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		<title>Oliver, Andrew -- Speech (1774?)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Politics is the most hazardous of all professions. There is not another in which a man can hope to do so much good to his fellow creatures; neither is there any in which by a mere loss of nerve he may do such widespread harm. Nor is there another in which he may so easily [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics is the most hazardous of all professions. There is not another in which a man can hope to do so much good to his fellow creatures; neither is there any in which by a mere loss of nerve he may do such widespread harm. Nor is there another in which he may so easily lose his own soul; nor is there another in which a positive and strict veracity is so difficult. But danger is the inseparable companion of honor. With all the temptations and degradations that beset it, politics is still the noblest career any man can choose.</p>
<br><b>Andrew Oliver</b> (1706-1774) American Colonial merchant, politician, government official<br>Speech (1774?) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/us_congress_91/congressional-record-1970-pt11/mode/2up?q=%22andrew+oliver%22+%22temptations+and+degradations%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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I cannot find an original source for this. It <a href="https://archive.org/details/texts?tab=collection&query=%22andrew+oliver%22+%22temptations+and+degradations%22&sin=TXT">shows up frequently in the US Congressional Record</a>, especially after it was <a href="https://archive.org/details/majorcampaignspe0000rand/page/100/mode/2up?q=%22andrew+oliver%22">used by Adlai Stevenson</a> in a 1952 campaign speech.<br><br>

It is also attributed to <a href="https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec112kunit/page/n1686/mode/2up?q=%22andrew+oliver%22">his same-named son (1731-1799)</a>, who founded the <i>Political Journal</i>.

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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Pro Sestio [For Publius Sestius], ch. 68 / sec. 143 (56-02 BC) [tr. @sentantiq (2011)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us spurn the rewards of today and look to future glory; let us deem best what is most honorable; let us hope for what we want, but bear what befalls us; finally, let us consider that even the bodies of brave men and great citizens are mortal; but that activity of the mind and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us spurn the rewards of today and look to future glory; let us deem best what is most honorable; let us hope for what we want, but bear what befalls us; finally, let us consider that even the bodies of brave men and great citizens are mortal; but that activity of the mind and the glory of virtue are for ever.</p>
<p><em>[Praesentis fructus neglegamus, posteritatis gloriae serviamus; id esse optimum putemus quod erit rectissimum; speremus quae volumus, sed quod acciderit feramus; cogitemus denique corpus virorum fortium magnorum hominum esse mortale, animi vero motus et virtutis gloriam sempiternam.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Pro Sestio [For Publius Sestius]</i>, ch. 68 / sec. 143 (56-02 BC) [tr. @sentantiq (2011)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2011/10/23/cicero-pro-sestio-143/" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0014%3Atext%3DSest.%3Achapter%3D68%3Asection%3D143#:~:text=praesentis%20fructus%20neglegamus%2C%20posteritatis%20gloriae%20serviamus%3B%20id%20esse%20optimum%20putemus%20quod%20erit%20rectissimum%3B%20speremus%20quae%20volumus%2C%20sed%20quod%20acciderit%20feramus%3B%20cogitemus%20denique%20corpus%20virorum%20fortium%20magnorum1%20hominum%20esse%20mortale%2C%20animi%20vero%20motus%20et%20virtutis%20gloriam%20sempiternam">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Let us disregard present gains, let us care only for the reputation we shall have with posterity; let us hope for that which we desire to have, but let us bear what shall have befallen us; lastly, let us reflect that the bodies of brave heroes and great men are mortal, but the emotions of the soul and the glory of their merits eternal.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/M_T_Ciceronis_oratio_pro_P_Sestio_tr_by/ro5o55KcLXQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover">Hickie</a> (1888)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us disregard present rewards, and fix our eyes on the glory which we shall receive from posterity. Let us think that the most desirable conduct, which is the most upright; let us hope for whatever we choose, but bear whatever befalls us, let us consider, lastly, that the bodies of brave men and great citizens are mortal, but that the impulses of the mind and the glory of virtue are everlasting.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0020%3Atext%3DSest.%3Achapter%3D68%3Asection%3D143#:~:text=let%20us%20disregard,virtue%20are%20everlasting.">Yonge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Neglecting present gain, let us be in bondage to posterity; let us count best what is right; hoping to achieve our ends, let us nevertheless bear what may befall us; let us remember that the body of the great and brave is mortal, but the fame of their spirit and their virtues is eternal.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b291783&seq=96&q1=%22neglecting+present+gain%22">Rogers/Harley</a> (1928)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us disregard present advantages, let us work for glory in years to come; let us regard that as best which is most truly good ; let us hope for our wishes, but let us bear what comes. Lastly, let us remember, that if the body of a brave and great man is mortal, yet the impulses of the mind and the glory of virtue are eternal.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.attalus.org/cicero/sestius2.html#:~:text=let%20us%20disregard,virtue%20are%20eternal">Gardner</a> (Loeb) (1958)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Stevenson, Robert Louis -- Essay (1881), &#8220;Virginibus Puerisque, Part 2&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope is the boy, a blind, headlong, pleasant fellow, good to chase swallows with the salt; Faith is the grave, experienced, yet smiling man. Hope lives on ignorance; open-eyed Faith is built upon a knowledge of our life, of the tyranny of circumstance and the frailty of human resolution. Hope looks for unqualified success; but [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">Hope is the boy, a blind, headlong, pleasant fellow, good to chase swallows with the salt; Faith is the grave, experienced, yet smiling man. Hope lives on ignorance; open-eyed Faith is built upon a knowledge of our life, of the tyranny of circumstance and the frailty of human resolution. Hope looks for unqualified success; but Faith counts certainly on failure, and takes honourable defeat to be a form of victory. Hope is a kind old pagan; but Faith grew up in Christian days, and early learnt humility.<br />
<span class="tab">In the one temper, a man is indignant that he cannot spring up in a clap to heights of elegance and virtue; in the other, out of a sense of his infirmities, he is filled with confidence because a year has come and gone, and he has still preserved some rags of honour. In the first, he expects an angel for a wife; in the last, he knows that she is like himself &#8212; erring, thoughtless, and untrue; but like himself also, filled with a struggling radiancy of better things, and adorned with ineffective qualities.</span></span></p>
<br><b>Robert Louis Stevenson</b> (1850–1894) Scottish essayist, novelist, poet<br>Essay (1881), &#8220;Virginibus Puerisque, Part 2&#8221; 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Virginibus_Puerisque_and_Other_Papers/Virginibus_Puerisque#:~:text=Hope%20is%20the,with%20ineffective%20qualities." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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First published in <i>Virginibus Puerisque and Other Papers</i>, ch. 1, part 2 (1881).						</span>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Philippics [Philippicae; Antonian Orations], No.  3, ch. 14 / sec.  35 (2.14/3.35.3) (44-12-20 BC) [tr. Yonge (1903)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if now (but may the immortal gods avert the omen!) that worst of fates shall befall the republic, then, as brave gladiators take care to perish with honor, let us too, who are the chief men of all countries and nations, take care to fall with dignity rather than to live as slaves with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if now (but may the immortal gods avert the omen!) that worst of fates shall befall the republic, then, as brave gladiators take care to perish with honor, let us too, who are the chief men of all countries and nations, take care to fall with dignity rather than to live as slaves with ignominy.</p>
<p><em>[Quodsi iam, quod di omen avertant! fatum extremum rei publicae venit, quod gladiatores nobiles faciunt, ut honeste decumbant, faciamus nos principes orbis terrarum gentiumque omnium, ut cum dignitate potius cadamus quam cum ignominia serviamus.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Philippics [Philippicae; Antonian Orations]</i>, No.  3, ch. 14 / sec.  35 (2.14/3.35.3) (44-12-20 BC) [tr. Yonge (1903)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0021%3Aspeech%3D3%3Asection%3D35#:~:text=And%20if%20now%20(but%20may%20the%20immortal%20gods%20avert%20the%20omen!)%20that%20worst%20of%20fates%20shall%20befall%20the%20republic%2C%20then%2C%20as%20brave%20gladiators%20take%20care%20to%20perish%20with%20honor%2C%20let%20us%20too%2C%20who%20are%20the%20chief%20men%20of%20all%20countries%20and%20nations%2C%20take%20care%20to%20fall%20with%20dignity%20rather%20than%20to%20live%20as%20slaves%20with%20ignominy." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0011%3Atext%3DPhil.%3Aspeech%3D3%3Asection%3D35#:~:text=quod%20si%20iam%E2%80%94quod%20di%20omen%20avertant!%E2%80%94fatum%20extremum%20rei%20publicae%20venit%2C%20quod%20gladiatores%20nobiles%20faciunt%20ut%20honeste%20decumbant%2C%20faciamus%20nos%2C%20principes%20orbis%20terrarum%20gentiumque%20omnium%2C%20ut%20cum%20dignitate%20potius%20cadamus%20quam%20cum%20ignominia%20serviamus.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>But if already -- may the Gods avert the omen! -- the State has been brought to its latest pass, let us, the leaders of the world and of all nations, do what stout gladiators do to die with honour, let us fall with dignity rather than serve with ignominy.
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106005388175&seq=245&q1=%22brought+to+its+latest%22">Ker</a> (Loeb) (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If -- may the Gods avert the omen! -- the final episode in the history of the Res publica has arrived, let us behave like champion gladiators: they meet death honorably; let us, who stand foremost in the world and all nations, see to it that we fall with dignity rather than serve with ignominy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_Philippics_3_9/xxfan1mvS5YC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20final%20episode%22">Manuwald</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But if, may the Gods avert the omen, final fate has come to the State, let us, leaders of the world and all nations, do what noble gladiators do to die with dignity: let us fall on our sword rather than serve with ignominy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Cicero/Quotes_from_Cicero%27s_Philippics#:~:text=But%20if%2C%20may%20the%20Gods%20avert%20the%20omen%2C%20final%20fate%20has%20come%20to%20the%20State%2C%20let%20us%2C%20leaders%20of%20the%20world%20and%20all%20nations%2C%20do%20what%20noble%20gladiators%20do%20to%20die%20with%20dignity%3A%20let%20us%20fall%20on%20our%20sword%20rather%20than%20serve%20with%20ignominy.">Wiseman</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Marlowe, Christopher -- Tamburlaine the Great, Part 1, Act 4, sc. 4 (1586-1587)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">TAMBURLAINE: Your births shall be no blemish to your fame;<br />
For virtue is the fount whence honour springs,<br />
And they are worthy she investeth kings.</p>
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<br><b>Christopher "Kit" Marlowe</b> (1564-1593) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Tamburlaine the Great, Part 1</i>, Act 4, sc. 4 (1586-1587) 
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More on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur">Timur</a> (Tamerlane, Tamburlaine).						</span>
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		<title>Ingersoll, Robert Green -- Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There can be nothing more utterly subversive of all that is really valuable than the suppression of honest thought. No man, worthy of the form he bears, will at the command of church or state solemnly repeat a creed his reason scorns.</p>
<br><b>Robert Green Ingersoll</b> (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator<br>Lecture (1873-12) &#8220;Individuality,&#8221; Chicago Free Religious Society 
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Full title "<a href="https://conwayhallcollections.omeka.net/items/show/742">Arraignment of the Church and a Plea for Individuality</a>." <a href="https://archive.org/details/godsotherlectu00inge/page/204/mode/2up?q=%22founded+upon+the+bible%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Gods and Other Lectures</i> (1876)
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		<title>Hugo, Victor -- Les Misérables, Part 5 &#8220;Jean Valjean,&#8221; Book  1 &#8220;The War Between Four Walls,&#8221; ch. 21 (5.1.21) (1862) [tr. Hapgood (1887)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are people who observe the rules of honor as one observes the stars, from a great distance. [Il y a des gens qui observent les règles de l’honneur comme on observe les étoiles, de très loin.] Combeferre, on those leaders who had promised on their honor to support the barricades but were nowhere to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are people who observe the rules of honor as one observes the stars, from a great distance.</p>
<p><em>[Il y a des gens qui observent les règles de l’honneur comme on observe les étoiles, de très loin.]</em></p>
<br><b>Victor Hugo</b> (1802–1885) French writer, journalist, human rights activist, politician<br><i>Les Misérables</i>, Part 5 &#8220;Jean Valjean,&#8221; Book  1 &#8220;The War Between Four Walls,&#8221; ch. 21 (5.1.21) (1862) [tr. Hapgood (1887)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables/Volume_5/Book_First/Chapter_21#:~:text=There%20are%20people%20who%20observe%20the%20rules%20of%20honor%20as%20one%20observes%20the%20stars%2C%20from%20a%20great%20distance." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Combeferre, on those leaders who had promised on their honor to support the barricades but were nowhere to be seen when the government troops attacked.<br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables/Tome_5/Livre_1/21#:~:text=Il%20y%20a%20des%20gens%20qui%20observent%20les%20r%C3%A8gles%20de%20l%E2%80%99honneur%20comme%20on%20observe%20les%20%C3%A9toiles%2C%20de%20tr%C3%A8s%20loin.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>There are people who observe the rules of honour as we observe the stars, from afar off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.43835/page/n1055/mode/2up?q=%22rules+of+honour%22">Wilbour</a> (1862)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They are people who observe the rules of honor as they do the stars, a long distance off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lesmiserables0000vict_z1p0/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22observe+the+rules+of+honor%22">Wraxall</a> (1862)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There are people who observe the rules of honour as we do the stars, from a very long way off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lesmiserables0000tran/page/1050/mode/2up?q=%22observe+the+rules+of+honour%22">Denny</a> (1976)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There are people who observe the rules of honour as we observe the stars, from far off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lesmisrabl1987hugo/page/1244/mode/2up?q=%22rules+of+honor%22">Wilbour/Fahnestock/MacAfee</a> (1987)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Roosevelt, Theodore -- Speech (1910-04-23), &#8220;Citizenship in a Republic [The Man in the Arena],&#8221; Sorbonne, Paris</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every honorable effort should always be made to avoid war, just as every honorable effort should always be made by the individual in private life to keep out of a brawl, to keep out of trouble; but no self-respecting individual, no self-respecting nation, can or ought to submit to wrong.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every honorable effort should always be made to avoid war, just as every honorable effort should always be made by the individual in private life to keep out of a brawl, to keep out of trouble; but no self-respecting individual, no self-respecting nation, can or ought to submit to wrong.</p>
<br><b>Theodore Roosevelt</b> (1858–1919) American politician, statesman, conservationist, writer, US President (1901–1909)<br>Speech (1910-04-23), &#8220;Citizenship in a Republic [The Man in the Arena],&#8221; Sorbonne, Paris 
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		<title>Chamfort, Nicolas -- Products of Perfected Civilization [Produits de la Civilisation Perfectionée], Part 1 &#8220;Maxims and Thoughts [Maximes et Pensées],&#8221; ch.  2, ¶ 131 (1795) [tr. Merwin (1969)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Esteem is worth more than celebrity, respect is worth more than renown, and honor is worth more than fame. [L’estime vaut mieux que la célébrité, la considération vaut mieux que la renommée, et l’honneur vaut mieux que la gloire.] (Source (French)). Alternate translations: Esteem is better than celebrity, respect is better than renown, and honour [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esteem is worth more than celebrity, respect is worth more than renown, and honor is worth more than fame.</p>
<p><em>[L’estime vaut mieux que la célébrité, la considération vaut mieux que la renommée, et l’honneur vaut mieux que la gloire.]</em></p>
<br><b>Nicolas Chamfort</b> (1741-1794) French writer, epigrammist (b. Nicolas-Sébastien Roch)<br><i>Products of Perfected Civilization [Produits de la Civilisation Perfectionée]</i>, Part 1 &#8220;Maxims and Thoughts <i>[Maximes et Pensées],&#8221;</i> ch.  2, ¶ 131 (1795) [tr. Merwin (1969)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/productsofperfec0000seba_s1c9/page/130/mode/2up?q=%22esteem+is+worth%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Maximes_et_Pens%C3%A9es_(Chamfort)/%C3%89dition_Bever/2#:~:text=L%E2%80%99estime%20vaut%20mieux%20que%20la%20c%C3%A9l%C3%A9brit%C3%A9%2C%20la%20consid%C3%A9ration%20vaut%20mieux%20que%20la%20renomm%C3%A9e%2C%20et%20l%E2%80%99honneur%20vaut%20mieux%20que%20la%20gloire.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Esteem is better than celebrity, respect is better than renown, and honour than glory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015014501913&view=2up&seq=54&q1=esteem">Mathers</a> (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Esteem is worth more than being celebrated, respect is better than renown, and honour is better than fame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Chamfort_Maxims/J9vwAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=renown">Pearson</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Esteem is worth more than celebrity, consideration is worth more than fame, and honor is worth more than glory.  <br>
[tr. <a href="https://frenchphilosophes.weebly.com/chamfort.html#:~:text=Esteem%20is%20worth%20more%20than%20celebrity%2C%20consideration%20is%20worth%20more%20than%20fame%2C%20and%20honor%20is%20worth%20more%20than%20glory.%20%C2%A0">Siniscalchi</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Moliere -- Le Misanthrope, Act 1, sc. 1 (1666) [tr. Wilbur (1954)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ALCESTE: Esteem is founded on comparison: To honor all men is to honor none. &#160; [Sur quelque préférence une estime se fonde, Et c&#8217;est n&#8217;estimer rien qu&#8217;estimer tout le monde.] (Source (French)). Alternate translations: Preference must be based on esteem, and to esteem every one is to esteem no one. [tr. Van Laun (1878)] Esteem [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">ALCESTE: Esteem is founded on comparison:<br />
To honor all men is to honor none.</p>
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<em>[Sur quelque préférence une estime se fonde,<br />
Et c&#8217;est n&#8217;estimer rien qu&#8217;estimer tout le monde.]</em></p>
<br><b>Molière</b> (1622-1673) French playwright, actor [stage name for Jean-Baptiste Poquelin]<br><i>Le Misanthrope</i>, Act 1, sc. 1 (1666) [tr. Wilbur (1954)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/misanthropetartu00moli/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22esteem+is+founded%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Plays_of_Moli%C3%A8re_in_French_with_a_N/71qHR4Zj1KYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>Preference must be based on esteem, and to esteem every one is to esteem no one.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_dramatic_works_of_Moli%C3%A8re/1on2BpTRSJkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22preference%20must%20be%20based%22">Van Laun</a> (1878)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Esteem must be founded on some preference, and to esteem all the world is to esteem no one.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedies00molirich/page/392/mode/2up?q=%22founded+on+some+preference%22">Mathew</a> (1890)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Esteem is based on preference; to esteem the whole world alike is to feel no esteem for anyone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Moli%C3%A8re/wbLfngFjN_MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22esteem%20is%20based%22">Wormeley</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Preference is based on esteem, and to esteem every one is not to esteem anyone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Plays_of_Moli%C3%A8re_in_French_with_a_N/71qHR4Zj1KYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22based%20on%20esteem%22">Waller</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Real love must rest upon some preference;<br>
You might as well love none, as everybody.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Misanthrope_(Moli%C3%A8re)#:~:text=Real%20love%20must,none%2C%20as%20everybody.">Page</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But true esteem is based on preference; <br>
Esteeming everyone, you esteem nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/eightplaysbymoli00moli/page/224/mode/2up?q=%22true+esteem%22">Bishop</a> (1957)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Esteem, if it be real, means preference,<br>
And when bestowed on all it makes no sense.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/classiccomedies0000unse/page/238/mode/2up?q=%22means+preference%22">Frame</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>On some preference esteem is based; to esteem everything is to esteem nothing.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Familiar_Qutations_A_Collection_of_passa/f1plMLxh5CgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22On+some+preference+esteem+is+based%22&dq=%22On+some+preference+esteem+is+based%22&printsec=frontcover">E.g.</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Arnot, William -- Laws from Heaven for Life on Earth: Illustrations of the Book of Proverbs, ch. 49 (1858)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[She may safely wear elegant garments, who in character and bearing is elegant without their aid. If honour be your clothing, the suit will last a life-time, but if clothing be your honour, it will soon be worn thread-bare. Commentary on Proverbs 31:25: &#8220;Strength and honor are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She may safely wear elegant garments, who in character and bearing is elegant without their aid. If honour be your clothing, the suit will last a life-time, but if clothing be your honour, it will soon be worn thread-bare.</p>
<br><b>William Arnot</b> (1808-1875) Scottish minister and theological writer<br><i>Laws from Heaven for Life on Earth: Illustrations of the Book of Proverbs</i>, ch. 49 (1858) 
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Commentary on <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2031%3A25&version=KJV">Proverbs 31:25</a>: "Strength and honor are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come." [KJV]
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		<title>Chamfort, Nicolas -- Products of Perfected Civilization [Produits de la Civilisation Perfectionée], Part 1 &#8220;Maxims and Thoughts [Maximes et Pensées],&#8221; ch.  1, ¶  85 (1795) [tr. Parmée (2003), ¶ 69]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poets, orators, even philosophes, say the same things about fame we were told as boys to encourage us to win prizes. What they tell children to make them prefer being praised by their nannies to eating jam tarts is the same idea constantly drummed into us to encourage us to sacrifice our real interests in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poets, orators, even <i>philosophes,</i> say the same things about fame we were told as boys to encourage us to win prizes. What they tell children to make them prefer being praised by their nannies to eating jam tarts is the same idea constantly drummed into us to encourage us to sacrifice our real interests in the hope of being praised by our contemporaries or by posterity.<br />
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<em>[Ce que les poètes, les orateurs, même quelques philosophes nous disent sur l’amour de la Gloire, on nous le disait au Collège, pour nous encourager à avoir les prix. Ce que l’on dit aux enfans pour les engager à préférer à une tartelette les louanges de leurs bonnes, c’est ce qu’on répète aux hommes pour leur faire préférer à un intérêt personnel les éloges de leurs contemporains ou de la postérité.]</em></p>
<br><b>Nicolas Chamfort</b> (1741-1794) French writer, epigrammist (b. Nicolas-Sébastien Roch)<br><i>Products of Perfected Civilization [Produits de la Civilisation Perfectionée]</i>, Part 1 &#8220;Maxims and Thoughts <i>[Maximes et Pensées],&#8221;</i> ch.  1, ¶  85 (1795) [tr. Parmée (2003), ¶ 69] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Chamfort/0K0aAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22poets%20orators%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Maximes_et_Pens%C3%A9es_(Chamfort)/%C3%89dition_Bever/1#:~:text=Ce%20que%20les%20po%C3%A8tes,ou%20de%20la%20post%C3%A9rit%C3%A9.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>The things which poets, orators, and even a few philosophers tell us about the love of Glory, are exactly the things we are told at College to encourage us to win prizes. And what they say to children to make them prefer the praise of their nurses to a tartlet, they repeat to grown men to make them prefer the eulogy of their fellows or of posterity to personal advantage.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015014501913&view=2up&seq=42&q1=prizes">Mathers</a> (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All that the poets, the orators, and even certain philosophers tell us about the love of fame we were told at school to urge us to win prizes. All that is said to encourage children to prefer the praise of their mentors to a piece of pie is repeated to men to make them consider their personal profit less desirable than the plaudits of their contemporaries and of posterity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/productsofperfec0000seba_s1c9/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22+All+that+the+poets%22">Merwin</a> (1969)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Things said by poets, orators, even some philosophers, about love of glory, were told to us at the Collège to encourage us to win prizes. What children are told to incline them to prefer a slice of tart to their nurses' approval, is the same as what men are repeatedly told to make them put the commendation of their contemporaries, or that of posterity, before their personal interest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Chamfort_Maxims/J9vwAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22things%20said%20by%20poets%22">Pearson</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What poets, orators, even several philosophers have said about the love of fame, was told to us at school to encourage us to win prizes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/chamfortbiograph00arna/page/71/mode/2up?q=%22prizes">Dusinberre</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What poets, orators, and even philosophers say to us about love of glory is the same as what people said to us in the colleges to encourage us to compete for prizes. What people tell children to make them prefer the praise of their nurses to something silly is the same thing that people repeat to men to make them prefer the praise of their contemporaries or of posterity to their own self-interest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://frenchphilosophes.weebly.com/chamfort.html#:~:text=What%20poets%2C%20orators,own%20self%2Dinterest.">Siniscalchi</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Barzun, Jacques -- Interview (1986-12-04) by John C. Tibbetts, &#8220;Jacques Barzun on Robert Schumann&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My notion about any artist is that we honor him best by reading him, by playing his music, by seeing his plays or by looking at his pictures. We don&#8217;t need to fall all over ourselves with adjectives and epithets. Let&#8217;s play him more.]]></description>
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<br><b>Jacques Barzun</b> (1907-2012) French-American historian, educator, polymath<br>Interview (1986-12-04) by John C. Tibbetts, &#8220;Jacques Barzun on Robert Schumann&#8221; 
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		<title>Horace -- Odes [Carmina], Book 3, #  2, l.  17ff (3.2.17-20) (23 BC) [tr. Gladstone (1894)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Virtue shame is all unknown; She shines with honours of her own; Nor, as the public smile or frown, Takes office up, or lays it down. [Virtus, repulsae nescia sordidae, intaminatis fulget honoribus nec sumit aut ponit securis arbitrio popularis aurae.] The bundle of rods, sometimes encircling an axe, is known as the fasces, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Virtue shame is all unknown;<br />
She shines with honours of her own;<br />
Nor, as the public smile or frown,<br />
Takes office up, or lays it down.</p>
<p><em>[Virtus, repulsae nescia sordidae,<br />
intaminatis fulget honoribus<br />
nec sumit aut ponit securis<br />
arbitrio popularis aurae.]</em></p>
<br><b>Horace</b> (65–8 BC) Roman poet, satirist, soldier, politician [Quintus Horatius Flaccus]<br><i>Odes [Carmina]</i>, Book 3, #  2, l.  17ff (3.2.17-20) (23 BC) [tr. Gladstone (1894)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/a587951400horauoft/page/n95/mode/2up?q=%22To+Virtue+shame%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The bundle of rods, sometimes encircling an axe, is known as the <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces">fasces</a></i>, and was the symbol of government power in Rome. The reference to the axe <em>(securis)</em> is from this symbol.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=aut&la=la&can=aut0&prior=sumit">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Vertue, that ne're repulse admits,<br>
<span class="tab">In taintless honours, glorious sits,<br>
Nor takes, or leaveth Dignities,<br>
<span class="tab">Rais'd with the noise of vulgar cries.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A44478.0001.001/1:6?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=Vertue%2C%20that%20ne%27re,of%20vulgar%20cries.">Sir T. H.</a>; ed. Brome (1666)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vertue, unlearn'd to bear the base<br>
And shameful baffle of disgrace,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor takes, nor quits the tottering Throne,<br>
<span class="tab">As fickle Crowds shall smile or frown;<br>
Nor from their wavering Breath receives the place.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A44471.0001.001/1:5?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=Vertue%2C%20unlearn%27d%20to,receives%20the%20place">Creech</a> (1684)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>True Virtue never knows defeat:<br>
<span class="tab">Her robes she keeps unsullied still,<br>
Nor takes, nor quits, her curule seat<br>
<span class="tab">To please a people's veering will.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0025%3Abook%3D3%3Apoem%3D2#:~:text=True%20Virtue%20never%20knows%20defeat%3A%0AHer%20robes%20she%20keeps%20unsullied%20still%2C%0ANor%20takes%2C%20nor%20quits%2C%20her%20curule%20seat%0ATo%20please%20a%20people%27s%20veering%20will.">Conington</a> (1872)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, unknowing of base repulse, shines with immaculate honors; nor does she assume nor lay aside the ensigns of her dignity, at the veering of the popular air.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_works_of_Horace/Third_Book_of_Odes#:~:text=Virtue%2C%20unknowing%20of%20base%20repulse%2C%20shines%20with%20immaculate%20honors%3B%20nor%20does%20she%20assume%20nor%20lay%20aside%20the%20ensigns%20of%20her%20dignity%2C%20at%20the%20veering%20of%20the%20popular%20air">Smart/Buckley</a> (1853)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Worth, all-indifferent to the spurns<br>
<span class="tab">Of vulgar souls profane, <br>
The honours wears, it proudly earns,<br>
<span class="tab">Unclouded by a stain: <br>
Nor grasps, nor lays the fasces down, <br>
As fickle mobs may smile or frown.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoracetran00horarich/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22Wortli%2C+all-indifferent%22">Martin</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue ne'er knows of a defeat which brings with it disgrace;<br>
The blazon of her honors ne’er the breath of men can stain; <br>
<span class="tab">Her fasces she nor takes nor quits <br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">As veers the popular gale.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesandepodesho05horagoog/page/246/mode/2up?q=%22knows+of+a+defeat%22">Bulwer-Lytton</a> (1870)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue knows not base rejection, is radiant with the purest honour, and neither takes, nor resigns, the axes at the breath of the popular will.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Horace/-f8pAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22virtue%20knows%20not%22">Elgood</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, that knows not how to be overthrown, <br>
Shines with unsullied honours impregnable. <br>
<span class="tab">Nor at the lawless people's bidding<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Does she take up or lay down her honours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoraceinen00horarich/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22Virtue%2C+that+knows%22">Phelps</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue that knows not base defeat<br>
Shines with untarnished honours,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor takes nor lays aside the Consul's axe<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Upon decision by the popular whim.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924026490726/page/n161/mode/2up?q=%22Virtue+%5Bthat+knows%22">Garnsey</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>
True Worth knows not defeat, and still preserves <br>
His robe unsullied by base Envy's stain; <br>
<span class="tab">He takes not nor quits power again,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">As mob-mood sways and swerves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/horacescompletew00hora/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22True+Worth+knows%22">Marshall</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>True worth, that never knows ignoble defeat, shines with undimmed glory, nor takes up nor lays aside the axes at the fickle mob’s behest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.98705/page/n201/mode/2up?q=%22True+worth%2C+that+never%22">Bennett</a> (Loeb) (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, secure from shameful rout,<br>
<span class="tab">With honours all-unstained shines out;<br>
Nor takes, nor drops, authority<br>
<span class="tab">To suit the crowd's oft-changing cry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoracemills00horaiala/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22Virtue%2C+secure+from%22">Mills</a> (1924)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Unconscious of mere loss of votes and shining <br>
<span class="tab">With honours that the mob's breath cannot dim, <br>
True worth is not found raising or resigning <br>
<span class="tab">The fasces at the wind of popular whim.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhorace0000hora/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22unconscious+of+mere%22">Michie</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue has no concern with reputation, <br>
Shines for its own sake, neither takes up <br>
Arms nor lays them down<br>
Because the mob tells it so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essentialhoraceo0000hora/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22virtue+has+no+concern%22">Raffel</a> (1983)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, rejecting everything that's sordid,<br>
Shines with unblemished honor, nor takes up office<br>
Nor puts it down persuaded by any shift<br>
Of the popular wind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhorace00hora_1/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22virtue+rejecting%22">Ferry</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, unconscious of disgraceful defeat,<br>
shines with unsullied honors<br>
<span class="tab">nor does she raise up or lay down the Fasces<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">at the mere murmuring of the mob.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeodessati0000hora/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22virtue+unconscious%22">Willett</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue, that’s ignorant of sordid defeat,<br>
shines out with its honour unstained, and never<br>
takes up the axes or puts them down<br>
at the request of a changeable mob.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceOdesBkIII.php#:~:text=Virtue%2C%20that%E2%80%99s%20ignorant,a%20changeable%20mob.">Kline</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Courage, unaware of putrid defeat,<br>
gleams with unblemished honours,<br>
and neither takes nor places the axes<br>
on the judgement of the common ear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Odes_(Horace)/Book_III/2#:~:text=Courage%2C%20unaware%20of%20putrid%20defeat%2C%0Agleams%20with%20unblemished%20honours%2C%0Aand%20neither%20takes%20nor%20places%20the%20axes%0Aon%20the%20judgement%20of%20the%20common%20ear.">Wikisource</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>La Rochefoucauld, Francois -- Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims],  ¶84 (1665-1678) [tr. Heard (1917)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should be more ashamed to distrust our friends than to be deceived by them. &#160; [Il est plus honteux de se défier de ses amis que d’en être trompé.] First appeared in the second (1666) edition. Compare to Maxim 86, also from that edition: &#8220;Our distrust justifies the deception of others [Notre défiance justifie [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should be more ashamed to distrust our friends than to be deceived by them.<br />
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<em>[Il est plus honteux de se défier de ses amis que d’en être trompé.]</em></p>
<br><b>François VI, duc de La Rochefoucauld</b> (1613-1680) French epigrammatist, memoirist, noble<br><i>Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims]</i>,  ¶84 (1665-1678) [tr. Heard (1917)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Maxims_of_Le_Duc_de_La_Rochefoucauld/eq89AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22be%20more%20ashamed%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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First appeared in the second (1666) edition. Compare to <a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/%C5%92uvres_de_La_Rochefoucauld_-_T.1/R%C3%A9flexions_ou_sentences_et_maximes_morales#:~:text=Notre%20d%C3%A9fiance%20justifie%20la%20tromperie%20d%E2%80%99autrui">Maxim 86</a>, also from that edition: "Our distrust justifies the deception of others <em>[Notre défiance justifie la tromperie d’autrui.]"</em><br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/%C5%92uvres_de_La_Rochefoucauld_-_T.1/R%C3%A9flexions_ou_sentences_et_maximes_morales#:~:text=Il%20est%20plus%20honteux%20de%20se%20d%C3%A9fier%20de%20ses%20amis%20que%20d%E2%80%99en%20%C3%AAtre%20tromp%C3%A9">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is much less for a Man's Honour to distrust his Friends, than to be deceived by them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A49601.0001.001?rgn=main;view=fulltext#:~:text=It%20is%20much%20less%20for%20a%20Man%27s%20Honour%20to%20%E2%80%A2istrust%20his%20Friends%2C%20than%20to%20be%20deceived%20by%20%E2%80%A2hem.">Stanhope</a> (1694), ¶85]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more dishonourable to distrust a friend, than to be deceived by him.<br>
[pub. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsandmoralr00rochgoog/page/n67/mode/2up?q=%22m6re+diflioiiourable%22">Donaldson</a> (1783), ¶171; ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsmoralrefle00larouoft/page/30/mode/2up">Lepoittevin-Lacroix</a> (1797), ¶81; ed. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044019833292&view=2up&seq=54&skin=2021&q1=dishonourable">Carvill</a> (1835), ¶151]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more disgraceful to distrust; one's friends than to be deceived by them.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433075829600&view=2up&seq=72&skin=2021&q1=distrust%27">Gowens</a> (1851), ¶87] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more disgraceful to distrust than to be deceived by our friends.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/files/9105/9105-h/9105-h.htm#:~:text=It%20is%20more%20disgraceful%20to%20distrust%20than%20to%20be%20deceived%20by%20our%20friends.">Bund/Friswell</a> (1871), ¶84]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more disgraceful to mistrust one's friends than to be the victim of their treachery.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Maxims_of_Fran%C3%A7ois_Duc_de_La_Rochef/MhZEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22disgraceful%20to%20mistrust%22">Stevens</a> (1939), ¶84]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more shameful to distrust one's friends than to be deceived by them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsofducdelar0000laro/page/48/mode/2up">FitzGibbon</a> (1957), ¶84; tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maxims0000laro/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22deceived+by+them%22">Tancock</a> (1959), ¶84]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is more shameful to distrust our friends than to be deceived by them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsoflarochef00laro/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22distrust+our+friends%22">Kronenberger</a> (1959), ¶84; tr. <a href="https://thomaswhichello.com/a-translation-of-reflections-or-sentences-and-moral-maxims-by-francois-de-la-rochefoucauld/#:~:text=It%20is%20more%20shameful%20to%20distrust%20our%20friends%20than%20to%20be%20deceived%20by%20them.">Whichello</a> (2016), ¶84]</blockquote><br>



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		<title>Montesquieu -- Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes], Letter  91, Usbek to Ibben (1721) [tr. Davidson (1891)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this account violence prevails amongst the French; for these laws of honour require a gentleman to avenge himself when he has been insulted; but, on the other hand, justice punishes him unmercifully when he does so. If one follows the laws of honour, one dies upon the scaffold; if one follows those of justice, one is banished for ever from the society of men: this, then, is the barbarous alternative, either to die, or to be unworthy to live.<br />
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<em>[Ainsi les François sont dans un état bien violent : car les mêmes lois de l’honneur obligent un honnête homme de se venger quand il a été offensé ; mais, d’un autre côté, la justice le punit des plus cruelles peines lorsqu’il se venge. Si l’on suit les lois de l’honneur, on périt sur un échafaud ; si l’on suit celles de la justice, on est banni pour jamais de la société des hommes. Il n’y a donc que cette cruelle alternative, ou de mourir, ou d’être indigne de vivre.]</em></p>
<br><b>Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu</b> (1689-1755) French political philosopher<br><i>Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes]</i>, Letter  91, Usbek to Ibben (1721) [tr. Davidson (1891)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Persian_Letters/Letter_91#:~:text=On%20this%20account,unworthy%20to%20live." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Lettres_persanes/Lettre_91#:~:text=Ainsi%20les%20Fran%C3%A7ois,indigne%20de%20vivre.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>So that the French are in a state of great violence: for, on one hand, the laws of honour oblige a man to revenge himself if he is affronted; and, on the other, justice inflicts the most cruel punishments upon him for doing so. If you follow the laws of honour, you lose your head upon a scaffold; if those of justice, you are driven out for ever from the society of men; so that you have only the unhappy choice either of dying, or being unworthy to live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters_Translated_by_Mr_Ozell_T/LEZiAAAAcAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22so%20that%20the%20french%22">Ozell</a> (1760 ed.)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So that the French are in a great state of violence: for these laws of honour oblige a well bred man to revenge himself when he hath been affronted; but, on the other hand, justice punishes him with the severest penalties when he hath done so. If men follow the laws of honour, they die upon a scaffold \; if those of justice, they are banished for ever from the society of men: there is then only this cruel alternative, either to die, or to be unworthy to live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_persian-letters-by-m-_montesquieu-charles-de-_1762_1/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22So+that+the+French%22">Floyd</a> (1762), # 90]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Accordingly, the French are in a very perturbed condition; for the laws of honor compel a gentleman to avenge himself when he has been insulted; and, on the other hand, justice punishes him with the severest penalties when he has avenged himself. If a man obey the laws of honor, he dies on the scaffold; if he obey the laws of justice, he is forever shunned by his fellow-men; this, then, is the cruel alternative, either to die, or to be unworthy to live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/persianletters00degoog/page/n218/mode/2up?q=%22Accordingly%2C+the+French%22">Betts</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And so the French remain in a state of violence, for the laws of honor require a gentleman to avenge himself if insulted; but justice, on the other hand, punishes him cruelly for his vengeance. If you follow the laws of honor, you perish on the scaffold; but to follow the laws of justice means perpetual banishment from the society of men. There is, then, only this harsh alternative: to die or to be unworthy of life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/montesquieu-persian-letters-healy/page/n163/mode/2up?q=%22and+so+the+french%22">Healy</a> (1964)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So the French find themselves in a most dire situation: for those same laws of honour oblige a gentleman to avenge himself if he has been offended, but, on the other hand, the offices of justice punish him in the harshest manner when he does take his revenge. If he obeys the laws of honour, he dies upon the scaffold; if he obeys the laws of the land, he is banished for ever from the society of men. All he can do, then, is choose between these cruel alternatives: to die, or to be unworthy of living.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/BT7dISXhzowC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22so%20the%20french%20find%22">Mauldon</a> (2008), # 88]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Orationes in Catilinam [Catilinarian Orations], No. 1, § 12, cl. 29 (1.12.29) (63-11-08 BC) [tr. Grant (1960)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I certainly had not the smallest reason to fear that the execution of this murderer of Roman citizens would cause me to be blamed by posterity. And indeed, even if this were a serious danger, I have always been convinced that unpopularity earned by honourable actions is not unpopularity at all, but renown. &#160; [Certe [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly had not the smallest reason to fear that the execution of this murderer of Roman citizens would cause me to be blamed by posterity. And indeed, even if this were a serious danger, I have always been convinced that unpopularity earned by honourable actions is not unpopularity at all, but renown.<br />
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<em>[Certe verendum mihi non erat, ne quid hoc parricida civium interfecto invidiae mihi in posteritatem redundaret. Quodsi ea mihi maxime inpenderet tamen hoc animo fui semper, ut invidiam virtute partam gloriam, non invidiam putarem.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Orationes in Catilinam [Catilinarian Orations]</i>, No. 1, § 12, cl. 29 (1.12.29) (63-11-08 BC) [tr. Grant (1960)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.u.arizona.edu/~afutrell/republic/cic1stcatilin.html#:~:text=I%20certainly%20had,all%2C%20but%20renown." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/cicero/cat1.shtml#:~:text=Quodsi%20ea%20mihi%20maxime%20inpenderet%20tamen%20hoc%20animo%20fui%20semper%2C%20ut%20invidiam%20virtute%20partam%20gloriam%2C%20non%20invidiam%20putarem.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>Truly I have no reason to fear, least this Murderer of the Citizens being slain, any envy should rise against me for the future. But if never so much did hang over me, yet I was alwayes of this Judgment, to think Envy gotten by Vertue to be no Envy but Glory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A33148.0001.001/1:5?c=eebo;c=eebo2;cite1=Cicero;cite1restrict=author;g=eebogroup;rgn=div1;view=fulltext;xc=1;q1=catiline#:~:text=Truly%20I%20have%20no%20reason%20to%20fear%2C%20least%20this%20Murderer%20of%20the%20Citizens%20being%20slain%2C%20any%20envy%20should%20rise%20against%20me%20for%20the%20future.%20But%20if%20never%20so%20much%20did%20hang%20over%20me%2C%20yet%20I%20was%20alwayes%20of%20this%20Judgment%2C%20to%20think%20Envy%20gotten%20by%20Vertue%20to%20be%20no%20Envy%20but%20Glory.">Wase</a> (1671)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I could have no reason to fear; that for the execution of a traitor and a parricide I should stand condemned by the voice of posterity. But let me add, were the severest censure to be the certain consequence, it has ever been my settled opinion, that reproach, when earned by virtue, is not reproach, but the truest glory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_the-history-of-catiline_sallust_1795/page/n147/mode/2up?q=%22were+the+severest+censure%22">Sydney</a> (1795)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Surely I had no cause to fear lest for slaying this parricidal murderer of the citizens any unpopularity should accrue to me with posterity. And if it did threaten me to ever so great a degree, yet I have always been of the disposition to think unpopularity earned by virtue and glory, not unpopularity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://lexundria.com/cic_cat/1/y#:~:text=surely%20I%20had,glory%2C%20not%20unpopularity.">Yonge</a> (1856)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Surely it was not to be dreaded by me, lest, if this parricide of the citizens were slain, any odium might redound for me to posterity. But if that impended over myself in particular, yet I have always been of this opinion, that I should consider the odium acquired by merit as glory and not as odium.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_four_orations_of_Cicero_against_Cati/NNAIAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20to%20be%20dreaded%20by%20me%22">Mongan</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Certainly it was not to be feared to (by) me, lest any (thing) of unpopularity might redound to me unto posterity, this parricide of citizens being slain. But if it might impend (threaten) to me mostly (very much), yet I have been always with this mind, that I might think envy produced by virtue, glory, not envy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectorationso00ci/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22certainly+it+was+not+to-be-feared%22">Underwood</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Certainly it was not to be feared by me, lest any ill-will should redound to [affect] me for posterity, this parricide of citizens having been slain. But if this should threaten me very much, yet I have been always with [of] this mind, that I should think ill will produced by virtue, glory, not ill will.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cicerosselectedo00cice/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22certe+erat+non%22">Dewey</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Certainly I did not have to fear, lest with this parricide of citizens having been killed, anything of unpopularity might run over in posterity. And yet, if these were to threaten me especially, however, I have always been in this mind, so that I thought that unpopularity obtained by virtue is an honour, not unpopularity at all.<br>
[<a href="https://ibnotes.tripod.com/Subjects/Latin/catiline1.pdf">IB Notes</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have always been of the opinion that infamy earned by doing what is right is not infamy at all, but glory.<br>
[<a href="https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cicero#:~:text=I%20have%20always%20been%20of%20the%20opinion%20that%20infamy%20earned%20by%20doing%20what%20is%20right%20is%20not%20infamy%20at%20all%2C%20but%20glory.">E.g.</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Gay, John -- &#8220;The Pack-Horse and Carrier (To a young Nobleman),&#8221; ll. 41-42</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whence had you this illustrious name? From virtue and unblemish&#8217;d fame. By birth the name alone descends; Your honour on yourself depends: Think not your coronet can hide Assuming ignorance and pride. Learning by study must be won, &#8216;Twas ne&#8217;er entail&#8217;d from son to son. Some printings of the poem leave off the prologue, of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whence had you this illustrious name?<br />
From virtue and unblemish&#8217;d fame.<br />
By birth the name alone descends;<br />
Your honour on yourself depends:<br />
Think not your coronet can hide<br />
Assuming ignorance and pride.<br />
Learning by study must be won,<br />
&#8216;Twas ne&#8217;er entail&#8217;d from son to son. </p>
<br><b>John Gay</b> (1685-1732) English poet and playwright<br>&#8220;The Pack-Horse and Carrier (To a young Nobleman),&#8221; ll. 41-42 
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Some printings of the poem leave off the prologue, of which this is a part.
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		<title>Goethe, Johann von -- Die Leiden des Jungen Werthers [The Sorrows of Young Werther], Book 1, &#8220;July 20&#8221; (1774) [tr. Boylen (1854)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world runs on from one folly to another; and the man who, solely from regard to the opinion of others, and without any wish or necessity of his own, toils after gold, honour, or any other phantom, is no better than a fool. [Alles in der Welt läuft doch auf eine Lumperei hinaus, und [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world runs on from one folly to another; and the man who, solely from regard to the opinion of others, and without any wish or necessity of his own, toils after gold, honour, or any other phantom, is no better than a fool.</p>
<p><em>[Alles in der Welt läuft doch auf eine Lumperei hinaus, und ein Mensch, der um anderer willen, ohne daß es seine eigene Leidenschaft, sein eigenes Bedürfnis ist, sich um Geld oder Ehre oder sonst was abarbeitet, ist immer ein Tor.]</em></p>
<br><b>Johann Wolfgang von Goethe</b> (1749-1832) German poet, statesman, scientist<br><i>Die Leiden des Jungen Werthers [The Sorrows of Young Werther]</i>, Book 1, &#8220;July 20&#8221; (1774) [tr. Boylen (1854)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Works_of_J._W._von_Goethe/Volume_6/The_Sorrows_of_Young_Werther/Book_1#:~:text=The%20world%20runs%20on%20from%20one%20folly%20to%20another%3B%20and%20the%20man%20who%2C%20solely%20from%20regard%20to%20the%20opinion%20of%20others%2C%20and%20without%20any%20wish%20or%20necessity%20of%20his%20own%2C%20toils%20after%20gold%2C%20honour%2C%20or%20any%20other%20phantom%2C%20is%20no%20better%20than%20a%20fool." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2407/pg2407.html#:~:text=Alles%20in%20der%20Welt%20l%C3%A4uft%20doch%20auf%20eine%20Lumperei%20hinaus%2C%20und%20ein%20Mensch%2C%20der%20um%20anderer%20willen%2C%20ohne%20da%C3%9F%20es%20seine%20eigene%20Leidenschaft%2C%20sein%20eigenes%20Bed%C3%BCrfnis%20ist%2C%20sich%20um%20Geld%20oder%20Ehre%20oder%20sonst%20was%20abarbeitet%2C%20ist%20immer%20ein%20Tor.">Source (German)</a>). Alternate translation:<br><br>

<blockquote>A man who works at another’s will, not for his own passion or his own need, but for money or honor, is always a fool.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/They_Said_It_First/iQCQDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22man+who+works+at+another%E2%80%99s+will%22&pg=PA235&printsec=frontcover">tr. 1779</a>]</blockquote><br>




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		<title>Confucius -- The Analects [論語, 论语, Lúnyǔ], Book  8, verse 13, sec. 3 (8.13.3) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Li (2020)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[People feel shameful to be poor and underprivileged in a well-run country. You should feel shameful if you are rich and aristocratic in a decadent and corrupt country. [邦有道、貧且賤焉、恥也、邦無道、富且貴焉、恥也。] Brooks (below) says that this analect was added into Book 8 at the time of Book 14 being produced. (Source (Chinese)). Alternate translations: When a country [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People feel shameful to be poor and underprivileged in a well-run country. You should feel shameful if you are rich and aristocratic in a decadent and corrupt country.</p>
<p>[邦有道、貧且賤焉、恥也、邦無道、富且貴焉、恥也。]</p>
<br><b>Confucius</b> (c. 551- c. 479 BC) Chinese philosopher, sage, politician [孔夫子 (Kǒng Fūzǐ, K'ung Fu-tzu, K'ung Fu Tse), 孔子 (Kǒngzǐ, Chungni), 孔丘 (Kǒng Qiū, K'ung Ch'iu)]<br><i>The Analects</i> [論語, 论语, <i>Lúnyǔ]</i>, Book  8, verse 13, sec. 3 (8.13.3) (6th C. BC &#8211; AD 3rd C.) [tr. Li (2020)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Confucius_Analects_%E8%AB%96%E8%AA%9E/Z_AFEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22people%20feel%20shameful%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Brooks (below) says that this analect was added into Book 8 at the time of Book 14 being produced.<br><br> 

(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/VIII#:~:text=%E9%82%A6%E6%9C%89%E9%81%93%E3%80%81%E8%B2%A7%E4%B8%94%E8%B3%A4%E7%84%89%E3%80%81%E6%81%A5%E4%B9%9F%E3%80%81%E9%82%A6%E7%84%A1%E9%81%93%E3%80%81%E5%AF%8C%E4%B8%94%E8%B2%B4%E7%84%89%E3%80%81%E6%81%A5%E4%B9%9F%E3%80%82">Source (Chinese)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>When a country is well-governed, poverty and a mean condition are things to be ashamed of. When a country is ill-governed, riches and honour are things to be ashamed of.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Classics/Volume_1/Confucian_Analects/VIII#:~:text=When%20a%20country%20is%20well%2Dgoverned%2C%20poverty,honour%20are%20things%20to%20be%20ashamed%20of.">Legge</a> (1861)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Under a good government it will be a disgrace to him if he remain in poverty and low estate; under a bad one it would be equally disgraceful to him to hold riches and honours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.25525/page/101/mode/2up?q=%22Under+a+good+government+it+will%22">Jennings</a> (1895)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When there is justice and order in the government of his own country, he should be ashamed to be poor and without honour; but when there is no justice in the government of his own country he should be ashamed to be rich and honoured.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/TheDiscoursesAndSayingsOfConfucius/page/n83/mode/2up?q=%22ashamed+to+be+poor+and+without%22">Ku Hung-Ming</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When law and order prevail in his State, he is ashamed to be needy and of no account. When law and order fail, he is ashamed to be in affluence and honour.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/I-O4nmWeSnwC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ashamed%20to%20be%20needy%22">Soothill</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When a state is functioning, poverty and meanness are shameful; when a state is in chaos (ill governed) riches and honours are shameful. [Let us say: under a corrupt government.]<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.4505/page/n51/mode/2up?q=%22poverty+and+meanness%22">Pound</a> (1933)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the Way prevails in your own land, count it a disgrace to be needy and obscure; when the Way does not prevail in your land, then count it a disgrace to be rich and honoured.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_a6y6/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+honoured%22">Waley</a> (1938)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If a state is following The Right Way, it is a disgrace to be in poverty and a low estate therein; if not, it is a disgrace to be rich and honored therein.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.20677/page/76/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+honored%22">Ware</a> (1950)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a shameful matter to be poor and humble when the Way prevails in the state. Equally, it is a shameful matter to be rich and noble when the Way falls into disuse in the state.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectslunyu00conf/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+noble%22">Lau</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the Way prevails in your own state, to be made poor and obscure by it is a disgrace; but when teh Way does not prevail in your own state, to be made rich and honourable by it is a disgrace.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf_d2c3/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+honourable%22">Dawson</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In a country where the Way prevails, it is shameful to remain poor and obscure; in a country which has lost the Way, it is shameful to become rich and honored.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/kj_Kl9l0RZQC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22In%20a%20country%20where%20the%20Way%20prevails%20it%22">Leys</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the state possesses the Way and you are poor and lowly, it is a shame; when the state loses the Way and you are rich and noble, it is also a shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc00unse_0/page/98/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+noble%22">Huang</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If the country is on the right way, it is the shame to be poor and low; If the country is not on the right way, it is the shame to be rich and honor.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc00conf_1/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22rich+and+honor%22">Cai/Yu</a> (1998), #201]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a disgrace to remain poor and without rank when the way prevails in the state; it is a disgrace to be wealthy and of noble rank when it does not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analectsofconfuc0000conf_e9q2/page/122/mode/2up?q=%22noble+rank+when%22">Ames/Rosemont</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the state has the Way, to be poor and humble in it is shameful; when the state has not the Way, to be wealthy and honored in it is shameful.<br> 
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/originalanalects0000conf/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22honored+in+it%22">Brooks/Brooks</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the Way rules in your country, there's shame in poverty and obscurity; when the Way's lost in your country, there's shame in wealth and renown.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/analects0000conf/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22wealth+and+renown%22">Hinton</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In a state that has the Way, to be poor and of low status is a cause for shame; in a state that is without the Way, to be wealthy and honored is equally a cause for shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://confucius.page/category/analects/analects-book-eight/#:~:text=In%20a%20state%20that%20has%20the%20Way%2C%20to%20be%20poor%20and%20of%20low%20status%20is%20a%20cause%20for%20shame%3B%20in%20a%20state%20that%20is%20without%20the%20Way%2C%20to%20be%20wealthy%20and%20honored%20is%20equally%20a%20cause%20for%20shame.">Slingerland</a> (2003)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the state follows the Way, being poor and lowly is a cause for shame. When the state is without the Way, being rich and eminent is a cause for shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects_of_Confucius/nw8ywCP7w8gC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22rich%20and%20eminent%22">Watson</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When the moral way prevails in a state, being poor and lowly is a cause for shame.  When the moral way does not prevail in the world, having wealth and position is a cause for shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Analects/7czwAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22When%20the%20moral%20way%20prevails%20in%20a%20state%22">Chin</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Bacchæ [Βάκχαι], l.  877ff, Stasimon 3 (Ode 4), Refrain [Chorus/Χορός] (405 BC) [tr. Vellacott (1973)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What prayer should we call wise? What gift of Heaven should man Count a more noble prize, A prayer more prudent, than To stretch a conquering arm Over the fallen crest Of those who wished us harm? And what is noble every heart loves best. [τί τὸ σοφόν; ἢ τί τὸ κάλλιον παρὰ θεῶν γέρας [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What prayer should we call wise?<br />
<span class="tab">What gift of Heaven should man<br />
Count a more noble prize,<br />
<span class="tab">A prayer more prudent, than<br />
To stretch a conquering arm<br />
<span class="tab">Over the fallen crest<br />
Of those who wished us harm?<br />
<span class="tab">And what is noble every heart loves best.</p>
<p>[τί τὸ σοφόν; ἢ τί τὸ κάλλιον<br />
παρὰ θεῶν γέρας ἐν βροτοῖς<br />
ἢ χεῖρ᾽ ὑπὲρ κορυφᾶς<br />
880τῶν ἐχθρῶν κρείσσω κατέχειν;<br />
ὅ τι καλὸν φίλον ἀεί.]</span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Bacchæ</i> [Βάκχαι], l.  877ff, Stasimon 3 (Ode 4), Refrain [Chorus/Χορός] (405 BC) [tr. Vellacott (1973)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000phil/page/208/mode/2up?q=%22what+prayer%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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While the passage seems to praise the putting down of one's enemies as the greatest gift of the gods, some modern scholars suggest the final line raises doubts or disagrees with that conclusion.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0091%3Acard%3D862#:~:text=%CF%84%CE%AF%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B8%20%CF%83%CE%BF%CF%86%CF%8C%CE%BD,%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CE%B5%CE%AF.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>What greater privilege 'midst the fell debate<br>
Can sage or chieftain from the Gods request<br>
<span class="tab">Than that of ever fast'ning on the crest<br>
<span class="tab">Of the miscreant whom we hate?<br>
Pleasure with unsullied fame<br>
<span class="tab">Ever must alliance claim.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/386/mode/2up?q=%22What++greater++privlege%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? Or what greater honor do the gods give to mortals than to hold one's hand in strength over the head of enemies? What is good is always dear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0092%3Acard%3D862#:~:text=What%20is%20wisdom%3F%20Or%20what%20greater%20honor%20do%20the%20gods%20give%20to%20mortals%20than%20to%20hold%20one%27s%20hand%20%5B880%5D%20in%20strength%20over%20the%20head%20of%20enemies%3F%20What%20is%20good%20is%20always%20dear.">Buckley</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisest? what is fairest,<br>
<span class="tab">Of god's boons to man the rarest?<br>
With the conscious conquering hand<br>
<span class="tab">Above the foeman's head to stand.<br>
What is fairest still is dearest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_x9h8/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisest%22">Milman</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What wiser and what nobler gift<br>
Can the good gods bestow on man, <br>
Than when his hands they strengthen, till<br>
He conquers o’er his foeman’s head:<br>
That which is noble, ever is dear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaerogers00euri/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22What+wiser+and+what+nobler+gift%22">Rogers</a> (1872)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is true wisdom, or what fairer boon has heaven placed in mortals’ reach, than to gain the mastery o’er a fallen foe? What is fair is dear for aye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/The_Bacchantes#cite_ref-52:~:text=the%20bosky%20grove.-,What%20is%20true%20wisdom%2C%20or%20what%20fairer%20boon%20has%20heaven%20placed%20in%20mortals%E2%80%99%20reach%2C%20than%20to%20gain%20the%20mastery%20o%E2%80%99er%20a%20fallen%20foe%3F%20What%20is%20fair%20is%20dear%20for%20aye.,-Though%20slow%20be">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What wisdom's crown, what guerdon, shines more glorious<br>
<span class="tab">That Gods can give the sons of men, than this -- <br>
O'er crests of foes to stretch the hand victorious? <br>
<span class="tab">Honour is precious evermore, I wis.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/The_Bacchanals#cite_ref-21:~:text=the%20forest%2Dsolitudes!-,What%20wisdom%27s%20crown%2C%20what%20guerdon%2C%20shines%20more%20glorious,Honour%20is%20precious%20evermore%2C%20I%20wis.,-(Ant.)">Way</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What else is Wisdom? What of man's endeavour<br>
<span class="tab">Or God's high grace, so lovely and so great?<br>
<span class="tab">To stand from fear set free, to breathe and wait;<br>
<span class="tab">To hold a hand uplifted over Hate;<br>
And shall not Loveliness be loved for ever?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35173/pg35173-images.html#:~:text=What%20else%20is%20Wisdom%3F%20What%20of%20man%27s%20endeavour%0A%20%20Or%20God%27s%20high%20grace%2C%20so%20lovely%20and%20so%20great%3F%0A%20%20To%20stand%20from%20fear%20set%20free%2C%20to%20breathe%20and%20wait%3B%0A%20%20To%20hold%20a%20hand%20uplifted%20over%20Hate%3B%0AAnd%20shall%20not%20Loveliness%20be%20loved%20for%20ever%3F">Murray</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? What gift of the gods<br>
is held in honor like this:<br>
to hold your hand victorious<br>
over the heads of those you hate?<br>
Honor is precious forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripidesv00euri/page/200/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisdom%22">Arrowsmith</a> (1960)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? Or what fairer<br>
gift from the gods in men's eyes<br>
than to hold the hand of power<br>
over the head of one's enemies?<br>
And "what is fair is always followed."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_w7z7/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisdom%22">Kirk</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom, ah! what fairer thing<br>
to mortal men can the gods bestow<br>
than holding high overhead<br>
a firmer first over the foe?<br>
The fair is dear, and forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070928000447/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mattneub/downloads/bacchae.pdf">Neuburg</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? Which<br>
of all the God-given gifts<br>
is more beneficial to man<br>
than the power to hold<br>
an enemy powerless at bay?<br>
That which is good is welcome forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3f3/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisdom%22">Cacoyannis</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? Or what lovelier gift<br>
From the gods, in moral eyes<br>
Than to hold a stronger hand<br>
Over enemy heads:<br>
Honor is dear -- always.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_h0w4/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisdom%22">Blessington</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What good is mere cleverness? <br>
Or rather, what god-given gifts<br>
bring more honor to mortals<br>
than to hold the hand of mastery<br>
over the head of the enemy?<br>
Whatever is honorable is dear always.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid0000euri/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22what+good+is+mere+cleverness%22">Esposito</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wise? What is the finest gift<br>
that gods can give to mortals?<br>
A hand on the heads<br>
of their enemies, pushing down?<br>
[No.] What is fine is loved always.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_s0g4/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wise%22">Woodruff</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wise? What fit from the gods<br>
Do mortals judge more beautiful<br>
Than to hold our outstretched<br>
Strong hand over an enemy's head?<br>
What is beautiful is what is always loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeotherplay0000euri_p0i4/page/278/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wise%22">Gibbons/Segal</a> (2000)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What good is cleverness? Is there any god-given privilege<br>
nobler than the sight of men<br>
than to hold one's hand in triumph<br>
over the heads of foes?<br>
What is noble is always loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeiphigenia00euri/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22what+good+is+cleverness%22">Kovacs</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is true wisdom?<br>
What is beauty?<br>
What could be better<br>
Than in your hand to hold<br>
Your enemy's fate?<br>
Beauty is always truth;<br>
And truth beauty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchai0000euri/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+true+wisdom%22">Teevan</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">What better, what wiser gift a god could give to men than to hold their hand high above their head as a sign of victory over their enemy?<br>
<span class="tab">I always admire the good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/bacchae/#:~:text=Chorus%3A%0AWhat,admire%20the%20good.">Theodoridis</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is it to be wise? And what gift of the<br>
Immortals is more gracious in humans?<br>
Is it holding your hand over<br>
Your enemies’ head?<br>
What's right is always welcome.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://euripidesofathens.blogspot.com/2008/01/chorvs-shall-i-ever-in-nightlong-dances.html#:~:text=What%20is%20it%20to%20be%20wise%3F%20And%20what%20gift%20of%20the%0AImmortals%20is%20more%20gracious%20in%20humans%3F%0AIs%20it%20holding%20your%20hand%20over%0AYour%20enemies%E2%80%99%20head%3F%0AWhat%27s%20right%20is%20always%20welcome.">Valerie</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? What is finer than the rights <br>
men get from gods -- to hold their powerful hands<br>
over the heads of their enemies?<br>
Ah yes, what's good is always loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bacchae/o4JeCg6u18oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22what%20is%20wisdom%22">Johnston</a> (2008), l. 1079ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom?<br>
The greatest gift of the gods is honour:<br>
to reach your hand in triumph up<br>
over the heads of the enemy.<br>
Honour is everything.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3z6/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+wisdom%22">Robertson</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom? Here, now?<br>
What is the highest blessing of gods to mortals?<br>
It is to stretch out your hand<br>
over the head of the one you hate,<br>
the one that hates you,<br>
and know your strength is greater.<br>
Doesn’t that always feel <i>good?</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://the-mercurian.com/2019/12/13/the-bacchae/#:~:text=among%20young%20trees.-,What%20is%20wisdom%3F%20Here%2C%20now%3F%0AWhat%20is%20the%20highest%20blessing%20of%20gods%20to%20mortals%3F%0AIt%20is%20to%20stretch%20out%20your%20hand%0Aover%20the%20head%20of%20the%20one%20you%20hate%2C%0Athe%20one%20that%20hates%20you%2C%0Aand%20know%20your%20strength%20is%20greater.%0ADoesn%E2%80%99t%20that%20always%20feel%20good%3F,-The%20strength%20of">Pauly</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What wisdom should guide us? What gift of the gods do people prize more than a strong hand to hold over an enemy's head? Honor is always loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacchae_of_Euripides/UmCTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20wisdom%20should%20guide%20us%22&printsec=frontcover">Behr/Foster</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is wisdom <i>[sophon]</i>? Or what finer prize <br>
do the gods give to mortals than to hold one’s hand<br>
in victory over the head of one’s enemies?<br>
Whatever is beautiful <i>[kalon]</i> is near and dear <i>[philon]</i> forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-bacchae-sb/#:~:text=What%20is%20wisdom%20%5B%20sophon%20%5D%3F%20Or%20what%20finer%20prize%20do%20the%20gods%20give%20to%20mortals%20than%20to%20hold%20one%E2%80%99s%20hand%20880%20in%20victory%20over%20the%20head%20of%20one%E2%80%99s%20enemies%3F%20881%20Whatever%20is%20beautiful%20%5B%20kalon%20%5D%20is%20near%20and%20dear%20%5B%20philon%20%5D%20forever.">Buckley/Sens/Nagy</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>De Levis, Pierre-Marc-Gaston -- Maximes et Essais sur Différents Sujets,  &#8220;Pensées Détachées,&#8221; # 180 (1808)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is because gold is rare that gilding has been invented, which, without having its solidity, has all its brilliance. &#8212; Thus, to replace the kindness we lack, we have devised politeness, which has all its appearance. [C&#8217;est parce que l&#8217;or est rare que l&#8217;on a inventé la dorure, qui, sans en avoir la solidité, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is because gold is rare that gilding has been invented, which, without having its solidity, has all its brilliance. &#8212; Thus, to replace the kindness we lack, we have devised politeness, which has all its appearance.</p>
<p><em>[C&#8217;est parce que l&#8217;or est rare que l&#8217;on a inventé la dorure, qui, sans en avoir la solidité, en a tout le brillant. Ainsi, pour remplacer la bonté qui nous manque, nous avons imaginé la politesse, qui en a toutes les apparences.]</em></p>
<br><b>Pierre-Marc-Gaston de Lévis</b> (1764-1830) French noble, politician, author, aphorist<br><i>Maximes et Essais sur Différents Sujets</i>,  <i>&#8220;Pensées Détachées,&#8221;</i> # 180 (1808) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Dictionary_of_Thoughts/zlMxAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22gilding+has+been+invented%22&pg=PA421&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Maximes_et_essais_sur_diff%C3%A9rents_sujets/JxbrAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=dorure1810">Source (French)</a>). Frequently misattributed to his more famous father, Francis de Gaston, first Duke de Lévis.<br><br>

The full aphorism also includes a final clause, <em>"et au défaut de vertu, nous avons l'honneur, qui en a l'éclat"</em> ("<a href="https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=et%20au%20d%C3%A9faut%20de%20vertu%2C%20nous%20avons%20l%27honneur%2C%20qui%20en%20a%20l%27%C3%A9clat.&op=translate">and, in default of virtue, we have honor, which has its luster</a>"). <br><br>

The French was incorporated in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_French_grammar/OYcCAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22de+levis%22+dorure&pg=PA276&printsec=frontcover">standard French grammar books</a> for many years.<br><br>

The English translation shows up in several cases without any attribution and in varied contexts (<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Evangelical_Magazine_and_Missionary_Chro/hRQEAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22gilding+has+been+invented%22&pg=PA277&printsec=frontcover">1</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Maxims_of_the_Wise_and_Good/lTYCAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22gilding+has+been+invented%22&pg=PA110&printsec=frontcover">2</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sensible_Etiquette_of_the_Best_Society_C/XbxBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22gilding+has+been+invented%22&pg=PA525&printsec=frontcover">3</a>). <br><br>

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		<title>Hellman, Lillian -- Letter to Rep. John S. Wood, House Committee on Un-American Activities (19 May 1952)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was raised in an old-fashioned American tradition and there were certain homely things that were taught to me: To try to tell the truth, not to bear false witness, not to harm my neighbor, to be loyal to my country, and so on. In general, I respected these ideals of Christian honor and did [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised in an old-fashioned American tradition and there were certain homely things that were taught to me: To try to tell the truth, not to bear false witness, not to harm my neighbor, to be loyal to my country, and so on. In general, I respected these ideals of Christian honor and did as well with them as I knew how. It is my belief that you will agree with these simple rules of human decency and will not expect me to violate the good American tradition from which they spring.</p>
<br><b>Lillian Hellman</b> (1905-1984) American playwright, screenwriter<br>Letter to Rep. John S. Wood, House Committee on Un-American Activities (19 May 1952) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.americanyawp.com/reader/25-the-cold-war/lillian-hellman-refuses-to-name-names-1952/#:~:text=I%20was%20raised,which%20they%20spring." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On declining to "name names" before HUAC (see <a href="https://wist.info/hellman-lillian/1837/">here</a>). <a href="https://catalog.archives.gov/id/24200384">National Archives copy</a>. Reprinted in The Nation (31 May 1952).<br><br> 

As a result of the letter and her invoking the Fifth Amendment at the HUAC hearings, Hellman was put on the Hollywood Blacklist for the rest of the decade.						</span>
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		<title>Swift, Jonathan -- &#8220;Thoughts on Religion&#8221; (1726)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miserable mortals! Can we contribute to the honour and glory of God? I could wish that expression were struck out of our prayer books.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miserable mortals! Can we contribute to the honour and glory of God? I could wish that expression were struck out of our prayer books.</p>
<br><b>Jonathan Swift</b> (1667-1745) English writer and churchman<br>&#8220;Thoughts on Religion&#8221; (1726) 
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		<title>Gracián, Baltasar -- The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia], § 118 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Politeness and honour have this advantage, that they remain with him who displays them to others. [La galantería y la honra tienen esta ventaja, que se quedan: aquélla en quien la usa, ésta en quien la hace.] (Source (Spanish)). Alternate translations: Politeness and a sense of honor have this advantage: we bestow them on others [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politeness and honour have this advantage, that they remain with him who displays them to others.</p>
<p><em>[La galantería y la honra tienen esta ventaja, que se quedan: aquélla en quien la usa, ésta en quien la hace.]</em></p>
<br><b>Baltasar Gracián y Morales</b> (1601-1658) Spanish Jesuit priest, writer, philosopher<br><i>The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia]</i>, § 118 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/aww/aww12.htm#:~:text=Politeness%20and%20honour%20have%20this%20advantage%2C%20that%20they%20remain%20with%20him%20who%20displays%20them%20to%20others." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Or%C3%A1culo_manual_y_arte_de_la_prudencia:_Aforismos_(101-125)#:~:text=La%20galanter%C3%ADa%20y%20la%20honra%20tienen%20esta%20ventaja%2C%20que%20se%20quedan%3A%20aqu%C3%A9lla%20en%20quien%20la%20usa%2C%20%C3%A9sta%20en%20quien%20la%20hace.">Source (Spanish)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>Politeness and a sense of honor have this advantage: we bestow them on others without losing a thing.  <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Art_of_Worldly_Wisdom/UU2KDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=119">Maurer</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gallantry, and honor have this advantage, they are saved through being spent, the first if practiced, the second if worn.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/artofworldlywisd00grac/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22gallantry+and+honor%22">Fischer</a> (1937)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Serling, Rod -- &#8220;Rod Serling: The Facts of Life,&#8221; interview by Linda Brevelle (4 Mar 1975)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BREVILLE: And what do you want them to say about the writer Rod Serling a hundred years from now? SERLING: I don’t care. I just want them to remember me a hundred years from now. I don’t care that they’re not able to quote any single line that I’ve written. But just that they can [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREVILLE: And what do you want them to say about the writer Rod Serling a hundred years from now?</p>
<p>SERLING: I don’t care. I just want them to remember me a hundred years from now. I don’t care that they’re not able to quote any single line that I’ve written. But just that they can say, “Oh, he was a writer.” That’s sufficiently an honored position for me.</p>
<p>BREVILLE: Then that’s what it all boils down to really?</p>
<p>SERLING: I guess we all have a little vaunting itch for immortality, I guess that must be it.</p>
<br><b>Rod Serling</b> (1924-1975) American screenwriter, playwright, television producer, narrator <br>&#8220;Rod Serling: The Facts of Life,&#8221; interview by Linda Brevelle (4 Mar 1975) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://rodserling.com/rod-serlings-final-interview/#:~:text=Brevelle%3A%20And%20what,must%20be%20it." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Serling's last interview. He died less than four months later.
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- All&#8217;s Well That Ends Well, Act 2, sc. 3, l. 136ff (2.3.136-137) (1602?)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[KING: From lowest place when virtuous things proceed, The place is dignified by the doer’s deed.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">KING: From lowest place when virtuous things proceed,<br />
The place is dignified by the doer’s deed.</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>All&#8217;s Well That Ends Well</i>, Act 2, sc. 3, l. 136ff (2.3.136-137) (1602?) 
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		<title>Tolkien, J.R.R. -- The Lord of the Rings, Vol. 3: The Return of the King, Book 5, ch.  2 &#8220;The Passing of the Grey Company&#8221;  [Aragorn to Éowyn] (1955)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[‘A time may come soon,’ said he, ‘when none will return. Then there will be need of valour without renown, for none shall remember the deeds that are done in the last defence of your homes. Yet the deeds will not be less valiant because they are unpraised.’]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘A time may come soon,’ said he, ‘when none will return. Then there will be need of valour without renown, for none shall remember the deeds that are done in the last defence of your homes. Yet the deeds will not be less valiant because they are unpraised.’</p>
<br><b>J.R.R. Tolkien</b> (1892-1973) English writer, fabulist, philologist, academic [John Ronald Reuel Tolkien]<br><i>The Lord of the Rings, Vol. 3: The Return of the King</i>, Book 5, ch.  2 &#8220;The Passing of the Grey Company&#8221;  [Aragorn to Éowyn] (1955) 
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		<title>Milton, John -- Comus, l. 322ff (1634)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE LADY: Shepherd I take thy word, And trust thy honest offer&#8217;d courtesie, Which oft is sooner found in lowly sheds With smoaky rafters, then in tapstry Halls And Courts of Princes, where it first was nam&#8217;d, And yet is most pretended.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE LADY: Shepherd I take thy word,<br />
And trust thy honest offer&#8217;d courtesie,<br />
Which oft is sooner found in lowly sheds<br />
With smoaky rafters, then in tapstry Halls<br />
And Courts of Princes, where it first was nam&#8217;d,<br />
And yet is most pretended.</p>
<br><b>John Milton</b> (1608-1674) English poet<br><i>Comus</i>, l. 322ff (1634) 
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices], Book 1, ch. 19 (1.19) / sec. 62 (44 BC) [tr. Cockman (1699)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For nothing can ever be virtuous or creditable that is not just. [Nihil enim honestum esse potest, quod iustitia vacat.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: No conduct cannot be honorable which departs from justice. [tr. McCartney (1798)] For nothing that is devoid of justice can be a virtue. [tr. Edmonds (1865)] Nothing that is devoid of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For nothing can ever be virtuous or creditable that is not just. </p>
<p><em>[Nihil enim honestum esse potest, quod iustitia vacat.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices]</i>, Book 1, ch. 19 (1.19) / sec. 62 (44 BC) [tr. Cockman (1699)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/officeswithlaeli00cice/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22virtuous+or+creditable%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0047%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D62#:~:text=nihil%20enim%20honestum%20esse%20potest%2C%20quod%20iustitia%20vacat.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>No conduct cannot be honorable which departs from justice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Treatise_of_Cicero_De_Officiis_Or_Hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22honourable%20which%20departs%22">McCartney</a> (1798)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For nothing that is devoid of justice can be a virtue.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_s_Three_Books_of_Offices/5ZZJAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22that%20is%20devoid%20of%20justice%22">Edmonds</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nothing that is devoid of justice can be honorable.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/cicero-on-moral-duties-de-officiis#:~:text=Nothing%20that%20is%20devoid%20of%20justice%20can%20be%20honorable.">Peabody</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There can be no honour without justice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiis00cicegoog/page/n49/mode/2up?q=%22honour+without+justice%22">Gardiner</a> (1899)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Right cannot be where justice is not.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22right%20cannot%20be%22">Harbottle</a> (1906)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nothing that lacks justice can be morally right.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0048%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D62#:~:text=nothing%20that%20lacks%20justice%20can%20be%20morally%20right.">Miller</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nothing can be morally worthy that lacks justice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiisonduti00cice/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22nothing+can+be+morally+worthy%22">Edinger</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br> 						</span>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices], Book 1, ch. 39 (1.39) / sec. 139 (44 BC) [tr. McCartney (1798)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dignity of character ought to be graced by a house; but from a house it is not wholly derived. A master is not to be honored by a house; but a house by its master. [Ornanda enim est dignitas domo, non ex domo tota quaerenda, nec domo dominus, sed domino domus honestanda est.] (Source (Latin)). [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dignity of character ought to be graced by a house; but from a house it is not wholly derived. A master is not to be honored by a house; but a house by its master.</p>
<p><em>[Ornanda enim est dignitas domo, non ex domo tota quaerenda, nec domo dominus, sed domino domus honestanda est.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices]</i>, Book 1, ch. 39 (1.39) / sec. 139 (44 BC) [tr. McCartney (1798)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Treatise_of_Cicero_De_Officiis_Or_Hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22graced%20by%20a%20house%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0474.phi055.perseus-lat1:1.139">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is well if a man can enhance that credit and reputation he has gotten by the splendour of his house; but he must not depend on his house alone for it; for the master ought to bring honour to his fine seat, and not the fine seat bring honour to its master.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/officeswithlaeli00cice/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22splendour+of+his+house%22">Cockman</a> (1699)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For dignity should be adorned by a palace, but not be wholly sought from it: -- the house ought to be ennobled by the master, and not the master by the house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_s_Three_Books_of_Offices/5ZZJAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22adorned%20by%20a%20palace%22">Edmonds</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In truth, high standing in the community should be adorned by a house, not sought wholly from a house; nor should the owner be honored by the house, but the house by the owner.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/cicero-on-moral-duties-de-officiis#:~:text=In%20truth%2C%20high%20standing%20in%20the%20community%20should%20be%20adorned%20by%20a%20house%2C%20not%20sought%20wholly%20from%20a%20house%3B%20nor%20should%20the%20owner%20be%20honored%20by%20the%20house%2C%20but%20the%20house%20by%20the%20owner.">Peabody</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The house should not constitute, though it may enhance, the dignity of the master; let the master honour the house, not the house the master.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiis00cicegoog/page/n85/mode/2up?q=%22house+should+not+constitute%22">Gardiner</a> (1899)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your house may add lustre to your dignity, but it will not suffice that you should derive all your dignity from your house: the master should ennoble the house, not the house the master.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22add%20lustre%22">Harbottle</a> (1906)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The truth is, a man's dignity may be enhanced by the house he lives in, but not wholly secured by it; the owner should bring honour to his house, not the house to its owner.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0474.phi055.perseus-eng1:1.139">Miller</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A house may enhance a man's dignity, but it should not be the only source of dignity; the house should not glorify its owner, but he should enhance it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiisonduti00cice/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22house+may+enhance%22">Edinger</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Gracián, Baltasar -- The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia], § 165 (1647) [tr. Maurer (1992)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Act like the person you are, not the way they make you act. [Cada uno ha de obrar como quien es, no como le obligan.] On waging war honorably. (Source (Spanish)). Alternate translation: All men ought to act according to what they themselves are, and not to what others are. [Flesher ed. (1685)] Every one [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Act like the person you are, not the way they make you act.</p>
<p><em>[Cada uno ha de obrar como quien es, no como le obligan.]</em></p>
<br><b>Baltasar Gracián y Morales</b> (1601-1658) Spanish Jesuit priest, writer, philosopher<br><i>The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia]</i>, § 165 (1647) [tr. Maurer (1992)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://community.fortunecity.ws/roswell/vortex/401/library/aoww/aoww07.htm#165:~:text=Act%20like%20the%20person%20you%20are%2C%20not%20the%20way%20they%20make%20you%20act." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On waging war honorably. (<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Obras_de_Lorenzo_Gracian/SqRlUvdtHJYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Cada+uno+ha+de+obrar+como+quien+es%22&pg=PA477&printsec=frontcover">Source (Spanish)</a>). Alternate translation: <br><br>

<blockquote>All men ought to act according to what they themselves are, and not to what others are.<br>
[<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A41733.0001.001/1:4.165?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=All%20men%20ought%20to%20act%20according%20to%20what%20they%20themselves%20are%2C%20and%20not%20to%20what%20others%20are.">Flesher</a> ed. (1685)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Every one must needs act as he is, not as others would make him to be. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://sacred-texts.com/eso/aww/aww13.htm#:~:text=Every%20one%20must%20needs%20act%20as%20he%20is%2C%20not%20as%20others%20would%20make%20him%20to%20be.">Jacobs</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Each must act for what he is, and not for what he is held.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/artofworldlywisd00grac/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22act+for+what+he+is%22">Fischer</a> (1937)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices], Book 1, ch. 33 (1.33) / sec. 121 (44 BC) [tr. Peabody (1883)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the best inheritance that fathers can give their children, more precious than any patrimony however large, is a reputation for virtue and for worthy deeds, which if the child disgraces, his conduct should be branded as infamous and impious. [Optima autem hereditas a patribus traditur liberis omnique patrimonio praestantior gloria virtutis rerumque gestarum, cui [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the best inheritance that fathers can give their children, more precious than any patrimony however large, is a reputation for virtue and for worthy deeds, which if the child disgraces, his conduct should be branded as infamous and impious.</p>
<p><em>[Optima autem hereditas a patribus traditur liberis omnique patrimonio praestantior gloria virtutis rerumque gestarum, cui dedecori esse nefas et vitium iudicandum est.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices]</i>, Book 1, ch. 33 (1.33) / sec. 121 (44 BC) [tr. Peabody (1883)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/cicero-on-moral-duties-de-officiis#:~:text=But%20the%20best%20inheritance%20that%20fathers%20can%20give%20their%20children%2C%20more%20precious%20than%20any%20patrimony%20however%20large%2C%20is%20reputation%20for%20virtue%20and%20for%20worthy%20deeds%2C%20which%20if%20the%20child%20disgraces%2C%20his%20conduct%20should%20be%20branded%20as%20infamous%20and%20impious." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0047%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D121#:~:text=Optima%20autem%20hereditas%20a%20patribus%20traditur%20liberis%20omnique%20patrimonio%20praestantior%20gloria%20virtutis%20rerumque%20gestarum%2C%20cui%20dedecori%20esse%20nefas%20et%20vitium%20iudicandum%20est.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translation:<br><br>

<blockquote>Now the noblest inheritance that can ever be left by a father to his son, and far exceeding that of houses and lands, is the fame of his virtues and glorious actions; and for a son to live so, as is unworthy of the name and reputation of his ancestors, is the basest and most abominable thing in the world.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/officeswithlaeli00cice/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22noblest+inheritance%22">Cockman</a> (1699)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The best inheritance left by a father to his children, superior to every other patrimony, is the honor of a virtuous conduct, and the glory of his public transactions. And it is base and criminal by an unworthy conduct, to bring disgrace upon a father's reputation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Treatise_of_Cicero_De_Officiis_Or_Hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22best%20inheritance%22">McCartney</a> (1798)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now, the best inheritance a parent can leave a child -- more excellent than any patrimony -- is the glory of his virtue and his deeds; to bring disgrace on which ought to be regarded as wicked and monstrous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_s_Three_Books_of_Offices/5ZZJAAAAYAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22best%20inheritance%22">Edmonds</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The noblest heritage, the richest patrimony a father can bequeath to his children is a reputation for virtue and noble deeds. To tarnish his good name is a sin and a crime.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiis00cicegoog/page/n77/mode/2up?q=%22noblest+heritage%22">Gardiner</a> (1899)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The best legacy a father can leave to his children, a legacy worth far more than the largest patrimony, is the fame of a virtuous and well-spent life. He who disgraces such a bequest is deserving of infamy.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22best%20legacy%22">Harbottle</a> (1906)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The noblest heritage, however, that is handed down from fathers to children, and one more precious than any inherited wealth, is a reputation for virtue and worthy deeds; and to dishonour this must be branded as a sin and a shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0048%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D121#:~:text=The%20noblest%20heritage%2C%20however%2C%20that%20is%20handed%20down%20from%20fathers%20to%20children%2C%20And%20one%20more%20precious%20than%20any%20inherited%20wealth%2C%20is%20a%20reputation%20for%20virtue%20and%20worthy%20deeds%3B%20and%20to%20dishonour%20this%20must%20be%20branded%20as%20a%20sin%20and%20a%20shame.">Miller</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The best heritage that descends from fathers to sons is the fame for honesty and great deeds. Such fame surpasses any legacy. We must judge it a crime and a shame to disgrace it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiisonduti00cice/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22best+heritage%22">Edinger</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  1, l. 461ff (1.461-462) (29-19 BC) [tr. Taylor (1907), st. 61, l. 543ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even here Worth wins her due, and there are tears to flow, And human hearts to feel for human woe. [Sunt hic etiam sua praemia laudi, Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangunt.] Aeneas, on seeing murals of the Trojan Wars in Carthage. (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: Lo! Priam here, reward here vertue finds; Troy [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Even here<br />
Worth wins her due, and there are tears to flow,<br />
And human hearts to feel for human woe.</p>
<p><em>[Sunt hic etiam sua praemia laudi,<br />
Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangunt.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  1, l. 461ff (1.461-462) (29-19 BC) [tr. Taylor (1907), st. 61, l. 543ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=See%20our%20Priam!-,Even%20here,-Worth%20wins%20her" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Aeneas, on seeing murals of the Trojan Wars in Carthage. (<a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/vergil/aen1.shtml#:~:text=Sunt%20hic%20etiam%20sua%20praemia%20laudi">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Lo! Priam here, reward here vertue finds;<br>
Troy teares, and humane sufferings pittying minds.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Lo!%20Priam,sufferings%20pittying%20minds%2C">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Ev'n the mute walls relate the warrior's fame,<br>
And Trojan griefs the Tyrians' pity claim.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_I#:~:text=Ev%27n%20the%20mute%20walls%20relate%20the%20warrior%27s%20fame">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even here praiseworthy deeds meet with due reward: here are tears for misfortunes, and the breasts are touched with human woes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22praiseworthy%20deeds%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Aye, praise waits on worth<br>
E'en in this corner of the earth;<br>
E'en here the tear of pity springs,<br>
And hearts are touched by human things.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_1#:~:text=aye%2C%20praise%20waits%20on%20worth">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Worthy deeds e'en here are praised. <br>
And mortal sufferings move their thoughts and tears.<br> 
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n49/mode/2up?q=%22worthy+deeds%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 601ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here too is the meed of honour, here mortal estate touches the soul to tears.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#:~:text=Here%20too%20is%20the%20meed%20of%20honour%2C%20here%20mortal%20estate%20touches%20the%20soul%20to%20tears.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And even here belike deed hath its own reward.<br>
Lo here are tears for piteous things that touch men's hearts anigh.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#:~:text=and%20even%20here,men%27s%20hearts%20anigh">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Virtue's wage is given -- <br>
O even here! Here also there be tears<br>
for what men bear, and mortal creatures feel<br>
each other's sorrow.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D441#:~:text=Virtue%27s%20wage%20is%20given">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, too, virtue has its due rewards; here, too, there are tears for misfortune and mortal sorrows touch the heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n283/mode/2up?q=%22due+rewards%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Look! even here there are rewards for praise,<br>
There are tears for things, and what men suffer touches<br>
The human heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#:~:text=Look!%20even%20here,The%20human%20heart.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here too we find virtue somehow rewarded. <br>
Tears in the nature of things, hearts touched by human transience.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22virtue+somehow%22">Day Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, too, the honorable finds its due<br>
and there are tears for passing things; here, too,<br>
things mortal touch the mind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22honorable+finds%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 654ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Even so far away <br>
Great valor has due honor; they weep here <br>
For how the world goes, and our life that passes <br>
Touches their hearts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22great+valor%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 627ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here too there is just reward for merit, there are tears for suffering and men's hearts are touched by what man has to bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22just+reward%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here too virtue has its rewards, here too<br>
there are tears for events, and mortal things touch the heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidI.php#anchor_Toc535054289:~:text=Here%20too%20virtue,touch%20the%20heart.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here, too, honor matters;<br>
Here are the tears of the ages, and minds touched<br>
By human suffering.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aeneid/KGG_69G7uQ0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=lombardo%20aeneid&pg=PR4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22honor%20matters%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even here, merit will have its true reward ...<br>
even here, the world is a world of tears<br>
and the burdens of mortality touch the heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22merit%20will%20have%22">Fagles</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here too, glory has its rewards; the world weeps, and mortal matters move the heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=bartsch%20aeneid&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22world%20weeps%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Gracián, Baltasar -- The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia], §  47 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is more valour needed not to take up the affair of honor than to conquer in it. When there is one fool ready for the occasion, one may excuse oneself from being the second. [Estima por más valor el no empeñarse que el vencer. y ya que haya un necio ocasionado, escusa que con [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is more valour needed not to take up the affair of honor than to conquer in it. When there is one fool ready for the occasion, one may excuse oneself from being the second.</p>
<p><em>[Estima por más valor el no empeñarse que el vencer. y ya que haya un necio ocasionado, escusa que con él no sean dos.]</em></p>
<br><b>Baltasar Gracián y Morales</b> (1601-1658) Spanish Jesuit priest, writer, philosopher<br><i>The Art of Worldly Wisdom [Oráculo Manual y Arte de Prudencia]</i>, §  47 (1647) [tr. Jacobs (1892)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/aww/aww10.htm#:~:text=There%20is%20more%20valour%20needed%20not%20to%20take%20up%20the%20affair%20than%20to%20conquer%20in%20it.%20When%20there%20is%20one%20fool%20ready%20for%20the%20occasion%2C%20one%20may%20excuse%20oneself%20from%20being%20the%20second.
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(<a href="https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Or%C3%A1culo_manual_y_arte_de_prudencia/Aforismos_(26-50)#:~:text=estima%20por%20m%C3%A1s%20valor%20el%20no%20empe%C3%B1arse%20que%20el%20vencer%2C%20y%20ya%20que%20haya%20un%20necio%20ocasionado%2C%20excusa%20que%20con%20%C3%A9l%20no%20sean%20dos.">Source (Spanish)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>He finds greater advantage in not engaging, than in overcoming: and though some rash blockhead may be ready to begin, yet he has a care not to make a second.<br>
[<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A41733.0001.001/1:4.47?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=He%20finds%20greater,make%20a%20second.">Flesher</a> ed. (1685)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He will deem it better courage not to become ensnarled, than to win, and even should the everpresent fool bob up, he will excuse himself on the ground that he does not wish to be another.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/artofworldlywisd00grac/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22better+courage%22">Fischer</a> (1937)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is more courage in avoiding danger than in conquering it. He sees that there is already one rash fool, and avoids adding another.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://community.fortunecity.ws/roswell/vortex/401/library/aoww/aoww02.htm#047:~:text=there%20is%20more%20courage%20in%20avoiding%20danger%20than%20in%20conquering%20it.%20He%20sees%20that%20there%20is%20already%20one%20rash%20fool%2C%20and%20avoids%20adding%20another.">Maurer</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we do not redefine manhood, war is inevitable.</p>
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		<title>Sophocles -- Antigone, l.  365ff, Stasimon 1, Antistrophe 2 [Chorus] (441 BC) [tr. Fagles (1982)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man the master, ingenious past all measure, past all dreams the skills within his grasp &#8212; &#160;&#160;&#160;he forges on, now to destruction, now again to greatness. When he weaves in the laws of the land, and the justice of the gods that bind his oaths together &#160;&#160;&#160;he and his city rise high &#8212; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;but the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man the master, ingenious past all measure,<br />
past all dreams the skills within his grasp &#8212;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;he forges on, now to destruction,<br />
now again to greatness. When he weaves in<br />
the laws of the land, and the justice of the gods<br />
that bind his oaths together<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;he and his city rise high &#8212;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but the city casts out<br />
that man who weds himself to inhumanity<br />
thanks to reckless daring. Never share my hearth,<br />
never think my thoughts, whoever does such things.</p>
<p>[σοφόν τι τὸ μηχανόεν τέχνας ὑπὲρ ἐλπίδ᾽ ἔχων<br />
τοτὲ μὲν κακόν, ἄλλοτ᾽ ἐπ᾽ ἐσθλὸν ἕρπει,<br />
νόμους γεραίρων χθονὸς θεῶν τ᾽ ἔνορκον δίκαν,<br />
370ὑψίπολις: ἄπολις ὅτῳ τὸ μὴ καλὸν<br />
ξύνεστι τόλμας χάριν. μήτ᾽ ἐμοὶ παρέστιος<br />
γένοιτο μήτ᾽ ἴσον φρονῶν ὃς τάδ᾽ ἔρδει.]</p>
<br><b>Sophocles</b> (496-406 BC) Greek tragic playwright<br><i>Antigone</i>, l.  365ff, Stasimon 1, Antistrophe 2 [Chorus] (441 BC) [tr. Fagles (1982)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Three_Theban_Plays/5UgCTH_KYlQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=three%20theban%20plays&pg=PA77&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22ingenious%20past%20all%20measure%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0011.tlg002.perseus-grc1:365-375">Original Greek</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Wise in his craft of art<br>
Beyond the bounds of expectation,<br>
The while to good he goes, the while to evil.<br>
Honouring his country's laws and heaven's oathbound right,<br>
High is he in the state!<br>
But cityless is he with whom inherent baseness dwells;<br>
When boldness dares so much,<br>
No seat by me at festive hearth,<br>
No seat by me in sect or party,<br>
For him that sinneth!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Antigone_of_Sophocles_in_Greek_and_E/HMQNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22wise%20in%20the%20craft%22">Donaldson</a> (1848)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Passing the wildest flight thought are the cunning and skill,<br>
That guide man now to the light, but now to counsels of ill.<br>
If he honors the laws of the land, and reveres the Gods of the State<br>
Proudly his city shall stand; but a cityless outcast I rate<br>
Whoso bold in his pride from the path of right doth depart;<br>
Ne'er may I sit by his side, or share the thoughts of his heart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31/31-h/31-h.htm#linkantigone:~:text=Passing%20the%20wildest%20flight%20thought%20are,share%20the%20thoughts%20of%20his%20heart.">Storr</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Inventive beyond wildest hope, endowed with boundless skill,<br>
One while he moves toward evil, and one while toward good,<br>
According as he loves his land and fears the Gods above.<br>
Weaving the laws into his life and steadfast oath of Heaven,<br>
High in the State he moves but outcast he,<br>
Who hugs dishonour to his heart and follows paths of crime<br>
Ne'er may he come beneath my roof, nor think like thoughts with me.v
[tr. <a href="http://www.loyalbooks.com/download/text/Electra-Sophocles.txt#:~:text=Inventive%20beyond%20wildest%20hope%2C%20endowed%20with,nor%20think%20like%20thoughts%20with%20me.">Campbell</a> (1873)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Possessing resourceful skill, a subtlety beyond expectation he moves now to evil, now to good. When he honors the laws of the land and the justice of the gods to which he is bound by oath, his city prospers. But banned from his city is he who, thanks to his rashness, couples with disgrace. Never may he share my home, never think my thoughts, who does these things!<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0011.tlg002.perseus-eng1:365-375">Jebb</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cunning beyond fancy's dream is the fertile skill which brings him, now to evil, now to good. When he honours the laws of the land, and that justice which he hath sworn by the gods to uphold, proudly stands his city: no city hath he who, for his rashness, dwells with sin. Never may he share my hearth, never think my thoughts, who doth these things!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Sophocles_(Jebb_1917)/Antigone#pageindex_150:~:text=Cunning%20beyond%20fancy's%20dream%20is%20the,my%20thoughts%2C%20who%20doth%20these%20things!">Jebb</a> (1917)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O clear intelligence, force beyond all measure!<br>
O fate of man, working both good and evil!<br>
When the laws are kept, how proudly his city stands!<br>
When the laws are broken, what of his city then?<br>
Never may the anarchic man find rest at my hearth,<br>
Never be it said that my thoughts are his thoughts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://mthoyibi.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/antigone_2.pdf">Fitts/Fitzgerald</a> (1939), l. 285ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O wondrous subtlety of man, that draws<br>
To good or evil ways! Great honor is given<br>
And power to him who upholdeth his country’s laws<br>
And the justice of heaven.<br>
But he that, too rashly daring, walks in sin<br>
In solitary pride to his life’s end.<br>
At door of mine shall never enter in<br>
To call me friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://images.pcmac.org/SiSFiles/Schools/PA/GreenvilleArea/GreenvilleJrSrHigh/Uploads/DocumentsSubCategories/Documents/Antigone--E.F._Watling_1.pdf">Watling</a> (1947)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Clever beyond all dreams<br>
the inventive crat that he has<br>
which may drive him one time or another to well or ill.<br>
When he honors the laws of the land and the gods' sworn right<br>
high indeed is his city; but stateless is the man<br>
who dares to dwell with dishonor. Not by my fire,<br>
never to share my thoughts, who does these things.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/docs/SOPHOCLES_ANTIGONE_(AS08).PDF">Wyckoff</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Surpassing belief, the device and<br>
Cunning that Man has attained,<br>
And it bringeth him now to evil, now to good.<br>
If he observe Law, and tread<br>
The righteous path God ordained,<br>
Honored is he; dishonored, the man whose reckless heart<br>
Shall make him join hands with sin:<br>
May I not think like him,<br>
Nor may such an impious man<br>
Dwell in my house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone_Oedipus_the_King_Electra/I9Ely1BXWAQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22surpassing%20belief%22">Kitto</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He has cunning contrivance,<br>
Skill surpassing hope,<br>
And so he slithers into wickedness sometimes,<br>
Other times into doing good.<br>
If he honors the law of the land<br>
And the oath-bound justice of the gods,<br>
Then his city shall stand high.<br>
But no city for him if he turns shameless out of daring.<br>
He will be no guest of mine,<br>
He will never share my thoughts,<br>
If he goes wrong.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/4180HoH81RgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22cunning%20contrivance%22">Woodruff</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Possessing a means of invention, a skillfulness beyond expectation, <br>
now toward evil he moves, now toward good. <br>
By integrating the laws of the earth <br>
and justice under oath sworn to the gods, <br>
he is lofty of city. Citiless is the man with whom ignobility<br>
because of his daring dwells. <br>
May he never reside at my hearth <br>
or think like me, <br>
whoever does such things.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/sophocles-antigone/#post-1273:~:text=Possessing%20a%20means%20of%20invention%2C%20a,whoever%20does%20such%20things.">Tyrell/Bennett</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And though his wisdom is great in discovery -- wisdom beyond all imaginings!<br>
Yet one minute it turns to ill the next again to good.<br>
But whoever honours the laws of his land and his sworn oaths to the gods, he’ll bring glory to his city.<br>
The arrogant man, on the other hand, the man who strays from the righteous path is lost to his city. Let that man never stay under the same roof as me or even be acquainted by me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Antigone.php#content:~:text=ChorusAnd%20though%20his%20wisdom%20is%20great,or%20even%20be%20acquainted%20by%20me!">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The qualities of his inventive skills<br>
bring arts beyond his dreams and lead him on,<br>
sometimes to evil and sometimes to good.<br>
If he treats his country’s laws with due respect<br>
and honours justice by swearing on the gods,<br>
he wins high honours in his city.<br>
But when he grows bold and turns to evil,<br>
then he has no city. A man like that -- <br>
let him not share my home or know my mind.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://johnstoi.web.viu.ca//sophocles/antigone.htm#:~:text=The%20qualities%20of%20his%20inventive%20skills,my%20home%20or%20know%20my%20mind.">Johnston</a> (2005), l. 415ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With clever creativity beyond expectation, he moves now to evil, now to good. The one who observes the laws of the land and justice, our compat with the gods, is honored in the city, but there is no city for one who participates in what is wrong for the sake of daring.  Let him not share my hearth, nor let me share his ideas who had done these things.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/ZG4yvZTkbYEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA21&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22with%20clever%20creativity%22">Thomas</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Laelius De Amicitia [Laelius on Friendship], ch. 5, part 3 (5.3) / sec. 19 (44 BC) [tr. Falconer (1923)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who so act and so live as to give proof of loyalty and uprightness, of fairness and generosity; who are free from all passion, caprice, and insolence, and have great strength of character &#8212; men like those just mentioned &#8212; such men let us consider good, as they were accounted good in life, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who so act and so live as to give proof of loyalty and uprightness, of fairness and generosity; who are free from all passion, caprice, and insolence, and have great strength of character &#8212; men like those just mentioned &#8212; such men let us consider good, as they were accounted good in life, and also entitled to be called by that term because, in as far as that is possible for man, they follow Nature, who is the best guide to good living.</p>
<p><em>[Qui ita se gerunt, ita vivunt, ut eorum probetur fides integritas aequitas1 liberalitas, nec sit in eis ulla cupiditas libido audacia, sintque magna constantia, ut ei fuerunt, modo quos nominavi, hos viros bonos, ut habiti sunt, sic etiam appellandos putemus, quia sequantur, quantum homines possunt, naturam optimam bene vivendi ducem.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Laelius De Amicitia [Laelius on Friendship]</i>, ch. 5, part 3 (5.3) / sec. 19 (44 BC) [tr. Falconer (1923)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0041%3Asection%3D19#text_main:~:text=Those%20who%20so%20act%20and%20so,the%20best%20guide%20to%20good%20living." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0040%3Asection%3D19#text_main:~:text=qui%20ita%20se%20gerunt%2C%20ita%20vivunt%2C,possunt%2C%20naturam%20optimam%20bene%20vivendi%20ducem.">Original Latin</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Those who so conduct themselves, and so live that their honor, their integrity, their justice, and liberality are approved; so that there is not in them any covetousness, or licentiousness, or boldness; and that they are of great consistency, as those men whom I have mentioned above; -- let us consider these worthy of the appellation of good men, as they have been accounted such because they follow (as far as men are able) nature, which is the best guide of a good life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cicero_s_Three_Books_of_Offices_and_Othe/xZEZAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA179&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22those%20who%20so%20conduct%20themselves%22">Edmonds</a> (1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those who so conduct themselves, so live, that their good faith, integrity, equity, and kindness win approval, who are entirely free from avarice, lust, and the infirmities of a hasty temper, and in whom there is perfect consistency of character; in fine, men like those whom I have named, while they are regarded as good, ought to be so called, because to the utmost of human capacity they follow Nature, who is the best guide in living well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/cicero-on-friendship-de-amicitia#Cicero_0041-03_70:~:text=Those%20who%20%5B16%5Dso%20conduct%20themselves%2C%20so,the%20best%20guide%20in%20living%20well.">Peabody</a> (1887)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We mean then by the "good" <i>those whose actions and lives leave no question as to their honour, purity, equity, and liberality; who are free from greed, lust, and violence; and who have the courage of their convictions.</i> The men I have just named may serve as examples. Such men as these being generally accounted “good,” let us agree to call them so, on the ground that to the best of human ability they follow nature as the most perfect guide to a good life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/melmoth-letters-of-marcus-tullius-cicero#Cicero_0042_32:~:text=We%20mean%20then%20by%20the%20%E2%80%9Cgood%E2%80%9D,perfect%20guide%20to%20a%20good%20life.">Shuckburgh</a> (1909)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those who comport themselves in such a way, who live in such a way that their loyalty, integrity, fairness and generosity are proven, such that there is no desire, lust, and insolence in them, and such that they have great steadfastness of character (like those whom I named just before), we consider ought indeed to be called good men (as is customary), because they follow (as much as humans can) nature -- the best leader in proper living.<br>
[<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Laelius_on_Friendship#19:~:text=Those%20who%20comport%20themselves%20in%20such,the%20best%20leader%20in%20proper%20living.">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Homer -- The Iliad [Ἰλιάς], Book 24, l.  44ff (24.44) [Apollo] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Pope (1715-20)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame is not of his soul; nor understood, The greatest evil and the greatest good. [οὐδέ οἱ αἰδὼς γίγνεται, ἥ τ᾽ ἄνδρας μέγα σίνεται ἠδ᾽ ὀνίνησι.] Speaking of Achilles&#8217; mistreatment of Hector&#8217;s corpse. Pope footnotes: &#8220;This is obscure. The original is, &#8216;He has no shame, shame which harms men much, and profits them much.&#8217; Dr. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame is not of his soul; nor understood,<br />
The greatest evil and the greatest good.</p>
<p>[οὐδέ οἱ αἰδὼς<br />
γίγνεται, ἥ τ᾽ ἄνδρας μέγα σίνεται ἠδ᾽ ὀνίνησι.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Iliad</i> [Ἰλιάς], Book 24, l.  44ff (24.44) [Apollo] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Pope (1715-20)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_of_Homer_(Pope)/Book_24#pageindex_429:~:text=Shame%20is%20not%20of%20his%20soul%3B,greatest%20evil%20and%20the%20greatest%20good" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Speaking of Achilles' mistreatment of Hector's corpse. Pope <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_of_Homer_(Pope)/Book_24#cite_note-1:~:text=This%20is%20obscure.%20The%20original%20is%2C,critic%2C%20thinks%20the%20passage%20an%20interpolation.">footnotes</a>: "This is obscure. The original is, 'He has no shame, shame which harms men much, and profits them much.' Dr. Leat, following an ancient critic, thinks the passage an interpolation."<br><br>

Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>And shame, a quality<br>
Of so much weight, that both it helps and hurts excessively<br>
Men in their manners, is not known, nor hath the pow’r to be,<br>
In this man’s being.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://fiftywordsforsnow.com/ebooks/chapman/iliad2.html#page2_253:~:text=And%20so%20fares%20this%20man%2C%20that,men%20a%20greater%20loss%20than%20he">Chapman</a> (1611), l. 47ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Shame, man’s blessing or his curse.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16452/16452-h/16452-h.htm#page_590:~:text=and%20shame%2C%20man%E2%80%99s%20blessing%20or%20his%20curse.%5B">Cowper</a> (1791), l. 58]<br><br>

Cowper <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16452/16452-h/16452-h.htm#Bk_24-2:~:text=His%20blessing%2C%20if%20he%20is%20properly,he%20is%20deaf%20to%20its%20dictates.%5D%E2%80%94">footnotes</a>: "His blessing, if he is properly influenced by it; his curse in its consequences if he is deaf to its dictates."</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nor in him is there sense of shame, which greatly hurts and profits men.<br> 
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22382/22382-h/22382-h.htm#footnote775:~:text=nor%20in%20him%20is%20there%20sense%20of%20shame%2C%20which%20greatly%20hurts%20and%20profits%20men.">Buckley</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Conscience, arbiter of good and ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6150/6150-h/6150-h.htm#linknoteref-8:~:text=conscience%2C%20arbiter%20of%20good%20and%20ill.">Derby</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Neither hath he shame, that doth both harm and profit men greatly.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3059/3059-h/3059-h.htm#:~:text=neither%20hath%20he%20shame%2C%20that%20doth%20both%20harm%20and%20profit%20men%20greatly.">Leaf/Lang/Myers</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That conscience which at once so greatly banes yet greatly boons him that will heed it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_(Butler)/Book_XXIV#header_section_text:~:text=that%20conscience%20which%20at%20once%20so%20greatly%20banes%20yet%20greatly%20boons%20him%20that%20will%20heed%20it">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Neither is shame in his heart, the which harmeth men greatly and profiteth them withal.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0134%3Abook%3D24%3Acard%3D22#text_main:~:text=neither%20is%20shame%20in%20his%20heart%2C%20%5B45%5D%20the%20which%20harmeth%20men%20greatly%20and%20profiteth%20them%20withal.">Murray</a> (1924)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is not in him any shame; which does much harm to men but profits them also.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad_of_Homer/VppP9t9CjFIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22there%20is%20not%20in%20him%20any%20shame%22">Lattimore</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He has no shame -- that gift that hinders mortals but helps them, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/SZ0LrX2UOuUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22he%20has%20no%20shame%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No shame in the man,<br>
shame that does great harm or drives men on to good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://griersmusings.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/homer_the_iliad_penguin_classics_deluxe_edition-robert-fagles.pdf">Fagles</a> (1990), l. 52ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Shame and respect no <br>
longer he has, which harm men greatly but profit them also.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/sos0paw_-cEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA418&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22shame%20and%20respect%20no%22">Merrill</a> (2007)]</blockquote>						</span>
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		<title>Homer -- The Iliad [Ἰλιάς], Book 15, l. 561ff (15.561) [Ajax] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Cowper (1791), l. 679ff]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh friends, be men! Deep treasure in your hearts An honest shame, and, fighting bravely, fear Each to incur the censure of the rest. Of men so minded more survive than die, While dastards forfeit life and glory both. [ὦ φίλοι ἀνέρες ἔστε, καὶ αἰδῶ θέσθ᾽ ἐνὶ θυμῷ, ἀλλήλους τ᾽ αἰδεῖσθε κατὰ κρατερὰς ὑσμίνας. αἰδομένων [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh friends, be men! Deep treasure in your hearts<br />
An honest shame, and, fighting bravely, fear<br />
Each to incur the censure of the rest.<br />
Of men so minded more survive than die,<br />
While dastards forfeit life and glory both.</p>
<p>[ὦ φίλοι ἀνέρες ἔστε, καὶ αἰδῶ θέσθ᾽ ἐνὶ θυμῷ,<br />
ἀλλήλους τ᾽ αἰδεῖσθε κατὰ κρατερὰς ὑσμίνας.<br />
αἰδομένων δ᾽ ἀνδρῶν πλέονες σόοι ἠὲ πέφανται:<br />
φευγόντων δ᾽ οὔτ᾽ ἂρ κλέος ὄρνυται οὔτέ τις ἀλκή.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Iliad</i> [Ἰλιάς], Book 15, l. 561ff (15.561) [Ajax] (c. 750 BC) [tr. Cowper (1791), l. 679ff] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16452/16452-h/16452-h.htm#page_380:~:text=Oh%20friends%2C%20be%20men!%20Deep%20treasure,dastards%20forfeit%20life%20and%20glory%20both." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0133%3Abook%3D15%3Acard%3D559#text_main:~:text=%E1%BD%A6%20%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BD%CE%AD%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%82%20%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B5%2C%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B1%E1%BC%B0%CE%B4%E1%BF%B6,%E1%BC%82%CF%81%20%CE%BA%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%BF%CF%82%20%E1%BD%84%CF%81%CE%BD%CF%85%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CE%BF%E1%BD%94%CF%84%CE%AD%20%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BB%CE%BA%CE%AE.">Original Greek</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br> 

<blockquote>Good friends, bring but yourselves to feel the noble stings of shame<br>
For what ye suffer, and be men. Respect each other’s fame;<br>
For which who strives in shame’s fit fear, and puts on ne’er so far,<br>
Comes oft’ner off. Then stick engag’d; these fugitives of war<br>
Save neither life, nor get renown, nor bear more mind than sheep.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://fiftywordsforsnow.com/ebooks/chapman/iliad2.html#page2_68:~:text=Good%20friends%2C%20bring%20but%20yourselves%20to,nor%20bear%20more%20mind%20than%20sheep.%E2%80%9D">Chapman</a> (1611), l. 508ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Greeks! respect your fame,<br>
Respect yourselves, and learn an honest shame:<br>
Let mutual reverence mutual warmth inspire,<br>
And catch from breast to breast the noble fire.<br>
On valour's side the odds of combat lie,<br>
The brave live glorious, or lamented die;<br>
The wretch that trembles in the field of fame,<br>
Meets death, and worse than death, eternal shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_of_Homer_(Pope)/Book_15#pageindex_275:~:text=O%20Greeks!%20respect%20your%20fame%2C,and%20worse%20than%20death%2C%20eternal%20shame.%22">Pope</a> (1715-20)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O my friends, be men, and set honour in your hearts, and have reverence for each other during the vehement conflicts. For more of those men who reverence each other are saved than slain; but of the fugitives, neither glory arises, nor any defence.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22382/22382-h/22382-h.htm#footnote497:~:text=O%20my%20friends%2C%20be%20men%2C%20and,neither%20glory%20arises%2C%20nor%20any%20defence.%E2%80%9D">Buckley</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Brave comrades, quit ye now like men;<br>
Bear a stout heart; and in the stubborn fight<br>
Let each to other mutual succour give;<br>
By mutual succour more are sav’d than fall;<br>
In timid flight nor fame nor safety lies.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6150/6150-h/6150-h.htm#linknoteref-4:~:text=fight%2C-,And%20cried%2C%20%E2%80%9CBrave%20comrades%2C%20quit%20ye%20now%20like%20men%3B,In%20timid%20flight%20nor%20fame%20nor%20safety%20lies.%E2%80%9D,-He%20said%3B%20and%20pond%E2%80%99ring%20well%20his%20words%2C%20they%20stood%2C">Derby</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My friends, be men, and fear dishonour; quit yourselves in battle so as to win respect from one another. Men who respect each other's good opinion are less likely to be killed than those who do not, but in flight there is neither gain nor glory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad_(Butler)/Book_XV#navigationNotes:~:text=My%20friends%2C%22%20he%20cried%2C%20%22be%20men%2C,there%20is%20neither%20gain%20nor%20glory.%22">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My friends, be men, and take ye shame in your hearts, and have shame each of the other in the fierce conflict. Of men that have shame more are saved than are slain; but from them that flee springeth neither glory nor any avail.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0134%3Abook%3D15%3Acard%3D559#text_main:~:text=And%20the%20Argives%20did%20great%20Telamonian,springeth%20neither%20glory%20nor%20any%20avail.%E2%80%9D">Murray</a> (1924)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Friends, respect yourselves as men,<br>
respect each other in the moil of battle!<br>
Men with a  sense of shame survive<br>
more often than they perish. Those who run<br>
have neither fighting power nor any honor.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/SZ0LrX2UOuUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA270&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22respect%20yourselves%20as%20men%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Be men, my friends! Discipline fill your hearts!<br>
Dread what comrades say of you here in bloody combat!<br>
When men dread that, more men come through alive --<br>
when soldiers break and run, good-bye glory,<br>
good-bye all defenses!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://griersmusings.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/homer_the_iliad_penguin_classics_deluxe_edition-robert-fagles.pdf">Fagles</a> (1990), l. 651ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now, dear friends, be men, keep hold of your valorous spirit,<br>
feel shame, each on account of the rest in the violent combats;<br>
more of the men who feel such shame live safely than perish,<br>
while from the ones who flee no glory nor any defense springs.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Iliad/sos0paw_-cEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22keep%20hold%20of%20your%20valorous%20spirit%22">Merrill</a> (2007), l. 529ff]</blockquote>

 
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		<title>Malory, Thomas -- Le Morte d&#8217;Arthur, Book  4, ch. 10 (1485)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For I have promised to do the battle to the uttermost, by faith of my body, while me lasteth the life, and therefore I had liefer to die with honour than to live with shame; and if it were possible for me to die an hundred times, I had liefer to die oft than yield [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For I have promised to do the battle to the uttermost, by faith of my body, while me lasteth the life, and therefore I had liefer to die with honour than to live with shame; and if it were possible for me to die an hundred times, I had liefer to die oft than yield me to thee; for though I lack weapon, I shall lack no worship, and if thou slay me weaponless that shall be thy shame.”</p>
<br><b>Thomas Malory</b> (c. 1415-1471) English writer<br><i>Le Morte d&#8217;Arthur</i>, Book  4, ch. 10 (1485) 
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices], Book 3, ch.  9 (3.9) / sec. 38 (44 BC) [tr. Edmonds (1865)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For virtue, not secrecy, is sought by good men. [Honesta enim bonis viris, non occulta quaeruntur.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: For good men desire to be virtuous and honest, and not to be secret, that so they may sin without danger. [tr. Cockman (1699)] What is honorable, and not what is concealed, is the object [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For virtue, not secrecy, is sought by good men.</p>
<p><em>[Honesta enim bonis viris, non occulta quaeruntur.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>De Officiis [On Duties; On Moral Duty; The Offices]</i>, Book 3, ch.  9 (3.9) / sec. 38 (44 BC) [tr. Edmonds (1865)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/stream/cicerosthreeboo00cice#page/130/mode/2up/search/%22for+virtue+not+secrecy%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0047%3Abook%3D3%3Asection%3D38#text_main:~:text=honesta%20enim%20bonis%20viris%2C%20non%20occulta%20quaeruntur">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>For good men desire to be virtuous and honest, and not to be secret, that so they may sin without danger.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/officeswithlaeli00cice#page/128/mode/2up/search/%22good+men+desire%22">Cockman</a> (1699)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is honorable, and not what is concealed, is the object of pursuit with wise men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Treatise_of_Cicero_De_Officiis_Or_Hi/rvdPAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20is%20honourable%22&dq=de%20officiis&pg=PA225&printsec=frontcover">McCartney</a> (1798)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is right things, not hidden things, that are sought by good men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/cicero-on-moral-duties-de-officiis#Cicero_0041-01_305:~:text=for%20it%20is%20right%20things%2C%20not%20hidden%20things%2C%20that%20are%20sought%20by%20good%20men.">Peabody</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The good man seeks to do what is right, not to hide what he does.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiis00cicegoog/page/n165/mode/2up?q=%22hide+what+he+does%22">Gardiner</a> (1899)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For good men aim to secure not secrecy but the right.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0048%3Abook%3Dpos%3D3%3Asection%3D38#note-link1:~:text=for%20good%20men%20aim%20to%20secure%20not%20secrecy%20but%20the%20right">Miller</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Good men seek right conduct, not conduct that has to remain concealed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/deofficiisonduti00cice/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22seek+right+conduct%22">Edinger</a> (1974)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Honorable things, not secretive things, are sought by good men.</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Pro Sestio [For Publius Sestius], ch. 45 / sec.  98  (56-03 BC) [tr. Yonge (1891)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What then, is the object proposed to themselves by these directors of the republic, which they are bound to keep their eyes fixed upon, and towards which they ought to direct their course? That which is most excellent and most desirable to all men in their senses, and to all good and happy men, &#8212; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What then, is the object proposed to themselves by these directors of the republic, which they are bound to keep their eyes fixed upon, and towards which they ought to direct their course? That which is most excellent and most desirable to all men in their senses, and to all good and happy men, &#8212; ease conjoined with duty. </p>
<p><em>[Quid est igitur propositum his rei publicae gubernatoribus quod intueri et quo cursum suum derigere debeant? Id quod est praestantissimum maximeque optabile omnibus sanis et bonis et beatis, cum dignitate otium.]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Pro Sestio [For Publius Sestius]</i>, ch. 45 / sec.  98  (56-03 BC) [tr. Yonge (1891)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0020%3Atext%3DSest.%3Achapter%3D45%3Asection%3D98#:~:text=What%20then%2C%20is,conjoined%20with%20duty." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The discussion of <i>otium cum dignitate</i>, coined by Cicero, is a key point in <i>Pro Sestio</i>. It is also translated as "leisure with dignity," "peace with dignity," "peace with honor," "fruitful leisure." Socially, it means an active, studious, useful private life or retirement after public service -- as distinguished from idleness, sloth, and indolence.  Politically, Cicero used it to reference a secure, stable, peaceful, but still vigorous state, led by the "best men" (aristocrats or <i>optimates)</i>.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0014%3Atext%3DSest.%3Achapter%3D45%3Asection%3D98#:~:text=quid%20est%20igitur%20propositum%20his%20rei%20publicae%20gubernatoribus%20quod%20intueri%20et%20quo%20cursum%20suum%20derigere1%20debeant%3F%20id%20quod%20est%20praestantissimum%20maximeque%20optabile%20omnibus%20sanis%20et%20bonis%20et%20beatis%2C%20cum%20dignitate%20otium.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>What, therefore, is the aim of these conductors of the affairs of the state, which they ought to keep their eyes upon, and towards which they ought to direct their course? That which is most excellent and most to be desired by all sane and good and well-to-do citizens, tranquillity with freedom. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/M_T_Ciceronis_oratio_pro_P_Sestio_tr_by/ro5o55KcLXQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22good%20and%20well-to-do%22">Hickie</a> (1888)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[...] That which stands first, and is most to be desired by all happy, honest, and healthy-minded men, is ease with dignity. <br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofquot00harbiala/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22sestio%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What then is the mark set before those who guide the helm of state, upon which they ought to keep their eyes and towards which they ought to direct their course? It is that which is far the best and the most desirable for all who are sound and good and prosperous; it is "peace with dignity." <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.attalus.org/cicero/sestius2.html#:~:text=What%20then%20is%20the%20mark%20set%20before%20those%20who%20guide%20the%20helm%20of%20state%2C%20upon%20which%20they%20ought%20to%20keep%20their%20eyes%20and%20towards%20which%20they%20ought%20to%20direct%20their%20course%20%3F%20It%20is%20that%20which%20is%20far%20the%20best%20and%20the%20most%20desirable%20for%20all%20who%20are%20sound%20and%20good%20and%20prosperous%3B%20it%20is%20%22peace%20with%20dignity.%22">Gardner</a> (Loeb) (1958)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What then are the ideals and objectives towards which these men ought to steer the <i>res publica?</i> They are the finest, the noblest aims of all men of wisdom, integrity, and substance: civil peace for Rome and honour for those who deserve it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Res_Publica/JHV0AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22civil%20peace%20for%20Rome%20and%20honour%22">Wilson/Lacey</a> (1978)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[...] What is desired the most, by those who are healthy, good, and blessed, is leisure with honor.<br>
[in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Getting_Your_Way/IIf-8SFs6hsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=cicero%20%22Id%20quod%20est%20praestantissimum%22&pg=PT72&printsec=frontcover&bsq=cicero%20%22Id%20quod%20est%20praestantissimum%22">Jasper</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[...] The thing that is the most outstanding, and chiefly to be desired by all healthy and good and well-off persons, is leisure with honor.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Routledge_Dictionary_of_Latin_Quotat/EZJoSq45EPQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22most%20outstanding%22">Stone</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Spenser, Edmund -- The Faerie Queene, Book 5, Canto 11, st. 63 (1589-96)</title>
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But dearer than them both, your faith once plighted hold.</p>
<br><b>Edmund Spenser</b> (c. 1552–1599) English poet<br><i>The Faerie Queene</i>, Book 5, Canto 11, st. 63 (1589-96) 
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		<description><![CDATA[PHILINTE: A gentleman may be respected still, Whether he writes a sonnet well or ill. That I dislike his verse should not offend him; In all that touches honor, I commend him; He&#8217;s noble, brave, and virtuous &#8212; but I fear He can&#8217;t in truth be called a sonneteer. On peut être honnête homme, et [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">PHILINTE: A gentleman may be respected still,<br />
Whether he writes a sonnet well or ill.<br />
That I dislike his verse should not offend him;<br />
In all that touches honor, I commend him;<br />
He&#8217;s noble, brave, and virtuous &#8212; but I fear<br />
He can&#8217;t in truth be called a sonneteer.</p>
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<p><em>On peut être honnête homme, et faire mal des vers,<br />
Ce n’est point à l’honneur que touchent ces matières,<br />
Je le tiens galant homme en toutes les manières,<br />
Homme de qualité, de mérite et de cœur,<br />
Tout ce qu’il vous plaira, mais fort méchant auteur.</em></p>
<br><b>Molière</b> (1622-1673) French playwright, actor [stage name for Jean-Baptiste Poquelin]<br><i>Le Misanthrope</i>, Act 4, sc. 1 (1666) [tr. Wilbur (1954)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/misanthropetartu00moli/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22called+a+sonneteer%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Plays_of_Moli%C3%A8re_in_French_with_a_N/71qHR4Zj1KYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22peut%20%C3%AAtre%20honn%C3%AAte%20homme%22">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>One may be a perfect gentleman, and write bad verses; those things have nothing to do with honour. I take him to be a gallant man in every way; a man of standing, of merit, and courage, anything you like, but he is a wretched author.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_dramatic_works_of_Moli%C3%A8re/1on2BpTRSJkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22may%20be%20a%20perfect%22">Van Laun</a> (1878)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One may be an excellent man, and yet write bad verses. Honour is not affected by such things. I esteem him a gallant man in all respects, a man of quality, merit, and courage; all you please, but he is a very bad author. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedies00molirich/page/418/mode/2up?q=%22be+an+excellent+man%22">Mathew</a> (1890)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A man can be a gentleman and make bad verses. Such matters do not touch his honor, and I hold him to be a gallant man in every other way; a man of quality, of courage, deserving of anything you please, but -- a bad writer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Moli%C3%A8re/wbLfngFjN_MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22can%20be%20a%20gentleman%22">Wormeley</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One may be a perfect gentleman and yet write bad verses; these things have no concern with honolur. I believe him to be an honourable man in every way; a man of standing, of merit, of courage, anything you like, but he is a miserable author.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Plays_of_Moli%C3%A8re_in_French_with_a_N/71qHR4Zj1KYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22yet%20write%20bad%20verses%22">Waller</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A man may be<br>
A perfect gentleman, and write poor verse.<br>
These matters do not raise the point of honor.<br>
I hold him a true man in all respects,<br>
Brave, worthy, noble, anything you will,<br>
But still, a wretched writer. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Misanthrope_(Moli%C3%A8re)#ACT_IV:~:text=a%20man%20may,a%20wretched%20writer.">Page</a> (1913)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One can be virtuous and a wretched poet; <br>
That's not a matter to affect one's honor. <br>
I think him an accomplished gentleman, <br>
A man of rank, merit, and character, <br>
Whatever you like; but he's a dreadful author.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/eightplaysbymoli00moli/page/260/mode/2up?q=%22one+can+be+virtuous%22">Bishop</a> (1957)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even a gentleman can write bad verse.<br>
These things concern our honor not a whit.<br>
That he's a gentleman I do admit,<br>
A man of quality, merit, and heart,<br>
All that you like -- his authorship apart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/classiccomedies0000unse/page/272/mode/2up?q=%22even+a+gentleman%22">Frame</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Anyone may be an honorable man, and yet write verse badly.<br>
[<a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_0316071439_16thed/page/268/mode/2up?q=%22may+be+an+honorable%22">ed. Bartlett (1992)</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Trumbo, Dalton -- Johnny Got His Gun (1938)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s nothing noble about dying. Not even if you die for honor. Not even if you die the greatest hero the world ever saw. Not even if you&#8217;re so great your name will never be forgotten and who&#8217;s that great? The most important thing is your life, little guys. You&#8217;re worth nothing dead except for [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing noble about dying. Not even if you die for honor. Not even if you die the greatest hero the world ever saw. Not even if you&#8217;re so great your name will never be forgotten and who&#8217;s that great? The most important thing is your life, little guys. You&#8217;re worth nothing dead except for speeches. Don&#8217;t let them kid you any more. Pay no attention when they tap you on the shoulder and say come along we&#8217;ve got to fight for liberty, or whatever their word is. There&#8217;s always a word.</p>
<br><b>Dalton Trumbo</b> (1905-1976) American screenwriter and novelist [James Dalton Trumbo]<br><i>Johnny Got His Gun</i> (1938) 
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		<title>Trumbo, Dalton -- Johnny Got His Gun, ch. 10 (1938)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can always hear the people who are willing to sacrifice somebody else&#8217;s life. They&#8217;re plenty loud and they talk all the time. You can find them in churches and schools and newspapers and congresses. That&#8217;s their business. They sound wonderful. Death before dishonor. This ground sanctified by blood. These men who died so gloriously. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">You can always hear the people who are willing to sacrifice somebody else&#8217;s life. They&#8217;re plenty loud and they talk all the time. You can find them in churches and schools and newspapers and congresses. That&#8217;s their business. They sound wonderful. Death before dishonor. This ground sanctified by blood. These men who died so gloriously. They shall not have died in vain. Our noble dead.<br />
<span class="tab">Hmmmm.<br />
<span class="tab">But what do the dead say?<br />
<span class="tab">Did anybody ever come back from the dead any single one of the millions who got killed did any one of them ever come back and say by god I’m glad I’m dead because death is always better than dishonor? Did they say I’m glad I died to make the world safe for democracy? Did they say I like death better than losing liberty? Did any of them ever say it’s good to think I got my guts blown out for the honor of my country? Did any of them ever say look at me I’m dead but I died for decency and that’s better than being alive? Did any of them ever say here I am, I’ve been rotting for two years in a foreign grave but it’s wonderful to die for your native land? Did any of them say hurray I died for womanhood and I’m happy, see how I sing even though my mouth is choked with worms?<br />
<span class="tab">Nobody but the dead know whether all these things people talk about are worth dying for or not. And the dead can&#8217;t talk.</p>
<br><b>Dalton Trumbo</b> (1905-1976) American screenwriter and novelist [James Dalton Trumbo]<br><i>Johnny Got His Gun</i>, ch. 10 (1938) 
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		<title>Shaw, George Bernard -- The Revolutionist&#8217;s Handbook, &#8220;Honor&#8221; (1905)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better keep yourself clean and bright: you are the window through which you must see the world.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better keep yourself clean and bright: you are the window through which you must see the world. </p>
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<br><b>George Bernard Shaw</b> (1856-1950) Irish playwright and critic<br><i>The Revolutionist&#8217;s Handbook</i>, &#8220;Honor&#8221; (1905) 
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		<title>Taylor, Henry -- The Statesman: An Ironical Treatise on the Art of Succeeding, ch. 17 (1836)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the temptations under which politicians are placed, of changing their opinions, or rather their professions of opinion, from motives of self interest, the world will not give them credit for motives of honest conviction, unless when the change shall be to their manifest loss and disadvantage.</p>
<br><b>Henry Taylor</b> (1800-1886) English dramatist, poet, bureaucrat, man of letters<br><i>The Statesman: An Ironical Treatise on the Art of Succeeding</i>, ch. 17 (1836) 
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		<title>Talmud -- Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 49b</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No labor, however humble, is dishonoring. Alt. trans.: &#8220;Great is labor, for it honors the worker.&#8221; [tr. Freedman] Alt. trans.: &#8220;Labor is great, as it brings honor to the laborer who performs it.&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No labor, however humble, is dishonoring.</p>
<br><b>The Talmud</b> (AD 200-500) Collection of Jewish rabbinical writings<br>Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 49b 
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<a href="http://www.come-and-hear.com/nedarim/nedarim_49.html">Alt. trans.</a>: "Great is labor, for it honors the worker." [tr. Freedman]
<a href="https://www.sefaria.org/Nedarim.49b.11?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en">Alt. trans.</a>: "Labor is great, as it brings honor to the laborer who performs it."
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		<title>Clay, Henry -- Speech, Lexington, Kentucky (12 Jul 1827)</title>
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<br><b>Henry Clay</b> (1777-1853) American politician<br>Speech, Lexington, Kentucky (12 Jul 1827) 
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		<title>Churchill, Winston -- Eulogy for Neville Chamberlain (1940)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only guide to a man is his conscience, the only shield to his memory is the rectitude and the sincerity of his actions. It is very imprudent to walk through life without this shield, because we are so often mocked by the failure of our hopes and the upsetting of our calculations; but with this shield, however the fates may play, we march always in the ranks of honour. </p>
<br><b>Winston Churchill</b> (1874-1965) British statesman and author<br>Eulogy for Neville Chamberlain (1940) 
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In <i>The Second World War, Vol. 2: Their Finest Hour</i> (1949)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have heard the story, haven&#8217;t you, about the man who was tarred and feathered and carried out of town on a rail? A man in the crowd asked him how he liked it. His reply was that if it was not for the honor of the thing, he would much rather walk.</p>
<br><b>Abraham Lincoln</b> (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)<br>(Attributed (1861)) 
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When asked how he liked being president (c. 1861). Quoted in Emanuel Hertz, <em>Lincoln Talks: A Biography in Anecdote</em> (1939).

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		<title>Addison, Joseph -- Cato, Act 4, sc. 4, l. 139ff (1713)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">CATO: Content thyself to be obscurely good.<br />
When vice prevails, and impious men bear sway,<br />
The post of honour is a private station.</p>
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<br><b>Joseph Addison</b> (1672-1719) English essayist, poet, statesman<br><i>Cato</i>, Act 4, sc. 4, l. 139ff (1713) 
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		<title>Artaud, Antonin -- Letter to André Breton (28 Feb 1947)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are circumstances which have to do with simple human honor. No matter the risk. To resist and not surrender.</p>
<br><b>Antonin Artaud</b> (1896-1948) French playwright, actor, director<br>Letter to André Breton (28 Feb 1947) 
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		<title>Boileau-Despréaux, Nicolas -- Satires, Satire 10, l. 167 (1716)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honor is like an island, rugged and without a beach; once we have left it, we can never return. [L&#8217;honneur est comme une ile escarpée et sans bords ; On n&#8217;y peut plus rentrer dès qu&#8217;on en est dehors.]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honor is like an island, rugged and without a beach; once we have left it, we can never return.</p>
<p><em>[L&#8217;honneur est comme une ile escarpée et sans bords ;<br />
On n&#8217;y peut plus rentrer dès qu&#8217;on en est dehors.]</em></p>
<br><b>Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux</b> (1636-1711) French poet and critic<br><i>Satires</i>, Satire 10, l. 167 (1716) 
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		<title>Roux, Joseph -- Meditations of a Parish Priest: Thoughts, ch. 4, #38 (1886)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2016 15:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many sacrifice honor, a necessity, to glory, a luxury?</p>
<br><b>Joseph Roux</b> (1834-1886) French Catholic priest<br><i>Meditations of a Parish Priest: Thoughts</i>, ch. 4, #38 (1886) 
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		<title>Maher, Bill -- Be More Cynical (2000)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2016 13:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll clue you in on a secret: death is not the worst thing that could happen to you. I know we think that; we are the first society ever to think that. It&#8217;s not worse than dishonor; it&#8217;s not worse than losing your freedom; it&#8217;s not worse than losing a sense of personal responsibility.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll clue you in on a secret: death is not the worst thing that could happen to you. I know we think that; we are the first society ever to think that. It&#8217;s not worse than dishonor; it&#8217;s not worse than losing your freedom; it&#8217;s not worse than losing a sense of personal responsibility.</p>
<br><b>William "Bill" Maher</b> (b. 1956) American comedian, political commentator, critic, television host.<br><i>Be More Cynical</i> (2000) 
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		<title>Lippmann, Walter -- &#8220;The Fascination of Greatness,&#8221; Today and Tomorrow (7 Sep 1943)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the way of greatness. In the supreme moments of history, terms like duty, truth, justice, and mercy &#8212; which in our torpid hours are tired words &#8212; become the measure of decision. &#8230; The straight and righteous path is the shortest and the surest.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the way of greatness. In the supreme moments of history, terms like duty, truth, justice, and mercy &#8212; which in our torpid hours are tired words &#8212; become the measure of decision. &#8230; The straight and righteous path is the shortest and the surest.</p>
<br><b>Walter Lippmann</b> (1889-1974) American journalist and author<br>&#8220;The Fascination of Greatness,&#8221; <i>Today and Tomorrow</i> (7 Sep 1943) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=htCs_vb_ZJYC&pg=PA506" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Emerson, Ralph Waldo -- Essay (1860), &#8220;Worship,&#8221; The Conduct of Life, ch.  6</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons. Based on a course of lectures, &#8220;The Conduct of Life,&#8221; delivered in Pittsburg (1851-03). See Johnson.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.</p>
<br><b>Ralph Waldo Emerson</b> (1803-1882) American essayist, lecturer, poet<br>Essay (1860), &#8220;Worship,&#8221; <i>The Conduct of Life</i>, ch.  6 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/emerson/4957107.0006.001/1:12?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=the%20louder%20he%20talked%20of%20his%20honor%2C%20the%20faster%20we%20counted%20our%20spoons" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Based on a course of lectures, "The Conduct of Life," delivered in Pittsburg (1851-03).<br><br>

See <a href="/johnson-samuel/2149/">Johnson</a>.





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		<title>Heinlein, Robert A. -- Time Enough For Love [Lazarus Long] (1973)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Morals are your agreement with yourself to abide by your own rules. To thine own self be true or you spoil the game.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morals are your agreement with yourself to abide by your own rules. To thine own self be true or you spoil the game.</p>
<br><b>Robert A. Heinlein</b> (1907-1988) American writer<br><i>Time Enough For Love</i> [Lazarus Long] (1973) 
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		<title>Alexander, Lloyd -- Taran Wanderer (1967)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2015 13:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many have pursued honor, and in the pursuit lost more of it than ever they could gain.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many have pursued honor, and in the pursuit lost more of it than ever they could gain.</p>
<br><b>Lloyd Alexander</b> (1924-2007) American author<br><i>Taran Wanderer</i> (1967) 
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		<title>Tuchman, Barbara -- The Guns of August, ch. 7 (1962)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 11:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honor wears different coats to different eyes.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honor wears different coats to different eyes.</p>
<br><b>Barbara W. Tuchman</b> (1912-1989) American historian and author<br><i>The Guns of August</i>, ch. 7 (1962) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=fnVy4v5pZPMC&pg=PA114" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Bramah, Ernest -- &#8220;The Story of Hien and the Chief Examiner,&#8221; Kai Lung&#8217;s Golden Hours (1922)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are few situations in life that cannot be honourably settled, and without loss of time, either by suicide, a bag of gold, or by thrusting a despised antagonist over the edge of a precipice upon a dark night.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are few situations in life that cannot be honourably settled, and without loss of time, either by suicide, a bag of gold, or by thrusting a despised antagonist over the edge of a precipice upon a dark night.</p>
<br><b>Ernest Bramah</b> (1868-1942) English author [Ernest Brammah Smith]<br>&#8220;The Story of Hien and the Chief Examiner,&#8221; <i>Kai Lung&#8217;s Golden Hours</i> (1922) 
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Essay (1775-07-06), &#8220;Declaration of the Causes and Necessity for Taking Up Arms&#8221; [with John Dickinson]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should be wanting to ourselves, we should be perfidious to posterity, we should be unworthy that free ancestry from which we derive our descent, should we submit with folded arms to military butchery &#038; depredation &#8230;. Final draft as approved by the Continental Congress.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should be wanting to ourselves, we should be perfidious to posterity, we should be unworthy that free ancestry from which we derive our descent, should we submit with folded arms to military butchery &#038; depredation &#8230;.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Essay (1775-07-06), &#8220;Declaration of the Causes and Necessity for Taking Up Arms&#8221; [with John Dickinson] 
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Final draft as approved by the Continental Congress.						</span>
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		<title>Whedon, Joss -- Firefly, 1&#215;01 &#8220;Serenity&#8221; (pilot) (20 Dec 2002)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[SIMON: I&#8217;m trying to put this as delicately as I can. How do I know you won&#8217;t kill me in my sleep? MAL: You don&#8217;t know me, son, so let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you&#8217;ll be awake, you&#8217;ll be facing me, and you&#8217;ll be armed. SIMON: Are you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIMON: I&#8217;m trying to put this as delicately as I can. How do I know you won&#8217;t kill me in my sleep?<br />
MAL: You don&#8217;t know me, son, so let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you&#8217;ll be awake, you&#8217;ll be facing me, and you&#8217;ll be armed.<br />
SIMON: Are you always this sentimental?<br />
MAL: I had a good day.</p>
<br><b>Joss Whedon</b> (b. 1964) American screenwriter, author, producer [Joseph Hill Whedon]<br><i>Firefly</i>, 1&#215;01 &#8220;Serenity&#8221; (pilot) (20 Dec 2002) 
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		<title>Clarke, James F. -- &#8220;Wanted, a Statesman!&#8221;, Old and New Magazine (Dec 1870)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 11:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The statesman values principles more than measures, and measures more than party. I am afraid the politician reverses this rule, valuing his party most, measures next, and principles least.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statesman values principles more than measures, and measures more than party. I am afraid the politician reverses this rule, valuing his party most, measures next, and principles least.</p>
<br><b>James Freeman Clarke</b> (1810-1888) American theologian and author<br>&#8220;Wanted, a Statesman!&#8221;, <i>Old and New Magazine</i> (Dec 1870) 
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		<title>Bujold, Lois McMaster -- A Civil Campaign (1999)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.</p>
<br><b>Lois McMaster Bujold</b> (b. 1949) American author<br><i>A Civil Campaign</i> (1999) 
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		<title>Catiline -- Quoted in Sallust, Catiline&#8217;s War, Book 20, pt. 9 [tr. Rolfe]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it not better to die valiantly, than ignominiously to lose our wretched and dishonoured lives after being the sport of others’ insolence? [Nonne emori per virtutem praestat quam vitam miseram atque inhonestam, ubi alienae superbiae ludibrio fueris, per dedecus amittere?] Alt. trans.: &#8220;Is it not better to die in a glorious attempt, than, after [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not better to die valiantly, than ignominiously to lose our wretched and dishonoured lives after being the sport of others’ insolence?</p>
<p><em>[Nonne emori per virtutem praestat quam vitam miseram atque inhonestam, ubi alienae superbiae ludibrio fueris, per dedecus amittere?]</em></p>
<br><b>Catiline</b> (108-62 BC) Roman politician [Lucius Sergius Catilina]<br>Quoted in Sallust, <em>Catiline&#8217;s War</em>, Book 20, pt. 9 [tr. Rolfe] 
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Alt. trans.: "Is it not better to die in a glorious attempt, than, after having been the sport of other men's insolence, to resign a wretched and degraded existence with ignominy?"
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		<title>Burke, Edmund -- &#8220;Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents&#8221; (1770)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an advantage to all narrow wisdom and narrow morals that their maxims have a plausible air; and, on a cursory view, appear equal to first principles. They are light and portable. They are as current as copper coin; and about as valuable. They serve equally the first capacities and the lowest; and they are, at least, as useful to the worst men as to the best. Of this stamp is the cant of not man, but measures; a sort of charm by which many people get loose from every honourable engagement.</p>
<br><b>Edmund Burke</b> (1729-1797) Anglo-Irish statesman, orator, philosopher<br>&#8220;Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents&#8221; (1770) 
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		<title>Housman, A. E. -- More Poems, #36 (1936)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here dead lie we because we did not choose<br />
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.<br />
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;<br />
But young men think it is, and we were young.</p>
<br><b>A. E. Housman</b> (1859-1936) English scholar and poet [Alfred Edward Housman]<br><i>More Poems</i>, #36 (1936) 
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- Othello, Act 3, sc. 3, l. 182ff (3.3.182-188) (1603)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[IAGO: Good name in man and woman, dear my lord, Is the immediate jewel of their souls. Who steals my purse steals trash. ’Tis something, nothing; ’Twas mine, ’tis his, and has been slave to thousands. But he that filches from me my good name Robs me of that which not enriches him And makes [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">IAGO: Good name in man and woman, dear my lord,<br />
Is the immediate jewel of their souls.<br />
Who steals my purse steals trash. ’Tis something, nothing;<br />
’Twas mine, ’tis his, and has been slave to thousands.<br />
But he that filches from me my good name<br />
Robs me of that which not enriches him<br />
And makes me poor indeed.</p>
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<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Othello</i>, Act 3, sc. 3, l. 182ff (3.3.182-188) (1603) 
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		<title>Tacitus -- The Histories, 1.33 [tr. Church and Brodribb (1942)]</title>
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<br><b>Tacitus</b> (c.56-c.120) Roman historian, orator, politician [Publius or Gaius Cornelius Tacitus]<br><i>The Histories</i>, 1.33 [tr. Church and Brodribb (1942)] 
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		<title>McLaughlin, Mignon -- The Neurotic&#8217;s Notebook, ch.  7 (1963)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every society honors its live conformists, and its dead troublemakers.</p>
<br><b>Mignon McLaughlin</b> (1913-1983) American journalist and author<br><i>The Neurotic&#8217;s Notebook</i>, ch.  7 (1963) 
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		<title>Marcus Aurelius -- (Spurious)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.</p>
<br><b>Marcus Aurelius</b> (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher<br>(Spurious) 
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Widely attributed to Marcus Aurelius, but no actual citation found, and with some discrepancies to his philosophy. The closest match appears to be <a href="https://wist.info/marcus-aureleus/46416/"><em>Meditations</em> 2.11</a>, but it is a very poor match. <br><br>

More information:<ul>

	<li><a href="http://threeshoutsonahilltop.blogspot.com/2011/06/marcus-aurelius-and-source-checking.html">Three Shouts on a Hilltop: Marcus Aurelius and source checking</a></li>

	<li><a href="http://undeniably-atheist.blogspot.com/2011/10/fabricated-marcus-aurelius-quote.html">Undeniably Atheist: Fabricated Marcus Aurelius Quote</a></li>

	<li><a href="https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6999/did-marcus-aurelius-say-live-a-good-life">history - Did Marcus Aurelius say "Live a good life"? - Skeptics Stack Exchange</a></li>

	<li><a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2017/12/04/act-talk-think-like-you-might-die-right-now/">Act, Talk, Think Like You Might Die RIGHT NOW – SENTENTIAE ANTIQUAE</a></li>
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		<title>Tolkien, J.R.R. -- The Lord of the Rings, Vol. 2: The Two Towers, Book 4, ch.  5 &#8220;The Window on the West&#8221; [Faramir] (1954)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are truth-speakers, we men of Gondor. We boast seldom, and then perform, or die in the attempt. Not if I found it on the highway would I take it I said. Even if I were such a man as to desire this thing, and even though I knew not clearly what this thing was [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are truth-speakers, we men of Gondor. We boast seldom, and then perform, or die in the attempt. <em>Not if I found it on the highway would I take it</em> I said. Even if I were such a man as to desire this thing, and even though I knew not clearly what this thing was when I spoke, still I should take these words as a vow, and be held by them. But I am not such a man. Or I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee.</p>
<br><b>J.R.R. Tolkien</b> (1892-1973) English writer, fabulist, philologist, academic [John Ronald Reuel Tolkien]<br><i>The Lord of the Rings, Vol. 2: The Two Towers</i>, Book 4, ch.  5 &#8220;The Window on the West&#8221; [Faramir] (1954) 
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Faramir, rejecting the One Ring when he learns Frodo and Sam have it. Referring to <a href="https://wist.info/tolkien-jrr/15933/">this vow</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Bible, Vol. 2. New Testament -- Book  3. Gospel of Luke 14: 7ff (Luke 14:7–11) (Jesus) [NRSV (2021 ed.)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When he noticed how the guests chose the places of honor, he told them a parable. “When you are invited by someone to a wedding banquet, do not sit down at the place of honor, in case someone more distinguished than you has been invited by your host, and the host who invited both of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">When he noticed how the guests chose the places of honor, he told them a parable. “When you are invited by someone to a wedding banquet, do not sit down at the place of honor, in case someone more distinguished than you has been invited by your host, and the host who invited both of you may come and say to you, ‘Give this person your place,’ and then in disgrace you would start to take the lowest place.<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;But when you are invited, go and sit down at the lowest place, so that when your host comes, he may say to you, ‘Friend, move up higher’; then you will be honored in the presence of all who sit at the table with you.<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;For all who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.&#8221;</p>
<p><span class="tab">[Ἔλεγεν δὲ πρὸς τοὺς κεκλημένους παραβολήν, ἐπέχων πῶς τὰς πρωτοκλισίας ἐξελέγοντο, λέγων πρὸς αὐτούς, Ὅταν κληθῇς ὑπό τινος εἰς γάμους, μὴ κατακλιθῇς εἰς τὴν πρωτοκλισίαν, μήποτε ἐντιμότερός σου ᾖ κεκλημένος ὑπ᾽ αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐλθὼν ὁ σὲ καὶ αὐτὸν καλέσας ἐρεῖ σοι, Δὸς τούτῳ τόπον, καὶ τότε ἄρξῃ μετὰ αἰσχύνης τὸν ἔσχατον τόπον κατέχειν.<br />
<span class="tab">ἀλλ᾽ ὅταν κληθῇς, πορευθεὶς ἀνάπεσε εἰς τὸν ἔσχατον τόπον, ἵνα ὅταν ἔλθῃ ὁ κεκληκώς σε ἐρεῖ σοι, Φίλε, προσανάβηθι ἀνώτερον· τότε ἔσται σοι δόξα ἐνώπιον πάντων τῶν συνανακειμένων σοι.<br />
<span class="tab">ὅτι πᾶς ὁ ὑψῶν ἑαυτὸν ταπεινωθήσεται, καὶ ὁ ταπεινῶν ἑαυτὸν ὑψωθήσεται.]</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>The Bible (The New Testament)</b> (AD 1st - 2nd C) Christian sacred scripture<br>Book  3. <i>Gospel of Luke</i> 14: 7ff (Luke 14:7–11) (Jesus) [NRSV (2021 ed.)] 
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No Synoptic parallels.<br><br>

(<a href="https://tips.translation.bible/tip_verse/luke-147/">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; and he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. <br>
<span class="tab">But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.<br>
<span class="tab">For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014%3A7-11&version=AKJV">KJV</a> (1611)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">He then told the guests a parable, because he had noticed how they picked the places of honour. He said this, "When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not take your seat in the place of honour. A more distinguished person than you may have been invited, and the person who invited you both may come and say, 'Give up your place to this man.' And then, to your embarrassment, you would have to go and take the lowest place.<br>
<span class="tab">"No; when you are a guest, make your way to the lowest place and sit there, so that, when your host comes, he may say, 'My friend, move up higher.' In that way, everyone with you at the table will see you honoured.<br>
<span class="tab">"For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and the man who humbles himself will be exalted."<br>
[<a href="https://www.seraphim.my/bible/jb/JB-NT03%20LUKE.htm#:~:text=He%20then%20told,will%20be%20exalted.%27">JB</a> (1966)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">He then told the guests a parable, because he had noticed how they picked the places of honour. He said this, "When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not take your seat in the place of honour. A more distinguished person than you may have been invited, and the person who invited you both may come and say, 'Give up your place to this man.' And then, to your embarrassment, you will have to go and take the lowest place.<br>
<span class="tab">"No; when you are a guest, make your way to the lowest place and sit there, so that, when your host comes, he may say, 'My friend, move up higher.' Then, everyone with you at the table will see you honoured.<br>
<span class="tab">"For everyone who raises himself up will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be raised up."<br>
[<a href="https://www.bibliacatolica.com.br/en/new-jerusalem-bible/luke/14/#:~:text=He%20then%20told,be%20raised%20up.%27">NJB</a> (1985)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">Jesus noticed how some of the guests were choosing the best places, so he told this parable to all of them: “When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not sit down in the best place. It could happen that someone more important than you has been invited, and your host, who invited both of you, would have to come and say to you, ‘Let him have this place.’ Then you would be embarrassed and have to sit in the lowest place. <br>
<span class="tab">"Instead, when you are invited, go and sit in the lowest place, so that your host will come to you and say, ‘Come on up, my friend, to a better place.’ This will bring you honor in the presence of all the other guests. <br>
<span class="tab">"For those who make themselves great will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be made great.”<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014%3A7-11&version=GNT">GNT</a> (1992 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">When Jesus noticed how the guests sought out the best seats at the table, he told them a parable. “When someone invites you to a wedding celebration, don’t take your seat in the place of honor. Someone more highly regarded than you could have been invited by your host. The host who invited both of you will come and say to you, ‘Give your seat to this other person.’ Embarrassed, you will take your seat in the least important place. <br>
<span class="tab">"Instead, when you receive an invitation, go and sit in the least important place. When your host approaches you, he will say, ‘Friend, move up here to a better seat.’ Then you will be honored in the presence of all your fellow guests. <br>
<span class="tab">"All who lift themselves up will be brought low, and those who make themselves low will be lifted up."<br>
[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014%3A7-11&version=CEB">CEB</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Herbert, George -- Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c. (compiler), #  232 (1640 ed.)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honour and profit lie not in one sacke.</p>
<br><b>George Herbert</b> (1593-1633) Welsh priest, orator, poet.<br><i>Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c.</i> (compiler), #  232 (1640 ed.) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/worksofgeorgeher030204mbp/page/328/mode/2up?q=%22honour+and+profit+lie%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Aristotle -- Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια], Book  4, ch.  1 (4.1.7) / 1120a.11 (c. 325 BC) [tr. Chase (1847)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In fact generally, doing well by others is more characteristic of virtue than being done well by, and doing things positively honourable than forbearing to do things dishonourable. [τῆς γὰρ ἀρετῆς μᾶλλον τὸ εὖ ποιεῖν ἢ τὸ εὖ πάσχειν, καὶ τὰ καλὰ πράττειν μᾶλλον ἢ τὰ αἰσχρὰ μὴ πράττειν] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: For virtue [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact generally, doing well by others is more characteristic of virtue than being done well by, and doing things positively honourable than forbearing to do things dishonourable.</p>
<p>[τῆς γὰρ ἀρετῆς μᾶλλον τὸ εὖ ποιεῖν ἢ τὸ εὖ πάσχειν, καὶ τὰ καλὰ πράττειν μᾶλλον ἢ τὰ αἰσχρὰ μὴ πράττειν]</p>
<br><b>Aristotle</b> (384-322 BC) Greek philosopher<br><i>Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια]</i>, Book  4, ch.  1 (4.1.7) / 1120a.11 (c. 325 BC) [tr. Chase (1847)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/8438/pg8438-images.html#:~:text=In%20fact%20generally%2C%20doing%20well%20by%20others%20is%20more%20characteristic%20of%20virtue%20than%20being%20done%20well%20by%2C%20and%20doing%20things%20positively%20honourable%20than%20forbearing%20to%20do%20things%20dishonourable" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text.jsp?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0053%3Abekker+page%3D1120a%3Abekker+line%3D10#:~:text=%CF%84%E1%BF%86%CF%82%20%CE%B3%E1%BD%B0%CF%81%20%E1%BC%80%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%84%E1%BF%86%CF%82%20%CE%BC%E1%BE%B6%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B8%20%CE%B5%E1%BD%96%20%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%A2%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B8%20%CE%B5%E1%BD%96%20%CF%80%CE%AC%CF%83%CF%87%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%2C%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%BB%E1%BD%B0%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%84%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%CE%BC%E1%BE%B6%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%A2%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%B1%E1%BC%B0%CF%83%CF%87%CF%81%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%BC%E1%BD%B4%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%84%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For virtue rather shows itself in treating others as we ought, than in being treated as we ought; and in doing noble acts, rather than in abstaining from disgraceful acts.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/m7RCAAAAIAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22virtue%20rather%20shows%22">Williams</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is more truly distinctive of virtue to be the author than to be the recipient of benefactions, and to do what is noble than to abstain from doing what is shameful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/T04yAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22truly%20distinctive%20of%20virtue%22">Welldon</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is more distinctive of virtue to do good to others than to have good done to you, and to do what is noble than not to do what is base.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/peters-the-nicomachean-ethics#:~:text=For%20it%20is%20more%20distinctive%20of%20virtue%20to%20do%20good%20to%20others%20than%20to%20have%20good%20done%20to%20you%2C%20and%20to%20do%20what%20is%20noble%20than%20not%20to%20do%20what%20is%20base.">Peters</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is more characteristic of virtue to do good than to have good done to one, and more characteristic to do what is noble than not to do what is base.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicomachean_Ethics_(Ross)/Book_Four#:~:text=For%20it%20is%20more%20characteristic%20of%20virtue%20to%20do%20good%20than%20to%20have%20good%20done%20to%20one%2C%20and%20more%20characteristic%20to%20do%20what%20is%20noble%20than%20not%20to%20do%20what%20is%20base">Ross</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue is displayed in doing good rather than in having good done to one, and in performing noble acts rather than in avoiding base ones.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0054%3Abook%3D4%3Achapter%3Dpos%3D127%3Asection%3D7#:~:text=Virtue%20is%20displayed%20in%20doing%20good%20rather%20than%20in%20having%20good%20done%20to%20one%2C%20and%20in%20performing%20noble%20acts%20rather%20than%20in%20avoiding%20base%20ones%3B">Rackham</a> (1934)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The good man thinks it more blessed to give than to receive, and virtue is more clearly shown in the performance of fine actions than in the non-performance of base ones.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.425246/page/93/mode/2up?q=%22give+than+to+receive%22">Thomson</a> (1953)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue consists more in doing good than in receiving it, and more in doing fine actions than in refraining from disgraceful ones.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nicomacheanethic0000aris_w5n4/page/82/mode/2up?q=%22more+in+doing+good%22">Thomson/Tredennick</a> (1976)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is more proper to virtue to do good than to receive good, and more proper to do fine actions than not to do shameful ones.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780872204645/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22than+to+receive+good%22">Irwin</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For it is more characteristic of virtue to do good than to receive it, and to do noble actions than not to do shameful ones.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nicomacheanethic0000aris_a7a1/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22more+characteristic+of+virtue%22">Crisp</a> (2000)]</blockquote><br>

Cf. the Bible, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+20%3A35&version=KJV">Acts 20:35 [KJV]</a>:<br><br>

<blockquote>I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.</blockquote>

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		<title>Heinlein, Robert A. -- Stranger in a Strange Land, &#8220;His Maculate Origin,&#8221; ch. 8 (1991 ed.)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There comes a time in the life of every human when he or she must decide to risk &#8220;his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor&#8221; on an outcome dubious. Those who fail the challenge are merely overgrown children, can never be anything else. See Jefferson.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There comes a time in the life of every human when he or she must decide to risk &#8220;his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor&#8221; on an outcome dubious. Those who fail the challenge are merely overgrown children, can never be anything else.</p>
<br><b>Robert A. Heinlein</b> (1907-1988) American writer<br><i>Stranger in a Strange Land</i>, &#8220;His Maculate Origin,&#8221; ch. 8 (1991 ed.) 
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See <a href="https://wist.info/jefferson-thomas/20031/">Jefferson</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Horace -- Odes [Carmina], Book 3, #  2, l.  13ff (3.2.13-16) (23 BC) [tr. Michie (1963)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The glorious and the decent way of dying Is for one&#8217;s country. Run, and death will seize You no less surely. The young coward, flying, Gets his quietus in the back and knees. &#160; [Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori: mors et fugacem persequitur virum nec parcit inbellis iuventae poplitibus timidoque tergo.] The first [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The glorious and the decent way of dying<br />
<span class="tab">Is for one&#8217;s country. Run, and death will seize<br />
You no less surely. The young coward, flying,<br />
<span class="tab">Gets his quietus in the back and knees.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori:<br />
mors et fugacem persequitur virum<br />
nec parcit inbellis iuventae<br />
poplitibus timidoque tergo.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Horace</b> (65–8 BC) Roman poet, satirist, soldier, politician [Quintus Horatius Flaccus]<br><i>Odes [Carmina]</i>, Book 3, #  2, l.  13ff (3.2.13-16) (23 BC) [tr. Michie (1963)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhorace0000hora/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22the+glorious+and+the+decent%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The first line is often translated as "It is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country." While <i>dulce et decorum</i> is often in the modern era (World War I and beyond) dismissed as <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est">murderous, meaningless brainwashing</a>, the rest of the quatrain clarifies that death comes to the courageous and cowardly alike; that dishonorable flight does not ensure safety.<br><br>

Though it's worth noting that <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_works_of_Horace/Second_Book_of_Odes#:~:text=Together%20with%20thee%20did%20I%20experience%20the%20%5Bbattle%20of%5D%20Phillippi%20and%20a%20precipitate%20flight%2C%20having%20shamefully%20enough%20left%20my%20shield%3B%20when%20valor%20was%20broken%2C%20and%20the%20most%20daring%20smote%20the%20squalid%20earth%20with%20their%20faces.">Horace wrote</a> of abandoning his shield and fleeing at the Battle of Philippi.<br><br>

The ode as a whole is about training young Roman men in discipline and courage. <br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0024%3Abook%3D3%3Apoem%3D2#:~:text=dulce%20et%20decorum%20est%20pro%20patria%20mori%3A%0Amors%20et%20fugacem%20persequitur%20virum%0Anec%20parcit%20inbellis%20iuventae%0Apoplitibus%20timidoque%20tergo.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is a sweet, and noble gain,<br>
<span class="tab">In Countreys quarrel to be slain.<br>
Death the swift flying man pursues<br>
<span class="tab">With ready steps: Nor doth he use<br>
To spare from unavoided wrack,<br>
<span class="tab">Youths supple hams, or fearful back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A44478.0001.001/1:6?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20sweet,hams%2C%20or%20fearful%20back%2C">Sir T. H.</a>; ed. Brome (1666)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He nobly Bleeds, he bravely Dies,<br>
<span class="tab">That falls his Countries Sacrifice;<br>
The flying Youth swift Fate o're takes<br>
It strikes them thro the trembling backs,<br>
<span class="tab">And runs too fast for nimble Cowardice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A44471.0001.001/1:5?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=He%20nobly%20Bleeds,for%20nimble%20Cowardice.">Creech</a> (1684)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What joy, for fatherland to die!<br>
<span class="tab">Death's darts e'en flying feet o'ertake,<br>
Nor spare a recreant chivalry,<br>
<span class="tab">A back that cowers, or loins that quake.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0025%3Abook%3D3%3Apoem%3D2#:~:text=What%20joy%2C%20for%20fatherland%20to%20die!%0ADeath%27s%20darts%20e%27en%20flying%20feet%20o%27ertake%2C%0ANor%20spare%20a%20recreant%20chivalry%2C%0AA%20back%20that%20cowers%2C%20or%20loins%20that%20quake.">Conington</a> (1872)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is sweet and glorious to die for one’s country; death even pursues the man that flies from him; nor does he spare the trembling knees of effeminate youth, nor the coward back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_works_of_Horace/Third_Book_of_Odes#:~:text=It%20is%20sweet%20and%20glorious%20to%20die%20for%20one%E2%80%99s%20country%3B%20death%20even%20pursues%20the%20man%20that%20flies%20from%20him%3B%20nor%20does%20he%20spare%20the%20trembling%20knees%20of%20effeminate%20youth%2C%20nor%20the%20coward%20back.">Smart/Buckley</a> (1853)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For our dear native land to die<br>
<span class="tab">Is glorious and sweet;<br>
And death the coward slaves that fly<br>
<span class="tab">Pursues with steps as fleet. <br>
Nor spares the loins and backs of those <br>
Unwarlike youths, who shun their foes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoracetran00horarich/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22For+our+dear%22">Martin</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Glorious and sweet it is to die for the dear native land;<br>
Even him who runs away from Death, Death follows fast behind -- <br>
<span class="tab">Death does not spare the recreant back, <br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">And hamstrings limbs that flee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesandepodesho05horagoog/page/244/mode/2up?q=%22glorious+and+sweet%22">Bulwer-Lytton</a> (1870)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sweet and glorious it is to die for our country. Death also pursues the runaway, and spares not the legs and trembling back of the unwarlike youth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Horace/-f8pAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sweet%20and%20glorious%22">Elgood</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'T is sweet for native land to die, <br>
<span class="tab">'T is noble: Death takes them that fly: <br>
For coward back it has no ruth, <br>
<span class="tab">Nor spares the flight of dastard youth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/a587951400horauoft/page/n95/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+for+native+land%22">Gladstone</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis sweet and noble -- Death for one's country's sake --<br>
Death overtakes the cowardly fugitive. <br>
<span class="tab">Nor spares his flying limbs, and timid<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Back, as he runs from the foe dishonour'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoraceinen00horarich/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+noble%22">Phelps</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis sweet and honourable to die for fatherland.<br>
Death follows even the man who flees.<br>
<span class="tab">And of unwarlike youth<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Spares not the loins and recreant back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924026490726/page/n161/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+honourable%22">Garnsey</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Good 'tis and fine, for fatherland to die!<br>
Death tracks him too who shirks; nor will He fail <br>
<span class="tab">To smite the coward loins that quail, <br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">The coward limbs that fly!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/horacescompletew00hora/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22fatherland+to+die%22">Marshall</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis sweet and glorious to die for fatherland. Yet Death o’ertakes not less the runaway, nor spares the limbs and coward backs of faint-hearted youths.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.98705/page/n201/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+glorious%22">Bennett</a> (Loeb) (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To die for Homeland is a sweet <br>
<span class="tab">And gracious thing; on flying feet <br>
Death presses hard, nor spares to smite<br>
<span class="tab">Poltroons' weak knees and backs affright.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhoracemills00horaiala/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22die+for+Homeland%22">Mills</a> (1924)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How good, how noble to die for your country.<br>
Death chases those who run from him,<br>
And catches them, sand never spares a coward<br>
Or a womanish boy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essentialhoraceo0000hora/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22how+good+how%22">Raffel</a> (1983)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sweet and proper it is to die for your country,<br>
But Death would just as soon come after him <br>
Who runs away; Death gets him by the backs<br>
Of his fleeing knees and jumps him from behind. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odesofhorace00hora_1/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+proper%22">Ferry</a> (1997)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sweet and noble is it to die for one’s country, yet Death pursues even the man who flees, nor does he spare the languid loins and cowardly backs of pusillanimous youth. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeodessati0000hora/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+noble%22">Alexander</a> (1999)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It’s sweet and fitting to die for one’s country.<br>
Yet death chases after the soldier who runs,<br>
and it won’t spare the cowardly back<br>
or the limbs, of peace-loving young men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceOdesBkIII.php#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20sweet%20and,loving%20young%20men.">Kline</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is sweet and proper to die for your country:<br>
Death, too, pursues the runaway man<br>
And does not spare the knees of a peaceful youth<br>
nor a fearful back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Odes_(Horace)/Book_III/2#:~:text=It%20is%20sweet%20and%20proper%20to%20die%20for%20your%20country%3A%0ADeath%2C%20too%2C%20pursues%20the%20runaway%20man%0AAnd%20does%20not%20spare%20the%20knees%20of%20a%20peaceful%20youth%0Anor%20a%20fearful%20back">Wikisource</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Talmud -- (Unreferenced)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When man appears before the Throne of Judgment, the first question he is asked is not: &#8220;Have you believed in God?&#8221; or &#8220;Have you prayed and observed the ritual?&#8221; He is asked: &#8220;Have you dealt honorably and faithfully in all your dealings with your fellow man?&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When man appears before the Throne of Judgment, the first question he is asked is not: &#8220;Have you believed in God?&#8221; or &#8220;Have you prayed and observed the ritual?&#8221;  He is asked: &#8220;Have you dealt honorably and faithfully in all your dealings with your fellow man?&#8221;</p>
<br><b>The Talmud</b> (AD 200-500) Collection of Jewish rabbinical writings<br>(Unreferenced) 
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		<title>Smith, Sydney -- Memoir of the Reverend Sydney Smith, by His Daughter, Lady Holland, Vol. 1, ch.  4 (1855)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid shame but do not seek glory &#8212; nothing so expensive as glory.</p>
<br><b>Sydney Smith</b> (1771-1845) English clergyman, essayist, wit<br><i>Memoir of the Reverend Sydney Smith, by His Daughter, Lady Holland</i>, Vol. 1, ch.  4 (1855) 
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Noted as his "favorite motto."



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		<title>Aristotle -- Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια], Book  1, ch.  6 (1.6, 1096a.15) (c. 325 BC) [tr. Crisp (2000)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will presumably be thought better, indeed one&#8217;s duty, to do away with even what is close to one&#8217;s heart in order to preserve the truth, especially when one is a philosopher. For one might love both, but it is nevertheless a sacred duty to prefer the truth to one&#8217;s friends. [ἀληθείας καὶ τὰ οἰκεῖα [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will presumably be thought better, indeed one&#8217;s duty, to do away with even what is close to one&#8217;s heart in order to preserve the truth, especially when one is a philosopher. For one might love both, but it is nevertheless a sacred duty to prefer the truth to one&#8217;s friends.</p>
<p>[ἀληθείας καὶ τὰ οἰκεῖα ἀναιρεῖν, ἄλλως τε καὶ φιλοσόφους ὄντας: ἀμφοῖν γὰρ ὄντοιν φίλοιν ὅσιον προτιμᾶν τὴν ἀλήθειαν.]</p>
<br><b>Aristotle</b> (384-322 BC) Greek philosopher<br><i>Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια]</i>, Book  1, ch.  6 (1.6, 1096a.15) (c. 325 BC) [tr. Crisp (2000)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aristotle_Nicomachean_Ethics/A0ZpBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=indeed%20one's%20duty" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This is actually not given as a general guideline for living life, but specifically about offering a philosophical argument in opposition that offered by friends. (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text.jsp?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0053%3Abekker+page%3D1096a%3Abekker+line%3D15#:~:text=%E1%BC%80%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%82%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%BF%E1%BC%B0%CE%BA%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%CE%B1%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%81%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%CE%BD%2C%20%E1%BC%84%CE%BB%CE%BB%CF%89%CF%82%20%CF%84%CE%B5%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%86%CE%B9%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%83%CF%8C%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%82%20%E1%BD%84%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%82%3A%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BC%CF%86%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CE%BD%20%CE%B3%E1%BD%B0%CF%81%20%E1%BD%84%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%85%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%BD%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BC%E1%BE%B6%CE%BD%20%CF%84%E1%BD%B4%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BB%CE%AE%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Still perhaps it may appear better, nay to be our duty where the safety of the truth is concerned, to upset if need be even our own theories, specially as we are lovers of wisdom: for since both are dear to us, we are bound to prefer the truth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/8438/pg8438-images.html#:~:text=Still%20perhaps%20it%20may%20appear%20better%2C%20nay%20to%20be%20our%20duty%20where%20the%20safety%20of%20the%20truth%20is%20concerned%2C%20to%20upset%20if%20need%20be%20even%20our%20own%20theories%2C%20specially%20as%20we%20are%20lovers%20of%20wisdom%3A%20for%20since%20both%20are%20dear%20to%20us%2C%20we%20are%20bound%20to%20prefer%20the%20truth.">Chase</a> (1847), ch. 3]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And yet, where the interests of truth are at actual stake, we ought, perhaps, to sacrifice even that which is our own -- if, at least, we are to lay any claim to a philosophic spirit. Both are dear to us alike, but truth must be religiously preserved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/m7RCAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22claim%20to%20a%20philosophic%20spirit%22">Williams</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet it will perhaps seem the best, and indeed the right course, at least when the truth is at stake, to go so far as to sacrifice what is near and dear to us, especially as we are philosophers. For friends and truth are both dear to us, but it is a sacred duty to prefer the truth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/T04yAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA9&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22especially%20as%20we%20are%20philosophers%22">Welldon</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In the interests of truth we ought to sacrifice even what is nearest to us, especially as we call ourselves philosophers. Both are dear to us, but it is a sacred duty to give the preference to truth. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/peters-the-nicomachean-ethics#:~:text=in%20the%20interests%20of%20truth%20we%20ought%20to%20sacrifice%20even%20what%20is%20nearest%20to%20us%2C%20especially%20as%20we%20call%20ourselves%20philosophers.%20Both%20are%20dear%20to%20us%2C%20but%20it%20is%20a%20sacred%20duty%20to%20give%20the%20preference%20to%20truth.">Peters</a> (1893)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet it would perhaps be thought to be better, indeed to be our duty, for the sake of maintaining the truth even to destroy what touches us closely, especially as we are philosophers or lovers of wisdom; for, while both are dear, piety requires us to honour truth above our friends.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://classics.mit.edu//Aristotle/nicomachaen.1.i.html#:~:text=Yet%20it%20would%20perhaps%20be%20thought%20to%20be%20better%2C%20indeed%20to%20be%20our%20duty%2C%20for%20the%20sake%20of%20maintaining%20the%20truth%20even%20to%20destroy%20what%20touches%20us%20closely%2C%20especially%20as%20we%20are%20philosophers%20or%20lovers%20of%20wisdom%3B%20for%2C%20while%20both%20are%20dear%2C%20piety%20requires%20us%20to%20honour%20truth%20above%20our%20friends.">Ross</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Still perhaps it would appear desirable, and indeed it would seem to be obligatory, especially for a philosopher, to sacrifice even one's closest personal ties in defense of the truth. Both are dear to us, yet 'tis our duty to prefer the truth.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0086.tlg010.perseus-eng1:1.6.1">Rackham</a> (1934)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet it would seem better, perhaps, and something we should do, at any rate when the preservation of the truth is at stake, to confute even what is properly our own, most of all because we are philosophers. For while we love both our friends and the truth, it is a pious thing to accord greater honor to the truth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Nicomachean_Ethics/Rq3xAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA6&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22pious%20thing%20to%20accord%22">Reeve</a> (1948)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet it would perhaps be thought better, and also our duty, to forsake even what is close to us in order to preserve the truth, especially as we are philosophers; for while both are dear, it is sacred to honor truth above friendship.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics/pD3wCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22honor%20truth%20above%20friendship%22">Apostle</a> (1975), ch. 4] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet surely it would be thought better, or rather necessary (above all for philosophers), to refute, in defence of truth , even views to which one is attached; since both are dear, it is right to give preference to the truth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics/iBoqmEvavawC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA10&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22give%20preference%20to%20the%20truth%22">Thomson/Tredennick</a> (1976)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Still, it presumably seems better, indeed only right, to destroy even what is close to us if that is the way to preserve truth. And we must especially do this when we are philosophers, lovers of wisdom; for though we love both the truth and our friends, piety requires us to honor the truth first.<br> 
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aristotle_Selections/sctgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22piety%20requires%20us%20to%20honor%20the%20truth%20first%22&pg=PA352&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22piety%20requires%20us%20to%20honor%20the%20truth%20first%22">Irwin/Fine</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But perhaps it might be held to be better, in fact to be obligatory, at least for the sake of preserving the truth, to do away with even one's own things, especially for those who are philosophers. For although both are clear, it is a pious thing to honor the truth first.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aristotle_s_Nicomachean_Ethics/3JuePlN_03cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22least%20for%20the%20sake%22">Bartlett/Collins</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Stevenson, Robert Louis -- Essay (1878-04), &#8220;Æs Triplex,&#8221; Cornhill Magazine, Vol. 37</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means begin your folio; even if the doctor does not give you a year, even if he hesitates about a month, make one brave push and see what can be accomplished in a week. It is not only in finished undertakings that we ought to honour useful labour.</p>
<br><b>Robert Louis Stevenson</b> (1850–1894) Scottish essayist, novelist, poet<br>Essay (1878-04), &#8220;Æs Triplex,&#8221; <i>Cornhill Magazine</i>, Vol. 37 
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<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Virginibus_Puerisque_and_Other_Papers/%C3%86s_Triplex#:~:text=By%20all%20means%20begin%20your%20folio%3B%20even%20if%20the%20doctor%20does%20not%20give%20you%20a%20year%2C%20even%20if%20he%20hesitates%20about%20a%20month%2C%20make%20one%20brave%20push%20and%20see%20what%20can%20be%20accomplished%20in%20a%20week.%20It%20is%20not%20only%20in%20finished%20undertakings%20that%20we%20ought%20to%20honour%20useful%20labour.">Collected</a> in <i>Virginibus Puerisque and Other Papers</i> (1881).

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		<description><![CDATA[I abhor unjust war. I abhor injustice and bullying by the strong at the expense of the weak, whether among nations or individuals. I abhor violence and bloodshed. I believe that war should never be resorted to when, or so long as, it is honorably possible to avoid it. I respect all men and women [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I abhor unjust war. I abhor injustice and bullying by the strong at the expense of the weak, whether among nations or individuals. I abhor violence and bloodshed. I believe that war should never be resorted to when, or so long as, it is honorably possible to avoid it. I respect all men and women who from high motives and with sanity and self-respect do all they can to avert war. I advocate preparation for war in order to avert war; and I should never advocate war unless it were the only alternative to dishonor.</p>
<br><b>Theodore Roosevelt</b> (1858–1919) American politician, statesman, conservationist, writer, US President (1901–1909)<br><i>Autobiography</i>, ch.  7 &#8220;The War of America the Unready&#8221; (1913) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by.</p>
<br><b>Will Rogers</b> (1879-1935) American humorist<br>(Attributed) 
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Variant: "We all can't be heroes, for someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by."<br><br>

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		<title>Publilius Syrus -- Sententiae [Moral Sayings], # 265</title>
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<br><b>Publilius Syrus</b> (d. 42 BC) Assyrian slave, writer, philosopher [less correctly Publius Syrus]<br><i>Sententiae [Moral Sayings]</i>, # 265 
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		<title>Aristotle -- Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια], Book 10, ch.  9 (10.9.3-4) / 1179b.10ff (c. 325 BC) [tr. Crisp (2000)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Arguments] seem unable to influence the masses in the direction of what is noble and good. For the masses naturally obey fear, not shame, and abstain from shameful acts because of the punishments associated with them, not because they are disgraceful. [τοὺς δὲ πολλοὺς ἀδυνατεῖν πρὸς καλοκαγαθίαν προτρέψασθαι: οὐ γὰρ πεφύκασιν αἰδοῖ πειθαρχεῖν ἀλλὰ φόβῳ, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Arguments] seem unable to influence the masses in the direction of what is noble and good. For the masses naturally obey fear, not shame, and abstain from shameful acts because of the punishments associated with them, not because they are disgraceful.</p>
<p>[τοὺς δὲ πολλοὺς ἀδυνατεῖν πρὸς καλοκαγαθίαν προτρέψασθαι: οὐ γὰρ πεφύκασιν αἰδοῖ πειθαρχεῖν ἀλλὰ φόβῳ, οὐδ᾽ ἀπέχεσθαι τῶν φαύλων διὰ τὸ αἰσχρὸν ἀλλὰ διὰ τὰς τιμωρίας]</p>
<br><b>Aristotle</b> (384-322 BC) Greek philosopher<br><i>Nicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια]</i>, Book 10, ch.  9 (10.9.3-4) / 1179b.10ff (c. 325 BC) [tr. Crisp (2000)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aristotle_Nicomachean_Ethics/A0ZpBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22unable%20to%20influence%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0086.tlg010.perseus-grc1:1179b.10">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>[Talking and writing] plainly are powerless to guide the mass of men to Virtue and goodness; because it is not their nature to be amenable to a sense of shame but only to fear; nor to abstain from what is low and mean because it is disgraceful to do it but because of the punishment attached to it<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/8438/pg8438-images.html#:~:text=they%20as%20plainly%20are%20powerless%20to%20guide%20the%20mass%20of%20men%20to%20Virtue%20and%20goodness%3B%20because%20it%20is%20not%20their%20nature%20to%20be%20amenable%20to%20a%20sense%20of%20shame%20but%20only%20to%20fear%3B%20nor%20to%20abstain%20from%20what%20is%20low%20and%20mean%20because%20it%20is%20disgraceful%20to%20do%20it%20but%20because%20of%20the%20punishment%20attached%20to%20it">Chase</a> (1847), ch. 8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But, for most men, mere precept is powerless to dispose them to noble conduct. For their nature is such, that they are not ruled by a proper sense of shame, but only by fear, and do not abstain from vice because of the disgrace which attaches to it, but because of the punishment which its practice involves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/m7RCAAAAIAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ruled%20by%20a%20proper%20sense%20of%20shame%22">Williams</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[Theories] are impotent to inspire the mass of men to chivalrous action; for it is not the nature of such men to obey honour but terror, nor to abstain from evil for fear of disgrace but for fear of punishment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics_of_Aristotle/T04yAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22men%20to%20chivalrous%20action%22">Welldon</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet [theories] are powerless to turn the mass of men to goodness. For the generality of men are naturally apt to be swayed by fear rather than by reverence, and to refrain from evil rather because of the punishment that it brings than because of its own foulness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/peters-the-nicomachean-ethics#:~:text=yet%20they%20are,its%20own%20foulness.">Peters</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[Arguments] are not able to encourage the many to nobility and goodness. For these do not by nature obey the sense of shame, but only fear, and do not abstain from bad acts because of their baseness but through fear of punishment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicomachean_Ethics_(Ross)/Book_Ten#:~:text=they%20are%20not%20able%20to%20encourage%20the%20many%20to%20nobility%20and%20goodness.%20For%20these%20do%20not%20by%20nature%20obey%20the%20sense%20of%20shame%2C%20but%20only%20fear%2C%20and%20do%20not%20abstain%20from%20bad%20acts%20because%20of%20their%20baseness%20but%20through%20fear%20of%20punishment">Ross</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet [theories] are powerless to stimulate the mass of mankind to moral nobility. For it is the nature of the many to be amenable to fear but not to a sense of honor, and to abstain from evil not because of its baseness but because of the penalties it entails.<br> 
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0054%3Abekker%20page%3D1179b%3Abekker%20line%3D1#:~:text=yet%20they%20are%20powerless%20to%20stimulate%20the%20mass%20of%20mankind%20to%20moral%20nobility.%20%5B4%5D%20For%20it%20is%20the%20nature%20of%20the%20many%20to%20be%20amenable%20to%20fear%20but%20not%20to%20a%20sense%20of%20honor%2C%20and%20to%20abstain%20from%20evil%20not%20because%20of%20its%20baseness%20but%20because%20of%20the%20penalties%20it%20entails">Rackham</a> (1934)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[Arguments are] unable to encourage ordinary people toward noble-goodness. For ordinary people naturally obey not shame but fear and abstain from base things not because of their shamefulness but because of the sanctions involved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Nicomachean_Ethics/Rq3xAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22unable%20to%20encourage%20ordinary%22">Reeve</a> (1948)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[Arguments] cannot exhort ordinary men to do good and noble deeds, for it is the nature of these men to obey not a sense of shame but fear, and to abstain from what is bad not because this is disgraceful but because of the penalties which they would receive.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics/pD3wCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=obey%20not%20a%20sense%20of%20shame">Apostle</a> (1975)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[Discourses] are incapable of impelling the masses toward human perfection. For it is the nature of the many to be ruled by fear rather than by shame, and to refrain from evil not because of the disgrace but because of the punishments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Nicomachean_Ethics/iBoqmEvavawC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22impelling%20the%20masses%22">Thomson/Tredennick</a> (1976)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But [arguments] seem unable to turn the many toward being fine and good. For the many naturally obey fear, not shame; they avoid what is base because of the penalties, not because it is disgraceful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780872204645/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22unable+to+turn+the+many%22">Irwin/Fine</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Kennedy, John F. -- Speech (1961-01-09), Massachusetts legislature, Boston</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For of those to whom much is given, much is required. And when at some future date the high court of history sits in judgment on each of us &#8212; recording whether in our brief span of service we fulfilled our responsibilities to the state &#8212; our success or failure, in whatever office we hold, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">For of those to whom much is given, much is required. And when at some future date the high court of history sits in judgment on each of us &#8212; recording whether in our brief span of service we fulfilled our responsibilities to the state &#8212; our success or failure, in whatever office we hold, will be measured by the answers to four questions:<br />
<span class="tab">First, were we truly men of courage &#8212; with the courage to stand up to one&#8217;s enemies &#8212; and the courage to stand up, when necessary, to one’s associates &#8212; the courage to resist public pressure, as well as private greed?<br />
<span class="tab">Secondly, were we truly men of judgment &#8212; with perceptive judgment of the future as well as the past &#8212; of our mistakes as well as the mistakes of others &#8212; with enough wisdom to know what we did not know and enough candor to admit it.<br />
<span class="tab">Third, were we truly men of integrity &#8212; men who never ran out on either the principles in which we believed or the men who believed in us &#8212; men whom neither financial gain nor political ambition could ever divert from the fulfillment of our sacred trust?<br />
<span class="tab">Finally, were we truly men of dedication &#8212; with an honor mortgaged to no single individual or group, and comprised of no private obligation or aim, but devoted solely to serving the public good and the national interest?<br />
<span class="tab">Courage &#8212; judgment &#8212; integrity &#8212; dedication &#8212; these are the historic qualities […] which, with God&#8217;s help [&#8230;] will characterize our Government&#8217;s conduct in the four stormy years that lie ahead.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>John F. Kennedy</b> (1917-1963) American politician, author, journalist, US President (1961–63)<br>Speech (1961-01-09), Massachusetts legislature, Boston 
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<br><b>Walter Lippmann</b> (1889-1974) American journalist and author<br><i>A Preface to Morals</i>, 11.3 (1929) 
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		<description><![CDATA[Dignity does not consist in possessing honors, but in deserving them. Variant: &#8220;Dignity consists not in possessing honors, but in the consciousness that we deserve them.&#8221; Citation not identified. Earliest reference found in 1854.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dignity does not consist in possessing honors, but in deserving them.</p>
<br><b>Aristotle</b> (384-322 BC) Greek philosopher<br>(Attributed) 
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Variant: "Dignity consists not in possessing honors, but in the consciousness that we deserve them."<br><br> 

Citation not identified. Earliest reference found in <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Proverbs_of_All_Nations/YzVAAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=aristotle%20%22Dignity%20does%20not%20consist%22&pg=PP4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Dignity%20does%20not%20consist%22">1854</a>.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those blush to lose a conquering game,<br />
And fain would peril life for fame:<br />
These bring success their zeal to fan;<br />
They can because they think they can.</p>
<p><em>[Hi proprium decus et partum indignantur honorem<br />
ni teneant, vitamque volunt pro laude pacisci;<br />
hos successus alit: possunt, quia posse videntur.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  5, l. 229ff (5.229-231) (29-19 BC) [tr. Conington (1866)] 
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Of the crews of the two remaining ships racing at the funeral games of Anchises: Cloanthus' <i>Scylla</i> which is closing on the finish line; Mnestheus' <i>Pristis</i> which has come up from last place and may yet take the lead. (Cloanthus wins the race by offering a sacrifice to the sea gods.)<br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D5%3Acard%3D225#:~:text=Hi%20proprium%20decus,posse%20videntur.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>These their new glory, honours got despise,<br>
Unless they keep it, and to gaine the prize<br>
Would sell their lives; success feeds them; they may<br>
Because they think they can obtain the day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.5?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=These%20their%20new,obtain%20the%20day.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Resolv'd to hold their own, they mend their pace,<br>
All obstinate to die, or gain the race.<br>
Rais'd with success, the <em>Dolphin</em> swiftly ran;<br>
For they can conquer, who believe they can.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_V#:~:text=Resolv%27d%20to%20hold%20their%20own%2C%20they%20mend%20their%20pace%2C%0AAll%20obstinate%20to%20die%2C%20or%20gain%20the%20race.%0ARais%27d%20with%20success%2C%20the%20Dolphin%20swiftly%20ran%3B%0AFor%20they%20can%20conquer%2C%20who%20believe%20they%20can.">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These are fired with indignation, lest they should lose their possession of glory and honor they have won; and they are willing to barter life for renown. Those success cherishes; they are able because they seem to be able.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22able%20because%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These scorn to lose the honour that is their own, the glory in their grasp, and would sell life for renown; to these success lends life; power comes with belief in it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_FIFTH:~:text=These%20scorn%20to%20lose%20the%20honour%20that%20is%20their%20own%2C%20the%20glory%20in%20their%20grasp%2C%20and%20would%20sell%20life%20for%20renown%3B%20to%20these%20success%20lends%20life%3B%20power%20comes%20with%20belief%20in%20it.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These, thinking shame of letting fall their hardly-gotten gain<br>
Of glory's meed, to buy the praise with very life are fain;<br>
Those, fed on good-hap, all things may, because they deem they may<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_V:~:text=These%2C%20thinking%20shame,deem%20they%20may">Morris</a> (1900), l. 228ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These scorn to lose their vantage, stung with shame,<br>
And life is wagered willingly for fame.<br>
Success inspires the hindmost; as they dare,<br>
They do; the thought of winning wins the game.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#book5line136:~:text=These%20scorn%20to%20lose%20their%20vantage%2C%20stung%20with%20shame%2C%0AAnd%20life%20is%20wagered%20willingly%20for%20fame.%0ASuccess%20inspires%20the%20hindmost%3B%20as%20they%20dare%2C%0AThey%20do%3B%20the%20thought%20of%20winning%20wins%20the%20game.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 31, l. 274ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The leaders now with eager souls would scorn<br>
to lose their glory, and faint-hearted fail<br>
to grasp a prize half-won, but fain would buy<br>
honor with life itself; the followers too<br>
are flushed with proud success, and feel them strong<br>
because their strength is proven.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D5%3Acard%3D225#:~:text=The%20leaders%20now%20with%20eager%20souls%20would%20scorn%0Ato%20Iose%20their%20glory%2C%20and%20faint%2Dhearted%20fail%0Ato%20grasp%20a%20prize%20half%2Dwon%2C%20but%20fain%20would%20buy%0Ahonor%20with%20life%20itself%3B%20the%20followers%20too%0Aare%20flushed%20with%20proud%20success%2C%20and%20feel%20them%20strong%0Abecause%20their%20strength%20is%20proven.">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These think it shame not to keep the honour that is theirs, the glory they have won, and would barter life for fame: those success heartens; strong are they, for strong they deem themselves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n469/mode/2up?q=%22strong+are+they%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On the <i>Scylla</i><br>
They would give their lives to hold their place, they have won it,<br>
The glory and honor are theirs already, almost;<br>
And Mnestheus’ men take courage from their nearness;<br>
They can because they think they can.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_V:~:text=On%20the%20Scylla,think%20they%20can.">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One crew was compelled by the shame of losing a prize they had all but <br>
Gained for their own, and would give their lives for its glory; the other<br>
Was fired by success -- they could do it because they believed they could do it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22they+could+do+it%22">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cloanthus' crewmen<br>
now think it a disgrace to fail to keep<br>
the fame and honor they themselves have won,<br>
and they would give their very lives for glory;<br>
but Menestheus' men are strengthened by success,<br>
they have the power because they feel they have it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22they+could+do+it%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 301ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One crew fought off the shame of losing honor<br>
Theirs already, glory won; they'd give<br>
Their lives for fame; but luck empowered the others<br>
Who felt that they could do it, and so could.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/132/mode/2up?q=%22and+so+could%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 294ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cloanthus and his men on the <i>Scylla</i> saw the honour as theirs by right. They had already won the victory and had no intention of giving it up. They would rather have lost their lives than lose the glory. Mnestheus and his men on the <i>Pristis</i> were feeding on success. They could win because they thought they could.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22thought+they+could%22">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The former crew are unhappy lest they fail to keep<br>
the honour that is theirs and the glory already<br>
in their possession, and would sell their lives for fame.<br>
the latter feed on success: they can because they think they can.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidV.php#anchor_Toc1537951:~:text=The%20former%20crew,think%20they%20can.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One crew, stung by the shame of losing victory now<br>
with glory won, would trade their lives for fame.<br>
But Mnestheus and his crew, fired by their success,<br>
can just about win the day because they think they can.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22they%20think%20they%20can%22">Fagles</a> (2006), l. 256ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One crew would hate to lose the glory of an honor all but one. They'd trade their lives for victory. The others were encouraged by success. Belief in victory spurred them on.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22one%20crew%20would%20hate%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Twain, Mark -- The Autobiography of Mark Twain, Vol. 1, 1864 (2010)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thoroughly disapprove of duels. I consider them unwise, and I know they are dangerous. Also, sinful. If a man should challenge me now, I would got to that man and take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet, retired spot, and <i>kill</i> him.</p>
<br><b>Mark Twain</b> (1835-1910) American writer [pseud. of Samuel Clemens]<br><i>The Autobiography of Mark Twain</i>, Vol. 1, 1864 (2010) 
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Seen paraphrased: "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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		<title>Plato -- Republic, Book 1, 347c</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The punishment which the wise suffer who refuse to take part in the government is to live under the government of worse men. In Ralph Waldo Emerson, &#8220;Eloquence,&#8221; Society and Solitude (1870). Alt. trans.: &#8220;One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics, is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.&#8221; The [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The punishment which the wise suffer who refuse to take part in the government is to live under the government of worse men.</p>
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<br><b>Plato</b> (c.428-347 BC) Greek philosopher<br><i>Republic</i>, Book 1, 347c 
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In Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Eloquence," <em>Society and Solitude</em> (1870).<br><br>

Alt. trans.:<ul>
	<li>"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics, is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."</li>
	<li>The Constitution Party (1952-68) used on their letterhead the variant, "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."</li>
	<li>"The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men."</li>
	<li>"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber."</li>
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More discussion <a href="https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Plato">here</a>.<br><br>

<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0168%3Abook%3D1%3Asection%3D347a">In context</a> (<em>Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 </em> [tr. Shorey (1969)]):
<blockquote>[346e] "Then, Thrasymachus, is not this immediately apparent, that no art or office provides what is beneficial for itself -- but as we said long ago it provides and enjoins what is beneficial to its subject, considering the advantage of that, the weaker, and not the advantage the stronger? That was why, friend Thrasymachus, I was just now saying that no one of his own will chooses to hold rule and office and take other people's troubles in hand to straighten them out, but everybody expects pay for that,
[347a] because he who is to exercise the art rightly never does what is best for himself or enjoins it when he gives commands according to the art, but what is best for the subject. That is the reason, it seems, why pay must be provided for those who are to consent to rule, either in form of money or honor or a penalty if they refuse."
"What do you mean by that, Socrates?" said Glaucon. "The two wages I recognize, but the penalty you speak of and described as a form of wage I don't understand." "Then," said I, "you don't understand the wages of the best men
[347b] for the sake of which the finest spirits hold office and rule when they consent to do so. Don't you know that to be covetous of honor and covetous of money is said to be and is a reproach?" "I do," he said. "Well, then," said I, "that is why the good are not willing to rule either for the sake of money or of honor. They do not wish to collect pay openly for their service of rule and be styled hirelings nor to take it by stealth from their office and be called thieves, nor yet for the sake of honor,
[347c] for they are not covetous of honor. So there must be imposed some compulsion and penalty to constrain them to rule if they are to consent to hold office. That is perhaps why to seek office oneself and not await compulsion is thought disgraceful. <strong>But the chief penalty is to be governed by someone worse if a man will not himself hold office and rule.</strong> It is from fear of this, as it appears to me, that the better sort hold office when they do, and then they go to it not in the expectation of enjoyment nor as to a good thing, but as to a necessary evil and because they are unable to turn it over to better men than themselves
[347d] or to their like. For we may venture to say that, if there should be a city of good men only, immunity from office-holding would be as eagerly contended for as office is now, and there it would be made plain that in very truth the true ruler does not naturally seek his own advantage but that of the ruled; so that every man of understanding would rather choose to be benefited by another than to be bothered with benefiting him. "</blockquote>






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		<title>Bolt, Robert -- A Man for All Seasons, play, Act 2 (1960)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">MORE: When a man takes an oath, Meg, he&#8217;s holding his own self in his hands. Like water <i>(cups hands)</i> and if he opens his fingers <i>then,</i> he needn&#8217;t hope to find himself again.</p>
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<br><b>Robert Bolt</b> (1924-1995) English dramatist<br><i>A Man for All Seasons</i>, play, Act 2 (1960) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/manforallseasons0000unse_m6c8/page/82/mode/2up?q=%22man+takes+an+oath+meg%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Answering to his daughter Margaret, who is trying to convince him to swear to the Act of Succession so that he can be freed from the Tower. In the <a href="http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/m/man-for-all-seasons-script.html#:~:text=When%20a%20man%20takes%20an%20oath%2C%20he%27s%20holding%0A%0Ahis%20own%20self%20in%20his%20own%20hands...%0A%0A%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%0A...Iike%20water.%0A%0A%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%0AAnd%20if%20he%20opens%20his%20fingers%20then%2C%0A%0Ahe%20needn%27t%20hope%20to%20find%20himself%20again.">1966 screenplay</a>, the same dialogue is used. 


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		<title>La Rochefoucauld, Francois -- Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims], ¶157 (1665-1678) [tr. Tancock (1959)]</title>
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<br><b>François VI, duc de La Rochefoucauld</b> (1613-1680) French epigrammatist, memoirist, noble<br><i>Réflexions ou sentences et maximes morales [Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims]</i>, ¶157 (1665-1678) [tr. Tancock (1959)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/maxims0000laro/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22glory+of+great%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Appeared in the 1st edition (1665), reading <i>"La gloire des grands hommes se doit mesurer aux moyens qu’ils ont eus pour l’acquérir."</i><br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/%C5%92uvres_de_La_Rochefoucauld_-_T.1/R%C3%A9flexions_ou_sentences_et_maximes_morales#cite_ref-250:~:text=La%20gloire%20des%20grands%20hommes%20se%20doit%20toujours%20mesurer%20aux%20moyens%20dont%20ils%20se%20sont%20servis%20pour%20l%E2%80%99acqu%C3%A9rir">Source (French)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Great mens Honour ought always to be measured by the Methods they made use of for the attaining it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A49601.0001.001/1:6.158?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">Stanhope</a> (1694), ¶158]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The glory of great men ought always to be rated according to the means used to acquire it.<br>
[pub. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsandmoralr00rochgoog/page/n71/mode/2up?q=%22The+glory+of+great+m%5En+%22">Donaldson</a> (1783), ¶191; ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsmoralrefle00larouoft/page/55/mode/1up?q=glory">Lepoittevin-Lacroix</a> (1797), ¶151]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The glory of great men is ever to be rated according to the means used to acquire it.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044019833292&view=1up&seq=58&skin=2021&q1=%22great%20men%22">Carvill</a> (1835), ¶159]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The glory of men should always be proportioned to the means they have employed to acquire it.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433075829600&view=2up&seq=92&skin=2021&q1=%22glory%20of%20men%22">Gowens</a> (1851), ¶161]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The fame of great men ought always to be estimated by the means used to acquire it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://gutenberg.org/files/9105/9105-h/9105-h.htm#:~:text=The%20fame%20of%20great%20men%20ought%20always%20to%20be%20estimated%20by%20the%20means%20used%20to%20acquire%20it.">Bund/Friswell</a> (1871), ¶157]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Glory is measured by the means used to attain it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Maxims_of_Le_Duc_de_La_Rochefoucauld/eq89AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22glory%20is%20measured%22">Heard</a> (1917), ¶157]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The fame of great men should always be measured by the means they employed to acquire it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Maxims_of_Fran%C3%A7ois_Duc_de_La_Rochefouca/7RtLAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=fame%20means%20acquire">Stevens</a> (1939), ¶157]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A great man's fame must always be measured against the means used to acquire it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsofducdelar0000laro/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22great+man%27s+fame%22">FitzGibbon</a> (1957), ¶157] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The fame of great men should always be judged by the methods they employed to achieve it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/maximsoflarochef00laro/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22fame+of+great+men%22">Kronenberger</a> (1959), ¶157]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The glory of great men must always be measured according to the means by which they have acquired it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://thomaswhichello.com/a-translation-of-reflections-or-sentences-and-moral-maxims-by-francois-de-la-rochefoucauld/#:~:text=The%20glory%20of%20great%20men%20must%C2%A0always%20be%20measured%20according%20to%20the%20means%20by%20which%20they%20have%20acquired%20it.">Whichello</a> (2016) ¶157]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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