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		<title>Berry, Wendell -- Essay (2003-02-09), &#8220;A Citizen&#8217;s Response,&#8221; sec. 4, Citizenship Papers (2003)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now we are stirring up the question whether or not Islam is a warlike religion, ignoring the question, much more urgent for us, whether or not Christianity is a warlike religion. There is no hope in this. Islam, Judaism, Christianity &#8212; all have been warlike religions. All have tried to make peace and rid [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we are stirring up the question whether or not Islam is a warlike religion, ignoring the question, much more urgent for us, whether or not Christianity is a warlike religion. There is no hope in this. Islam, Judaism, Christianity &#8212; all have been warlike religions. All have tried to make peace and rid the world of evil by fighting wars. This has not worked. It is never going to work. The failure belongs inescapably to all of these religions insofar as they have been warlike, and to acknowledge this failure is the duty of all of them. It is the duty of all of them to see that it is wrong to destroy the world, or risk destroying it, to get rid of its evil.</p>
<br><b>Wendell Berry</b> (b. 1934) American farmer, educator, poet, conservationist<br>Essay (2003-02-09), &#8220;A Citizen&#8217;s Response,&#8221; sec. 4, <i>Citizenship Papers</i> (2003) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/citizenshippaper00berr/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22failure+belongs+inescapably%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This passage did not appear in the original (abridged) <a href="https://landinstitute.org/media-coverage/citizens-response-national-security-strategy-united-states/">full-page ad in the <i>New York Times</i></a> (2003-02-06) or the <a href="https://orionmagazine.org/article/a-citizens-response-to-the-national-security-strategy/"><i>Orion</i> Magazine</a> (2003-03/04) publication of the essay.


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		<title>Montesquieu -- Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes], Letter  86, Usbek to Mirza (1721) [tr. Healy (1964), Letter 85]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admit that history is filled with religious wars, but let us be careful here, for it is not the multiplicity of religions which has produced these wars, but the spirit of intolerance stirring those who believed themselves to be in a dominant position. [J’avoue que les histoires sont remplies des guerres de religion : [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that history is filled with religious wars, but let us be careful here, for it is not the multiplicity of religions which has produced these wars, but the spirit of intolerance stirring those who believed themselves to be in a dominant position.</p>
<p><em>[J’avoue que les histoires sont remplies des guerres de religion : mais, qu’on y prenne bien garde, ce n’est point la multiplicité des religions qui a produit ces guerres, c’est l’esprit d’intolérance, qui animoit celle qui se croyoit la dominante.]</em></p>
<br><b>Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu</b> (1689-1755) French political philosopher<br><i>Persian Letters [Lettres Persanes]</i>, Letter  86, Usbek to Mirza (1721) [tr. Healy (1964), Letter 85] 
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(<a href="https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Lettres_persanes/Lettre_86#:~:text=J%E2%80%99avoue%20que%20les%20histoires%20sont%20remplies%20des%20guerres%20de%20religion%C2%A0%3A%20mais%2C%20qu%E2%80%99on%20y%20prenne%20bien%20garde%2C%20ce%20n%E2%80%99est%20point%20la%20multiplicit%C3%A9%20des%20religions%20qui%20a%20produit%20ces%20guerres%2C%20c%E2%80%99est%20l%E2%80%99esprit%20d%E2%80%99intol%C3%A9rance%2C%20qui%20animoit%20celle%20qui%20se%20croyoit%20la%20dominante.">Source (French)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I confess histories are full of religious wars: but do not let us take the thing wrong; it was not the diversity of religious that occasioned these wars; it was the untolerating spirit of that which thought she had the power in her hands.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters_Translated_by_Mr_Ozell_T/LEZiAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22full%20of%20religious%20wars%22&printsec=frontcover">Ozell</a> (1760 ed.)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I acknowledge, that history is full of religious wars: but we must take care to observe, it was not the multiplicity of religions that produced these wars, it was the intolerating spirit which  animated that which thought she had the power of governing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_persian-letters-by-m-_montesquieu-charles-de-_1762_1/page/248/mode/2up?q=%22full+of+religious+wars%22&view=theater">Floyd</a> (1762), Letter 85]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I acknowledge that history is full of religious wars: but we must distinguish; it is not the multiplicity of religions which has produced wars; it is the intolerant spirit animating that which believed itself in the ascendant.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Persian_Letters/Letter_86#:~:text=I%20acknowledge%20that%20history%20is%20full%20of%20religious%20wars%3A%20but%20we%20must%20distinguish%3B%20it%20is%20not%20the%20multiplicity%20of%20religions%20which%20has%20produced%20wars%3B%20it%20is%20the%20intolerant%20spirit%20animating%20that%20which%20believed%20itself%20in%20the%20ascendant.">Davidson</a> (1891)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I acknowledge that history is full of religious wars ; but it is an indisputable fact that these wars have not been produced by the multiplicity of religions, but rather by the intolerance of the dominant creed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/persianletters00degoog/page/n210/mode/2up?q=%22full+of+religious+wars%22">Betts</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I admit that history is full of wars of religion; but on this point we must be very careful; it is not the multiplicity of religions that produced these wars, but the spirit of intolerance animating the religion that believed itself to be dominant.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/BT7dISXhzowC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22full%20of%20wars%22">Mauldon</a> (2008), Letter 83]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I admit that history is full of wars of religion. But one must be careful here: these wars were not caused by a multiplicity of religions, but rather by the spirit of intolerance shown by the dominant religion's believers.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Persian_Letters/UK5aBAAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20admit%20that%20history%20is%20full%22">MacKenzie</a> (2014), Letter 85]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Letter (1816-11-11) to Matthew Carey</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the dogmas of religion as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarrelling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind. Were I to enter on that arena, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the dogmas of religion as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarrelling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind. Were I to enter on that arena, I should only add an unit to the number of Bedlamites.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Letter (1816-11-11) to Matthew Carey 
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Mistakenly identified in some sources as Archibald Carey.						</span>
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Letter (1809-09-27) to James Fishback [draft]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every religion consists of moral precepts, &#038; of dogmas. In the first they all agree. All forbid us to murder, steal, plunder, bear false witness Etc. and these are the articles necessary for the preservation of order, justice, &#038; happiness in society. In their particular dogmas all differ; no two professing the same. These respect [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every religion consists of moral precepts, &#038; of dogmas. In the first they all agree. All forbid us to murder, steal, plunder, bear false witness Etc. and these are the articles necessary for the preservation of order, justice, &#038; happiness in society. In their particular dogmas all differ; no two professing the same. These respect vestments, ceremonies, physical opinions, &#038; metaphysical speculations, totally unconnected with morality, &#038; unimportant to the legitimate objects of society. Yet these are the questions on which have hung the bitter schisms of Nazarenes, Socinians, Arians, Athanasians in former times, &#038; now of Trinitarians, Unitarians, Catholics, Lutherans, Calvinists, Methodists, Baptists, Quakers Etc. Among the Mahometans we are told that thousands fell victims to the dispute whether the first or second toe of Mahomet was longest; &#038; what blood, how many human lives have the words ‘this do in remembrance of me’ cost the Christian world! </p>
<p>We all agree in the obligation of the moral precepts of Jesus: but we schismatize &#038; lose ourselves in subtleties about his nature, his conception maculate or immaculate, whether he was a god or not a god, whether his votaries are to be initiated by simple aspersion, by immersion, or without water; whether his priests must be robed in white, in black, or not robed at all; whether we are to use our own reason, or the reason of others, in the opinions we form, or as to the evidence we are to believe. It is on questions of this, &#038; still less importance, that such oceans of human blood have been spilt, &#038; whole regions of the earth have been desolated by wars &#038; persecutions, in which human ingenuity has been exhausted in inventing new tortures for their brethren.</p>
<p>It is time then to become sensible how insoluble these questions are by minds like ours, how unimportant, &#038; how mischievous; &#038; to consign them to the sleep of death, never to be awakened from it. The varieties in the structure &#038; action of the human mind, as in those of the body, are the work of our creator, against which it cannot be a religious duty to erect the standard of uniformity. </p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Letter (1809-09-27) to James Fishback [draft] 
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Jefferson seriously dialed back his actual response, though he kept both in his files; the <a href="https://founders.archives.gov/?q=jefferson%20Fishback%201809&s=1111311111&sa=&r=3&sr=#:~:text=the%20interests%20of,standard%20of%20uniformity.">final letter</a> read, in this passage:<br><br>

<blockquote>The interests of society require the observation of those moral precepts only in which all religions agree, (for all forbid us to murder, steal, plunder, or bear false witness.) and that we should not intermeddle with the particular dogmas in which all religions differ, and which are totally unconnected with morality. in all of them we see good men, & as many in one as another. The varieties in the structure & action of the human mind as in those of the body, are the work of our creator, against which it cannot be a religious duty to erect the standard of uniformity.</blockquote>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion &#8212; it&#8217;s given people hope in a world torn apart by religion.</p>
<br><b>Jon Stewart</b> (b. 1962) American satirist, comedian, and television host. [b. Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz]<br><i>The Daily Show</i> 
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		<title>Russell, Bertrand -- &#8220;Philosophy and Politics,&#8221; lecture, National Book League, London (1946-10-23)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are now again in an epoch of wars of religion, but a religion is now called an &#8220;ideology.&#8221; Collected in Unpopular Essays (1950).]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are now again in an epoch of wars of religion, but a religion is now called an &#8220;ideology.&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Bertrand Russell</b> (1872-1970) English mathematician and philosopher<br>&#8220;Philosophy and Politics,&#8221; lecture, National Book League, London (1946-10-23) 
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Collected in <i>Unpopular Essays</i> (1950).						</span>
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		<title>Penn, William -- Fruits of Solitude, #537-539 (1682)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good End cannot sanctifie evil Means; nor must we ever do Evil, that Good may come of it. Some Folks think they may Scold, Rail, Hate, Rob and Kill too; so it be but for God&#8217;s sake. But nothing in us unlike him, can please him.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good End cannot sanctifie evil Means; nor must we ever do Evil, that Good may come of it. Some Folks think they may Scold, Rail, Hate, Rob and Kill too; so it be but for God&#8217;s sake. But nothing in us unlike him, can please him.</p>
<br><b>William Penn</b> (1644-1718) English writer, philosopher, politician, statesman<br><i>Fruits of Solitude,</i> #537-539 (1682) 
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		<title>Madison, James -- (Spurious)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries. This has been cited as in an 1803 letter objecting to building churches on government land, but, while not out of keeping with Madison&#8217;s rhetoric, it [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.</p>
<br><b>James Madison</b> (1751-1836) American statesman, political theorist, US President (1809-17)<br>(Spurious) 
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This has been cited as in an 1803 letter objecting to building churches on government land, but, while not out of keeping with Madison's rhetoric, it has not actually been found in Madison's writings. 						</span>
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