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		<title>Lewis, C.S. -- Letter to Alan Griffiths (20 Dec 1946)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still think the argument from design the weakest possible ground for Theism, and what may be called the argument from un-design the strongest for Atheism.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the argument from design the weakest possible ground for Theism, and what may be called the argument from un-design the strongest for Atheism.</p>
<br><b>C. S. Lewis</b> (1898-1963) English writer, literary scholar, lay theologian [Clive Staples Lewis]
<br>Letter to Alan Griffiths (20 Dec 1946) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="http://frederickcslewissociety.blogspot.com/p/from-essay-religion-it-sets-one.html" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Roosevelt, Eleanor -- Column (1956-08), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; McCall&#8217;s Magazine, Vol. 83</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt that anyone does not really believe in God. People may think they don&#8217;t have any belief, but you will usually find that somewhere down in a human being&#8217;s soul there is a belief in something beyond himself. In any case, I would not judge a man&#8217;s character by his belief or unbelief. I [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that anyone does not really believe in God. People may think they don&#8217;t have any belief, but you will usually find that somewhere down in a human being&#8217;s soul there is a belief in something beyond himself. In any case, I would not judge a man&#8217;s character by his belief or unbelief. I would judge his character by his deeds; and no matter what he said about his beliefs, his behavior would soon show whether he was a man of good character or bad.</p>
<br><b>Eleanor Roosevelt</b> (1884–1962) First Lady of the US (1933–1945), politician, diplomat, activist<br>Column (1956-08), &#8220;If You Ask Me,&#8221; <i>McCall&#8217;s</i> Magazine, Vol. 83 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www2.gwu.edu/~erpapers/iyam/iyam_1956_08.cfm#:~:text=I%20doubt%20that,character%20or%20bad." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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When asked, "What standards do you use to judge a man's character when you know he doesn't believe in God?"<br><br>

A <a href="https://archive.org/details/franklineleanorr0000na/page/120/mode/2up?q=%22usually+find+that+there+is+a+belief%22">slightly shortened version</a> of this is sometimes given, e.g., in Carol Kelly-Gangi (ed.), <i>Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: Their Essential Wisdom</i> (2014): "[...] People may think they don’t have any belief, but you will usually find that there is a belief in something beyond himself. [...]"						</span>
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		<title>Tuchman, Barbara -- The March of Folly: from Troy to Vietnam, ch. 2 (1984)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To search for meaning we must not forget that the gods (or God, for that matter) are a concept of the human mind; they are the creatures of man, not vice-versa. They are invented to give meaning and purpose to the puzzle that is life on earth, to explain strange and irregular phenomena of nature, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To search for meaning we must not forget that the gods (or God, for that matter) are a concept of the human mind; they are the creatures of man, not vice-versa. They are invented to give meaning and purpose to the puzzle that is life on earth, to explain strange and irregular phenomena of nature, haphazard events, and, above all, irrational human conduct. They exist to bear the burden of all the things that cannot be comprehended except by supernatural intervention or design.</p>
<br><b>Barbara W. Tuchman</b> (1912-1989) American historian and author<br><i>The March of Folly: from Troy to Vietnam</i>, ch. 2 (1984) 
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		<title>Jefferson, Thomas -- Letter (1814-06-13) to Thomas Law</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we did a good act merely from the love of god, and a belief that it is pleasing to him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? It is idle to say as some do, that no such being exists. We have the same evidence of the fact as of most of those we [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we did a good act merely from the love of god, and a belief that it is pleasing to him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? It is idle to say as some do, that no such being exists. We have the same evidence of the fact as of most of those we act on, to wit, their own affirmations, and their reasonings in support of them. I have observed indeed generally that, while in protestant countries the defections from the Platonic Christianity of the priests is to Deism, in Catholic countries they are to Atheism. Diderot, Dalembert, D’Holbach Condorcet, are known to have been among the most virtuous of men. Their virtue then must have had some other foundation than the love of god.</p>
<br><b>Thomas Jefferson</b> (1743-1826) American political philosopher, polymath, statesman, US President (1801-09)<br>Letter (1814-06-13) to Thomas Law 
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		<title>Franklin, Benjamin -- Letter to Ezra Stiles (9 Mar 1790)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my Creed: I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we can render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my Creed: I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we can render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental Principles of all sound Religion, and I regard them as you do, in whatever Sect I meet with them.</p>
<br><b>Benjamin Franklin</b> (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist, philosopher, aphorist<br>Letter to Ezra Stiles (9 Mar 1790) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.bartleby.com/400/prose/366.html#:~:text=Here%20is%20my,meet%20with%20them." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Johnson, Lyndon -- Speech (1964-02-05), Presidential Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We who hold public office are enjoined by our Constitution against enacting laws to tell the people when or where or how to pray. All our experience and all our knowledge proves that injunction is good. for, if government could ordain the people&#8217;s prayers, government could also ordain its own worship &#8212; and that must [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">We who hold public office are enjoined by our Constitution against enacting laws to tell the people when or where or how to pray.<br />
<span class="tab">All our experience and all our knowledge proves that injunction is good. for, if government could ordain the people&#8217;s prayers, government could also ordain its own worship &#8212; and that must never be.<br />
<span class="tab">The separation of church and state has served our freedom well because men of state have not separated themselves from church and faith and prayer.</span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Lyndon B. Johnson</b> (1908-1973) American politician, educator, US President (1963-69)<br>Speech (1964-02-05), Presidential Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C. 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-the-12th-annual-presidential-prayer-breakfast#:~:text=We%20who%20hold,faith%20and%20prayer." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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This was at the 12th Annual Presidential Prayer Breakfast.<br><br>

In the Proceedings of the <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Proceedings_Annual_Convention/0-pRAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=johnson+%22men+of+state+and+faith+in+the+Supreme+Being%22&dq=johnson+%22men+of+state+and+faith+in+the+Supreme+Being%22&printsec=frontcover">Illinois State AFL-CIO Convention (1968)</a>, there is (a) a reference to a note that the state president of the AFL/CIO, Reuben G. Soderstrom, attending the <em>16th</em> such Prayer Breakfast, and then (b) a passage on the next page "U. S. President Lyndon B. Johnson's statement to a tremendous audience contained the following comment:"<br><br>

<blockquote>Our Constitution separates church and state. We know that separation is a source of our system's strength, but the conscience of our nation does not call for separation between men of state and faith in the Supreme Being.</blockquote><br>

Johnson does not appear to have included this text in <a href="https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-the-presidential-prayer-breakfast-3">his speech at the 16th Presidential Prayer Breakfast</a>, nor does he appear to have gone to the 1968 Illinois AFL/CIO convention. Is this an odd paraphrase of the comments from four years earlier? Did Johnson speak the above in another venue that was also quoted in the Illinois AFL/CIO Convention proceedings? Is this paraphrase actually what he said in 1964, regardless of the written record of his comments?<br><br>

While that shorter quote, or further paraphrases of it, are easy to find in quotation collections online, I can find no citation associated with it.<br><br>						</span>
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		<title>Jobs, Steve -- (Attrbuted)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes I don’t. I think it’s 50-50 maybe. But ever since I&#8217;ve had cancer, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it more. And I find myself believing a bit more. I kind of &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s ’cause I want to believe in an afterlife. That when you die, it doesn&#8217;t just all [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes I don’t. I think it’s 50-50 maybe. But ever since I&#8217;ve had cancer, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it more. And I find myself believing a bit more. I kind of &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s ’cause I want to believe in an afterlife. That when you die, it doesn&#8217;t just all disappear. The wisdom you&#8217;ve accumulated. Somehow it lives on, but sometimes I think it&#8217;s just like an on-off switch. Click and you’re gone. And that’s why I don’t like putting on-off switches on Apple devices.</p>
<br><b>Steve Jobs</b> (1955-2011) American computer inventor, entrepreneur<br>(Attrbuted) 
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Quoted by his biographer, Walter Isaacson, in a <em>60 Minutes</em> interview (Oct 2011)						</span>
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