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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  43 (7.43) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best you can do is grant my demand, Your second-best course to refuse it off-hand; I welcome assent and denial excuse &#8212; But, Cinna, you neither consent nor refuse. [Primum est ut praestes, si quid te, Cinna, rogabo; illud deinde sequens, ut cito, Cinna, neges. Diligo praestantem; no odi, Cinna, negantem: sed tu nec [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best you can do is grant my demand,<br />
<span class="tab">Your second-best course to refuse it off-hand;<br />
I welcome assent and denial excuse &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">But, Cinna, you neither consent nor refuse.</p>
<p><em>[Primum est ut praestes, si quid te, Cinna, rogabo;<br />
illud deinde sequens, ut cito, Cinna, neges.<br />
Diligo praestantem; no odi, Cinna, negantem:<br />
sed tu nec praestas nec cito, Cinna, negas.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  43 (7.43) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22best+you+can+do%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Epigrams_of_Martial/n3lfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Primum%20est%20ut%20praestes%22&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover">Source (Latin)</a>. Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>My iust demands soone graunt or soone deny,<br>
Th' one friendship showes, and th' other curtesie.<br>
But who nor soon doth graunt, nor soone say noe,<br>
Doth not true friendship, nor good manners know.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22my+iust+demands%22">Davison</a> (1602)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The first love, Cinna, is to grant what I<br>
<span class="tab">Request; the second quickly to deny.<br>
I love the one, the other hate not I;<br>
<span class="tab">But thou nor grant'st, nor quickly dost deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.87?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 7.42]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The kindest thing of all is to comply;<br>
<span class="tab">The next kind thing is quickly to deny:<br>
I love performance; nor denial hate:<br>
<span class="tab">Your "Shall I, Shall I?" is the cursed state.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA87&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22kindest%20thing%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To grant must doubtless be the primal boon:<br>
<span class="tab">The next, my Cinna, to deny me soon.<br>
I love the former, nor the latter hate:<br>
<span class="tab">But thou not grantest, and deniest late.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA235&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22to%20deny%20me%20soon%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 53]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The greatest favour that you can do me, Cinna, if I ask anything of you, is to give it me; the next, Cinna, to refuse it at once. I love one who gives, Cinna; I do not hate one who refuses; but you, Cinna, neither give nor refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22greatest%20favour%20that%20you%20can%20do%20me%22&pg=PA324&printsec=frontcover">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, grant me my request:<br>
(I warmly hope you'll choose to!)<br>
Or do what I think second best,<br>
<span class="tab">In haste refuse to.<br>
Patrons I esteem, nor hate<br>
The man I can't bamboozle:<br>
But you give naught, yet make me wait<br>
<span class="tab">A slow refusal.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22grant+me+my+request%22">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The first thing is that you should hand it over if I ask anything of you, Cinna; the next thing after that, Cinna, is that you should refuse quickly. I like a man who hands over; I do not hate, Cinna, a man who refuses; but you neither hand over, nor do you, Cinna, quickly refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20first%20thing%22&pg=PA453&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis best to grant me, Cinna, what I crave;<br>
<span class="tab">And next best, Cinna, is refusal straight.<br>
Givers I like: refusal I can brave;<br>
<span class="tab">But you don't give -- you only hesitate!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=%27Tis%20best%20to%20grant,give%E2%80%94you%20only%20hesitate!">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Cinna, the best thing would be if you lent<br>
Me anything I asked for. The next best<br>
<span class="tab">Would be for you to say no then and there.<br>
I like good givers, and I don't resent<br>
A straight refusal of a small request.<br>
<span class="tab">It's ditherers like you that I can't bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/94/mode/2up?q=cinna">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Best is that you give me anything I ask, Cinna; next best, Cinna, is that you refuse promptly. I like a man who gives; I don't hate a man who refuses, Cinna. But you, Cinna, neither give nor promptly refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, to give me what I ask is best;<br>
next best is to refuse without delay.<br>
I love a giver, don't resent refusers.<br>
<span class="tab">You neither give nor tell me no straightway.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22ask+is+best%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>


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		<title>Rickover, Hyman -- Speech (1954-03-16), &#8220;Administering a Large Military Development Project,&#8221; US Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Avoid over-coordination. We have all observed months-long delays caused by an effort to bring all activities into complete agreement with a proposed policy or procedure. While the coordinating machinery is slowly grinding away, the original purpose is often lost. The essence of the proposals is being worn down as the persons most concerned impatiently await [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid over-coordination. We have all observed months-long delays caused by an effort to bring all activities into complete agreement with a proposed policy or procedure. While the coordinating machinery is slowly grinding away, the original purpose is often lost. The essence of the proposals is being worn down as the persons most concerned impatiently await the decision. The process has been aptly called <em>coordinating to death</em>.</p>
<br><b>Hyman Rickover</b> (1900-1986) Polish-American naval engineer, admiral [b. Chaim Gdala Rykower]<br>Speech (1954-03-16), &#8220;Administering a Large Military Development Project,&#8221; US Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California 
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