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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of these gods, according to the account, drowned an entire world, with the exception of eight persons. The old, the young, the beautiful and the helpless were remorsely devoured by the shoreless sea. This, the most fearful tragedy that the imagination of ignorant priests ever conceived, was the act, not of a devil, but of a god, so-called, whom men ignorantly worship unto this day. </p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833–1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1872-01-29), &#8220;The Gods,&#8221; Fairbury Hall, Fairbury, Illinois 
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First given on the 135th birthday of Thomas Paine. <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22one+of+these+gods+according%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876).

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		<title>Bierce, Ambrose -- &#8220;Deluge,&#8221; The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book (1906)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[DELUGE, n. A notable first experiment in baptism which washed away the sins (and sinners) of the world. Included in The Devil&#8217;s Dictionary (1911). Originally published in the &#8220;Devil&#8217;s Dictionary&#8221; column in the San Francisco Wasp (1882-01-20). The original Wasp entry included a second sentence: &#8220;Since then it has been deemed advisable to let the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DELUGE, <em>n.</em> A notable first experiment in baptism which washed away the sins (and sinners) of the world.</p>
<br><b>Ambrose Bierce</b> (1842–1914?) American writer and journalist<br>&#8220;Deluge,&#8221; <i>The Cynic&#8217;s Word Book</i> (1906) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43951/43951-h/43951-h.htm#link2H_4_0005:~:text=DELUGE%2C%20n.%20A%20notable%20first%20experiment%20in%20baptism%20which%20washed%20away%20the%20sins%20(and%20sinners)%20of%20the%20world." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Dictionary/D#:~:text=DELUGE%2C%20n.%20A%20notable%20first%20experiment%20in%20baptism%20which%20washed%20away%20the%20sins%20(and%20sinners)%20of%20the%20world.">Included</a> in <i>The Devil's Dictionary</i> (1911). <a href="https://archive.org/details/unabridgeddevils00bier/page/358/mode/2up?q=%22deluge+delusion%22">Originally published</a> in the "Devil's Dictionary" column in the San Francisco <i>Wasp</i> (1882-01-20).<br><br>

The original <i>Wasp</i> entry included <a href="https://archive.org/details/unabridgeddevils00bier/page/290/mode/2up?q=deluge">a second sentence</a>: "Since then it has been deemed advisable to let the sinners remain on their good behavior."						</span>
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		<title>Sophocles -- Antigone, l.  710ff [Haemon] (441 BC) [tr. Fagles (1982), l. 794ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it&#8217;s no disgrace for a man, even a wise man, to learn many things and not to be too rigid. You&#8217;ve seen trees by a raging winter torrent, how many sway with the flood and salvage every twig, but not the stubborn &#8212; they&#8217;re ripped out, roots and all. [ἀλλ᾽ ἄνδρα, κεἴ τις ᾖ [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No,<br />
it&#8217;s no disgrace for a man, even a wise man,<br />
to learn many things and not to be too rigid.<br />
You&#8217;ve seen trees by a raging winter torrent,<br />
how many sway with the flood and salvage every twig,<br />
but not the stubborn &#8212; they&#8217;re ripped out, roots and all.</p>
<p>[ἀλλ᾽ ἄνδρα, κεἴ τις ᾖ σοφός, τὸ μανθάνειν<br />
πόλλ᾽, αἰσχρὸν οὐδὲν καὶ τὸ μὴ τείνειν ἄγαν.<br />
ὁρᾷς παρὰ ῥείθροισι χειμάρροις ὅσα<br />
δένδρων ὑπείκει, κλῶνας ὡς ἐκσῴζεται,<br />
τὰ δ᾽ ἀντιτείνοντ᾽ αὐτόπρεμν᾽ ἀπόλλυται.]</p>
<br><b>Sophocles</b> (496–406 BC) Greek tragic playwright<br><i>Antigone</i>, l.  710ff [Haemon] (441 BC) [tr. Fagles (1982), l. 794ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Three_Theban_Plays/IeBg8fWUmY4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=antigone%20fagles&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22disgrace%20for%20a%20man%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0185%3Acard%3D681">Ancient Greek</a>. Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>But that a man, how wise soe'er, should learn<br>
In many things and slack his stubborn will,<br>
This is no derogation. When the streams<br>
Are swollen by mountain-torrents, thou hast seen<br>
That all the trees wich bend them to the flood<br>
Preserve their branches from the angry current,<br>
While those which stem it perish root and branch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Antigone_of_Sophocles_in_Greek_and_E/HMQNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA69&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22But%20that%20a%20man%22">Donaldson</a> (1848)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The wisest man will let himself be swayed<br>
By others' wisdom and relax in time.<br>
See how the trees beside a stream in flood<br>
Save, if they yield to force, each spray unharmed,<br>
But by resisting perish root and branch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31/31-h/31-h.htm#linkantigone:~:text=The%20wisest%20man%20will%20let%20himself,by%20resisting%20perish%20root%20and%20branch.">Campbell</a> (1873)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis no disgrace even to the wise to learn<br>
And lend an ear to reason. You may see<br>
The plant that yields where torrent waters flow<br>
Saves every little twig, when the stout tree<br>
Is torn away and dies.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.loyalbooks.com/download/text/Electra-Sophocles.txt#:~:text='Tis%20no%20disgrace%20even%20to%20the,Is%20torn%20away%20and%20dies.">Storr</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, even when a man is wise, it brings him no shame to learn many things, and not to be too rigid. You see how the trees that stand beside the torrential streams created by a winter storm yield to it and save their branches, while the stiff and rigid perish root and all?<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0186%3Acard%3D681#text_main:~:text=No%2C%20even%20when%20a%20man%20is,and%20rigid%20perish%20root%20and%20all%3F">Jebb</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>True wisdom will be ever glad to learn,<br>
And not too fond of power. Observe the trees,<br>
That bend to wintry torrents, how their boughs<br>
Unhurt remain; while those that brave the storm,<br>
Uprooted torn, shall wither and decay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/7HVQAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22True%20wisdom%20will%20be%20ever%22">Werner</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, though a man be wise, 'tis no shame for him to learn many things, and to bend in season. Seest thou, beside the wintry torrent's course, how the trees that yield to it save every twig, while the stiff-necked perish root and branch?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Sophocles_(Jebb_1917)/Antigone">Jebb</a> (1917)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is not reason never to yield to reason!<br>
In flood time you can see how some trees bend,<br>
And because they bend, even their twigs are safe,<br>
While stubborn trees are torn up, roots and all<br>
[tr. <a href="https://mthoyibi.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/antigone_2.pdf">Fitts/Fitzgerald</a> (1939), l. 570ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is no weakness for the wisest man<br>
To learn when he is wrong, know when to yield.<br>
So, on the margin of a flooded river<br>
Trees bending to the torrent live unbroken,<br>
While those that strain against it are snapped off.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://images.pcmac.org/SiSFiles/Schools/PA/GreenvilleArea/GreenvilleJrSrHigh/Uploads/DocumentsSubCategories/Documents/Antigone--E.F._Watling_1.pdf">Watling</a> (1947), l. 608ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A man, though wise, should never be ashamed<br>
of learning more, and must unbend his mind.<br>
Have you not seen the trees beside the torrent,<br>
the ones that bend them saving every leaf,<br>
while the resistant perish root and branch?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/docs/SOPHOCLES_ANTIGONE_(AS08).PDF">Wyckoff</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There's no disgrace, even if one is wise,<br>
In learning more, and knowing when to yield.<br>
See how the trees that grow beside a torrent<br>
Preserve their branches, if they bend; the others,<br>
Those that resist, are torn out, root and branch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone_Oedipus_the_King_Electra/I9Ely1BXWAQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR56&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22There's%20no%20disgrace%22">Kitto</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But a wise man can learn a lot and never be ashamed;<br>
He knows he does not have to be rigid and close-hauled.<br>
You've seen trees tossed by a torrent in a flash flood:<br>
If they bend, they're saved, and every twig survives,<br>
But if they stiffen up, they're washed out from the roots.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/4180HoH81RgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover&bsq=710">Woodruff</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But for a man, even if he is wise, to go on learning<br>
many things and not to be drawn too taut is no shame. <br>
You see how along streams swollen from winter floods <br>
some trees yield and save their twigs, <br>
but others resist and perish, root and branch. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/sophocles-antigone/#post-1273:~:text=But%20for%20a%20man%2C%20even%20if,resist%20and%20perish%2C%20root%20and%20branch.">Tyrell/Bennett</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>On the contrary, it is no shame for even a wise man to continue learning. Nor should a man be obstinate. One can see the trees on the heavy river-banks. Those that bend with the rushing current, survive, whereas those bent against it are torn, roots and all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Antigone.php#content:~:text=On%20the%20contrary%2C%20it%20is%20no,it%20are%20torn%2C%20roots%20and%20all.">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For any man,<br>                                                                     
even if he’s wise, there’s nothing shameful<br>
in learning many things, staying flexible.<br>
You notice how in winter floods the trees<br>
which bend before the storm preserve their twigs.<br>
The ones who stand against it are destroyed,<br>
root and branch.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://johnstoi.web.viu.ca//sophocles/antigone.htm#:~:text=For%20any%20man%2C,root%20and%20branch.">Johnston</a> (2005), l. 804ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, it's no disgrace for a man, even a wise man, to learn many things and not to be too rigid. You see how, in the winter storms, the trees yield that save even their twigs, but those who oppose it are destroyed root and branch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Three_Theban_Plays/IeBg8fWUmY4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=antigone%20fagles&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22no%20disgrace%20for%20a%20man%22">Thomas</a> (2005)]</blockquote>



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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Some Mistakes of Moses, Sec. 18 &#8220;Dampness&#8221; (1879)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why does this same God tell me how to raise my children when he had to drown his?</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833–1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br><i>Some Mistakes of Moses</i>, Sec. 18 &#8220;Dampness&#8221; (1879) 
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