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		<title>Lincoln, Abraham -- Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily dishonest. I say vague, because when we consider to what extent confidence and honors are reposed in and conferred upon lawyers by the people, it appears improbable that their impression of dishonesty is very distinct and vivid. Yet the impression is common, almost universal. Let [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily dishonest. I say vague, because when we consider to what extent confidence and honors are reposed in and conferred upon lawyers by the people, it appears improbable that their impression of dishonesty is very distinct and vivid. Yet the impression is common, almost universal. Let no young man choosing the law for a calling for a moment yield to the popular belief &#8212; resolve to be honest at all events; and if in your own judgment you cannot be an honest lawyer, resolve to be honest without being a lawyer. Choose some other occupation, rather than one in the choosing of which you do, in advance, consent to be a knave.</p>
<br><b>Abraham Lincoln</b> (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)<br>Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:134?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=There%20is%20a,be%20a%20knave." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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No lecture of the sort given by Lincoln has been recorded. The date was assigned by Nicolay and Hay, with nothing concrete to contradict it.  The lecture notes might well have been written <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:134?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=the%20legal%20profession-,several%20years%20later,-.">several years later</a>. 
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		<title>Lincoln, Abraham -- Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a general rule never take your whole fee in advance, nor any more than a small retainer. When fully paid beforehand, you are more than a common mortal if you can feel the same interest in the case, as if something was still in prospect for you, as well as for your client. And [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a general rule never take your whole fee in advance, nor any more than a small retainer. When fully paid beforehand, you are more than a common mortal if you can feel the same interest in the case, as if something was still in prospect for you, as well as for your client. And when you lack interest in the case the job will very likely lack skill and diligence in the performance.</p>
<br><b>Abraham Lincoln</b> (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)<br>Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:134?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=As%20a%20general,faithfully%20and%20well." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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No lecture of the sort given by Lincoln has been recorded. The date was assigned by Nicolay and Hay, with nothing concrete to contradict it.  The lecture notes might well have been written <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:134?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=the%20legal%20profession-,several%20years%20later,-.">several years later</a>. 
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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- Merchant of Venice, Act 3, sc. 2, l.  77ff (3.2.77-79) (1597)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BASSANIO: In law, what plea so tainted and corrupt But, being seasoned with a gracious voice, Obscures the show of evil?]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">BASSANIO: In law, what plea so tainted and corrupt<br />
But, being seasoned with a gracious voice,<br />
Obscures the show of evil?</p>
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<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Merchant of Venice</i>, Act 3, sc. 2, l.  77ff (3.2.77-79) (1597) 
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		<title>Franklin, Benjamin -- Poor Richard (1737 ed.)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don’t misinform your Doctor nor your Lawyer.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t misinform your Doctor nor your Lawyer.</p>
<br><b>Benjamin Franklin</b> (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist<br><i>Poor Richard</i> (1737 ed.) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-02-02-0028#:~:text=Don%E2%80%99t%20misinform%20your%20Doctor%20nor%20your%20Lawyer." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Franklin, Benjamin -- Poor Richard (1737 ed.)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainlie these things agree, The Priest, the Lawyer, and Death all three: Death takes both the weak and the strong. The lawyer takes from both right and wrong, And the priest from living and dead has his Fee.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainlie these things agree,<br />
The Priest, the Lawyer, and Death all three:<br />
Death takes both the weak and the strong.<br />
The lawyer takes from both right and wrong,<br />
And the priest from living and dead has his Fee.</p>
<br><b>Benjamin Franklin</b> (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist<br><i>Poor Richard</i> (1737 ed.) 
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		<title>Porter, Katherine Anne -- Ship of Fools, Part 2 [Hansen] (1962)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Civilization, let me tell you what it is. First the soldier, then the merchant, then the priest, then the lawyer. The merchant hires the soldier and priest to conquer the country for him. First the soldier, he is a murderer; then the priest, he is a liar; then the merchant, he is a thief; and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civilization, let me tell you what it is. First the soldier, then the merchant, then the priest, then the lawyer. The merchant hires the soldier and priest to conquer the country for him. First the soldier, he is a murderer; then the priest, he is a liar; then the merchant, he is a thief; and they all bring in the lawyer to make their laws and defend their deeds, and there you have your civilization! </p>
<br><b>Katherine Anne Porter</b> (1890-1980) American journalist, essayist, author, political activist [b. Callie Russell Porter]<br><i>Ship of Fools</i>, Part 2 [Hansen] (1962) 
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  2, epigram  30 (2.30) (AD 86) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;Neither a Borrower&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had hardly thought by asking For five hundred I&#8217;d be tasking The kindness of a rich old friend like you. &#8220;Practice law,&#8221; you said, &#8220;it&#8217;s healthy, And it soon will make you wealthy.&#8221; Now, Gaius, tell me &#8220;Yes,&#8221; not what to do. [Mutua viginti sestertia forte rogabam, Quae vel donanti non grave munus erat. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hardly thought by asking<br />
For five hundred I&#8217;d be tasking<br />
<span class="tab">The kindness of a rich old friend like you.<br />
&#8220;Practice law,&#8221; you said, &#8220;it&#8217;s healthy,<br />
And it soon will make you wealthy.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">Now, Gaius, tell me &#8220;Yes,&#8221; not what to do.</p>
<p><em>[Mutua viginti sestertia forte rogabam,<br />
Quae vel donanti non grave munus erat.<br />
Quippe rogabatur felixque vetusque sodalis<br />
Et cuius laxas arca flagellat opes.<br />
Is mihi &#8216;Dives eris, si causas egeris&#8217; inquit.<br />
Quod peto da, Gai: non peto consilium.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  30 (2.30) (AD 86) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;Neither a Borrower&#8221;] 
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"To Caius/Gaius." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:2.30">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When twenty pounds I'd borrow of a friend,<br>
<span class="tab">One, who might give me more, as well as lend;<br>
Blest in his fortune; my companion old;<br>
<span class="tab">Whose coffers, and whose purse-strings, crack with gold.<br>
"Turn lawyer, and you'll soon grow rich," he cries:<br>
<span class="tab">Give me what I ask, my friend: -- 'tis not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22twenty%20pounds%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of sesterces a score I crave in loan,<br>
<span class="tab">Which scarce a boon would honest bounty own.<br>
A fortune-blest old intimate I urge,<br>
<span class="tab">Whose gen'rous wealth tyrannic coffers scourge.<br>
"Go, ply the bar: be affluent in a trice."<br>
<span class="tab">I ask your aid, my Cay, not your advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22sesterces%20a%20score%20i%20crave%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 31]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked Caius to lend me twenty sestertia, a sum which could not weigh heavy on him, even if he had been asked to give and not to lend; for he was my old companion, and hd been fortunate in life; and his chest can scarcely press down his overflowing riches. He replied to me, "You will become wealthy if you will take to pleading causes." Caius! give me what I ask for, I do not ask for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/120/mode/2up?q=%22ep.+xxx%22">Amos</a> (1858), "Unseasonable Advice"; ch. 3, ep. 89]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked, by chance, a loan of twenty thousand sesterces, which would have been no serious matter even as a present. He whom I asked was an old acquaintance in good circumstances, whose money-chest finds difficulty in imprisoning his overflowing hoards. "You will enrich yourself, was his reply, "if you will go to the bar." Give me, Caius, what I ask: I do not ask advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=I%20asked%2C%20by,not%20ask%20advice.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked, as it chanced, the loan of twenty thousand sesterces, which, even to a give, would have been no burden. The fact was I asked them of a well-to-do and old friend, and one whose money-chest keeps in control o'erflowing wealth. His answer was, "You will be rich if you plead causes." Give me what I ask, Gaius: I don't ask for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22twenty%20thousand%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I chanced to ask a loan -- a hundred, merely;<br>
<span class="tab">E'en as a gift that should not task severely<br>
A wealthy friend, and so I asked him, knowing<br>
<span class="tab">His pockets bulge with cash over-flowing.<br>
"Go to the Bar," says he, "get rich by pleading" --<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis cash, not counsel, Gaius, that I'm needing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22to+gaius%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked you twenty thousand as a loan,<br>
<span class="tab">A trifle, had I craved it for my own,<br>
Such claim might ancient friendship well afford<br>
<span class="tab">On one whose coffers chid their bursting hoard.<br>
"Plead and you'll make a fortune in a trice."<br>
<span class="tab">I want your money, Gaius, not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ii.%20xxx%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 79]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I asked a rich old friend of mine<br>
for a loan of twenty thousand:<br>
No trouble at all for him to give it to me,<br>
he was so loaded. But in answer to my request<br>
he said, "You know what? You want to make money?<br>
Become a lawyer." Look, Gaius:<br>
I asked you for money, not for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22rich+old+friend%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I happened to ask a Ioan of twenty thousand sesterces, no burdensome present even as a gift. He of whom I asked it was a faithful old friend, he whose coffer whips up his ample wealth. Says he to me: "You'll be a rich man if you plead cases." Give me what I ask, Gaius; I'm not asking advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=I%20happened%20to%20ask%20a%20Ioan%20of%20twenty%20thousand%20sesterces%2C%20no%20burdensome%20present%20even%20as%20a%20gift.%20He%20of%20whom%20I%20asked%20it%20was%20a%20faithful%20old%20friend%2C%20e">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I need a loan of twenty grand.<br>
<span class="tab">Can you lend a helping hand?<br>
We're friends, it's not a huge amount<br>
<span class="tab">Against your massive bank account.<br>
But your reply? "Go practice law,<br>
<span class="tab">it's easy to get rich, ha-ha!"<br>
So here's a thought on which to chew:<br>
<span class="tab">No job advice I asked from you.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I chanced to seek a loan of twenty thousand --<br>
<span class="tab">which one could give away and not think twice.<br>
The man I asked, a trusted longtime friend,<br>
<span class="tab">whose strongbox whips up riches in a trice,<br>
said, "Be a lawyer. You'll make piles of cash."<br>
<span class="tab">I asked for money, Gaius, not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22twenty+thousand%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>White, Ken -- &#8220;Fault Lines&#8221; blog, Mimeslaw.com (8 Jun 2016)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite what Hollywood would lead you to believe, we criminal defense attorneys do not advocate lenient sentences for all wrongdoers as a matter of policy. [&#8230;] Our role is to stand beside our clients, no matter who they are or what they did, and be their advocates, the one person required to plead their case [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite what Hollywood would lead you to believe, we criminal defense attorneys do not advocate lenient sentences for all wrongdoers as a matter of policy.  [&#8230;] Our role is to stand beside our clients, no matter who they are or what they did, and be their advocates, the one person required to plead their case and argue their interests. This is the closest our society comes to grace or humility.  It&#8217;s grace because we give this support to defendants whether they deserve it by any objective measure, and it&#8217;s humility because we know the system is so capable of grave error in accusing and punishing. </p>
<br><b>Ken White</b> (b. c. 1969) American constitutional and criminal attorney, prosecutor, blogger<br>&#8220;Fault Lines&#8221; blog, Mimeslaw.com (8 Jun 2016) 
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		<title>Marshall, Thurgood -- Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668 (1984) [Dissenting]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every defendant is entitled to a trial in which his interests are vigorously and conscientiously advocated by an able lawyer. A proceeding in which the defendant does not receive meaningful assistance in meeting the forces of the state does not, in my opinion, constitute due process.</p>
<br><b>Thurgood Marshall</b> (1908-1993) American lawyer, US Supreme Court Justice (1967-1991)<br><i>Strickland v. Washington</i>, 466 U.S. 668 (1984) [Dissenting] 
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		<title>Lincoln, Abraham -- Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser &#8212; in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough. No lecture of the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser &#8212; in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer  has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough.</p>
<br><b>Abraham Lincoln</b> (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)<br>Speech (1850), Notes for a Law Lecture (fragment) 
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No lecture of the sort given by Lincoln has been recorded. The date was assigned by Niclay and Hay, with nothing concrete to contradict it.  The lecture notes might well have been written <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:134?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=the%20legal%20profession-,several%20years%20later,-.">several years later</a>. 
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		<title>Lincoln, Abraham -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must remember that some things that are legally right are not morally right. Remark to potential client (1840s?), refusing his case involving a $600 claim against a widow with six children. In F. Brown, The Every-Day Life of Abraham Lincoln, 2.6 (1887).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must remember that some things that are <i>legally</i> right are not <i>morally</i> right.</p>
<br><b>Abraham Lincoln</b> (1809-1865) American lawyer, politician, US President (1861-65)<br>(Attributed) 
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Remark to potential client (1840s?), refusing his case involving a $600 claim against a widow with six children.  In F. Brown, <i>The Every-Day Life of Abraham Lincoln</i>, 2.6 (1887).
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		<title>Franklin, Benjamin -- Poor Richard (1742 ed.)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest Men often go to Law for their Right; when Wise Men would sit down with the Wrong, supposing the first Loss least. In some Countries the Course of the Courts is so tedious, and the Expence so high, that the Remedy, <em>Justice</em>, is worse than, <em>Injustice</em>, the Disease. In my Travels I once saw a Sign call’d <em>The Two Men at Law</em>; One of them was painted on one Side, in a melancholy Posture, all in Rags, with this Scroll, <em>I have lost my Cause</em>. The other was drawn capering for Joy, on the other Side, with these Words, <em>I have gain’d my Suit</em>; but he was stark naked.</p>
<br><b>Benjamin Franklin</b> (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist<br><i>Poor Richard</i> (1742 ed.) 
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		<title>Clarke, Susanna -- Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell (2004)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Robinson was a polished sort of person. He was so clean and healthy and pleased about everything that he positively shone &#8212; which is only to be expected in a fairy or an angel, but is somewhat disconcerting in an attorney.</p>
<br><b>Susanna Clarke</b> (b. 1949) British author<br><i>Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell</i> (2004) 
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		<title>Holmes, Oliver Wendell, Sr. -- Article (1857-11), &#8220;The Autocrat of the Breakfast-Table,&#8221; Atlantic Monthly</title>
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<br><b>Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.</b> (1809-1894) American poet, essayist, scholar<br>Article (1857-11), &#8220;The Autocrat of the Breakfast-Table,&#8221; <i>Atlantic Monthly</i> 
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Breakfast_table_Series/hORDAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22shape%20of%20a%20lawyer%22">Collected</a> in <i>The Autocrat of the Breakfast Table</i>, ch. 1 (1858).
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		<title>Herbert, George -- Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c. (compiler), #  290 (1640 ed.)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goe not for every griefe to the Physitian, nor for every quarrell to the Lawyer, nor for every thirst to the pot.</p>
<br><b>George Herbert</b> (1593-1633) Welsh priest, orator, poet.<br><i>Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c.</i> (compiler), #  290 (1640 ed.) 
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		<title>Herbert, George -- Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c. (compiler), #  105 (1640 ed.)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deceive not thy Physitian, Confessor, nor Lawyer.</p>
<br><b>George Herbert</b> (1593-1633) Welsh priest, orator, poet.<br><i>Jacula Prudentum, or Outlandish Proverbs, Sentences, &#038;c.</i> (compiler), #  105 (1640 ed.) 
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		<title>Hand, Learned -- Speech, Legal Aid Society of New York (1951-02-16)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we are to keep our democracy, there must be one commandment: Thou shalt not ration justice. On ensuring that accused persons did not lack for counsel needed for a fair trial.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are to keep our democracy, there must be one commandment: Thou shalt not ration justice.</p>
<br><b>Learned Hand</b> (1872-1961) American jurist<br>Speech, Legal Aid Society of New York (1951-02-16) 
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		<title>Ivins, Molly -- Essay (1997-06-10), Creators Syndicate column</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the bad-lawyer felony is the leading cause of the death penalty in Texas. The single most dangerous thing you can be in Texas is poor.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the bad-lawyer felony is the leading cause of the death penalty in Texas. The single most dangerous thing you can be in Texas is poor.</p>
<br><b>Molly Ivins</b> (1944-2007) American writer, political columnist [Mary Tyler Ivins]<br>Essay (1997-06-10), Creators Syndicate column 
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