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		<title>Martin, Judith -- Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, Ms magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etiquette never works with people of ill will.</p>
<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br>Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, <i>Ms</i> magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04) 
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		<title>Moliere -- Tartuffe, or the Hypocrite [Le Tartuffe, ou L&#8217;Imposteur], Act 5, sc. 3 (1669) [tr. Wilbur (1963)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[MME. PERNELLE: The tongues of spite are busy night and noon. And to their venom no man is immune. [Les langues ont toujours du venin à répandre, Et rien n&#8217;est ici-bas qui s&#8217;en puisse défendre.] Dismissing the accusations against Tartuffe by her son, Orgon. (Source (French)). Alternate translations: Tongues never want for Venom to spit; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">MME. PERNELLE: The tongues of spite are busy night and noon.<br />
And to their venom no man is immune.</p>
<p></p>
<p><em>[Les langues ont toujours du venin à répandre,<br />
Et rien n&#8217;est ici-bas qui s&#8217;en puisse défendre.]</em></p>
<br><b>Molière</b> (1622-1673) French playwright, actor [stage name for Jean-Baptiste Poquelin]<br><i>Tartuffe, or the Hypocrite [Le Tartuffe, ou L&#8217;Imposteur]</i>, Act 5, sc. 3 (1669) [tr. Wilbur (1963)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/misanthropetartu00moli/page/304/mode/2up?q=%22tongues+of+spite%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Dismissing the accusations against Tartuffe by her son, Orgon.<br><br>

(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Tartuffe_ou_l%E2%80%99Imposteur/%C3%89dition_Chasles,_1888#:~:text=Les%20langues%20ont%20toujours%20du%20venin%20%C3%A0%20r%C3%A9pandre%2C%0AEt%20rien%20c%E2%80%99est%20ici%2Dbas%20qui%20s%E2%80%99en%20puisse%20d%C3%A9fendre.">Source (French)</a>).  Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Tongues never want for Venom to spit; nothing here below can be Proof against them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Moliere/6GEzAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22tongues%20never%20want%22">Clitandre</a> (1672)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Evil tongues have always venom to scatter abroad, and nothing here below can guard against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Dramatic_Works_of_Moli%C3%A8re_M%C3%A9licert/vdFMAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22evil%20tongues%22">Van Laun</a> (1876)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Evil tongues have always some venom to pour fourth; and here below there is nothing proof against them. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Dramatic_Works_of_Moli%C3%A8re_The_force/9KRiy5RyJ-cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA331&printsec=frontcover&dq=venom">Wall</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tongues never lack venom to spread about. Nothing in this world can be proof against them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedies00molirich/page/474/mode/2up?q=%22tongues+never+lack%22">Mathew</a> (1890), 5.2]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tongues are always ready to spit venom: nothing here below is proof against them. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Plays_of_Moli%C3%A8re_in_French/ry1zVvUyoCgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22spit%20venom%22">Waller</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Their tongues for spitting venom never lack,<br>
There's nothing here below they'll not attack.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tartuffe_or_the_Hypocrite#:~:text=Their%20tongues%20for%20spitting%20venom%20never%20lack%2C%0AThere%27s%20nothing%20here%20below%20they%27ll%20not%20attack.">Page</a> (1909)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Many a tongue is ready to spread slander, <br>
And nothing in this world is proof against it. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/eightplaysbymoli00moli/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22many+a+tongue%22">Bishop</a> (1957)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Venom is what their tongues will never lack, <br>
And nothing here below escapes attack.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/tartuffeotherpla0000moli_t9a5/page/316/mode/2up?q=%22venom+is+what%22">Frame</a> (1967)]   </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No -- slanderous tongues on every hand,<br>
All poisonous talk.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Tartuffe/B4oHEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20slanderous%22">Bolt</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nothing in this world can deflect the venom of malice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/tartuffeandmisan0000moli/page/104/mode/2up?q=%22nothing+in+this+world+can%22">Steiner</a> (2008)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Wicked tongues will always have poison to spread about.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Tartuffe/HZ78DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22wicked%20tongues%22">Campbell</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Billings, Josh -- Josh Billings&#8217; Farmer&#8217;s Allminax, 1870-06 (1870 ed.)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old dorgs nuss their grudges, but yung purps fite, and then frolick. [Old dogs nurse their grudges, but young pups fight and then frolic.] This aphorism shows up again in Everybody&#8217;s Friend, Or; Josh Billing&#8217;s Encyclopedia and Proverbial Philosophy of Wit and Humor, ch. 156 &#8220;Affurisms: Embers on the Harth&#8221; (1874), with slight spelling changes: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old dorgs nuss their grudges, but yung purps fite, and then frolick.</p>
<p>[Old dogs nurse their grudges, but young pups fight and then frolic.]</p>
<br><b>Josh Billings</b> (1818-1885) American humorist, aphorist [pseud. of Henry Wheeler Shaw]<br><i>Josh Billings&#8217; Farmer&#8217;s Allminax</i>, 1870-06 (1870 ed.) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/40191/pg40191-images.html#:~:text=chuck%20him%20in-,yure%20basket.,-JULY%20MONOGRAPH." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This aphorism <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Everybody_s_Friend_Or_Josh_Billing_s_Enc/7rA8AAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=yung%20pupps">shows up again</a> in <i>Everybody's Friend, Or; Josh Billing's Encyclopedia and Proverbial Philosophy of Wit and Humor</i>, ch. 156 "Affurisms: Embers on the Harth" (1874), with slight spelling changes:<br><br>

<blockquote>Old dorgs nuss their grudges, but yung pupps fight and then frolik.<br>
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		<title>Dante Alighieri -- The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia], Book 1 &#8220;Inferno,&#8221; Canto 31, l.  55ff (31.55) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For when the faculty of intellect is joined with brute force and with evil will, no man can win against such an alliance. [Ché dove l&#8217;argomento de la mente s&#8217;aggiugne al mal volere e a la possa, nessun riparo vi può far la gente.] Why Nature no longer allows human-like giants, while still producing whales [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_73693" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-73693" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-scaled.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-300x240.jpg" alt="dore inferno 31 giants titans 1890" width="300" height="240" class="size-medium wp-image-73693" srcset="https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-300x240.jpg 300w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-1024x819.jpg 1024w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-768x614.jpg 768w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-1536x1228.jpg 1536w, https://wist.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Dore-Inferno-31-Giants-Titans-1890-2048x1637.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-73693" class="wp-caption-text">Dore &#8211; Inferno, Canto 31 &#8211; Giants (Titans) (1890)</figcaption></figure>
<p>For when the faculty of intellect<br />
<span class="tab">is joined with brute force and with evil will,<br />
<span class="tab">no man can win against such an alliance.</p>
<p><em>[Ché dove l&#8217;argomento de la mente<br />
<span class="tab">s&#8217;aggiugne al mal volere e a la possa,<br />
<span class="tab">nessun riparo vi può far la gente.]</span></span></em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Dante Alighieri</b> (1265-1321) Italian poet<br><i>The Divine Comedy [Divina Commedia]</i>, Book 1 <i>&#8220;Inferno,&#8221;</i> Canto 31, l.  55ff (31.55) (1309) [tr. Musa (1971)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/dantesinferno00dant/page/256/mode/2up?q=%22faculty+of+intellect%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Why Nature no longer allows human-like giants, while still producing whales and elephants.<br><br>

(<a href="https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Divina_Commedia/Inferno/Canto_XXXI#:~:text=ch%C3%A9%20dove%20l%27argomento%20de%20la%20mente%0As%27aggiugne%20al%20mal%20volere%20e%20a%20la%20possa%2C%0Anessun%20riparo%20vi%20pu%C3%B2%20far%20la%20gente.">Source (Italian)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For where the mind to bad Intention's join'd,<br>
And with a Pow'r what's ill design'd to act,<br>
None can himself from such a force defend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno_of_Dante_Translated/1ARcAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bad%20intention%22">Rogers</a> (1782), l. 49ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But not the forest tribes, nor finny race, <br>
With equal rage their native walks deface,<br>
<span class="tab">As he whose deadly arm by Reason's light<br>
Directed falls, and mocks the warding hand; <br>
Conspiring realms in vain his pow'r withstand,<br>
<span class="tab">In vain embattled hosts defend their right.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinacommediaof01dantuoft/page/356/mode/2up?q=%22But+not+the+foreft+tribes%22">Boyd</a> (1802), st. 9] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For when brute force<br>
And evil will are back’d with subtlety,<br>
Resistance none avails.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8789/8789-h/8789-h.htm#cantoI.31:~:text=for%20when%20brute%20force%0AAnd%20evil%20will%20are%20back%E2%80%99d%20with%20subtlety%2C%0AResistance%20none%20avails.">Cary</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For discourse of mind,<br>
Wedded with power and inbred lust of wrong, <br>
Had left nor help nor rescue for mankind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali02daymgoog/page/n208/mode/2up?q=%22for+discourse+of+mind.%22">Dayman</a> (1843)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where [the instrument] of [the] mind is joined to evil will and potency, men can make no defence against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Inferno/WqpEAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22evil%20will%20and%20potency%22">Carlyle</a> (1849)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when a reasoning and a subtle mind<br>
<span class="tab">Is joined, besides, to evil will and power,<br>
<span class="tab">Who can resist? -- for all defence must cower.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedyofdanteal00dant/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22subtle+mind%22">Bannerman</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when the reasoning faculty combines<br>
<span class="tab">With evil will and with destructive pow'r,<br>
<span class="tab">Then there remains no more defence for man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Translation_of_Dante_s_Inferno/dzvcz2MMLLMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22reasoning%20faculty%22">Johnston</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the argument of intellect ⁠<br>
<span class="tab">⁠Is added unto evil will and power,<br>
<span class="tab">⁠No rampart can the people make against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy_(Longfellow_1867)/Volume_1/Canto_31#:~:text=For%20where%20the,make%20against%20it">Longfellow</a> (1867)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the equipment of the mind is joined to illwill and to power, folk can make no rampart against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/cu31924060237603/page/n393/mode/2up?q=%22equipment+of+the+mind%22">Butler</a> (1885)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the assistance of the intellect <br>
<span class="tab">Is added unto evil will and power,<br>
<span class="tab">'Gainst it no refuge could mankind erect.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda00dantrich/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22assistance+of+the+intellect%22">Minchin</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the faculty of the mind is added to evil will and to power, the human race can make no defense against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1995/1995-h/1995-h.htm#cantoI.XXXI:~:text=for%20where%20the%20faculty%20of%20the%20mind%20is%20added%20to%20evil%20will%20and%20to%20power%2C%20the%20human%20race%20can%20make%20no%20defense%20against%20it.">Norton</a> (1892)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the force of intellect is joined to evil will, and power to do such will, mankind is helpless to find resource against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/comedydantealig00sullgoog/page/n176/mode/2up?q=%22force+of+intellect%22">Sullivan</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For, where the equipment and the use of reason<br>
<span class="tab">Are joined to ill intent and power of action,<br>
<span class="tab">No sort of refuge can folk make against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernodanteali00grifgoog/page/n218/mode/2up?q=%22use+of+reason%22">Griffith</a> (1908)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the equipment of the mind is joined to evil will and to power men can make no defence against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy_of_Dante_Alighieri/c8ZKnRirTNUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22equipment%20of%20the%20mind%22">Sinclair</a> (1939)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For if with the mind's instrument unite <br>
<span class="tab">Power and an evil purpose both at once, <br>
<span class="tab">Men have no means against such force to fight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/portabledante00dant/page/166/mode/2up?q=%22mind%27s+instrument%22">Binyon</a> (1943)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the instrument of thinking mind <br>
<span class="tab">Is joined to strength and malice, man’s defence <br>
<span class="tab">Cannot avail to meet those powers combined.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.247916/page/n267/mode/2up?q=%22instrument+of+thinking%22">Sayers</a> (1949)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the instrument of intelligence <br>
<span class="tab">is added to brute power and evil will, <br>
<span class="tab">mankind is powerless in its own defense.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoverserend00dantrich/page/258/mode/2up?q=%22where+the+instrument%22">Ciardi</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the instrument of the mind is added to an evil will and to great power, men can make no defense against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant/page/n341/mode/2up?q=%22instrument+of+the+mind%22">Singleton</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the mind’s acutest reasoning <br>
<span class="tab">is joined to evil will and evil power, <br>
<span class="tab">there human beings can’t defend themselves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/lccn_83048678/page/284/mode/2up?q=%22acutest+reasoning%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For, where the argument of reason is <br>
Joined with an evil will and potency, <br>
There is no possible defence for man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedy0000dant/page/178/mode/2up?q=%22argument+of+reason%22">Sisson</a> (1981)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The power of the mind, along with that <br>
<span class="tab">Of immense strength, upon an evil will <br>
<span class="tab">Then people will have no defense from it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernoofdantene00dant/page/266/mode/2up?q=%22power+of+the+mind%22">Pinsky</a> (1994), l. 52ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where sharpness of mind is joined to evil will and power, there is no defence people can make against them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/divinecomedyofda0001dant_u1l7/page/484/mode/2up?q=%22sharpness+of+mind%22">Durling</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Where the instrument of mind is joined to ill will and power, men have no defence against it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf29to34.php#anchor_Toc64099415:~:text=since%20where%20the%20instrument%20of%20mind%20is%20joined%20to%20ill%20will%20and%20power%2C%20men%20have%20no%20defence%20against%20it.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when the powers of working intellect <br>
<span class="tab">are wed to strength and absolute illwill, <br>
<span class="tab">then humans cannot find a place to hide.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/infernovolume1of0000dant/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22working+intellect%22">Kirkpatrick</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when the power of thought<br>
<span class="tab">is coupled with ill will and naked force<br>
<span class="tab">there is no refuge from it for mankind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dante.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/dante/campuscgi/mpb/GetCantoSection.pl?LANG=2&INP_POEM=Inf&INP_SECT=31&INP_START=55&INP_LEN=3">Hollander/Hollander</a> (2007)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when the thinking powers of human brains<br>
<span class="tab">Are tools of malicious will and enormous strength,<br>
<span class="tab">Smaller creatures like men have no defense.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Divine_Comedy/WZyBj-s9PfsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22malicious%20will%22">Raffel</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For only when ill will and massive strength <br>
Are joined with mental power does it arise<br>
That the invincible is born.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/inferno0000dant_y2l4/page/166/mode/2up?q=%22massive+strength%22">James</a> (2013), l. 58ff]</blockquote><br>

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