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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Discworld No.  2, The Light Fantastic (1986)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not for the first time she reflected that there were many drawbacks to being a swordswoman, not least of which was that men didn’t take you seriously until you’d actually killed them, by which time it didn’t really matter anyway.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for the first time she reflected that there were many drawbacks to being a swordswoman, not least of which was that men didn’t take you seriously until you’d actually killed them, by which time it didn’t really matter anyway.</p>
<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br>Discworld No.  2, <i>The Light Fantastic</i> (1986) 
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		<title>Euripides -- Medea [Μήδεια], l. 407ff (431 BC) [tr. Kovacs (Loeb) (1994)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[MEDEA: And furthermore we are women, unable to perform noble deeds, but most skillful architects of every sort of harm. [ΜΉΔΕΙΑ:Πρὸς δὲ καὶ πεφύκαμεν γυναῖκες, ἐς μὲν ἔσθλ᾽ ἀμηχανώταται, κακῶν δὲ πάντων τέκτονες σοφώταται.] Euripides presses his thumb on the scales a little bit heavily here. (Source (Greek)). Other translations: Altho&#8217; by nature form&#8217;d Without [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>MEDEA: And furthermore we are women, unable to perform noble deeds, but most skillful architects of every sort of harm.</p>
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<p>[ΜΉΔΕΙΑ:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Πρὸς δὲ καὶ πεφύκαμεν<br />
γυναῖκες, ἐς μὲν ἔσθλ᾽ ἀμηχανώταται,<br />
κακῶν δὲ πάντων τέκτονες σοφώταται.]<br /></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Medea</i> [Μήδεια], l. 407ff (431 BC) [tr. Kovacs (Loeb) (1994)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides00euri_0/mode/2up?q=%22women%2C+unable+to+perform+noble+deeds%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Euripides presses his thumb on the scales a little bit heavily here.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0113%3Acard%3D364#:~:text=%CF%80%CF%81%E1%BD%B8%CF%82%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%80%CE%B5%CF%86%CF%8D%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%BD%0A%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CE%BA%CE%B5%CF%82%2C%20%E1%BC%90%CF%82%20%CE%BC%E1%BD%B2%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%94%CF%83%CE%B8%CE%BB%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BC%80%CE%BC%CE%B7%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8E%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9%2C%0A%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%BA%E1%BF%B6%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD%20%CF%84%CE%AD%CE%BA%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%82%20%CF%83%CE%BF%CF%86%CF%8E%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9.">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Altho' by nature form'd <br>
Without a genius apt for virtuous deeds. <br>
We women are in mischiefs most expert.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/268/mode/2up?q=%22Altho%27+by+nature%22">Wodhull</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Nature form'd our sex to good<br>
Of slight capacity, but to revenge<br>
Of ready and inventive subtlety.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacch%C3%A6_Ion_Alcestis_Medea_Hippolytu/L8tCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22nature%20form%27d%20our%22">Potter</a> (1814)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">We women too art born<br>
Most profitless indeed to noble works,<br>
But cunningest devisers of all harms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Medea_(Webster_1868)#:~:text=We%20women%20too%20art%20born%0AMost%20profitless%20indeed%20to%20noble%20works%2C%0ABut%20cunningest%20devisers%20of%20all%20harms.">Webster</a> (1868)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We women, though by nature little apt for virtuous deeds, are most expert to fashion any mischief.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/Medea#:~:text=we%20women%2C%20though%20by%20nature%20little%20apt%20for%20virtuous%20deeds%2C%20are%20most%20expert%20to%20fashion%20any%20mischief.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Besides also we women are, by nature, to good actions of the least capacity, but the most cunning inventors of every ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15081/pg15081-images.html#MEDEA:~:text=Besides%20also%20we%20women%20are%2C%20by%20nature%2C%20to%20good%20actions%20of%20the%20least%20capacity%2C%20but%20the%20most%20cunning%20inventors%20of%20every%20ill.">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Yea, our woman-nature 'tis --<br>
Say they -- to be most helpless for all good,<br>
But fashioners most cunning of all ill.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Medea#:~:text=Yea%2C%20our%20woman%2Dnature%20%27tis%E2%80%94%0ASay%20they%E2%80%94to%20be%20most%20helpless%20for%20all%20good%2C%0ABut%20fashioners%20most%20cunning%20of%20all%20ill.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And God hath made thee woman, things most vain<br>
For help, but wondrous in the paths of pain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35451/pg35451-images.html#:~:text=And%20God%20hath%20made%20thee%20woman%2C%20things%20most%20vain%0AFor%20help%2C%20but%20wondrous%20in%20the%20paths%20of%20pain.">Murray</a> (1906)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And women, though most helpless in doing good deeds, <br>
Are of every evil the cleverest of contrivers.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-warner.ocr/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22And+women%2C+though%22">Warner</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We were born women -- useless for honest purposes,<br>
But in all kinds of evil skilled practitioners.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22honest+purposes%22">Vellacott</a> (1963)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And what is more,<br>
We're women, quite unable to manage good<br>
But none more skilled when it comes to doing harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-podlecki_20220818/page/31/mode/2up?q=%22manage+good%22">Podlecki</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And furthermore we are women, unable to perform great deeds of valor, but most skillful architects of every evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0114%3Acard%3D364#:~:text=And%20furthermore%20we%20are%20women%2C%20unable%20to%20perform%20great%20deeds%20of%20valor%2C%20but%20most%20skilful%20architects%20of%20every%20evil.">Kovacs</a> (Perseus)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What's more, we are women, quite helpless in doing good but surpassing any master craftsman in working evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri_d3q9/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22quite+helpless%22">Davie</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We women might be awful at doing something good but we are very competent when we’re doing something evil.  No one is better than us.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/medea/#:~:text=We%2C%20women%20might%20be%20awful%20at%20doing%20something%20good%20but%20we%20are%20very%20competent%20when%20we%E2%80%99re%20doing%20something%20evil.%C2%A0%20No%20one%20is%20better%20than%20us.">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And besides we are <br>
women, most helpless for the good, <br>
but skilled craftsmen of all that is evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/euripides-medea/#:~:text=And%20besides%20we%20are%C2%A0%0Awomen%2C%20most%20helpless%20for%20the%20good%2C%C2%A0%0Abut%20skilled%20craftsmen%20of%20all%20that%20is%20evil.">Luschnig</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Besides, we possess a woman’s nature --<br>
powerless to perform fine noble deeds,<br>
but very skilled in every form of evil.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/medeahtml.html#:~:text=Besides%2C%20we%20possess%20a%20woman%E2%80%99s%20nature%E2%80%94%0Apowerless%20to%20perform%20fine%20noble%20deeds%2C%0Abut%20very%20skilled%20in%20every%20form%20of%20evil.">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Also we were born as women, very helpless when it comes to doing good, but very wise creators of all kinds of harm.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_Medea/kNBUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22also%20we%20were%20born%22">Ewans</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And more than this, we are women, naturally most helpless <em>[amēkhanai]</em>, when it comes to noble deeds <em>[esthla]</em>, but for all evils <em>[kaka]</em> we are most skilled <em>[sophai]</em> contrivers.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-medea/#:~:text=And%20more%20than%20this%2C%20we%20are%20women%2C%20naturally%20most%20helpless%20%5B4%5D%C2%A0%5Bam%C4%93khanai%5D%2C%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20noble%20deeds%20%5Besthla%5D%2C%20but%20for%20all%20evils%20%5Bkaka%5D%20we%20are%20most%20skilled%20%5Bsophai%5D%20contrivers.">Coleridge / Ceragioli / Nagy / Hour25</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Medea [Μήδεια], l. 248ff (431 BC) [tr. Ewans (2022)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[MEDEA: Men say we live a safe life in the home, While they do battle with the spear. But they are wrong; I&#8217;d rather stand three times with shield in hand than give birth once. [ΜΉΔΕΙΑ: λέγουσι δ᾽ ἡμᾶς ὡς ἀκίνδυνον βίον ζῶμεν κατ᾽ οἴκους, οἱ δὲ μάρνανται δορί, κακῶς φρονοῦντες: ὡς τρὶς ἂν παρ᾽ [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">MEDEA: Men say we live a safe life in the home,<br />
While they do battle with the spear.<br />
But they are wrong; I&#8217;d rather stand three times<br />
with shield in hand than give birth once.</p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ΜΉΔΕΙΑ: λέγουσι δ᾽ ἡμᾶς ὡς ἀκίνδυνον βίον<br />
ζῶμεν κατ᾽ οἴκους, οἱ δὲ μάρνανται δορί,<br />
κακῶς φρονοῦντες: ὡς τρὶς ἂν παρ᾽ ἀσπίδα<br />
στῆναι θέλοιμ᾽ ἂν μᾶλλον ἢ τεκεῖν ἅπαξ.]</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Medea</i> [Μήδεια], l. 248ff (431 BC) [tr. Ewans (2022)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_Medea/kNBUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22men%20say%20we%20live%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This passage was often used by woman suffragists.<br><br>

(<a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2015/01/30/warfare-vs-childbirth-euripides-medea-248-51/">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">They still contend <br>
That we, at home remaining, lead a life <br>
Exempt from danger, while they launch the spear: <br>
False are these judgements; rather would I thrice, <br>
Arm'd with a target, in th' embattled field <br>
Maintain my stand, than suffer once the throes <br>
Of childbirth. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/260/mode/2up?q=%22They+still+contend%22">Wodhull</a> (1782)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Yet will they say<br>
We live an easy life, at home, secure<br>
From danger, whilst they lift the spear in war:<br>
Misjudging men; thrice would I stand in arms<br>
On the rough edge of battle, e'er once bear<br>
The pangs of childbirth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacch%C3%A6_Ion_Alcestis_Medea_Hippolytu/L8tCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22yet%20will%20they%20say%22">Potter</a> (1814)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But, say they, we, while they fight with the spear,<br>
Lead in our homes a life undangerous:<br>
Judging amiss; for I would liefer thrice<br>
Bear brunt of arms than once bring forth a child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Medea_(Webster_1868)#:~:text=But%2C%20say%20they%2C%20we%2C%20while%20they%20fight%20with%20the%20spear%2C%0ALead%20in%20our%20homes%20a%20life%20undangerous%3A%0AJudging%20amiss%3B%20for%20I%20would%20liefer%20thrice%0ABear%20brunt%20of%20arms%20than%20once%20bring%20forth%20a%20child.">Webster</a> (1868)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And yet they say we live secure at home, while they are at the wars, with their sorry reasoning, for I would gladly take my stand in battle array three times o'er, than once give birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/Medea#:~:text=And%20yet%20they%20say%20we%20live%20secure%20at%20home%2C%20while%20they%20are%20at%20the%20wars%2C%20with%20their%20sorry%20reasoning%2C%20for%20I%20would%20gladly%20take%20my%20stand%20in%20battle%20array%20three%20times%20o%27er%2C%20than%20once%20give%20birth.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But they say of us that we live a life of ease at home, but they are fighting with the spear; judging ill, since I would rather thrice stand in arms, than once suffer the pangs of child-birth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15081/pg15081-images.html#MEDEA:~:text=But%20they%20say%20of%20us%20that%20we%20live%20a%20life%20of%20ease%20at%20home%2C%20but%20they%20are%20fighting%20with%20the%20spear%3B%20judging%20ill%2C%20since%20I%20would%20rather%20thrice%20stand%20in%20arms%2C%20than%20once%20suffer%20the%20pangs%20of%20child%2Dbirth.">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But we, say they, live an unperilled life<br>
At home, while they do battle with the spear.<br>
Falsely they deem: twice would I under shield<br>
Stand, rather than bear childbirth peril once.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Medea#:~:text=But%20we%2C%20say,childbirth%20peril%20once.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And then, forsooth, 'tis they that face the call<br>
Of war, while we sit sheltered, hid from all<br>
Peril! -- False mocking! Sooner would I stand<br>
Three times to face their battles, shield in hand,<br>
Than bear one child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35451/pg35451-images.html#:~:text=And%20then%2C%20forsooth%2C%20%27tis%20they%20that%20face%20the%20call%0AOf%20war%2C%20while%20we%20sit%20sheltered%2C%20hid%20from%20all%0APeril!%E2%80%94False%20mocking!%20Sooner%20would%20I%20stand%0AThree%20times%20to%20face%20their%20battles%2C%20shield%20in%20hand%2C%0AThan%20bear%20one%20child.">Murray</a> (1906)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But we, they say, live a safe life at home,<br>
While they, the men, go forth in arms to war.<br>
Fools! Three times would I rather take my stand<br>
With sword and shield than bring to birth one child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Dictionary_of_Classical_Greek_Quotatio/knv1DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22but%20we%20they%20say%22">Murray</a> (1906), per Yeroulanos]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They tell us we live a sheltered life at home while they go to the wars; but that is nonsense. For I would rather go into battle twice than bear a child once.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Short_History_of_Women/keDSAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22they%20tell%20us%20we%22">Source</a> (1927)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What they say of us is that we have a peaceful time <br>
Living at home, while they do the fighting in war. <br>
How wrong they are! I would very much rather stand <br>
Three times in the front of battle than bear one child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-warner.ocr/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22they+say+of+us%22">Warner</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote><span class="tab">Men boast their battles: I tell you this, and we know it:<br>
<span class="tab">It is easier to stand in battle three times, in the front line, in the stabbing fury, than to bear one child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeafreelyadapt0000robi/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22it+is+easier%22">Jeffers</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And, they tell us, we at home<br>
Live free from danger, they go out to battle: fools!<br>
I'd rather stand three times in the front line than bear<br>
One child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22we+at+home%22">Vellacott</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say that we spend all our time at home,<br>
And live safe lives, while they go out to battle.<br>
What fools they are! I'd rather stand three times<br>
Behind a shield, than bear a child once!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-podlecki_20220818/page/23/mode/2up?q=%22all+our+time%22">Podlecki</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Men say that we live a life free from danger at home while they fight with the spear.  How wrong they are! I would rather stand three times with a shield in battle than give birth once.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0114%3Acard%3D214#:~:text=Men%20say%20that%20we%20live%20a%20life%20free%20from%20danger%20at%20home%20while%20they%20fight%20with%20the%20spear.%20%5B250%5D%20How%20wrong%20they%20are!%20I%20would%20rather%20stand%20three%20times%20with%20a%20shield%20in%20battle%20than%20give%20birth%20once.">Kovacs</a> (1994)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say we live sheltered lives in the home, free from danger, while they wield their spears in battle -- what fools they are! I would rather face the enemy three times over than bear a child once.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri_d3q9/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22live+sheltered+lives%22">Davie</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then people also say that while we live quietly and without any danger at home, the men go off to war.  Wrong!  One birth alone is worse than three times in the battlefield behind a shield.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/medea/#:~:text=Then%20people%20also%20say%20that%20while%20we%20live%20quietly%20and%20without%20any%20danger%20at%20home%2C%20the%20men%20go%20off%20to%20war.%C2%A0%20Wrong!%C2%A0%20One%20birth%20alone%20is%20worse%20than%20three%20times%20in%20the%20battlefield%20behind%20a%20shield.">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say that we live a life free of danger <br>
at home while they face battle with the spear. <br>
How wrong they are. I would rather stand three times<br>
in the line of battle than once bear a child. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/euripides-medea/#:~:text=They%20say%20that%20we%20live%20a%20life%20free%20of%20danger%C2%A0%0Aat%20home%20while%20they%20face%20battle%20with%20the%20spear.%C2%A0%0AHow%20wrong%20they%20are.%20I%20would%20rather%20stand%20three%20times250%0Ain%20the%20line%20of%20battle%20than%20once%20bear%20a%20child.%C2%A0">Luschnig</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>[...] I would rather stand behind a shield three times than give birth once.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2011/12/13/euripides-medea-250-251/">@sentantiq</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say that we live a peaceful life at home, while they do battle at spear point, but they reckon wrongly: I would rather stand armed with a shield thrice than give birth once.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2015/01/30/warfare-vs-childbirth-euripides-medea-248-51/">@sentantiq</a> [Erik] (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say we live secure in our households <i>[oikoi],</i> while they are off at war -- how worthlessly <i>[kakōs]</i> they think! How gladly would I three times over take my stand behind a shield rather than once give birth!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-medea/#:~:text=They%20say%20we%20live%20secure%20in%20our%20households%20%5Boikoi%5D%2C%20while%20they%20are%20off%20at%20war%E2%80%94%20%7C250%20how%20worthlessly%20%5Bkak%C5%8Ds%5D%20they%20think!%20How%20gladly%20would%20I%20three%20times%20over%20take%20my%20stand%20behind%20a%20shield%20rather%20than%20once%20give%20birth!">Coleridge / Ceragioli / Nagy / Hour25</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Marlowe, Christopher -- The Jew of Malta, Act 4, sc. 1 (c. 1590)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[FRIAR BARNARDINE: Thou hast committed &#8212; BARABAS: Fornication? but that was in another Country; And besides, the Wench is dead. Barabas trying to distract the friars from pressing him about the poisoning of the nunnery.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">FRIAR BARNARDINE: Thou hast committed &#8212;</p>
<p class="hangingindent">BARABAS: Fornication?  but that was in another Country;<br />
And besides, the Wench is dead.</p>
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<br><b>Christopher "Kit" Marlowe</b> (1564-1593) English dramatist and poet<br><i>The Jew of Malta</i>, Act 4, sc. 1 (c. 1590) 
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Barabas trying to distract the friars from pressing him about the poisoning of the nunnery.						</span>
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		<title>Euripides -- Medea [Μήδεια], l.  14ff (431 BC) [tr. Murray (1906)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[NURSE:Surely this doth bind, Through all ill days, the hurts of humankind, When man and woman in one music move. [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ: ἥπερ μεγίστη γίγνεται σωτηρία, ὅταν γυνὴ πρὸς ἄνδρα μὴ διχοστατῇ.] (Source (Greek)). Other translations: Hence bliss supreme arises, when the bond Of concord joins them. [tr. Wodhull (1782)] This is the state of firmest [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">NURSE:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Surely this doth bind,<br />
Through all ill days, the hurts of humankind,<br />
When man and woman in one music move.</span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="hangingindent">[ΤΡΟΦΌΣ: ἥπερ μεγίστη γίγνεται σωτηρία,<br />
ὅταν γυνὴ πρὸς ἄνδρα μὴ διχοστατῇ.]</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Medea</i> [Μήδεια], l.  14ff (431 BC) [tr. Murray (1906)] 
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0113%3Acard%3D1#:~:text=%E1%BC%A5%CF%80%CE%B5%CF%81%20%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%B3%CE%AF%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7%20%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%B3%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9,%CE%BC%E1%BD%B4%20%CE%B4%CE%B9%CF%87%CE%BF%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%84%E1%BF%87.">Source (Greek)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>Hence bliss supreme arises, when the bond <br>
Of concord joins them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/248/mode/2up?q=%22hence+bliss%22">Wodhull</a> (1782)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is the state of firmest happiness,<br>
When from the husband no discordant will<br>
The wife estranges.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacch%C3%A6_Ion_Alcestis_Medea_Hippolytu/L8tCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22firmest%20happiness%22">Potter</a> (1814)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In which the better part of safety lies<br>
That the woman should not differ from the man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Medea_(Webster_1868)#:~:text=In%20which%20the,from%20the%20man.">Webster</a> (1868)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The greatest safeguard this when wife and husband do agree.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/Medea#:~:text=the%20greatest%20safeguard%20this%20when%20wife%20and%20husband%20do%20agree">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Which is the surest support of conjugal happiness, when the wife is not estranged from the husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15081/pg15081-images.html#MEDEA:~:text=which%20is%20the%20surest%20support%20of%20conjugal%20happiness%2C%20when%20the%20wife%20is%20not%20estranged%20from%20the%20husband">Buckley</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Which is the chief salvation of the home,<br>
When wife stands not at variance with her lord.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Medea#:~:text=Which%20is%20the%20chief%20salvation%20of%20the%20home%2C%0AWhen%20wife%20stands%20not%20at%20variance%20with%20her%20lord.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is indeed the greatest salvation of all --<br>
For the wife not to stand apart from the husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-warner.ocr/page/n3/mode/2up?q=%22greatest+salvation%22">Warner</a> (1944)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Happy is the house<br>
Where the man and the woman love and are faithful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeafreelyadapt0000robi/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22love+and+are+faithful%22">Jeffers</a> (1946)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And in a marriage that's the saving thing,<br>
When a wife obediently accepts her husband's will.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/medeaotherplays0000euri/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22obediently+accepts%22">Vellacott</a> (1963)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This, to my mind, is a woman’s greatest safety:<br>
Not to take the opposite side from her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripides-medea-podlecki_20220818/page/13/mode/2up?q=%22greatest+safety%22">Podlecki</a> (1989)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This it is that most rescues life from trouble, when a woman is not at variance with her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0114#:~:text=This%20it%20is%20that%20most%20rescues%20life%20from%20trouble%2C%20%5B15%5D%20when%20a%20woman%20is%20not%20at%20variance%20with%20her%20husband.">Kovacs</a> (1994)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is what keeps a marraige intact more than anything, when a husband can count on complete support from his wife.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/9DazOvYlir0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22marriage%20intact%22">Davie</a> (1996)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That, you see, is how a woman earns her security: never argue with your husband!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/medea/#:~:text=that%2C%20you%20see%2C%20is%20how%20a%20woman%20earns%20her%20security%3A%20never%20argue%20with%20your%20husband!">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is what brings the greatest stability at home: <br>
when a woman does not challenge her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/euripides-medea/#:~:text=This%20is%20what%20brings%20the%20greatest%20stability%20at%20home%3A%C2%A0%0Awhen%20a%20woman%20does%20not%20challenge%20her%20husband.">Luschnig</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That’s when life is most secure and safe,<br>
when woman and her husband stand as one. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/euripides/medeahtml.html#:~:text=That%E2%80%99s%20when%20life%20is%20most%20secure%20and%20safe%2C%0Awhen%20woman%20and%20her%20husband%20stand%20as%20one.%C2%A0">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This provides the greatest security,<br>
when a wife doesn't oppose her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Greek_Plays/P5O5DAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22this%20privides%20the%20greatest%22">Kovacs / Kitzinger</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That is the best security, <br>
when the wife does not quarrel with her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_Medea/kNBUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22that%20is%20the%20best%20security%22">Ewans</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is the greatest safety <i>[sōtēriā],</i> when wife does not stand apart from husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-medea/#:~:text=This%20is%20the%20greatest%20safety%20%5Bs%C5%8Dt%C4%93ri%C4%81%5D%2C%20%7C15%20when%20wife%20does%20not%20stand%20apart%20from%20husband.">Coleridge / Ceragioli / Nagy / Hour25</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Carlin, George -- Book (2004), When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?, &#8220;Guys &#038; Dolls: Part 1&#8221;</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s all you need to know about men and women: Women are crazy and men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid. It&#8217;s not the only reason, but it&#8217;s a big one. And by the way, if you don&#8217;t think men are stupid, check the newspaper. [&#8230;] And if you don&#8217;t think women are crazy, ask a man. That&#8217;s the one thing men aren&#8217;t stupid about: they know for sure, way deep down in their hearts, that women are straight-out fucking nuts.</p>
<br><b>George Carlin</b> (1937-2008) American comedian<br>Book (2004), <i>When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?</i>, &#8220;Guys &#038; Dolls: Part 1&#8221; 
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		<title>Martin, Judith -- Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, Ms magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are always saying to me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t you want to go back in time?&#8221; To where? Prefeminism? Not very much, no.</p>
<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br>Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, <i>Ms</i> magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/ms78janmsfo/page/n159/mode/2up?q=%22to+where+prefeminism%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Jong, Erica -- Fear of Flying (1973)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men have always detested women&#8217;s gossip because they suspect the truth: their measurements are being taken and compared.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men have always detested women&#8217;s gossip because they suspect the truth: their measurements are being taken and compared.</p>
<br><b>Erica Jong</b> (b. 1942) American writer, poet<br><i>Fear of Flying</i> (1973) 
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		<title>Russell, Bertrand -- Conquest of Happiness, Part 1, ch.  9 &#8220;Fear of Public Opinion&#8221; (1930)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where the environment is stupid or prejudiced or cruel, it is a sign of merit to be out of harmony with it.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the environment is stupid or prejudiced or cruel, it is a sign of merit to be out of harmony with it.</p>
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<br><b>Bertrand Russell</b> (1872-1970) English mathematician and philosopher<br><i>Conquest of Happiness</i>, Part 1, ch.  9 &#8220;Fear of Public Opinion&#8221; (1930) 
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		<title>Martin, Judith -- Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, Ms magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of men got upset at the feminist movement because they had all the toys and we wanted some.</p>
<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br>Interview (1997-03), &#8220;She Says: Miss Manners,&#8221; by Sandy Fernández, <i>Ms</i> magazine, Vol. 7, No. 5 (1997-03/04) 
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		<title>Martin, Judith -- Interview (2011-08), &#8220;Q and A with Miss Manners,&#8221; by Arcynta Ali Childs, Smithsonian magazine</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many ways in which we’re become much more polite than Americans were historically. Blatant bigotry is no longer tolerated by this society. It exists, but people get into trouble for practicing it. The obligation to be considerate of others has spread to include groups that were excluded at many times.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many ways in which we’re become much more polite than Americans were historically. Blatant bigotry is no longer tolerated by this society. It exists, but people get into trouble for practicing it. The obligation to be considerate of others has spread to include groups that were excluded at many times.</p>
<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br>Interview (2011-08), &#8220;Q and A with Miss Manners,&#8221; by Arcynta Ali Childs, <i>Smithsonian</i> magazine 
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		<title>Euripides -- Hecuba [Hekabe; Ἑκάβη], l. 883ff (c. 424 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1958)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[AGAMEMNON:But women? Women overpower men? HECUBA:There is power in numbers, and cunning makes us strong. ἈΓΑΜΈΜΝΩΝ: καὶ πῶς γυναιξὶν ἀρσένων ἔσται κράτος; ἙΚΆΒΗ: δεινὸν τὸ πλῆθος σὺν δόλῳ τε δύσμαχον. Hecuba telling Agamemnon that she will rely on her fellow captive Trojan women to help exact her revenge on Polymestor. (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: AGAMΕΜΝΟΝ. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">AGAMEMNON:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But <i>women?</i><br />
<i>Women</i> overpower men?</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="hangingindent">HECUBA:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">There is power<br />
in numbers, and cunning makes us strong.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p> </p>
<p class="hangingindent">ἈΓΑΜΈΜΝΩΝ: καὶ πῶς γυναιξὶν ἀρσένων ἔσται κράτος;</p>
<p class="hangingindent">ἙΚΆΒΗ: δεινὸν τὸ πλῆθος σὺν δόλῳ τε δύσμαχον.</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Hecuba</i> [Hekabe; Ἑκάβη], l. 883ff (c. 424 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1958)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/euripidesiiihecu00euri/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22women+overpower+men%3F%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Hecuba telling Agamemnon that she will rely on her fellow captive Trojan women to help exact her revenge on Polymestor. <br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0097%3Acard%3D864#:~:text=%E1%BC%88%CE%B3%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%BC%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD%0A%0A%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%CF%80%E1%BF%B6%CF%82,%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%BC%CF%86%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CE%B3%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMΕΜΝΟΝ. How shall weak women; over men prevail?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA. Numbers are strong; add stratagem, resistless. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn6lrk&seq=269&q1=women">Potter</a> (1781)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">How can the female sex<br>
O'er men obtain a conquest?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Numbers strike<br>
A foe with terror, and the wiles of women<br>
Are hard to be withstood.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22How+can+the+female%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON: And how shall the victory over men be to women?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA: Numbers are powerful, with stratagem invincible.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://topostext.org/work/38#:~:text=AGA.%20And%20how%20shall%20the%20victory%20over%20men%20be%20to%20women%3F%0AHEC.%20Numbers%20are%20powerful%2C%20with%20stratagem%20invincible.%0AAGA.%20Powerful%2C%20I%20grant%3B%20I%20mistrust%20however%20the%20race%20of%20women.">Edwards</a> (1826)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON: How? -- women gain the mastery over men?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA: Mighty are numbers: joined with craft, resistless.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Hecuba#:~:text=on%20my%20slayer.-,Agamemnon.,Ay%2C%20mighty%2C%20yet%20misprize%20I%20womankind.,-885">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON: How are women to master men?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA:  Numbers are a fearful thing, and joined to craft a desperate foe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0098%3Acard%3D864#:~:text=Agamemnon%0AHow%20are,the%20female%20race.">Coleridge</a> (1938)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON: How can women win against men?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA: Who can stand against a tribe<br>
A wild tribe of wise women?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hecuba/mRZLAQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=agamemnon%20%22women%20win%20against%20men%22">McGuinness</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON:  How can you women overpower a man?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA: Enough of them would scare you soon enough and with cunning they're a force hard to resist.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hecuba/94JBBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22agamemnon%20how%20can%22">Harrison</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON: But how will the women be able to overcome the strength of men?<br>
<span class="tab">HEKABE: Numbers, when joined with treachery, can cause great terror.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wpcomstaging.com/euripides/hekabe-aka-hecuba/#:~:text=Agamemnon%3A%0ABut%20how%20will%20the,who%20left%20Lemnos%20totally%20without%20men%3F">Theodoridis</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">AGAMEMNON:<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">But how?<br>
You are women. How will women defeat men?<br>
<span class="tab">HECUBA: There is unnerving strength in numbers, especially when<br>
you add deceit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.didaskalia.net/issues/8/32/HecubaKardanStreet.pdf#page=27">Karden/Street</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Safa, Mohamad -- Facebook (2020-08-06)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion. Frequently misattributed to Nelson Mandela. Safa also posted it on Twitter the same day, and, as it went viral (and began being misattributed), reiterated his [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.</p>
<br><b>Mohamad Safa</b> (b. 1991) Lebanese diplomat, politician<br>Facebook (2020-08-06) 
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Frequently <a href="https://wist.info/mandela-nelson/77684/">misattributed to Nelson Mandela</a>.<br><br>

Safa also posted it on <a href="https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1291490665604493313?lang=en">Twitter the same day</a>, and, as it went viral (and began being misattributed), reiterated his authorship on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mhdksafa/posts/714474615797800">Facebook (2020-09-06)</a>.<br><br>

More discussion:<br><br>
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	<li><a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quote-nelson-mandela/" title="Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com">Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-quote-on-a-divided-world-misattributed-to-nelson-mandela-idUSKBN26X1W6/" title="Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters">Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters</a>.</li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.</p>
<br><b>Nelson Mandela</b> (1918-2013) South African revolutionary, politician, statesman<br>(Misattributed) 
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Widely attributed to Mandela, but not found in his works or news record. It appears to actually have been <a href="https://wist.info/safa-mohamad/77686/">said by Lebanese diplomat Mohamad Safa</a>.<br><br>

That said, the sentiment and language aligns with other statements by Mandala, such as in a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NelsonMandelaCentreOfMemory/posts/491945300843242">speech (1999-04-16)</a> in Durban, South Africa:<br><br>

<blockquote>But let us re-affirm this one thing here today; it is not our diversity which divides us; it is not our ethnicity, or religion or culture that divides us. Since we have achieved our freedom, there can only be one division amongst us: between those who cherish democracy and those who do not.</blockquote><br>

Or a <a href="https://www.un.org/en/events/mandeladay/legacy.shtml#:~:text=We%20must%20ensure%20that%20colour%2C%20race%20and%20gender%20become%20only%20a%20God%2Dgiven%20gift%20to%20each%20one%20of%20us%20and%20not%20an%20indelible%20mark%20or%20attribute%20that%20accords%20a%20special%20status%20to%20any.">speech (1994-10-03)</a> before the United Nations General Assembly:  <br><br>

<blockquote>We must ensure that color, race and gender become only a God-given gift to each one of us and not an indelible mark or attribute that accords a special status to any.</blockquote><br>

More discussion about this quotation:<br><br>
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	<li><a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quote-nelson-mandela/" title="Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com">Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-quote-on-a-divided-world-misattributed-to-nelson-mandela-idUSKBN26X1W6/" title="Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters">Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters</a>.</li>
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		<title>Johnson, Samuel -- Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets, &#8220;Milton&#8221; (1781)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been observed, that they who most loudly clamour for liberty do not most liberally grant it. What we know of Milton&#8217;s character, in domestic relations, is, that he was severe and arbitrary. His family consisted of women; and there appears in his books something like a Turkish contempt of females, as subordinate and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been observed, that they who most loudly clamour for liberty do not most liberally grant it. What we know of Milton&#8217;s character, in domestic relations, is, that he was severe and arbitrary. His family consisted of women; and there appears in his books something like a Turkish contempt of females, as subordinate and inferior beings. That his own daughters might not break the ranks, he suffered them to be depressed by a mean and penurious education. He thought woman made only for obedience, and man only for rebellion.</p>
<br><b>Samuel Johnson</b> (1709-1784) English writer, lexicographer, critic<br><i>Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets</i>, &#8220;Milton&#8221; (1781) 
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Also known as <i>Lives of English Poets</i> and <i>Lives of the Poets</i>.

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		<title>Martin, Judith -- Star-Spangled Manners, ch.  1 (2003)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Etiquette systems of one kind or another govern all social intercourse, formal and informal, which is why faulty ones are able to do so much damage. A system that denies the innate human need for dignity to specific categories of people, typically the poor and the enslaved, fosters incendiary resentment.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etiquette systems of one kind or another govern all social intercourse, formal and informal, which is why faulty ones are able to do so much damage. A system that denies the innate human need for dignity to specific categories of people, typically the poor and the enslaved, fosters incendiary resentment.</p>
<br><b>Judith Martin</b> (b. 1938) American author, journalist, etiquette expert [a.k.a. Miss Manners]<br><i>Star-Spangled Manners</i>, ch.  1 (2003) 
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		<title>Sayers, Dorothy -- &#8220;Are Women Human?&#8221; speech to a Women&#8217;s Society (1938)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have admitted that there are very few women who would put their job before every earthly consideration. I will go further and assert that there are very few men who would do it either. In fact, there is perhaps only one human being in a thousand who is passionately interested in his job for [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have admitted that there are very few women who would put their job before every earthly consideration. I will go further and assert that there are very few men who would do it either. In fact, there is perhaps only one human being in a thousand who is passionately interested in his job for the job’s sake. The difference is that if that one person in a thousand is a man, we say, simply, that he is passionately keen on his job; if she is a woman, we say she is a freak.</p>
<br><b>Dorothy Sayers</b> (1893-1957) English author, translator<br>&#8220;Are Women Human?&#8221; speech to a Women&#8217;s Society (1938) 
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Collected in <i>Unpopular Opinions</i> (1946).						</span>
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		<title>Stanton, Elizabeth Cady -- Letter (1855-09-10) to Susan B. Anthony</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think that all in me of which my father would have felt a proper pride had I been a man, is deeply mortifying to him because I am a woman.</p>
<br><b>Elizabeth Cady Stanton</b> (1815-1902) American social activist, abolitionist, woman's suffragist<br>Letter (1855-09-10) to Susan B. Anthony 
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		<title>Barrie, James -- Peter Pan, Act 1 (1904, pub. 1928)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[PETER: Wendy, one girl is worth more than twenty boys. In Barrie&#8217;s novelization, Peter and Wendy, ch. 3 &#8220;Come Away, Come Away!&#8221; (1911), this is rendered: &#8220;Wendy,&#8221; he continued, in a voice that no woman has ever yet been able to resist, “Wendy, one girl is more use than twenty boys.”]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">PETER: Wendy, one girl is worth more than twenty boys.</p>
<p></p>
<br><b>J. M. Barrie</b> (1860-1937) Scottish novelist and dramatist [James Matthew Barrie]<br><i>Peter Pan</i>, Act 1 (1904, pub. 1928) 
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In Barrie's novelization, <i><a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Peter_and_Wendy_(1911)/Chapter_3#:~:text=%E2%80%98%E2%80%98Wendy%2C%E2%80%9D%20he%20continued%2C%20in%20a%20voice%20that%20no%20woman%20has%20ever%20yet%20been%20able%20to%20resist%2C%20%E2%80%9CWendy%2C%20one%20girl%20is%20more%20use%20than%20twenty%20boys.%E2%80%9D">Peter and Wendy</a></i>, ch.  3 "Come Away, Come Away!" (1911), this is rendered:<br><br>  

<blockquote>"Wendy," he continued, in a voice that no woman has ever yet been able to resist, “Wendy, one girl is more use than twenty boys.”</blockquote>


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		<title>Peters, Ellis -- Cadfael Chronicles No.  2, A Morbid Taste for Bones, ch.  9 [Cadfael] (1977)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both men and women partake of the same human nature, Huw. We both bleed when we’re wounded. That’s a poor, silly woman, true, but we can show plenty of poor, silly men. There are women as strong as any of us, and as able.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both men and women partake of the same human nature, Huw. We both bleed when we’re wounded. That’s a poor, silly woman, true, but we can show plenty of poor, silly men. There are women as strong as any of us, and as able.</p>
<br><b>Ellis Peters</b> (1913-1995) English writer, translator [pseud. of Edith Mary Pargeter, who also wrote under the names John Redfern, Jolyon Carr, Peter Benedict]<br>Cadfael Chronicles No.  2, <i>A Morbid Taste for Bones</i>, ch.  9 [Cadfael] (1977) 
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		<title>Coffin, William Sloane -- The Courage to Love, ch.  5 (1982)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I have come to recognize is that just as &#8220;the black problem&#8221; turned out to be a problem of white racism, just as &#8220;the woman problem&#8221; turned out to be a problem of male sexism, so &#8220;the homosexual problem&#8221; is really the homophobia of many heterosexuals.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I have come to recognize is that just as &#8220;the black problem&#8221; turned out to be a problem of white racism, just as &#8220;the woman problem&#8221; turned out to be a problem of male sexism, so &#8220;the homosexual problem&#8221; is really the homophobia of many heterosexuals. </p>
<br><b>William Sloane Coffin, Jr.</b> (1924-2006) American minister, social activist<br><i>The Courage to Love</i>, ch.  5 (1982) 
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		<title>Ehrenreich, Barbara -- &#8220;Hers&#8221; column, New York Times (1985-02-07)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are talking about a nine-month bout of symptoms of varying severity, often including nausea, skin discolorations, extreme bloating and swelling, insomnia, narcolepsy, hair loss, varicose veins, hemorrhoids, indigestion, and irreversible weight gain, and culminating in a physiological crisis which is occasionally fatal and almost always excruciatingly painful. If men were equally at risk from [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about a nine-month bout of symptoms of varying severity, often including nausea, skin discolorations, extreme bloating and swelling, insomnia, narcolepsy, hair loss, varicose veins, hemorrhoids, indigestion, and irreversible weight gain, and culminating in a physiological crisis which is occasionally fatal and almost always excruciatingly painful. If men were equally at risk from this condition &#8212; if they knew their bellies might swell as if they were suffering from end-stage cirrhosis, that they would have to go nearly a year without a stiff drink, a cigarette, or even an aspirin, that they would be subject to fainting spells and unable to fight their way onto commuter trains &#8212; then I am sure that pregnancy would be classified as a sexually transmitted disease and abortions would be no more controversial than emergency appendectomies.</p>
<br><b>Barbara Ehrenreich</b> (1941-2022) American feminist, journalist, political activist <br>&#8220;Hers&#8221; column, <i>New York Times</i> (1985-02-07) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1985/02/07/garden/hers.html?searchResultPosition=1#:~:text=We%20are%20talking,than%20emergency%20appendectomies." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://archive.org/details/worstyearsofour100ehre/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22equally+at+risk%22">Reprinted</a> as "Their Dilemma and Mine," <i>The Worst Years of Our Lives</i> (1990) 						</span>
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		<title>O'Malley, Austin -- Keystones of Thought (1914)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We smile at the women who are eagerly following the fashions in dress whilst we are as eagerly following the fashions in thought.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We smile at the women who are eagerly following the fashions in dress whilst we are as eagerly following the fashions in thought.</p>
<br><b>Austin O'Malley</b> (1858-1932) American ophthalmologist, professor of literature, aphorist<br><i>Keystones of Thought</i> (1914) 
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		<title>McLaughlin, Mignon -- The Second Neurotic&#8217;s Notebook, ch.  3 (1966)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men are convinced that women have it easy, but they haven&#8217;t convinced many women.</p>
<br><b>Mignon McLaughlin</b> (1913-1983) American journalist and author<br><i>The Second Neurotic&#8217;s Notebook</i>, ch.  3 (1966) 
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		<title>Barbusse, Henri -- Light, ch. 23 (1919)</title>
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<br><b>Henri Barbusse</b> (1873-1935) French novelist, poet, journalist, activist<br><i>Light</i>, ch. 23 (1919) 
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		<title>Euripides -- Bacchæ [Βάκχαι], l.  485ff (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[PENTHEUS: Do you hold your rites during the day or night? DIONYSUS: Mostly by night. The darkness is well suited to devotion. PENTHEUS: Better suited to lechery and seducing women. DIONYSUS: You can find debauchery by daylight too. [Πενθεύς: τὰ δ᾽ ἱερὰ νύκτωρ ἢ μεθ᾽ ἡμέραν τελεῖς; Διόνυσος: νύκτωρ τὰ πολλά: σεμνότητ᾽ ἔχει σκότος. Πενθεύς: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PENTHEUS: Do you hold your rites<br />
<span class="tab">during the day or night?<br />
DIONYSUS: Mostly by night.<br />
<span class="tab">The darkness is well suited to devotion.<br />
PENTHEUS: Better suited to lechery and seducing women.<br />
DIONYSUS: You can find debauchery by daylight too.</p>
<p>[Πενθεύς: τὰ δ᾽ ἱερὰ νύκτωρ ἢ μεθ᾽ ἡμέραν τελεῖς;<br />
Διόνυσος: νύκτωρ τὰ πολλά: σεμνότητ᾽ ἔχει σκότος.<br />
Πενθεύς: τοῦτ᾽ ἐς γυναῖκας δόλιόν ἐστι καὶ σαθρόν.<br />
Διόνυσος: κἀν ἡμέρᾳ τό γ᾽ αἰσχρὸν ἐξεύροι τις ἄν.]</span></span></p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Bacchæ</i> [Βάκχαι], l.  485ff (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/euripidesv00euri/page/180/mode/2up?q=%22day+or+night%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<blockquote>PENTHEUS: By night or day these sacred rites perform'st thou ?<br>
BACCHUS: Mostly by nighty for venerable is darkness.<br>
PENTHEUS: To women this is treacherous and unsafe.<br>
BACCHUS: E'en in the broadest day may shame be found.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/366/mode/2up?q=%22By++night++or++day%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you perform the rites by night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly by night; darkness conveys awe.<br>
PENTHEUS: This is treacherous towards women, and unsound.<br>
DIONYSUS: Even during the day someone may devise what is shameful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0092%3Acard%3D476#:~:text=Pentheus%0A%5B485%5D%20Do,what%20is%20shameful.">Buckley</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Performest thou these rites by night or day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Most part by night -- night hath more solemn awe.<br>
PENTHEUS: A crafty rotten plot to catch our women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Even in the day bad men can do bad deeds.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_x9h8/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22night+or+day%22">Milman</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Dost thou perform thy rites by day; or night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Chiefly by night; darkness gives dignity.<br>
PENTHEUS: Craft rather and seduction it denotes.<br>
DIONYSUS: Base acts are oft made manifest by day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaerogers00euri/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22day+or+night%22">Rogers</a> (1872), l. 462ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Is it by night or day thou performest these devotions?<br>
DIONYSUS: By night mostly; darkness lends solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: Calculated to entrap and corrupt women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Day too for that matter may discover shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/The_Bacchantes#:~:text=Pen.%20Is%20it,may%20discover%20shame.">Coleridge</a> (1891)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: By night or day dost thou perform his rites? ⁠<br>
DIONYSUS: Chiefly by night: gloom lends solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: Ay -- and for women snares of lewdness too.<br>
DIONYSUS: In the day too may lewdness be devised.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/The_Bacchanals#:~:text=By%20night%20or%20day%20dost%20thou%20perform%20his%20rites%3F">Way</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: How is thy worship held, by night or day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Most oft by night; 'tis a majestic thing,<br>
<span class="tab">The darkness.<br>
PENTHEUS: Ha! with women worshipping?<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis craft and rottenness!<br>
DIONYSUS:  By day no less,<br>
<span class="tab">Whoso will seek may find unholiness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35173/pg35173-images.html#:~:text=not%20thy%20way.-,Pentheus.,By%20day%20no%20less%2C%0AWhoso%20will%20seek%20may%20find%20unholiness.,-Pentheus.">Murray</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you celebrate your sacred acts at night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: At night for the most party. Darkness possesses solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: Darkness for women is deceitful and corrupt!<br>
DIONYSUS: Even in daytime one could discover disgraceful behavior.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_w7z7/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22night+or+by+day%22">Kirk</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you celebrate your mysteries by night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Chiefly by night. Darkness induces religious awe.<br>
PENTHEUS: For women darkness is treacherous and impure.<br>
DIONYSUS: Impurity can be practiced by daylight too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000phil/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22night+or+by+day%22">Vellacott</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: These sacred practices of your god, the worship,<br>
<span class="tab">The rites of great devotion, do they<br>
<span class="tab">Hold at night, or in the day.<br>
DIONYSUS: [...] We hold our rites mostly at night<br>
<span class="tab">Because it is cooler. And the lamps<br>
<span class="tab">Lend atmosphere and feeling to the heart in worship.<br>
[...]<br>
PENTHEUS: And I say night hours are dangerous<br>
<span class="tab">Lascivious hours, lechery ....<br>
DIONYSUS: You'll find debauchery in daylight, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid00soyi/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22these+sacred+practices%22">Soyinka</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: The rites -- at night or by day you perform them?<br>
DIONYSUS: At night, mostly; there’s majesty in darkness.<br>
PENTHEUS: And for women there’s trickery and smut.<br>
DIONYSUS: Even by day one may discover shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070928000447/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mattneub/downloads/bacchae.pdf">Neuburg</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you perform your mysteries<br>
<span class="tab">during the day or by night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly at night.<br>
<span class="tab">The dark is more conducive to worship.<br>
PENTHEUS: You mean to lechery and bringing out the filth in women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Those who look for filth, can find it at the height of noon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3f3/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22day+or+by+night%22">Cacoyannis</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you worship in daylight or at night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly at night. Darkness is most sacred.<br>
PENTHEUS: That is treacherous and unwholesome for women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Some find shame even in daylight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_h0w4/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22daylight+or+at+night%22">Blessington</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you celebrate these sacred rites at night or in the day?<br>
THE STRANGER: At night mostly, since darkness induces devotion.<br>
PENTHEUS: No, darkness is devious and corrupts women.<br>
THE STRANGER: Even in the day someone could devise shameful deeds.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid0000euri/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22night+or+in+the+day%22">Esposito</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: You practice this cult by night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly at night. Darkness lends solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: Darkness is just a filthy trap for women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Some people can dig up dirt in daytime, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_s0g4/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22night+or+by+day%3F%22">Woodruff</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you perform the rites by day? -- or night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly at night -- because the darkness has its holiness.<br>
PENTHEUS: It's treacherous, for women, and corrupts them.<br>
DIONYSUS: What's shameful can be found even by light of day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeotherplay0000euri_p0i4/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22day+or+night%22">Gibbons/Segal</a> (2000), l. 571ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you practice your rites at night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly at night: darkness lends solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: This is an immoral trick aimed at women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Someone could engage in shameful deeds even by day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeiphigenia00euri/page/54/mode/2up">Kovacs</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: And you perform these practices at night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Man's true nature's seen in darkness not in light.<br>
PENTHEUS: While darkness shrouds a woman's true duplicity.<br>
DIONYSUS: Duplicity's not found in night exclusively.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchai0000euri/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22practices+at+night%22">Teevan</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Tell me, when do you hold your worship? By clear day, or dark night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly by night -- it is a majestic time.<br>
PENTHEUS: Indeed! A majestic time to take advantage of women. Shameful!<br>
DIONYSUS: There are enough shameful things done by day. And enough shameful thoughts in your head, I am sure!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_The_Bacchae/_2TKSJfPDT4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22when%20do%20you%20hold%20your%20worship%3F%22">Rao/Wolf</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: These ... holy orgies of yours… do you perform them during the day or in the night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Most of them during the night.  Darkness adds a certain modesty.<br>
PENTHEUS: That’s quite a dubious thing for the women… and rather lecherous, I’d say.<br>
DIONYSUS: Shame, of course can be seen during the day, too, if it exists and if one were to look for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/bacchae/#:~:text=Pentheus%3A%0AThese,look%20for%20it.">Theodoridis</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you conduct the mysteries in the night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Us'ally by night, for darkness holds reverence.<br>
PENTHEUS: Is this thing deceitful or unwholesome towards women?<br>
DIONYSUS: One might also uncover shameful things i' the day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://euripidesofathens.blogspot.com/2008/01/scene-2.html#:~:text=P%3A%20Do%20you%20conduct%20the%20mysteries%20in%20the%20night%20or%20by%20day%3F%0AD%3A%20Us%27ally%20by%20night%2C%20for%20darkness%20holds%20reverence.%0AP%3A%20Is%20this%20thing%20deceitful%20or%20unwholesome%20towards%20women%3F%0AD%3A%20One%20might%20also%20uncover%20shameful%20things%20i%27%20the%20day.%20(glare)">Valerie</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: When you dance these rites,<br>
<span class="tab">is it at night or during daylight hours?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mainly at night. Shadows confer solemnity.<br>
PENTHEUS: And deceive the women. It's all corrupt!<br>
DIONYSUS: One can do shameful things in daylight, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bacchae/o4JeCg6u18oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22dance%20these%20rites%22">Johnston</a> (2008), l. 604ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: These mysteries. Do you practise them by day, or night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly by night. Dark is better for devotion.<br>
PENTHEUS: Better for lechery and the taking of women.<br>
DIONYSUS: That happens in daylight too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3z6/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22by+day+or+night%22">Robertson</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: And are these rites conducted by day or by night?<br>
DIONYSUS: Night, for the most part. It’s so much more ... spiritual. Good for devotion.<br>
PENTHEUS: The night’s a trap for women’s virtue.<br>
DIONYSUS: And the day isn’t? You don’t get out much, do you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://the-mercurian.com/2019/12/13/the-bacchae/#:~:text=PENTHEUS%3A%20And%20are,much%2C%20do%20you%3F">Pauly</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you perform your rituals by day or night?<br>
DIONYSUS: By night. We believe that darkness is holy.<br>
PENTHEUS: It's a cunning time to force filth upon women.<br>
DIONYSUS: Vice thrives in daylight, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacchae_of_Euripides/UmCTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22by%20day%20or%20night%22">Behr/Foster</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>PENTHEUS: Do you perform the sacred rites <i>[hiera]</i> by night or by day?<br>
DIONYSUS: Mostly by night; darkness conveys awe.<br>
PENTHEUS: This is treacherous towards women, and unsound.<br>
DIONYSUS: Even during the day you can find what is shameful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-bacchae-sb/#:~:text=Pentheus%0A485%20Do,what%20is%20shameful.">Buckley/Sens/Nagy</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Virgil -- The Aeneid [Ænē̆is], Book  9, l. 614ff (9.614-620) (29-19 BC) [tr. Bartsch (2021)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[But you! Your clothes have violet and saffron stitching, your hobby’s laziness, you love to dance, your tunics have long sleeves and your hats are bonnets! O Phrygian ladies (no men here), go prance over Mount Dindyma’s ridge, where the double flute plays your sort of tunes. Your tambourines and Mother Ida’s boxwoods call you. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you! Your clothes<br />
have violet and saffron stitching, your hobby’s<br />
laziness, you love to dance, your tunics<br />
have long sleeves and your hats are bonnets!<br />
O Phrygian ladies (no men here), go prance over<br />
Mount Dindyma’s ridge, where the double flute plays<br />
your sort of tunes. Your tambourines and Mother Ida’s<br />
boxwoods call you. Leave the weapons to real men.</p>
<p><em>[Vobis picta croco et fulgenti murice vestis,<br />
desidiae cordi, iuvat indulgere choreis,<br />
et tunicae manicas et habent redimicula mitrae.<br />
O vere Phrygiae, neque enim Phryges, ite per alta<br />
Dindyma ubi adsuetis biforem dat tibia cantum!<br />
Tympana vos buxusque vocat Berecyntia Matris<br />
Idaeae sinite arma viris et cedite ferro.]</em></p>
<br><b>Virgil</b> (70-19 BC) Roman poet [b. Publius Vergilius Maro; also Vergil]<br><i>The Aeneid [Ænē̆is]</i>, Book  9, l. 614ff (9.614-620) (29-19 BC) [tr. Bartsch (2021)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/FioVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%20%22your%20clothes%20have%20violet%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Numanus Remulus, a Rutulian, trash-talking the Trojan soldiers under siege; he is promptly shot by Ascanius.<br><br> 

Dindymus (etc.) is a mountain in Galatia, a worship-place of Cybele, whose rites used the instruments described. The Trojans are often identified with their allies, the Phrygians, in the <em>Aeneid</em>. As Cybele was the chief deity of the Phrygians, a mother goddess with a eunuch priesthood, the association of Phrygians (and "Asians" in general) with effeminacy was not uncommon in the <em>Aeneid</em> (or in other Roman works of the period), even if it is simultaneously presenting the Trojans as the founders of Rome.<br><br>

(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0055%3Abook%3D9%3Acard%3D590#:~:text=Vobis%20picta%20croco,cedite%20ferro.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You cloath'd in purple, and in scarlet are,<br>
Are pleas'd with sloth, in wanton dances pride;<br>
Your coats have hanging sleeves, your myters tide:<br>
True female Phrygians; men you are not: Go<br>
To Dyndimus, whose well-set tunes you know,<br>
Where lutes and harps of Bericynthian Ide<br>
Invites; and let Men war; lay arms aside.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A65106.0001.001/1:6.9?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=You%20cloath%27d%20in,lay%20arms%20aside.">Ogilby</a> (1649)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Your vests embroider'd with rich purple shine;<br>
In sloth you glory, and in dances join.<br>
Your vests have sweeping sleeves; with female pride<br>
Your turbants underneath your chins are tied.<br>
Go, Phrygians, to your Dindymus again!<br>
Go, less than women, in the shapes of men!<br>
Go, mix'd with eunuchs, in the Mother's rites,<br>
Where with unequal sound the flute invites;<br>
Sing, dance, and howl, by turns, in Ida's shade:<br>
Resign the war to men, who know the martial trade!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Dryden)/Book_IX#:~:text=Your%20vests%20embroider%27d,the%20martial%20trade!">Dryden</a> (1697)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your very dress is embroidered with saffron-hues and gaudy purple; indolence is your heart's delight; to indulge in dances you love; your vests have sleeves, and your mitres ribands. O Phrygian women, surely, for Phrygian men you cannot be! go range along the lofty tops of Dindymus, where pipe sounds the discordant note to you accustomed. The timbrels and Berecynthian flute of the Ideaean mother Cybele invite you: leave arms to men, and from the sword refrain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Works_of_Virgil/GuFCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22your%20very%20dress%22">Davidson/Buckley</a> (1854)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You flaunt your robes in all men's eyes,<br>
Your saffron and your purple dyes,<br>
Recline on downy couch, or weave<br>
The dreamy dance from morn to eve:<br>
Sleeved tunics guard your tender skins,<br>
And ribboned mitres prop your chins.<br>
Phrygians! -- nay rather Phrygian fair!<br>
Hence, to your Dindymus repair!<br>
Go where the flute's congenial throat<br>
Shrieks through two doors its slender note,<br>
Where pipe and cymbal call the crew;<br>
These are the instruments for you:<br>
Leave men, like us, in arms to deal,<br>
Nor bruise your lily hands with steel.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Aeneid_(Conington_1866)/Book_9#:~:text=You%20flaunt%20your,hands%20with%20steel.">Conington</a> (1866)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You, in your broidered vests of saffron hue <br>
And glowing purple, indolently live; <br>
Delighting in your dances, and your sleeves. <br>
And caps, with lappets underneath your chins. <br>
Yea, Phrygian women, verily, not men! <br>
Hence to the summits of your Dindymus, <br>
Where breathes the flute in your accustomed ear <br>
Its two weak notes. The Berecynthian pipe <br>
And timbrels call you. Throw your weapons down!<br>
Leave arms to heroes of a sturdier stuff.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirgiltra00crangoog/page/n301/mode/2up?q=dindymus">Cranch</a> (1872), l. 757ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yours is embroidered raiment of saffron and shining sea-purple. Indolence is your pleasure, your delight the luxurious dance; you wear sleeved tunics and ribboned turbans. O right Phrygian women, not even Phrygian men! traverse the heights of Dindymus, where the double-mouthed flute breathes familiar music. The drums call you, and the Berecynthian boxwood of the mother of Ida; leave arms to men, and lay down the sword.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22456/pg22456-images.html#:~:text=Yours%20is%20embroidered,down%20the%20sword.">Mackail</a> (1885)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But ye -- the raiment saffron-stained, with purple glow tricked out --<br>
These are your heart-joys: ye are glad to lead the dance about.<br>
Sleeve-coated folk, O ribbon-coifed, not even Phrygian men,<br>
But Phrygian wives, to Dindymus the high go get ye then!<br>
To hear the flute's twin-mouthèd song as ye are wont to do!<br>
The Berecynthian Mother's box and cymbals call to you<br>
From Ida: let men deal with war, and drop down your swords.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/29358/pg29358-images.html#:~:text=But%20ye%E2%80%94the,adown%20your%20swords.">Morris</a> (1900)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ye love to dance, and dally with the fair,<br>
In saffron robes with purple flounces gay.<br>
Your toil is ease, and indolence your care,<br>
And tunics hung with sleeves, and ribboned coifs ye wear.<br>	
Go Phrygian women, for ye are not men!<br>
Hence, to your Dindymus, and roam her heights<br>
With Corybantian eunuchs! Get ye, then,<br>
And hear the flute, harsh-grating, that invites<br>
With two-mouthed music to her lewd delights,<br>
Where boxen pipe and timbrel from afar<br>
Shriek forth the summons to her sacred rites.<br>
Put by the sword, poor dotards as ye are,<br>
Leave arms to men, like us, nor meddle with the war.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/18466/pg18466-images.html#:~:text=Ye%20love%20to,with%20the%20war.">Taylor</a> (1907), st. 79-80, l. 708ff.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But ye! your gowns are saffron needlework<br>
or Tyrian purple; ye love shameful ease,<br>
or dancing revelry. Your tunics fiow<br>
long-sleeved, and ye have soft caps ribbon-bound.<br>
Aye, Phrygian girls are ye, not Phrygian men!<br>
Hence to your hill of Dindymus! Go hear<br>
the twy-mouthed piping ye have loved so long.<br>
The timbrel, hark! the Berecynthian flute<br>
calls you away, and Ida's goddess calls.<br>
Leave arms to men, true men! and quit the sword!<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0054%3Abook%3D9%3Acard%3D590#:~:text=But%20ye!%20your,quit%20the%20sword!">Williams</a> (1910)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But ye are clothed in embroidered saffron and gleaming purple; sloth is your joy, your delight is to indulge the dance; your tunics have sleeves and your turbans ribbons. O ye Phrygian women, indeed! -- for Phrygian men are ye not -- go ye over the heights of Dindymus, where to accustomed ears the pipe utters music from double mouths! The timbrels call you, and the Berecynthian boxwood of the mother of Ida: leave arms to men, and quit the sword.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/workswithenglish02virguoft/page/154/mode/2up?q=dindymus">Fairclough</a> (1918)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you -- O wonderful in purple and saffron! --<br>
Love doing nothing, you delight in dancing,<br>
And oh, those fancy clothes, sleeves on the tunics,<br>
And ribbons in the bonnets! Phrygian women,<br>
By God, not Phrygian men! Be gone forever<br>
Over the heights of Dindymus; pipe and timbrel<br>
Call you to female rites: leave arms to men,<br>
The sword to warriors!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/61596/pg61596-images.html#:~:text=But%20you%E2%80%94O,sword%20to%20warriors!">Humphries</a> (1951), l. 253ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you, in your dresses embroidered with yellow and loud purple,<br>
You with the hearts of loafers, you devotees of dancing,<br>
With frilly sleeves to your tunics, and bonnets kept on by ribbons! --<br>
You Phrygian women (for Phrygian men you are not), run away<br>
To Mount Dindymus, where the double-mouthed pipe dweedles for addicts!<br>
The timbrels and Berecynthian fife of Cybele call you.<br>
Leave fighting to men, I advise you; relinquish sword-play to others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aenei00virg/page/220/mode/2up?q=dindymus">Day-Lewis</a> (1952)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you wear robes of saffron, ornamented<br>
and gleaming purole; you like laziness,<br>
and you delight in dances; and your tunics <br>
have sleeves, your bonnets, ribbons. You indeed<br>
are Phrygian women -- hardly Phrygian men:<br>
now gow, prance through high Dindyma, there where<br>
the twin-mouthed pipes delight familiar ears!<br>
The timbrel and the Berecynthian flute<br>
of Ida's mother summon you to revels;<br>
leave arms to men, you have had enough of swords.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidofvirgil100virg/page/234/mode/2up?q=dindyma">Mandelbaum</a> (1971), l. 820ff] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You people dress in yellow and glowing red, <br>
You live for sloth, and you go in for dancing, <br>
Sleeves to your tunics, ribbons to your caps. <br>
Phrygian women, in truth, not Phrygian men! <br>
Climb Mount Dindyma where the double pipes<br>
Make song for the effet, where the small drums<br>
And the Idaean Mother's Berecynthian <br>
Boxwood flute are always wheedling you!<br>
Leave war to fighting men, give up the sword.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneid00virg/page/282/mode/2up?q=dindyma">Fitzgerald</a> (1981), l. 855ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you like your clothes dyed with yellow saffron and the bright juice of the purple fish. Your delight is in dancing and idleness. You have sleeves to your tunics and ribbons to keep your bonnets on. You are Phrygian women, not Phrygian men! Away with you over the heights of Mount Dindymus, where you can hear your favourite tunes on the double pipe. The tambourines are calling you and the boxwood fifes of the Berecyntian Mother of Mount Ida. Leave weapons to the men. Make way for the iron of our swords.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/aeneidvirg00virg/page/234/mode/2up?q=dindymus">West</a> (1990)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wear embroidered saffron and gleaming purple,<br>
idleness pleases you, you delight in the enjoyment of dance,<br>
and your tunics have sleeves, and your hats have ribbons.<br>
O truly you Phrygian women, as you’re not Phrygian men,<br>
run over the heights of Dindymus, where a double-reed<br>
makes music for accustomed ears. The timbrels call to you,<br>
and the Berecynthian boxwood flute of the Mother of Ida:<br>
leave weapons to men and abandon the sword.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/VirgilAeneidIX.php#anchor_Toc4666550:~:text=You%20wear%20embroidered,abandon%20the%20sword.">Kline</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you, with your saffron braided dress, your flashy purple,<br>
you live for lazing, lost in your dancing, your delight,<br>
blowzy sleeves on your war-shirts, ribbons on bonnets.<br>
Phrygian women -- that’s what you are -- not Phrygian men!<br>
Go traipsing over the ridge of Dindyma, catch the songs<br>
on the double pipe you dote on so! The tambourines,<br>
they’re calling for you now, and the boxwood flutes<br>
of your Berecynthian Mother perched on Ida!<br>
Leave the fighting to men. Lay down your swords!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Aeneid/okrFGPoJb6cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=dindyma">Fagles</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Child, Lydia Maria -- &#8220;Concerning Women,&#8221; The Independent (21 Oct 1869)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I published my first book, I was gravely warned by some of my female acquaintances that no woman could expect to be regarded as a <i>lady</i> after she had written a book.</p>
<br><b>Lydia Maria Child</b> (1802-1880) American abolitionist,  activist, journalist, suffragist<br>&#8220;Concerning Women,&#8221; <i>The Independent</i> (21 Oct 1869) 
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		<title>Euripides -- Bacchæ [Βάκχαι], l.  260ff [Pentheus/Πενθεύς] (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When once you see the glint of wine shining at the feasts of women, then you may be sure the festival is rotten. [γυναιξὶ γὰρ ὅπου βότρυος ἐν δαιτὶ γίγνεται γάνος, οὐχ ὑγιὲς οὐδὲν ἔτι λέγω τῶν ὀργίων.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: For when women Share at their feasts the grape&#8217;s bewitching juice; From their [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When once you see<br />
the glint of wine shining at the feasts of women,<br />
then you may be sure the festival is rotten. </p>
<p>[γυναιξὶ γὰρ<br />
ὅπου βότρυος ἐν δαιτὶ γίγνεται γάνος,<br />
οὐχ ὑγιὲς οὐδὲν ἔτι λέγω τῶν ὀργίων.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Bacchæ</i> [Βάκχαι], l.  260ff [Pentheus/Πενθεύς] (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://classics.domains.skidmore.edu/lit-campus-only/primary/translations/Euripides%20Bac.pdf" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0091%3Acard%3D215#:~:text=%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BE%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B3%E1%BD%B0%CF%81%0A%E1%BD%85%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%20%CE%B2%CF%8C%CF%84%CF%81%CF%85%CE%BF%CF%82%20%E1%BC%90%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%84%E1%BD%B6%20%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%B3%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CE%B3%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82%2C%0A%CE%BF%E1%BD%90%CF%87%20%E1%BD%91%CE%B3%CE%B9%E1%BD%B2%CF%82%20%CE%BF%E1%BD%90%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%94%CF%84%CE%B9%20%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%B3%CF%89%20%CF%84%E1%BF%B6%CE%BD%20%E1%BD%80%CF%81%CE%B3%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>For when women<br>
Share at their feasts the grape's bewitching juice; <br>
From their licentious orgies, I pronounce<br>
No good results.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/358/mode/2up?q=%22for+when+women%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where women have the delight of the grape-cluster at a feast, I say that none of their rites is healthy any longer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0092%3Acard%3D215#:~:text=For%20where%20women%20have%20the%20delight%20of%20the%20grape%2Dcluster%20at%20a%20feast%2C%20I%20say%20that%20none%20of%20their%20rites%20is%20healthy%20any%20longer.">Buckley</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where ’mong women <br>
The grape’s sweet poison mingles with the feast, <br>
Nought holy may we augur of such worship.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_x9h8/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22for+where+mong%22">Milman</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When women drain the wine-cup at the feast,<br>
Foul is the orgie, dangerous the disease.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaerogers00euri/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22when+women+drain%22">Rogers</a> (1872)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where the gladsome grape is found at women’s feasts, I deny that their rites have any longer good results.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/The_Bacchantes#:~:text=for%20where%20the%20gladsome%20grape%20is%20found%20at%20women%E2%80%99s%20feasts%2C%20I%20deny%20that%20their%20rites%20have%20any%20longer%20good%20results.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when<br>
In women's feasts the cluster's pride hath part,<br>
No good, say I, comes of their revelry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/The_Bacchanals#cite_ref-6:~:text=for%20when,of%20their%20revelry.">Way</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When once the gleam<br>
Of grapes hath lit a Woman's Festival,<br>
In all their prayers is no more health at all!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35173/pg35173-images.html#:~:text=When%20once%20the%20gleam%0AOf%20grapes%20hath%20lit%20a%20Woman%27s%20Festival%2C%0AIn%20all%20their%20prayers%20is%20no%20more%20health%20at%20all!">Murray</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where women<br>
have the sparkle of the vine in their festivities,<br>
there, I say, nothing wholesome remains in their rituals.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_w7z7/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22for+where+women%22">Kirk</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As for women, my opinion is this: when the sparkle of sweet wine appears at their feasts, no good can be expected from their ceremonies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000phil/page/188/mode/2up?q=%22as+for+women%22">Vellacott</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I tell you, when women <br>
have the cluster’s refreshment at banquets,<br>
there’s nothing healthy left about their orgies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070928000447/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mattneub/downloads/bacchae.pdf">Neuburg</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Take my word,<br>
when women are allowed to fast on wine, there is no<br>
telling to what lengths their filthy minds will go!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3f3/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22Take+my+word%22">Cacoyannis</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I say that feast where a woman takes <br>
The gleaming grape is most diseased.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_h0w4/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22I+say+that+feast%22">Blessington</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For whenever the liquid joy<br>
of the grape comes into women's festivals, then, I assure, you,<br>
there's nothing wholesome in their rites.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid0000euri/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22liquid+joy%22">Esposito</a> (1998)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Because when women<br>
get their sparkle at a feast from wine,<br>
I say the entire ritual is corrupt.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_s0g4/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22because+when+women%22">Woodruff</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when the women have <br>
The bright grape-cluster gleaming at their feasts, <br>
There’s nothing healthy in these rites, I say.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeotherplay0000euri_p0i4/page/254/mode/2up?q=%22for+when+the+women%22">Gibbons/Segal</a> (2000)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Wherever women get the gleaming grape to drink in their feasts, everything about their rites is diseased.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeiphigenia00euri/page/34/mode/2up">Kovacs</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I’m telling you both, no good comes out of drunk women.<br>
Wine wisdom and orgies are dangerous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/bacchae/#:~:text=I%E2%80%99m%20telling%20you%20both%2C%20no%20good%20comes%20out%20of%20drunk%20women.%0AWine%20wisdom%20and%20orgies%20are%20dangerous.">Theodoridis</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For whenever the pleasure of the grape's<br>
cluster comes shimmering to women in feast, I say no-<br>
thing is left wholesome in their orgies!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://euripidesofathens.blogspot.com/2008/01/scene-1.html#:~:text=for%20whenever%20the%20pleasure%20of%20the%20grape%27s%0Acluster%20comes%20shimmering%20to%20women%20in%20feast%2C%20I%20say%20no%2D%0Athing%20is%20left%20wholesome%20in%20they%27re%20orgies!">Valerie</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whenever women at some banquet start to take pleasure in the gleaming wine, I say there's nothing healthy in their worship.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bacchae/o4JeCg6u18oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22whenever%20women%22">Johnston</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It's always the same: as soon as you allow drink and women at a festival, everything gets sordid.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3z6/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22always+the+same%22">Robertson</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When <i>women</i> start getting into the wine, I say it’s gone too far. It’s not healthy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://the-mercurian.com/2019/12/13/the-bacchae/#:~:text=When%20women%20start%20getting%20into%20the%20wine%2C%20I%20say%20it%E2%80%99s%20gone%20too%20far.%20It%E2%80%99s%20not%20healthy.">Pauly</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is no good in these festivals where shimmering wine corrupts women.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacchae_of_Euripides/UmCTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22shimmering%20wine%22&printsec=frontcover">Behr/Foster</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For where women have the delight of the grape at a feast, I say that none of their rites is healthy any longer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-bacchae-sb/#:~:text=For%20where%20women%20have%20the%20delight%20of%20the%20grape%20at%20a%20feast%2C%20I%20say%20that%20none%20of%20their%20rites%20is%20healthy%20any%20longer.">Buckley/Sens/Nagy</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Wollstonecraft, Mary -- A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, ch.  3 (1792)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taught from infancy that beauty is woman&#8217;s sceptre, the mind shapes itself to the body, and roaming round its gilt cage, only seeks to adorn its prison.</p>
<br><b>Mary Wollstonecraft</b> (1759-1797) English social philosopher, feminist, writer<br><i>A Vindication of the Rights of Woman</i>, ch.  3 (1792) 
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		<title>Euripides -- Bacchæ [Βάκχαι], l.  217ff [Pentheus/Πενθεύς] (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stories of our women leaving home to frisk in mock ecstasies among the thickets on the mountain, dancing in honor of the latest divinity, a certain Dionysus, whoever he may be! In their midst stand bowls brimming with wine. And then, one by one, the women wander off to hidden nooks where they serve the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories of our women leaving home to frisk<br />
in mock ecstasies among the thickets on the mountain,<br />
dancing in honor of the latest divinity,<br />
a certain Dionysus, whoever he may be!<br />
In their midst stand bowls brimming with wine.<br />
And then, one by one, the women wander off<br />
to hidden nooks where they serve the lusts of men.<br />
Priestesses of Bacchus they claim they are,<br />
but it&#8217;s really Aphrodite they adore. </p>
<p>[γυναῖκας ἡμῖν δώματ᾽ ἐκλελοιπέναι<br />
πλασταῖσι βακχείαισιν, ἐν δὲ δασκίοις<br />
ὄρεσι θοάζειν, τὸν νεωστὶ δαίμονα<br />
Διόνυσον, ὅστις ἔστι, τιμώσας χοροῖς:<br />
πλήρεις δὲ θιάσοις ἐν μέσοισιν ἑστάναι<br />
κρατῆρας, ἄλλην δ᾽ ἄλλοσ᾽ εἰς ἐρημίαν<br />
πτώσσουσαν εὐναῖς ἀρσένων ὑπηρετεῖν,<br />
πρόφασιν μὲν ὡς δὴ μαινάδας θυοσκόους,<br />
τὴν δ᾽ Ἀφροδίτην πρόσθ᾽ ἄγειν τοῦ Βακχίου.]</p>
<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Bacchæ</i> [Βάκχαι], l.  217ff [Pentheus/Πενθεύς] (405 BC) [tr. Arrowsmith (1960)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://classics.domains.skidmore.edu/lit-campus-only/primary/translations/Euripides%20Bac.pdf" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0091%3Acard%3D215#:~:text=%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%82%20%E1%BC%A1%CE%BC%E1%BF%96%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%CF%8E%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84,%CF%84%CE%BF%E1%BF%A6%20%CE%92%CE%B1%CE%BA%CF%87%CE%AF%CE%BF%CF%85.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Their homes <br>
Our women have deserted, on pretence <br>
That they in mystic orgies are engaged; <br>
On the umbrageous hills they chant the praise <br>
Of this new God, whoe'er he be, this Bacchus; <br>
Him in their dances they revere, and place <br>
Amid their ranks huge goblets fraught with wine: <br>
Some fly to pathless deserts, where they meet <br>
Their paramours, while they in outward shew <br>
Are Mænedes by holy rites engrossed. <br>
Yet Venus more than Bacchus they revere. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi00wodhgoog/page/356/mode/2up?q=%22their+homes+our+women%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The women have left our homes in contrived Bacchic rites, and rush about in the shadowy mountains, honoring with dances this new deity Dionysus, whoever he is. I hear that mixing-bowls stand full in the midst of their assemblies, and that they each creep off different ways into secrecy to serve the beds of men, on the pretext that they are Maenads worshipping; but they consider Aphrodite before Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0092%3Acard%3D215#:~:text=the%20women%20have,Aphrodite%20before%20Bacchus.">Buckley</a> (1850)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women all have left their homes, to join<br>
These fabled mysteries. On the shadowy rocks<br>
Frequent they sit, this God of yesterday, <br>
Dionysus, whosoe'er he be, with revels<br>
Dishonorable honoring. In the midst<br>
Stand the crowned goblets; and each stealing forth,<br>
This way and that, creeps to a lawless bed;<br>
In pretext, holy sacrificing Mænads,<br>
But serving Aphrodite more than Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_x9h8/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22our+women+all%22">Milman</a> (1865)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women have deserted from their homes,<br>
Pretending Bacchic rites, and now they lurk<br>
In the shady hill-tops reverencing forsooth<br>
This Dionysus, this new deity.<br>
Full bowls of wine are served out to the throng;<br>
And scattered here and there through the glades,<br>
The wantons hurry to licentious love.<br>
They call themselves the priestess Mænades;<br>
Bacchus invoke, but Aphrodite serve.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaerogers00euri/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22women+have+deserted%22">Rogers</a> (1872), l. 200ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hear that our women-folk have left their homes on pretence of Bacchic rites, and on the wooded hills rush wildly to and fro, honouring in the dance this new god Dionysus, whoe’er he is; and in the midst of each revel-rout the brimming wine-bowl stands, and one by one they steal away to lonely spots to gratify their lust, pretending forsooth that they are Mænads bent on sacrifice, though it is Aphrodite they are placing before the Bacchic god.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Plays_of_Euripides_(Coleridge)/The_Bacchantes#:~:text=I%20hear%20that,the%20Bacchic%20god.">Coleridge</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How from their homes our women have gone forth<br>
Feigning a Bacchic rapture, and rove wild<br>
O'er wooded hills, in dances honouring<br>
Dionysus, this new God -- whoe'er he be. ⁠<br>
And midst each revel-rout the wine-bowls stand<br>
Brimmed: and to lonely nooks, some here, some there,<br>
They steal, to work with men the deed of shame,<br>
In pretext Maenad priestesses, forsooth,<br>
But honouring Aphroditê more than Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/The_Bacchanals#cite_ref-6:~:text=How%20from%20their,more%20than%20Bacchus.">Way</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Our own<br>
Wives, our own sisters, from their hearths are flown<br>
To wild and secret rites; and cluster there<br>
High on the shadowy hills, with dance and prayer<br>
To adore this new-made God, this Dionyse,<br>
Whate'er he be! -- And in their companies<br>
Deep wine-jars stand, and ever and anon<br>
Away into the loneliness now one<br>
Steals forth, and now a second, maid or dame,<br>
Where love lies waiting, not of God! The flame,<br>
They say, of Bacchios wraps them. Bacchios! Nay,<br>
'Tis more to Aphrodite that they pray.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35173/pg35173-images.html#:~:text=our%20own%0AWives,that%20they%20pray.">Murray</a> (1902)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That our women have abandoned their homes<br>
in fake bacchic revels, and in the deep-shaded<br>
mountains are roaming around, honoring with dances<br>
the new-made god Dionysus, whoever he is;<br>
that wine-bowls are set among the sacred companies<br>
full to the brim, and that one by one the women go crouching <br>
into the wilderness, to serve the lechery of men --<br>
they profess to be maenads making sacrifice, <br>
but actually they put Aphrodite before the Bacchic god. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_w7z7/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22abandoned+their+homes%22">Kirk</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women, I discover, have abandoned their homes on some pretence of Bacchic worship, and go gadding about in the woods on the mountain side, dancing in honour of this upstart god Dionysus, whoever he may be. They tell me, in the midst of each group of revellers stands a bowl full of wine; and the women go creeping off this way and that to lonely places and there give themselves to lecherous men, under the excuse that they are Maenad priestesses; though in their ritual Aphrodite comes before Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000phil/page/188/mode/2up?q=%22Our+women%2C+I+discover%22">Vellacott</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They leave their home, desert their children<br>
Follow the new fashion and join the Bacchae<br>
Flee the hearth to mob the mountains -- those contain<br>
Deep shadows of course, secret caves to hide<br>
Lewd games for this new god -- Dionysos!<br>
That's the holy spirit newly discovered.<br>
Dionysos! Their ecstasy is flooded down <br>
In brimming bowls of wine -- so much for piety!<br>
Soused, with all the senses roused, they crawl<br>
Into the bushes and there of course a man<br>
Awaits them. All part of the service for for this<br>
Mysterious deity. The hypocrisy? All they care about<br>
Is getting serviced.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid00soyi/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22they+leave+their%22">Soyinka</a> (1973)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women gone, abandoning their homes,<br>
pretending to be bacchae, massing<br>
in the bushy mountains, this latest divinity<br>
Dionysos (whoever he is) honouring and chorusing, <br>
filling and setting amidst the thiasus<br>
wine-bowls, and one by one in solitude<br>
sneaking off to cater to male bidding, --<br>
supposedly as sacrificial maenads,<br>
but Aphrodite ranks before their Bacchic One.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070928000447/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mattneub/downloads/bacchae.pdf">Neuburg</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women, I am told, have left their homes, <br>
in a religious trance -- what travesty! --<br>
and scamper up and down the wooded mountains, dancing<br>
in honor of this newfangled God, Dionysus,<br>
whoever he might be.<br>
In the middle of each female group<br>
of revelers, I hear,<br>
stands a jar of wine, brimming! And that taking turns,<br>
they steal away, one here, one there, to shady nooks,<br>
where they satisfy the lechery of men,<br>
pretending to be priestesses,<br>
performing their religious duties. Ha!<br>
<i>That</i> performance reeks more of Aphrodite than of Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3f3/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22our+women+i+am+told%22">Cacoyannis</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women have abandoned our homes <br>
And, in a jacked-up frenzy of phony inspiration,<br>
Riot in the dark mountains,<br>
Honoring this upstart god, Dionysos --<br>
Whatever he is -- dancing in his chorus.<br>
Full jugs of wine stand in their midst<br>
And each woman slinks off<br>
To the wilderness to serve male lust,<br>
Pretending they are praying priestesses,<br>
But Aphrodite leads them, not Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_h0w4/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22abandoned+our+homes%22">Blessington</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women have abandoned their homes<br>
for the sham revelries of Bacchus<br>
frisking about on the dark-shadowed mountains<br>
honoring with their dances the latest god, Dionysius, whoever he is.<br>
They've set up their mixing bowls brimming with wine<br>
amidst their cult gatherings, and each lady slinks off in a different direction<br>
to some secluded wilderness to service the lusts of men.<br>
They pretend to be maenads performing sacrifices<br>
but in reality they rank Aphrodite's pleasures before Bacchus!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeofeuripid0000euri/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22mixing+bowls%22">Esposito</a> (1998)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These women of ours have left their homes<br>
and run away to the dark mountains, pretending<br>
to be Bacchants. It's this brand-new god,<br>
Dionysus, whoever that is; they're dancing for <i>him!</i><br>
They gather in throngs around full bowls<br>
of wine; then one by one they sneak away<br>
to lonely places where they sleep with men.<br>
Priestesses they call themselves! Maenads!<br>
It's Aphrodite they put first, not Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_s0g4/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22these+women+of+ours%22">Woodruff</a> (1999)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Women leave<br>
Our houses for bogus revels (“Bakkhic” indeed!), <br>
Dashing through the dark shade of mountain forests<br>
To honor with their dancing this new god,<br>
Dionysos -- whoever he may be --<br>
And right in their midst they set full bowls of wine,<br>
And slink into the thickets to meet men there,<br>
Saying they are maenads sacrificing <br>
When they really rank Aphrodite first,<br>
Over Bakkhos!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeotherplay0000euri_p0i4/page/252/mode/2up?q=%22bogus+revels%22">Gibbons/Segal</a> (2000)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The women have left our homes in fictitious ecstatic rites and flit about on the thick-shaded mountains, honoring the new god Dionysus, whoever he is, with their dancing. They set up full wine bowls in the middle of their assembles and sneak off, one here, one there, to tryst in private with men. The pretext for all of this is that they are maenads, performing their rites, but they hold Aphrodite in higher regard than the bacchic god. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchaeiphigenia00euri/page/30/mode/2up">Kovacs</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hear our women have flown from their proper place in the home -- dancing about in the shadowy hills in sham ecstasy for this newfound Dionysus! And these wine-befuddled women slink into the darkness, drawn by the sirens of lust. Fine high priestesses of the new god! They seem to make more worship of Aphrodite than of Bacchus!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Euripides_The_Bacchae/_2TKSJfPDT4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%20%22hear%20our%20women%22">Rao/Wolf</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I heard that our women have left their homes and gone off to the mountains dancing the Bacchic dances! Some new, young god! Utter rubbish! There they are, placing great tubs full of wine in the centre of their group, in the middle of nowhere and off they go, one here, another there, rolling around with any man they come across and giving the excuse that they are maenads; but what are they doing? Serving Dionysos?  No way! They’re serving Aphrodite!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/bacchae/#:~:text=I%20heard%20that,They%E2%80%99re%20serving%20Aphrodite!">Theodoridis</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The women have left us, abandoning their homes in <br>
phony Bacchic worship and that they gad about on<br>
the bushy mountaintops; that this "new" god Dio-<br>
nysus, whoever he really is, is honoured in their dances,<br>
and that they set the sacred wine-bowls, fill'd, in the<br>
midst of the thiasoi, each slinking off her sep'rate<br>
way to serve males' hot lust in the woods, pre-<br>
tending to be Maenads sacrificing; and so<br>
they place Aphrodite on top of Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://euripidesofathens.blogspot.com/2008/01/scene-1.html#:~:text=the%20women%20have,top%20of%20Bacchus.">Valerie</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;... women leaving home<br>
to go to silly Bacchic rituals,<br>
cavorting there in mountain shadows,<br>
with dances honoring some upstart god,<br>
this Dionysus, whoever he may be. Mixing bowls<br>
in the middle of their meetings filled with wine,<br>
they creep off one by one to lonsely spots<br>
to have sex with men, claiming they're Maenads<br>
busy worshipping. But they rank Aphrodite,<br>
goddess of sexual desire, ahead of Bacchus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bacchae/o4JeCg6u18oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22women%20leaving%20home%22">Johnston</a> (2008), l. 272ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Women have deserted their homes for these<br>
fraudulent rites -- up in the woods and mountains,<br>
dancing to celebrate some new god --<br>
Dionysus, whoever he is.<br>
Drink is at the bottom of it all.<br>
Huge bowls stand in their midst, I'm told,<br>
brimming with wine, and one by one the women<br>
slip into the shadows to satisfy the lusts of men. <br>
They say they are priestesses, sworn to Bacchus,<br>
but it's clearly Aphrodite they adore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/bacchae0000euri_p3z6/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22deserted+their+homes%22">Robertson</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Women have forsaken their homes. It’s a front, it’s a fake, a false Bacchic rite, an excuse for them to cavort in the mountain’s shade, dancing to honor this "new god" Dionysus.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Whoever <i>that</i> is. Whoever he <i>really</i> is.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I hear they’ve got casks of wine up there, full to the brim, just sitting there in the midst of their frolicking. And that they sneak off into secluded corners, servicing men, excusing it as a sacred thing, a Maenad’s ritual.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If it <i>is</i> a ritual, it’s to Aphrodite, not this Bacchus of theirs.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://the-mercurian.com/2019/12/13/the-bacchae/#:~:text=women%20have%20forsaken,Bacchus%20of%20theirs.">Pauly</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How our women<br>
had run off<br>
to celebrate<br>
perferse rites<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in the mountains,<br>
roaming about with this<br>
brand new god, Dionysus --<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;whoever he is.<br>
Everywhere<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in the midst of their revels<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;stand full wine bowls.<br>
And women slink off<br>
one by one<br>
to copulate<br>
with any man<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;who happens by.<br>
They pretend to be Maenads, priestesses.<br>
It's Aphrodite,<br>
not Bacchus,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;they worship.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bacchae_of_Euripides/UmCTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22how%20our%20women%22">Behr/Foster</a> (2019)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Our women have left our homes in contrived Bacchic rites, and rush about in the shadowy mountains, honoring with <i>khoroi</i> this new <i>daimōn</i> Dionysus, whoever he is. I hear that mixing-bowls stand full in the midst of their assemblies, and that each woman, flying to secrecy in different directions, yields to the embraces of men, on the pretext that they are Maenads worshipping. They consider Aphrodite of greater priority than Dionysus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://chs.harvard.edu/primary-source/euripides-bacchae-sb/#:~:text=our%20women%20have,priority%20than%20Dionysus.">Buckley/Sens/Nagy</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Yevtushenko, Yevgeny -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Translation is like a woman. If it is beautiful, it is not faithful. If it is faithful, it is most certainly not beautiful. Also attributed to Edmond Jaloux and Tahar Ben Jelloun.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Translation is like a woman. If it is beautiful, it is not faithful. If it is faithful, it is most certainly not beautiful.</p>
<br><b>Yevgeny Yevtushenko</b> (1933-2017) Russian poet, writer, film director, academic [Евге́ний Евтуше́нко, Evgenij Evtušenko]<br>(Attributed) 
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Also attributed to Edmond Jaloux and Tahar Ben Jelloun.						</span>
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		<title>Holland, Barbara -- One&#8217;s Company: Reflections on Living Alone, ch. 1 (1992)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For ages past, women were defined only in relation to other people, and the definition lingers: a woman may be called a wife and mother for most of her life, while a man is called a husband and father only at his funeral.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For ages past, women were defined only in relation to other people, and the definition lingers: a woman may be called a wife and mother for most of her life, while a man is called a husband and father only at his funeral.</p>
<br><b>Barbara Holland</b> (1933-2010) American author<br><i>One&#8217;s Company: Reflections on Living Alone</i>, ch. 1 (1992) 
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		<title>Friedan, Betty -- The Feminine Mystique, ch. 14 (1963)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A girl should not expect special privileges because of her sex but neither should she &#8220;adjust&#8221; to prejudice and discrimination. She must learn to compete then, not as a woman, but as a human being.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A girl should not expect special privileges because of her sex but neither should she &#8220;adjust&#8221; to prejudice and discrimination. She must learn to compete then, not as a woman, but as a human being.</p>
<br><b>Betty Friedan</b> (1921-2006) American writer, feminist, activist<br><i>The Feminine Mystique</i>, ch. 14 (1963) 
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		<title>Stanley, Jason -- How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them, ch.  2 (2018)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To many white Americans, President Obama must have been corrupt, because his very occupation of the White House was a kind of corruption of the traditional order. When women attain positions of political power usually reserved for men &#8212; or when Muslims, blacks, Jews, homosexuals, or “cosmopolitans” profit or even share the public goods of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To many white Americans, President Obama must have been corrupt, because his very occupation of the White House was a kind of corruption of the traditional order. When women attain positions of political power usually reserved for men &#8212; or when Muslims, blacks, Jews, homosexuals, or “cosmopolitans” profit or even share the public goods of a democracy, such as healthcare &#8212; that is perceived as corruption.</p>
<br><b>Jason Stanley</b> (b. 1969) American philosopher, epistemologist, academic<br><i>How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them</i>, ch.  2 (2018) 
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		<title>Macaulay, Rose -- &#8220;Some Problems of a Woman&#8217;s Life,&#8221; Good Housekeeping (Aug 1923)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A tradition has now for long been established that cooking and cleaning are woman&#8217;s work. As these occupations are among the most tiresome which humanity has to endure, this tradition is very unfortunate for women. But there it is; and the problem is how to get what is needful done as rapidly as possible, so [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">A tradition has now for long been established that cooking and cleaning are woman&#8217;s work. As these occupations are among the most tiresome which humanity has to endure, this tradition is very unfortunate for women.  But there it is; and the problem is how to get what is needful done as rapidly as possible, so that one can go and do something else, more lucrative, interesting, or amusing.<br />
<span class="tab">The general rule is that there must be something to eat at stated intervals, and the house or the flat must be about as clean as the houses and flats of one’s acquaintances. It sounds simple, but actually to secure both these results will often be found to take the entire time. All the time that there is. And that is so tragically little. None left over for reading, writing, walking, sitting in woods, playing games, making love, merely existing without effort. And ever at your back you hear Time’s winged chariot hurrying near &#8230; and so the grave yawns, and at the end you will be able to say, not &#8220;I have warmed both hands before the fire of life,&#8221; but &#8220;I have kept house.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">The only solution of this problem which I can suggest &#8212; and I almost hesitate to do in these pages &#8212; is, Do <em>not</em> keep house. Let the house, or flat, go unkept. Let it go to the devil, and see what happens when it has gone there. At the worst, a house unkempt cannot be so distressing as a life unlived.</p>
<br><b>Rose Macaulay</b> (1881-1958) English writer<br>&#8220;Some Problems of a Woman&#8217;s Life,&#8221; <i>Good Housekeeping</i> (Aug 1923) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="http://www.avocadosweet.com/some-problems-of-a-womans-life-rose-macaulay-1923/" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Hesse, Monica -- &#8220;The &#8216;Billy Graham rule&#8217; doesn’t honor your wife,&#8221; Washington Post (11 Jul 2019)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rules like these don’t honor your wife. They just presume that your marriage vows are so flimsy that you can’t be trusted to uphold them unless a babysitter monitors you. It’s rather like a thief sanctimoniously announcing that he brings a parole officer every time he goes to the bank to make sure he doesn’t [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rules like these don’t honor your wife. They just presume that your marriage vows are so flimsy that you can’t be trusted to uphold them unless a babysitter monitors you. It’s rather like a thief sanctimoniously announcing that he brings a parole officer every time he goes to the bank to make sure he doesn’t rob it. Good for you, dude, for knowing your own limitations &#8212; but it doesn’t make you better than the rest of us, who manage to regularly not steal things even when we’re completely alone.</p>
<br><b>Monica Hesse</b> (b. c. 1981) American author, journalist, columnist<br>&#8220;The &#8216;Billy Graham rule&#8217; doesn’t honor your wife,&#8221; <i>Washington Post</i> (11 Jul 2019) 
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		<title>Pinker, Steven -- The Blank Slate, Part 5, ch. 18 (2002)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is, in fact, no incompatibility between the principles of feminism and the possibility that men and women are not psychologically identical. To repeat: equality is not the empirical claim that all groups of humans are interchangeable; it is the moral principle that individuals should not be judged or constrained by the average properties of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is, in fact, no incompatibility between the principles of feminism and the possibility that men and women are not psychologically identical. To repeat: equality is not the empirical claim that all groups of humans are interchangeable; it is the moral principle that individuals should not be judged or constrained by the average properties of their group. In the case of gender, the barely defeated Equal Rights Amendment put it succinctly: &#8220;Equality of Rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of sex.&#8221; If we recognize this principle, no one has to spin myths about the indistinguishability of the sexes to justify equality. Nor should anyone invoke sex differences to justify discriminatory policies or to hector women into doing what they don&#8217;t want to do.</p>
<br><b>Steven Pinker</b> (b. 1954) Canadian-American cognitive psychologist, linguist, author<br><i>The Blank Slate</i>, Part 5, ch. 18 (2002) 
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		<title>Friday, Nancy -- My Mother/My Self (1977)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because society would rather we always wore a pretty face, women have been trained to cut off anger.</p>
<br><b>Nancy Friday</b> (1933-2017) American author and feminist<br><i>My Mother/My Self</i> (1977) 
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		<title>Sophocles -- Antigone, l.  679ff [Creon] (441 BC) [tr. Donaldson (1848)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And power must ne&#8217;er be yielded to a woman. For if we must succumb, &#8217;twere better far To crouch before a man; and thus at least No one could taunt us with a woman&#8217;s rule. Alternate translations: And yield to title to a woman&#8217;s will. Better, if needs be, men should cast us out Than [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And power must ne&#8217;er be yielded to a woman.<br />
For if we must succumb, &#8217;twere better far<br />
To crouch before a man; and thus at least<br />
No one could taunt us with a woman&#8217;s rule.</p>
<br><b>Sophocles</b> (496-406 BC) Greek tragic playwright<br><i>Antigone</i>, l.  679ff [Creon] (441 BC) [tr. Donaldson (1848)] 
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<blockquote>And yield to title to a woman's will.<br>
Better, if needs be, men should cast us out<br>
Than hear it said, a woman proved his match.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31/31-h/31-h.htm#linkantigone:~:text=And%20yield%20to%20title%20to%20a,said%2C%20a%20woman%20proved%20his%20match.">Campbell</a> (1873)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And not go down before a woman's will.<br>
Else, if I fall, 'twere best a man should strike me;<br>
Lest one should say, 'a woman worsted him.'<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.loyalbooks.com/download/text/Electra-Sophocles.txt#:~:text=And%20not%20go%20down%20before%20a,should%20say%2C%20'a%20woman%20worsted%20him.'">Storr</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And in no way can we let a woman defeat us. It is better to fall from power, if it is fated, by a man's hand, than that we be called weaker than women.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0186%3Acard%3D631#text_main:~:text=and%20in%20no%20way%20can%20we,we%20be%20called%20weaker%20than%20women.">Jebb</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

 




<blockquote>We will not yield<br>
To a weak woman; if we must submit,<br>
At least we will be conquered by a man,<br>
Nor by a female arm thus fall inglorious.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/7HVQAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22we%20will%20not%20yield%22">Werner</a> (1892)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>In no wise suffer a woman to worst us. Better to fall from power, if we must, by a man's hand; then we should not be called weaker than a woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Sophocles_(Jebb_1917)/Antigone#pageindex_161:~:text=in%20no%20wise%20suffer%20a%20woman,be%20called%20weaker%20than%20a%20woman.">Jebb</a> (1917)]</blockquote><br>



 


<blockquote>And no woman shall seduce us. If we must lose,<br>
Let's lose to a man, at least! Is a woman stronger than we?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://mthoyibi.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/antigone_2.pdf">Fitts/Fitzgerald</a> (1939), ll. 539-40]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>... not let myself be beaten by a woman.<br>
Better, if it must happen, that a man<br>
should overset me.<br>
I won't be called weaker than womankind.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/docs/SOPHOCLES_ANTIGONE_(AS08).PDF">Wyckoff</a> (1954)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>We must not be<br>
Defeated by a woman. Better far<br>
Be overthrown, if need be, by a man<br>
Than to be called the victim of a woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone_Oedipus_the_King_Electra/I9Ely1BXWAQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR2&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22defeated%20by%20a%20woman%22">Kitto</a> (1962)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Never let some woman triumph over us.<br>
Better to fall from power, if fall we must,<br>
at the hands of a man -- never be rated<br>
inferior to a woman, never.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.olma.org/ourpages/auto/2013/9/5/51879406/Antigone.pdf">Fagles</a> (1982)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>And there must be no surrender to a woman.<br>
No! If we call, better a man should take us down.<br>
Never say that a woman bested us!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Antigone/4180HoH81RgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22better%20a%20man%22">Woodruff</a> (2001), l. 669 ff]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Defeat by a woman must never happen. <br>
It is better, if it is bound to happen, to be expelled by a man. <br>
We could not be called "defeated by women" -- could not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://diotima-doctafemina.org/translations/greek/sophocles-antigone/#post-1273:~:text=Defeat%20by%20a%20woman%20must%20never,be%20called%20%E2%80%9Cdefeated%20by%20women%E2%80%9D%E2%80%93could%20not">Tyrell/Bennett</a> (2002), l. 678ff]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Under no circumstances must he allow a woman to defeat him. It would be best -- if needs be -- to be defeated by a man, rather then allow it to be said that women have taken over.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Greek/Antigone.php">Theodoridis</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

 




<blockquote>And never let some woman beat us down.<br>
If we must fall from power, let that come<br>
at some man's hand -- at least, we won't be called<br>
inferior to any woman.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://johnstoi.web.viu.ca//sophocles/antigone.htm#:~:text=and%20never%20let%20some%20woman%20beat,inferior%20to%20any%20woman">Johnston</a> (2005), l. 770ff] </blockquote>




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		<title>Gregory of Nazianzus -- Oration 37, sec. 7 [tr. Browne &#038; Swallow]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How then do you demand Chastity, while thou dost not yourself observe it? How do you demand that which thou dost not give? How, though you are equally a body, do you legislate unequally? If you enquire into the worse &#8212; the Woman sinned, and so did Adam. The serpent deceived them both; and one [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How then do you demand Chastity, while thou dost not yourself observe it? How do you demand that which thou dost not give? How, though you are equally a body, do you legislate unequally? If you enquire into the worse &#8212; the Woman sinned, and so did Adam. The serpent deceived them both; and one was not found to be the stronger and the other the weaker. But do you consider the better? Christ saves both by His Passion. Was He made flesh for the Man? So He was also for the woman. Did He die for the Man? The Woman also is saved by His death. He is called of the seed of David; and so perhaps you think the Man is honoured; but He is born of a Virgin, and this is on the Woman&#8217;s side. They two, He says, shall be one Flesh; so let the one flesh have equal honour.</p>
<br><b>Gregory of Nazianzus</b> (329-390) Byzantine prelate, Doctor of the Church, saint, rhetorician [Γρηγόριος ὁ Ναζιανζηνός; Gregory the Theologian]<br>Oration 37, sec. 7 [tr. Browne &#038; Swallow] 
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		<title>Mannes, Marya -- Out of My Time (1971)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A critical, strong speech made by a man is &#8220;blunt&#8221; or &#8220;outspoken&#8221; or &#8220;pulls no punches.&#8221; A speech of similar force and candor made by a woman is &#8220;waspish,&#8221; &#8220;sarcastic,&#8221; or &#8220;cutting.&#8221; A man of strong opinions is defined as having &#8220;deep convictions.&#8221; A woman so constituted is merely &#8220;opinionated,&#8221; and always &#8220;aggressive.&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A critical, strong speech made by a man is &#8220;blunt&#8221; or &#8220;outspoken&#8221; or &#8220;pulls no punches.&#8221; A speech of similar force and candor made by a woman is &#8220;waspish,&#8221; &#8220;sarcastic,&#8221; or &#8220;cutting.&#8221; A man of strong opinions is defined as having &#8220;deep convictions.&#8221; A woman so constituted is merely &#8220;opinionated,&#8221; and always &#8220;aggressive.&#8221; </p>
<br><b>Marya Mannes</b> (1904-1990) American author and critic [pen name "Sec"]<br><i>Out of My Time</i> (1971) 
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		<title>L'Enclos, Ninon de -- The Memoirs of Ninon de L’Enclos, Vol. 1, “Life and Character” (1761)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How unhappy are women! Their own sex their most inveterate enemy. An husband tyrannizes; a lover dishonors and despises them. Watched on all sides, thwarted in all things; ever in fear and in constraint; without support or succour; with a number of lovers but not one friend. Is it then to be wondered at that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How unhappy are women! Their own sex their most inveterate enemy. An husband tyrannizes; a lover dishonors and despises them. Watched on all sides, thwarted in all things; ever in fear and in constraint; without support or succour; with a number of lovers but not one friend. Is it then to be wondered at that they should become a compound of humor, dissimulation, and caprice?</p>
<br><b>Anne "Ninon" de l'Enclos</b> (1620-1705) French author, courtesan, patron of the arts [Ninon de Lenclos, Ninon de Lanclos]<br><i>The Memoirs of Ninon de L’Enclos</i>, Vol. 1, “Life and Character” (1761) 
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		<title>Shear, Marie -- &#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; New Directions for Women (May/Jun 1986)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesbian: Any uppity woman, regardless of sexual preference. If they don&#8217;t call you a lesbian, you&#8217;re probably not accomplishing anything.</p>
<br><b>Marie Shear</b> (1940-2017) American writer and feminist activist<br>&#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; <i>New Directions for Women</i> (May/Jun 1986) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male supremacy: Doctrine built upon three forms of superiority: the ability to grow a handlebar mustache, the ability to answer most of Nature&#8217;s calls efficiently, and the possession of pockets.</p>
<br><b>Marie Shear</b> (1940-2017) American writer and feminist activist<br>&#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; <i>New Directions for Women</i> (May/Jun 1986) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridicule: After rape, the second most powerful method of controlling women.</p>
<br><b>Marie Shear</b> (1940-2017) American writer and feminist activist<br>&#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; <i>New Directions for Women</i> (May/Jun 1986) 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pocket Envy: Women&#8217;s unfulfilled yearning for practical clothes</p>
<br><b>Marie Shear</b> (1940-2017) American writer and feminist activist<br>&#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; <i>New Directions for Women</i> (May/Jun 1986) 
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		<description><![CDATA[Makeup: Western equivalent of the veil. A daily reminder that something is wrong with women’s normal looks. A public apology.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makeup: Western equivalent of the veil. A daily reminder that something is wrong with women’s normal looks. A public apology.</p>
<br><b>Marie Shear</b> (1940-2017) American writer and feminist activist<br>&#8220;Media Watch: Celebrating Women&#8217;s Words,&#8221; <i>New Directions for Women</i> (May/Jun 1986) 
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		<title>Wright, Fanny -- Views of Society and Manners in America, Letter 23, Mar. 1820 (1821)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the condition of women affords, in all countries, the best criterion by which to judge the character of men.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the condition of women affords, in all countries, the best criterion by which to judge the character of men. </p>
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<br><b>Frances "Fanny" Wright</b> (1795-1852) Scottish-American writer, lecturer, social reformer<br><i>Views of Society and Manners in America</i>, Letter 23, Mar. 1820 (1821) 
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		<title>Kennedy, Florynce -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are very few jobs that actually require a penis or vagina. All other jobs should be open to everybody. Quoted in Ms. (Mar 1973). Also attributed to Gloria Steinem, though Steinem has attributed the quote to Kennedy.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are very few jobs that actually require a penis or vagina. All other jobs should be open to everybody.</p>
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<br><b>Florynce "Flo" Kennedy</b> (1916-2000) American lawyer, feminist, civil rights activist<br>(Attributed) 
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Quoted in <i>Ms.</i> (Mar 1973). Also attributed to Gloria Steinem, though Steinem has <a href="http://www.msmagazine.com/summer2011/verbalkarate.asp">attributed</a> the quote to Kennedy.						</span>
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		<title>Kennedy, Florynce -- Speech, Washington, DC (15 May 1971)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament. Quoted in Off Our Backs (24 Jun 1971). Gloria Steinem, who also used the phrase, later claimed it was said to her and Kennedy by an &#8220;old Irish woman taxi driver&#8221; in Boston, but she attributed it at other times to Kennedy herself. More info [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.</p>
<br><b>Florynce "Flo" Kennedy</b> (1916-2000) American lawyer, feminist, civil rights activist<br>Speech, Washington, DC (15 May 1971) 
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Quoted in <i>Off Our Backs</i> (24 Jun 1971). Gloria Steinem, who also used the phrase, later claimed it was said to her and Kennedy by an "old Irish woman taxi driver" in Boston, but she attributed it at other times to Kennedy herself. More info <a href="http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/09/11/men-pregnant/">here</a>.						</span>
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		<title>Bronte, Anne -- The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Preface (1848)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[All novels are, or should be, written for both men and women to read, and I am at loss to conceive how a man should permit himself to write anything that would be really disgraceful to a woman, or why a woman should be censured for writing anything that would be proper and becoming for [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All novels are, or should be, written for both men and women to read, and I am at loss to conceive how a man should permit himself to write anything that would be really disgraceful to a woman, or why a woman should be censured for writing anything that would be proper and becoming for a man.</p>
<br><b>Anne Brontë</b> (1820-1849) British novelist, poet [pseud. Acton Bell]<br><i>The Tenant of Wildfell Hall</i>, Preface (1848) 
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		<title>Lorde, Audre -- &#8220;An Open Letter to Mary Daly&#8221; (6 May 1979)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The oppression of women knows no ethnic nor racial boundaries, true, but that does not mean it is identical within those boundaries.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oppression of women knows no ethnic nor racial boundaries, true, but that does not mean it is identical within those boundaries.</p>
<br><b>Audre Lorde</b> (1934-1992) American writer, feminist, civil rights activist<br>&#8220;An Open Letter to Mary Daly&#8221; (6 May 1979) 
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		<title>LeBon, Gustave -- Revue d&#8217;Anthropologie (1879)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a large number of women whose brains are closer in size to the gorillas than to the most developed male brains. This inferiority is so obvious that no one can contest it for a moment; only its degree is worth discussion. All psychologists who have studied the intelligence of women &#8230; recognize today [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a large number of women whose brains are closer in size to the gorillas than to the most developed male brains. This inferiority is so obvious that no one can contest it for a moment; only its degree is worth discussion. All psychologists who have studied the intelligence of women &#8230; recognize today that they represent the most inferior forms of human evolution, and that they are closer to children and savages than to an adult, civilized man. </p>
<br><b>Gustave LeBon</b> (1841-1931) German psychologist<br><i>Revue d&#8217;Anthropologie</i> (1879) 
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		<title>De Stael, Germaine -- Corinne, Book 14, ch. 1 (1807)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ought not every woman, like every man, to follow the bent of her own talents?]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ought not every woman, like every man, to follow the bent of her own talents?</p>
<br><b>Germaine de Staël</b> (1766-1817) Swiss-French writer, woman of letters, critic, salonist [Anne Louise Germaine de Staël-Holstein, Madame de Staël, Madame Necker]<br><i>Corinne</i>, Book 14, ch. 1 (1807) 
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		<title>Tuchman, Barbara -- A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century, ch. 9 (1978)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theology being the work of males, original sin was traced to the female.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theology being the work of males, original sin was traced to the female.</p>
<br><b>Barbara W. Tuchman</b> (1912-1989) American historian and author<br><i>A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century</i>, ch. 9 (1978) 
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		<title>Roosevelt, Eleanor -- Column (1941-10), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; Ladies&#8217; Home Journal, Vol. 58</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever said to yourself, &#8220;If only I were a man&#8221;? Or are you quite content with being a woman? No, I have never wanted to be a man. I have often wanted to be more effective as a woman, but I have never felt that trousers would do the trick! (Source (Alternate))]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever said to yourself, &#8220;If only I were a man&#8221;? Or are you quite content with being a woman?</em></p>
<p>No, I have never wanted to be a man. I have often wanted to be more effective as a woman, but I have never felt that trousers would do the trick!</p>
<br><b>Eleanor Roosevelt</b> (1884–1962) First Lady of the US (1933–1945), politician, diplomat, activist<br>Column (1941-10), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; <i>Ladies&#8217; Home Journal</i>, Vol. 58 
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		<title>Adams, Abigail -- Letter to John Adams (31 Mar 1776)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That your Sex are Naturally Tyrannical is a Truth so thoroughly established as to admit of no dispute, but such of you as wish to be happy willingly give up the harsh title of Master for the more tender and endearing one of Friend. Why, then, not put it out of the power of the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That your Sex are Naturally Tyrannical is a Truth so thoroughly established as to admit of no dispute, but such of you as wish to be happy willingly give up the harsh title of Master for the more tender and endearing one of Friend. Why, then, not put it out of the power of the vicious and the Lawless to use us with cruelty and indignity with impunity? Men of Sense in all Ages abhor those customs which treat us only as the vassals of your sex; regard us then as Beings placed by Providence under your protection, and in imitation of the Supreme Being make use of that power only for our happiness.</p>
<br><b>Abigail Adams</b> (1744-1818) American correspondent, First Lady (1797-1801)<br>Letter to John Adams (31 Mar 1776) 
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		<title>Sayers, Dorothy -- &#8220;The Human-Not-Quite-Human,&#8221; Unpopular Opinions (1947)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably no man has ever troubled to imagine how strange his life would appear to himself if it were unrelentingly assessed in terms of his maleness; if everything he wore, said, or did had to be justified by reference to female approval; if he were compelled to regard himself, day in and day out, not [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably no man has ever troubled to imagine how strange his life would appear to himself if it were unrelentingly assessed in terms of his maleness; if everything he wore, said, or did had to be justified by reference to female approval; if he were compelled to regard himself, day in and day out, not as a member of society, but merely <i>(salvâ reverentiâ)</i> as a virile member of society.</p>
<br><b>Dorothy Sayers</b> (1893-1957) English author, translator<br>&#8220;The Human-Not-Quite-Human,&#8221; <i>Unpopular Opinions</i> (1947) 
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Reprinted in her <em>Are Women Human?</em> (1971).						</span>
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		<title>Stowe, Harriet Beecher -- The Pearl of Orr&#8217;s Island (1862)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the old times, women did not get their lives written, though I don&#8217;t doubt many of them were much better worth writing than the men&#8217;s.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the old times, women did not get their lives written, though I don&#8217;t doubt many of them were much better worth writing than the men&#8217;s.</p>
<br><b>Harriet Beecher Stowe</b> (1811-1896) American author<br><i>The Pearl of Orr&#8217;s Island</i> (1862) 
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		<title>Buck, Pearl S. -- To My Daughters, with Love, ch. 15 &#8220;Men and Women&#8221; (1967)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To serve is beautiful, but only if it is done with joy and a whole heart and a free mind.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To serve is beautiful, but only if it is done with joy and a whole heart and a free mind.</p>
<br><b>Pearl S. Buck</b> (1892-1973) American writer<br><i>To My Daughters, with Love</i>, ch. 15 &#8220;Men and Women&#8221; (1967) 
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		<title>Johnson, Lyndon -- Speech (1962-06-05), Commencement, National Cathedral School for Girls, Washington, D.C.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We live amid falling taboos. In our crowded little hour of history we have seen how the prejudice of religion no longer can bar the way to the White House. Some of you may live to see the day when the prejudice of sex no longer places the Presidency beyond the reach of a greatly [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live amid falling taboos. In our crowded little hour of history we have seen how the prejudice of religion no longer can bar the way to the White House. Some of you may live to see the day when the prejudice of sex no longer places the Presidency beyond the reach of a greatly gifted American lady. Long before them, I hope you will see a woman member of the Supreme Court of the United States. In Congress and in our State Legislatures we need more women to bring their sensitive experience to the shaping of our decisions.</p>
<br><b>Lyndon B. Johnson</b> (1908-1973) American politician, educator, US President (1963-69)<br>Speech (1962-06-05), Commencement, National Cathedral School for Girls, Washington, D.C. 
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Speaking on the occasion of his daughter, Linda Bird Johnson, graduating. Entered into the Congressional Record on 6 June.  (He would similarly speak there at the graduation of his other daughter, Luci Baines Johnson (1965-06-01)).

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		<title>Roosevelt, Theodore -- Essay (1916-05), &#8220;The Parasite Woman: The Only Indispensable Citizen,&#8221; Metropolitan Magazine, Vol. 43, No.  6</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of all species of silliness the silliest is the assertion sometimes made that the woman whose primary lifework is taking care of her home and children is somehow a &#8220;parasite woman.&#8221; It is such a ridiculous in version of the truth that it ought not to be necessary even to allude to it. Collected in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all species of silliness the silliest is the assertion sometimes made that the woman whose primary lifework is taking care of her home and children is somehow a &#8220;parasite woman.&#8221; It is such a ridiculous in version of the truth that it ought not to be necessary even to allude to it.</p>
<br><b>Theodore Roosevelt</b> (1858–1919) American politician, statesman, conservationist, writer, US President (1901–1909)<br>Essay (1916-05), &#8220;The Parasite Woman: The Only Indispensable Citizen,&#8221; <i>Metropolitan</i> Magazine, Vol. 43, No.  6 
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Foes_of_Our_Own_Household/EqUZAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22species%20of%20silliness%22">Collected</a> in his <i>The Foes of Our Own Household</i>, ch. 11 (1917).
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		<title>Ivins, Molly -- Essay (1987-09-11), &#8220;We the People,&#8221; Texas Observer</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, there’s not a thing wrong with the ideals and mechanisms outlined and the liberties set forth in the Constitution of the United States. The only problem was, the founders left a lot of people out of the Constitution. They left out poor people and black people and female people. It is possible [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, there’s not a thing wrong with the ideals and mechanisms outlined and the liberties set forth in the Constitution of the United States. The only problem was, the founders left a lot of people out of the Constitution. They left out poor people and black people and female people. It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. And it still goes on today.</p>
<br><b>Molly Ivins</b> (1944-2007) American writer, political columnist [Mary Tyler Ivins]<br>Essay (1987-09-11), &#8220;We the People,&#8221; <i>Texas Observer</i> 
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Collected in <i>Molly Ivins Can't Say That, Can She?</i> (1991).<br><br>
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		<title>Euripides -- Hecuba [Hekabe; Ἑκάβη], l. 1177ff (c. 424 BC) [tr. Sheppard (1924)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[POLYMESTOR: What need For talk? The sum of all the infamies The tongues of men, past, present, and to come, Ascribe to woman, I&#8217;ll endorse, and say There&#8217;s no such monster bred on land or sea; And none has dealings with their kind, but know it. ΠΟΛΥΜΉΣΤΩΡ: [ὡς δὲ μὴ μακροὺς τείνω λόγους, εἴ τις [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">POLYMESTOR: <span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">What need<br />
For talk? The sum of all the infamies<br />
The tongues of men, past, present, and to come,<br />
Ascribe to woman, I&#8217;ll endorse, and say<br />
There&#8217;s no such monster bred on land or sea;<br />
And none has dealings with their kind, but know it.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="hangingindent">ΠΟΛΥΜΉΣΤΩΡ: [ὡς δὲ μὴ μακροὺς τείνω λόγους,<br />
εἴ τις γυναῖκας τῶν πρὶν εἴρηκεν κακῶς<br />
ἢ νῦν λέγων ἔστιν τις ἢ μέλλει λέγειν,<br />
1180ἅπαντα ταῦτα συντεμὼν ἐγὼ φράσω:<br />
γένος γὰρ οὔτε πόντος οὔτε γῆ τρέφει<br />
τοιόνδ᾽: ὁ δ᾽ αἰεὶ ξυντυχὼν ἐπίσταται.]</p>
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<br><b>Euripides</b> (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist<br><i>Hecuba</i> [Hekabe; Ἑκάβη], l. 1177ff (c. 424 BC) [tr. Sheppard (1924)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b290571&seq=60&q1=%22sum+of+all+the+infamies%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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King Polymestor -- who murdered Priam and Hecuba's youngest son, Polydorus, with him for safekeeping, in order to steal the Trojan treasury also entrusted to him -- complaining to Agamemnon about how Hecuba and the Trojan Women, out of revenge, killed <i>his</i> sons in turn and blinded him.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0097%3Acard%3D1145#:~:text=%E1%BD%A1%CF%82%20%CE%B4%E1%BD%B2%20%CE%BC%E1%BD%B4,%CE%BE%CF%85%CE%BD%CF%84%CF%85%CF%87%E1%BD%BC%CE%BD%20%E1%BC%90%CF%80%CE%AF%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9.">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations: <br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To spare a long harangue.<br>
The whole of what 'gainst woman hath been said<br>
By those of antient times, is saying now.<br>
Or shall be said hereafter, in few words<br>
Will I comprise; nor ocean's waves, nor earth,<br>
Nurture so vile a race, as he who most<br>
Hath with the sex conversed, but knows too well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/nineteentragedi01wodhgoog/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22spare+along+harangue%22">Wodhull</a> (1809)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But that I may not extend my speech to a greater length, if any one of those of ancient times hath reviled women, or if any one doth now, or shall hereafter revile them, I will comprise the whole when I say, that such a race neither doth the sea nor the earth produce, but he who is always with them knows it best.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://topostext.org/work/38#:~:text=But%20that%20I,knows%20it%20best.">Edwards</a> (1826)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">To be brief,<br> 
If any in past times with severe taunts <br>
Have censured women, if now any vents <br>
His obloquies, or shall hereafter vent, <br>
In one brief sentence I comprise the whole, <br>
It is a breed, not all th’ extended earth, <br>
Nor the sea’s ample depths produce the like; <br>
This truth he feels the most who knows them best.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://archive.org/details/beautifulthough02unkngoog/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22If+any+in+past+times%22">Ramage</a> (1864)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Wherefore needeth many words?<br>
Whoso ere now hath spoken ill of women,<br>
Or speaketh now, or shall hereafter speak,<br>
All this in one word will I close and say: --<br>
Nor sea nor land doth nurture such a breed:<br>
He knoweth, who hath converse with them most.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tragedies_of_Euripides_(Way)/Hecuba#:~:text=Wherefore%20needeth%20many,with%20them%20most.">Way</a> (Loeb) (1894)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But to spare you a lengthy speech, if any of the men of former times have spoken ill of women, if any does so now, or shall do so hereafter, I will say all this in one short sentence; for neither land or sea produces such a race, as whoever has had to do with them knows.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0098%3Acard%3D1145#:~:text=But%20to%20spare%20you%20a%20lengthy%20speech%2C%20if%20any%20of%20the%20men%20of%20former%20times%20have%20spoken%20ill%20of%20women%2C%20if%20any%20does%20so%20now%2C%20or%20shall%20do%20so%20hereafter%2C%20%5B1180%5D%20I%20will%20say%20all%20this%20in%20one%20short%20sentence%3B%20for%20neither%20land%20or%20sea%20produces%20such%20a%20race%2C%20as%20whoever%20has%20had%20to%20do%20with%20them%20knows.">Coleridge</a> (1938)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">On behalf of all those dead<br>
who learned their hatred of women long ago,<br>
for those who hate them now, for those unborn<br>
who shall live to hate them yet, I now declare<br>
my firm conviction: <br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">neither earth nor ocean<br>
produces a creature as savage and monstrous<br>
as woman.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">This is my experience. <br>
I know that this is true.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/euripidesiiihecu00euri/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22on+behalf+of+all+those%22">Arrowsmith</a> (1958)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I'll say no more than this:<br>
The old saying is true now<br>
As ever was and will be. <br>
They are a breed apart<br>
On earth and on sea. <br>
Any man in a woman's power<br>
He knows that in his bones.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hecuba/mRZLAQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ill%20say%20%20no%20more%20than%20this%22">McGuinness</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not to go on too long, if any man in the past, the present or the future said bad things about women, let me top them all and say: sea or land breeds nothing worse. Even a brief encounter proves it true.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hecuba/94JBBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20to%20go%20on%22">Harrison</a> (2005)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But let me spare you the many words: If any of the men from olden days or if any of them now, or in the future, will utter ill words against women, let me put all those words in one short sentence: Neither land nor sea produces such a race and whoever had any dealings with them knows this very well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bacchicstage.wordpress.com/euripides/hekabe-aka-hecuba/#:~:text=But%20let%20me%20spare%20you%20the%20many%20words%3A%20If%20any%20of%20the%20men%20from%20olden%20days%20or%20if%20any%20of%20them%20now%2C%20or%20in%20the%20future%2C%20will%20utter%20ill%20words%20against%20women%2C%20let%20me%20put%20all%20those%20words%20in%20one%20short%20sentence%3A%20Neither%20land%20nor%20sea%20produces%20such%20a%20race%20and%20whoever%20had%20any%20dealings%20with%20them%20knows%20this%20very%20well.">Theodoridis</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let me tell you, if anyone in the past has spoken<br>
ill of women, or speaks so now or will speak so<br>
in the future, I’ll sum it up for him: Neither sea<br>
nor land has ever produced a more monstrous<br>
creature than woman. I say this for a fact.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.didaskalia.net/issues/8/32/HecubaKardanStreet.pdf#page=36">Karden/Street</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Pratchett, Terry -- Good Omens, 3. &#8220;Wednesday&#8221; (1990) [with Neil Gaiman]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most books on witchcraft will tell you that witches work naked. This is because most books on witchcraft are written by men.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most books on witchcraft will tell you that witches work naked.  This is because most books on witchcraft are written by men.</p>
<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br><i>Good Omens</i>, 3. &#8220;Wednesday&#8221; (1990) [with Neil Gaiman] 
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		<title>Stevenson, Robert Louis -- Essay (1881), &#8220;Virginibus Puerisque, Part 2&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man is a creature who lives not upon bread alone, but principally by catchwords; and the little rift between the sexes is astonishingly widened by simply teaching one set of catchwords to the girls and another to the boys. Playing off of the Biblical passages Luke 4:4 and Matthew 4:4, in turn from Deuteronomy 8:3. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man is a creature who lives not upon bread alone, but principally by catchwords; and the little rift between the sexes is astonishingly widened by simply teaching one set of catchwords to the girls and another to the boys.</p>
<br><b>Robert Louis Stevenson</b> (1850–1894) Scottish essayist, novelist, poet<br>Essay (1881), &#8220;Virginibus Puerisque, Part 2&#8221; 
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Playing off of the Biblical passages <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%204%3A4&version=NRSVUE">Luke 4:4</a> and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%204%3A4&version=NRSVUE">Matthew 4:4</a>, in turn from <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%208%3A3&version=NRSVUE">Deuteronomy 8:3</a>.<br><br>

First published in <i>Virginibus Puerisque and Other Papers</i>, ch. 1, part 2 (1881)						</span>
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		<title>Mankiewicz, Joseph -- Cleopatra [Agrippa] (1963) [with S. Buchman, B. Hecht, R. MacDougall]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well versed in the natural sciences and mathematics. She speaks seven languages proficiently. Were she not a woman one would consider her to be an intellectual. Speaking of the title character.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well versed in the natural sciences and mathematics.  She speaks seven languages proficiently.  Were she not a woman one would consider her to be an intellectual.</p>
<br><b>Joseph Mankiewicz</b> (1909-1993) American screenwriter, director, producer<br><i>Cleopatra</i> [Agrippa] (1963) [with S. Buchman, B. Hecht, R. MacDougall] 
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Speaking of the title character.						</span>
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		<title>Mill, John Stuart -- The Subjection of Women, ch. 1 (1869)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some will object, that a comparison cannot fairly be made between the government of the male sex and the forms of unjust power which I have adduced in illustration of it, since these are arbitrary, and the effect of mere usurpation, while it on the contrary is natural. But was there ever any domination which [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some will object, that a comparison cannot fairly be made between the government of the male sex and the forms of unjust power which I have adduced in illustration of it, since these are arbitrary, and the effect of mere usurpation, while it on the contrary is natural. But was there ever any domination which did not appear natural to those who possessed it?</p>
<br><b>John Stuart Mill</b> (1806-1873) English philosopher and economist<br><i>The Subjection of Women</i>, ch. 1 (1869) 
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