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		<title>Greenwood, Kerry -- Phryne Fisher Book 19, Unnatural Habits, ch.  7 (2012)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">&#8220;I know they’re committing a sin,&#8221; said Dot slowly. &#8220;But at least it doesn’t hurt anyone else.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Bravo,&#8221; said Phryne. &#8220;We shall make a bohemian of you yet.&#8221;</span></span></p>
<br><b>Kerry Greenwood</b> (b. 1954) Australian author and lawyer<br>Phryne Fisher Book 19, <i>Unnatural Habits</i>, ch.  7 (2012) 
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Of the members of the gay "Blue Cat Club."

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		<title>Fry, Stephen -- An Evening with Callow &#038; Fry, Norwich (2003-12)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the subject of Biblical texts and examples to why you can&#8217;t do certain things with your body that you wish to, I find that absolutely absurd. I&#8217;ve always been extremely uncomfortable with the idea in any society that belief is based on revealed truth, that&#8217;s to say on a text like a Bible or [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of Biblical texts and examples to why you can&#8217;t do certain things with your body that you wish to, I find that absolutely absurd. I&#8217;ve always been extremely uncomfortable with the idea in any society that belief is based on revealed truth, that&#8217;s to say on a text like a Bible or a Qur&#8217;an, or whatever it is. It seems to me that the greatness of our culture, for all its incredible faults, is that we have grown up on the Greek ideal of discovering the truth, discovering by looking around us, by empirical experiment, by the combination of the experience of generations of ancestors who have contributed to our sum knowledge of the way the world works, and so on. And to have that snatched away and to be told what to think by a book, however great it may be in places, this is a book that says you can sell your daughter into slavery, it&#8217;s a book that bans menstruating women from within miles of temples. The fact that it also says that for one man to lie with another man is an abomination, is no more made relevant or important than the fact that you can&#8217;t eat shellfish.</p>
<br><b>Stephen Fry</b> (b. 1957)  British actor, writer, comedian<br><i>An Evening with Callow &#038; Fry</i>, Norwich (2003-12) 
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  90 (1.90) (AD 85-86) [tr. Sedley (1702)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That I ne&#8217;er saw thee in a Coach with Man, Nor thy chaste Name in wanton satire met; That from thy sex thy liking never ran, So as to suffer a Male-servant yet; I thought thee the Lucretia of our time: But, Bassa, thou the while a Tribas wert, And clashing &#8212; with a prodigious [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I ne&#8217;er saw thee in a Coach with Man,<br />
<span class="tab">Nor thy chaste Name in wanton satire met;<br />
That from thy sex thy liking never ran,<br />
<span class="tab">So as to suffer a Male-servant yet;<br />
I thought thee the Lucretia of our time:<br />
<span class="tab">But, Bassa, thou the while a Tribas wert,<br />
And clashing &#8212; with a prodigious Crime<br />
<span class="tab">Didst act of Man th&#8217; inimitable part.<br />
What Oedipus this Riddle can untie?<br />
<span class="tab">Without a Male there was Adultery.</p>
<p><em>[Quod numquam maribus iunctam te, Bassa, videbam<br />
Quodque tibi moechum fabula nulla dabat,<br />
Omne sed officium circa te semper obibat<br />
Turba tui sexus, non adeunte viro,<br />
Esse videbaris, fateor, Lucretia nobis:<br />
At tu, pro facinus, Bassa, fututor eras.<br />
Inter se geminos audes committere cunnos<br />
Mentiturque virum prodigiosa Venus.<br />
Commenta es dignum Thebano aenigmate monstrum,<br />
Hic ubi vir non est, ut sit adulterium.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  90 (1.90) (AD 85-86) [tr. Sedley (1702)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22thee%20the%20lucretia%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Bassa". This epigram is often untranslated or omitted in collections. Martial thought lesbian sexuality perverse, though he enjoyed and wrote highly of pederasty, as any good Roman male would. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.90">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>That with the males thou ne'er wast known to mix,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor e'er gallant did envious slander fix;<br>
That thine officious sex thee homag'd round,<br>
<span class="tab">And not a man durst taint the hallow'd ground:<br>
What less than a Lucretia could'st thou be?<br>
<span class="tab">Ah! what was found? Th' adulterer in thee,<br>
To  make the mounts collide emerg'd they plan,<br>
<span class="tab">And monstrous Venus would bely the man.<br>
Thou a new Theban torture could'st explore,<br>
<span class="tab">And bid adult'ry need a male no more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20less%20than%20a%20lucretia%22">Hay</a> (1755); Book 6, Part 3, ep. 44]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Inasmuch as I never saw you, Bassa, surrounded by a crowd of admirers, and report in no case assigned to you a favoured lover; but every duty about your person was constantly performed by a crowd of your own sex, without the presence of even one man; you seemed to me, I confess it, to be a Lucretia.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Inasmuch%20as%20I%20never%20saw%20you%2C%20Bassa%2C%20surrounded%20by%20a%20crowd%20of%20admirers%2C%20and%20report%20in%20no%20case%20assigned%20to%20you%20a%20favoured%20lover%3B%20but%20every%20duty%20about%20your%20person%20was%20constantly%20performed%20by%20a%20crowd%20of%20your%20own%20sex%2C%20without%20the%20presence%20of%20even%20one%20man%3B%20you%20seemed%20to%20me%2C%20I%20confess%20it%2C%20to%20be%20a%20Lucretia.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897), "On Bassa"; the "translation" then shifts to the original Latin.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In that I never saw you, Bassa, intimate with men, and that no scandal assigned you a lover, but every office a throng of your own sex round you performed without the approach of man -- you seemed to me, I confess, a Lucretia; yet, Bassa -- oh, monstrous! -- you are, it seems, a nondescript. You dare things unspeakable, and your portentous lust imitates man. You have invented a prodigy worthy of the Theban riddle, that here, where no man is, should be adultery!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bassa%20intimate%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Never having seen you taking a man's arm, Bassa,<br>
realizing that no gossip attaches a lover to you,<br>
noticing how you were always surrounded<br>
by a throng of your own sex doing things for you<br>
and letting no man approach you, I admit I felt<br>
that we had another Lucretia in you.<br>
But you were doing the raping, Bassa,<br>
working out ways for identical twin genitals<br>
to double their fun by pretending that one -- yours --<br>
was the man in this case, a barefaced lie<br>
you've conjured up a riddle only the Sphinx could solve:<br>
<span class="tab">Adultery, without any man involved. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/70/mode/2up?q=bassa">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I never saw you close to men, Bassa, and no rumor gave you a lover. You were always surrounded by a crowd of your own sex, performing every office, with no man coming near you. So I confess I thought you a Lucretia; but Bassa, for shame, you were a fornicator. You dare to join two cunts and your monstrous organ feigns masculinity. You have invented a portent worthy of the Theban riddle: where no man is, there is adultery.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=I%20never%20saw,there%20is%20adultery.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I never saw you, Bassa, with a man<br>
<span class="tab">No rumor ever spread of an affair.<br>
You seemed as chaste as any woman can,<br>
<span class="tab">With Lucrece pure you made a worthy pair.<br>
Belatedly I found I venerated,<br>
<span class="tab">A woman who a woman penetrated.<br>
You found an amphisbaenic instrument --<br>
<span class="tab">To give cunts simultaneous content.<br>
You pose a riddle Sphinxes never knew,<br>
<span class="tab">To be a woman and a woman screw.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22bassa%20with%20a%20man%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bassa, I never saw you hang with guys --<br>
Nobody whispered that you had a beau.<br>
Girls surrounded you at every turn;<br>
They did your errands, with no attendant males.<br>
And so, I guess I naturally assumed<br>
That you were what you seemed: a chaste Lucretia.<br>
But hell no. Why, you shameless little tramp,<br>
You were an active humper all the time.<br>
You improvised, by rubbing cunts together,<br>
And using that bionic clit of yours<br>
To counterfeit the thrusting of a male.<br>
Unbelievable. You’ve managed to create<br>
A real conundrum, worthy of the Sphinx:<br>
Adultery without a co-respondent.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.barefootmuse.com/archives/issue7/salemi2.htm#:~:text=Epigram%20I.90,a%20co%2Drespondent.">Salemi</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bassa, I never saw you close to men; no gossip linked you to a lover here.<br>
<span class="tab">A crowd of your own sex was always with you at every function, no man coming near.<br>
I have to say, I thought you a Lucretia, but you (for shame!) were fucking even then.<br>
<span class="tab">You dare link twin cunts and, with your monstrous clitoris, pretend to fuck like men.<br>
You'd suit a Theban riddle perfectly: <br>
<span class="tab">where there's no man, there's still adultery.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&pg=PR7&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=snippet&q=%22close%20to%20men%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>DeGeneres, Ellen -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asking who&#8217;s the &#8220;man&#8221; and who&#8217;s the &#8220;woman&#8221; in a same-sex relationship is like asking which chopstick is the fork. Frequently attributed to DeGeneres, but no specific citation found. The phrase may have pre-existed and been popularized by her.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking who&#8217;s the &#8220;man&#8221; and who&#8217;s the &#8220;woman&#8221; in a same-sex relationship is like asking which chopstick is the fork.</p>
<br><b>Ellen DeGeneres</b> (b. 1958) American comedian, actress, writer, producer<br>(Attributed) 
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Frequently attributed to DeGeneres, but no specific citation found. The phrase may have pre-existed and been popularized by her.						</span>
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		<title>Vidal, Gore -- &#8220;America First? America Last? America at Last?&#8221; Lowell Lecture, Harvard University (20 Apr 1992)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least when the Emperor Justinian, a sky-god man, decided to outlaw sodomy, he had to come up with a good practical reason, which he did. It is well known, Justinian declared, that buggery is a principal cause of earthquakes, and so must be prohibited. But our sky-godders, always eager to hate, still quote Leviticus, as if that looney text had anything useful to say about anything except, perhaps, the inadvisability of eating shellfish in the Jerusalem area.</p>
<br><b>Gore Vidal</b> (1925–2012) American novelist, dramatist, critic<br>&#8220;America First? America Last? America at Last?&#8221; Lowell Lecture, Harvard University (20 Apr 1992) 
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		<description><![CDATA[Does it really matter what these affectionate people do &#8212; so long as they don&#8217;t do it in the streets and frighten the horses! Apocryphally a rebuke c. 1910 to a young actress who criticized an older actor as seeming too affectionate toward the handsome leading man in the production. Most famously given in this [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it <em>really </em>matter what these affectionate people do &#8212; so long as they don&#8217;t do it in the streets and <em>frighten the horses!</em></p>
<br><b>Beatrice Campbell</b> (1865–1940) English actress [Mrs. Patrick Campbell, née Beatrice Stella Tanner]<br>(Attributed) 
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Apocryphally a rebuke c. 1910 to a young actress who criticized an older actor as seeming too affectionate toward the handsome leading man in the production. Most famously given in this form in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/UUyvAAAAIAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22frighten%20the%20horses%22">Alan Dent</a>, <em>Mrs. Patrick Campbell</em> (1961).<br><br>

Further discussion and variants:<ul>
	<li><a href="https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/dont_scare_the_horses_or_the_children/">The Big Apple: “Don’t scare the horses or the children”</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/10/08/frighten/">I Really Don’t Mind What People Do, So Long As They Don’t Do It In the Street and Frighten the Horses – Quote Investigator</a>.</li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to be &#8220;straight&#8221; to fight and die for your country.  You just need to shoot straight.</p>
<br><b>Barry Goldwater</b> (1909–1998) American politician<br><i>Washington Post</i>, opinion piece (Jun 1993) 
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