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		<title>Butler, Octavia -- Essay (2000-05), &#8220;A Few Rules for Predicting the Future,&#8221; Essence Magazine</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 07:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to understand the lies that people have to tell themselves when they either quietly or joyfully watch their neighbors ruined, spirited away, killed. Different versions of this horror have happened again and again in history. They’re still happening in places like Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor, wherever one group of people permits [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to understand the lies that people have to tell themselves when they either quietly or joyfully watch their neighbors ruined, spirited away, killed. Different versions of this horror have happened again and again in history. They’re still happening in places like Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor, wherever one group of people permits its leaders to convince them that for their own protection, for the safety of their families and the security of their country, they must get their enemies, those alien others who until now were their neighbors.</p>
<br><b>Octavia Butler</b> (1947-2006) American writer<br>Essay (2000-05), &#8220;A Few Rules for Predicting the Future,&#8221; <i>Essence</i> Magazine 
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		<title>Randi, James -- (Attributed)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 00:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first thing a cult does is tell you everyone else is lying. Very widely quoted and attributed to Randi. I cannot, however, find any evidence showing Randi actually said this, though it is plausible.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing a cult does is tell you everyone else is lying.</p>
<br><b>James Randi</b> (1928-2020) Canadian-American stage magician ("The Amazing Randi") and scientific skeptic. [b. Randall James Hamilton Zwinge]<br>(Attributed) 
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Very widely quoted and attributed to Randi. I cannot, however, find any evidence showing Randi actually said this, though it is plausible.
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		<title>Orwell, George -- Essay (1942-08), &#8220;Looking Back on the Spanish War, ch. 2, New Road (1943-06)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 15:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But what impressed me then, and has impressed me ever since, is that atrocities are believed in or disbelieved in solely on grounds of political predilection. Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what impressed me then, and has impressed me ever since, is that atrocities are believed in or disbelieved in solely on grounds of political predilection. Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence.</p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1942-08), &#8220;Looking Back on the Spanish War</i>, ch. 2, <i>New Road</i> (1943-06) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/looking-back-on-the-spanish-war/#:~:text=But%20what%20impressed%20me%20then%2C%20and%20has%20impressed%20me%20ever%20since%2C%20is%20that%20atrocities%20are%20believed%20in%20or%20disbelieved%20in%20solely%20on%20grounds%20of%20political%20predilection.%20Everyone%20believes%20in%20the%20atrocities%20of%20the%20enemy%20and%20disbelieves%20in%20those%20of%20his%20own%20side%2C%20without%20ever%20bothering%20to%20examine%20the%20evidence." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Safa, Mohamad -- Facebook (2020-08-06)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion. Frequently misattributed to Nelson Mandela. Safa also posted it on Twitter the same day, and, as it went viral (and began being misattributed), reiterated his [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.</p>
<br><b>Mohamad Safa</b> (b. 1991) Lebanese diplomat, politician<br>Facebook (2020-08-06) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.facebook.com/mhdksafa/posts/our-world-is-not-divided-by-race-color-gender-or-religion-our-world-is-divided-i/693435314568397/" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Frequently <a href="https://wist.info/mandela-nelson/77684/">misattributed to Nelson Mandela</a>.<br><br>

Safa also posted it on <a href="https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1291490665604493313?lang=en">Twitter the same day</a>, and, as it went viral (and began being misattributed), reiterated his authorship on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mhdksafa/posts/714474615797800">Facebook (2020-09-06)</a>.<br><br>

More discussion:<br><br>
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	<li><a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quote-nelson-mandela/" title="Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com">Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com</a>.</li>
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		<title>Mandela, Nelson -- (Misattributed)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion. Widely attributed to Mandela, but not found in his works or news record. It appears to actually have been said by Lebanese diplomat Mohamad Safa. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.</p>
<br><b>Nelson Mandela</b> (1918-2013) South African revolutionary, politician, statesman<br>(Misattributed) 
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Widely attributed to Mandela, but not found in his works or news record. It appears to actually have been <a href="https://wist.info/safa-mohamad/77686/">said by Lebanese diplomat Mohamad Safa</a>.<br><br>

That said, the sentiment and language aligns with other statements by Mandala, such as in a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NelsonMandelaCentreOfMemory/posts/491945300843242">speech (1999-04-16)</a> in Durban, South Africa:<br><br>

<blockquote>But let us re-affirm this one thing here today; it is not our diversity which divides us; it is not our ethnicity, or religion or culture that divides us. Since we have achieved our freedom, there can only be one division amongst us: between those who cherish democracy and those who do not.</blockquote><br>

Or a <a href="https://www.un.org/en/events/mandeladay/legacy.shtml#:~:text=We%20must%20ensure%20that%20colour%2C%20race%20and%20gender%20become%20only%20a%20God%2Dgiven%20gift%20to%20each%20one%20of%20us%20and%20not%20an%20indelible%20mark%20or%20attribute%20that%20accords%20a%20special%20status%20to%20any.">speech (1994-10-03)</a> before the United Nations General Assembly:  <br><br>

<blockquote>We must ensure that color, race and gender become only a God-given gift to each one of us and not an indelible mark or attribute that accords a special status to any.</blockquote><br>

More discussion about this quotation:<br><br>
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	<li><a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quote-nelson-mandela/" title="Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com">Is This a Real Quote by Nelson Mandela? | Snopes.com</a>.</li>
	<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-quote-on-a-divided-world-misattributed-to-nelson-mandela-idUSKBN26X1W6/" title="Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters">Fact check: Quote on a divided world misattributed to Nelson Mandela | Reuters</a>.</li>
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		<title>Watterson, Bill -- Calvin and Hobbes (1995-07-07)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 19:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CALVIN: I&#8217;m writing a fund-raising letter. The secret to getting donations is to depict everyone who disagrees with you as the enemy. Then you explain how they&#8217;re systematically working to destroy everything you hold dear. It&#8217;s a War of Values! Rational discussion is hopeless! Compromise is unthinkable! Our only hope is well-funded antagonism, so we [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="hangingindent">CALVIN: I&#8217;m writing a fund-raising letter. The secret to getting donations is to depict everyone who disagrees with you as the enemy. Then you explain how they&#8217;re systematically working to destroy everything you hold dear. It&#8217;s a War of Values! Rational discussion is hopeless! Compromise is unthinkable! Our only hope is well-funded antagonism, so we need your money to keep up the fight!</p>
<p class="hangingindent">HOBBES:  How cynically unconstructive.</p>
<p class="hangingindent">CALVIN: Enmity sells.</p>
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<br><b>Bill Watterson</b> (b. 1958) American cartoonist<br><i>Calvin and Hobbes</i> (1995-07-07) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1995/07/07" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<title>Vonnegut, Kurt, Jr. -- Breakfast of Champions, ch. 17 (1973)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascism was a fairly popular political philosophy which made sacred whatever nation and race the philosopher happened to belong to.]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascism was a fairly popular political philosophy which made sacred whatever nation and race the philosopher happened to belong to.</p>
<br><b>Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.</b> (1922-2007) American novelist, journalist<br><i>Breakfast of Champions</i>, ch. 17 (1973) 
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		<title>Commager, Henry Steele -- Interview (1970-02) by John A. Garraty, &#8220;American Nationalism,&#8221; Interpreting American History: Conversations with Historians, Part 1, ch. 4 (1970).</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If modern technology and all the tendencies of modern society make nationalism illogical, why does it persist? You might as well ask why racism flourishes in the face of scientific evidence that there are no real differences between the races, or why Protestantism and Catholicism remain separate when the differences between them can be detected [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If modern technology and all the tendencies of modern society make nationalism illogical, why does it persist?</i></p>
<p>You might as well ask why racism flourishes in the face of scientific evidence that there are no real differences between the races, or why Protestantism and Catholicism remain separate when the differences between them can be detected only by theologians. Such things are deeply rooted in the psychology of man. When you’re raised to believe in the superiority of your own country, it’s very difficult to rid yourself of the belief. There are, of course, practical advantages to national organization, and out of these loyalties develop. There’s no reason in and of itself why other institutions should not attract comparable loyalties, but so far they have not. I’m not at all sure they’d be any better.</p>
<br><b>Henry Steele Commager</b> (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist<br>Interview (1970-02) by John A. Garraty, &#8220;American Nationalism</i>,&#8221; <i>Interpreting American History: Conversations with Historians</i>, Part 1, ch. 4 (1970). 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/interpretingamer0000garr/page/n133/mode/2up?q=%22racism+flourishes%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.americanheritage.com/henry-steele-commager#:~:text=You%20might%20as,be%20any%20better.">Excepted</a> in "Conversations with Historians," <i>American Heritage</i> magazine (1970-02).

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		<title>Commager, Henry Steele -- Essay (1947-09), &#8220;Who Is Loyal to America?&#8221; sec. 3, Harper&#8217;s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.</p>
<br><b>Henry Steele Commager</b> (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist<br>Essay (1947-09), &#8220;Who Is Loyal to America?&#8221; sec. 3, <i>Harper&#8217;s Magazine</i>, Vol. 195, No. 1168 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241226150242/https://alina_stefanescu.typepad.com/files/harpersmagazine-1947-09-0033019.pdf#page=6" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Regarding disloyalty tests and loyalty oaths. <a href="https://archive.org/details/freedomloyaltydi00comm/page/134/mode/2up">Reprinted</a> in <i>Freedom, Loyalty, Dissent</i> (1954).						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[History is thought of largely in nationalist terms, and such things as the Inquisition, the tortures of the Star Chamber, the exploits of the English buccaneers (Sir Francis Drake, for instance, who was given to sinking Spanish prisoners alive), the Reign of Terror, the heroes of the Mutiny blowing hundreds of Indians from the guns, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History is thought of largely in nationalist terms, and such things as the Inquisition, the tortures of the Star Chamber, the exploits of the English buccaneers (Sir Francis Drake, for instance, who was given to sinking Spanish prisoners alive), the Reign of Terror, the heroes of the Mutiny blowing hundreds of Indians from the guns, or Cromwell&#8217;s soldiers slashing Irishwomen&#8217;s faces with razors, become morally neutral or even meritorious when it is felt that they were done in the &#8220;right&#8221; cause. If one looks back over the past quarter of a century, one finds that there was hardly a single year when atrocity stories were not being reported from some part of the world; and yet in not one single case were these atrocities &#8212; in Spain, Russia, China, Hungary, Mexico, Amritsar, Smyrna &#8212; believed in and disapproved of by the English intelligentsia as a whole. Whether such deeds were reprehensible, or even whether they happened, was always decided according to political predilection. </p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1945-05), &#8220;Notes on Nationalism,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine (1945-10) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/#post-2792:~:text=History%20is%20thought%20of%20largely%20in,always%20decided%20according%20to%20political%20predilection." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<description><![CDATA[It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it <em>is</em> the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power-hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also &#8212; since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself &#8212; unshakably certain of being in the right. </p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1945-05), &#8220;Notes on Nationalism,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine (1945-10) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/#post-2792:~:text=But%20finally%2C%20it%20is%20important%20not,certain%20of%20being%20in%20the%20right." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<description><![CDATA[A nationalist is one who thinks solely, or mainly, in terms of competitive prestige. He may be a positive or a negative nationalist &#8212; that is, he may use his mental energy either in boosting or in denigrating &#8212; but at any rate his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs and humiliations. He sees [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nationalist is one who thinks solely, or mainly, in terms of competitive prestige. He may be a positive or a negative nationalist &#8212; that is, he may use his mental energy either in boosting or in denigrating &#8212; but at any rate his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs and  humiliations. He sees history, especially contemporary history, as the endless rise and decline of great power units, and every event that happens seems to him a demonstration that his own side is on the upgrade and some hated rival is on the downgrade.</p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1945-05), &#8220;Notes on Nationalism,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine (1945-10) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/#post-2792:~:text=A%20nationalist%20is%20one%20who%20thinks,hated%20rival%20is%20on%20the%20down%2Dgrade." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<description><![CDATA[All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage &#8212; torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians &#8212; which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by &#8216;our&#8217; side. </p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1945-05), &#8220;Notes on Nationalism,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine (1945-10) 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/#post-2792:~:text=All%20nationalists%20have%20the%20power%20of,it%20is%20committed%20by%20%E2%80%98our%E2%80%99%20side." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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		<description><![CDATA[By &#8220;nationalism&#8221; I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad.&#8221; But secondly &#8212; and this is much more important &#8212; I mean the habit of identifying oneself [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;nationalism&#8221; I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad.&#8221; But secondly &#8212; and this is much more important &#8212; I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.</p>
<br><b>George Orwell</b> (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]<br>Essay (1945-05), &#8220;Notes on Nationalism,&#8221; <i>Polemic</i> Magazine (1945-10) 
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;You&#8217;re not one of us.&#8221; &#8220;I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m one of them, either,&#8221; said Brutha. &#8220;I&#8217;m one of mine.&#8221;]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">&#8220;You&#8217;re not one of us.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m one of them, either,&#8221; said Brutha. &#8220;I&#8217;m one of mine.&#8221;</p>
<br><b>Terry Pratchett</b> (1948-2015) English author<br>Discworld No. 13, <i>Small Gods</i> [Simony] (1992) 
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