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		<title>Cicero, Marcus Tullius -- Philippics [Philippicae; Antonian Orations], No.  2, ch. 12 / sec.  29 (2.12/2.29) (44-10-24 BC) [tr. Berry (2006)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what difference is there between someone who urges an action before it is done and someone who applauds it afterwards? What does it matter whether I wanted it done or was pleased that it had been done?</p>
<p><em>[Quid enim interest inter suasorem facti et probatorem? Aut quid refert utrum voluerim fieri an gaudeam factum?]</em></p>
<br><b>Marcus Tullius Cicero</b> (106-43 BC) Roman orator, statesman, philosopher<br><i>Philippics [Philippicae; Antonian Orations]</i>, No.  2, ch. 12 / sec.  29 (2.12/2.29) (44-10-24 BC) [tr. Berry (2006)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Political_Speeches/woVPuN06sFsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22for%20what%20difference%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On his approval, after the fact, of Julius Caesar's assassination, though not being one of the conspirators.<br><br>

(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0011%3Atext%3DPhil.%3Aspeech%3D2%3Asection%3D29#:~:text=quid%20enim%20interest%20inter%20suasorem%20facti%20et%20probatorem%3F%20aut%20quid%20refert%20utrum%20voluerim%20fieri%20an%20gaudeam%20factum%3F">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations: <br><br>

<blockquote>For what moral difference is there between urging an action and approving of it? or what matter does it make whether I wished for the deed or rejoice that it was done?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_first_and_second_Philippic_orations/LFcCAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22crime%20to%20rejoice%22">King</a> (1877)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For what difference is there between the adviser and the approver of a deed? or what does it matter whether I wished it done, or was glad that it was done?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106005388175&seq=112&q1=%22for+what+difference+is+there%22%22">Ker</a> (Loeb) (1926)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For what is the difference between a man who has advised an action, and one who has approved of it? or what does it signify whether I wished it to be done, or rejoice that it has been done?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0021%3Aspeech%3D2%3Asection%3D29#:~:text=For%20what%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20a%20man%20who%20has%20advised%20an%20action%2C%20and%20one%20who%20has%20approved%20of%20it%3F%20or%20what%20does%20it%20signify%20whether%20I%20wished%20it%20to%20be%20done%2C%20or%20rejoice%20that%20it%20has%20been%20done%3F">Yonge</a> (1903)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What difference is there between him who instigates and him who approves the crime?<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22who%20instigates%22">Harbottle</a> (1906)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For between the man who advises an action and the man who approves when it is done there is not the slightest difference. Whether I wished the deed to be performed or am glad after its performance, is wholly immaterial.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Works_Cicero_Marcus_Tullius/7g1OF04FoW8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22man%20who%20advises%22">Grant</a> (1960)]  </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For what is the difference between someone who suggests something and someone who applauds it? What does it matter whether I wanted it done or am delighted that it was done? <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/indefenceofrepub0000cice/page/206/mode/2up?q=%22For+what+is+the+difference%22">McElduff</a> (2011)]</blockquote><br>


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