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		<title>Homer -- The Iliad [Ἰλιάς], Book 24, l.  44ff (24.44) [Apollo] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Pope (1715-20)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame is not of his soul; nor understood, The greatest evil and the greatest good. [οὐδέ οἱ αἰδὼς γίγνεται, ἥ τ᾽ ἄνδρας μέγα σίνεται ἠδ᾽ ὀνίνησι.] Speaking of Achilles&#8217; mistreatment of Hector&#8217;s corpse. Pope footnotes: &#8220;This is obscure. The original is, &#8216;He has no shame, shame which harms men much, and profits them much.&#8217; Dr. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame is not of his soul; nor understood,<br />
The greatest evil and the greatest good.</p>
<p>[οὐδέ οἱ αἰδὼς<br />
γίγνεται, ἥ τ᾽ ἄνδρας μέγα σίνεται ἠδ᾽ ὀνίνησι.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Iliad</i> [Ἰλιάς], Book 24, l.  44ff (24.44) [Apollo] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Pope (1715-20)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_of_Homer_(Pope)/Book_24#pageindex_429:~:text=Shame%20is%20not%20of%20his%20soul%3B,greatest%20evil%20and%20the%20greatest%20good" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Speaking of Achilles' mistreatment of Hector's corpse. Pope <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_of_Homer_(Pope)/Book_24#cite_note-1:~:text=This%20is%20obscure.%20The%20original%20is%2C,critic%2C%20thinks%20the%20passage%20an%20interpolation.">footnotes</a>: "This is obscure. The original is, 'He has no shame, shame which harms men much, and profits them much.' Dr. Leat, following an ancient critic, thinks the passage an interpolation."<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>And shame, a quality<br>
Of so much weight, that both it helps and hurts excessively<br>
Men in their manners, is not known, nor hath the pow’r to be,<br>
In this man’s being.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://fiftywordsforsnow.com/ebooks/chapman/iliad2.html#page2_253:~:text=And%20so%20fares%20this%20man%2C%20that,men%20a%20greater%20loss%20than%20he">Chapman</a> (1611), l. 47ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Shame, man’s blessing or his curse.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16452/16452-h/16452-h.htm#page_590:~:text=and%20shame%2C%20man%E2%80%99s%20blessing%20or%20his%20curse.%5B">Cowper</a> (1791), l. 58]<br><br>

Cowper <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16452/16452-h/16452-h.htm#Bk_24-2:~:text=His%20blessing%2C%20if%20he%20is%20properly,he%20is%20deaf%20to%20its%20dictates.%5D%E2%80%94">footnotes</a>: "His blessing, if he is properly influenced by it; his curse in its consequences if he is deaf to its dictates."</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor in him is there sense of shame, which greatly hurts and profits men.<br> 
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22382/22382-h/22382-h.htm#footnote775:~:text=nor%20in%20him%20is%20there%20sense%20of%20shame%2C%20which%20greatly%20hurts%20and%20profits%20men.">Buckley</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Conscience, arbiter of good and ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6150/6150-h/6150-h.htm#linknoteref-8:~:text=conscience%2C%20arbiter%20of%20good%20and%20ill.">Derby</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Neither hath he shame, that doth both harm and profit men greatly.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3059/3059-h/3059-h.htm#:~:text=neither%20hath%20he%20shame%2C%20that%20doth%20both%20harm%20and%20profit%20men%20greatly.">Leaf/Lang/Myers</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That conscience which at once so greatly banes yet greatly boons him that will heed it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_(Butler)/Book_XXIV#header_section_text:~:text=that%20conscience%20which%20at%20once%20so%20greatly%20banes%20yet%20greatly%20boons%20him%20that%20will%20heed%20it">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Neither is shame in his heart, the which harmeth men greatly and profiteth them withal.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0134%3Abook%3D24%3Acard%3D22#text_main:~:text=neither%20is%20shame%20in%20his%20heart%2C%20%5B45%5D%20the%20which%20harmeth%20men%20greatly%20and%20profiteth%20them%20withal.">Murray</a> (1924)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is not in him any shame; which does much harm to men but profits them also.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad_of_Homer/VppP9t9CjFIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22there%20is%20not%20in%20him%20any%20shame%22">Lattimore</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He has no shame -- that gift that hinders mortals but helps them, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/SZ0LrX2UOuUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22he%20has%20no%20shame%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No shame in the man,<br>
shame that does great harm or drives men on to good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://griersmusings.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/homer_the_iliad_penguin_classics_deluxe_edition-robert-fagles.pdf">Fagles</a> (1990), l. 52ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Shame and respect no <br>
longer he has, which harm men greatly but profit them also.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/sos0paw_-cEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA418&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22shame%20and%20respect%20no%22">Merrill</a> (2007)]</blockquote>						</span>
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