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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  1, l. 148ff (1.148-150) (29-19 BC) [tr. Dryden (1697)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As, when in tumults rise th&#8217; ignoble crowd, Mad are their motions, and their tongues are loud; And stones and brands in rattling volleys fly, And all the rustic arms that fury can supply. [Ac veluti magno in populo cum saepe coorta est seditio, saevitque animis ignobile volgus, iamque faces et saxa volant &#8212; furor [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As, when in tumults rise th&#8217; ignoble crowd,<br />
Mad are their motions, and their tongues are loud;<br />
And stones and brands in rattling volleys fly,<br />
And all the rustic arms that fury can supply.</p>
<p><em>[Ac veluti magno in populo cum saepe coorta est<br />
seditio, saevitque animis ignobile volgus,<br />
iamque faces et saxa volant &#8212; furor arma ministrat &#8230;.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  1, l. 148ff (1.148-150) (29-19 BC) [tr. Dryden (1697)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Works_of_Virgil_(Dryden)/Aeneid/Book_I#:~:text=As%2C%20when%20in%20tumults%20rise%20th%27%20ignoble%20crowd%2C%0AMad%20are%20their%20motions%2C%20and%20their%20tongues%20are%20loud%3B%0AAnd%20stones%20and%20brands%20in%20rattling%20volleys%20fly%2C%0AAnd%20all%20the%20rustic%20arms%20that%20fury%20can%20supply" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D142#:~:text=Ac%20veluti%20magno,furor%20arma%20ministrat">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>As oft when a great people mutinie<br>
Ignoble vulgar rage; stones, firebrands flye,<br>
Furie finds arms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=As%20oft%20when,their%20passion%20swaies.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>And as when a sedition has perchance  arisen among a mighty multitude, and the minds of the ignoble vulgar rage; now firebrands, now stones fly; fury supplies them with arms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22them%20with%20arms%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As when sedition oft has stirred<br>
In some great town the vulgar herd,<br>
And brands and stones already fly --<br>
For rage has weapons always nigh ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_1#:~:text=As%20when%20sedition%20oft%20has%20stirred%0AIn%20some%20great%20town%20the%20vulgar%20herd%2C%0AAnd%20brands%20and%20stones%20already%20fly%E2%80%94%0AFor%20rage%20has%20weapons%20always%20nigh">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">As when <br>
Sedition in a multitude has risen, <br>
And the base mob is raging with fierce minds, <br>
And stones and firebrands fly, and fury lends <br>
Arms to the populace ...<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n37/mode/2up?q=%22fury+lends%22">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 187ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Even as when oft in a throng of people strife hath risen, and the base multitude rage in their minds, and now brands and stones are flying; madness lends arms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#BOOK_FIRST:~:text=Even%20as%20when%20oft%20in%20a%20throng%20of%20people%20strife%20hath%20risen%2C%20and%20the%20base%20multitude%20rage%20in%20their%20minds%2C%20and%20now%20brands%20and%20stones%20are%20flying%3B%20madness%20lends%20arms">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And, like as mid a people great full often will arise<br>
Huge riot, and all the low-born herd to utter anger flies,<br>
And sticks and stones are in the air, and fury arms doth find ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#BOOK_I:~:text=And%2C%20like%20as,arms%20doth%20find">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As when in mighty multitudes bursts out<br>
Sedition, and the wrathful rabble rave;<br>
Rage finds them arms; stones, firebrands fly about ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=As%20when%20in%20mighty%20multitudes%20bursts%20out%0ASedition%2C%20and%20the%20wrathful%20rabble%20rave%3B%0ARage%20finds%20them%20arms%3B%20stones%2C%20firebrands%20fly%20about">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 21, l. 181ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As when, with not unwonted tumult, roars<br>
in some vast city a rebellious mob,<br>
and base-born passions in its bosom burn,<br>
till rocks and blazing torches fill the air<br>
(rage never lacks for arms) ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D1%3Acard%3D142#:~:text=As%20when%2C%20with%20not%20unwonted%20tumult%2C%20roars%0Ain%20some%20vast%20city%20a%20rebellious%20mob%2C%0Aand%20base%2Dborn%20passions%20in%20its%20bosom%20burn%2C%0Atill%20rocks%20and%20blazing%20torches%20fill%20the%20air%0A(rage%20never%20lacks%20for%20arms)">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And as, when oft-times in a great nation tumult has risen, the base rabble rage angrily, and now brands and stones fly, madness lending arms ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/L063NVirgilIEcloguesGeorgicsAeneid16/page/n261/mode/2up?q=%22madness+lending+arms%22">Fairclough</a> (1916)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sometimes, in a great nation, there are riots<br>
With the rabble out of hand, and firebrands fly<br>
And cobblestones; whatever they lay their hands on<br>
Is a weapon for their fury.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#BOOK_I:~:text=Sometimes%2C%20in%20a,for%20their%20fury%2C">Humphries</a> (1951)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Just as so often it happens, when a crowd collects, and violence<br>
Brews up, and the mass mind boils nastily over, and the next thing<br>
Firebrands and brickbats are flying (hysteria soon finds a missile) ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/16/mode/2up?q=hysteria">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And just as, often, when a crowd or people<br>
is rocked by a rebellion, and the rabble<br>
rage in their minds, and firebrands and stones<br>
fly fast -- for fury finds its weapons ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22fury+finds%22">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 209ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When rioting breaks out in a great city,<br>
And the rampaging rabble goes so far<br>
That stones fly, and incendiary brands --<br>
For anger can supply that kind of weapon ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid0000virg_e4b6/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22anger+can+supply%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As when disorder arises among the people of a great city and the common mob riuns riot, wild passion finds weapons for men's hands and torches and rocks start flying ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22wild+passion+finds%22">West</a> (1990)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As often, when rebellion breaks out in a great nation,<br>
and the common rabble rage with passion, and soon stones<br>
and fiery torches fly (frenzy supplying weapons) ....<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidI.php#anchor_Toc535054293:~:text=As%20often%2C%20when,frenzy%20supplying%20weapons)">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Riots will often break out in the crowded assembly<br>
When the rabble are roused. Torches and stones<br>
Are soon flying -- Fury always finds weapons.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essential_Aeneid/y8pgDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fury%20always%20finds%22">Lombardo</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Just as, all too often,<br>
some huge crowd is seized by a vast uprising,<br>
the rabble runs amok, all slaves to passion,<br>
rocks, firebrands flying. Rage finds them arms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22rage%20finds%20them%20arms%22">Fagles</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Just as riots often fester in great crowds when the common mob goes mad; rocks and firebrands fly, the weapons rage supplies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22riots%20often%20fester%22">Bartsch</a> (2021)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Steinbeck, John -- Essay (1960-06-01), &#8220;A Primer on the Thirties,&#8221; Esquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: &#8220;After the revolution even we will have more, won&#8217;t we, dear?&#8221; Then [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: &#8220;After the revolution even we will have more, won&#8217;t we, dear?&#8221; Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picnickers on her property.</p>
<p>I guess the trouble was that we didn&#8217;t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew &#8212; at least they claimed to be Communists &#8212; couldn&#8217;t have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves.</p>
<br><b>John Steinbeck</b> (1902-1968) American writer<br>Essay (1960-06-01), &#8220;A Primer on the Thirties,&#8221; <i>Esquire</i> 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200115200707/https://classic.esquire.com/article/1960/6/1/a-primer-on-the-30s#issue_toc:~:text=Except%20for%20the%20field%20organizers%20of,were%20too%20busy%20fighting%20among%20themselves." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Collected in <i><a href="https://archive.org/details/esquirebestoffor00newy/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22pretty+tough+monkeys%22">Esquire: The Best of Forty Years</a></i> (1973).<br><br>

A portion of this was paraphrased in Ronald Wright, <i><a href="https://archive.org/details/shorthistoryofpr0000wrig/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22socialism+never+took+root%22">A Short History of Progress</a></i>, ch. 5 "The Rebellion of the Tools" (2004): <br><br>

<blockquote>John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.</blockquote><br>

That paraphrase has, in turn, been frequently given as a direct quotation of Steinbeck.						</span>
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