτιόωνται.<br />
ἐξ ἡμέων γάρ φασι κάκ&#8217; ἔμμεναι· οἱ δὲ καὶ αὐτοὶ<br />
σφῇσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὑπὲρ μόρον ἄλγε&#8217; ἔχουσιν.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Odyssey</i> [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  1, l.  32ff (1.32) [Zeus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1961)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/bafQVqR6O5kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT7&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22gods%20to%20task%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0135%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D1#text_main:~:text=%E1%BD%A2%20%CF%80%CF%8C%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%B9%2C%20%CE%BF%E1%BC%B7%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%CE%AE%20%CE%BD%CF%85%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%E1%BD%BA%CF%82,%CF%83%CF%86%E1%BF%87%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B8%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%AF%E1%BF%83%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%91%CF%80%E1%BD%B2%CF%81%20%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CE%BB%CE%B3%CE%B5%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%94%CF%87%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%2C">Original Greek</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>O how falsely men<br>
Accuse us Gods as authors of their ill!<br>
When, by the bane their own bad lives instill,<br>
They suffer all the mis’ries of their states,<br>
Past our inflictions, and beyond their fates.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/48895/48895-h/48895-h.htm#:~:text=O%20how%20falsely%20men,our%20inflictions%2C%20and%20beyond%20their%20fates.">Chapman</a> (1616)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ha! how dare mortals tax the Gods, and say,<br>
Their harms do all proceed from our decree,<br>
And by our setting; when by their crimes they<br>
Against our wills make their own destiny?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/hobbes-the-english-works-vol-x-iliad-and-odyssey#Hobbes_0051-10_15188:~:text=Ha!%20how%20dare%20mortals%20tax%20the,our%20wills%20make%20their%20own%20destiny%3F">Hobbes</a> (1675), l. 37ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Perverse mankind! whose wills, created free,<br>
Charge all their woes on absolute degree;<br>
All to the dooming gods their guilt translate,<br>
And follies are miscall'd the crimes of fate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Odyssey_(Pope)/Book_I#headernext:~:text=Perverse%20mankind!%20whose%20wills%2C%20created%20free%2C,are%20miscall'd%20the%20crimes%20of%20fate.">Pope</a> (1725)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Alas! how prone are human-kind to blame<br>
The Pow’rs of Heav’n! From us, they say, proceed<br>
The ills which they endure, yet more than Fate<br>
Herself inflicts, by their own crimes incur.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24269/24269-h/24269-h.htm#BI_l40:~:text=Alas!%20how%20prone%20are%20human%2Dkind%20to,inflicts%2C%20by%20their%20own%20crimes%20incur.">Cowper</a> (1792), l. 41ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mortals, ye Powers, upbraid us with their voice,<br>
And brand us for the fount of all their ill,<br>
Who, of their own acts, not of fate but choice,<br>
Heap to themselves much toil and sorrow still.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/7-Eh5oFk6msC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=mortals%20ye%20powers%20upbraid">Worsley</a> (1861), st. 6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why! what reproach,<br>
Ye gods! do mortals cast on deities!<br>
To us all their calamities they trace,<br>
While they, themselves, through their own senseless acts,<br>
Feel pangs their destiny had ne'er decreed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/RgULAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=odyssey%20musgrave&pg=PA3&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22what%20reproach%22">Musgrave</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh heavens! how mortals now to blame the gods!<br>
From us they say spring ills! but they themselves<br>
By their own folly bring unfated woes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Nearly_Literal_Translation_of_Homer_s/44YXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22mortals%20now%20do%20blame%22">Bigge-Wither</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lo you now, how vainly mortal men do blame the gods! For of us they say comes evil, whereas they even of themselves, through the blindness of their own hearts, have sorrows beyond that which is ordained.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1728/1728-h/1728-h.htm#:~:text=Lo%20you%20now%2C%20how%20vainly%20mortal,sorrows%20beyond%20that%20which%20is%20ordained.">Butcher/Lang</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lo, how men blame the gods! From us, they say, spring troubles. But through their own perversity and more than is their due they meet with sorrow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/KYlBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22how%20men%20blame%20the%20gods%22">Palmer</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>See now, how men lay blame upon us gods for what is after all nothing but their own folly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(Butler)/Book_I#cite_ref-1:~:text=See%20now%2C%20how%20men%20lay%20blame%20upon%20us%20gods%20for%20what%20is%20after%20all%20nothing%20but%20their%20own%20folly.">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh my, how mortals hold us gods responsible! For they say that their misfortunes come from us. But they get their sufferings, beyond what is fated, by way of their own acts of recklessness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/homeric-odyssey-sb/#main:~:text=Oh%20my%2C%20how%20mortals%20hold%20us,their%20own%20acts%20of%20recklessness%20%5Batasthaliai%5D.">Butler</a> (1898), rev. Kim/McCray/Nagy/Power (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Look you now, how ready mortals are to blame the gods. It is from us, they say, that evils come, but they even of themselves, through their own blind folly, have sorrows beyond that which is ordained.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0136%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D1#text_main:~:text=Look%20you%20now%2C%20how%20ready%20mortals,sorrows%20beyond%20that%20which%20is%20ordained.">Murray</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It vexes me to see how mean are these creatures of a day towards us Gods, when they charge against us the evils (far beyond our worst dooming) which their own exceeding wantonness has heaped upon themselves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/r8eKFwymHmcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=homer%20odyssey&pg=PA1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22it%20vexes%20me%22">Lawrence</a> (1932)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What a lamentable thing it is that men should blame the gods and regard us as the source of their troubles, when it is their own wickedness that brings them sufferings worse than any which Destiny allots them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/TheOdyssey/TheOdyssey_djvu.txt#maincontent:~:text=What%20a%20lamentable%20thing%20it%20is,Destiny%20allots%20them.">Rieu</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame upon us <br>
gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather,<br> 
who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/OT7MUVjJ82wC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT35&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22oh%20for%20shame%22">Lattimore</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Men are so quick to blame the gods: they say<br>
that we devise their misery. But they<br>
themselves -- in their depravity -- design<br>
grief greater than the griefs that fate assigns.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/ORyo8qAA-CQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=odyssey%20%22Men%20are%20so%20quick%20to%20blame%20the%20gods%22&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Men%20are%20so%20quick%20to%20blame%20the%20gods%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah how shameless -- the way these mortals blame the gods.<br>
From us alone, they say, come all their miseries, yes,<br>
but they themselves, with their own reckless ways,<br>
compound their pains beyond their proper share.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.boyle.kyschools.us/UserFiles/88/The%20Odyssey.pdf">Fagles</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mortals! They are always blaming the gods<br>
For their troubles, when their own witlessness<br>
Causes them more than they were destined for!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/yIFAC9r4NW0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22always%20blaming%22">Lombardo</a> (2000), l. 37ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Strange to behold, what blame these mortals can bring against godhead! For their ills, they assert, are from us, when they themselves by their mad recklessness have pain far past what is fated.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/EC9coOuym-kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover&bsq=strange%20to%20behold">Merrill</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>How surprising that men blame the gods, and say their troubles come from us, though they, through their own un-wisdom, find suffering beyond what is fated.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Odyssey1.php#anchor_Toc90267059:~:text=How%20surprising%20that%20men%20blame%20the%20gods%2C%20and%20say%20their%20troubles%20come%20from%20us%2C%20though%20they%2C%20through%20their%20own%20un%2Dwisdom%2C%20find%20suffering%20beyond%20what%20is%20fated.">Kline</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What a lamentable thing it is that men should blame the gods and regard us as the source of their troubles, when it is their own transgressions which bring them suffering that was not their destiny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/U2Jovv1NuMsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT61&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22what%20a%20lamentable%20thing%22">DCH Rieu</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>
<blockquote>This is not good! See how mortals find fault with us gods!<br>
They say it is from us that all evil things come, yet it is by their<br>
own recklessness that they suffer hardship beyond their destiny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/o8dLDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22this%20is%20not%20good%22">Verity</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">This is absurd,<br>
that mortals blame the gods! They say we cause<br>
their suffering, but they themselves increase it <br>
by folly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/PpJYDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT116&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22this%20is%20absurd%22">Wilson</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My oh my, the way mortals will fasten blame on the gods!<br>
From us, they say, evils come, yet they themselves<br>
through their own blind recklessness have ills beyond<br>
their fated lot.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/BUFJDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22mortals%20will%20fasten%22">Green</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It’s disgraceful how humans blame the gods.<br>
They say their tribulations come from us,<br>
when they themselves, through their own foolishness,<br>
bring hardships which are not decreed by Fate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250214160811/http://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/homer/odyssey1html.html#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20disgraceful%20how%20humans%20blame%20the%20gods.%0AThey%20say%20their%20tribulations%20come%20from%20us%2C%0Awhen%20they%20themselves%2C%20through%20their%20own%20foolishness%2C%0Abring%20hardships%20which%20are%20not%20decreed%20by%20Fate.">Johnston</a> (2019), l. 41ff]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>McCarthy, Cormac -- Outer Dark, ch. 17 (1968)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the meanness of humans till I don&#8217;t know why God ain&#8217;t put out the sun and gone away.</p>
<br><b>Cormac McCarthy</b> (1933-2023) American novelist, playwright, screenwriter<br><i>Outer Dark</i>, ch. 17 (1968) 
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		<title>Miller, Walter M. -- A Canticle for Leibowitz, &#8220;Fiat Homo,&#8221; ch. 6 (1959)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">It was said that God, in order to test mankind which had become swelled with pride as in the time of Noah, had commanded the wise men of that age, among them the Blessed Leibowitz, to devise great engines of war such as had never before been upon the Earth, weapons of such might that they contained the very fires of Hell, and that God had suffered these magi to place the weapons in the hands of princes, and to say to each prince: &#8220;Only because the enemies have such a thing have we devised this for thee, in order that they may know that thou hast it also, and fear to strike. See to it, m&#8217;Lord, that thou fearest them as much as they shall now fear thee, that none may unleash this dread thing which we have wrought.&#8221; But the princes, putting the words of their wise men to naught, thought each to himself: If I but strike quickly enough, and in secret, I shall destroy these others in their sleep, and there will be none to fight back; the earth shall be mine.<br />
<span class="tab">Such was the folly of princes, and there followed the Flame Deluge.</p>
<br><b>Walter M. Miller Jr.</b> (1923-1996) American writer<br><i>A Canticle for Leibowitz</i>, &#8220;Fiat Homo,&#8221; ch. 6 (1959) 
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		<title>Twain, Mark -- Quoted in Merle Johnson, ed., More Maxims of Mark (1927)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble ain&#8217;t that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain&#8217;t distributed right.</p>
<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br>Quoted in Merle Johnson, ed., <i>More Maxims of Mark</i> (1927) 
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Not found in a primary source. Johnson was a rare book collector who published the first thorough bibilography of Twain's works in 1910.  His 1927 work is a 15-page pamphlet, generally considered authentic by scholars, but it provides <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Quotable_Mark_Twain_His_Essential_Ap/NX9dNlcEJfEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22too%20many%20fools%22">no other context</a> for the saying.<br><br>

For more information on the history of this quotation, see <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/10/06/fools-lightning/" title="Quote Origin: The Trouble Ain’t That There Is Too Many Fools, But That the Lightning Ain’t Distributed Right – Quote Investigator®">Quote Origin: The Trouble Ain’t That There Is Too Many Fools, But That the Lightning Ain’t Distributed Right – Quote Investigator®</a>.<br><br>

Variant: "The trouble isn’t that there are too many fools, but that the lightning isn’t distributed right."



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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1881-05-01) &#8220;The Great Infidels,&#8221; Booth&#8217;s Theater, New York</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved &#8212; cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved &#8212; cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and redeemed will drown with shouts of joy the cries and sobs of hell &#8212; in which happiness will forget misery, where the tears of the lost only increase laughter and double bliss.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1881-05-01) &#8220;The Great Infidels,&#8221; Booth&#8217;s Theater, New York 
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		<title>Bible, Vol. 2. New Testament -- Book  6. Letter to the Romans 12:19ff (Rom 12:19–21) [NRSV (2021 ed.)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the Lord.” Instead, “if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink, for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads.” Do [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the Lord.” Instead, “if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink, for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.</p>
<p>[μὴ ἑαυτοὺς ἐκδικοῦντες, ἀγαπητοί, ἀλλὰ δότε τόπον τῇ ὀργῇ, γέγραπται γάρ, &#8221; Ἐμοὶ ἐκδίκησις, ἐγὼ ἀνταποδώσω,&#8221; λέγει κύριος. ἀλλ᾽ &#8221; ἐὰν πεινᾷ ὁ ἐχθρός σου, ψώμιζε αὐτόν· ἐὰν διψᾷ, πότιζε αὐτόν· τοῦτο γὰρ ποιῶν ἄνθρακας πυρὸς σωρεύσεις ἐπὶ τὴν κεφαλὴν αὐτοῦ.&#8221; μὴ νικῶ ὑπὸ τοῦ κακοῦ ἀλλὰ νίκα ἐν τῷ ἀγαθῷ τὸ κακόν.]</p>
<br><b>The Bible (The New Testament)</b> (AD 1st - 2nd C) Christian sacred scripture<br>Book  6. <i>Letter to the Romans</i> 12:19ff (Rom 12:19–21) [NRSV (2021 ed.)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%2012%3A19-21&version=NRSVUE" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The two passages quoted are <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut.32.35&version=AKJV">Deut. 32:35</a> and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov.25.21-Prov.25.22&version=AKJV">Proverbs 25:21-22</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://tips.translation.bible/tip_verse/rom-1219/">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%2012%3A19-21&version=AKJV">KJV</a> (1611)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Never try to get revenge; leave that, my friends, to God's anger. As scripture says: vengeance is mine - I will pay them back, the Lord promises. But there is more: If your enemy is hungry, you should give him food, and if he is thirsty, let him drink. Thus you heap red-hot coals on his head. Resist evil and conquer it with good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.seraphim.my/bible/jb/JB-NT06%20ROMANS.htm#:~:text=Never%20try%20to,it%20with%20good.">JB</a> (1966)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Never try to get revenge: leave that, my dear friends, to the Retribution. As scripture says: Vengeance is mine -- I will pay them back, the Lord promises. And more: If your enemy is hungry, give him something to eat; if thirsty, something to drink. By this, you will be heaping red-hot coals on his head. Do not be mastered by evil, but master evil with good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.bibliacatolica.com.br/en/new-jerusalem-bible/romans/12/#:~:text=Never%20try%20to,evil%20with%20good.">NJB</a> (1985)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Never take revenge, my friends, but instead let God's anger do it. For the scripture says, “I will take revenge, I will pay back, says the Lord.”  Instead, as the scripture says: “If your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them a drink; for by doing this you will make them burn with shame.” Do not let evil defeat you; instead, conquer evil with good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%2012%3A19-21&version=GNT">GNT</a> (1992 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Don’t try to get revenge for yourselves, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath. It is written, <i>Revenge belongs to me; I will pay it back, says the Lord.</i> Instead, <i>If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink. By doing this, you will pile burning coals of fire upon his head.</i> Don’t be defeated by evil, but defeat evil with good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%2012%3A19-21&version=CEB">CEB</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>






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		<title>Bible, Vol. 1. Old Testament -- Book 23. Isaiah 10: 1ff (Isa 10:1-3) [tr. NIV (2011 ed.)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless. What will you do on the day of reckoning, when disaster comes from afar? To whom will you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woe to those who make unjust laws,<br />
<span class="tab">to those who issue oppressive decrees,<br />
to deprive the poor of their rights<br />
<span class="tab">and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,<br />
making widows their prey<br />
<span class="tab">and robbing the fatherless.<br />
What will you do on the day of reckoning,<br />
<span class="tab">when disaster comes from afar?<br />
To whom will you run for help?<br />
<span class="tab">Where will you leave your riches?<br />
Nothing will remain but to cringe among the captives<br />
<span class="tab">or fall among the slain.</p>
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ה֥וֹי הַחֹֽקְקִ֖ים חִקְקֵי־אָ֑וֶן וּֽמְכַתְּבִ֥ים עָמָ֖ל כִּתֵּֽבוּ׃<br />
לְהַטּ֤וֹת מִדִּין֙ דַּלִּ֔ים וְלִגְזֹ֕ל מִשְׁפַּ֖ט עֲנִיֵּ֣י עַמִּ֑י לִֽהְי֤וֹת אַלְמָנוֹת֙ שְׁלָלָ֔ם וְאֶת־יְתוֹמִ֖ים יָבֹֽזּוּ׃<br />
וּמַֽה־תַּעֲשׂוּ֙ לְי֣וֹם פְּקֻדָּ֔ה וּלְשׁוֹאָ֖ה מִמֶּרְחָ֣ק תָּב֑וֹא עַל־מִי֙ תָּנ֣וּסוּ לְעֶזְרָ֔ה וְאָ֥נָה תַעַזְב֖וּ כְּבוֹדְכֶֽם׃<br />
בִּלְתִּ֤י כָרַע֙ תַּ֣חַת אַסִּ֔יר וְתַ֥חַת הֲרוּגִ֖ים יִפֹּ֑לוּ
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<br><b>The Bible (The Old Testament)</b> (14th - 2nd C BC) Judeo-Christian sacred scripture [Tanakh, Hebrew Bible], incl. the Apocrypha (Deuterocanonicals) <br>Book 23. <i>Isaiah</i> 10: 1ff (Isa 10:1-3) [tr. NIV (2011 ed.)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+10%3A1-4&version=NIV" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.sefaria.org/Isaiah.10.1?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en">Source (Hebrew)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed; To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless! And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory? Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+10%3A1-4&version=KJV">KJV</a> (1611)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are doomed! You make unjust laws that oppress my people. That is how you keep the poor from having their rights and from getting justice. That is how you take the property that belongs to widows and orphans. What will you do when God punishes you? What will you do when he brings disaster on you from a distant country? Where will you run to find help? Where will you hide your wealth? You will be killed in battle or dragged off as prisoners.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+10%3A1-4&version=GNT">GNT</a> (1976)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Woe to those who enact unjust decrees, who compose oppressive legislation to deny justice to the weak and to cheat the humblest of my people of fair judgement, to make widows their prey and to rob the orphan. What will you do on the day of punishment, when disaster comes from far away? To whom will you run for help and where will you leave your riches, to avoid squatting among the captives or falling among the slain?<br>
[<a href="https://www.bibliacatolica.com.br/en/new-jerusalem-bible/isaiah/10/#:~:text=Woe%20to%20those,among%20the%20slain%3F">NJB</a> (1985)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ha! Those who write out evil writs and compose iniquitous documents, to subvert the cause of the poor, to rob of their rights the needy of My people; that widows may be their spoil, and fatherless children their booty! What will you do on the day of punishment, When the calamity comes from afar? To whom will you flee for help, And how will you save your carcasses from collapsing under [fellow] prisoners, from falling beneath the slain?<br>
[<a href="https://www.sefaria.org/Isaiah.10.4?lang=en">JPS</a> (1985); 10:1-4a]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Woe to those who make iniquitous decrees, who write oppressive statutes, to turn aside the needy from justice and to rob the poor of my people of their right, to make widows their spoil and to plunder orphans! What will you do on the day of punishment, in the calamity that will come from far away? To whom will you flee for help, and where will you leave your wealth, so as not to crouch among the prisoners or fall among the slain?<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+10%3A1-4&version=NRSVUE">NRSV</a> (1989 ed.)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Carlin, George -- Show (1999-02-06), You Are All Diseased, Beacon Theater, New York City (HBO)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion &#8212; easily &#8212; has the Greatest Bullshit Story Ever Told! Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there&#8217;s an <em>invisible man &#8212; living in the sky</em> &#8212; who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things He does not want you to do. And if you do <em>any</em> of these ten things, He has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time! But He loves you! He loves you. He loves you and He <i>needs money!</i>  He always needs money! He&#8217;s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise &#8212; somehow just can&#8217;t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story, holy shit!</p>
<br><b>George Carlin</b> (1937-2008) American comedian<br>Show (1999-02-06), <i>You Are All Diseased</i>, Beacon Theater, New York City (HBO) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/comedy/george-carlin-you-are-all-diseased-transcript/#:~:text=Religion%20easily%20has,story%E2%80%A6%20holy%20shit!" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://youtu.be/_BFIRgn9OLI?si=heR7J3C0-2n4eEvl&t=22">Source (Video)</a>).

<a href="https://archive.org/details/napalmsillyputty00carl_0/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22bullshit+story%22">Reprinted</a>, slightly edited, in <i>Napalm & Silly Putty</i>, "Bullshit from the Sky" (2001):<br><br>

<blockquote>Religion -- easily -- has the Greatest Bullshit Story Ever Told! Think about it: religion has actually convinced people -- many of them adults -- that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do <em>any</em> of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time! But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money!  He always needs money. He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow ... he just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, pays no taxes, and somehow always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy shit!</blockquote>









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		<title>Bible, Vol. 1. Old Testament -- Book 12. 2 Kings  2:23ff (2 Kgs 2:23-24) [tr. GNT (1976)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elisha left Jericho to go to Bethel, and on the way some boys came out of a town and made fun of him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they shouted. Elisha turned around, glared at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and tore [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elisha left Jericho to go to Bethel, and on the way some boys came out of a town and made fun of him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they shouted. Elisha turned around, glared at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys to pieces.</p>
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וַיַּ֥עַל מִשָּׁ֖ם בֵּֽית־אֵ֑ל וְה֣וּא ׀ עֹלֶ֣ה בַדֶּ֗רֶךְ וּנְעָרִ֤ים קְטַנִּים֙ יָצְא֣וּ מִן־הָעִ֔יר וַיִּתְקַלְּסוּ־בוֹ֙ וַיֹּ֣אמְרוּ ל֔וֹ עֲלֵ֥ה קֵרֵ֖חַ עֲלֵ֥ה קֵרֵֽחַ׃<br />
וַיִּ֤פֶן אַֽחֲרָיו֙ וַיִּרְאֵ֔ם וַֽיְקַלְלֵ֖ם בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהֹוָ֑ה וַתֵּצֶ֜אנָה שְׁתַּ֤יִם דֻּבִּים֙ מִן־הַיַּ֔עַר וַתְּבַקַּ֣עְנָה מֵהֶ֔ם אַרְבָּעִ֥ים וּשְׁנֵ֖י יְלָדִֽים׃</p>
<br><b>The Bible (The Old Testament)</b> (14th - 2nd C BC) Judeo-Christian sacred scripture [Tanakh, Hebrew Bible], incl. the Apocrypha (Deuterocanonicals) <br>Book 12. <i>2 Kings</i>  2:23ff (2 Kgs 2:23-24) [tr. GNT (1976)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2%3A23-24&version=GNT" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.sefaria.org/II_Kings.2.23?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en">Source (Hebrew)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2%3A23-24&version=KJV">KJV</a> (1611)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From there he went up to Bethel, and while he was on the road up, some small boys came out of the town and jeered at him. ‘Go up, baldhead!’ they shouted ‘Go up, baldhead!’ He turned round and looked at them; and he cursed them in the name of Yahweh. And two she-bears came out of the wood and savaged forty-two of the boys.<br>
[<a href="https://bibledoctrine.us/2_kings/#:~:text=From%20there%20he,of%20the%20boys.">JB</a> (1966)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2%3A23-24&version=NRSVUE">NRSV</a> (1989 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From there he went up to Bethel. As he was going up the road, some little boys came out of the town and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!”   He turned around and looked at them and cursed them in the name of GOD. Thereupon, two she-bears came out of the woods and mangled forty-two of the children.<br>
[<a href="https://www.sefaria.org/II_Kings.2.23-24?lang=en&with=all&lang2=en#:~:text=From%20there%20he,of%20the%20children.">RJPS</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2%3A23-24&version=NIV">NIV</a> (2011 ed.)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[They say that God says to me, &#8220;Forgive your enemies.&#8221; I say, &#8220;I do;&#8221; but he says, &#8220;I will damn mine.&#8221; God should be consistent. If he wants me to forgive my enemies he should forgive his. I am asked to forgive enemies who can hurt me. God is only asked to forgive enemies who [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say that God says to me, &#8220;Forgive your enemies.&#8221; I say, &#8220;I do;&#8221; but he says, &#8220;I will damn mine.&#8221; God should be consistent. If he wants me to forgive my enemies he should forgive his. I am asked to forgive enemies who can hurt me. God is only asked to forgive enemies who cannot hurt him. He certainly ought to be as generous as he asks us to be. And I want no God to forgive me unless I am willing to forgive others, and unless I do forgive others. All I ask, if that be true, is that this God should act according to his own doctrine.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1884-01-20), &#8220;Orthodoxy,&#8221; Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Blink0004:~:text=They%20say%20that%20God%20says%20to%20me%2C%20%22Forgive%20your%20enemies.%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own &#8212; a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own &#8212; a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature.</p>
<br><b>Albert Einstein</b> (1879-1955) German-American physicist<br>&#8220;What I Believe,&#8221; <i>Forum and Century</i> (Oct 1930) 
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Einstein crafted and recrafted his credo multiple times in this period, and specifics are often muddled by differing translations and by his reuse of certain phrases in later writing. The <i>Forum and Century</i> entry appears to be the earliest. Some important variants:<br><br> 

<blockquote>I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither ca I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with they mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.<br><br>
— "The World As I See It <i>[Mein Weltbild]</i> [tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ideas_and_Opinions/9fJkBqwDD3sC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cannot%20conceive%20of%20a%20God%22&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover">Bargmann</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br><br>

<blockquote>I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. Enough for me the mystery of the eternity of life, and the inkling of the marvellous structure of reality, together with the single-hearted endeavor to comprehend a portion, be it never so tiny, of the reason that manifests itself in nature.<br><br>
— "The World As I See It <i>[Mein Weltbild]</i> [tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_World_as_I_See_It/Ved_DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20cannot%20conceive%20of%20a%20god%22&dq=einstein%20%22most%20beautiful%20experience%20we%20can%20have%22&pg=PT19&printsec=frontcover">Harris</a> (1934)]</blockquote><br><br>

<blockquote>To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all there is.<br><br>

<em>[Es ist mir genug, diese Geheimnisse staunend zu ahnen und zu versuchen, von der erhabenen Struktur des Seienden in Demut ein mattes Abbild geistig zu erfassen.]</em><br><br>

— <a href="https://www.einstein-website.de/z_biography/credo.html#table6:~:text=Es%20ist%20mir%20genug%2C%20diese%20Geheimnisse,ein%20mattes%20Abbild%20geistig%20zu%20erfassen.%22">Reduced variant</a> in "My Credo <i>Mein Glaubensbekenntnis]"</i> (Aug 1932)</blockquote>
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		<title>Publilius Syrus -- Sententiae [Moral Sayings], # 911</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whom Fortune wishes to destroy she first makes mad.</p>
<p><em>[Stultum facit fortuna, quem vult perdere.]</em> </p>
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<br><b>Publilius Syrus</b> (d. 42 BC) Assyrian slave, writer, philosopher [less correctly Publius Syrus]<br><i>Sententiae [Moral Sayings]</i>, # 911 
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<p>From an&nbsp;ancient Greek proverb (5th century BC or earlier)</p>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1881-05-01) &#8220;The Great Infidels,&#8221; Booth&#8217;s Theater, New York</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell? Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell?<br />
<span class="tab">Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1881-05-01) &#8220;The Great Infidels,&#8221; Booth&#8217;s Theater, New York 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why should she show mercy to a kind and noble heretic whom her God will burn in eternal fire? Why should a Christian be better than his God?</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Alink0006:~:text=Give%20any%20orthodox,than%20his%20God%3F" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible that an infinite Deity is unwilling that a man should investigate the phenomena by which he is surrounded? Is it possible that a god delights in threatening and terrifying men? What glory, what honor and renown a god must win on such a field! The ocean raving at a drop; a star [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that an infinite Deity is unwilling that a man should investigate the phenomena by which he is surrounded? Is it possible that a god delights in threatening and terrifying men? What glory, what honor and renown a god must win on such a field! The ocean raving at a drop; a star envious of a candle; the sun jealous of a fire-fly.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1874-05-03), &#8220;Heretics and Heresies,&#8221; Free Religious Society, Kingsbury Hall, Chicago 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38813/pg38813-images.html#Alink0006:~:text=Why%20should%20man%20be%20afraid%20to%20think%2C%20and%20why%20should%20he%20fear%20to%20express%20his%20thoughts%3F" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).
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		<title>Einstein, Albert -- Essay (1953-05-23), &#8220;Aphorisms for Leo Baeck [Neun Aphorismen], No. 8,  Essays Presented to Leo Baeck on the Occasion of His Eightieth Birthday (1954) [Einstein Archives 28-962]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. [Wer es unternimmt, auf dem Gebiet der Wahrheit und der Erkenntnis als Autoritat aufzutreten, scheitert am Gelachter der Gotter.] Leo Baeck (1873-1956) was a noted a German rabbi, scholar, and theologian. (Source (German)). Another [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.</p>
<p><em>[Wer es unternimmt, auf dem Gebiet der Wahrheit und der Erkenntnis als Autoritat aufzutreten, scheitert am Gelachter der Gotter.]</em></p>
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<br><b>Albert Einstein</b> (1879-1955) German-American physicist<br>Essay (1953-05-23), &#8220;Aphorisms for Leo Baeck <i>[Neun Aphorismen]</i>, No. 8,  <i>Essays Presented to Leo Baeck on the Occasion of His Eightieth Birthday</i> (1954) [Einstein Archives 28-962] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ideas_And_Opinions/vLm4oojTPnkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22whoever%20undertakes%22 " target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Baeck">Leo Baeck</a> (1873-1956) was a noted a German rabbi, scholar, and theologian.<br><br>

(<a href="https://archive.org/details/essayspresentedt0000vari/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22Wer+es+unternimmt%22">Source (German)</a>). Another translation:<br><br>

<blockquote>He who endeavors to present himself as an authority in matters of truth and cognition, will be wrecked by the laughter of the gods.<br>
[<a href="https://archive.org/details/arxiv-physics0507107/page/n1/mode/2up?q=%22authority+in+matters+of+truth+and+cognition%22">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>
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