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		<title>Millay, Edna St. Vincent -- Poem (1920-11), &#8220;The Singing-Woman from the Wood&#8217;s Edge,&#8221; Vanity Fair, Vol. 14, No. 3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[With him for a sire and her for a dam, What should I be but just what I am? Collected in A Few Figs from Thistles (1921). &#8220;Singing-Woman&#8221; is usually hyphenated in collections, but in Vanity Fair it was rendered &#8220;Singin&#8217; Woman&#8221; and in the original publication in Figs as &#8220;Singingwoman&#8221;.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With him for a sire and her for a dam,<br />
What should I be but just what I am? </p>
<br><b>Edna St. Vincent Millay</b> (1892–1950) American poet<br>Poem (1920-11), &#8220;The Singing-Woman from the Wood&#8217;s Edge,&#8221; <i>Vanity Fair</i>, Vol. 14, No. 3 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/sim_vanity-fair_1920-11_15_3/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22her+for+a+dam%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/AFewFigsFromThistles1921/page/n21/mode/2up?q=%22him+for+a+sire%22">Collected</a> in <i>A Few Figs from Thistles</i> (1921). <br><br>

"Singing-Woman" is usually hyphenated in collections, but in <i>Vanity Fair</i> it was rendered "Singin' Woman" and in the original publication in <i>Figs</i> as "Singingwoman".						</span>
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		<title>Homer -- The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  2, l. 276ff (2.276) [Athena to Telemachus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Worsley (1861), st. 37]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Few match their fathers. Any tongue can tell The more are worse: yea, almost none their sires excel. [παῦροι γάρ τοι παῖδες ὁμοῖοι πατρὶ πέλονται, οἱ πλέονες κακίους, παῦροι δέ τε πατρὸς ἀρείους.] (Source (Greek)). Other translations: For few, that rightly bred on both sides stand, Are like their parents, many that are worse, And [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few match their fathers. Any tongue can tell<br />
The more are worse: yea, almost none their sires excel.</p>
<p>[παῦροι γάρ τοι παῖδες ὁμοῖοι πατρὶ πέλονται,<br />
οἱ πλέονες κακίους, παῦροι δέ τε πατρὸς ἀρείους.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Odyssey</i> [Ὀδύσσεια], Book  2, l. 276ff (2.276) [Athena to Telemachus] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Worsley (1861), st. 37] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/7-Eh5oFk6msC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22few%20match%20their%20fathers%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0135%3Abook%3D2%3Acard%3D267#:~:text=%CF%80%CE%B1%E1%BF%A6%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CE%B3%CE%AC%CF%81%20%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CF%80%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CE%B4%CE%B5%CF%82%20%E1%BD%81%CE%BC%CE%BF%E1%BF%96%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%84%CF%81%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%80%CE%AD%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9%2C">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For few, that rightly bred on both sides stand,<br>
Are like their parents, many that are worse,<br>
And most few better. Those then that the nurse<br>
Or mother call true-born yet are not so,<br>
Like worthy sires much less are like to grow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48895/48895-h/48895-h.htm#:~:text=For%20few%2C%20that%20rightly%20bred%20on%20both%20sides%20stand">Chapman</a> (1616)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons exceed or reach their father’s might,<br>
But commonly inferior they are.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/hobbes-the-english-works-vol-x-iliad-and-odyssey#:~:text=Few%20sons%20exceed,inferior%20they%20are.">Hobbes</a> (1675), l. 257ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons attain the praise<br>
Of their great sires, and most their sires disgrace.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Odyssey_(Pope)/Book_II#:~:text=few%20sons%20attain%20the%20praise">Pope</a> (1725)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons their fathers equal; most appear<br>
Degenerate; but we find, though rare, sometimes<br>
A son superior even to his Sire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24269/24269-h/24269-h.htm#:~:text=Few%20sons%20their,to%20his%20Sire.">Cowper</a> (1792)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few be the children equal to their father:<br>
The most be worse: and few be better men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Nearly_Literal_Translation_of_Homer_s/44YXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22few%20be%20the%20children%22">Bigge-Wither</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For few children, truly, are like their father; lo, the more part are worse, yet a few are better than the sire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1728/1728-h/1728-h.htm#:~:text=For%20few%20children%2C%20truly%2C%20are%20like%20their%20father%3B%20lo%2C%20the%20more%20part%20are%20worse%2C%20yet%20a%20few%20are%20better%20than%20the%20sire.">Butcher/Lang</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though not oft is the son meseemeth e'en such an one as his sire.<br>
Worser they be for the more part, and a few may be better forsooth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/VwcOAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA27&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22though%20not%20oft%22">Morris</a> (1887)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons are like their fathers; most are worse, few better than the father.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/KYlBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA23&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22few%20sons%20are%20like%20their%20fathers%22">Palmer</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sons are seldom as good men as their fathers; they are generally worse, not better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(Butler)/Book_II#:~:text=Sons%20are%20seldom%20as%20good%20men%20as%20their%20fathers%3B%20they%20are%20generally%20worse%2C%20not%20better">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons indeed are like their fathers; most are worse, few better than their fathers.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0136%3Abook%3D2%3Acard%3D267#:~:text=Few%20sons%20indeed%20are%20like%20their%20fathers%3B%20most%20are%20worse%2C%20few%20better%20than%20their%20fathers">Murray</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few are the sons who attain their fathers' stature: and very few surpass them. Most fall short in merit. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/qhQAywOYz10C?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22few%20are%20the%20sons%22">Lawrence</a> (1932)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons, indeed, are like their fathers. Generally they are worse; but just a few are better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/TheOdyssey/TheOdyssey_djvu.txt#:~:text=Few%20sons%2C%20indeed%2C%20are%20%0Alike%20their%20fathers.%20Generally%20they%20are%20worse%3B%20but%20just%20a%20few%20are%20%0Abetter.">Rieu</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The son is rare who measures with his father,<br>
and one in a thousand is a better man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/homer-the-odyssey-800-bce-robert-fitzgerald-tr-1961/page/n23/mode/2up?q=%22son+is+rare%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1961)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For few are the children who turn out to be equals of their fathers, <br>
and the greater number are worse; few are better than their father is. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/odysseyofhomermo0000rich/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22few+are+the+children%22">Lattimore</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Few sons are the equals of their fathers; <br>
most fall short, all too few surpass them. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/the-odyssey_202303/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22few+sons%22">Fagles</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You know, few sons turn out to be like their fathers;<br>
Most turn out worse, a few better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/thenortonantholo0000unse/page/308/mode/2up?q=%22Most+turn+out+worse%2C+a+few+better%22">Lombardo</a> (2000), ll. 300-301]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a truth that few sons are the equal of their fathers; most are inferior to their father, and few surpass them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/o8dLDQAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22it%20is%20a%20truth%22">Verity</a> (2016), l. 276]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And it is rare for sons to be like fathers;<br>
only a few are better, most are worse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/PpJYDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT145&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22rare%20for%20sons%22">Wilson</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Few are the sons who prove the equal of their fathers:<br>
most are worth less, hardly any provem themselves better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/YKNFDwAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22few%20are%20the%20sons%22">Green</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">It’s true few men<br>
are like their fathers. Most of them are worse.<br>
Only very few of them are better.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250319141850/http://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/homer/odyssey2html.html#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20true%20few%20men%0Aare%20like%20their%20fathers.%20Most%20of%20them%20are%20worse.%0AOnly%20very%20few%20of%20them%20are%20better.">Johnston</a> (2019), l. 373ff]</blockquote><br>
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