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		<title>Shakespeare, William -- Richard II, Act 5, sc. 6, l.  39ff (5.6.39-40) (1595)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">KING HENRY: <span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Though I did wish him dead,<br />
I hate the murderer, love him murderèd.</p>
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<br><b>William Shakespeare</b> (1564-1616) English dramatist and poet<br><i>Richard II</i>, Act 5, sc. 6, l.  39ff (5.6.39-40) (1595) 
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		<description><![CDATA[ORESTES: I&#8217;ll go. I&#8217;ll start to do this dreadful thing, this horror. Yes, I will. If it&#8217;s the gods&#8217; will, I&#8217;ll do it. But I take no joy in it. [ὈΡΈΣΤΗΣ: ἔσειμι: δεινοῦ δ᾽ ἄρχομαι προβλήματος καὶ δεινὰ δράσω γε — εἰ θεοῖς δοκεῖ τάδε, ἔστω: πικρὸν δὲ χἡδὺ τἀγώνισμά μοι.] Orestes going to kill [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">ORESTES: I&#8217;ll go. I&#8217;ll start to do this dreadful thing, this horror. Yes, I will. If it&#8217;s the gods&#8217; will, I&#8217;ll do it. But I take no joy in it.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ὈΡΈΣΤΗΣ: ἔσειμι: δεινοῦ δ᾽ ἄρχομαι προβλήματος<br />
καὶ δεινὰ δράσω γε — εἰ θεοῖς δοκεῖ τάδε,<br />
ἔστω: πικρὸν δὲ χἡδὺ τἀγώνισμά μοι.]</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Electra</i> [Ἠλέκτρα], l.  985ff (c. 420 BC) [tr. Wilson (2016)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Greek_Plays/P5O5DAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22orestes%20i%27ll%20go%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Orestes going to kill his mother, Clytemnestra, who was, along with the already-killed Aegisthus, the murderer of his father, Agamemnon.<br><br>

Interestingly, earlier translations have him characterize the task as both bitter and sweet; later ones only speak of its bitterness.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0095%3Acard%3D957#:~:text=%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BC%CE%B9%3A%20%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%BF%E1%BF%A6%20%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CF%81%CF%87%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%B2%CE%BB%CE%AE%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82%0A%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%E1%BD%B0%20%CE%B4%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%83%CF%89%20%CE%B3%CE%B5%20%E2%80%94%20%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%20%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CF%82%20%CE%B4%CE%BF%CE%BA%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%20%CF%84%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B5%2C%0A%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%3A%20%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%81%E1%BD%B8%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CF%87%E1%BC%A1%CE%B4%E1%BD%BA%20%CF%84%E1%BC%80%CE%B3%CF%8E%CE%BD%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%AC%20%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%B9.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I go in. <br>
Tho' I am entering on a deed that's fraught <br>
With horror, I will execute the deed; <br>
Thus let it be, if thus the righteous Gods <br>
Ordain: altho' this conflict to my soul <br>
At the same time be bitter, and yet sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/294/mode/2up?q=%22Tho*+I+am+entering%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in; it is a dreadful task I am beginning and I will do dreadful things. If the gods approve, let it be; to me the contest is bitter and also sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0096%3Acard%3D957#:~:text=I%20will%20go%20in%3B%20it%20is%20a%20dreadful%20task%20I%20am%20beginning%20and%20I%20will%20do%20dreadful%20things.%20If%20the%20gods%20approve%2C%20let%20it%20be%3B%20to%20me%20the%20contest%20is%20bitter%20and%20also%20sweet.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will enter in; but I am beginning a dreadful attempt. Ay, and I shall do dreadful things; but if this seems fit to the Gods, let it be; but the contest is for me [at once] bitter and sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_tragedies_of_Euripides_literally_tr/xdkNAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20will%20enter%20in%22">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in. A horror I essay!<br>
Yea, horrors will achieve! If this please Heaven,<br>
So be it. Bitter strife, yet sweet, for me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Electra#:~:text=I%20will%20go,sweet%2C%20for%20me.">Way</a> (1896)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aye. So be it. -- I have ta'en<br>
A path of many terrors: and shall do<br>
Deeds horrible. 'Tis God will have it so. ...<br>
Is this the joy of battle, or wild woe?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Electra_(Murray)/Text#:~:text=Aye.%20So%20be%20it.%E2%80%94I%20have%20ta%27en">Murray</a> (1905)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I will go in; 'tis an awful task I undertake; an awful deed I have to do; still if it is Heaven's will, be it so; I loathe and yet I love the enterprise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completegreekdr02oate/page/96/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22i+will+go+in+tis%22">Coleridge</a> (1938 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fine. I am going inside. Terrible the deed I shall begin and frightening the deeds I shall accomplish. If this is liked by the gods then so be it. My battle is bitter, not sweet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/elektra-aka-electra/#:~:text=Fine.%20I%20am%20going%20inside.%20Terrible%20the%20deed%20I%20shall%20begin%20and%20frightening%20the%20deeds%20I%20shall%20accomplish.%20If%20this%20is%20liked%20by%20the%20gods%20then%20so%20be%20it.%20My%20battle%20is%20bitter%2C%20not%20sweet.">Theodoridis</a> (2006)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I’ll go in.<br>
I’m on the verge of a horrendous act,<br>
something truly dreadful. Well, so be it,<br>
if gods approve of this. And yet, for me<br>
the contest is not sweet at all, but bitter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/electrahtml.html#:~:text=I%E2%80%99ll%20go%20in.%0AI%E2%80%99m%20on%20the%20verge%20of%20a%20horrendous%20act%2C%0Asomething%20truly%20dreadful.%20Well%2C%20so%20be%20it%2C%0Aif%20gods%20approve%20of%20this.%20And%20yet%2C%20for%20me%0Athe%20contest%20is%20not%20sweet%20at%20all%2C%20but%20bitter.">Johnston</a> (2009)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Catullus -- Carmina #  85 [tr. Symons-Jeune (1923)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;I love and hate.&#8221; &#8220;At once?&#8221; you ask, &#8220;Now pray explain.&#8221; &#8220;I know not how; I feel &#8217;tis so, I&#8217;m rent in twain.&#8221; [Odi et amo. quare id faciam fortasse requiris nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: Tho&#8217; I hate, yet I love! &#8212; you&#8217;ll perhaps ask me, how? I can&#8217;t [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I love and hate.&#8221; &#8220;At once?&#8221; you ask, &#8220;Now pray explain.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I know not how; I feel &#8217;tis so, I&#8217;m rent in twain.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Odi et amo. quare id faciam fortasse requiris<br />
nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.]</em></p>
<br><b>Catullus</b> (c. 84 BC – c. 54 BC) Latin poet [Gaius Valerius Catullus]<br>Carmina #  85 [tr. Symons-Jeune (1923)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b311029&seq=55&q1=lxxxv" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-lat1:85">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Tho' I hate, yet I love! -- you'll perhaps ask me, how?<br>
I can't tell; but I'm vext, and feel that I do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t6154g976&seq=407&q1=%22you%27ll+perhaps%22">Nott</a> (1795), # 82 "On His Love"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love -- ask why -- I can't explain,<br>
I feel 'tis so, and feel it racking pain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_poems_of_Caius_Valerius_Catullus_tr/j10UAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hate%20and%20love%22">Lamb</a> (1821), "On His Own Love"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love -- wherefore I cannot tell,<br>
But by my tortures know the fact too well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175007358511&seq=53&q1=%22hate+and+love%22">T. Martin</a> (1861), "Love's Unreason"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have and love. "Why do I so?"<br>
<span class="tab">Perhaps you ask. I can't explain:<br>
The bitter fact I only know,<br>
<span class="tab">And torture racks my brain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t1hh7rq7f&seq=171&q1=lxxxv">Cranstoun</a> (1867), "On His Love"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Half I hate, half love. How so? one haply requireth.<br>
Nay, I know not; alas feel it, in agony groan.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18867/pg18867-images.html#:~:text=Half%20I%20hate,in%20agony%20groan.">Ellis</a> (1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hate I, and love I. Haps thou'lt ask me wherefore I do so.<br>
Wot I not, yet so I do feeling a torture of pain.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-eng1:85">Burton</a> (1893), "How the Poet Loves"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and I love. Why I do this, perhaps you ask. I know not, but I feel it happening and I am tortured.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0472.phi001.perseus-lat1:85">Smithers</a> (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love. Why I do so, perhaps you ask. I know not, but I feel it, and I am in torment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L006CatullusPoemsTibullusPervigiliumVeneris/page/n177/mode/2up?q=%22i+hate+and+love%22">Warre Cornish</a> (1904)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and yet I love; perhaps you ask how this can be. I do not know, but that it is so I feel too well, and live in torment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4hm54w4w&seq=225&q1=%22i+hate+and+yet%22">Stuttaford</a> (1912)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love. You question "How?" I lack <br>
An answer, but I feel it on the rack.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b267122&seq=151&q1=lxxxv">MacNaghten</a> (1925)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love, nor can the reason tell;<br>
But that I love and hate I know too well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106015467548&seq=120&q1=lxxxv">Wright</a> (1926), "Odi et Amo"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love.<br>
<span class="tab">And if you ask me why,<br>
I have no answer, but I discern,<br>
can feel, my senses rooted in eternal torture.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106001542577&seq=321&q1=lxxxv">Gregory</a> (1931)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate & love. And if you should ask how I can do both, <br>
I couldn't say; but I feel it, and it shivers me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poems_of_Catullus/y_HafujaJM4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hate%20%26%20love%22">C. Martin</a> (1979)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love. And why, perhaps you’ll ask.<br>
I don’t know: but I feel, and I’m tormented.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Catullus.php#anchor_Toc531846812:~:text=I%20hate%20and,and%20I%E2%80%99m%20tormented.">Kline</a> (2001), "Love-Hate"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and love. You wonder, perhaps, why I'd do that?<br>
<span class="tab">I have no idea. I just feel it. I am crucified.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/33522472/the-poems-of-catullus-a-bilingual-editionpdf">Green</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and I love. How do I do that, perhaps you ask?<br>
I don't know. But I feel it is happening and I am tormented.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Poetry_of_Gaius_Valerius_Catullus/85">Wikibooks</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and I love. Why I do this, perhaps you ask.<br>
I do not know, but I feel it being done and I am tormented.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Catullus_85">Wikisource</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate and I love: you might ask why I do this --<br>
I don’t know, but I see it happen and it’s killing me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2023/02/14/loving-and-self-loathing-a-valentine-3/#:~:text=I%20hate%20and%20I%20love%3A%20you%20might%20ask%20why%20I%20do%20this%E2%80%93%0AI%20don%E2%80%99t%20know%2C%20but%20I%20see%20it%20happen%20and%20it%E2%80%99s%20killing%20me.">@sententique</a> (2023)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hate, I love; I love, I hate.<br>
<span class="tab">But <i>why,</i> you ask again.<br>
I don't know if it's fault, or fate,<br>
<span class="tab">This such exquisite pain.<br>
[tr. Hill (2024)]</blockquote><br>
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