WIST Quotations

Howell, James -- Paroimiographia [Παροιμιογραφία]: Proverbs, or, Old Sayed Sawes & Adages, “English Proverbs” (1659) [compiler]

Dave — Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:27:26 +0000

He that wrestleth with a turd shall be beshitt fall he over or under.

James Howell (c. 1594–1666) Welsh historian and writer
Paroimiographia [Παροιμιογραφία]: Proverbs, or, Old Sayed Sawes & Adages, “English Proverbs” (1659) [compiler]
(Source)

Franklin, Benjamin -- Poor Richard (1740 ed.)

Dave — Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:26:24 +0000

Those who in quarrels interpose,
Must often wipe a bloody nose.

Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist
Poor Richard (1740 ed.)
(Source)

Borrowed (without attribution) from John Gay (1727).

Roosevelt, Theodore -- Speech (1910-04-23), “Citizenship in a Republic [The Man in the Arena],” Sorbonne, Paris

Dave — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 18:39:52 +0000

Every honorable effort should always be made to avoid war, just as every honorable effort should always be made by the individual in private life to keep out of a brawl, to keep out of trouble; but no self-respecting individual, no self-respecting nation, can or ought to submit to wrong.

Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919) American politician, statesman, conservationist, writer, US President (1901–1909)
Speech (1910-04-23), “Citizenship in a Republic [The Man in the Arena],” Sorbonne, Paris
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Barrie, James -- Peter Pan, Act 5 (1904, pub. 1928)

Dave — Tue, 21 Jan 2025 20:44:33 +0000

HOOK: (with curling lip) So, Pan, this is all your doing!

PETER: Ay, Jas Hook, it is all my doing.

HOOK: Proud and insolent youth, prepare to meet thy doom.

PETER: Dark and sinister man, have at thee.

J. M. Barrie (1860-1937) Scottish novelist and dramatist [James Matthew Barrie]
Peter Pan, Act 5 (1904, pub. 1928)

In Barrie's novelization, Peter and Wendy, ch. 15 "Hook Or Me This Time" (1911), this is rendered:

“So, Pan,” said Hook at last, “this is all your doing.”
“Ay, James Hook,” came the stern answer, “it is all my doing.”
“Proud and insolent youth,” said Hook, “prepare to meet thy doom.”
“Dark and sinister man,” Peter answered, “have at thee.”

Shakespeare, William -- Macbeth, Act 5, sc. 8, l. 38ff (5.8.38-39) (1606)

Dave — Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:26:31 +0000

MACBETH: Lay on, Macduff,
And damned be him that first cries “Hold! Enough!”

William Shakespeare (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet
Macbeth, Act 5, sc. 8, l. 38ff (5.8.38-39) (1606)
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McFee, William -- Casuals of the Sea, Book 2, ch. 2 (1916)

Dave — Fri, 28 May 2021 14:34:45 +0000

If fate means you to lose, give him a good fight anyhow.

William McFee (1881-1966) English writer
Casuals of the Sea, Book 2, ch. 2 (1916)
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Longfellow, Henry Wadsworth -- “Table-Talk”

Dave — Fri, 07 May 2021 16:39:51 +0000

A great part of the happiness of life consists not in fighting battles but in avoiding them. A masterly retreat is in itself a victory.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882) American poet
“Table-Talk”
(Source)

Malory, Thomas -- Le Morte d’Arthur, Book 10, ch. 56 (1485)

Dave — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:45:27 +0000

“Why,” said La Belle Isode,”are ye a knight and are no lover? For sooth, it is a great shame to you; wherefore ye may not be called a good knight by reason but if ye make a quarrel for a lady.”

Thomas Malory (c. 1415-1471) English writer
Le Morte d’Arthur, Book 10, ch. 56 (1485)
(Source)

Often paraphrased, "The very purpose of a knight is to fight on behalf of a lady."

Homer -- The Iliad [Ἰλιάς], Book 5, l. 407ff (5.407-409) (c. 750 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1974), l. 467ff]

Dave — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 18:20:05 +0000

Idiot, not to know
his days are numbered who would fight the gods!
His children will not sing around his knees
“Papà! Papà!” on his return from war.

Ὅττι μάλ’ οὐ δηναιὸς ὃς ἀθανάτοισι μάχηται,
οὐδέ τί μιν παῖδες ποτὶ γούνασι παππάζουσιν
ἐκ πολέμοιο καὶ αἰνῆς δηϊοτῆτος.

Homer (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author
The Iliad [Ἰλιάς], Book 5, l. 407ff (5.407-409) (c. 750 BC) [tr. Fitzgerald (1974), l. 467ff]
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Alt. trans.:

Not knowing he that fights with Heav’n hath never long to live,
And for this deed, he never shall have child about his knee
To call him father, coming home.
[tr. Chapman (1611), ll. 387-89]

No man who fights with gods will live long or hear his children prattling about his knees when he returns from battle.
[tr. Butler (1898)]

Know thou, whoe'er with heavenly power contends,
Short is his date, and soon his glory ends;
From fields of death when late he shall retire,
No infant on his knees shall call him sire.
[tr. Pope (1715-20)]

Infatuate! he forgets
That whoso turns against the Gods his arm
Lives never long; he never, safe escaped
From furious fight, the lisp’d caresses hears
Of his own infants prattling at his knees.
[tr. Cowper (1791), ll. 474-78]

Infatuate! nor does the son of Tydeus know this in his mind, that he is by no means long-lived who fights with the immortals, nor ever at his knees will sons lisp a father’s name, as he returns from war and dreadful battle.
[tr. Buckley (1860)]

Unknowing he how short his term of life
Who fights against the Gods! for him no child
Upon his knee shall lisp a father's name,
Safe from the war and battle-field return'd.
[tr. Derby (1864), ll. 463-466]

Verily he endureth not for long who fighteth with the immortals, nor do his children prattle about his knees when he is come back from war and the dread conflict.
[tr. Murray (1924)]

That man who fights the immortals lives for no long time, his children do not gather to his knees to welcome their father when he returns home after the fighting and the bitter warfare.
[tr. Lattimore (1951)]

Doesn't the son of Tydeus know, down deep,
the man who fights the gods does not live long?
Nor do his children ride his knees with cries of 'Father' --
home at last from the wars and heat of battle.
[tr. Fagles (1990), ll. 465-468]

Lewis, C.S. -- The Horse and His Boy (1954)

Dave — Wed, 12 Oct 2016 02:47:48 +0000

Aravis also had many quarrels (and, I’m afraid even fights) with Cor, but they always made it up again: so that years later, when they were grown up they were so used to quarreling and making it up again that they got married so as to go on doing it more conveniently.

C. S. Lewis (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
The Horse and His Boy (1954)

Nicoll, James -- “OTT: If ye break faith with us who die,” rec.arts.sf.written, Usenet (27 Apr 2006)

Dave — Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:46:57 +0000

It demonstrated that old adage: never bring a gun to a fight where the other guy has a time-machine and tomorrow’s newspapers.

James Nicoll (b. 1961) Canadian reviewer, editor
“OTT: If ye break faith with us who die,” rec.arts.sf.written, Usenet (27 Apr 2006)
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De Stael, Germaine -- Corinne, Book 10, ch. 5 (1807)

Dave — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:04:52 +0000

A religious life is a struggle and not a hymn.

Germaine de Staël (1766-1817) Swiss-French writer, woman of letters, critic, salonist [Anne Louise Germaine de Staël-Holstein, Madame de Staël, Madame Necker]
Corinne, Book 10, ch. 5 (1807)

Brooks, Richard -- Deadline: U.S.A. [film] (1952)

Dave — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:02 +0000

If it was a worthwhile fight, it didn’t matter who won; some good was sure to come of it.

Richard Brooks (1912-1992) American screenwriter, film director, novelist
Deadline: U.S.A. [film] (1952)

Line spoken by Ethyl Barrymore.

Ruskin, John -- The Two Paths, Lecture 5 (1859)

Dave — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:11:17 +0000

You may either win your peace or buy it: win it, by resistance to evil; buy it, by compromise with evil.

John Ruskin (1819-1900) English art critic, painter, writer, social thinker
The Two Paths, Lecture 5 (1859)

Butcher, Jim -- Fool Moon (2001)

Dave — Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:46:17 +0000

It isn’t enough to stand up and fight darkness. You’ve got to stand apart from it, too. You’ve got to be different from it.

Jim Butcher (b. 1971) American author
Fool Moon (2001)

Gandhi, Mohandas -- In Young India (17 Jun 1926)

Dave — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:20:46 +0000

Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone.

Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Indian lawyer, anti-colonial nationalist, political ethicist [Mahatma Gandhi]
In Young India (17 Jun 1926)

Byron, George Gordon, Lord -- Don Juan, Canto 8, st. 77 (1823)

Dave — Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:11:52 +0000

‘Twas blow for blow, disputing inch by inch,
For one would not retreat, nor t’other flinch.

George Gordon, Lord Byron (1788-1824) English poet
Don Juan, Canto 8, st. 77 (1823)
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Lichtenberg, Georg C. -- Aphorisms, Notebook L, #85, p. 705 (1796-99) [tr. Hollingdale (1990)

Dave — Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:42:58 +0000

Is it not strange that men are so keen to fight for a religion and so unkeen to live according to its precepts?

Georg C. Lichtenberg (1742-1799) German physicist, writer
Aphorisms, Notebook L, #85, p. 705 (1796-99) [tr. Hollingdale (1990)
(Source)

Alternate translation: "Is it not peculiar that men are so glad to fight for religion and so reluctant to live according to its precepts?" [tr. Tester (2012)]

Twain, Mark -- (Misattributed)

Dave — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:52:54 +0000

It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.

Mark Twain (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]
(Misattributed)

Scholarly research finds no actual connection between Twain and the origin of this phrase. It appears to have been first crafted by columnist Arthur G. Lewis, Book of the Royal Blue Magazine (1911-04):

It is not the size of the dog in the fight that counts, but the fight in the dog that wins.

For more discussion of the origins and variations, see Quote Origin: It’s Not the Size of the Dog in the Fight, It’s the Size of the Fight in the Dog – Quote Investigator®.

Lincoln, Abraham -- Letter (1863-10-26) to J. M. Cutts

Dave — Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:26:39 +0000

The advice of a father to his son “Beware of entrance to a quarrel, but being in, bear it that the opposed may beware of thee,” is good, and yet not the best. Quarrel not at all. No man resolved to make the most of himself can spare time for personal contention. Still less can he afford to take all the consequences, including the vitiating of his temper and loss of self control. Yield larger things to which you can show no more than equal right; and yield lesser ones, though clearly your own. Better give your path to a dog than be bitten by him in contesting for the right. Even killing the dog would not cure the bite.

Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)
Letter (1863-10-26) to J. M. Cutts
(Source)

Never actually sent as a letter; likely conveyed in a personal reprimand interview with Cutts. The interesting story of Cutts' court-martial can be found here.

Billings, Josh -- Everybody’s Friend, Or; Josh Billing’s Encyclopedia and Proverbial Philosophy of Wit and Humor, ch. 148 “Affurisms: Ink Brats” (1874)

Dave — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:31:44 +0000

I don’t beleave in fighting; i am solemly aginst it; but if a man gits teu fighting, i am also solemly aginst hiz gitting licked. After a fight iz once opened, all the virtew thare iz in it iz tew lick the other party.

[I don’t believe in fighting; I am solemnly against it; but if a man gets to fighting, I am also solemnly against his getting licked. After a fight is once opened, all the virtue there is in it is to lick the other party.]

Josh Billings (1818-1885) American humorist, aphorist [pseud. of Henry Wheeler Shaw]
Everybody’s Friend, Or; Josh Billing’s Encyclopedia and Proverbial Philosophy of Wit and Humor, ch. 148 “Affurisms: Ink Brats” (1874)
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Mann, Horace -- Baccalaureate address, Antioch College, Ohio (1859)

Dave — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:34:13 +0000

Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity.

Horace Mann (1796-1859) American politician, abolitionist, education reformer
Baccalaureate address, Antioch College, Ohio (1859)

Final public address.

Straczynski, J. Michael "Joe" -- Babylon 5, 3×13 “A Late Delivery from Avalon” (22 Apr 1996)

Dave — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:00:00 +0000

G’KAR: By G’Quon I can’t recall the last time I was in a fight like that! No moral ambiguity, no hopeless battle against ancient and overwhelming forces. They were the bad guys, as you say, and we were the good guys! And they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor!

J. Michael (Joe) Straczynski (b. 1954) American screenwriter, producer, author [a/k/a "JMS"]
Babylon 5, 3×13 “A Late Delivery from Avalon” (22 Apr 1996)

Adler, Alfred -- (Attributed)

Dave — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:00:00 +0000

It is always easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.

Alfred Adler (1870-1937) Austrian psychologist
(Attributed)
(Source)

Comment to friend (1927). In Phyllis Bottome, Alfred Adler: A Biography, ch. 5 (1939)

Inge, William Ralph -- “Patriotism,” Outspoken Essays: First Series (1915)

Dave — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:00:00 +0000

But it must be remembered that, in spite of the proverb, it takes in reality only one to make a quarrel. It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism, while the wolf remains of a different opinion.

William Ralph Inge (1860-1954) English prelate [Dean Inge]
“Patriotism,” Outspoken Essays: First Series (1915)

Sometimes quoted as "while wolves remain of a different opinion."

Gay, John -- Fables, “The Mastiffs,” pt. 1, ll. 1-2 (1727)

Dave — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:00:00 +0000

Those who in quarrels interpose
Must often wipe a bloody nose.

John Gay (1685-1732) English poet and playwright
Fables, “The Mastiffs,” pt. 1, ll. 1-2 (1727)
(Source)

Borrowed (without attribution) by Franklin (1740).