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		<title>Montaigne, Michel de -- Essays, Book 1, ch. 14  (1.14), &#8220;The Taste of Good and Bad Things Depends Mostly on the Opinion We Have of Them [Que le goust des biens et des maux despend en bonne partie de l’opinion que nous en avons]&#8221; (1572) [tr. HyperEssays (2023)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing I hate more than haggling. It is simply a petty and brazen business: Two parties will negotiate and argue for an hour only to walk away from what they have solemnly agreed to over five pennies’ worth of overcharge. [Il n’est rien que je haysse comme à marchander : c’est un pur [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing I hate more than haggling. It is simply a petty and brazen business: Two parties will negotiate and argue for an hour only to walk away from what they have solemnly agreed to over five pennies’ worth of overcharge.</p>
<p><em>[Il n’est rien que je haysse comme à marchander : c’est un pur commerce de trichoterie et d’impudence. Apres une heure de debat et de barguignage, l’un et l’autre abandonne sa parolle et ses sermens pour cinq sous d’amendement.]</em></p>
<br><b>Michel de Montaigne</b> (1533-1592) French essayist<br><i>Essays</i>, Book 1, ch. 14  (1.14), &#8220;The Taste of Good and Bad Things Depends Mostly on the Opinion We Have of Them <i>[Que le goust des biens et des maux despend en bonne partie de l’opinion que nous en avons]&#8221;</i> (1572) [tr. HyperEssays (2023)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://hyperessays.net/essays/the-taste-of-good-and-bad-things-depends-mostly-on-the-opinion-we-have-of-them/#:~:text=There%20is%20nothing%20I%20hate%20more%20than%20haggling.%20It%20is%20simply%20a%20petty%20and%20brazen%20business%3A%20Two%20parties%20will%20negotiate%20and%20argue%20for%20an%20hour%20only%20to%20walk%20away%20from%20what%20they%20have%20solemnly%20agreed%20to%20over%20five%20pennies%E2%80%99%20worth%20of%20overcharge." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Though this chapter was written around 1572 for the 1580 edition, this text was added for the 1588 edition. The chapter as a whole was numbered ch. 14 in the 1580 and 1588 editions, moved to ch. 40 for the 1595 ed. Most modern translations use the original numbering.<br><br>

(<a href="https://hyperessays.net/gournay/book/I/chapter/40/#:~:text=Il%20n%E2%80%99est%20rien%20que%20je%20haysse%20comme%20%C3%A0%20marchander%C2%A0%3A%20c%E2%80%99est%20un%20pur%20commerce%20de%20trichoterie%20et%20d%E2%80%99impudence.%20Apres%20une%20heure%20de%20debat%20et%20de%20barguignage%2C%20l%E2%80%99un%20et%20l%E2%80%99autre%20abandonne%20sa%20parolle%20et%20ses%20sermens%20pour%20cinq%20sous%20d%E2%80%99amendement.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>There is nothing I hate more then driving of bargains: It is a meere commerce of dodging and impudencie. After an houres debating and paltring, both parties will goe from their wordes and oathes for the getting or saving of a shilling.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/florio/book/I/chapter/40/#:~:text=There%20is%20nothing%20I%20hate%20more%20then%20driving%20of%20bargains%3A%20It%20is%20a%20meere%20commerce%20of%20dodging%20and%20impudencie.%20After%20an%20houres%20debating%20and%20paltring%2C%20both%20parties%20will%20goe%20from%20their%20wordes%20and%20oathes%20for%20the%20getting%20or%20saving%20of%20a%20shilling">Florio</a> (1603), ch. 40]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is nothing I hate so much, as driving a Bargain; ’tis a meer Traffick of Couzenage and Impudence; where after an Hours cheapning and dogding, both Parties abandon their Word and Oath for Five Sols profit, or abatement.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://hyperessays.net/cotton/book/I/chapter/40/#:~:text=There%20is%20nothing%20I%20hate%20so%20much%2C%20as%20driving%20a%20Bargain%3B%20%E2%80%99tis%20a%20meer%20Traffick%20of%20Couzenage%20and%20Impudence%3B%20where%20after%20an%20Hours%20cheapning%20and%20dogding%2C%20both%20Parties%20abandon%20their%20Word%20and%20Oath%20for%20Five%20Sols%20profit%2C%20or%20abatement.">Cotton</a> (1686), ch. 40] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is nothing I hate so much as driving a bargain; 'tis a mere traffic of cozenage and impudence, where, after an hour's cheapening and hesitating, both parties abandon their word and oath for five sols' abatement.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Essays_of_Montaigne/Book_I/Chapter_XL#:~:text=There%20is%20nothing%20I%20hate%20so%20much%20as%20driving%20a%0Abargain%3B%20%27tis%20a%20mere%20traffic%20of%20cozenage%20and%20impudence%2C%20where%2C%20after%20an%0Ahour%27s%20cheapening%20and%20hesitating%2C%20both%20parties%20abandon%20their%20word%20and%0Aoath%20for%20five%20sols%27%20abatement.">Cotton/Hazlitt</a> (1877), ch. 40]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is nothing that I hate so much as haggling; it is a mere interchange of cheating and impudence. Afer an hour of wrangling and chaffering, one and the other side sacrifices his word and his oaths for a charge of five sous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Book_I/Myt1MG8XBqYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cheating%20and%20impudence%22">Ives</a> (1925)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is nothing I hate like bargaining. It is a pure interchange of trickery and shamelessness: after an hour of disputing and haggling both men go back on their word and their oath for a gain of five sous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeworksofm0000mont/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22hate+like+bargaining%22">Frame</a> (1943)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is nothing I hate more than bargaining. It is a pure exchange of trickery and effrontery: after hours of arguing and haggling both sides go back on their pledged word to gain a few pence more. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/the-complete-essays-montaigne-michel-de-1533-1592/page/67/mode/2up?q=%22more+than+bargaining%22">Screech</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Beaverbrook (Lord) -- &#8220;As O. O. McIntyre Sees It,&#8221; syndicated column (2 Jan 1937)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone sends me a clipping from Columnist Lyons with this honey: &#8220;They are telling this of Lord Beaverbrook and a visiting Yankee actress. In a game of hypothetical questions, Beaverbrook asked the lady: &#8216;Would you live with a stranger if he paid you one million pounds?&#8217; She said she would. &#8216;And if be paid you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone sends me a clipping from Columnist Lyons with this honey: &#8220;They are telling this of Lord Beaverbrook and a visiting Yankee actress. In a game of hypothetical questions, Beaverbrook asked the lady: &#8216;Would you live with a stranger if he paid you one million pounds?&#8217; She said she would. &#8216;And if be paid you five pounds?&#8217; The irate lady fumed: &#8216;Five pounds. What do you think I am?&#8217; Beaverbrook replied: &#8216;We’ve already established that. Now we are trying to determine the degree.'&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Max Aitken, Lord Beaverbrook</b> (1879-1964) Anglo-Canadian business tycoon, publisher, politician, writer<br>&#8220;As O. O. McIntyre Sees It,&#8221; syndicated column (2 Jan 1937) 
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This anecdote has been attributed to a number of people, including Winston Churchill and George Bernard Shaw, usually in a bawdier form, e.g.:
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SHAW: [To a woman seated by him at a dinner party.]  Madam, if I gave you a million pounds, would you sleep with me?<br>
WOMAN: I think I would.<br>
SHAW: Would you do it for five?<br>
WOMAN: Sir, what kind of woman do you think I am?<br>
SHAW: I thought we had established that, and were merely haggling over the price.</blockquote>
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The above, attributing the exchange to Lord Beaverbrook, is the earliest version found. See <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/">here</a> and <a href="https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/what_kind_of_woman_do_you_take_me_for_madam_weve_already_established_that_c/">here</a> for more discussion and research into its origins. 

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