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		<title>Horace -- Satires [Saturae, Sermones], Book 1, #  1 &#8220;Qui fit, Mæcenas,&#8221; l.  24ff (1.1.24-26) (35 BC) [tr. Rudd (2005 ed.)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet what harm can there be in presenting the truth with a laugh, as teachers sometimes give their children biscuits to coax them into learning their ABC? [Quamquam ridentem dicere verum quid vetat? ut pueris olim dant crustula blandi doctores, elementa velint ut discere prima.] (Source (Latin)). Alternate translations: Toyes may kepe and staye [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And yet what harm can there be<br />
in presenting the truth with a laugh, as teachers sometimes give<br />
their children biscuits to coax them into learning their ABC?</p>
<p><em>[Quamquam ridentem dicere verum<br />
quid vetat? ut pueris olim dant crustula blandi<br />
doctores, elementa velint ut discere prima.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Horace</b> (65–8 BC) Roman poet, satirist, soldier, politician [Quintus Horatius Flaccus]<br><i>Satires [Saturae, Sermones]</i>, Book 1, #  1 <i>&#8220;Qui fit, Mæcenas,&#8221;</i> l.  24ff (1.1.24-26) (35 BC) [tr. Rudd (2005 ed.)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhoracep00hora/page/4/mode/2up?q=%22teachers+sometimes%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0062%3Abook%3D1%3Apoem%3D1#:~:text=quamquam%20ridentem%20dicere,ut%20discere%20prima">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Toyes may kepe and staye<br>
Sumtimes the reeder very well, as those that teache in schooles,<br>
With buttred bread, or featusse knacks will lewre the little fooles,<br>
To learne a pace theyr A. B. C.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A03670.0001.001/1:9.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=toyes%20may%20kepe,A.%20B.%20C%2C">Drant</a> (1567)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though to blurt out a truth has never been<br>
(In way of merriment) esteem'd a sin.<br>
The flattering Master thus his Boys presents<br>
With Cakes, to make them learn their Rudiments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44478.0001.001;node=A44478.0001.001:7;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=Though%20to%20blurt,learn%20their%20Rudiments.">A. B.</a>; ed. Brome (1666)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And <i>mirth</i> commends, and makes our Precepts take,<br>
Thus Teachers bribe their Boys with Figs and Cake<br>
To mind their books.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cc=eebo;c=eebo;idno=a44471.0001.001;node=A44471.0001.001:7;seq=1;rgn=div1;view=text#:~:text=And%20mirth%20commends,mind%20their%20books">Creech</a> (1684)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet may not truth in laughing guise be drest? <br>
As masters fondly sooth their boys to read <br>
With cakes and sweetmeats.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresepistlesi00hora/page/2/mode/2up?q=%22treat+my+subject%22">Francis</a> (1747)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Albeit why may not truth in smiles be drest,<br>
As gentle teachers lure the child to come<br>
And learn his horn-book, with a sugar plum?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epodes_Satires_and_Epistles_of_Horac/TPgDAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22albeit%20why%20may%20not%22">Howes</a> (1845)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though what hinders one being merry, while telling the truth? as good-natured teachers at first give cakes to their boys, that they may be willing to learn their first rudiments.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0063#:~:text=But%20further%2C%20that,investigate%20serious%20matters)">Smart/Buckley</a> (1853)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although what does prevent one telling truth in playful mood, as often tutors give their pupils cakes caressingly, to make them care to learn their ABC? <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhoracei00hora/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22playful+mood%22">Millington</a> (1870)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Though, for me,<br>
Why truth may not be gay, I cannot see:<br>
Just as, we know, judicious teachers coax<br>
With sugar-plum or cake their little folks<br>
To learn their alphabet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Satires,_Epistles_%26_Art_of_Poetry_of_Horace/Sat1-1#:~:text=though%2C%20for%20me,learn%20their%20alphabet">Conington</a> (1874)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What is to prevent one from telling truth as he laughs, even as teachers sometimes give cookies to children to coax them into learning their A B C?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresepistlesa00horauoft/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22what+is+to+prevent%22">Fairclough</a> (Loeb) (1926)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>And yet -- there’s no law against telling the truth with a smile.<br> 
Smart teachers, for instance, give crunchy sweets to children <br>
To make them learn their letters. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresanndepist0000hora/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22there%27s+no+law%22">Palmer Bovie</a> (1959)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But tell me what law is violated if someone laughs <br>
while speaking truth? You know how teachers sometimes give <br>
their pupils little cakes, to help them learn their ABC’s. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/horacessatiresep0000hora/page/n17/mode/2up?q=%22but+tell+me+what+law%22">Fuchs</a> (1977)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Though why can’t one tell the truth <br>
With a smile? Teachers coax children to love <br>
Learning by giving them cookies. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/essentialhoraceo0000hora/page/130/mode/2up?q=%22though+why+can%27t+one%22">Raffel</a> (1983)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although what's there to forbid one who is laughing,<br>
from telling the truth? As loving teachers sometimes<br>
hand out sweets to their pupils<br>
so that they'll want to learn their ABC's.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/completeodessati0000hora/page/190/mode/2up?q=teachers">Alexander</a> (1999)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Though what bars us<br>
from telling truths with a laugh, the way teachers<br>
sow cookies and reap memorized alphabets?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/satiresofhorace0000hora_r9g5/page/n13/mode/2up?q=%22the+way+teachers%22">Matthews</a> (2002)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Though what stops one telling the truth<br>
While smiling, as teachers often give children biscuits<br>
To try and tempt them to learn their alphabet?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkISatI.php#anchor_Toc98155350:~:text=though%20what%20stops,learn%20their%20alphabet%3F">Kline</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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