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		<title>Kierkegaard, Soren -- Select Entries from Journals and Papers on On My Work as an Author and The Point of View for My Work as an Author, Paper IX B 63:13 373 [tr. Hong/Hong]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then the tyrant dies, and his rule is over; the martyr dies, and his rule begins.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then the tyrant dies, and his rule is over; the martyr dies, and his rule begins.</p>
<br><b>Søren Kierkegaard</b> (1813-1855) Danish philosopher, theologian<br>Select Entries from Journals and Papers on <i>On My Work as an Author</i> and <i>The Point of View for My Work as an Author</i>, Paper IX B 63:13 373 [tr. Hong/Hong] 
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		<title>Sophocles -- Antigone, l.  679ff [Creon] (441 BC) [tr. Donaldson (1848)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And power must ne&#8217;er be yielded to a woman. For if we must succumb, &#8217;twere better far To crouch before a man; and thus at least No one could taunt us with a woman&#8217;s rule. Alternate translations: And yield to title to a woman&#8217;s will. Better, if needs be, men should cast us out Than [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And power must ne&#8217;er be yielded to a woman.<br />
For if we must succumb, &#8217;twere better far<br />
To crouch before a man; and thus at least<br />
No one could taunt us with a woman&#8217;s rule.</p>
<br><b>Sophocles</b> (496-406 BC) Greek tragic playwright<br><i>Antigone</i>, l.  679ff [Creon] (441 BC) [tr. Donaldson (1848)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Antigone_of_Sophocles_in_Greek_and_E/HMQNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA67&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22yielded%20to%20a%20woman%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Alternate translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>And yield to title to a woman's will.<br>
Better, if needs be, men should cast us out<br>
Than hear it said, a woman proved his match.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31/31-h/31-h.htm#linkantigone:~:text=And%20yield%20to%20title%20to%20a,said%2C%20a%20woman%20proved%20his%20match.">Campbell</a> (1873)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And not go down before a woman's will.<br>
Else, if I fall, 'twere best a man should strike me;<br>
Lest one should say, 'a woman worsted him.'<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.loyalbooks.com/download/text/Electra-Sophocles.txt#:~:text=And%20not%20go%20down%20before%20a,should%20say%2C%20'a%20woman%20worsted%20him.'">Storr</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And in no way can we let a woman defeat us. It is better to fall from power, if it is fated, by a man's hand, than that we be called weaker than women.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0186%3Acard%3D631#text_main:~:text=and%20in%20no%20way%20can%20we,we%20be%20called%20weaker%20than%20women.">Jebb</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

 




<blockquote>We will not yield<br>
To a weak woman; if we must submit,<br>
At least we will be conquered by a man,<br>
Nor by a female arm thus fall inglorious.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/7HVQAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22we%20will%20not%20yield%22">Werner</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>In no wise suffer a woman to worst us. Better to fall from power, if we must, by a man's hand; then we should not be called weaker than a woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Sophocles_(Jebb_1917)/Antigone#pageindex_161:~:text=in%20no%20wise%20suffer%20a%20woman,be%20called%20weaker%20than%20a%20woman.">Jebb</a> (1917)]</blockquote><br>



 


<blockquote>And no woman shall seduce us. If we must lose,<br>
Let's lose to a man, at least! Is a woman stronger than we?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://mthoyibi.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/antigone_2.pdf">Fitts/Fitzgerald</a> (1939), ll. 539-40]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>... not let myself be beaten by a woman.<br>
Better, if it must happen, that a man<br>
should overset me.<br>
I won't be called weaker than womankind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/docs/SOPHOCLES_ANTIGONE_(AS08).PDF">Wyckoff</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>We must not be<br>
Defeated by a woman. Better far<br>
Be overthrown, if need be, by a man<br>
Than to be called the victim of a woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone_Oedipus_the_King_Electra/I9Ely1BXWAQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22defeated%20by%20a%20woman%22">Kitto</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Never let some woman triumph over us.<br>
Better to fall from power, if fall we must,<br>
at the hands of a man -- never be rated<br>
inferior to a woman, never.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.olma.org/ourpages/auto/2013/9/5/51879406/Antigone.pdf">Fagles</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And there must be no surrender to a woman.<br>
No! If we call, better a man should take us down.<br>
Never say that a woman bested us!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/4180HoH81RgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22better%20a%20man%22">Woodruff</a> (2001), l. 669 ff]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Defeat by a woman must never happen. <br>
It is better, if it is bound to happen, to be expelled by a man. <br>
We could not be called "defeated by women" -- could not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/sophocles-antigone/#post-1273:~:text=Defeat%20by%20a%20woman%20must%20never,be%20called%20%E2%80%9Cdefeated%20by%20women%E2%80%9D%E2%80%93could%20not">Tyrell/Bennett</a> (2002), l. 678ff]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Under no circumstances must he allow a woman to defeat him. It would be best -- if needs be -- to be defeated by a man, rather then allow it to be said that women have taken over.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Antigone.php">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

 




<blockquote>And never let some woman beat us down.<br>
If we must fall from power, let that come<br>
at some man's hand -- at least, we won't be called<br>
inferior to any woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://johnstoi.web.viu.ca//sophocles/antigone.htm#:~:text=and%20never%20let%20some%20woman%20beat,inferior%20to%20any%20woman">Johnston</a> (2005), l. 770ff] </blockquote>




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		<title>Voltaire -- (Misattributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. Frequently attributed to Voltaire in memes, but unsourced in any of his writings. More accurately attributed to Kevin Alfred Strom during a 1993 anti-semitic screed on a radio broadcast: To determine the true rulers of any society, all you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.</p>
<br><b>Voltaire</b> (1694-1778) French writer [pseud. of Francois-Marie Arouet]<br>(Misattributed) 
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Frequently attributed to Voltaire in memes, but unsourced in any of his writings. More accurately attributed to Kevin Alfred Strom during a 1993 anti-semitic screed on a radio broadcast: <br><br>

<blockquote>To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?</blockquote><br>

More discussion of the attribution <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/to-learn-who-rules-over-you-quote-wrongly-attributed-to-voltaire-idUSL1N2UE2LM/">here</a>, <a href="https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-872903898775">here</a> and <a href="https://blog.oup.com/2017/03/voltaire-works-one-liner/">here</a>.						</span>
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