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		<title>Homer -- The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 22, l. 411ff (22.411) [Odysseus to Eurycleia] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Rieu (1946)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Restrain yourself, old dame, and gloat in silence. I’ll have no jubilation here. It is an impious thing to exult over the slain. [ἐν θυμῷ, γρηῦ, χαῖρε καὶ ἴσχεο μηδ᾽ ὀλόλυζε: οὐχ ὁσίη κταμένοισιν ἐπ᾽ ἀνδράσιν εὐχετάασθαι.] (Source (Greek)). Alternate translations: Forbear, nor shriek thus, but vent joys as loud. It is no piety to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restrain yourself, old dame, and gloat in silence. I’ll have no jubilation here. It is an impious thing to exult over the slain.</p>
<p>[ἐν θυμῷ, γρηῦ, χαῖρε καὶ ἴσχεο μηδ᾽ ὀλόλυζε:<br />
οὐχ ὁσίη κταμένοισιν ἐπ᾽ ἀνδράσιν εὐχετάασθαι.]</p>
<br><b>Homer</b> (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author<br><i>The Odyssey</i> [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 22, l. 411ff (22.411) [Odysseus to Eurycleia] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Rieu (1946)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/stream/TheOdyssey/TheOdyssey_djvu.txt#:~:text=Restrain%20yourse%20%0Aold%20dame%2C%20and%20gloat%20in%20silence.%20I%E2%80%99ll%20have%20no%20jubilation%20here.%20It%20is%3B%20%0Aimpious%20thing%20to%20exult%20over%20the%20slain." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0135%3Abook%3D22%3Acard%3D378#:~:text=%E1%BC%90%CE%BD%20%CE%B8%CF%85%CE%BC%E1%BF%B7%2C%20%CE%B3%CF%81%CE%B7%E1%BF%A6%2C%20%CF%87%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CF%81%CE%B5%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%E1%BD%B6%20%E1%BC%B4%CF%83%CF%87%CE%B5%CE%BF%20%CE%BC%CE%B7%CE%B4%E1%BE%BD%20%E1%BD%80%CE%BB%CF%8C%CE%BB%CF%85%CE%B6%CE%B5%3A">Source (Greek)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Forbear, nor shriek thus, but vent joys as loud.<br>
It is no piety to bemoan the proud.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48895/48895-h/48895-h.htm#:~:text=Forbear%2C%20nor%20shriek%20thus%2C%20but%20vent%20joys%20as%20loud">Chapman</a> (1616)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hold, said he, within<br>
Your joy, and let it not appear in vain;<br>
To glory over dead men is a sin.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/hobbes-the-english-works-vol-x-iliad-and-odyssey#:~:text=To%20glory%20over%20dead%20men%20is%20a%20sin.">Hobbes</a> (1675), l. 361ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Woman, experienced as thou art, control<br>
Indecent joy, and feast thy secret soul.<br>
To insult the dead is cruel and unjust;<br>
Fate and their crime have sunk them to the dust.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Odyssey_(Pope)/Book_XXII#:~:text=To%20insult%20the%20dead%20is%20cruel%20and%20unjust">Pope</a> (1725)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Silent exult, O ancient matron dear!<br>
Shout not, be still. Unholy is the voice<br>
Of loud thanksgiving over slaughter’d men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24269/24269-h/24269-h.htm#:~:text=Unholy%20is%20the,over%20slaughter%E2%80%99d%20men.">Cowper</a> (1792), ll. 479-480]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nurse, with a mute heart this my vengeance hail!<br>
Not holy is it o'er the slain to boast.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_tr_into_Engl_verse_by_P_S_Wo/TYMCAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=odyssey%20worsley&pg=PA241&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20slain%20to%20boast%22">Worsley</a> (1861), st. 50]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In heart, dame, joy! but hush! no wild hurrah!<br>
It is not right to vaunt o'er slaughtered men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Nearly_Literal_Translation_of_Homer_s/44YXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA389&printsec=frontcover">Bigge-Wither</a> (1869)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In thy breast<br>
Confine these transports, aged one! Be calm!<br>
Hence with all exclamations! All the joy<br>
Unhallow'd is that over a slain foe<br>
Would thus exult.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/GcQzAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA268&printsec=frontcover">Musgrave</a> (1869), l. 655ff]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Within thine own heart rejoice, old nurse, and be still, and cry not aloud; for it is an unholy thing to boast over slain men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1728/1728-h/1728-h.htm#:~:text=Within%20thine%20own%20heart%20rejoice%2C%20old%20nurse%2C%20and%20be%20still%2C%20and%20cry%20not%20aloud%3B%20for%20it%20is%20an%20unholy%20thing%20to%20boast%20over%20slain%20men.">Butcher/Lang</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rejoice in thy soul, O goodwife, and thy shout of joy refrain,<br>
For nowise is it righteous to boast above the slain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey_of_Homer/VwcOAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA412&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22boast%20above%20the%20slain%22">Morris</a> (1887)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Woman, be glad within; but hush, and make no cry. It is not right to glory in the slain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/KYlBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA355&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22glory%20in%20the%20slain%22">Palmer</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Old woman, rejoice in silence; restrain yourself, and do not make any noise about it; it is an unholy thing to vaunt over dead men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(Butler)/Book_XXII#:~:text=Old%20woman%2C%22%20said%20he%2C%20%22rejoice%20in%20silence%3B%20restrain%20yourself%2C%20and%20do%20not%20make%20any%20noise%20about%20it%3B%20it%20is%20an%20unholy%20thing%20to%20vaunt%20over%20dead%20men.">Butler</a> (1898)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In thine own heart rejoice, old dame, but refrain thyself and cry not out aloud: an unholy thing is it to boast over slain men.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0136%3Abook%3D22%3Acard%3D378#:~:text=In%20thine%20own%20heart%20rejoice%2C%20old%20dame%2C%20but%20refrain%20thyself%20and%20cry%20not%20out%20aloud%3A%20an%20unholy%20thing%20is%20it%20to%20boast%20over%20slain%20men.">Murray</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rejoice within thyself, beldam, and quietly. Keep back that throbbing cry. To make very glad over men's deaths is not proper.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/qhQAywOYz10C?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22deaths%20is%20not%20proper%22">Lawrence</a> (1932)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rejoice <br>
inwardly. No crowing aloud, old woman.<br>
To glory over slain men is no piety.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/bafQVqR6O5kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT488&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22glory%20over%20slain%22">Fitzgerald</a> (1961)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Keep your joy in your heart, old dame; stop, do not raise up <br>
the cry. It is not piety to glory so over slain men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/hmril/The%20Odyssey%20of%20Homer%2C%20translated%20by%20Richmond%20Lattimore_djvu.txt#:~:text=Keep%20your%20joy%20in%20your%20heart%2C%20old%20dame%3B%20stop%2C%20do%20not%20%0Araise%20up%20%0A%0Athe%20cry.%20It%20is%20not%20piety%20to%20glory%20so%20over%20slain%20men.">Lattimore</a> (1965)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rejoice in your heart, <br>
old woman -- peace! No cries of triumph now. <br>
It's unholy to glory over the bodies of the dead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-T2WaiIPwOMJF1pR3/Homer-The-Odyssey-Fagles_djvu.txt#:~:text=Rejoice%20in%20your%20heart%2C%20%0A%0Aold%20woman%20%E2%80%94%20peace!%20No%20cries%20of%20triumph%20now.%20%0A%0AIt%27s%20unholy%20to%20glory%20over%20the%20bodies%20of%20the%20dead.">Fagles</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rejoice in your heart, but do not cry aloud.<br>
It is unholy to gloat over the slain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Odyssey/yIFAC9r4NW0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA349&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22unholy%20to%20gloat%22">Lombardo</a> (2000), ll. 435-36]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Restrain yourself old woman, and gloat in silence. I'll have no cries of triumph here. It is an impious thing to exult over the slain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/U2Jovv1NuMsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=gloat">DCH Rieu</a> (2002)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is not a pious action to exult over slain men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/VsRjDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22it%20is%20olympian%20zeus%20himself%20who%20dispenses%20prosperity%20to%20men%22&pg=PT122&printsec=frontcover&bsq=exult">Verity</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Old woman, no! Be glad inside your heart, but do not shout. It is not pious, gloating over men who have been killed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/PpJYDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22not%20pious%22">Wilson</a> (2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Keep your joy to yourself, old woman -- don't exult aloud! It's not decent to vaunt over men that have been killed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Odyssey/BUFJDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=exult">Green</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Old woman, you can rejoice<br>
in your own heart -- but don’t cry out aloud.<br>
Restrain yourself. For it’s a sacrilege<br>
to boast above the bodies of the slain.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://johnstoniatexts.x10host.com/homer/odyssey22html.html#:~:text=Old%20woman%2C%20you%20can%20rejoice">Johnston</a> (2019), l. 509ff]</blockquote><br>
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