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		<title>Roosevelt, Eleanor -- Column (1942-08), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; Ladies&#8217; Home Journal, Vol. 59</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. Should we discourage children from playing war games? A. We might wish to discourage them, but it would be utterly useless at the present time, so we might as well give in gracefully and try to see that when war games are played they teach the lessons which we wish our children to learn [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Q. Should we discourage children from playing war games?</em></p>
<p>A. We might wish to discourage them, but it would be utterly useless at the present time, so we might as well give in gracefully and try to see that when war games are played they teach the lessons which we wish our children to learn — ­fair play, magnanimity in victory, courage in defeat and no hatred of peoples.</p>
<br><b>Eleanor Roosevelt</b> (1884–1962) American politician, diplomat, activist; First Lady of the US (1933–45)<br>Column (1942-08), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; <i>Ladies&#8217; Home Journal</i>, Vol. 59 
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		<title>Euripides -- Auge [Αὐγῃ], frag. 272 [Heracles] (c. 408 BC) [tr. Collard/Cropp (2008)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who does not take pleasure in childish toys? [τίς δ᾽ οὐχὶ χαίρει νηπίοις ἀθύρμασιν] Nauck frag. 272, Barnes frag. 20, Musgrave frag. 5. (Source (Greek)). Other translations: Who is not pleas&#8217;d with children&#8217;s harmless sports? [tr. Wodhall (1809)] Who does not find delight in childish amusements? [Source]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who does not take pleasure in childish toys?</p>
<p>[τίς δ᾽ οὐχὶ χαίρει νηπίοις ἀθύρμασιν]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Auge</i> [Αὐγῃ], frag. 272 [Heracles] (c. 408 BC) [tr. Collard/Cropp (2008)] 
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/tragicorumgraeco00naucuoft/page/438/mode/2up?q=%228%CE%90%CE%BF%CE%99%29.+%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%BF%CE%93.+78%2C+4%3A%22">Nauck frag. 272</a>, Barnes frag. 20, Musgrave frag. 5. (<a href="https://classicalstudies.org/blogs/greek-teaching#:~:text=%CF%84%CE%AF%CF%82%20%CE%B4%E2%80%99%20%CE%BF%E1%BD%90%CF%87%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%81%CE%B5%CE%B9%20%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%80%CE%AF%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%82%20%E1%BC%80%CE%B8%CF%8D%CF%81%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%3B">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Who is not pleas'd with children's harmless sports?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/n390/mode/2up?q=%22children%27s+harmless+sports%22">Wodhall</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who does not find delight in childish amusements?<br>
[<a href="https://classicalstudies.org/blogs/greek-teaching#:~:text=Who%20does%20not%20find%20delight%20in%20childish%20amusements%3F">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age], ch. 16 / sec. 58 (16.58) (44 BC) [tr. Falconer (1923)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let others, then, have their weapons, their horses and their spears, their fencing-foils, and games of ball, their swimming contests and foot-races, and out of many sports leave us old fellows our dice and knuckle-bones. Or take away the dice-box, too, if you will, since old age can be happy without it. [Sibi habeant igitur [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let others, then, have their weapons, their horses and their spears, their fencing-foils, and games of ball, their swimming contests and foot-races, and out of many sports leave us old fellows our dice and knuckle-bones. Or take away the dice-box, too, if you will, since old age can be happy without it.</p>
<p><em>[Sibi habeant igitur arma, sibi equos, sibi hastas, sibi clavam et pilam, sibi natationes atque cursus; nobis senibus ex lusionibus multis talos relinquant et tesseras; id ipsum ut lubebit, quoniam sine eis beata esse senectus potest.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106–43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Senectute [Cato Maior; On Old Age]</i>, ch. 16 / sec. 58 (16.58) (44 BC) [tr. Falconer (1923)] 
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The actual gaming objects for old folk that Cicero refers to were the <em>talus</em> (a long four-sided die) and the <em>tessera</em> (a six-sided die). Various games were played rolling these, on their own or together. <br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0038%3Asection%3D57#:~:text=sibi%20habeant%20igitur%20arma%2C">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Yong men have for them for theyr solas & worship, their armours, their horsys, their speris, pollaxis mallys, and Instrumentys of iren, or of leed, and launcegayes for to fyght. And also maryners in vsyng the see and yong men deliten in shippys bargys of dyvers fassions and in rowynges and in sayllyng in watirs and ryvers and in the sees, and som yong men usen the cours of voyages in gooyng rydyng and iourneyeng from one counttre to anothir, and emong many othir labours of playes sportys and of dyvers solacys. The yong men also levyn to the use of olde men the playe at the tablis and chesse and the philosophers playe by nombre of arsmetrike as is made mencion in the boke of O∣vide de vetula callid the reformacion of his life. But we demaunde the Caton, if the olde men may goodly use and when we be olde of thies two said playes of the tablis and chesse, I answere you nay, for withoute thies two playes ol̄de age may wele be stuffid and fulfillyd of alle othir goodnes perteynyng to felicite and to blessidnesse. Now it is so that olde age and yche othir age usyng of discression ought not to doo any thyng, but that it drawe and be longe to vertues and to blessidnesse in stede of playes at tables and at chesses.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A69111.0001.001?rgn=main;view=fulltext#:~:text=yong%20men%20haue,and%20at%20chesses">Worcester/Worcester/Scrope</a> (1481)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us therefore bid adieu to all such youthly pranks and exercises as lusty and green-headed gallants, agitated and pricked with the fervent heat of unadvised adolescence, do enure themselves withal: God speed them well with their usual disports and dalliance; let them take to themselves their armour, weapons, and artillery; let us permit and give them good leave to daunt fierce horses and with spears in rest to mount on courageous coursers; let them handle the pike, toss the javelin and club daily, and play at the tennis, exercise themselves with running, swimming, and such-like deeds of activity and nimbleness. To us old men among all their other games and pastimes, let them leave the tables, the chance-bone or dice, and the chess, which without any danger or sore straining of the body may be practiced. And yet I will not seem to allow these last-named games further than every man himself is disposed, because they be not necessary, and old age may without them be blessed and fortunate. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosbooksfri00harrgoog/page/n152/mode/2up?q=javelin">Newton</a> (1569)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Therefore young men have their weapons, their horses, their speares, their swimming, the ball, the club, and their races, and they leave to us old men the cards and the tables which we sometimes use when we list; for age may be right happy without them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A33149.0001.001/1:4.16?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=therefore%20young%20men%20have%20their%20weapons%2C%20their%20horses%2C%20their%20speares%2C%20their%20swimming%2C%20the%20ball%2C%20the%20club%2C%20and%20their%20races%2C%20and%20they%20leave%20to%20us%20old%20men%20the%20cards%20and%20the%20tables%20which%20we%20sometimes%20use%20when%20we%20list%3B%20for%20age%20may%20be%20right%20happy%20without%20them.">Austin</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let those of younger Years take to themselves all the Diversions of their several sorts of Gaming, Fencing, Racing, or Bathing can afford them: leave us to our Chesse-boards, and our Tables; and yet we are not solicitous even for those, since the Happiness of old Age does not depend on them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_a_Dialogue/-DVcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Fencing,%20Racing%22">Hemming</a> (1716)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let therefore the young have their Arms, Horse, Spears, Lances, Balls, Baths, and Races; and of their many Diversions, leave to us the Cards and the Tables, to make use of just when we please; for Old Age can be happy without them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cato_Major_Or_Marcus_Tullius_Cicero_s_Tr/dehhAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Spears,%20Lances%22">J. D.</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To others therefore we can freely resign all other Diversions, in Arms and Horses, with their military Exercises, and all their Accoutrements, their Tennis, and every other Sport; only, if they please, they may leave us Checquers and Tables; or even these also we can give up; since Old Age can be very easy and very happy without any such trifling Amusements.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=evans;c=evans;idno=N04335.0001.001;node=N04335.0001.001:5.16;seq=1;rgn=div2;view=text#:~:text=To%20others%20therefore,such%20trifling%20Amusements.">Logan</a> (1744)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In respect to the peculiar articles of rural diversions, let those of a more firm and vigorous age enjoy the robust sports which are suitable to that season of life; let them exert their manly strength and address in darting the javelin, or contending in the race; in wielding the bat, or throwing the ball; in riding, or in swimming; but let them, out of the abundance of their many other recreations, resign to us old fellows the sedentary games of chance. Yet if they think proper even in these to reserve to themselves an exckisive right, I shall not controvert their claim; they are amusements by no means essential to a philosophic old age.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/oldageandfriends00ciceuoft/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22peculiar+articles+of+rural%22">Melmoth</a> (1773)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Therefore let them keep to themselves their arms, horses, spears, cudgel, ball, swimming, and running; and let them leave to us old men, out of so many sports, our astragals and dice; and that very thing whether it shall be to our mind, since old age can be happy without these things.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_on_Old_Age_Literally_Translated_E/OKb5knapj7IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22horses,%20spears%22">Cornish Bros.</a> ed. (1847)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let the young, therefore, keep to themselves their arms, horses, spears, clubs, tennis-ball, swimmings, and races: to us old men let them leave out of many amusements the <i>tali</i> and <i>tessera;</i> and even in that matter it may be as they please, since old age can be happy without these amusements.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosthreeboo00cice/page/242/mode/2up?q=%22horses%2C+spears%22">Edmonds</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let others take for their own delight arms, horses, spears, clubs, balls, swimming-bouts, and foot-races. From their many diversions let them leave for us old men knuckle-bones and dice. Either will serve our turn; but without them old age can hardly be contented.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cicero_de_Senectute/Text#cite_ref-76:~:text=Let%20others%20take%20for%20their%20own%20delight%20arms%2C%20horses%2C%20spears%2C%20clubs%2C%20balls%2C%20swimming%2Dbouts%2C%20and%20foot%2Draces.%20From%20their%20many%20diversions%20let%20them%20leave%20for%20us%20old%20men%20knuckle%2Dbones%20and%20dice.%5B76%5D%20Either%20will%20serve%20our%20turn%3B%20but%20without%20them%20old%20age%20can%20hardly%20be%20contented.">Peabody</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let the young keep their arms then to themselves, their horses, spears, their foils and ball, their swimming baths and running path. To us old men let them, out of the many forms of sport, leave dice and counters; but even that as they choose, since old age can be quite happy without them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2808/pg2808-images.html#:~:text=Let%20the%20young%20keep%20their%20arms%20then%20to%20themselves%2C%20their%20horses%2C%20spears%2C%20their%20foils%20and%20ball%2C%20their%20swimming%20baths%20and%20running%20path.%20To%20us%20old%20men%20let%20them%2C%20out%20of%20the%20many%20forms%20of%20sport%2C%20leave%20dice%20and%20counters%3B%20but%20even%20that%20as%20they%20choose%2C%20since%20old%20age%20can%20be%20quite%20happy%20without%20them.">Shuckburgh</a> (1895)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let who will keep their arms, their steeds, their spears, <br>
Their club and ball, and let them swim and run, <br>
But let them leave from many forms of sport<br>
The dice to us old men, or take them too <br>
If so they will: old age can do without <br>
These trifles, and enjoy full happiness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark:/13960/t70v9281n&view=2up&seq=56&q1=%22their+arms+their+steeds%22">Allison</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No, let young people keep their equipment, their horses, their spears, their foils, their ball-games, their swimming and running, and out of all their amusements let them leave to us old fellows just the knuckle-bones and dice -- and then only if it strikes their fancy, for old age can be quite happy without them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/onoldageonfriend0000unse/page/30/mode/2up?q=spears">Copley</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You won't find us [old men] in armor or on horseback throwing spears; we don't fence with sticks or play catch; we'll let other people compete with each other in running or swimming races. Maybe we'll gamble a little with dice or knucklebones, or maybe not -- but, in any case, we'll be perfectly content.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/redflareciceroso0000cice/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22throwing+spears%22">Cobbold</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Therefore let others keep their fast cars, speed boats, fitness centers, bats, rackets, and balls, and leave us our checkers and bridge cards. But you know, they can take those too if we have a nice garden.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_To_Be_Old/OREcBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=[58]">Gerberding</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let the young have arm and mount<br>
Let them have ball and stick and pike<br>
Let them swim and scurry too,<br>
To the old are paramount<br>
Only dice games and the like.<br>
Should they deem those games undue<br>
We’ll comply without ado.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.crtpesaro.it/Materiali/Latino/De%20Senectute.php#:~:text=Let%20the%20young%20have%20arm%20and%20mount%0ALet%20them%20have%20ball%20and%20stick%20and%20pike%0ALet%20them%20swim%20and%20scurry%20too%2C%0ATo%20the%20old%20are%20paramount%0AOnly%20dice%20games%20and%20the%20like.%0AShould%20they%20deem%20those%20games%20undue%0AWe%E2%80%99ll%20comply%20without%20ado.">Bozzi</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let others have their weapons, their horses, their spears and fencing foils, their balls, their swimming contests and food traces. Just leave old men like me our dice and knucklebones. Or take away those too if you want. Old age can be happy without them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/How_to_Grow_Old/AW2YDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%2258%20let%20others%22">Freeman</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let others have weapons, horses, spears, fencing-foils, ball games, swimming competitions, races, and leave to the old men dice and knucklebones for games. Or let that go too since old age can be happy without it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2018/02/04/life-and-the-great-game-some-ancient-passages-on-spectacles/#:~:text=Let%20others%20have%20weapons%2C%20horses%2C%20spears%2C%20fencing%2Dfoils%2C%20ball%20games%2C%20swimming%20competitions%2C%20races%2C%20and%20leave%20to%20the%20old%20men%20dice%20and%20knucklebones%20for%20games.%20Or%20let%20that%20go%20too%20since%20old%20age%20can%20be%20happy%20without%20it.">@sentantiq</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Confucius -- The Analects [論語, 论语, Lúnyǔ], Book 17, verse 22 (17.22) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Watson (2007)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stuff yourself with food all day, never give your mind anything to do, and you’re a problem! There’s chess, isn’t there? There’s weiqi, isn’t there? &#8212; wiser at least to busy yourself with these. [飽食終日、無所用心、難矣哉、不有博弈者乎、爲之猶賢乎已] [饱食终日无所用心难矣哉不有博弈者乎为之犹贤乎已] There is varied discussion in footnotes as to the specific identity and nature of the game(s) Confucius references. The [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff yourself with food all day, never give your mind anything to do, and you’re a problem! There’s chess, isn’t there? There’s <em>weiqi,</em> isn’t there? &#8212; wiser at least to busy yourself with these.</p>
<p>[飽食終日、無所用心、難矣哉、不有博弈者乎、爲之猶賢乎已]<br />
[饱食终日无所用心难矣哉不有博弈者乎为之犹贤乎已]</p>
<br><b>Confucius</b> (c. 551- c. 479 BC) Chinese philosopher, sage, politician [孔夫子 (Kǒng Fūzǐ, K'ung Fu-tzu, K'ung Fu Tse), 孔子 (Kǒngzǐ, Chungni), 孔丘 (Kǒng Qiū, K'ung Ch'iu)]<br><i>The Analects</i> [論語, 论语, <i>Lúnyǔ]</i>, Book 17, verse 22 (17.22) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Watson (2007)] 
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There is varied discussion in footnotes as to the specific identity and nature of the game(s) Confucius references. The phrase <em>bo yi</em> or <em>po yi</em> (博弈) can be translated either as "to play chess" or "the game of <em>bo</em> and the game of <em>yi."</em> The game of <em>bo</em> was similar to <i>weiqi (wei-ch'i)</i> (or, in Japan, <i>go;</i> the game of <em>yi</em> was a game like chess, or a board game played with dice <i>(shuanglu),</i> the rules of which have been forgotten. There are also translators who assert it's the other way around, that <em>bo</em> or <em>liubo</em> is the game of chance, and <em>yi</em> was <em>weiqi (go)</em>.<br><br>

(Source (Chinese) <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/XVII#:~:text=%E9%A3%BD%E9%A3%9F%E7%B5%82%E6%97%A5%E3%80%81%E7%84%A1%E6%89%80%E7%94%A8%E5%BF%83%E3%80%81%E9%9B%A3%E7%9F%A3%E5%93%89%E3%80%81%E4%B8%8D%E6%9C%89%E5%8D%9A%E5%BC%88%E8%80%85%E4%B9%8E%E3%80%81%E7%88%B2%E4%B9%8B%E7%8C%B6%E8%B3%A2%E4%B9%8E%E5%B7%B2">1</a>, <a href="https://confucius.page/category/analects/analects-book-seventeen/#:~:text=%E5%AD%90%E6%9B%B0%E9%A5%B1%E9%A3%9F%E7%BB%88%E6%97%A5%E6%97%A0%E6%89%80%E7%94%A8%E5%BF%83%E9%9A%BE%E7%9F%A3%E5%93%89%E4%B8%8D%E6%9C%89%E5%8D%9A%E5%BC%88%E8%80%85%E4%B9%8E%E4%B8%BA%E4%B9%8B%E7%8A%B9%E8%B4%A4%E4%B9%8E%E5%B7%B2">2</a>). Other translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>Hard is it to deal with him, who will stuff himself with food the whole day, without applying his mind to anything good! Are there not gamesters and chess players? To be one of these would still be better than doing nothing at all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/XVII#:~:text=Hard%20is%20it%20to%20deal%20with%20him%2C%20who%20will%20stuff%20himself%20with%20food%20the%20whole%20day%2C%20without%20applying%20his%20mind%20to%20anything%20good!%20Are%20there%20not%20gamesters%20and%20chess%20players%3F%20To%20be%20one%20of%20these%20would%20still%20be%20better%20than%20doing%20nothing%20at%20all.">Legge</a> (1861)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah, it is difficult to know what to make of those who are all day long cramming themselves with food and are without anything to apply their minds to! Are there no dice and chess players? Better, perhaps, join in that pursuit than do nothing at all!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.25525/page/197/mode/2up?q=%22chess+players%22">Jennings</a> (1895)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a really bad case when a man simply eats his full meals without applying his mind to anything at all during the whole day. Are there not such things as gambling and games of skill? To do one of those things even is better than to do nothing at all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/TheDiscoursesAndSayingsOfConfucius/page/n179/mode/2up?q=%22games+of+skill%22">Ku Hung-Ming</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How hard is the case of the man who stuffs himself with food the livelong day, never applying his mind to anything! Are there no checker or chess players? Even to do that is surely better than nothing at all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/I-O4nmWeSnwC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22chess%20players%22">Soothill</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Stuffing in food all day, nothing that he puts his mind on, a hard case! Don't chess players at least do something and have solid merit by comparison?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.4505/page/n121/mode/2up?q=%22chess+players%22">Pound</a> (1933)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those who do nothing all day but cram themselves with food and never use their minds are difficult. Are there not games such as draughts? To play them would surely be better than doing nothing at all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_a6y6/page/204/mode/2up?q=draughts">Waley</a> (1938)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I really admire a fellow who goes about the whole day with a well-fed stomach and a vacuous mind. How can one ever do it? I would rather that he play chess, which would seem to me to be better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.1464/page/n47/mode/2up?q=chess">Lin Yutang</a> (1938)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To eat one’s full all day long without directing the mind to anything is, indeed, to be in difficulties! Even those who spend all their time at intricate games are to be reckoned of higher caliber.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.20677/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22eat+one%E2%80%99s+full+all%22">Ware</a> (1950), 17.20]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is no easy matter for a man who always has a full stomach to put his mind to some use. Are there not such things as <i>po</i> and <i>yi?</i> Even playing these games is better than being idle.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectslunyu00conf/page/146/mode/2up?q=%22po+and+yi%22">Lau</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is surely difficult to spend the whole day stuffing oneself with food and having nothing to use one's mind on. Are there not people who play <i>bo</i> and <i>yi?</i> Even such activity is definitely superior, is it not?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_d2c3/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22bo+and+yi%22">Dawson</a> (1993), 17.20]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I cannot abide these people who fill their bellies all day long, without ever using their minds! Why can't they play chess? At least it would be better than nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/kj_Kl9l0RZQC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22play%20chess%22">Leys</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Those who are stated with food all day without applying their minds to anything at all are difficult indeed! Are there no people who play double six and siege? Even doing those would be beter than to stop thinking altogether.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc00unse_0/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22sated+with+food%22">Huang</a> (1997), 17.21] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Eating all day without thinking about anything, such persons are hard to be trained. Are not there some games? Even if playing some games, it is also better than having nothing to do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc00conf_1/page/214/mode/2up?q=%22some+games%22">Cai/Yu</a> (1998), No. 462]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There are troubles ahead for those who spend their whole day filling their stomachs without ever exercising their heart-and-mind <i>(xin)</i>. Are there not diversions such as the board games of <i>bo</i> and <i>weiqi</i>? Even playing those games would be better than nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc0000conf_e9q2/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22board+games%22">Ames/Rosemont</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One who eats his fill all day long, and never uses his mind on anything, is a difficult case. Are there not such things as gammon and chess? Would it not be better to play them?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/originalanalects0000conf/page/164/mode/2up?q=gammon">Brooks/Brooks</a> (1998), 17.20]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All day eating and never thinking: such people are serious trouble. Aren't there games to play, like <i>go</i> and chess? Even that is better than nothing.
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf/page/202/mode/2up?q=chess">Hinton</a> (1998), 17.21]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Spending the entire day filling himself with food, never once exercising his mind -- someone like this is a hard case indeed! Do we not have the games <em>Bo</em> and <em>Yi?</em> Even playing these games would be better than doing nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://confucius.page/category/analects/analects-book-seventeen/#:~:text=Spending%20the%20entire%20day%20filling%20himself%20with%20food%2C%20never%20once%20exercising%20his%20mind%E2%80%94someone%20like%20this%20is%20a%20hard%20case%20indeed!%20Do%20we%20not%20have%20the%20games%20Bo%20and%20Yi%3F%20Even%20playing%20these%20games%20would%20be%20better%20than%20doing%20nothing.">Slingerland</a> (2003)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To spend the whole day stuffing yourself and not to put your mind to use at all -- this is hopeless behavior. Are there not such games as <i>bo</i> and <i>yi?</i> It would be better to play these games [than to do nothing at all].<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects/7czwAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22stuffing%20yourself%22">Annping Chin</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If a person is well fed the whole day and does not use his brain on anything, it will be difficult for him to be of value in life. Are there poker games and chess? Playing these games is still more beneficial than doing nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Confucius_Analects_%E8%AB%96%E8%AA%9E/Z_AFEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=him%20to%20be%20%22poker%20games%22">Li</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Gracián, Baltasar -- The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia], §  31 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The greatest skill in cards is to know when to discard; the smallest of current trumps is worth more than the ace of trumps of the last game. [La mejor treta del juego es saberse descartar: más importa la menor carta del triunfo que corre que la mayor del que pasó.] (Source (Spanish)). Other translations: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest skill in cards is to know when to discard; the smallest of current trumps is worth more than the ace of trumps of the last game.</p>
<p><em>[La mejor treta del juego es saberse descartar: más importa la menor carta del triunfo que corre que la mayor del que pasó.]</em></p>
<br><b>Baltasar Gracián y Morales</b> (1601–1658) Spanish Jesuit priest, writer, philosopher<br><i>The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia]</i>, §  31 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)] 
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(<a href="https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Or%C3%A1culo_manual_y_arte_de_prudencia/Aforismos_(26-50)#:~:text=La%20mejor%20treta%20del%20juego%20es%20saberse%20descartar%3A%20m%C3%A1s%20importa%20la%20menor%20carta%20del%20triunfo%20que%20corre%20que%20la%20mayor%20del%20que%20pas%C3%B3.">Source (Spanish)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>The true skill at play, is to know how to <i>discard.</i> The lowest Card that turns up, is better than the highest of the former dealing.<br>
[<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A41733.0001.001/1:4.31?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=The%20true%20skill%20at%20play%2C%20is%20to%20know%20how%20to%20discard.%20The%20lowest%20Card%20that%20turns%20up%2C%20is%20better%20than%20the%20highest%20of%20the%20for%E2%88%A3mer%20dealing.">Flesher</a> ed. (1685)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The great trick in cards lies in knowing what to discard: and the deuce of a suit that is trump, is more valuable than the ace of a suit that was.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/artofworldlywisd00grac/page/18/mode/2up?q=discard">Fischer</a> (1937)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The trick is to know what cards to get rid of. The least card in the winning hand in front of you is more important than the best card in the losing hand you just laid down.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Art_of_Worldly_Wisdom/UU2KDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22know%20what%20cards%22">Maurer</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Lamb, Charles -- &#8220;Mrs. Battle&#8217;s Opinions on Whist,&#8221; The Essays of Elia (1823)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man is a gaming animal. He must be always trying to get the better in something or other.</p>
<br><b>Charles Lamb</b> (1775–1834) Welsh-English essayist<br>&#8220;Mrs. Battle&#8217;s Opinions on Whist,&#8221; <i>The Essays of Elia</i> (1823) 
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		<description><![CDATA[You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. Frequently attributed to Plato, starting in the 1950s, but not found in his works. Earliest citation is as a Portuguese proverb, in A Polyglot of Foreign Proverbs, tr. Henry G. Bohn (1857): &#8220;Mais descobre huma hora de [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.</p>
<br><b>Plato</b> (c.428–347 BC) Greek philosopher<br>(Spurious) 
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Frequently attributed to Plato, starting in the 1950s, but not found in his works. Earliest citation is as <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=N9xUAAAAcAAJ&q=%22hour+of+play%22#v=snippet&q=%22hour%20of%20play%22&f=false">a Portuguese proverb</a>, in <em>A Polyglot of Foreign Proverbs</em>, tr. Henry G. Bohn (1857): <em>"Mais descobre huma hora de jogo, que hum anno de conversação."</em> For more see <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/07/30/hour-play/">here</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Montaigne, Michel de -- Essays, Book 1, ch. 22  (1.22), &#8220;Of Custom and Not Easily Changing an Accepted Law [De la Coustume et de Ne Changer Aisément une Loy Receüe]&#8221; (1572) [tr. Screech (1987)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should note that games are not games for children but are to be judged as the most serious things they do. [De vray il faut noter, que les jeux des enfants ne sont pas jeux: &#038; les faut juger en eux, comme leurs plus serieuses actions.] Some translators use the 1588 sequence of chapters, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should note that games are not games for children but are to be judged as the most serious things they do.</p>
<p><em>[De vray il faut noter, que les jeux des enfants ne sont pas jeux: &#038; les faut juger en eux, comme leurs plus serieuses actions.]</em></p>
<br><b>Michel de Montaigne</b> (1533–1592) French essayist<br><i>Essays</i>, Book 1, ch. 22  (1.22), &#8220;Of Custom and Not Easily Changing an Accepted Law <i>[De la Coustume et de Ne Changer Aisément une Loy Receüe]&#8221;</i> (1572) [tr. Screech (1987)] 
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Some translators use the 1588 sequence of chapters, not the 1595, and so identify this as ch. 23.<br><br>

(<a href="https://hyperessays.net/gournay/book/I/chapter/22/#:~:text=de%20vray%20il%20faut%20noter%2C%20que%20les%20jeux%20des%20enfants%20ne%20sont%20pas%20jeux%C2%A0%3A%20%26%20les%20faut%20juger%20en%20eux%2C%20comme%20leurs%20plus%20serieuses%20actions">Source (French)</a>). Other translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>For truely it is to bee noted, that Childrens playes are not sports, and should be deemed as their most serious actions.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/florio/book/I/chapter/22/#:~:text=for%20truely%20it%20is%20to%20bee%20noted%2C%20that%20Childrens%20playes%20are%20not%20sports%2C%20and%20should%20be%20deemed%20as%20their%20most%20serious%20actions">Florio</a> (1603), ch. 22]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As it must be noted, that the plays of children are not in jest, but must be judged of as their most serious actions.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essaysmichaelde01montgoog/page/112/mode/2up?q=%22pla%5Es+of+children%22">Cotton</a> (1686)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Indeed, it is to be noted, that the plays of children are not performed in play, but are to be judged in them as their most serious actions.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/essays/on-custom-and-not-easily-changing-an-accepted-law/#:~:text=indeed%2C%20it%20is%20to%20be%20noted%2C%20that%20the%20plays%20of%20children%20are%20not%20performed%20in%20play%2C%20but%20are%20to%20be%20judged%20in%20them%20as%20their%20most%20serious%20actions">Cotton/Hazlitt</a> (1877), ch. 22]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We must take note that the games of children are not games in their eyes; and we must regard these as their most serious actions. <br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Journal_of_Education/M18wAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22we+must+regard+these+as+their+most+serious+actions%22&pg=PA444&printsec=frontcover">E.g.</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Indeed, it should be noted that the games of children are not games, and must be judged as their most serious acts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Book_I/Myt1MG8XBqYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22indeed%20it%20should%22">Ives</a> (1925), ch. 23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Indeed it must be noted that children’s games are not games, and must be judged in children like their more serious actions.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeworksofm0000mont/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22as+indeed+it+must+be+noted%22">Frame</a> (1943), ch. 23] </blockquote><br>
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		<title>Coubertin, Pierre de -- Olympic Creed, Speech, Olympic Games, London (24 Jul 1908)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The important thing in life is not the victory but the contest; the essential thing is not to have won but to have fought well. [L&#8217;important dans la vie ce n&#8217;est point le triomphe, mais le combat, l&#8217;essentiel ce n&#8217;est pas d&#8217;avoir vaincu mais de s&#8217;être bien battu.] Alt. trans: &#8220;The important thing in life [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><em>[L&#8217;important dans la vie ce n&#8217;est point le triomphe, mais le combat, l&#8217;essentiel ce n&#8217;est pas d&#8217;avoir vaincu mais de s&#8217;être bien battu.]</em></p>
<br><b>Pierre Frédy, Baron de Coubertin</b> (1863–1937) French pedagogue, historian, founder of the International Olympic Committee<br>Olympic Creed, Speech, Olympic Games, London (24 Jul 1908) 
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Alt. trans: "The important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle, the essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well."<br><br>

Original phrasing by de Coubertin: "The importance of these Olympiads is not so much to win as to take part."<br><br>

De Coubertin was drawing from a sermon by Bp. Ethelbert Talbot at St Paul's Cathedral, London (19 Jul 1908): "We have just been contemplating the great Olympic Games. What does it mean? It means that young men of robust physical life have come from all parts of the world. It does mean, I think, as someone has said, that this era of internationalism as seen in the Stadium has an element of danger. Of course, it is very true, as he says, that each athlete strives not only for the sake of sport, but for the sake of his country. Thus a new rivalry is invented. If England be beaten on the river, or America outdistanced on the racing path, or that American has lost the strength which she once possessed. Well, what of it? The only safety after all lies in the lesson of the real Olympia -- that <em>the Games themselves are better than the race and the prize. </em>St. Paul tells us how insignificant is the prize, Our prize is not corruptible, but incorruptible, and though only one may wear the laurel wreath, all may share the equal joy of the contest. All encouragement, therefore, be given to the exhilarating -- I might also say soul-saving -- interest that comes in active and fair and clean athletic sports."						</span>
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		<title>Plato -- The Republic</title>
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<br><b>Plato</b> (c.428–347 BC) Greek philosopher<br><i>The Republic</i> 
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		<title>Card, Orson Scott -- Essay (1991-03), &#8220;Games with No Limits,&#8221; Compute Magazine, No. 127</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we game players wanted to have an experience controlled by somebody else, we could rent a videotape. Gamewrights should try to empower us as players, not limit us unnecessarily. Someone at every game design company should have a fulltime job of saying, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t we letting the player decide that?&#8221; [&#8230;] When they let [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">If we game players wanted to have an experience controlled by somebody else, we could rent a videotape. Gamewrights should try to empower us as players, not limit us unnecessarily. Someone at every game design company should have a fulltime job of saying, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t we letting the player decide that?&#8221; [&#8230;] When they let such unnecessary limitations creep into a game, gamewrights reveal that they don&#8217;t yet understand their own art. They&#8217;ve chosen to work with the most liberating of media &#8212; and yet they snatch back with their left hand the freedom they offered us with their right.<br />
<span class="tab">Remember, gamewrights, the power and beauty of the art of gamemaking is that you and the player collaborate to create the final story. Every freedom that you can give to the player is an artistic victory. And every needless boundary in your game should feel to you like failure.</p>
<br><b>Orson Scott Card</b> (b. 1951) American author<br>Essay (1991-03), &#8220;Games with No Limits,&#8221; <i>Compute</i> Magazine, No. 127 
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<br><b>Proverbs, Sayings, and Adages</b><br>Chinese proverb 
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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Good Omens, 6. &#8220;Saturday&#8221; (1990) [with Neil Gaiman]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Perhaps this isn&#8217;t just a test of the world,&#8221; said Crowley. &#8220;It might be a test of you people, too. Hmm?&#8221; &#8220;God does not play games with His loyal servants,&#8221; said the Metatron, but in a worried tone of voice. &#8220;Whooo-eee,&#8221; said Crowley. &#8220;Where have you been?&#8221;]]></description>
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<span class="tab">&#8220;God does not play games with His loyal servants,&#8221; said the Metatron, but in a worried tone of voice.<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Whooo-eee,&#8221; said Crowley. &#8220;Where have you <i>been</i>?&#8221;</p>
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