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		<title>Euripides -- Medea [Μήδεια], l. 1090ff (431 BC) [tr. @sentantiq (2020)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[CHORUS: I say that mortals who have no experience Of and have never had children Have a better chance for happiness Than those who bear them. ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: καί φημι βροτῶν οἵτινές εἰσιν πάμπαν ἄπειροι μηδ᾿ ἐφύτευσαν παῖδας προφέρειν εἰς εὐτυχίαν τῶν γειναμένων. By missing out on the burden of how to rear children properly, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">CHORUS: I say that mortals who have no experience<br />
Of and have never had children<br />
Have a better chance for happiness<br />
Than those who bear them.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">ΚΥΚΛΩΨ: καί φημι βροτῶν οἵτινές εἰσιν<br />
πάμπαν ἄπειροι μηδ᾿ ἐφύτευσαν<br />
παῖδας προφέρειν εἰς εὐτυχίαν<br />
τῶν γειναμένων.</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Medea</i> [Μήδεια], l. 1090ff (431 BC) [tr. @sentantiq (2020)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2020/11/11/no-one-righteous-without-fear-reading-aeschylus-eumenides-online-2/#:~:text=Euripides%2C%20Medea%201090,those%20who%20bear%20them." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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By missing out on the burden of how to rear children properly, and bequeathing them an adequate inheritance, all the while not knowing if the children will turn out to be good people or bad ones. Oh, yeah, and they might die prematurely.

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0113%3Acard%3D1081#:~:text=%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%AF%20%CF%86%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B9%20%CE%B2%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%84%E1%BF%B6%CE%BD%20%CE%BF%E1%BC%B5%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%AD%CF%82%20%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%0A%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BC%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%84%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CE%BC%CE%B7%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%90%CF%86%CF%8D%CF%84%CE%B5%CF%85%CF%83%CE%B1%CE%BD%0A%CF%80%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CE%B4%CE%B1%CF%82%20%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%AD%CF%81%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%20%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%CF%82%20%CE%B5%E1%BD%90%CF%84%CF%85%CF%87%CE%AF%CE%B1%CE%BD%0A%CF%84%E1%BF%B6%CE%BD%20%CE%B3%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">I maintain,<br>
They who in total inexperience live,<br>
Nor ever have been Parents, are more happy<br>
Than they to whom much progeny belongs.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/298/mode/2up?q=%22have+been+parents%22">Wodhull</a> (1782)]  </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This truth to all will I declare,<br>
The free, th' unwedded, those that claim<br>
No title to a father's name,<br>
Uncumber'd with that care,<br>
The paths of life with purer pleasure trace,<br>
Than those that own a numerous race,<br>
Their inexperience yet untaught<br>
Who have no child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacch%C3%A6_Ion_Alcestis_Medea_Hippolytu/L8tCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20a%20father%27s%20name%22">Potter</a> (1814)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And now I aver that of mortals those<br>
Who have never wed, or known children theirs,<br>
Than parents are happier far.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Medea_(Webster_1868)#:~:text=And%20now%20I%20aver%20that%20of%20mortals%20those%0AWho%20have%20never%20wed%2C%20or%20known%20children%20theirs%2C%0AThan%20parents%20are%20happier%20far.">Webster</a> (1868)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And amongst mortals I do assert that they who are wholly without experience and have never had children far surpass in happiness those who are parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/Medea#:~:text=And%20amongst%20mortals%20I%20do%20assert%20that%20they%20who%20are%20wholly%20without%20experience%20and%20have%20never%20had%20children%20far%20surpass%20in%20happiness%20those%20who%20are%20parents.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I say that those men who are entirely free from wedlock, and have not begotten children, surpass in happiness those who have families.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15081/pg15081-images.html#MEDEA:~:text=And%20I%20say%20that%20those%20men%20who%20are%20entirely%20free%20from%20wedlock%2C%20and%20have%20not%20begotten%20children%2C%20surpass%20in%20happiness%20those%20who%20have%20families">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now this I say — calm bliss, that ne'er<br>
<span class="tab">Knew love's wild fever of the blood,<br>
<span class="tab">The pains, the joys, of motherhood,<br>
Passeth all parents' joy-blent care.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Medea#:~:text=Now%20this%20I,joy%2Dblent%20care.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And thus my thought would speak: that she<br>
<span class="tab">Who ne'er hath borne a child nor known<br>
<span class="tab">Is nearer to felicity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35451/pg35451-images.html#:~:text=And%20thus%20my%20thought%20would%20speak%3A%20that%20she%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Who%20ne%27er%20hath%20borne%20a%20child%20nor%20known%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Is%20nearer%20to%20felicity">Murray</a> (1906)]  </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This I say, that those who have never<br>
Had children, who know nothing of it,<br>
In happiness have the advantage<br>
Over those who are parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-warner.ocr/page/96/mode/2up?q=1090">Warner</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And this is my opinion: those men or women<br>
Who never had children of their own at all<br>
Enjoy the advantage in good fortune<br>
Over those who are parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22this+is+my+opinion%22">Vellacott</a> (1963)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My conclusion is that people<br>
Who’ve never borne children<br>
Are much happier<br>
Than parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-podlecki_20220818/page/63/mode/2up?q=%22never+borne+children%22">Podlecki</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I say that those mortals who are utterly without experience of children and have never borne them have the advantage in good fortune over those who have. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0114%3Acard%3D1081#:~:text=I%20say%20that%20those%20mortals%20who%20are%20utterly%20without%20experience%20of%20children%20and%20have%20never%20borne%20them%20have%20the%20advantage%20in%20good%20fortune%20over%20those%20who%20have.">Kovacs</a> (Loeb) (1994); tr. <a href="https://pressbooks.bccampus.ca/greekromanmyth/chapter/medea/#euripides:~:text=I%20say%20that%20those%20mortals%20who%20are%20utterly%20without%20experience%20of%20children%20and%20have%20never%20borne%20them%20have%20the%20advantage%20in%20good%20fortune%20over%20those%20who%20have.">Kovacs / Zhang / Rogak</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I declare that, in the matter of happiness, those mortals who have produced children are less fortunate than those who have no experience at all of parenthood. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri_d3q9/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22and+i+declare+that%22">Davie</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So I have this view that those who have no children, children that they have given birth to and have raised, those people are much happier than those who do have any!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/medea/#:~:text=So%20I%20have%20this%20view%20that%20those%20who%20have%20no%20children%2C%20children%20that%20they%20have%20given%20birth%20to%20and%20have%20raised%2C%20those%20people%20are%20much%20happier%20than%20those%20who%20do%20have%20any!">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I have come to believe that human beings who <br>
have never had the experience of rearing <br>
children, are much better off than <br>
those of us who are parents. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/euripides-medea/#:~:text=I%20have%20come%20to%20believe%20that%20human%20beings%20who%C2%A01090%0Ahave%20never%20had%20the%20experience%20of%20rearing%C2%A0%0Achildren%2C%20are%20much%20better%20off%20than%C2%A0%0Athose%20of%20us%20who%20are%20parents.%C2%A0">Luschnig</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So I can claim that among human beings<br>
those who have no experience of children,<br>
who have never given birth to offspring,<br>
such people have far more happiness<br>
than those who have been parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250428122658/https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/medeahtml.html#:~:text=So%20I%20can%20claim%20that%20among%20human%20beings%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%20%5B1090%5D%0Athose%20who%20have%20no%20experience%20of%20children%2C%0Awho%20have%20never%20given%20birth%20to%20offspring%2C%0Asuch%20people%20have%20far%20more%20happiness%0Athan%20those%20who%20have%20been%20parents.">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And I say people who have no experience and no children are far more happy than those who have them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_Medea/kNBUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22and%20i%20say%20people%22">Ewans</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I do declare that those among mortals who are wholly without experience of children’s birth far surpass in happiness those who are parents.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-medea/#:~:text=I%20do%20declare%20that%20those%20among%20mortals%20who%20are%20wholly%20without%20experience%20of%20children%E2%80%99s%20birth%20far%20surpass%20in%20happiness%20those%20who%20are%20parents.">Coleridge / Ceragioli / Nagy / Hour25</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Erectheus [Ἐρεχθεύς], frag. 358 (TGF) (422 BC)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing is sweeter to children than a mother; love your mother, children, for no where is there a love as sweet as this. [οὐκ ἔστι μητρὸς οὐδὲν ἥδιον τέκνοις• ἐρᾶτε μητρός, παῖδες, ὡς οὐκ ἔστ’ ἔρως τοιοῦτος ἄλλος ὅστις ἡδίων ἐρᾶν.] Ironically, Erechthus, as King of Athens, sacrifices one or more of the daughters to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is sweeter to children than a mother; love your mother, children, for no where is there a love as sweet as this.</p>
<p>[οὐκ ἔστι μητρὸς οὐδὲν ἥδιον τέκνοις•<br />
ἐρᾶτε μητρός, παῖδες, ὡς οὐκ ἔστ’ ἔρως<br />
τοιοῦτος ἄλλος ὅστις ἡδίων ἐρᾶν.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Erectheus</i> [Ἐρεχθεύς], frag. 358 (TGF) (422 BC) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Dictionary_of_Classical_Greek_Quotatio/knv1DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22nothing%20is%20sweeter%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Ironically, Erechthus, as King of Athens, sacrifices one or more of the daughters to ensure the wartime survival of Athens.<br><br>

Nauck frag. <a href="https://archive.org/details/tragicorumgraeco00naucuoft/page/466/mode/2up?q=%22358+%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%BA+%CE%B5%CE%B0%CF%84%CE%B9+%CE%BC%CE%B7%CF%84%CF%81%CF%8C%CF%82%22&view=theater">358</a>, Barnes frag. 35, Musgrave frag. 8. (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>There's no affection can exceed what children<br>
Feel for their Mother; let this love, my Sons, <br>
Deep in your tender bosoms be implanted:<br>
For no attachments equal kindred ties.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi02wodhgoog/page/32/mode/2up?q=%22There%27s+no+affection%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Children have nothing sweeter than their mother.<br>
Love your mother children, there is no kind of love anywhere<br>
Sweeter than this one to love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2015/02/13/things-not-to-say-on-valentines-day-ancient-greek-and-roman-comments-on-women/#:~:text=Euripides%2C%20fr.%20358,%E1%BD%85%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82%20%E1%BC%A1%CE%B4%E1%BD%B7%CF%89%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%90%CF%81%E1%BE%B6%CE%BD.">@sentantiq</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Pasternak, Boris -- Doctor Zhivago [До́ктор Жива́го], Part 2, ch.  9 &#8220;Varykino,&#8221; sec.  3 [Yury] (1955) [tr. Hayward &#038; Harari (1958), US ed.]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is her glory. Any woman could say it. For every one of them, God is in her child. Mothers of great men must have been familiar with this feeling, but then, all women are mothers of great men &#8212; it isn&#8217;t their fault if life disappoints them later. Comparing all motherhood to that of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is her glory. Any woman could say it. For every one of them, God is in her child. Mothers of great men must have been familiar with this feeling, but then, all women are mothers of great men &#8212; it isn&#8217;t their fault if life disappoints them later.</p>
<br><b>Boris Pasternak</b> (1890–1960) Russian poet, novelist, and literary translator<br><i>Doctor Zhivago [До́ктор Жива́го]</i>, Part 2, ch.  9 &#8220;Varykino,&#8221; sec.  3 [Yury] (1955) [tr. Hayward &#038; Harari (1958), US ed.] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/doctorzhivago0000bori_v4u6/page/280/mode/2up?q=%22her+glory%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Comparing all motherhood to that of Mary toward Jesus. <br><br>

Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>He is her glory. Any woman could say it. For every one of them, God is in her child. Mothers of great men must have this feeling particularly, but then, at the beginning, all women are mothers of great men -- it isn’t their fault if life disappoints them later.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.91826/page/n259/mode/2up?q=%22mothers+of+great%22">Hayward & Harari</a> (1958), UK ed.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He is her glory. Every woman can say the same. Her god is in her child. Mothers of great people should be familiar with that feeling. But decidedly all mothers are mothers of great people, and it is not their fault that life later disappoints them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/doctorzhivago0000past_z8i1/page/334/mode/2up?q=%22mothers+of+great+people%22">Pevear & Volokhonsky</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a mother is a noble status, right? So why does it change when you put &#8220;unwed&#8221; or &#8220;welfare&#8221; in front of it? Quoted in Gloria Steinem, &#8220;The Verbal Karate of Florynce R. Kennedy, Esq.,&#8221; Ms. (Mar 1973).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a mother is a noble status, right? So why does it change when you put &#8220;unwed&#8221; or &#8220;welfare&#8221; in front of it?</p>
<br><b>Florynce "Flo" Kennedy</b> (1916–2000) American lawyer, feminist, civil rights activist<br>(Attributed) 
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Quoted in Gloria Steinem, "The Verbal Karate of Florynce R. Kennedy, Esq.," <em>Ms.</em> (Mar 1973).						</span>
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		<title>Johnson, Lyndon -- Speech (1963-07-09), Women&#8217;s Meeting, Washington, D.C.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I taught school in the early days of my manhood and I think I know something about mothers. There is a thread of aspiration that runs strong in them. It is the fiber that has formed the most unselfish creatures who inhabit this earth. They want three things only; for their children to be fed, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I taught school in the early days of my manhood and I think I know something about mothers. There is a thread of aspiration that runs strong in them. It is the fiber that has formed the most unselfish creatures who inhabit this earth. They want three things only; for their children to be fed, to be healthy, and to make the most of themselves.</p>
<br><b>Lyndon B. Johnson</b> (1908–1973) American politician, educator, US President (1963–69)<br>Speech (1963-07-09), Women&#8217;s Meeting, Washington, D.C. 
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		<title>Bovee, Christian Nestell -- Thoughts, Feelings, and Fancies (1857)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Next to God, we are indebted to women, first for life itself, and then for making it worth having.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next to God, we are indebted to women, first for life itself, and then for making it worth having.</p>
<br><b>Christian Nestell Bovee</b> (1820–1904) American epigrammatist, writer, publisher<br><i>Thoughts, Feelings, and Fancies</i> (1857) 
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