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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only ambition is to obey. Full title &#8220;Arraignment of the Church and a Plea for Individuality.&#8221; Collected in The Gods and Other Lectures (1876).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only ambition is to obey.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society 
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Full title "<a href="https://conwayhallcollections.omeka.net/items/show/742">Arraignment of the Church and a Plea for Individuality</a>." <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/204/mode/2up?q=%22founded+upon+the+bible%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).						</span>
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		<title>Bierce, Ambrose -- &#8220;Redemption,&#8221; The Devil&#8217;s Dictionary (1911)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[REDEMPTION, n. Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sin, through their murder of the deity against whom they sinned. The doctrine of Redemption is the fundamental mystery of our holy religion, and whoso believeth in it shall not perish, but have everlasting life in which to try to understand it. Originally published in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">REDEMPTION, <i>n.</i> Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sin, through their murder of the deity against whom they sinned. The doctrine of Redemption is the fundamental mystery of our holy religion, and whoso believeth in it shall not perish, but have everlasting life in which to try to understand it.</p>
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<br><b>Ambrose Bierce</b> (1842-1914?) American writer and journalist<br>&#8220;Redemption,&#8221; <i>The Devil&#8217;s Dictionary</i> (1911) 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/unabridgeddevils00bier/page/376/mode/2up?q=%22redemption+redress%22">Originally published</a> in <i>The Devil's Dictionary</i> [A-Z] as Vol. 7 of his <i>Collected Works</i>.
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1877-06-23), &#8220;The Ghosts,&#8221; Carson Theater, Carson City, Nevada</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of immortality, that like a sea has ebbed and flowed in the human heart, with its countless waves of hope and fear, beating against the shores and rocks of time and fate, was not born of any book, nor of any creed, nor of any religion. It was born of human affection, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of immortality, that like a sea has ebbed and flowed in the human heart, with its countless waves of hope and fear, beating against the shores and rocks of time and fate, was not born of any book, nor of any creed, nor of any religion. It was born of human affection, and it will continue to ebb and flow beneath the mists and clouds of doubt and darkness as long as love kisses the lips of death. It is the rainbow — Hope shining upon the tears of grief.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1877-06-23), &#8220;The Ghosts,&#8221; Carson Theater, Carson City, Nevada 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/ghostsandotherle00ingeiala/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22idea+of+immortality+that+like%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Ghosts, and Other Lectures</i> (1878)						</span>
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		<title>Russell, Bertrand -- Conquest of Happiness, Part 1, ch.  2 &#8220;Byronic Unhappiness&#8221; (1930)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If one lived for ever the joys of life would inevitably in the end lose their savour. As it is, they remain perennially fresh.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one lived for ever the joys of life would inevitably in the end lose their savour. As it is, they remain perennially fresh.</p>
<br><b>Bertrand Russell</b> (1872-1970) English mathematician and philosopher<br><i>Conquest of Happiness</i>, Part 1, ch.  2 &#8220;Byronic Unhappiness&#8221; (1930) 
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		<title>Donne, John -- Holy Sonnets, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll. 13-14 (1609)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally, And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,<br />
And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.</p>
<br><b>John Donne</b> (1572-1631) English poet<br><i>Holy Sonnets</i>, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll. 13-14 (1609) 
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		<title>Thomas a Kempis -- The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi], Book 3, ch. 35, v.  3 (3.35.2) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Croft/Bolton (1940)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you look for rest in this life, how will you attain to everlasting rest? Dispose yourself, then, not for much rest but for great patience. &#160; [Si quæris in hac vita requiem: quomodo tunc pervenies ad æternam requiem? Non ponas te ad multam requiem, sed a magnam patientiam.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: If thou [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look for rest in this life, how will you attain to everlasting rest? Dispose yourself, then, not for much rest but for great patience.<br />
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<em>[Si quæris in hac vita requiem: quomodo tunc pervenies ad æternam requiem? Non ponas te ad multam requiem, sed a magnam patientiam.]</em></p>
<br><b>Thomas à Kempis</b> (c. 1380-1471) German-Dutch priest, author<br><i>The Imitation of Christ [De Imitatione Christi]</i>, Book 3, ch. 35, v.  3 (3.35.2) (c. 1418-27) [tr. Croft/Bolton (1940)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imb3c31-40.html#RTFToC226:~:text=If%20you%20look%20for%20rest%20in%20this%20life%2C%20how%20will%20you%20attain%20to%20everlasting%20rest%3F%20Dispose%20yourself%2C%20then%2C%20not%20for%20much%20rest%20but%20for%20great%20patience." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/kempis/kempis3.shtml#:~:text=Si%20qu%C3%A6ris%20in%20hac%20vita%20requiem%3A%20quomodo%20tunc%20pervenies%20ad%20%C3%A6ternam%20requiem%3F%20Non%20ponas%20te%20ad%20multam%20requiem%2C%20sed%20a%20magnam%20patientiam.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how then shalt thou come to the rest everlasting? Set not thyself to have rest here, but to have patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.219519/page/n227/mode/2up?q=%22If+thou+seek+rest%22">Whitford/Raynal</a> (1530/1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you seek rest in this life, how will you, then, come to everlasting rest? Do not determine to have rest here, but to have patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchri200thom/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22seek+rest%22">Whitford/Gardiner</a> (1530/1955)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this world, how wilt thou then attain to everlasting rest? Give not thy selfe to much ease, but to much patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A13699.0001.001/1:6.35?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=If%20thou%20seekest,to%20much%20patience.">Page</a> (1639), 3.35.6]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>If then these are the Conditions of thy Obedience and Reward, think how absurd it, for them  who indulge their Ease here, to expect Peace and Happiness hereafter. In one of the two States Enduring must be thy Lot; and therefore tough Patience, and not soft Repose, is what thou should'st labour for at present.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/christianspatte00thomgoog/page/n235/mode/2up?q=%22If+then+thefe+ar%5E+the+Conditions%22">Stanhope</a> (1696; 1706 ed.), 3.40]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this life, how wilt thou attain to the everlasting rest of the life to come?  Thou must prepare thy heart for the exercise of many and great troubles, not for the enjoyment of continual rest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationchrist01kempgoog/page/n200/mode/2up?q=%22If+thou+feekeft+reft%22">Payne</a> (1803), 3.27.8]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how wilt thou then attain to the everlasting Rest? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for great patience.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_0/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22thou+seek+rest%22">Parker</a> (1841)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It thou seekest rest in this life, how wilt thou attain to the everlasting rest of the life to come? Thou must not merely rest, but prepare thy heart for far greater patience and resignation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Of_the_Imitation_of_Jesus_Christ/qBZwsQJdQ2QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22attain%20to%20the%20everlasting%20reft%22">Dibdin</a> (1851), 3.31.2]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seekest rest in this life, how then wilt thou come to the rest everlasting? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for much patience.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/ofimitationofchr00thom_2/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22if+thou+seekest+rest%22">Bagster</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how then wilt thou attain unto the rest which is eternal? Set not thyself to attain much rest, but much patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1653/pg1653-images.html#chap72:~:text=If%20thou%20seek%20rest%20in%20this%20life%2C%20how%20then%20wilt%20thou%20attain%20unto%20the%20rest%20which%20is%20eternal%3F%20Set%20not%20thyself%20to%20attain%20much%20rest%2C%20but%20much%20patience.">Benham</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If thou seek rest in this life, how wilt thou then attain to the everlasting rest? Dispose not thyself for much rest, but for great patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_the_Imitation_of_Christ/Book_III/Chapter_XXXV#:~:text=If%20thou%20seek,for%20great%20patience.">Anon.</a> (1901)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you search after rest in this life, how then will you come through to an everlasting rest? Do not set out for much in the way of rest, but for suffering that costs. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_r2o4/page/104/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+search+after+rest%22">Daplyn</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you look for rest in this life, how can you attain eternal rest? Dispose yourself not to rest, but to patient endurance.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris00sher/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+look+for+rest%22">Sherley-Price</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you try to find rest in this world, how will you ever reach that rest which is life everlasting? It is not long hours of rest you must be prepared for here, but for long hours of patient endurance.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris00knox/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+try+to+find+rest%22">Knox-Oakley</a> (1959)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you are looking for rest in this life, how will you ever reach the everlasting rest at the end? It is not rest you must expect, but suffering.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000thom_o4e9/page/166/mode/2up?q=%22if+you+are+looking+for%22">Knott</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You may seek rest in this life. How then will you gain rest in everlasting life? Do not expect great rest. Expect much suffering instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/imitationofchris0000unse_e5i0/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22you+may+seek+rest%22">Rooney</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you seek rest in this life, how do you expect to come to eternal rest? Do not make frequent rest your goal but great patience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Imitation_of_Christ/JI7AA0GAbUgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22seek%20rest%20in%20this%20life%22">Creasy</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- &#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we love we will hope to live, and when the one dies that we love we will say: &#8220;Oh, that we could meet again,&#8221; and whether we do or not it will not be the work of theology. It will be a fact in nature. I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>&#8220;What Must We Do To Be Saved?&#8221; Sec. 11 (1880) 
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had rather live and love where death is king, than have eternal life where love is not. Another life is nought, unless we know and love again the ones who love us here. Eulogy at the burial of Harry Miller.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had rather live and love where death is king, than have eternal life where love is not. Another life is nought, unless we know and love again the ones who love us here.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Speech (1882-01-08), &#8220;At a Child&#8217;s Grave,&#8221; Congressional Cemetery, Washington, D. C. 
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Eulogy at the burial of Harry Miller.						</span>
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		<title>Donne, John -- Holy Sonnets, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll.  1-4 (1609)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Death be not proud, though some have callèd thee Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so, For, those, whom thou think&#8217;st, thou dost overthrow, Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death be not proud, though some have callèd thee<br />
Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,<br />
For, those, whom thou think&#8217;st, thou dost overthrow,<br />
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.</p>
<br><b>John Donne</b> (1572-1631) English poet<br><i>Holy Sonnets</i>, No. 10, &#8220;Death Be Not Proud,&#8221; ll.  1-4 (1609) 
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