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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram   4 (1.4.7-8) (AD 85-86) [tr. Duff (1929)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Strict censure may this harmless sport endure: My page is wanton, but my life is pure. [Innocuos censura potest permittere lusus: Lasciva est nobis pagina, vita proba.] An appeal to Emperor Domitian, who became censor-for-life in AD 85. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Wantons we are; and though our words be such, Our Lives do differ [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strict censure may this harmless sport endure:<br />
My page is wanton, but my life is pure.</p>
<p><em>[Innocuos censura potest permittere lusus:<br />
Lasciva est nobis pagina, vita proba.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram   4 (1.4.7-8) (AD 85-86) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Strict%20censure%20may,life%20is%20pure." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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An appeal to Emperor Domitian, who became censor-for-life in AD 85. <br><br>

(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrammataselec00martuoft/page/4/mode/2up?q=%22vita+proba%22">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Wantons we are; and though our words be such, <br>
Our Lives do differ from our Lines by much.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22wantons+we+are%22">Herrick</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The Censor does with harmless Pastime bear;<br>
My Leaves are wanton, but my Life’s severe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22my+leaves+are%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The censorship may tolerate innocent jokes: <br>
my page indulges in freedoms, but my life is pure.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=the%20censorship%204%20may%20tolerate%20innocent%20jokes%3A%20my%20page%20indulges%20in%20freedoms%2C%20but%20my%20life%20is%20pure.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Licentious though my page, my life is pure.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22though%20my%20page%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>A censor can permit harmless trifling:<br>
wanton is my page; my life is good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA33&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From censure may my harmless mirth be free,<br>
My page is wanton but my life is clean.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n25/mode/2up?q=%22my+page+is+wanton%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Your censure well such license may endure;<br>
My page is wanton, but my life is pure.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22censure%20well%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924)] </blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The censor passes the risqué parts in a play<br>
and my pages can be very gay<br>
without my being that way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/40/mode/2up?q=%22censor+passes%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Harmless wit<br>
<span class="tab">You may, as Censor, reasonably permit:<br>
My life is strict, however lax my page.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/4/mode/2up?q=%22as+Censor%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>A censor can permit harmless jollity. My page is wanton, but my life is virtuous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=My%20page%20wanton%2C%20hut%20my%20life%20is%20virtuous.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>







<blockquote>A censor can relax, wink just one eye:<br>
My poetry is filthy -- but not I.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT19&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22poetry%20is%20filthy%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As Censor, you can exercise discretion: my jokes hurt no one; let them be. My page may be dirty, but my life is clean.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA69&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22but%20my%20life%20is%20clean%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let not these harmless sports your censure taste:<br>
My lines are wanton, but my life is chaste.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20lines%20are%20wanton%22&pg=PA26&printsec=frontcover">17th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These games are harmless, censor: let them pass.<br>
My poems play around; but not my life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP7&printsec=frontcover&bsq=censor">Elliot</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  15 (1.15.11-12) (AD 85-86) [tr. Bohn&#8217;s (1859)]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Tis not, believe me, a wise man&#8217;s part to say, &#8220;I will live.&#8221; Tomorrow&#8217;s life is too late: live today. [Non est, crede mihi, sapientis dicere &#8220;Vivam&#8221;: Sera nimis vita est crastina: vive hodie.] A sentiment echoed in 5.58. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Trust me, it is not wise to say, I&#8217;ll live; &#8217;twill be [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis not, believe me, a wise man&#8217;s part to say, &#8220;I will live.&#8221; Tomorrow&#8217;s life is too late: live today.</p>
<p><em>[Non est, crede mihi, sapientis dicere &#8220;Vivam&#8221;:<br />
Sera nimis vita est crastina: vive hodie.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  15 (1.15.11-12) (AD 85-86) [tr. Bohn&#8217;s (1859)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=%27Tis%20not%2C%20believe%20me%2C%20a%20wise%20man%27s%20part%20to%20say%2C%20%22I%20will%20live.%22%20To-morrow%27s%20life%20is%20too%20late%3A%20live%20to-day." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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A sentiment echoed in <a href="https://wist.info/martial/48378/">5.58</a>. (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=crede&la=la&can=crede0&prior=est">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Trust me, it is not wise to say,<br>
I'll live; 'twill be too late tomorrow,<br>
Live if thou'rt wise today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_arts_of_logick_and_rhetorick_adapted/dvQIAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20%22Twill%20be%20too%20late%20to-morrow%22&pg=PA219&printsec=frontcover&bsq=martial%20%22Twill%20be%20too%20late%20to-morrow%22">Oldmixon</a> (1728)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"I'll live tomorrow," will a wise man say? <br>
Tomorrow is too late, then live today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=tomorrow&pg=PA32&printsec=frontcover">Hay</a> (1755), quoted in Bohn's, but not in Hay's own book]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tomorrow I shall live, the fool will say. [...]<br>
Wouldst thou be sure of living? Live today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22sure%20of%20living%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 2, ep. 45]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>No wisdom 'tis to say "I'll soon begin to live."<br>
'Tis late to live tomorrow; live today.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22begin%20to%20live%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>It sorts not, believe me, with wisdom to say "I shall live." <br>
Too late is tomorrow's life; live thou today. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20shall%20live%22&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>"I'll live tomorrow," no wise man will say;<br>
Tomorrow is too late. Then live today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20wise%20man%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #10] </blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To say, "I mean to live," is folly's place:<br>
Tomorrow's life comes late; live, then, today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=To%20say%2C%20%22I,then%2C%20to-day.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>It's not a wise man's part to say<br>
"I'll live," Tomorrow's life is much to late.<br>
Live! Today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22part+to+say%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Believe me, the wise man does not say "1 shall live." Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Believe%20me%2C%20the%20wise%20man%20does%20not%20say%20%221%20shall%20live.%22%20Tomorrow%27s%20life%20is%20too%20late.%20Live%20today.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>No sage will e'er "I'll live tomorrow" say: <br>
Tomorrow is too late: live thou today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=tomorrow&pg=PA32&printsec=frontcover">WSB</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  16 (1.16) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work you&#8217;ll find, some poor, and much that&#8217;s worse, It takes all sorts to make a book of verse. [Sunt bona, sunt quaedam mediocria, sunt mala plura quae legis hic: aliter non fit, Avite, liber.] &#8220;To Avitus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Some things are good, indifferent some, some naught, You read: a book can&#8217;t [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work you&#8217;ll find, some poor, and much that&#8217;s worse,<br />
It takes all sorts to make a book of verse.</p>
<p><em>[Sunt bona, sunt quaedam mediocria, sunt mala plura<br />
quae legis hic: aliter non fit, Avite, liber.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  16 (1.16) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n27/mode/2up?q=olla+podrida" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Avitus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.16">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Some things are good, indifferent some, some naught,<br>
You read: a book can't otherwise be wrote.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA33">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here's some good things, some middling, more bad, you will see:<br>
Else a book, my Avitus, it never could be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA440&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22else%20a%20book%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.6]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some of my epigrams are good, some moderately so, more bad: there is no other way, Avitus, of making a book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/34/mode/2up?q=avitus">Amos</a> (1858), 2.23 (cited as 1.17)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of the epigrams which you read here, some are good, some middling, many bad: a book, Avitus, cannot be made in any other way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Of%20the%20epigrams%20which%20you%20read%20here%2C%20some%20are%20good%2C%20some%20middling%2C%20many%20bad%3B%20a%20book%2C%20Avitus%2C%20cannot%20be%20made%20in%20any%20other%20way.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here you will read some few good things, while some<br>
Are mediocre, most are bad: 'tis thus<br>
That every book's compiled.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22are%20mediocre%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>There are good things, there are some indifferent, there are more things bad that you read here. Not otherwise, Avitus, is a book produced.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20book%20produced%22&pg=PA41&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Good work you’ll find, some poor, and much that’s worse;<br>
It takes all sorts to make a book of verse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n27/mode/2up?q=%22good+work+you%27ll+find%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Some things are good, some fair, but more you'll say<br>
Are bad herein -- all books are made that way!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Some%20things%20are,made%20that%20way!">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some of these epigrams are good,<br>
<span class="tab">Some mediocre, many bad.<br>
Otherwise, it is understood,<br>
<span class="tab">A bookful of poems cannot be had.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22some+mediocre%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Among these lines you'll find a few<br>
that are rather good, more that are only fair,<br>
and a lot that are bad.<br>
From that, Avitus, it may be deduced<br>
<span class="tab">just how a book is produced.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22among+these+lines%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some good, some middling, and some bad<br>
You’ll find here. They are what I had.<br>
[tr. Cunningham (1971)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Some lines in here are good, some fair, <br>
<span class="tab">And most are frankly rotten;<br>
No other kind of book, Avitus,<br>
<span class="tab">Can ever be begotten.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/354/mode/2up?q=%22some+lines+in+here%22">Wender</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>There are good things that you read here, and some indifferent, and more bad. Not otherwise, Avitus, is a book made.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=There%20are%20good%20things%20that%20you%20read%20here%2C%20and%20some%20indifferent%2C%20and%20more%20bad.%20Not%20otherwise%2C%20Avitus%2C%20is%20a%20book%20made.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Some good things here, and some not worth a look.<br>
For this is that anomaly, a book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT17&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.16%20some%20good">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some of my poems are good, some<br>
not up to scratch, some<br>
bad.<br>
That’s how it is with most books,<br>
if the truth were told.<br>
Who tells the truth about truth, my dear?<br>
Make way for the judge and the jester.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22poems%20are%20good%22">Kennelly</a> (2008), "How It Is"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You'll read some good things here, some fair, more worse.<br>
There's no way else to make a book of verse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/4/mode/2up?q=%22some+good+things%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You're reading good poems here, Avitus -- and a few that are so-so, and a lot that are bad; a book doesn't happen any other way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22reading%20good%20poems%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Some good, some so-so, most of them naught!<br>
Well, if not worse, the book may still be bought.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA33">Anon.</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why fight off fame now beating at your door? What other writers dare to promise more? You must make immortality start now, Not make it wait to give your corpse a bow. [Ante fores stantem dubitas admittere Famam Teque piget curae praemia ferre tuae? Post te victurae per te quoque vivere chartae Incipiant: cineri gloria [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why fight off fame now beating at your door?<br />
<span class="tab">What other writers dare to promise more?<br />
You must make immortality start now,<br />
<span class="tab">Not make it wait to give your corpse a bow.</p>
<p><em>[Ante fores stantem dubitas admittere Famam<br />
Teque piget curae praemia ferre tuae?<br />
Post te victurae per te quoque vivere chartae<br />
Incipiant: cineri gloria sera venit.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  25 (1.25.5-8) (AD 85-86) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=other%20writers%20dare" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Faustinus." (<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D1%3Apoem%3D25#:~:text=Ante%20fores%20stantem%20dubitas%20admittere%20Famam%0ATeque%20piget%20curae%20praemia%20ferre%20tuae%3F%0APost%20te%20victurae%20per%20te%20quoque%20vivere%20chartae%0AIncipiant%3A%20cineri%20gloria%20sera%20venit.">Source (Latin)</a>). Some early writers number this as ep. 26, as noted.  Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Wilt not admit fame standing at thy doore?<br>
And take the fruit of all thy paines before?<br>
Fame to the Urne comes late; let those Books live<br>
With thee, which after life to thee must give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.62?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Wilt%20not%20admit,thee%20must%20give.">May</a> (1629), 1.26]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Dost doubt t'admit Fame standing at thy gate?<br>
<span class="tab">Thy labour's just reward to bear, dost hate?<br>
That which will <i>after, in</i> thy time let live:<br>
<span class="tab">Too late men praise unto our ashes give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20late%20men%20praise%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fame at your portal waits; the door why barr'd?<br>
<span class="tab">Why loth to take your labour's just reward?<br>
Let works live with you, which will long survive;<br>
<span class="tab">For honours after death too late arrive.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20late%20arrive%22">Hay</a> (1755), 1.26]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Admit fair fame, who dances at thy door;<br>
<span class="tab">And dain to reap thyself thy toil's reward.<br>
The strains that shall survive thee, give to soar;<br>
<span class="tab">Nor to thine ashes leave the late record.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22xxxiv%20to%20faustinus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 2.34]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you hesitate to let in Fame when standing for admittance before your threshold, and does it grieve you to reap the rewards of your own diligence? May your poems, which will survive you, begin to live by your means. The glory which is shed upon ashes arrives full late. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22shed+upon+ashes%22">Amos</a> (1858), 1.26 "Posthumous Works"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you hesitate to admit Fame, who is standing before your door; and does it displease you to receive the reward of your labour? Let the writings, destined to live after you, begin to live through your means. Glory comes too late, when paid only to our ashes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20hesitate%20to%20admit%20Fame%2C%20who%20is%20standing%20before%20your%20door%3B%20and%20does%20it%20displease%20you%20to%20receive%20the%20reward%20of%20your%20labour%3F%20Let%20the%20writings%2C%20destined%20to%20live%20after%20you%2C%20begin%20to%20live%20through%20your%20means.%20Glory%20comes%20too%20late%2C%20when%20paid%20only%20to%20our%20ashes.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If after thee thy verses are to live,<br>
Let them begin whilst thou'rt alive. Too late<br>
The glory that illumines but they tomb.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22illumines%20but%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Do you hesitate to admit Fame that stands before your doors, and shrink from winning the reward of your care? Let writings that will live after you by your adi also begin to live now; to the ashes of the dead glory comes too late.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dead%20glory%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nay, doth it irk you that reward is nigh?<br>
<span class="tab">Why bar out fame who standeth at the gate?<br>
Give birth to what must live, before you die,<br>
<span class="tab">For honour paid to ashes comes too late.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n29/mode/2up?q=%22paid+to+ashes%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fame stands before your threshold, let her in;<br>
<span class="tab">Are you ashamed your meed of praise to win?<br>
Your books will long outlive you in their fame;<br>
<span class="tab">Come then, begin, for ashes have no name.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ashes%20have%20no%20name%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #14]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tell me why you hesitate;<br>
<span class="tab">Fame is standing at your door.<br>
Take the prize she long has offered,<br>
<span class="tab">Long has held for you in store!<br>
Let works that will survive you after<br>
<span class="tab">You have trod the path so dread<br>
Live now, while you still are living.<br>
<span class="tab">Fame comes too late to the dead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22fate+comes+too+late%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Fame is at the door,<br>
and you keep her waiting.<br>
You can't bring yourself to accept <br>
the reward of your worry?<br>
Hurry!<br>
Let those pages begin to live -- show your face.<br>
They will live on after you're gone in any case.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22fame+is+at+the+door%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Do you hesitate to let Fame in when she stands at your door? Are you reluctant to take the reward for your pains? Your pages will live after you; let them also begin to live through you. Glory comes late to the grave.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Do%20you%20nesitate%20to%20let%20Farne%20in%20when%20she%20stands%20at%20your%20door%3F%20Are%20you%20reluctant%20to%20take%20the%20reward%20for%20your%20pains%3F%20Your%20pages%20will%20live%20after%20you%3B%20let%20them%20also%20begin%20to%20live%20through%20you.%20c%20Glory%20comes%20late%20to%20the%20grave.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

Amos (above) provides a <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22posthumous+poems+of+Lovelace%22">number of examples</a> where the last line has inspired other writers. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_Works_of_Lord_Byron_(ed._Coleridge,_Prothero)_-_Volume_7.djvu/108">Byron</a> wrote, in the same vein, in "Martial, Lib. I, Epig. I" (c. 1821):<br><br>

<blockquote>He unto whom thou art so partial,<br>
<span class="tab">O reader! is the well-known Martial,<br>
The Epigrammatist: while living<br>
<span class="tab">Give him the fame thou wouldst be giving;<br>
So shall he hear, and feel, and know it --<br>
<span class="tab">Post-obits rarely reach a poet.</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  27 (1.27) (AD 85-86) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;A Alleybi&#8217;s the Thing&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact I asked you last night To come round this evening and dine, Procillus, would seem to be due To that fifth or sixth bottle of wine. To think it entirely arranged And take notes on the nonsense you hear Is a hazardous way to behave &#8212; D&#8211;n a drinker whose memory&#8217;s clear! [Hesterna [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact I asked you last night<br />
<span class="tab">To come round this evening and dine,<br />
Procillus, would seem to be due<br />
<span class="tab">To that fifth or sixth bottle of wine.<br />
To think it entirely arranged<br />
<span class="tab">And take notes on the nonsense you hear<br />
Is a hazardous way to behave &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">D&#8211;n a drinker whose memory&#8217;s clear!</p>
<p><em>[Hesterna tibi nocte dixeramus,<br />
Quincunces puto post decem peractos,<br />
Cenares hodie, Procille, mecum.<br />
Tu factam tibi rem statim putasti<br />
Et non sobria verba subnotasti<br />
Exemplo nimium periculoso:<br />
Μισῶ μνάμονα συμπόταν, Procille.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  27 (1.27) (AD 85-86) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;A Alleybi&#8217;s the Thing&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/8/mode/2up?q=procillus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Procillus." The Greek phrase, attested to elsewhere in Classical literature, reads, as variously translated here, "I dislike a drinking companion who remembers."  <br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.27">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I had this day carroust the thirteenth cup,<br>
And was both slipper-tong'd, and idle-brain'd,<br>
And said by chance, that you with me should sup.<br>
<span class="tab">You thought hereby, a supper cleerely gain'd:<br>
And in your Tables you did quote it up.<br>
Uncivill ghest, that hath been so ill train'd!<br>
Worthy thou are hence supperlesse to walke,<br>
<span class="tab">That tak'st advantage of our Table-talke.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22thirteenth%20cup%22">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To sup with me, to thee I did propound,<br>
<span class="tab">But 'twas when our full cups had oft gone round.<br>
The thing thou straight concludest to be done,<br>
<span class="tab">Merry and sober words counting all one.<br>
Th' example's dangerous at the highest rate;<br>
<span class="tab">A memorative drunkard all men hate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bohn%27s%20classical%20library%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yesternight, it seems, I swore,<br>
<span class="tab">Fifty bumpers hardly o'er,<br>
You should sup tonight with me;<br>
<span class="tab">Instant you devour'd the glee;<br>
And would bind the words of drink:<br>
<span class="tab">Dang'rous precedent, I think.<br>
Wofull partner of the bowl,<br>
<span class="tab">Proves a reminiscent soul.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 17]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night I had invited you -- after some fifty glasses, I suppose, had been despatched -- to sup with me today. You immediately thought your fortune was made, and took note of my unsober words, with a precedent but too dangerous. I hate a boon companion whose memory is good, Procillus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Last%20night%20I%20had%20invited%20you%2D%2D%2D%2Dafter%20some%20fifty%20glasses%2C%20I%20suppose%2C%20had%20been%20despatched%2D%2D%2D%2Dto%20sup%20with%20me%20to%2Dday.%20You%20immediately%20thought%20your%20fortune%20was%20made%2C%20and%20took%20note%20of%20my%20unsober%20words%2C%20with%20a%20precedent%20but%20too%20dangerous.%20I%20hate%20a%20boon%20companion%20whose%20memory%20is%20good%2C%20Procillus.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night I said to you (I think it was after I had got through ten half-pints): "Dine with me today, Procillus."  You at once thought the matter settled for you, and took secret note of my unsober remark -- a precedent too dangerous! "I hate a messmate with a memory," Procillus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22walter%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I may have asked you here to dine,<br>
But that was late at night,<br>
And none of us had spared the wine<br>
<span class="tab">If I remember right.<br>
You thought the invitation meant,<br>
Though wine obscured my wit!<br>
And -- O most parous precedent --<br>
<span class="tab">You made a note of it!<br>
The maxim that in Greece was true<br>
Is true in Rome today --<br>
"I hate a fellow-toper who<br>
<span class="tab">Remembers what I say."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n31/mode/2up?q=%22wise+to+forget%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "'Tis Wise to Forget"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>After ten cups were put away<br>
<span class="tab">I said, "Procillus," yesterday,<br>
"You'll dine with me, my friend, you're wanted."<br>
<span class="tab">You promptly took the thing for granted<br>
And made a note without formality<br>
<span class="tab">Of my incautious hospitality;<br>
A dangerous precedent to set;<br>
<span class="tab">I hate a guest who won't forget.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22after%20ten%20cups%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #16]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night I said, while feeling fine,<br>
<span class="tab">Having drunk much too much wine,<br>
That you must promise, when this way,<br>
<span class="tab">To stop and dine with me some day.<br>
You made a mental note of it,<br>
<span class="tab">A practice which, I must admit --<br>
Taking me at my drunken word! --<br>
<span class="tab">Is dangerous and quite absurds.<br>
Barroom promises are fine,<br>
<span class="tab">But he who keeps them is a swine!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22while+feeling+fine%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Last night in my cups,<br>
or my brandy tumbler, at least,<br>
I asked you for dinner today.<br>
But you took me seriously, Procillus,<br>
and noted down carefully the words I spouted<br>
under the influence. A dangerous business.<br>
I don't like to drink with people who remember.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22in+my+cups%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Last night, after five pints of wine,<br>
<span class="tab">I said, "Procillus, come and dine<br>
Tomorrow." You assumed I meant<br>
<span class="tab">What I said (a dangerous precedent)<br>
And slyly jotted down a note<br>
<span class="tab">Of my drunk offer. Let me quote<br>
A proverb from the Greek: "I hate<br>
<span class="tab">An unforgetful drinking mate."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/4/mode/2up?q=%22five+pints%22">Michie</a> (1972)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night when I was carried off with wine<br>
<span class="tab">I made you promise to drop by and dine<br>
With me today. Only a fool or a turd<br>
<span class="tab">Expects a drunken man to keep his word.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/386/mode/2up?q=%22bummer%22">O'Connell</a> (1991), "Bummer"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night after getting through four pints or so I asked you to dine with me this evening, Procillus. You thought you had the matter settled then and there, and made a mental note of my tipsy words -- a very dangerous precedent. I don't like a boozing partner with a memory, Procillus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Last%20night%20after%20getting%20through%20four%20pints%20or%20so%20I%20asked%20you%20to%20dine%20with%20me%20this%20evening%2C%20Procillus.%20You%20thought%20you%20had%20the%20matter%20settled%20then%20and%20there%2C%20and%20made%20a%20mental%20note%20of%20my%20tipsy%20wordsa%20very%20dangerous%20precedent.%20I%20don%27t%20like%20a%20boozingpartner%20with%20a%20memory%2C%20d%20Procillus.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When drinks I had beyond my number,<br>
<span class="tab">I thought I would myself encumber<br>
With a pledge to give you lunch today.<br>
<span class="tab">You wrote it down with great display<br>
As if to register disputed votes.<br>
<span class="tab">I hate a tippler taking notes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%221.27%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night, Procillus, after I had drunk<br>
four pints or so, I asked if you would dine<br>
with me today. At once, you thought the matter<br>
was settled, based on statements blurred by wine --<br>
a risky precedent. Good memory<br>
is odious in one who drinks with me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/4/mode/2up?q=procillus">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Last night I invited you,<br>
after we killed, what, fifty-something cups,<br>
to come and eat some food with me today.<br>
Right then and there you thought the thing was done<br>
and took me at my not-so-sober word.<br>
A very risky thing to do: <em>I hate<br>
a drinking bud whose memory is good.</em><br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.trickdogbar.com/gypsytan/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Trick-Dog-Menu.pdf">Goldman</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who says with last night&#8217;s wine Acerra stinks, Is much deceived: till day Acerra drinks. [Hesterno fetere mero qui credit Acerram, Fallitur: in lucem semper Acerra bibit.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Acerra smells of last night&#8217;s wine, you say. Don&#8217;t wrong Acerra: he topes on till day. [tr. Elphinston (1782), Book 12, ep. 117] Whoever [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says with last night&#8217;s wine Acerra stinks,<br />
Is much deceived: till day Acerra drinks.</p>
<p><em>[Hesterno fetere mero qui credit Acerram,<br />
Fallitur: in lucem semper Acerra bibit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  28 (1.28) (AD 85-86) [tr. Wright (1663)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bohn%27s%20classical%20library%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.28">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Acerra smells of last night's wine, you say.<br>
Don't wrong Acerra: he topes on till day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 117]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whoever believes it is of yesterday's wine that Acerra smells, is mistaken: Acerra always drinks till morning.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Whoever%20believes%20it%20is%20of%20yesterday%27s%20wine%20that%20Acerra%20smells%2C%20is%20mistaken%3A%20Acerra%20always%20drinks%20till%20morning.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lest you think Afer smells of his yesterday's wine<br>
I give warning<br>
That Afer continues potating each night<br>
Till it's morning.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/8/mode/2up?q=morning">Nixon</a> (1911), "By the Book"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He who fancies that Acerra reeks of yesterday's wine is wrong. Acerra always drinks till daylight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22walter%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He reeks, you might think, of his yesterday's drink;<br>
But knowing his customs and ways,<br>
You are wrong, I'll be sworn, for he drank till the morn,<br>
So the savour is truly today's.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n31/mode/2up?q=%22on+acerra%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You say he still reeked of last night's wine<br>
When he spoke to you, stifling a yawn?<br>
Oh no, you are wrong, you're mistaken, sir!<br>
He always drinks till dawn.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/10/mode/2up">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Acerra reeks of last night's wine?<br>
No. He drinks on into the sunshine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/48/mode/2up?q=acerra">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Anybody who thinks that Acerra reeks of yesterday's wine misses his guess. Acerra always drinks till sunrise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Anybody%20who%20thinks%20that%20Acerra%20reeks%20of%20yesterday%27s%20wine%20misses%20his%20guess.%20Acerra%20always%20drinks%20till%20sunrise.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They claimed, with blamings not condign,<br>
He reeked at morn of last night's wine.<br>
He intermits not in such ways:<br>
Not last night's wine -- it was today's.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22they%20claimed%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whoever thinks Acerra stinks of last night's wine<br>
is wrong. He drinks till light begins to shine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/4/mode/2up?q=acerra">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To say Acerra stinks of day-old booze is wrong!<br>
Each drink is freshened all night long!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2017/06/03/around-the-scuttlebutt-brief-poems-by-a-m-juster/#:~:text=from%20Martialed%20Arguments-,1.28,-To%20say%20Acerra">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not love thee, Sabidius, nor can I say why; I can only say this, I do not love thee. [Non amo te, Sabidi, nec possum dicere quare: Hoc tantum possum dicere, non amo te.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: I love thee not, Sabidius; ask you why? I do not love thee, let that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not love thee, Sabidius, nor can I say why;<br />
I can only say this, I do not love thee.</p>
<p><em>[Non amo te, Sabidi, nec possum dicere quare:<br />
Hoc tantum possum dicere, non amo te.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  32 (1.32) (AD 85-86) [tr. Bohn&#8217;s (1859)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=love%20thee%20sabidius&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.32">Source (Latin)</a>).  Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I love thee not, Sabidius; ask you why?<br>
I do not love thee, let that satisfy!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=love%20thee%20sabidius&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>I love thee not, but why, I can't display.<br>
I love thee not, is all that I can say.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=love%20thee%20sabidius&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>SABBY, I love thee not, nor can say why. <br>
One thing I can say, SAB: thee love not I.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/204/mode/2up?q=%22sabby%2C+i+love%22">Elphinston</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I love you not, Sabidis, I cannot tell why. <br>
This only can I tell, I love you not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/118/mode/2up?q=sabidis">Amos</a> (1858), 3.86, cited as 1.33]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I do not love you, Sabidius, nor can I say why; <br>
I can only say this, I do not love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=I%20do%20not%20love%20you%2C%20Sabidius%2C%20nor%20can%20I%20say%20why%3B%20I%20can%20only%20say%20this%2C%20I%20do%20not%20love%20you.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I do not love you, Sabidius; and I can't say why. <br>
This only I can say: I do not love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=love%20you%20sabidius&pg=PA49&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I like you not, Sabidius, and I can't tell why. All I can tell is this: I like you not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=I%20like%20you%20not%2C%20Sabidius%2C%20and%20I%20can%27t%20tell%20why.%20All%20I%20can%20tell%20is%20this%3A%20I%20like%20you%20not.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I don’t love you, Sabidius, no, I can’t say why:<br>
All I can say is this, that I don’t love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=I%20don%E2%80%99t%20love%20you%2C%C2%A0Sabidius,that%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20love%20you.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mister Sabidius, you pain me. <br>
I wonder (some) why that should be<br>
And cannot tell -- a mystery.<br>
You inexplicably pain me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.32">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Sabidius, I dislike you, but why this is so true<br>
I can't say, I can only say I don't like you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/48/mode/2up?q=sabidius">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Sabinus, I don’t like you. You know why? <br>
Sabinus, I don’t like you. That is why.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/322/mode/2up?q=%22sabinus%2C+i+don%27t%22">Cunningham</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Sabidius, I don't like you. Why? No clue.<br>
I just don't like you. That will have to do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/4/mode/2up?q=sabidius">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>






There are some variations of this epigram of note. The first is from Thomas Forde (b. 1624):<br><br>

<blockquote>I love thee not, Nell,<br>
But why I can't tell;<br>
Yet this I know well,<br>
I love thee not, Nell.<br>
[<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Forde,_Thomas_(fl.1660)">Letter to Thomas Fuller</a> in <i>Virtus Rediviva</i> (1661)]</blockquote><br>

This seemingly served as a prototype for a more famous variant, attributed to <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22do+not+love+thee+doctor%22">Thomas Brown</a> (1663-1704) (sometimes ascribed to "an Oxford wit") on Dr. John Fell, the Dean of Christ Church, Oxford, c. 1670:<br><br> 

<blockquote>I do not like thee, Dr. Fell,<br>
The reason why I cannot tell;<br>
But this, I'm sure, I know full well,<br>
I do not like thee, Dr. Fell.<br>
<em>[Works</em>, Vol. 4 (1774)]</blockquote><br>

This is sometimes rendered:<br><br>

<blockquote>I do not love you, Dr. <i>Fell,</i><br>
But why I cannot tell;<br>
But this I know full well,<br>
I do not love you, Dr. <i>Fell.</i></blockquote><br>

Along these same lines:<br><br>



<blockquote>I do not like you, Jesse Helms.<br>
<span class="tab">I can’t say why I’m underwhelmed,<br>
but I know one thing sure and true:<br>
<span class="tab">Jesse Helms, I don’t like you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=I%20do%20not%20like%20you%2C%20Jesse%20Helms.%0AI%20can%E2%80%99t%20say%20why%20I%E2%80%99m%20underwhelmed%2C%0Abut%20I%20know%20one%20thing%20sure%20and%20true%3A%0AJesse%20Helms%2C%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20like%20you.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>








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		<description><![CDATA[She weeps not for her sire if none be near, In company she calls up many a tear. True mourners would not have their sorrows known, For grief of heart will choose to weep alone. [Amissum non flet cum sola est Gellia patrem, Si quis adest, iussae prosiliunt lacrimae. Non luget quisquis laudari, Gellia, quaerit, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She weeps not for her sire if none be near,<br />
<span class="tab">In company she calls up many a tear.<br />
True mourners would not have their sorrows known,<br />
<span class="tab">For grief of heart will choose to weep alone.</p>
<p><em>[Amissum non flet cum sola est Gellia patrem,<br />
Si quis adest, iussae prosiliunt lacrimae.<br />
Non luget quisquis laudari, Gellia, quaerit,<br />
Ille dolet vere, qui sine teste dolet.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  33 (1.33) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n33/mode/2up?q=%22on+gellia%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"On Gellia." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.33">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Gellia ne'er mourns her father's loss,<br>
<span class="tab">When no one's by to see,<br>
but yet her soon commanded tears<br>
<span class="tab">Flow in society:<br>
To weep for praise is but a feigned moan;<br>
<span class="tab">He grieves most truly, that does grieve alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xxxiii.%20on%20gellia%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When all alone, your tears withstand;<br>
<span class="tab">In company, can floods command.<br>
Who mourns for fashion, bids us mark;<br>
<span class="tab">Who mourns indeed, mourns in the dark.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xxxiii.%20on%20gellia%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia alone, alas! can never weep,<br>
<span class="tab">Though her fond father perish'd in the deep;<br>
With company the tempest all appears<br>
<span class="tab">And beauteous Gellia's e'en dissolved in tears.<br>
Through public grief though Gellia aims at praise,<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis private sorrow which must merit raise.<br>
[<i><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xxxiii.%20on%20gellia%22">Gentleman's Magazine</a></i> (1736)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Her father dead! -- Alone no grief she knows;<br>
<span class="tab">Th' obedient tear at every visit flows.<br>
No mourner he, who must with praise be fee'd!<br>
<span class="tab">But he, who mourns in secret, mourns indeed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22HER%20FATHER%20DEAD%22">Hay</a> (1755), 1.34]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sire-reft, alone, poor Gellia weeps no woe:<br>
<span class="tab">In company she bids the torrent flow.<br>
they cannot grieve, who to be seen, can cry:<br>
<span class="tab">Theirs is the grief, who without witness sigh.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22sire-reft%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 1]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia, when she is alone, does not lament the loss of her father. If any one be present, her bidden tears gush forth. A person does not grieve who seeks for praise; his is real sorrow who grieves without a witness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/124/mode/2up?q=gellia">Amos</a> (1858), #95 "Feigned Tears"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia does not mourn for her deceased father, when she is alone; but if any one is present, obedient tears spring forth. He mourns not, Gellia, who seeks to be praised; he is the true mourner, who mourns without a witness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Gellia%20does%20not%20mourn%20for%20her%20deceased%20father%2C%20when%20she%20is%20alone%3B%20but%20if%20any%20one%20is%20present%2C%20obedient%20tears%20spring%20forth.%20He%20mourns%20not%2C%20Gellia%2C%20who%20seeks%20to%20be%20praised%3B%20he%20is%20the%20true%20mourner%2C%20who%20mourns%20without%20a%20witness.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He grieves not much who grieves to merit praise;<br>
His grief is real who grieves in solitude.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/TPENAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22grieves%20not%20much%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia weeps not while she is alone for her lost father; is any one be present, her tears leap forth at her bidding. He does not lament who looks, Gellia for praise;' he truly sorrows who sorrows unseen.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Gellia%20weeps%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia, alone, ne'er weeps her sire at all;<br>
<span class="tab">In company the bidden tears down fall.<br>
True grief is not for admiration shown.<br>
<span class="tab">He only weeps indeed, who weeps alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22gellia,%20alone%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #18, 1.32]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When alone, Gellia never cries for the father she lost.<br>
If someone is with her, tears well up in her eyes,<br>
as if ordered to fall in. If some one looks for praise,<br>
he is not in mourning, Gellia.<br>
He truly mourns<br>
who mourns<br>
alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/48/mode/2up?q=gellia">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>In private she mourns not the late-lamented;<br>
<span class="tab">If someone's by her tears leap forth on call.<br>
Sorry, my dear, is not so easily rented.<br>
<span class="tab">They are true tears that without witness fall.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/322/mode/2up?q=%22private+she+mourns%22">Cunningham</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia does not cry for her lost father when she's by herself, but if she has company, out spring the tears to order. Gellia, whoever seeks credit for mourning is no mourner. He truly grieves who grieves without witnesses.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Gellia%20does%20not%20cry%20for%20her%20lost%20father%20when%20she%27s%20by%20herself%2C%20but%20if%20she%20has%20company%2C%20out%20spring%20the%20tears%20to%20order.%20Gellia%2C%20whoever%20seeks%20credit%20for%20mourning%20is%20no%20mourner.%20He%20truly%20grieves%20who%20grieves%20without%20witnesses.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia's mourning for her father?<br>
<span class="tab">If by herself she doesn't bother.<br>
But when she sees that company lurks<br>
<span class="tab">She opens up the waterworks.<br>
She just wants praise for grief that's shown;<br>
<span class="tab">They truly grieve who weep alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When Janet is sequestered, out of view,<br>
<span class="tab">Then never for her father's death she cries.<br>
But let some viewers come, just one or two,<br>
<span class="tab">Then tears dramatically flood her eyes.<br>
We know from this how sad in fact she's been:<br>
<span class="tab">It is not grief that's only grieved when seen.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.33">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gellia doesn't weep for her dead father<br>
<span class="tab">when she's alone, but tears pour on command<br>
if someone comes. Who courts praise isn't mourning --<br>
<span class="tab">he truly grieves who grieves with none at hand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/4/mode/2up?q=gellia">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Alone, Gellia never weeps over her father's death;<br>
if someone's there, her tears burst forth at will.<br>
Mourning that looks for praise, Gellia, is not grief:<br>
true sorrow grieves unseen.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=jim+powell+%22alone,+gellia%22&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover">Powell</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[The verse is mine but friend, when you declaim it, It seems like yours, so grievously you maim it. [Quem recitas meus est, o Fidentine, libellus: sed male cum recitas, incipit esse tuus.] &#8220;To Fidentinus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: The Booke thou readst, O Fidentine, is mine; But when thou ill recit&#8217;st it, it proves [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The verse is mine but friend, when you declaim it,<br />
It seems like yours, so grievously you maim it.</p>
<p><em>[Quem recitas meus est, o Fidentine, libellus:<br />
sed male cum recitas, incipit esse tuus.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  38 (1.38) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n33/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Fidentinus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.38">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>The Booke thou readst, O Fidentine, is mine;<br>
But when thou ill recit'st it, it proves thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.24?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The verses, Sextus, thou dost read, are mine;<br>
But with bad reading thou wilt make them thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22The+verses,+Sextus,+thou%22&pg=PA163&printsec=frontcover">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The verses, friend, which thou hast read, are mine;<br>
But, as thou read'st them, they may pass for thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_Ancient_and_Modern_humorous_wit/SyBYAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22verses,%20friend%22">Bouquet</a>]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>The verses, friend, which thou hast read, are mine;<br>
But, as thou read'st so ill, 't is surely thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA43">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My living lays were those that you dispense:<br>
But, when you murder them, they yours commence.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22living%20lays%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.14]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O Fidentinus! the book you are reciting is mine, but you recite it so badly it begins to be yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/46/mode/2up?q=fidentinus">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 2, ep. 33]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With faulty accents, and so vile a tone,<br>
You quote my lines, I took them for your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Register_and_Repository_of/zEggAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22faulty+accents,+and+so+vile%22&pg=PA224&printsec=frontcover">Halhead</a> (fl. c. 1800)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The book which you are reading aloud is mine, Fidentinus but, while you read it so badly, it begins to be yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=The%20book%20which%20you%20are%20reading%20aloud%20is%20mine%2C%20Fidentinus%20but%2C%20while%20you%20read%20it%20so%20badly%2C%20it%20begins%20to%20be%20yours.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The verses, friend, which thou has read, are mine;<br>
But, as though read'st them, they may pass for thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA43">Bouquet</a> (<1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're reading my book to your friends as your own:<br>
But in reading so badly your claim to it's shown.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/6/mode/2up?q=fidentinus">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That book you recite, O Fidentinus, is mine. But your vile recitation begins to make it your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22book%20you%20recite%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The book you read in public from<br>
is one I wrote. But the way you moan<br>
and mangle it turns it into your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22read+in+public%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They're mine, but while a fool like you recites<br>
My poems I resign the author's rights.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22they%27re+mine%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The little book you are reciting, Fidentinus, belongs to me. But when you recite it badly, it begins to belong to you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=The%20little%20book%20you%20are%20reciting%2C%20Fidentinus%2C%20belongs%20to%20me.%20But%20when%20you%20recite%20it%20badly%2C%20it%20begins%20to%20belong%20to%20you.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Fame of how badly you read it endures.<br>
Though that's my book, just call it yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although the lines are mine (their worth assures) --<br>
By badly singing them, you make them yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=1.38">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Dear Rud, the book from which you are<br>
giving a reading is mine<br>
but since you read so badly<br>
it's yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dear%20rud%22">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The book that you recite from, Fidentinus, is my own.<br>
But when you read it badly, it belongs to you alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22you%20recite%20from%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That little book you're reciting is one of mine, Fidentinus; but you're reciting it so badly, it's turning into one of yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22reciting%20is%20one%20of%20mine%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask me to recite my poems to you?<br>
I know how you’ll “recite” them, if I do.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.thehypertexts.com/Michael%20R.%20Burch%20Epigrams%20and%20Quotes.htm#:~:text=You%20ask%20me%20to%20recite%20my%20poems%20to%20you%3F%0AI%20know%20how%20you%27ll%20%22recite%22%20them%2C%20if%20I%20do.">Burch</a> (c. 2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That verse is mine, you know, which you’re<br>
<span class="tab">Reciting, But you quote it<br>
So execrably, that I believe<br>
<span class="tab">I’ll let you say you wrote it<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA74&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22verse%20is%20mine%22">Wender</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The poems thou are reading, friend, are mine;<br>
But such bad reading starts to make them thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=The%20poems%20thou%20are%20reading%2C%20friend%2C%20are%20mine">Oliver</a>]</blockquote><br>




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		<description><![CDATA[Lest all overlook so tiny a book And brevity lead to its loss, I will not refuse such padding to use As &#8220;Τὸν δ̕ ἀπαμειθόμενος.&#8221; [Edita ne brevibus pereat mihi cura libellis, Dicatur potius Τὸν δ᾽ ἀπαμειβόμενος.] Using a phrase (&#8220;to him in answer&#8221; or &#8220;answering him&#8221;) that is repeated many, many times in Homer&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest all overlook so tiny a book<br />
And brevity lead to its loss,<br />
I will not refuse such padding to use<br />
As &#8220;Τὸν δ̕ ἀπαμειθόμενος.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Edita ne brevibus pereat mihi cura libellis,<br />
Dicatur potius Τὸν δ᾽ ἀπαμειβόμενος.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  45 (1.45) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;Poet&#8217;s Padding&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/n37/mode/2up?q=%22poet%27s+padding%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Using a phrase ("to him in answer" or "answering him") that is repeated many, many times in Homer's epics, <em>The Odyssey</em> and <em>The Iliad</em>. (Source (Latin)). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Lest, in air, the mere lightness my distics should toss;<br>
I'd rather sing δ̕ ἀπαμειθόμενος.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22mere%20lightness%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.216]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That the care which I have bestowed upon what I have published may not come to nothing through the smallness of my volumes, let me rather fill up my verses with Τὸν δ̕ ἀπαμειθόμενος.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=That%20the%20care%20which%20I%20have%20bestowed%20upon%20what%20I%20have%20published%20may%20not%20come%20to%20nothing%20through%20the%20smallness%20of%20my%20volumes%2C%20let%20me%20rather%20fill%20up%20my%20verses%20with%20%CE%A4%E1%BD%B8%CE%BD%20%CE%B4%CC%95%20%E1%BC%80%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B8%E1%BD%B9%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lest his pains should be lost by publishing too short a book, he will fill it up with repetitions, like Homer's well-known verse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrammataselec00martuoft/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22ep.+24.%22">Paley/Stone</a> (1890)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That my labor be not lost because published in tiny volumes, rather let there be added Τὸν δ̕ ἀπαμειθόμενος.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22labour%20be%20not%20lost%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For fear my fount of poetry run dry<br>
"Him answering" is still my cuckoo-cry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22fear%20my%20fount%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 24]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To keep my little books from dropping dead<br>
of brevity, I could pad with "... then he said."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22dropping+dead%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Rather than have my work published in small volumes and so go to waste, let me say "to him in answer."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Rather%20than%20have%20my%20work%20puhlished%20in%20small%20volurnes%20and%20so%20go%20to%20waste%2C%20let%20me%20say%20%22to%20hirn%20in%20answer.%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[You’re rich and young, as all confess, And none denies your loveliness; But when we hear your boastful tongue You’re neither pretty, rich, nor young. [Bella es, novimus, et puella, verum est, Et dives, quis enim potest negare? Sed cum te nimium, Fabulla, laudas, Nec dives neque bella nec puella es.] &#8220;To Fabulla.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re rich and young, as all confess,<br />
<span class="tab">And none denies your loveliness;<br />
But when we hear your boastful tongue<br />
<span class="tab">You’re neither pretty, rich, nor young.</p>
<p><em>[Bella es, novimus, et puella, verum est,<br />
Et dives, quis enim potest negare?<br />
Sed cum te nimium, Fabulla, laudas,<br />
Nec dives neque bella nec puella es.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  64 (1.64) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Boaster&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/22/mode/2up?q=fabulla#:~:text=You%E2%80%99re%20rich%20and,rich%2C%20nor%20young." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Fabulla." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.64">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Of beautie braue we knowe thou art, <br>
<span class="tab">and eke a maide beside:<br>
Abounding eke in wealthe and store, <br>
<span class="tab">this ne maie bee denied.<br>
But while to much you praise your self,<br>
<span class="tab">and boste you all surmount:<br>
Ne riche, ne faire, Fabulla, nor<br>
<span class="tab">A maide we can you counte.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22of+beautie+braue%22">Kendall</a> (1577)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You're fayre, I know't; and modest too, 't is true;<br>
<span class="tab">And rich you are; well, who denyes it you?<br>
But whilst your owne prayse you too much proclame,<br>
<span class="tab">Of modest, rich, and fayre you loose the same.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA58">17th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Faire, rich, and yong? how rare is her perfection,<br>
<span class="tab">Were it not mingled with one soule infection?<br>
I meane, so proud a heart, so curst a tongue,<br>
<span class="tab">As makes her seeme, nor faire, nor rich, nor yong.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22her%20perfection%22">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600), ep. 291; Book 4, ep. 37 "Of a faire Shrew"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Th' art faire Fabulla, tis most true,<br>
<span class="tab">Rich, yongue, there's none denies thy due.<br>
But whilest thy selfe dost too much boast,<br>
<span class="tab">Thy youth, thy wealth, thy beautie's lost.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.19?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Genteel 't is true, O nymph, you are;<br>
<span class="tab">You're rich and beauteous to a hair.<br>
But while too much you praise yourself,<br>
<span class="tab">You've neither air, nor charms, nor pelf.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA58">Gent. Mag.</a> (1746)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pretty thou art, we know; a pretty maid!<br>
<span class="tab">A rich one, too, it cannot be gainsay'd.<br>
But when thy puffs we hear, thy pride we see;<br>
<span class="tab">Thou neither rich, nor fair, nor maid canst be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22pretty%20thou%20art%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 48; Bohn labels this as Anon.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are pretty, -- we know it; and young, --it is true; and rich, -- who can deny it? But when you praise yourself extravagantly, Fabulla, you appear neither rich, nor pretty, nor young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=You%20are%20pretty%2C%2D%2D%2D%2Dwe%20know%20it%3B%20and%20young%2C%2D%2D%2D%2Dit%20is%20true%3B%20and%20rich%2C%2D%2D%2D%2Dwho%20can%20deny%20it%3F%20But%20when%20you%20praise%20yourself%20extravagantly%2C%20Fabulla%2C%20you%20appear%20neither%20rich%2C%20nor%20pretty%2C%20nor%20young.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabulla, it's true you're a fair ingénue,<br>
And your wealth is on every one's tongue:<br>
<span class="tab">But your loud self-conceit<br>
<span class="tab">Makes people you meet<br>
Think you neither fair, wealthy, nor young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/6/mode/2up?q=fabulla">Nixon</a> (1911), "The Egoist"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are beautiful, we know, and young, that is true, and rich -- for who can deny it? But while you praise yourself overmuch, Fabulla, you are neither rich, nor beautiful, nor young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA69">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You’re beautiful, oh yes, and young, and rich; <br>
But since you tell us so, you’re just a bitch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/306/mode/2up?q=%22beautiful%2C+oh+yes%22">Humphries</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>It's true enough, Fabulla, you are<br
a beautiful and rich young woman.<br
Who could fail to see that?<br
But since these praises of yourself are sung<br
<span class="tab">by you, Fabulla, you aren't rich, or beautiful, or young.<br
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/60/mode/2up?q=fabulla">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>That you're young, beautiful and rich,<br>
<span class="tab">Fabulla, no one can deny.<br>
But when you praise yourself too much,<br>
<span class="tab">None of the epithets apply.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22fabulla%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're beautiful, oh yes, and young, and rich;<br>
But since you tell us so, you're just a bitch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22just%20a%20bitch%22">Humphries</a> (<1987)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You are pretty: we know. You are young: true. And rich: who can deny it? But when you praise yourself too much, Fabulla, you are neither rich nor pretty nor young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=are%20pretty%3A%20we%20know.%20You%20are%20young%3A%20true.%20And%20rieh%3A%20who%20ean%20deny%20it%3F%20But%20wh~n%20you%20praise%20yourself%20too%20mueh%2C%20Fabulla%2C%20you%20are%20neither%20rieh%20nor%20pretty%20noryoung.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You're rich, and young, and beautiful!<br>
<span class="tab">It's true, and who can doubt it?<br>
But less and less we feel that pull<br>
<span class="tab">The more you talk about it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of debutantes you are beyond compare --<br>
<span class="tab">So wealthy, beautiful, and debonair.<br>
Yet you make all this matter not a whit:<br>
<span class="tab">Your beauty to undo -- you boast of it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.64">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You’re lovely, yes, and young, it’s true,<br>
and rich -- who can deny your wealth?<br>
But you aren’t lovely, young or rich,<br>
Fabulla, when you praise yourself.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22you%20praise%20yourself%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  73 (1.73) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you offered your wife to each passer-by free, Not a soul ever wanted to try her. You have learnt wisdom now: kept beneath lock and key She has crowds of men waiting to buy her. [Nullus in urbe fuit tota qui tangere vellet Uxorem gratis, Caeciliane, tuam, Dum licuit: sed nunc positis custodibus ingens [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you offered your wife to each passer-by free,<br />
<span class="tab">Not a soul ever wanted to try her.<br />
You have learnt wisdom now: kept beneath lock and key<br />
<span class="tab">She has crowds of men waiting to buy her.</p>
<p><em>[Nullus in urbe fuit tota qui tangere vellet<br />
Uxorem gratis, Caeciliane, tuam,<br />
Dum licuit: sed nunc positis custodibus ingens<br />
Turba fututorum est: ingeniosus homo es.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  73 (1.73) (AD 85-86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/24/mode/2up#:~:text=When%20you%20offered,to%20buy%20her." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.73">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Cayus, none reckned of they wife a poynt,<br>
While each man might, without all let or cumber,<br>
But since a watch o're her thou didst appoint,<br>
Of Customers she hath no little number.<br>
<span class="tab">Well, let them laugh hereat that list, and scoffe it,<br>
<span class="tab">But thou do'st find what makes most for thy profit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22cayus%2C+none%22">Harington</a> (1618)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Scarce one in all the city would embrace<br>
<span class="tab">Thy proffere'd wife, Caecilian, free to have;<br>
But now she's guarded, and lock'd up, apace<br>
<span class="tab">Thy custom comes. Oh, thou'rt a witty knave!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22scarce%20one%20in%20all%22">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your wife's the plainest piece a man can see:<br>
<span class="tab">No soul would touch her, whilst you left her free:<br>
But since to guard her you employ all arts,<br>
<span class="tab">The rakes besiege her. -- You're a man of parts!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22would%20touch%20her%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 74]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These was no one in the whole city, Caecilianus, who desired to meddle with your wife, even gratis, while permission was given; but now, since you have set a watch upon her, the crowd of gallants is innumerable. You are a clever fellow!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=These%20was%20no%20one%20in%20the%20whole%20city%2C%20Caecilianus%2C%20who%20desired%20to%20meddle%20with%20your%20wife%2C%20even%20gratis%2C%20while%20permission%20was%20given%3B%20but%20now%2C%20since%20you%20have%20set%20a%20watch%20upon%20her%2C%20the%20crowd%20of%20gallants%20is%20innumerable.%20You%20are%20a%20clever%20fellow!">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There was no one in the whole town willing to touch your wife, Caecilianus, gratis, while he was allowed; but now you have set your guards, there is a huge crowd of gallants. You are an ingenious person!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22whole%20town%20willing%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No one in town would touch your wife<br>
<span class="tab">so long as she was free, and willing to boot.<br>
But you posted guards, and suddenly brought to life<br>
<span class="tab">a swarm of suitors ardent after forbidden fruit<br>
in the garden.<br>
<span class="tab">Say, you're a wily warden.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22touch+your+wife%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When you complaisantly allowed
<span class="tab">Any man, free of charge, to lay
Hands on your wife, not one would play.
<span class="tab">But now you've posted a house guard
There's an enormous randy crowd.
<span class="tab">Caecilianus, you're a card.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22Caecilianus%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nobody in all Rome would have wanted to lay a finger on your wife gratis so long as it was permitted, Maecilianus; but now you have posted guards, there is a huge crowd of fuckers. You're a smart fellow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Nobody%20in%20all%20Rome%20would%20have%20wanted%20to%20lay%20a%20finger%20on%20your%20wife%20gratis%20so%20long%20as%20it%20was%20permitted%2C%20Maecilianus%3B%20but%20now%20you%20have%20posted%20guards%2C%20there%20is%20a%20huge%20crowd%20of%20fuckers.%20You%27re%20a%20smart%20fellow.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>To screw your wife, unguarded, no one cared.<br>
But once you barred her door, a thousand dared.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.73">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>None in all Rome would've wished to touch your wife<br>
<span class="tab">for free -- if you permitted it -- not ever.<br>
Now that you've posted guards, Caecilianus,<br>
<span class="tab">you've drawn a crowd of fuckers. You're so clever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/8/mode/2up?q=%22none+in+all+rome%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>No one in this city would<br>
<span class="tab">touch your wife, while free they could;<br>
now she’s guarded, there’s a band<br>
<span class="tab">of fuckers for her -- clever man!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2016/08/27/a-band-of-fkers-martial-1-73/">@sentantiq/Robinson</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Caecilianus,<br>
There wasn’t a guy in this whole damn city<br>
Who would have touched your old lady without a stud fee<br>
<span class="tab">When she was easily available.<br>
But now, with all those chaperones you’ve hired,<br>
<span class="tab">There’s a pack of cocksmen waiting to bang her.<br>
You sure are clever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://artfuldodge.spaces.wooster.edu/making-introductions/joseph-s-salemi-martial/#:~:text=Caecilianus%2C%0AThere,sure%20are%20clever.">Salemi</a>]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  83 (1.83) (AD 85-86) [tr. Davison (1608)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I muse not that your Dog turds oft doth eat; To a tongue that licks your lips, a turd’s sweet meat. [Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: Non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.] &#8220;On Manneia.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: That thy Dog loves to lick thy Lips, th&#8217;art pleas&#8217;d; He&#8217;ll lick that too, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I muse not that your Dog turds oft doth eat;<br />
To a tongue that licks your lips, a turd’s sweet meat.</p>
<p><em>[Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus:<br />
Non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  83 (1.83) (AD 85-86) [tr. Davison (1608)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://dmi.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/catalog/miscellany_274#:~:text=I%20muse%20not%20that%20your%20dog%20turds%20oft%20doth%20eat" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"On Manneia." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.83">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>That thy Dog loves to lick thy Lips, th'art pleas'd;<br>
<span class="tab">He'll lick that too, of which thy Belly's eas'd;<br>
And not to flatter, and the Truth to smother,<br>
<span class="tab">I do believe, he knows not one from t'other.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/126/mode/2up">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>On thy lov'd lips, the whelpling lambent hung.<br>
No wonder if a dog can feed on dung.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA461&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22welpling%20lambent%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 171]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your lap-dog, Manneia, licks your mouth and lips: <br>
I do not wonder at a dog liking to eat ordure.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Your%20lap%2Ddog%2C%20Manneia%2C%20licks%20your%20mouth%20and%20lips%3A%20I%20do%20not%20wonder%20at%20a%20dog%20liking%20to%20eat%20ordure.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your face and lips, Manneia, your little dog licks;<br>
I don't wonder that a dog likes to eat filth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=manneia&pg=PA81&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your dog licks your mouth and you don't push him from it.<br>
But what says the proverb -- "A dog and his vomit"?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/26/mode/2up?q=lxxxiii">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Your puppy licks your face and your lips:<br>
No wonder, considering the way he also dips<br>
into turds.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/66/mode/2up?q=puppy">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Your little dog licks you from head to foot<br>
Am I surprised, Manneia?<br>
Not a bit.<br>
<span class="tab">I’m not surprised that dogs like shit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=surprised%20manneia">O'Connell</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Manneia, your little dog licks your face and lips. Small wonder that a dog likes eating dung.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Manneia%2C%20your%20little%20dog%20lieks%20your%20face%20and%20lips.%20Small%20wonder%20that%27%20a%20dog%20likes%20eating%20dung.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Manneia, your lapdog licks his lips with his tongue.<br>
It’s no surprise that a dog likes eating dung.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=manneia%20your%20lapdog&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Dear Manneia:<br>
Your lapdog’s licking your lips and chin:<br>
<span class="tab">no wonder with that shit-eating grin.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Dear%20Manneia%3A,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your little puppy licks your mouth and lips --<br>
Manneia, I no longer find it strange<br>
That dogs are tempted by the smell of turds.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.thehypertexts.com/Martial%20Epigrams.htm#:~:text=live%20twice.%E2%80%94Martial-,Epigram%20I.83,-Your%20little%20puppy">Salemi</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Your puppy licks your mouth and lips<br>
<span class="tab">And never wants to quit.<br>
Manneia, I don't wonder why.<br>
<span class="tab">All dogs eat their shit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.coopertoons.com/merryhistory/martial/valeriusmartial_CKftPI.html#martial_poetry:~:text=Your%20puppy%20licks,eat%20their%20shit.">Cooper</a>]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  90 (1.90) (AD 85-86) [tr. Sedley (1702)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That I ne&#8217;er saw thee in a Coach with Man, Nor thy chaste Name in wanton satire met; That from thy sex thy liking never ran, So as to suffer a Male-servant yet; I thought thee the Lucretia of our time: But, Bassa, thou the while a Tribas wert, And clashing &#8212; with a prodigious [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I ne&#8217;er saw thee in a Coach with Man,<br />
<span class="tab">Nor thy chaste Name in wanton satire met;<br />
That from thy sex thy liking never ran,<br />
<span class="tab">So as to suffer a Male-servant yet;<br />
I thought thee the Lucretia of our time:<br />
<span class="tab">But, Bassa, thou the while a Tribas wert,<br />
And clashing &#8212; with a prodigious Crime<br />
<span class="tab">Didst act of Man th&#8217; inimitable part.<br />
What Oedipus this Riddle can untie?<br />
<span class="tab">Without a Male there was Adultery.</p>
<p><em>[Quod numquam maribus iunctam te, Bassa, videbam<br />
Quodque tibi moechum fabula nulla dabat,<br />
Omne sed officium circa te semper obibat<br />
Turba tui sexus, non adeunte viro,<br />
Esse videbaris, fateor, Lucretia nobis:<br />
At tu, pro facinus, Bassa, fututor eras.<br />
Inter se geminos audes committere cunnos<br />
Mentiturque virum prodigiosa Venus.<br />
Commenta es dignum Thebano aenigmate monstrum,<br />
Hic ubi vir non est, ut sit adulterium.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  90 (1.90) (AD 85-86) [tr. Sedley (1702)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22thee%20the%20lucretia%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Bassa". This epigram is often untranslated or omitted in collections. Martial thought lesbian sexuality perverse, though he enjoyed and wrote highly of pederasty, as any good Roman male would. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.90">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>That with the males thou ne'er wast known to mix,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor e'er gallant did envious slander fix;<br>
That thine officious sex thee homag'd round,<br>
<span class="tab">And not a man durst taint the hallow'd ground:<br>
What less than a Lucretia could'st thou be?<br>
<span class="tab">Ah! what was found? Th' adulterer in thee,<br>
To  make the mounts collide emerg'd they plan,<br>
<span class="tab">And monstrous Venus would bely the man.<br>
Thou a new Theban torture could'st explore,<br>
<span class="tab">And bid adult'ry need a male no more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20less%20than%20a%20lucretia%22">Hay</a> (1755); Book 6, Part 3, ep. 44]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Inasmuch as I never saw you, Bassa, surrounded by a crowd of admirers, and report in no case assigned to you a favoured lover; but every duty about your person was constantly performed by a crowd of your own sex, without the presence of even one man; you seemed to me, I confess it, to be a Lucretia.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=Inasmuch%20as%20I%20never%20saw%20you%2C%20Bassa%2C%20surrounded%20by%20a%20crowd%20of%20admirers%2C%20and%20report%20in%20no%20case%20assigned%20to%20you%20a%20favoured%20lover%3B%20but%20every%20duty%20about%20your%20person%20was%20constantly%20performed%20by%20a%20crowd%20of%20your%20own%20sex%2C%20without%20the%20presence%20of%20even%20one%20man%3B%20you%20seemed%20to%20me%2C%20I%20confess%20it%2C%20to%20be%20a%20Lucretia.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897), "On Bassa"; the "translation" then shifts to the original Latin.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In that I never saw you, Bassa, intimate with men, and that no scandal assigned you a lover, but every office a throng of your own sex round you performed without the approach of man -- you seemed to me, I confess, a Lucretia; yet, Bassa -- oh, monstrous! -- you are, it seems, a nondescript. You dare things unspeakable, and your portentous lust imitates man. You have invented a prodigy worthy of the Theban riddle, that here, where no man is, should be adultery!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bassa%20intimate%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Never having seen you taking a man's arm, Bassa,<br>
realizing that no gossip attaches a lover to you,<br>
noticing how you were always surrounded<br>
by a throng of your own sex doing things for you<br>
and letting no man approach you, I admit I felt<br>
that we had another Lucretia in you.<br>
But you were doing the raping, Bassa,<br>
working out ways for identical twin genitals<br>
to double their fun by pretending that one -- yours --<br>
was the man in this case, a barefaced lie<br>
you've conjured up a riddle only the Sphinx could solve:<br>
<span class="tab">Adultery, without any man involved. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/70/mode/2up?q=bassa">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I never saw you close to men, Bassa, and no rumor gave you a lover. You were always surrounded by a crowd of your own sex, performing every office, with no man coming near you. So I confess I thought you a Lucretia; but Bassa, for shame, you were a fornicator. You dare to join two cunts and your monstrous organ feigns masculinity. You have invented a portent worthy of the Theban riddle: where no man is, there is adultery.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=I%20never%20saw,there%20is%20adultery.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I never saw you, Bassa, with a man<br>
<span class="tab">No rumor ever spread of an affair.<br>
You seemed as chaste as any woman can,<br>
<span class="tab">With Lucrece pure you made a worthy pair.<br>
Belatedly I found I venerated,<br>
<span class="tab">A woman who a woman penetrated.<br>
You found an amphisbaenic instrument --<br>
<span class="tab">To give cunts simultaneous content.<br>
You pose a riddle Sphinxes never knew,<br>
<span class="tab">To be a woman and a woman screw.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22bassa%20with%20a%20man%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bassa, I never saw you hang with guys --<br>
Nobody whispered that you had a beau.<br>
Girls surrounded you at every turn;<br>
They did your errands, with no attendant males.<br>
And so, I guess I naturally assumed<br>
That you were what you seemed: a chaste Lucretia.<br>
But hell no. Why, you shameless little tramp,<br>
You were an active humper all the time.<br>
You improvised, by rubbing cunts together,<br>
And using that bionic clit of yours<br>
To counterfeit the thrusting of a male.<br>
Unbelievable. You’ve managed to create<br>
A real conundrum, worthy of the Sphinx:<br>
Adultery without a co-respondent.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.barefootmuse.com/archives/issue7/salemi2.htm#:~:text=Epigram%20I.90,a%20co%2Drespondent.">Salemi</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bassa, I never saw you close to men; no gossip linked you to a lover here.<br>
<span class="tab">A crowd of your own sex was always with you at every function, no man coming near.<br>
I have to say, I thought you a Lucretia, but you (for shame!) were fucking even then.<br>
<span class="tab">You dare link twin cunts and, with your monstrous clitoris, pretend to fuck like men.<br>
You'd suit a Theban riddle perfectly: <br>
<span class="tab">where there's no man, there's still adultery.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&pg=PR7&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=snippet&q=%22close%20to%20men%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  1, epigram  91 (1.91) (AD 85-86) [tr. Nixon (1911)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You damn every poem I write, Yet you won&#8217;t publish those of your own. Now kindly let yours see the light, Or else leave my damned ones alone. [Cum tua non edas, carpis mea carmina, Laeli. Carpere vel noli nostra vel ede tua.] &#8220;To Lælius&#8221;. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Thou blam&#8217;st my verses and conceal&#8217;st [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You damn every poem I write,<br />
<span class="tab">Yet you won&#8217;t publish those of your own.<br />
Now kindly let yours see the light,<br />
<span class="tab">Or else leave my damned ones alone.</p>
<p><em>[Cum tua non edas, carpis mea carmina, Laeli.<br />
Carpere vel noli nostra vel ede tua.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram  91 (1.91) (AD 85-86) [tr. Nixon (1911)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/12/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Lælius". (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.91">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou blam'st my verses and conceal'st thine own:<br>
Or publish thine, or else let mine alone!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA71">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You do not publish your own verses, Laelius; you criticise mine. Pray cease to criticise mine, or else publish your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=You%20do%20not%20publish%20your%20own%20verses%2C%20Laelius%3B%20you%20criticise%20mine.%20Pray%20cease%20to%20criticise%20mine%2C%20or%20else%20publish%20your%20own.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you don't publish your own, you carp at my poems, Laelius. Either do not carp at mine, or publish your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=laelius">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You blame my verse; to publish you decline;<br>
Show us your own or cease to carp at mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/30/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you have not published<br>
<span class="tab">Even a single line<br>
Of poetry yourself, you scoff<br>
<span class="tab">And sneer and jeer at mine.<br>
Get off my back or publish!<br>
<span class="tab">I'd like to hear you whine!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/12/mode/2up?q=%22to+laelius%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you don't punish anything, Laelius,<br>
you keep finding fault with my songs. So please,<br>
stop criticizing my stuff, or publish your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/70/mode/2up?q=laelius">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you don't publish your own poems, Laelius, you carp at mine. Either don't carp at mine or publish your own. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Although%20you%20don%27t%20publish%20your%20own%20poems%2C%20Laelius%2C%20you%20carp%20at%20mine.%20Either%20don%27t%20carp%20at%20mine%20or%20publish%20your%20own.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Each poem I publish you loudly bemoan.<br>
Unfair that you never share works of your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You don’t write poems, Laelius, you criticise mine. Stop criticising me or write your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=You%20don%E2%80%99t%20write,write%20your%20own.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With carpings you my works revile.<br>
<span class="tab">Your own you never publish.<br>
Without such works, your carpings I'll<br>
<span class="tab">Consider snooty rubbish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=1.91">Wills</a> (2007), "The Critic"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You blast my verses, Laelius; yours aren’t shown.<br>
Either don’t carp at mine or show your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR8#v=onepage&q=laelius&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You won’t reveal your verse,<br>
<span class="tab">but whine that mine is worse.<br>
Just leave me alone<br>
<span class="tab">or publish your own.<br>
[tr. Juster (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You never wrote a poem,<br>
<span class="tab">yet criticize mine?<br>
<span class="tab">Stop abusing me or write something fine<br>
of your own!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/14944085-Martial-translations-by-Michael-R.-Burch#:~:text=You%20never%20wrote%20a%20poem">Burch</a> (c. 2017)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Write shorter epigrams,” is your advice. Yet you write nothing, Velox. How concise! [Scribere me quereris, Velox, epigrammata longa. Ipse nihil scribis: tu breviora facis.] &#8220;To Velox.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Velox complains my epigrams are long, When he writes none: he sings a shorter song. [tr. Fletcher (c. 1650)] You say my epigrams, Velox, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Write shorter epigrams,” is your advice.<br />
Yet you write nothing, Velox. How concise!</p>
<p><em>[Scribere me quereris, Velox, epigrammata longa.<br />
Ipse nihil scribis: tu breviora facis.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  1, epigram 110 (1.110) (AD 85-86) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR5#v=onepage&q=velox&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Velox." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:1.110">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Velox complains my epigrams are long,<br>
When he writes none: he sings a shorter song.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20velox%22">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You say my epigrams, Velox, too long are:<br>
You nothing write; sure yours are shorter far.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/88/mode/2up">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of my long epigrams, you, Swift, complain;<br>
And nothing write: I laud your shorter strain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20long%20epigrams%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 16, "To Velox, or Swift"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You complain, Velox, that the epigrams which I write are long. You yourself write nothing; your attempts are shorter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book01.htm#:~:text=You%20complain%2C%20Velox%2C%20that%20the%20epigrams%20which%20I%20write%20are%20long.%20You%20yourself%20write%20nothing%3B%20your%20attempts%20are%20shorter.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You complain, Velox, that I write long epigrams, you yourself write nothing. Yours are shorter.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22complain%20velox%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Such lengthy epigrams," you say, "affright one."<br>
True, yours are shorter, for you never write one.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22to+velox%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Velox, I make my epigrams too long, you snort?<br>
You don't write any: That's making them too short.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/76/mode/2up?q=velox">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Velox, you complain that I write long epigrams, and yourself write nothing. Do you make shorter ones?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Velox%2C%20you%20eomplain%20that%20I%20write%20long%20epigrams%2C%20and%20yourselfwrite%20nothing.%20Do%20you%20make%20shorter%20ones%3F">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You say I write lines longer than I ought?<br>
It's true your lines are shorter -- they are nought.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT46&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22write%20lines%20longer%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You say my epigrams are too long.<br>
Yours are shorter.<br>
You write nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20long%22">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Nothing"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Swifty, you moan that I write long epigrams. You aren't writing anything yourself; is that you making shorter ones?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22them%20both%20paintings%22%20epigrams">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My epigrams are word, you've complained;<br>
But you write nothing. Yours are more restrained.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22epigrams%20are%20wordy%22">O'Connell</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>“Much too long” you say, Velox, censorious,<br>
Of my epigrams -- that’s quite uproarious.<br>
You write none. Your brevity is glorious.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=BY%20GARY%20SCHMIDGALL-,i.110,-%22Much%20too%20long">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You call my epigrams verbose and lacking in concision<br>
while you yourself write nothing. Wise decision.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Short%20Enough%3F,Brooke%20Clark">Clark</a>, "Short Enough?"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My epigrams are wordy, you’ve complained;<br>
But you write nothing. Yours are more restrained.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=My%20epigrams%20are%20wordy,Raymond%20Oliver">Oliver</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul reads as his own all the poems he buys. Well, all that he pays for is his, I surmise. [Carmina Paulus emit, recitat sua carmina Paulus. Nam quod emas, possis iure vocare tuum.] Martial returns to this theme (and Paulus) in epigram 6.12. Original Latin. Other translations: Paulus buys verse, recites, and owns them [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul reads as his own all the poems he buys.<br />
Well, all that he pays for is his, I surmise.</p>
<p><em>[Carmina Paulus emit, recitat sua carmina Paulus.<br />
Nam quod emas, possis iure vocare tuum.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  20 (2.20) (AD 86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/50/mode/2up?q=%22Paul+reads+as+his+own%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Martial returns to this theme (and Paulus) in <a href="https://wist.info/martial/52309/">epigram 6.12</a>. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22carmina+paulus%22">Original Latin</a>. Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Paulus buys verse, recites, and owns them all,<br>
For what thou buy'st, thou may'st thine truly call.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xx.%20on%20paulus%22&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Bought verses for his own Paul doth recite,<br>
For what you buy you may call yours by right.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xx.%20on%20paulus%22&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paul verses buys; and what he buys, recites.<br>
Alike his own are what he buys and writes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20Elphinston&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22buys%20and%20writes%22">Elphinson</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sly Paul buys verse as he buys merchandise,<br>
<span class="tab">Then for his own he'll pompously recite it --<br>
Paul scorns a lie -- the poetry is his --<br>
<span class="tab">By law his own, although he could not write it.<br>
[tr. <i><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22xx.%20on%20paulus%22&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover">New Monthly Magazine</a></i> (1825)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paulus buys verses; Paulus recites his own verses. And they are his own, for that which you buy, you have a right to call yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/44/mode/2up?q=paulus">Amos</a> (1858), 2.32]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paullus buys poems, and aloud,<br>
<span class="tab">As his, recites them to the crowd.<br>
For what you buy it is well known<br>
<span class="tab">You have a right to call your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22Paullus+buys+poems%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paulus buys verses: Paulus recites his own verses; and what you buy you may legally call your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=paulus%20buys%20verses%3A%20paulus%20recites%20his%20own%20verses%3B%20and%20what%20you%20buy%20you%20may%20legally%20call%20your%20own.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Paullus buys poems; his own poems he'll recite,<br>
For what he buys is surely his by right.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22buys%20is%20surely%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Paulus buys a book of verse<br>
<span class="tab">And reads us then his own.<br>
One's right, of course, to what one buys<br>
<span class="tab">Can legally be shown.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22paulus+buys%22">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paul buys up poems, and to your surprise,<br>
Paul then recites them as his own:<br>
And Paul is right; for what a person buys<br>
Is his, as can by law be shown!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=paul%20buys%20up%20poems%2C%20and%20to%20your%20surprise%2C%20paul%20then%20recites%20them%20as%20his%20own%3A%20and%20paul%20is%20right%3B%20for%20what%20a%20person%20buys%20is%20his%2C%20as%20can%20by%20law%20be%20shown!">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Paulus buys poems, Paulus recites<br>
his own poems. What you can buy<br>
you are entitled to call your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/90/mode/2up?q=paulus">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He buys up poems for recital<br>
<span class="tab">And then as "author" reads.<br>
Why not? The purchase proves the title.<br>
<span class="tab">our words become his "deeds."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22poems+for+recital%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Paulus buys poems, Paulus recites his poems. For what you buy, you may rightly call your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Paulus%20buys%20poems%2C%20Paulus%20recites%20his%20poems.%20For%20what%20you%20buy%2C%20you%20may%20rightly%20call%20your%20own.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Paulus buys poems; Paulus gives readings from his poems.<br>
After all, what you buy you can rightfully call your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20HARRINGTON&pg=PA33&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22paulus%20buys%20poems%22">Williams</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A poet's name is what you sought.<br>
The name, you found, is all you bought.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22a%20poet's%20name%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Paulus buys verse, which he recites as his,<br>
for if the things you buy aren't yours, what is?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/14/mode/2up?q=%22paulus+buys%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Paul is reciting poems he buys.<br>
At least he doesn’t plagiarize.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2017/06/03/around-the-scuttlebutt-brief-poems-by-a-m-juster/#:~:text=2.20,he%20doesn%E2%80%99t%20plagiarize.">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>



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		<description><![CDATA[I had hardly thought by asking For five hundred I&#8217;d be tasking The kindness of a rich old friend like you. &#8220;Practice law,&#8221; you said, &#8220;it&#8217;s healthy, And it soon will make you wealthy.&#8221; Now, Gaius, tell me &#8220;Yes,&#8221; not what to do. [Mutua viginti sestertia forte rogabam, Quae vel donanti non grave munus erat. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hardly thought by asking<br />
For five hundred I&#8217;d be tasking<br />
<span class="tab">The kindness of a rich old friend like you.<br />
&#8220;Practice law,&#8221; you said, &#8220;it&#8217;s healthy,<br />
And it soon will make you wealthy.&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">Now, Gaius, tell me &#8220;Yes,&#8221; not what to do.</p>
<p><em>[Mutua viginti sestertia forte rogabam,<br />
Quae vel donanti non grave munus erat.<br />
Quippe rogabatur felixque vetusque sodalis<br />
Et cuius laxas arca flagellat opes.<br />
Is mihi &#8216;Dives eris, si causas egeris&#8217; inquit.<br />
Quod peto da, Gai: non peto consilium.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  30 (2.30) (AD 86) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;Neither a Borrower&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/38/mode/2up?q=gaius" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Caius/Gaius." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:2.30">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When twenty pounds I'd borrow of a friend,<br>
<span class="tab">One, who might give me more, as well as lend;<br>
Blest in his fortune; my companion old;<br>
<span class="tab">Whose coffers, and whose purse-strings, crack with gold.<br>
"Turn lawyer, and you'll soon grow rich," he cries:<br>
<span class="tab">Give me what I ask, my friend: -- 'tis not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22twenty%20pounds%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of sesterces a score I crave in loan,<br>
<span class="tab">Which scarce a boon would honest bounty own.<br>
A fortune-blest old intimate I urge,<br>
<span class="tab">Whose gen'rous wealth tyrannic coffers scourge.<br>
"Go, ply the bar: be affluent in a trice."<br>
<span class="tab">I ask your aid, my Cay, not your advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22sesterces%20a%20score%20i%20crave%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 31]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked Caius to lend me twenty sestertia, a sum which could not weigh heavy on him, even if he had been asked to give and not to lend; for he was my old companion, and hd been fortunate in life; and his chest can scarcely press down his overflowing riches. He replied to me, "You will become wealthy if you will take to pleading causes." Caius! give me what I ask for, I do not ask for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/120/mode/2up?q=%22ep.+xxx%22">Amos</a> (1858), "Unseasonable Advice"; ch. 3, ep. 89]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked, by chance, a loan of twenty thousand sesterces, which would have been no serious matter even as a present. He whom I asked was an old acquaintance in good circumstances, whose money-chest finds difficulty in imprisoning his overflowing hoards. "You will enrich yourself, was his reply, "if you will go to the bar." Give me, Caius, what I ask: I do not ask advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=I%20asked%2C%20by,not%20ask%20advice.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked, as it chanced, the loan of twenty thousand sesterces, which, even to a give, would have been no burden. The fact was I asked them of a well-to-do and old friend, and one whose money-chest keeps in control o'erflowing wealth. His answer was, "You will be rich if you plead causes." Give me what I ask, Gaius: I don't ask for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22twenty%20thousand%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I chanced to ask a loan -- a hundred, merely;<br>
<span class="tab">E'en as a gift that should not task severely<br>
A wealthy friend, and so I asked him, knowing<br>
<span class="tab">His pockets bulge with cash over-flowing.<br>
"Go to the Bar," says he, "get rich by pleading" --<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis cash, not counsel, Gaius, that I'm needing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22to+gaius%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I asked you twenty thousand as a loan,<br>
<span class="tab">A trifle, had I craved it for my own,<br>
Such claim might ancient friendship well afford<br>
<span class="tab">On one whose coffers chid their bursting hoard.<br>
"Plead and you'll make a fortune in a trice."<br>
<span class="tab">I want your money, Gaius, not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ii.%20xxx%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 79]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I asked a rich old friend of mine<br>
for a loan of twenty thousand:<br>
No trouble at all for him to give it to me,<br>
he was so loaded. But in answer to my request<br>
he said, "You know what? You want to make money?<br>
Become a lawyer." Look, Gaius:<br>
I asked you for money, not for advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22rich+old+friend%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>I happened to ask a Ioan of twenty thousand sesterces, no burdensome present even as a gift. He of whom I asked it was a faithful old friend, he whose coffer whips up his ample wealth. Says he to me: "You'll be a rich man if you plead cases." Give me what I ask, Gaius; I'm not asking advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=I%20happened%20to%20ask%20a%20Ioan%20of%20twenty%20thousand%20sesterces%2C%20no%20burdensome%20present%20even%20as%20a%20gift.%20He%20of%20whom%20I%20asked%20it%20was%20a%20faithful%20old%20friend%2C%20e">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I need a loan of twenty grand.<br>
<span class="tab">Can you lend a helping hand?<br>
We're friends, it's not a huge amount<br>
<span class="tab">Against your massive bank account.<br>
But your reply? "Go practice law,<br>
<span class="tab">it's easy to get rich, ha-ha!"<br>
So here's a thought on which to chew:<br>
<span class="tab">No job advice I asked from you.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I chanced to seek a loan of twenty thousand --<br>
<span class="tab">which one could give away and not think twice.<br>
The man I asked, a trusted longtime friend,<br>
<span class="tab">whose strongbox whips up riches in a trice,<br>
said, "Be a lawyer. You'll make piles of cash."<br>
<span class="tab">I asked for money, Gaius, not advice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22twenty+thousand%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[You ask me how my farm can pay, Since little it will bear; It pays me thus &#8212; &#8216;Tis far away And you are never there. [Quid mini reddat ager quaeris, Line, Nomentanus? Hoc mini reddit ager: te, Line, non video.] Original Latin. Other translations: Linus, dost ask what my field yields to me? Even [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ask me how my farm can pay,<br />
<span class="tab">Since little it will bear;<br />
It pays me thus &#8212; &#8216;Tis far away<br />
<span class="tab">And you are never there.</p>
<p><em>[Quid mini reddat ager quaeris, Line, Nomentanus?<br />
Hoc mini reddit ager: te, Line, non video.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  38 (2.38) (AD 86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22xxxviii+to+linus%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/sclKAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Quid%20mihi%20reddat%20ager%20quaeris%22&pg=PA130&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Quid%20mihi%20reddat%20ager%20quaeris%22">Original Latin</a>. Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Linus, dost ask what my field yields to me?<br>
Even this profit, that I ne'er see thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20nomentane%20field%22&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What my farm yields me, doest thou urge to know?<br>
This, that I see not thee, when there I go.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20nomentane%20field%22&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask what profit my Nomentan estate brings me, Linus? My estate brings me this profit, that I do not see you, Linus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20ask%20what%20profit%20my%20Nomentan%20estate%20brings%20me%2C%20Linus%3F%20My%20estate%20brings%20me%20this%20profit%2C%20that%20I%20do%20not%20see%20you%2C%20Linus.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ask you what my Nomentane fields<br>
<span class="tab">Can yield me, Linus, bleak and few?<br>
For me my farm this, Linus, yields;--<br>
<span class="tab">That, when I'm there, I'm rid of you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/14/mode/2up?q=linus">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask what I grow on my Sabine estate.<br>
A reliable answer is due.<br>
<span class="tab">I grow on that soil -- <br>
<span class="tab">Far from urban turmoil --<br>
Very happy at not seeing you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22to+linus%22">Nixon</a> (1911)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, Linus, what my Nomentan farm returns me? This my land returns me: I don't see you, Linus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA131">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask of my Nomentan farm<br>
<span class="tab">How such a barren waste can charm.<br>
One reason is, I find no trace<br>
<span class="tab">There, Linus, of your ugly face.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Nomentan%20farm%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #83] </blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Linus, you mock my distant farm,<br>
<span class="tab">And ask what good it is to me?<br>
Well, it has got at least one charm --<br>
<span class="tab">When there, from Linus I am free!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Linus%2C%20you%20mock,I%20am%20free!">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You don't see what I see, you say,<br>
<span class="tab">In living here so far away?<br>
What I see, Linus, is a view<br>
<span class="tab">In which I see no sign of you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/22/mode/2up?q=linus">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What return on my real estate at Nomentum?<br>
Up there i get out of seeing you, Linus.<br>
That's what I get out of it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/96/mode/2up?q=nomentum">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me what I get<br>
<span class="tab">Out of my country place.<br>
The profit, gross or net,<br>
<span class="tab">Is never seeing your face.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22country+place%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Linus, you ask me what I get out of my land near Nomentum. This is what I get out of the land: I don't see you, Linus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Linus%2C%20you%20ask%20rne%20what%20I%20get%20out%20of%20rny%20land%20near%20Nomentum.%20This%20is%20wh%20at%20I%20get%20out%20of%20the%20land%3A%20I%20don%27t%20see%20you%2C%20Linus.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You ask what my estate at Nomentum produces for me? It produces this: that I don't see you, Linus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA12&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22estate%20at%20nomentum%20produces%22">Williams</a> (2003)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask me why I like the country air.<br>
I never meet you there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=country%20air">Kennelly</a> (2004), "The Reason"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask what I see in my farm near Nomentum, Linus?<br>
What I see in it, Linus, is: from there I can’t see you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=You%20ask%20what,can%E2%80%99t%20see%20you.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What, Linus, can my farm be minus<br>
When it successfully lacks Linus?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT19&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22farm%20be%20minus%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask me why I like the country air.<br>
I never meet you there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22like%20the%20country%22">Kennelly</a> (2008)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>What yield does my Nomentan farmstead bear?<br>
Linus, I don’t see you when I am there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA16&vq=%22what%20yield%22&pg=PA16#v=snippet&q=%22what%20yield%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

 


<blockquote>You're wondering what the yield is from my farm at Nomentum, Linus? Here's the yield form my farm: Linus, I don't have to look at you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA69&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22nomentum%20linus%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You ask me why I love fresh country air?<br>
You’re not befouling it there.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.thehypertexts.com/Michael%20R.%20Burch%20Epigrams%20and%20Quotes.htm#:~:text=You%20ask%20me%20why%20I%20love%20fresh%20country%20air%3F%0AYou%27re%20not%20befouling%20it%20there.">Burch</a> (c. 2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me why I choose to live elsewhere?
You're not there.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.thehypertexts.com/Michael%20R.%20Burch%20Epigrams%20and%20Quotes.htm#:~:text=You%20ask%20me%20why%20I%20choose%20to%20live%20elsewhere%3F%0AYou%27re%20not%20there.">Burch</a> (c. 2017)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ask you what my Nomentane field brings me?<br>
This, Linus, 'mongst the rest, I ne'er see thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20nomentane%20field%22&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a>]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>You wonder if my farm pays me its share?<br>
It pays me this: I do not see you there.<br>
[tr. Oliver]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask me, Roger, what I gain<br>
<span class="tab">By living on this barren plain.<br>
This credit to the spot is due,<br>
<span class="tab">I live there without seeing you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_Ancient_and_Modern_humorous_wit/SyBYAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20ask%20me%20roger%22">Cowper</a>]</blockquote><br>



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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  2, epigram  41 (2.41.1) (AD 86) [tr. Ker (1919)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laugh if you are wise, O girl, laugh. [Ride, si sapis, o puella, ride.] &#8220;To Maximina.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Martial says he thinks he&#8217;s quoting Ovid, but it aligns with nothing known or still extant from that poet. As the phrase is hendecasyllabic, and Ovid is not known to have published anything in that meter, it [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laugh if you are wise, O girl, laugh.</p>
<p><em>[Ride, si sapis, o puella, ride.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  41 (2.41.1) (AD 86) [tr. Ker (1919)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22laugh%20if%20you%20are%20wise%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Maximina." (<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D2%3Apoem%3D41#:~:text=%27Ride%20si%20sapis%2C%20o%20puella%2C%20ride%27">Source (Latin)</a>). <br><br>

Martial says he thinks he's quoting Ovid, but it aligns with nothing known or still extant from that poet. As the phrase is hendecasyllabic, and Ovid is not known to have published anything in that meter, it is at the very least believed a paraphrase. It is still usually credited as a fragment for Ovid. It's ironic, since it is the point of this Martial epigram, that in <i>Ars Amatoria</i> 3.279ff, Ovid warns against laughing if one's teeth are bad; see <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22line%20ride%20si%20sapis%22">Williams</a> for more discussion.<br><br>

Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Laugh, my girl, laugh, if you bee wise.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bee%20wise%22">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Laugh, lovely maid, laugh oft, if thou art wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22laugh%20oft%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Laugh, my pretty damsel, laugh;<br>
If thou'rt cunning, but by half.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22laugh%20my%20pretty%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Smile, O damsel, if you are wise, smile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/130/mode/2up?q=maximina">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 101]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Laugh if thou art wise, girl, laugh.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20maximina%22">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Laugh if you are wise, girl, laugh<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=Laugh%20if%20you%20are%20wise%2C%20girl%2C%20laugh">Bohn's Classical</a> (1871)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Laugh, if thou be wise.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22laugh%20if%20thou%20be%20wise%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Laugh, maiden, laugh, if thou be wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/56/mode/2up?q=laugh">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Smile, maiden, smile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22smile%20maiden%20smile%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 86]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Laugh, girl, laugh if you're sensible.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22laugh+girl%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Laugh if you have any sense, girl, laugh.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Laugh%20if%20you%20have%20any%20sense%2C%20girl%2C%20laugh.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Laugh, girl; if you're clever, laugh!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22laugh%20girl%22">Williams</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  2, epigram  55 (2.55) (AD 86) [tr. Michie (1972)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to love you: you prefer To have me as your courtier. Well, I must follow your direction. But goodbye, Sextus, to affection. [Vis te, Sexte, coli: volebam amare. Parendum est tibi: quod iubes, coleris: Sed si te colo, Sexte, non amabo.] &#8220;To Sextus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: I Offer Love, but thou Respect [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to love you: you prefer<br />
<span class="tab">To have me as your courtier.<br />
Well, I must follow your direction.<br />
<span class="tab">But goodbye, Sextus, to affection.</p>
<p><em>[Vis te, Sexte, coli: volebam amare.<br />
Parendum est tibi: quod iubes, coleris:<br />
Sed si te colo, Sexte, non amabo.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  55 (2.55) (AD 86) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22wanted+to+love%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Sextus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:2.55">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I Offer Love, but thou Respect wilt have;<br>
Take, Sextus, all thy Pride and Folly crave:<br>
But know I can be no Man's Friend and Slave.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22Respect+wilt%22">Sedley</a> (1702)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The more I honour thee, the less I love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/198/mode/2up?q=%22honour+thee%22">Johnson</a> (c. 1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yes, I submit, my lord; you've gained your end:<br>
<span class="tab">I'm now your slave -- that would have been your friend;<br>
I'll bow, I'll cringe, be supple as your glove;<br>
<span class="tab">-- Respect, adore you -- ev'rything but -- love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=Yes%3B%20I%20submit%2C%20my%20lord%3B%20you%27ve%20gained%20your%20end%3A%C2%A0%0AI%27m%20now%20your%20slave%2D%2D%2D%2Dthat%20would%20have%20been%20your%20friend%3B%C2%A0%0AI%27ll%20bow%2C%20I%27ll%20cringe%2C%20be%20supple%20as%20your%20glove%3B%0A%2D%2D%2D%2DRespect%2C%20adore%20you%2D%2D%2D%2Dev%27rything%20but%2D%2D%2D%2Dlove.%C2%A0%0A%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%20Rev.%20R.%20Graves">Graves</a> (1766)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sextus, would'st though courted be?<br>
<span class="tab">I had hopes of loving thee.<br>
If thou wilt, I must obey;<br>
<span class="tab">I shall court thee, nor delay.<br>
Dost thou ceremony seek?<br>
<span class="tab">And renounce my friendship? Speak.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22courted%20be%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To love you well you bid me know you better,<br>
<span class="tab">And for that wish I rest your humble debtor;<br>
But, if the simple truth I may express,<br>
<span class="tab">To love you better, I must know you less.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/240/mode/2up?q=%22humble+debtor%22">Byron</a> (c. 1820)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wish to be treated with deference, Sextus: I wished to love you. I must obey you: you shall be treated with deference, as you desire. But if I treat you with deference, I shall not love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=Yon%20wish%20to%20be%20treated%20with%20deference%2C%20Sextus%3A%20I%20wished%20to%20love%20you.%20I%20must%20obey%20you%3A%20you%20shall%20be%20treated%20with%20deference%2C%20as%20you%20desire.%20But%20if%20I%20treat%20you%20with%20deference%2C%20I%20shall%20not%20love%20you.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wish to be courted, Sextus; I wished to love you. I must obey you; as you demand, you shall be courted. But if I court you, Sextus, I shall not love you. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22wish%20to%20be%20courted%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I offered love -- you ask for awe;<br>
<span class="tab">Then I'll obey  you and revere;<br>
But don't forget the ancient saw<br>
<span class="tab">That love will never dwell with fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/62/mode/2up?q=%22offered+love%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want my respect, I wanted to love you,<br>
Sextus. I give in. Have my respect.<br>
But I cannot prefer someone I defer to.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/100/mode/2up?q=%22want+my+respect%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You would be courted, dear, and I would love you.<br>
But be it as you will, and I will court you.<br>
But if I court you, dear, I will not love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/324/mode/2up?q=%22would+be+courted%22">Cunningham</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want to be cultivated, Sextus. I wanted to love you. I must do as you say. Cultivated you shall be, as you demand. But if I cultivate you, Sextus, I shall not love you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I would love you, dear, by preference,<br>
<span class="tab">But you instead demand my deference.<br>
And so my love I will defer,<br>
<span class="tab">With courtesy, as you prefer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask for deference when I offer love; <br>
<span class="tab">So be it; you shall have my bended knee.<br>
But Sextus, by great Jupiter above,<br>
<span class="tab">Getting respect, you'll get no love from me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22ask%20for%20deference%22">Hill</a>] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want to be my patron and my friend.<br>
If you insist on patron, goodbye friend!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=2.55">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wished to love you; you would have<br>
<span class="tab">me court you. What you want must be.<br>
But if I court you, as you ask,<br>
<span class="tab">Sextus, you'll get no love from me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22wished+to+love+you%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  2, epigram  83 (2.83) (AD 86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have robbed the young gallant of nostrils and ears, And his face now of both is bereft. But your vengeance remains incomplete it appears; He has still got another part left. [Foedasti miserum, marite, moechum, Et se, qui fuerant prius, requirunt Trunci naribus auribusque voltus. Credis te satis esse vindicatum? Erras: iste potest et [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have robbed the young gallant of nostrils and ears,<br />
<span class="tab">And his face now of both is bereft.<br />
But your vengeance remains incomplete it appears;<br />
<span class="tab">He has still got another part left.</p>
<p><em>[Foedasti miserum, marite, moechum,<br />
Et se, qui fuerant prius, requirunt<br />
Trunci naribus auribusque voltus.<br />
Credis te satis esse vindicatum?<br />
Erras: iste potest et irrumare.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  83 (2.83) (AD 86) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/68/mode/2up?q=%22young+gallant%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:2.83">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou hast deform'd the poor gallant;<br>
<span class="tab">Nor could they justice mercy grant.<br>
His nose so slit and ear so tore,<br>
<span class="tab">Now seek in vain the grace they wore.<br>
Now vengeance boasts her ample due.<br>
<span class="tab">Fool! mayn't the foe the charge renew?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20poor%20gallant%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 6.2.34]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Husband, you have disfigured the wretched gallant, and his countenance, deprived of nose and ears, regrets the loss of its original form. Do you think that you are sufficiently avenged? You are mistaken: something still remains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=Husband%2C%20you%20have%20disfigured%20the%20wretched%20gallant%2C%20and%20his%20countenance%2C%20deprived%20of%20nose%20and%20ears%2C%20regrets%20the%20loss%20of%20its%20original%20form.%20Do%20you%20think%20that%20you%20are%20sufficiently%20avenged%3F%20You%20are%20mistaken%3A%20something%20still%20remains.">Bohn</a>'s Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You have disfigured, O' husband, the wretched adulterer, and his face, shorn of nose and ears, misses its former self. Do you believe you are still sufficiently avenged? You mistake; he still has other activities.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22have%20disfigured%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The cuckold finally caught the culprit,<br>
Boxed his ears and broke his jaw.<br>
But hasn't he missed the point?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/318/mode/2up?q=%22cuckold+finally+caught%22">Murray</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Oh husband, you have disfigured your wife's<br>
unhappy seducer; with his nose and ears your knife's<br>
satisfied its user. How his face misses<br>
its familiar features! This revenge, it meets your<br>
requirements? He can still ram it up their asses.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/108/mode/2up?q=disfigured">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You took a dire revenge, one hears,<br>
<span class="tab">On him who stole your wife,<br>
By cutting off his nose and ears --<br>
<span class="tab">It's marred his social life.<br>
Still there's one thing you didn't get<br>
<span class="tab">And that could cause you trouble yet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22took%20a%20dire%20revenge%22">O. Pitt-Kethley</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Husband, you mutilated your wife's unhappy lover, and his face, maimed of nose and ears, misses its former self. Do you suppose you are sufficiently avenged? You err. He can also give suck.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Husband%2C%20you%20mutilated%20your%20wife%27s%20unhappy%20lover%2C%20and%20his%20face%2C%20maimed%20of%20nose%20and%20ears%2C%20misses%20its%20former%20self.%20Do%20you%20suppose%20you%20are%20sufficiently%20avenged%3F%20You%20err.%20He%20can%20also%20give%20suck.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You have disfigured your wife's unfortunate lover, O husband: his face, deprived of nose and ears, vainly seeks its former state. Do you think you have sufficiently taken revenge? You're wrong. The man can also fuck in the mouth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22o%20husband%20his%20face%22">Williams</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The man gave you the cuckold's horn?<br>
<span class="tab">His ears and nose your knife has shorn.<br>
Have you deprived him of a screw?<br>
<span class="tab">Just ask his mouth what it can do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%222.83%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Husband, you maimed your wife's poor lover.<br>
Shorn of its nose and ears, his face<br>
looks vainly for its former grace.<br>
Do you believe you've done enough?<br>
You're wrong. He still can be sucked off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/20/mode/2up?q=%22poor+lover%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  2, epigram  86 (2.86.9-10) (AD 86) [tr. Francis &#038; Tatum (1924), #105]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Tis hard bewildering riddles to compose And labour lost to work at nonsense prose. [Turpe est difficiles habere nugas, Et stultus labor est ineptiarum.] Discussing writing elaborate or highly stylized poetry forms. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Disgraceful &#8216;t is unto a poet&#8217;s name Difficult toys to make his highest am: The labour&#8217;s foolish that doth [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis hard bewildering riddles to compose<br />
And labour lost to work at nonsense prose.</p>
<p><em>[Turpe est difficiles habere nugas,<br />
Et stultus labor est ineptiarum.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  86 (2.86.9-10) (AD 86) [tr. Francis &#038; Tatum (1924), #105] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22bewildering%20riddles%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Discussing writing elaborate or highly stylized poetry forms. (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D2%3Apoem%3D86#:~:text=Turpe%20est%20difficiles,est%20ineptiarum.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Disgraceful 't is unto a poet's name<br>
<span class="tab">Difficult toys to make his highest am:<br>
The labour's foolish that doth rack the brains<br>
<span class="tab">For things have nothing in them, but much pains.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22unto%20a%20poet%27s%20name%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How foolish is the toil of trifling cares.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.johnsonessays.com/the-rambler/employments-housewife-country/#:~:text=How%20foolish%20is%20the%20toil%20of%20trifling%20cares!">Johnson</a> (1750); he credits the translation Elphinston]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How pitifull the boast of petty feats!<br>
How idle is the toil of mean conceits!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22petty%20feats%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 2.76]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is disgraceful to be engaged in difficult trifles; and the labour spent on frivolities is foolish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22DIFFICULT+TRIFLES%22">Amos</a> (1858), 2.19]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is absurd to make one's amusements difficult; and labor expended on follies is childish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=It%20is%20absurd%20to%20make%20one%27s%20amusements%20difficult%3B%20and%20labour%20expended%20on%20follies%20is%20childish.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis mean and foolish to assign<br>
Long care and pains to trifles light.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/22/mode/2up?q=%22mean+and+foolish%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Disgraceful ’tis to treat small things as difficult;<br>
‘Tis silly to waste time on foolish trifles.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=TPENAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22treat%20small%20things%20as%20difficult%22&pg=PA289#v=onepage&q=%22treat%20small%20things%20as%20difficult%22&f=false">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis degrading to undertake difficult trifles; and foolish is the labour spent on puerilities.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22difficult%20trifles%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>'Tis hard bewildering riddles to compose<br>
And labor lost to work at nonsense prose.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22hard%20bewildering%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>It's demeaning to make difficulties out of trifles, and labor over frivolities is foolish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=It%27s%20demeaning%20to%20make%20difficulties%20out%20of%20trifles%2C%20and%20labor%20over%20frivolities%20is%20foolish.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is absurd to make trifling poetry difficult, and hard work on frivolities is foolish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22trifling%20poetry%22">Williams</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

The Latin phrase was used by <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/spectator/spectator470.htm#:~:text=Turpe%20est%20difficiles%20habere%20nugas%2C%0AEt%20stultus%20labor%20est%20ineptiarum%E2%80%94Mart%2C">Addison</a> as the epigram of <i>The Spectator</i> #470 (29 Aug 1712).<br>
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		<description><![CDATA[You recite no verse, Mamercus, but claim you write. Claim what you like &#8212; so long as you don’t recite. [Nil recitas et vis, Mamerce, poeta videri. Quidquid vis esto, dummodo nil recites.] &#8220;To Mamercus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: You&#8217;d Poet seem, yet nothing you rehearse: Be what you will, so we ne&#8217;er hear your [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You recite no verse, Mamercus, but claim you write.<br />
Claim what you like &#8212; so long as you don’t recite.</p>
<p><em>[Nil recitas et vis, Mamerce, poeta videri.<br />
Quidquid vis esto, dummodo nil recites.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  2, epigram  88 (2.88) (AD 86) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/22/mode/2up?q=mamercus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Mamercus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:2.88">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You'd Poet seem, yet nothing you rehearse:<br>
Be what you will, so we ne'er hear your verse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22You%20recite%20nothing%22">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou would'st a poet be, yet nought dost write:<br>
Be what thou wilt, so nought thou dost indite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22You%20recite%20nothing%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Arthur, they say, has wit. "For what?<br>
For writing?" No -- for writing not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_Ancient_and_Modern_humorous_wit/SyBYAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22arthur,%20they%20say%22">Swift</a> (early 18th C)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Nought you recite, and would be pris'd a poet?<br>
Be what you will, so no reciting blow it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22nought%20you%20recite%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.18]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You don't recite, but would be deemed a poet;<br>
You shall be Homer -- so you do not show it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/240/mode/2up">Byron</a> (early 19th C)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You don't recite; but still would <i>seem</i> a poet.<br>
You shall be Homer, so you do not show it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Sentimental_Library/r4gspvfPug0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=byron+%22you+don%27t+recite+but%22&pg=RA2-PA43&printsec=frontcover">Byron</a> (early 19th C), alt.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You recite nothing, and you wish, Mamercus, to be thought a poet. Be whatever you will, only do not recite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book02.htm#:~:text=You%20recite%20nothing%2C%20and%20you%20wish%2C%20Mamercus%2C%20to%20be%20thought%20a%20poet.%20Be%20whatever%20you%20will%2C%20only%20do%20not%20recite.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though you never have read us a line of your verse,<br>
You insist on our thinking you write.<br>
Yes, yes, be a poet; be anything else --<br>
If only you'll forbear to recite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/12/mode/2up?q=mamercus">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You recite nothing, and yet wish, Mamercus, to be held a poet. Be what you like -- provided you recite nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20recite%20nothing%22&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You never recite, though you pose as a poet.<br>
Well, for that many thanks: we will gladly forgo it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22to+mamercus%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You'd like to be thought of as a poet<br>
but refuse to recite your material?<br>
Be what you want, Mammercus; the public<br>
will tolerate you so long as you don't inflict<br>
your verse on public nerves.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/110/mode/2up?q=mammercus">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You recite nothing and want to be considered a poet, Mamercus. Be what you like, so long as you recite nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20recite%20nothing%20and%20want%20to%20be%20considered%20a%20poet%2C%20Mamercus.%20Be%20what%20you%20like%2C%20so%20long%20as%20you%20recite%20nothing.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the verse Cinna writes I am slandered, it&#8217;s said. But the man doesn&#8217;t write Whose verses aren&#8217;t read. [Versiculos in me narratur scribere Cinna. Non scribit, cuius carmina nemo legit.] &#8220;On Cinna.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Cinna writes verses against me, &#8217;tis said: He writes not, whose bad verse no man doth read. [tr. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the verse Cinna writes<br />
<span class="tab">I am slandered, it&#8217;s said.<br />
But the man doesn&#8217;t write<br />
<span class="tab">Whose verses aren&#8217;t read.</p>
<p><em>[Versiculos in me narratur scribere Cinna.<br />
Non scribit, cuius carmina nemo legit.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram   9 (3.9) (AD 87-88) [tr. Nixon (1911)] 
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"On Cinna." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.9">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Cinna writes verses against me, 'tis said:<br>
He writes not, whose bad verse no man doth read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=ix.%20%22on%20cinna%22">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Against me Cinna, as I hear, indites;<br>
Since none him reads, who can affirm he writes?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=ix.%20%22on%20cinna%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Cinna's verse upon me, they say, keenly procedes.<br>
He's beli'd: for he writes not, whom nobody reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA444&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22cinna's%20verse%20upon%20me%22">Elphinston</a> (1782). 12.23]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Jack writes severe lampoons on me, 'tis said<br>
----But he writes nothing, who is never read. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=ix.%20%22on%20cinna%22">Hodgson</a> (c. 1810)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, I am told, is a writer of small squibs against me. A man cannot be called a writer, whose effusions no one reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=Cinna%2C%20I%20am%20told%2C%20is%20a%20writer%20of%20small%20squibs%20against%20me.%20A%20man%20cannot%20be%20called%20a%20writer%2C%20whose%20effusions%20no%20one%20reads.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Cinna, they say, 'gainst me is writing verses:<br>
He can't be said to write whom no one reads.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22writing%20verses%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Cinna is said to write verses against me. He doesn't write at all whose poems no man reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22verses%20against%20me%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He publishes lampoons on me, 'tis said;<br>
How can he publish who is never read?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/76/mode/2up?q=%22publishes+lampoons%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Cinna writes poems against me? He has no readers,<br>
so how can they say that he's a writer?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22cinna+writes%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna is reported to write verses against me. Nobody writes, whose poems nobody reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Cinna%20is%20reported%20to%20write%20verses%20against%20me.%20Nobody%20writes%2C%20whose%20poems%20nobody%20reads.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, a writer, attacks me with screeds.<br>
But he's not a writer whom nobody reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say Cinna writes little poems about me.<br>
He’s no writer, whose verse nobody reads.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=They%20say%C2%A0Cinna,verse%20nobody%20reads.">Kline</a> (2006), "A Silent Critic"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>His verse was meant to strike me low,<br>
But since <i>he</i> wrote it -- who will know?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22strike%20me%20low%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I hear Cinna has written some verses against me.<br>
A man is no writer<br>
if his poems have no reader.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20hear%20cinna%22">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, they say, writes verse attacking me.<br>
He doesn’t write, whose verses none will see.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR9#v=snippet&q=%22writes%20verse%20attacking%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say Cinna is writing epigrams and I'm his target. He's not "writing" if no one's reading him.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22writing%20epigrams%20and%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They say that Cinna slams<br>
<span class="tab">me in his epigrams.<br>
A poem no one has heard<br>
<span class="tab">has really not occurred.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=They%20say%20that,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna attacks me, calls me dirt?<br>
Let him. Who isn't read, can't hurt.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22cinna%20attacks%20me%22">O'Connell</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  33 (3.44) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[At your approach the neighbours flee, What is the cause that makes them flout you. And that wherever you may be A desert seems to spread about you? A tigress of her whelps bereft May fill the bravest heart with terror; Untouched the basking snake is left And handling scorpions is an error; But you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At your approach the neighbours flee,<br />
<span class="tab">What is the cause that makes them flout you.<br />
And that wherever you may be<br />
<span class="tab">A desert seems to spread about you?</p>
<p>A tigress of her whelps bereft<br />
<span class="tab">May fill the bravest heart with terror;<br />
Untouched the basking snake is left<br />
<span class="tab">And handling scorpions is an error;</p>
<p>But you provide a peril worse &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">Tis this, you overact the poet;<br />
When you persist in reading verse,<br />
<span class="tab">Could any patience undergo it?</p>
<p>For though I run or stand or sit<br />
<span class="tab">With verse my ears are still blockaded;<br />
Aye, at the baths I must submit,<br />
<span class="tab">My privy chambers are invaded,</p>
<p>You stop me on my way to dine,<br />
<span class="tab">Then wearied by your droning numbers<br />
My seat at table I resign —<br />
<span class="tab">I fall asleep — you break my slumbers.</p>
<p>Observe the evil that you do.<br />
<span class="tab">Though good, men hold you as pernicious ;<br />
And thus an upright bore like you<br />
<span class="tab">Makes even virtue look suspicious.</p>
<p><em>[Occurrit tibi nemo quod libenter,<br />
Quod, quacumque venis, fuga est et ingens<br />
Circa te, Ligurine, solitudo,<br />
Quid sit, scire cupis? Nimis poeta es.<br />
Hoc valde vitium periculosum est.<br />
Non tigris catulis citata raptis,<br />
Non dipsas medio perusta sole,<br />
Nec sic scorpios inprobus timetur.<br />
Nam tantos, rogo, quis ferat labores?<br />
Et stanti legis et legis sedenti,<br />
Currenti legis et legis cacanti.<br />
In thermas fugio: sonas ad aurem.<br />
Piscinam peto: non licet natare.<br />
Ad cenam propero: tenes euntem.<br />
Ad cenam venio: fugas sedentem.<br />
Lassus dormio: suscitas iacentem.<br />
Vis, quantum facias mali, videre?<br />
Vir iustus, probus, innocens timeris.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  33 (3.44) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/86/mode/2up?q=ligurinus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Ligurinus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.44">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>


<blockquote>That none would meet thee willingly,<br>
<span class="tab">But where so ere thou com'st, all fly<br>
O Ligurinus, wouldst thou know it?<br>
<span class="tab">The cause is th' art too much a Poet.<br>
That fault is wondrous dangerous.<br>
<span class="tab">No Tiger robb'd of whelpes by us<br>
So much is fear'd, no Scorpion,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor Dipsas basking in the Sun.<br>
For who can ere endure such paine?<br>
<span class="tab">Standing thou read'st, sitting againe;<br>
Running, and at the privy too.<br>
<span class="tab">To th' bath I goe; there readest thou.<br>
I goe to swimme; thy Booke delayes me.<br>
<span class="tab">I goe to supper; thence it stayes me.<br>
When I am set, thy reading makes me<br>
<span class="tab">To rise; and when I sleepe, it wakes me.<br>
Behold, what hurt thou dost. None can<br>
<span class="tab">Brooke thee a just, good, harmelesse man. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.73?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You come: away flies every mother's son:<br>
<span class="tab">On Bagshot Heath you can't be more alone.<br>
If you ask, why? -- You are bewitch'd with rhime:<br>
<span class="tab">And this, believe me, is a dangerous crime.<br>
Robb'd of her whelps a tigress thus we shun;<br>
<span class="tab">Or viper basking in the noon-day sun:<br>
Not more the dreadful scorpion's sting we fear,<br>
<span class="tab">Than this incessant lugging by the ear.<br>
Standing or sitting, you repeat your lays:<br>
<span class="tab">On my close-stool I hear them; in my chaise:<br>
Your trumpet on the water strikes my ear.<br>
<span class="tab">I at Vaux-haull no other music hear.<br>
When dinner waits, you seise me by the button:<br>
<span class="tab">At table plac'd, you drive me from my mutton:<br>
From a sweet nap you rouse me by your song.<br>
<span class="tab">How much by this yourself and me you wrong!<br>
The man of worth the poet makes us fly;<br>
<span class="tab">And by your verse we lose your probity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20come%20away%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That happiness and thee can no man meet,<br>
<span class="tab">Where'er thou rom'st, that one and all retreat;<br>
That thee a solitude immense surrounds,<br>
<span class="tab">The why thy knowledge and thy wit confounds.<br>
The why is this: thou art a very poet.<br>
<span class="tab">The fault is not, to be one; but to show it.<br>
Not so, of whelps bereft a tigress dire;<br>
<span class="tab">Not so, a sunburnt serpent in her ire;<br>
Us not the balefull scorpion so can scare:<br>
<span class="tab">What living man con constant murder bear?<br>
Standers thou readest down, and those that sit;<br>
<span class="tab">And him that runs, and him that works his wit.<br>
Flying into the bath, I waters limn:<br>
<span class="tab">Plunging into the pond, I may not swim.<br>
I haste to supper; thou detain'st in spite:<br>
<span class="tab">I lean at supper: thou enjoy'st my flight.<br>
When sleep would mercifully seal mine eyes,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou mercilessly bidd'st the slumb'rer rise.<br>
Would'st comprehend what words thou work'st of woe?<br>
<span class="tab">The cause and consequence one word shall show.<br>
A man for parts and probity rever'd,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou art by all, insted of worshipt, FEAR'D.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22that%20one%20and%20all%20retreat%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 25]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you wish to know the cause why no one willingly meets you? that wherever you come, Ligurinus! you put people to flight, and create a solitude around you? The cause is, that you are too much of a poet. This is a very perilous fault. A tiger exasperated by the capture of her whelps, a serpent scorched by the mid-day sun, a fierce scorpion are objects of less dread. For, I ask, who would willingly sustain the labours you are in the habit of imposing? You read your verses to the stander, you read them to the sitter, you read them to the runner, you read them to every one, whatever he is about. I fly to the warm baths, your voice sounds in my ear. I seek a cold bath, you interrupt my swimming. I hasten to supper, you detain me on the way; I have got to supper before you, you oblige me to change my seat. I am wearied with hearing you, and go to sleep, you rouse me as I recline on my couch. Do you desire to know the harm you do? Just, moral, innocent as you are known to be by all men, by all men you are feared.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/46/mode/2up?q=Ligurinus">Amos</a> (1858), "An Inopportune Reciter"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you wish to know the reason, Ligurinus, that no one willingly meets you; that, wherever you come, everybody takes flight, and a vast solitude is left around you? You are too much of a poet. This is an extremely dangerous fault. The tigress aroused by the loss of her whelps, the viper scorched by the midday sun, or the ruthless scorpion, are less objects of terror than you. For who, I ask, could undergo such calls upon his patience as you make? You read your verses to me, whether I am standing, or sitting, or running, or about private business. I fly to the hot baths, there you din my ears: I seek the cold bath, there I cannot swim for your noise: I hasten to dinner, you stop me on my way; I sit down to dinner, you drive me from my seat: wearied, I fall asleep, you rouse me from my couch. Do you wish to see how much evil you occasion? -- You, a man just, upright, and innocent, are an object of fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20wish%20to%20know%20the,innocent%2C%20are%20an%20object%20of%20fear.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why everybody shuns your sight,<br>
<span class="tab">And why, since all are put to flight,<br>
Wherever your approach is viewed,<br>
<span class="tab">The place is one vast solitude : --<br>
This, Ligurinus, would you know?<br>
<span class="tab">You're too poetical, I trow.<br>
'Tis dangerous having this repute.<br>
<span class="tab">Not savage tigress in pursuit<br>
Of them that stole her whelps away,<br>
<span class="tab">Not serpent, scorched by burning ray<br>
Of Libya's sun, not scorpion fell<br>
<span class="tab">Is deemed by all so terrible.<br>
For, prythee tell me, who could bear<br>
<span class="tab">The burdens you for folk prepare?<br>
Should I stand by, your rhymes you read;<br>
<span class="tab">Or if I sit, you still proceed.<br>
To the hot baths I fly for fear:<br>
<span class="tab">You din your verses in my ear.<br>
Chased thence, I seek the plunge-bath's brim:<br>
<span class="tab">But while you're ranting, who could swim?<br>
To dinner then I haste: alack!<br>
<span class="tab">Just as I start, you hold me back.<br>
The table reached, I fain would eat:<br>
<span class="tab">You scare me as I take my seat.<br>
Quite wearied out, to sleep I try:<br>
<span class="tab">You rouse me ere I down can lie.<br>
Shall I, my friend, make plain to you<br>
<span class="tab">What serious mischief 'tis you do?<br>
All fear you still, and fly you far,<br>
<span class="tab">Good, upright, blameless as you are.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/28/mode/2up?q=ligurinus">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The cause of the rout<br>
<span class="tab">When it's rumored you're out,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Since you wish, Ligurinus, to know it. <br>
Of your making bare space <br>
<span class="tab">Of a populous place<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Is just this -- you're too much of a poet.<br>
<br>
It 's a terrible thing. <br>
<span class="tab">This craving to sing:<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">No tiger that 's robbed of her youngling. <br>
No snake in the sun, <br>
<span class="tab">No irate scorpion<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Is so feared as your metrical bungling.<br>
<br>
Whether one's sitting down. <br>
<span class="tab">Or is walking down town.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Or is even engaged with his toilet,<br>
Or stretching a limb <br>
<span class="tab">In a run at the gym,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Up you come with an eclogue to spoil it.<br>
<br>
When I flee to the bath <br>
<span class="tab">You are fast on my path,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Bawling ballads that drive me phrenetic. <br>
I jump in the tank <br>
<span class="tab">And reflect if I sank<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">That drowning's at least anaesthetic.<br>
<br>
When I run out to meals <br>
<span class="tab">You recite at my heels,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">Read me epitaphs while I'm at table. <br>
I retire, wearied out.<br>
<span class="tab">And am waked by your shout<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">That I must hear your versified fable.<br>
<br>
Now a poet's worst rhymes <br>
<span class="tab">May be doubtful at times.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">But the best ones of yours are outrageous <br>
You see now, I trust,<br>
<span class="tab">Why, though honest and just.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">You are treated like something contagious.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=ligurinus">Nixon</a> (1911), "The Progress of Poesy"]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>That no man willingly meets you, that, wherever you arrive, there is flight and vast solitude around you, Ligurinus, do you want to know what is the matter? You are too much of a poet. This is a fault passing dangerous. No tigress roused by the robbery of her cubs, no viper scorched by tropic suns, nor deadly scorpion is so dreaded. For who, I ask you, would endure such trials? You read to me while I am standing, and read to me when I am sitting; while I am running you read to me, and read to me while I am using a jakes. I fly to the warm baths: you buzz in my ear; I make for the swimming bath: I am not allowed to swim; I haste to dinner: you detain me as I go; I reach the table: you rout me while I am eating. Wearied out, I sleep: you rouse me up as I lie. Do you want to appreciate the evil you cause? Though you are a man just, upright, and harmless, you are a terror.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20man%20willingly%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That no one, Ligurinus, likes to meet<br>
<span class="tab">Your visage, that there's panic in the street <br>
At your approach, the reason, would you know it? <br>
<span class="tab">Well, Ligurinus, you're too much a poet. <br>
A grievous fault, with perilous mischief fraught. <br>
<span class="tab">No tigress, for her captive brood distraught, <br>
Puff-adder sweltering in the noon-tide heat, <br>
<span class="tab">Or ruthless scorpion is so dread to meet. <br>
Who can endure it? Standing, in repose, <br>
<span class="tab">Your strain pursues me; while I bathe it flows. <br>
I seek the swimming-pool; no refuge there. <br>
<span class="tab">I haste to dinner; there's another scare. <br>
Weary I sleep; you wake me. What's your error? <br>
<span class="tab">Just, righteous, harmless, you're a holy terror. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=ligurinus">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 138]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>No one wants to meet you: When you arrive <br>
there’s a wild rush for the exits, <br>
<span class="tab">and a great vacuum develops around you. <br>
You want to know why?<br>
<span class="tab">It’s because you’re too much the poet.<br>
Your art poses a decidedly dangerous threat,<br>
it makes you more to be feared than a leaping tigress<br>
whose cubs have been taken from her;<br>
worse than midday heat that makes thirsty people frantic,<br>
<span class="tab">worse than the vengeful scorpion, are you to be feared.<br>
Who can stand up under the punishing work <br>
you heap on our shoulders? You read your stuff<br>
when I'm standing still, you read your stuff<br>
when I'm on the run, you read your stuff<br>
when I'm on the pot. I head for the baths<br>
where your voice bounces off the walls<br>
and dins in my ears. I try the swimming pool --<br>
but you won't let me swim. As I'm hurrying off<br>
to a dinner party, you detain me to listen,<br>
and when I get there, there you are too,<br>
pursuing me when I'm supine on the couch,<br>
tired, I like down to sleep, but you<br>
<span class="tab">have to wake me up to listen.<br>
Can't you bring yourself to see how much wrong <br>
you're doing me? Here you are, a fine honest fellow,<br>
an innocent bystander --<br>
<span class="tab">and we're all scared to death of you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22no+one+wants+to+meet%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why, you ask, whenever you show your face<br>
<span class="tab">Is there a public stampede, a vast unpopulated space?<br>
The answer -- you may as well know it --<br>
<span class="tab">Is that you overact the poet:<br>
A grave fault,<br>
<span class="tab">Ligurinus, and one which could easily earn you assault.<br>
The tigress robbed of her young,<br>
<span class="tab">The scorpion's tail, the heat-crazed puff-adder's tongue<br>
Are proverbial, but you're worse;<br>
<span class="tab">For who can endure ordeal by verse?<br>
You read to me when I'm standing and when I'm sitting,<br>
<span class="tab">When I'm running and when I'm shitting,<br>
If I head for the warm baths you make my ears buzz with your din,<br>
<span class="tab">If I want a cold dip you stop me from getting in,<br>
If I'm hurrying to dinner you detain me in the street,<br>
<span class="tab">If I reach the table you rout me out of my seat,<br>
<span class="tab">If I collapse, exhausted, into bed you drag me to my feet.<br>
Do you never pause<br>
<span class="tab">To consider the havoc you cause?<br>
You're a decent citizen, upright and pious,<br>
<span class="tab">But, by God, you terrify us!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/40/mode/2up?q=ligurinus">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you wish to know why it is, Ligurinus, that nobody is glad to meet you, that, wherever you go, there is flight and a vast solitude around you? You are too much of a poet. This is a very dangerous fualt. A tigress roused by the theft of her cubs is not feared os much, nor yet a viper burnt by the midday sun, nor yet a vicious scorpion. For I ask you, who would endure such trials? You read to me as I stand, you read to me as I sit, you read to me as I run, you read to me as I shit. I flee to the baths: you boom in my ear. I head for the pool: I'm not allowed to swim. I hurry to dinner: you stop me in my tracks. I arrive at dinner: you drive me away as I eat. Tired out, I take a nap: you rouse me as I like. Do you care to see how much damage you do? A just man, upright and innocent, you are feared.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wonder why no people pay you heed?<br>
<span class="tab">Well, I'll unveil the mystery -- you read.<br>
Incessantly, you foist on us your rhymes,<br>
<span class="tab">A legendary peril of our times.<br>
No mother tiger snarling near her cubs,<br>
<span class="tab">No snake attacking us despite our clubs,<br>
No scorpion paralyzingly come near,<br>
<span class="tab">Can deal us such humiliating fear<br>
As you, in undeterr'd reciting mode<br>
<span class="tab">Producing endless drivel by the load. <br>
I stop and you are dinning in my ear,<br>
<span class="tab">I run and hear you panting in the rear.<br>
you fill our homes with unremitting roar.<br>
<span class="tab">I even hear you through the outhouse door.<br>
A public nuisance at the public bathing,<br>
<span class="tab">For tow'ls you give us pages for our swathing.<br>
To dinner we go in, out comes your verse.<br>
<span class="tab">The same old tired nonsenses or worse.<br>
At street corners we timorously look<br>
<span class="tab">To seek if you are lurking in a nook,<br>
<span class="tab">Poised to bombard us with your lethal book.<br>
I go to bed and still I hear you drone.<br>
<span class="tab">Have you no soundproof hovel of your own?<br>
Some honesty you have, but far below it,<br>
<span class="tab">You are that deepest pestilence -- a poet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20wonder%20why%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wealthy friends, you&#8217;re quick to take offene. It&#8217;s not good manners, but it saves expense. [Irasci tantum felices nostis amici. Non belle facitis, sed iuvat hoc: facite.] The commentary by various authors indicates this is about wealthy patrons pretending to offense or other anger at their poorer clientele as an excuse for not being free [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wealthy friends, you&#8217;re quick to take offene.<br />
It&#8217;s not good manners, but it saves expense.</p>
<p><em>[Irasci tantum felices nostis amici.<br />
Non belle facitis, sed iuvat hoc: facite.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  37 (3.37) (AD 87-88) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22wealthy%20friends%22&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The commentary by various authors indicates this is about wealthy patrons pretending to offense or other anger at their poorer clientele as an excuse for not being free with gifts. Closely parallel to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/53639/">12.13</a>.<br><br> 

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.37">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Rich friends 'gainst poor to anger still are prone: <br>
It is not well, but profitably done.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.23?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629); also as <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=Rich%20friends%20%27gainst%20poor%20to%20anger%20still%20are%20prone%3A%C2%A0%0AIt%20is%20not%20well%2C%20but%20profitably%20done.">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My rich friends, you know nothing save how to put yourselves into a passion. It is not a nice thing for you to do, but it suits your purpose. Do it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=My%20rich%20friends%2C%20you%20know%20nothing%20save%20how%20to%20put%20yourselves%20into%20a%20passion.%20It%20is%20not%20a%20nice%20thing%20for%20you%20to%20do%2C%20but%20it%20suits%20your%20purpose.%20Do%20it.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To be angry is all you know, you rich friends.<br>
You do not act prettily, but it pays to do this.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20rich%20friends%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich friends, 'tis your fashion to get in a passion<br>
<span class="tab">With humble dependents, or feign it.<br>
Though not very nice, 'tis a saving device,<br>
<span class="tab">Economy bids you retain it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22a+mean+trick%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "A Mean Trick"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You well-off people are well versed only<br>
in cursing out your inferiors:<br>
Un For Giving bitching is quite enriching.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/134/mode/2up?q=%22well+versed%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You weIl-off friends only know how to take umbrage. It's not a pretty way to behave, but it suits your book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20weIl%2Doff%20friends%20only%20know%20how%20to%20take%20umbrage.%20It%27s%20not%20a%20pretty%20way%20to%20behave%2C%20but%20it%20suits%20yourbook.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not easy, having money, blood so blue,<br>
Lotta gifts expected for all your crew.<br>
Kinda tacky to get angry and just tell 'em all go screw.<br>
But the rich gotta do <br>
What the rich gotta do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The rich feign wrath – a profitable plan;<br>
’Tis cheaper far to hate than help a man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=The%20rich%20feign,J.%20A.%20Pott">Pott</a>]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>How explain why the conspicuously rich<br>
are so easy to offend? Ask their accountant.<br>
He probably won’t tell you but he’ll know.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=%E2%80%98How%20explain%20why,Alan%20Halsey">Halsey</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  42 (3.42) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You daub your face and think I shall not see Your wrinkles. You deceive yourself, not me. A small defect is nothing when revealed; But greater seems the blemish ill concealed. [Lomento rugas uteri quod condere temptas, Polla, tibi ventrem, non mihi labra linis. Simpliciter pateat vitium fortasse pusillum: Quod tegitur, magnum creditur esse malum.] [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You daub your face and think I shall not see<br />
<span class="tab">Your wrinkles. You deceive yourself, not me.<br />
A small defect is nothing when revealed;<br />
<span class="tab">But greater seems the blemish ill concealed.</p>
<p><em>[Lomento rugas uteri quod condere temptas,<br />
Polla, tibi ventrem, non mihi labra linis.<br />
Simpliciter pateat vitium fortasse pusillum:<br />
Quod tegitur, magnum creditur esse malum.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  42 (3.42) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22You+daub%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Polla." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.42">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou seek'st with lard to smooth thy wrinkled skin,<br>
<span class="tab">Bedaub'st thyself, and dost no lover win.<br>
Simple decays men easily pass by,<br>
<span class="tab">But, hid, suspect some great deformity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20polla%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Leave off thy Paint, Perfumes, and youthful Dress,<br>
<span class="tab">And Nature's failing honesty confess;<br>
Double we see those Faults which Art wou'd mend, <br>
<span class="tab">Plain downright Ugliness would less offend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20polla%22">Sedley</a> (1702), "To Cloe"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With lotion some wrinkles you labor to hide.<br>
<span class="tab">No policy, Polla, you show; but some pride.<br>
A small fault perhaps might more safely appear:<br>
<span class="tab">Whatever is hid, draws construction severe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22fault%20perhaps%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 20]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When you try to conceal your wrinkles, Polla, with paste made from beans, you deceive yourself, not me. Let a defect, which is possibly but small, appear undisguised. A fault concealed is presumed to be great.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=When%20you%20try%20to%20conceal%20your%20wrinkles%2C%20Polla%2C%20with%20paste%20made%20from%20beans%2C%20you%20deceive%20yourself%20not%20me.%20Let%20a%20defect%2C%20which%20is%20possibly%20but%20small%2C%20appear%20undisguised.%20A%20fault%20concealed%20is%20presumed%20to%20be%20great.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Seek not to hide a blemish that's but small.<br>
The fault that's hidden ofttimes greater seems.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hide%20a%20blemish%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You try to conceal your wrinkles by the use of bean-meal, but you plaster your skin, Polla, not my lips. Let a blemish, which perhaps is small, simply show. The flaw which is hidden is deemed greater than it is.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22conceal%20your%20wrinkles%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Applying paste to smooth out the folds in your fat belly only means you are rouging your belly for yourself instead of your lips for me. It wouild be more natural to let that minor flaw stand. The hidden evil is considered worse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22applying+paste%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You try to hide your belly's wrinkles with bean meal, Polla, but you smear your stomach, not my lips. Better that the blemish, perhaps a trifling one, be frankly shown. Trouble concealed is believed to be greater than it is.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20try%20to%20hide%20your%20belIy%27s%20wrinkles%20with%20beanmeal%2C%20POlIa%2C%20but%20you%20smear%20your%20stomach%2C%20not%20my%20lips.b%20Better%20that%20the%20blemish%2C%20perhaps%20a%20trifling%20one%2C%20be%20frankly%20shown.%20Trouble%20concealed%20is%20believed%20to%20be%20greater%20than%20it%20iso">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You use a cream your wrinkles to disguise,<br>
<span class="tab">But you're just pulling wool over our eyes.<br>
The wrinkles, left alone, would draw no mention,<br>
<span class="tab">But, covered up, they draw closest attention.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=3.42">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Conceal a flaw, and the world will imagine the worst.<br>
[<a href="https://archive.org/details/familiarquotatio0000bart/page/134/mode/2up?q=%22flaw%2C+and+the+world%22">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  43 (3.43) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem a youth to look upon. You dyed your hair &#8212; and lo, The locks once whiter than a swan Are blacker than a crow. Not everyone can you deceive And, though you hide the grey, Yet Proserpine will not believe But snatch the mask away. [Mentiris iuvenem tinctis, Laetine, capillis, Tam subito corvus, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem a youth to look upon.<br />
<span class="tab">You dyed your hair &#8212; and lo,<br />
The locks once whiter than a swan<br />
<span class="tab">Are blacker than a crow.<br />
Not everyone can you deceive<br />
<span class="tab">And, though you hide the grey,<br />
Yet Proserpine will not believe<br />
<span class="tab">But snatch the mask away.</p>
<p><em>[Mentiris iuvenem tinctis, Laetine, capillis,<br />
Tam subito corvus, qui modo sygnus eras.<br />
Non omnes fallis; scit te Proserpina canum<br />
Personam capiti detrahet illa tuo.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  43 (3.43) (AD 87-88) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22whiter+than+a+swan%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Proserpina (the Roman version of Persephone) was the goddess / Queen of the Underworld. <br><br>

(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22Mentiris+iuvenem%22">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Thou dy'st thy haire to seeme a younger man,<br>
And turn'st a Crow, that lately wert a Swan.<br>
All are not cousen'd; hels queene knows thee grey.<br>
She'll take the vizor from thy head away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.72?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lentinus counterfeits his youth<br>
With periwigs, I trow,<br>
But art thou changed so soon, in truth,<br>
<span class="tab">From a swan to a crow?<br>
Though canst not all the world deceive:<br>
Proserpine knows thee gray;<br>
And she'll make bold, without your leave,<br>
<span class="tab">To take your cap away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Lentinus%20counterfeits%22&pg=PA149&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou that not many months ago <br>
Wast white as Swan, or driven Snow, <br>
Now blacker far than <i>Aesop's</i> Crow, <br>
Thanks to thy Wig, set’st up for Beau.<br>
<span class="tab">Faith <i>Harry,</i> thou'rt i'the wrong box,<br>
Old Age these vain endeavours mocks<br>
And time that knows thou'st hoary locks,<br>
Will pluck thy Mask off with a pox.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22thou+that+not+many%22">Brown</a> (1699)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Why should’st thou try to hide thy self in youth? <br>
<span class="tab">Impartial <i>Proserpine</i> beholds the truth,<br>
And laughing at so find and vain a task,<br>
<span class="tab">Will strip thy hoary noddle of its mask.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22why+should%27st+thou+try%22">Addison</a> (fl. early 18th C)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>With tinctur'd locks the dotard youth puts on:<br>
<span class="tab">Behold a raven, from but now a swan!<br>
Though cheat'st not all; not her, who rules the dead:<br>
<span class="tab">She soon shall pull the mask from off thy head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA275&printsec=frontcover&bsq=behold%20a%20raven">Elphinston</a> (1782), Part 2, ep. 21]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Before a swan, behind a crow,<br>
<span class="tab">Such self-deceit ne'er did I know.<br>
Ah! cease your arts-- death knows you're grey, <br>
<span class="tab">And spite of all will keep his day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C) §240]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You simulate youth, Lentinus, with your dyed hairs; so suddenly a crow, who were so lately a swan. You do not deceive everyone: Proserpina knows you for a greybeard, she will tear off the masque from your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22so+lately+a+swan%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 4, ep. 140]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Letinus, fain to cheat men's eyes,<br>
<span class="tab">You smear your head with umber dyes;<br>
And, late a swan as white as snow,<br>
<span class="tab">You've suddenly become a crow.<br>
Is everyone deceived by you?<br>
<span class="tab">No, one can tell the genuine hue.<br>
Proserpine knows your hair is grey,<br>
<span class="tab">And she will tear that mask away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/26/mode/2up?q=laetinus">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ape youth, Laetinus, with your dyed hair; and you, who were but now a swan, are suddenly become a crow! You will not deceive everyone: Proserpine knows that you are hoary, and will snatch the mask from your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=You%20ape%20youth%2C%20Laetinus%2C%20with%20your%20dyed%20hair%3B%20and%20you%2C%20who%20were%20but%20now%20a%20swan%2C%20are%20suddenly%20become%20a%20crow!%20You%20will%20not%20deceive%20every%20one%3A%20Proserpine%20knows%20that%20you%20are%20hoary%2C%20and%20will%20snatch%20the%20mask%20from%20your%20head.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pretend you're still youthful by dyeing your hair --<br>
Now a crow, though a swan just of late --<br>
But you don't fool us all, for Proserpina knows,<br>
She'll show up the sham of your pate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22swan+just+of+late%22">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You falsely ape youth, Laetinus, with dyed hair, so suddenly a raven who were but now a swan. You don't deceive all; Proserpine knows you are hoary: she shall pluck the mask from off your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=laetinus&pg=PA189&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You play the youth with raven hue assumed<br>
<span class="tab">But yesterday like swan of Leda plumed.<br>
Not all you cheat; Proserpine knows you grey.<br>
<span class="tab">Some day she'll pluck your silly mask away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22raven%20hue%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wish, Lætinus, to be thought a youth,<br>
And so you dye your hair.<br>
You're suddenly a crow, forsooth:<br>
<span class="tab">Of late a swan you were!<br>
You can't cheat all: there is a Lady dread<br>
Who knows your hair is grey:<br>
Proserpina will pounce upon your head,<br>
<span class="tab">And tear the mask away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=You%20wish%2C%20L%C3%A6tinus,the%20mask%20away.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>It's artificial for you to look like a young man<br>
with your dyed hair, suddenly turning into a crow<br>
when just a while ago you were a swan. You won't fool<br>
everyone: Proserpina knows you are white-haired<br>
and she will make you take your mask off.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22artificial+for+you%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You've dyed your hair to mimic youth,<br>
Laetinus. Not so long ago<br>
<span class="tab">You were a swan; now you're a crow.<br>
You can't fool everyone. One day<br>
Proserpina, who knows the truth,<br>
<span class="tab">Will rip that actor's wig away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/40/mode/2up?q=laetinus">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You were a swan, you’re now a crow. <br>
Laetinus, why deceive us so,<br>
<span class="tab">With borrowed plumage trying?<br>
The Queen of Shades will surely know<br>
When she slips off your mask below,<br>
<span class="tab">In Death there's no more dyeing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Death%20there's%20no%22">Pitt-Kethley</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You simulate youth, Laetinus, by dying your hair; so suddenly a raven, who were but now a swan. You don't fool everybody. Proserpina knows your hair is white. She will drag the mask from your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20simulate%20youth%2C%20Laetinus%2C%20by%20dying%20your%20hair%3B%20so%20suddenly%20a%20raven%2C%20who%20were%20but%20now%20a%20swan.%20You%20don%27t%20fool%20everybody.%20Proserpina%20knows%20your%20hair%20is%20white.%20She%20will%20drag%20the%20mask%20from%20your%20head.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You dye your hair, Laetinus, to feign youth --<br>
<span class="tab">a swan before, a raven now instead.<br>
You don't fool all. Proserpina can tell<br>
<span class="tab">you're gray. She'll pull that mask right off your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22dye+your+hair%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You counterfeit youth with hair-dye, Laetinus: all of a sudden you're a raven, when just now you were a swan. You don't fool everyone: Proserpina knows you are grey; she will drag the mask from your head.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=proserpina%20knows">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou, that not a month ago<br>
Wast white as swan or driven snow,<br>
Now blacker far than Aesop's crow,<br>
<span class="tab">Thanks to thy wig, sett'st up for beau:<br>
Faith, Harry, thou'rt i' the wrong box;<br>
Old age these vain endeavours mocks,<br>
And time, that knows thou 'st hoary locks,<br>
<span class="tab">Will pluck thy mask off with a pox.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20a%20month%20ago%22&pg=PA149&printsec=frontcover">Browne</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Before a swan, behind a crow,<br>
<span class="tab">Such self-deceit I ne'er did know.<br>
Ah, cease your arts! Death knows you're grey,<br>
<span class="tab">And, spite of all, will have his way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Before%20a%20swan%22&pg=PA149&printsec=frontcover">Hoadley</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  49 (3.49) (AD 87-88) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;Let the Cup Pass&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me you mix Veientian, While you take Massic wine: I&#8217;d rather smell your goblet Than to take a drink from mine. [Veientana mihi misces, ubi Massica potas: Olfacere haec malo pocula, quam bibere.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: You Massick drink, Veientan give to me. I need not taste; the smell doth satisfie. [tr. Wright [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me you mix Veientian,<br />
<span class="tab">While you take Massic wine:<br />
I&#8217;d rather smell your goblet<br />
<span class="tab">Than to take a drink from mine.</p>
<p><em>[Veientana mihi misces, ubi Massica potas:<br />
Olfacere haec malo pocula, quam bibere.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  49 (3.49) (AD 87-88) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;Let the Cup Pass&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/28/mode/2up?q=massic" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.49">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You Massick drink, Veientan give to me.<br>
I need not taste; the smell doth satisfie.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22massick%20drink%22">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You mix Veientan wine for me, while you yourself drink Massic. I would rather smell the cups which you present me, than drink of them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=You%20mix%20Veientan%20wine%20for%20me%2C%20while%20you%20yourself%20drink%20Massic.%20I%20would%20rather%20smell%20the%20cups%20which%20you%20present%20me%2C%20than%20drink%20of%20them.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You mix Veientan wine for me, whereas you drink Massic. I would rather smell these cups of mine than drink them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22mix%20Veientan%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yourself you drink a vintage rare<br>
<span class="tab">While giving me <i>vin ordinaire</i>.<br>
To smell the heel-taps of your wine<br>
<span class="tab">Is better far than drinking mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/88/mode/2up?q=%22the+mean+host%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Mean Host"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pour me cheap red wine while you drink Massic.<br>
I'd rather sniff this cup than drink from it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22you+drink+massic%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You drink the best, yet serve us third-rate wine.<br>
I'd rather sniff your cup than swill from mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=%22third-rate+wine%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You serve me plonk, and you drink <i>reservé.</i><br>
My taste-buds back away from mine’s bouquet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Collected_Poems/io3_CgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22serve%20me%20plonk%22">Harrison</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You mix Veientan for me and serve Massic for yourself. I had rather smell these cups than drink.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20mix%20Veientan%20for%20me%20and%20serve%20Massic%20for%20yourseIfe%20I%20had%20rather%20smell%20these%20cups%20than%20drink.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your cup breathes odors fine<br>
<span class="tab">That never came from mine.<br>
Better is what you waft<br>
<span class="tab">Than what I'm forced to quaff.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cup%20breathes%20odors%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You mix Veientan for me, while <i>you</i> drink Massic wine.<br>
I'd rather smell your cups than drink from mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22mix+Veientan%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pour me Blue Nun, while you drink Brunello wine.<br>
I’d rather smell your glass, than take a sip from mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.druidic.org/poetry.htm#:~:text=You%20pour%20me%20Blue%20Nun%2C%20while%20you%20drink%20Brunello%20wine.%0AI%E2%80%99d%20rather%20smell%20your%20glass%2C%20than%20take%20a%20sip%20from%20mine.">Ynys-Mon</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  51 (3.51) (AD 87-88) [tr. Barger]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I praise your body&#8217;s beauty. &#8220;Quite enough,&#8221; Galla, you say, &#8220;it&#8217;s better in the buff.&#8221; Let&#8217;s go a-bathing then, but you decline. Galla, are you afraid you won&#8217;t like mine? [Cum faciem laudo, cum miror crura manusque, Dicere, Galla, soles &#8216;Nuda placebo magis,&#8217; Et semper vitas communia balnea nobis. Numquid, Galla, times, ne tibi non [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I praise your body&#8217;s beauty. &#8220;Quite enough,&#8221;<br />
<span class="tab">Galla, you say, &#8220;it&#8217;s better in the buff.&#8221;<br />
Let&#8217;s go a-bathing then, but you decline.<br />
<span class="tab">Galla, are you afraid you won&#8217;t like mine?</p>
<p><em>[Cum faciem laudo, cum miror crura manusque,<br />
Dicere, Galla, soles &#8216;Nuda placebo magis,&#8217;<br />
Et semper vitas communia balnea nobis.<br />
Numquid, Galla, times, ne tibi non placeam?]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  51 (3.51) (AD 87-88) [tr. Barger] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA141&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22praise%20your%20body's%20beauty%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.51">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>




<blockquote>When ore I praise thy face, hand, leg; far more<br>
(Thou sayst) I'd like thee, if all naked ore;<br>
Yet still thou shun'st the common Baths with me;<br>
Fear'st thou that I should not be lik'd by thee?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.50?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 3.50]</a></blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When, Galla, thy face, hands, and legs I admire,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou say'st, I, when naked more pleasing shall be.<br>
Yet, one common bath, I full vainly require:<br>
<span class="tab">Dost fear that I shall not be pleasing to thee?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 4, Part 3 ep. 38]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I praise your face, when I admire your limbs and hands, <br>
<span class="tab">You tell me, Galla, "In nature's garments I shall please you still better." <br>
Yet you always avoid the same baths with myself! <br>
<span class="tab">Do you fear, Galla, that I shall not please you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=When%20I%20praise%20your%20face%2C%20when%20I%20admire%20your%20limbs%20and%20hands%2C%20you%20tell%20me%2C%20Galla%2C%20%22In%20nature%27s%20garments%20I%20shall%20please%20you%20still%20better.%22%20Yet%20you%20always%20avoid%20the%20same%20baths%20with%20myself!%20Do%20you%20fear%2C%20Galla%2C%20that%20I%20shall%20not%20please%20you%3F">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I compliment your face, when I admire your legs and hands, <br>
You are accustomed to say, Galla: "Naked I shall please you more,"<br> 
And yet you continually avoid taking a bath with me. <br>
Surely you are not afraid, Galla, that I shall not please you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22compliment%20your%20face%22&pg=PA195&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whene'er I praise your legs and arms,<br>
Your eyes and rosy cheeks admire,<br>
You whisper low -- "My hidden charms<br>
<span class="tab">A deeper wonder will inspire."<br>
And yet whenever I suggest<br>
A bath together, you say no,<br>
Perhaps you fear that when undressed<br>
<span class="tab">Without my clothes <i>I</i> shall not do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/88/mode/2up?q=galla">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I praise your face and lovely hands<br>
<span class="tab">Or to your legs allude,<br>
This is what you always say:<br>
<span class="tab">"I'm nicer in the nude."<br>
And yet you constantly decline<br>
<span class="tab">To go to the Baths with me.<br>
Are you afraid you'll be displeased<br>
<span class="tab">With my own nudity?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/32/mode/2up?q=%22to+galla%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I say how I like your face, Galla,<br>
and admire your hands and your legs<br>
you observe "I'm even nicer in the nude."<br>
But you don't go to the baths when I do.<br>
Are you afraid to look at me?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22face%2C+galla%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When I praise your face and admire your legs and hands, Galla, you are apt to say: "You'll like me better naked." And yet you always avoid taking a bath with me. Can it be, Galla, that you are afraid you may not like <em>me?</em><br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=When%20I%20praise%20your%20face%20and%20admire%20your%20Iegs%20and%20hands%2C%20Galla%2C%20you%20are%20apt%20to%20say%3A%20%22YoU%27ll%20like%20me%20better%20naked.%22%20And%20yet%20you%20always%20avoid%20taking%20a%20bath%20with%20me.%20Can%20it%20be%2C%20Galla%2C%20that%20you%20are%20afraid%20you%20may%20not%20like%20me%3F">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I praise your face and figure as divine<br>
<span class="tab">"But if you saw me nude -- I really shine"<br>
Yet rather than shed clothes you seek distraction<br>
<span class="tab">Because a letdown will be my reaction?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=3.51">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When I admire your face and legs and hands,<br>
<span class="tab">"You'll like me better nude," you always tease.<br>
Yet, Galla, you won't bathe with me in public.<br>
<span class="tab">Am <i>I</i> the one you fear will fail to please?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/26/mode/2up?q=%22admire+your+face%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  61 (3.61) (AD 87-88) [tr. Hay (1755)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Tis a mere nothing that you ask, you cry: If you ask nothing, nothing I deny. [Esse nihil dicis quidquid petis, inprobe Cinna: Si nil, Cinna, petis, nil tibi, Cinna, nego.] &#8220;To Cinna.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: What so&#8217;ere you coggingly require, &#8216;Tis nothing (Cinna) still you cry: Then Cinna you have your desire, If [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis a mere nothing that you ask, you cry:<br />
If you ask nothing, nothing I deny.</p>
<p><em>[Esse nihil dicis quidquid petis, inprobe Cinna:<br />
Si nil, Cinna, petis, nil tibi, Cinna, nego.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  61 (3.61) (AD 87-88) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22meer%20nothing%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Cinna." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.61">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>What so'ere you coggingly require,<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis nothing (Cinna) still you cry:<br>
Then Cinna you have your desire,<br>
<span class="tab">If you aske nought, nought I deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=coggingly">Davison</a> (1602)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whate'er you ask, 'tis nothing, still you cry:<br>
If nothing, Cinna, nothing I'll deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22nothing%20still%22">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis a mere nothing, Cinna, still you cry.<br>
If nothing you demand, I nought deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22mere%20nothing%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 76]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whatever favour you ask, presuming Cinna, you call it nothing: if you ask for nothing, Cinna, I refuse you nothing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=Whatever%20favour%20you%20ask%2C%20presuming%20Cinna%2C%20you%20call%20it%20nothing%3A%20if%20you%20ask%20for%20nothing%2C%20Cinna%2C%20I%20refuse%20you%20nothing.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your importunity to mask,<br>
<span class="tab">"'Tis a mere nothing," still you cry.<br>
Since nothing, Cinna, 'tis you ask,<br>
<span class="tab">Then nothing, Cinna, I deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22mere+nothing%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"It's nothing," is a phrase that you<br>
<span class="tab">To favors oft apply.<br>
You're sure it's nothing that you want?<br>
<span class="tab">Then nothing I'll deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=cinna">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote> <br>

<blockquote>"'Tis nothing," you say, whatever you ask, importunate Cinna. If you ask "nothing," Cinna, nothing I deny you, Cinna.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22nothing%20i%20deny%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your impudent demands to mask,<br>
<span class="tab">You always say that what you ask<br>
Is -- nothing -- but, if that be true,<br>
<span class="tab">What I refuse is nothing too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/92/mode/2up?q=%22impudent+demands%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of your importunate request you cry<br>
"'Tis nothing!" Nothing, Cinna, I deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22importunate%20requesrt%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #150]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, Cinna, you cynic, you say<br>
it's nothing to ask, nothing at all.<br>
So I suppose I'm not refusing anything, either.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22it%27s+nothing%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Unconscionable Cinna, whatever you ask for, you say it's nothing. Cinna, if you ask for nothing, nothing, Cinna, do I refuse you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Unconscionable%20Cinna%2C%20whatever%20you%20ask%20for%2C%20you%20say%20it%27s%20nothing.%20Cinna%2C%20ifyou%20ask%20for%20nothing%2C%20nothing%2C%20Cinna%2C%20do%20I%20refuse%20you.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>"It's nothing," whatever <br>
<span class="tab">you beg for. If that's true, <br>
it must be the very <br>
<span class="tab">nothing I'd deny you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22it%27s+nothing+whatever%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Since "only a mere nothing" you request,<br>
You'll get it -- for that nothing, be my guest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=3.61">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whatever you ask for, Cinna, you say<br>
<span class="tab">"Oh, it's nothing!"<br>
Well, if it's nothing you ask for, Cinna,<br>
<span class="tab">it's nothing I refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/34/mode/2up?q=cinna">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Nothing"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vile Cinna, you ask for "nothing" -- so say you.<br>
If that's true, I deny you nothing, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/28/mode/2up?q=%22ask+for+nothing%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aufidia&#8217;s spouse before, you&#8217;re now her lover; your former rival is the one she wed. Why want her not as your wife, but another&#8217;s? Does it take fear to make you rise in bed? [Moechus es Aufidiae, qui vir, Scaevine, fuisti; Rivalis fuerat qui tuus, ille vir est. Cur aliena placet tibi, quae tua non [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aufidia&#8217;s spouse before, you&#8217;re now her lover;<br />
<span class="tab">your former rival is the one she wed.<br />
Why want her not as <i>your</i> wife, but another&#8217;s?<br />
<span class="tab">Does it take fear to make you rise in bed?</p>
<p><em>[Moechus es Aufidiae, qui vir, Scaevine, fuisti;<br />
Rivalis fuerat qui tuus, ille vir est.<br />
Cur aliena placet tibi, quae tua non placet, uxor?<br />
Numquid securus non potes arrigere?]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  70 (3.70) (AD 87-88) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22aufidia%27s+spouse%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Scaevinus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.70">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Aufidia's now gallant, who was her lord!<br>
<span class="tab">Her lord thy rival, once again abhorr'd!<br>
Why like another's, nor thine own endure?<br>
<span class="tab">Canst feel no fervour, where thou are secure?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=aufidia">Elphinston</a> (1782); Book 6, part 2, ep. 44]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For years neglected and turn'd off at last,<br>
<span class="tab">Dodwell's fair wife upon the town was cast. --<br>
Now Dodwell's coach is ever at her door:<br>
<span class="tab">He likes the danger of a common whore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/212/mode/2up?q=%22years+neglected%22">Halhead</a> (1793)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You, Scaevinus, who were recently the husband of Aufidia, are now her gallant; while he who was your rival is now her husband. Why should you take pleasure in her, as the wife of your neighbour, who, as your own wife, gave you no pleasure? Is it that obstacles alone inspire you with ardour?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=You%2C%20Scaevinus%2C%20who%20were%20recently%20the%20husband%20of%20Aufidia%2C%20are%20now%20her%20gallant%3B%20while%20he%20who%20was%20your%20rival%20is%20now%20her%20husband.%20Why%20should%20you%20take%20pleasure%20in%20her%2C%20as%20the%20wife%20of%20your%20neighbour%2C%20who%2C%20as%20your%20own%20wife%2C%20gave%20you%20no%20pleasure%3F%20Is%20it%20that%20obstacles%20alone%20inspire%20you%20with%20ardour%3F%C2%A0">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are the paramour of Aufidia, and you were, Scaevinus, her husband; he who was your rival is her husband. Why does another man’s wife please you when she as your own does not please you? Is it that when secure you can’t get an erection?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.149713/page/n229/mode/2up?q=scaevinus">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The wife you divorced, who has married her love,<br>
You're trying again on the sly to recover.<br>
From the fact she's another's fresh charm she derives,<br>
And the danger a zest to adultery gives.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/94/mode/2up?q=scaevinus">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>First you were the husband<br>
then you became the adulterous seducer<br>
of your former wife Aufidia. And the man<br>
who used to be her seducer is now her husband.<br>
If another man's wife<br>
arouses you<br>
though you cannot respond to your own<br>
can it be the security that keeps you down?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/146/mode/2up?q=%22first+you+were%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're fucking Aufidia, your ex <br>
<span class="tab">who's married to the guy who gave <i>you</i> grounds.<br>
Adultery's the one way you get sex.<br>
<span class="tab">you only get a hard-on out of bounds.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Collected_Poems/io3_CgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fucking%20aufidia%22">Harrison</a> (1981)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are Aufidia's lover, Scaevinus, who used to be her husband. Your rival that was, he is her husband now. Why does a woman attract you as somebody else's wife who doesn't attract you as your own? Can't you rise if there's nothing to be afraid of?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20are%20Aufidia%27s%20lover%2C%20Scaevinus%2C%20who%20used%20to%20be%20her%20husband.%20Your%20riyal%20that%20was%2C%20he%20is%20her%20hushand%20now.%20Why%20does%20a%20woman%20attract%20you%20as%20somebody%20else%27s%20wife%20w.ho%20doesn%27t%20attract%20you%20as%20your%20own%3F%20Can%27t%20you%20rise%20if%20there%27s%20nothing%20to%20be%20afraid%20of%3F">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your present mistress once you held as wife,<br>
<span class="tab">With whom you could not live a wedded life.<br>
Unless provoked by sexual transgression,<br>
<span class="tab">You obviously can't achieve erection.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=3.70">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  3, epigram  85 (3.85) (AD 87-88) [tr. Ericsson (2005)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who talked you into cutting off the guy&#8217;s nose, When some other part clearly curls your wife&#8217;s toes? You dolt, she&#8217;s not lost what makes Deiphobus dear: It&#8217;s his dick that made your wife holler and cheer. [Quis tibi persuasit naris abscidere moecho? Non hac peccatum est parte, marite, tibi. Stulte, quid egisti? nihil hic [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who talked you into cutting off the guy&#8217;s nose,<br />
<span class="tab">When some other part clearly curls your wife&#8217;s toes?<br />
You dolt, she&#8217;s not lost what makes Deiphobus dear:<br />
<span class="tab">It&#8217;s his dick that made your wife holler and cheer. </p>
<p><em>[Quis tibi persuasit naris abscidere moecho?<br />
Non hac peccatum est parte, marite, tibi.<br />
Stulte, quid egisti? nihil hic tibi perdidit uxor,<br />
Cum sit salva tui mentula Deiphobi.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  3, epigram  85 (3.85) (AD 87-88) [tr. Ericsson (2005)] 
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The name Deiphobus is used here metaphorically.  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deiphobus">In myth</a> he was son of Priam, and wed Helen after Paris. Menelaus, Helen's first husband, mutilated him. He is referenced in accounts of the Trojan Wars, as well as the <i>Aenead.</i><br><br>

Compare to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/57625/">3.85</a>. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:3.85">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Offended lord, what could thee discompose,<br>
<span class="tab">So cruelly to lop th' offender's nose?<br>
That suff'ring limb, as thine, was innocent:<br>
<span class="tab">Nor feels the paramour the punishment.<br>
Ne'er canst thou hope t' extingish either fire,<br>
<span class="tab">While the incendiary remains entire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22offended%20lord%20what%20could%20thee%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 2, ep. 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who persuaded you to cut off the nose of your wife's gallant? Wretched husband, that was not the part which outraged you. Fool, what have you done? Your wife has lost nothing by the operation, since that which pleased her in your friend Deiphobus is still safe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book03.htm#:~:text=Who%20persuaded%20you%20to%20cut%20off%20the%20nose%20of%20your%20wife%27s%20gallant%3F%20Wretched%20husband%2C%20that%20was%20not%20the%20part%20which%20outraged%20you.%20Fool%2C%20what%20have%20you%20done%3F%20Your%20wife%20has%20lost%20nothing%20by%20the%20operation%2C%20since%20that%20which%20pleased%20her%20in%20your%20friend%20Deiphobus%20is%20still%20safe.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Who induced you to cut off the adulterer's nose? It was not by this party, husband, you were sinned against. You fool, what have you done? Your wife has lost nothing in this quarter, seeing the organ of your Deiphobus is safe and sound.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22who%20induced%20you%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What ailed you to cut off the young gallant’s nose, <br>
And leave all unscathed the prime source of your woes?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/98/mode/2up?q=%22cut+off%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Good husband, who persuaded you<br>
to cut off the adulterer's nose?<br>
<span class="tab">What good did that do, you fool?<br>
Your wife loses nothing at all<br>
<span class="tab">as long as the man keeps his tool.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22good+husband%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Who persuaded you to cut off the adulterer's nose? <br>
No offence against you has been committed by this part, my good husband. <br>
Idiot, what have you done? Your wife has lost nothing here, <br>
Since your Deiphobus's cock is safe and sound.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Who%20persuaded%20you%20to%20cut%20off%20the%20adulterer%27s%20nose%3F%20No%20offence%20against%20you%20has%20been%20committed%20by%20this%20part%2C%20my%20good%20husband.%20Idiot%2C%20wh%20at%20have%20you%20done%3F%20Your%20wife%20has%20lost%20nothing%20here%2C%20Slnce%20your%20Deiphobus%27a%20cock%20is%20safe%20and%20sound.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  4, epigram  13 (4.13) (AD 89) [tr. McLean (2014)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Claudia Peregrina weds my Pudens. Bless your torches, Hymen! Let them shine! So aptly nard is mixed with cinnamon, and Theseus&#8217; honeycombs with Massic wine. So well weak vines are joined to elms; the lotus loves water thus, while myrtle loves the shore. Fair Harmony, dwell always in their bed, and Venus bless the couple [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claudia Peregrina weds my Pudens.<br />
<span class="tab">Bless your torches, Hymen! Let them shine!<br />
So aptly nard is mixed with cinnamon,<br />
<span class="tab">and Theseus&#8217; honeycombs with Massic wine.<br />
So well weak vines are joined to elms; the lotus<br />
<span class="tab">loves water thus, while myrtle loves the shore.<br />
Fair Harmony, dwell always in their bed,<br />
<span class="tab">and Venus bless the couple evermore.<br />
Let her still love him when he&#8217;s old someday;<br />
<span class="tab">may she seem young to him, even when she&#8217;s gray.</p>
<p><em>[Claudia, Rufe, meo nubit Peregrina Pudenti:<br />
Macte esto taedis, o Hymenaee, tuis.<br />
Tam bene rara suo miscentur cinnama nardo,<br />
Massica Theseis tam bene vina favis;<br />
Nec melius teneris iunguntur vitibus ulmi,<br />
Nec plus lotos aquas, litora myrtus amat.<br />
Candida perpetuo reside, Concordia, lecto,<br />
Tamque pari semper sit Venus aequa iugo:<br />
Diligat illa senem quondam, sed et ipsa marito<br />
Tum quoque, cum fuerit, non videatur anus.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  13 (4.13) (AD 89) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/32/mode/2up?q=%22claudia+peregrina%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Webb (below) notes that Claudia (based on ep. 4.53) may have been from Britain, hence the allusion to combining native (Massic) wine with foreign (Theseus' / Athenian) honey. Webb also notes the suggestion this Claudia and Pudens may be the ones mentioned in the New Testament's <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+timothy+4%3A21&version=NRSVue">2 Tim 4:21</a>, though there is no connection other than the names.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.13">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Strange, Claudia's married to a friend of mine.<br>
<span class="tab">O Hymen, be thou ready with thy pine!<br>
Thus the rare cinnamons with the spicknard joyne,<br>
<span class="tab">And the Thesean sweets with Massick wine.<br>
Nor better does the elm and vine embrace,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor the lote-tree affect the fenny place.<br>
Nor yet the myrtles more<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Love and desire the shore.<br>
Let a perpetual peace surround their bed,<br>
<span class="tab">And may their loves with equal fire be fed!<br>
May she so love him old, that to him shee,<br>
<span class="tab">Though old indeed, may not seem so to bee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22claudia%20peregrina%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Perpetual harmony their bed attend, <br>
<span class="tab">And, Venus! still the well-match'd pair befriend! <br>
May she, when Time has sunk him into years, <br>
<span class="tab">Love her old man, and cherish his white hairs; <br>
Nor he perceive her charms through age decay, <br>
<span class="tab">But think each happy sun his bridal day.<br>
[<i><a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22perpetual+harmony%22">The Spectator</a></i>, #506 (10 Oct 1712)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Their nuptial bed may smiling Concord dress, <br>
<span class="tab">And Venus still the happy union bless! <br>
Wrinkled with age, may mutual love and truth <br>
<span class="tab">To their dim eyes recall the bloom of youth.<br>
[F. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22smiling+concord%22">Lewis</a>, <i>The Rambler</i>, #167 (22 Oct 1751)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To Pudens see the beauteous Claudia vail:<br>
<span class="tab">Hail, charming torches! thrice, blest Hymen, hail!<br>
So the rare cinnamon with spikenard blends:<br>
<span class="tab">So Massic blood Thesean combs distends.<br>
Not more the elmlings on the vinelets dote;<br>
<span class="tab">On shores the myrtle, or on streams the lote.<br>
Fair Concord, o'er their constant couch preside;<br>
<span class="tab">The dovelike yoke delighted Venus guide.<br>
Him, spite of years, may she still lovely deem:<br>
<span class="tab">May she to him in youth perennial seem.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22beauteous%20claudia%22">Elphinston</a> (1782); Book 8, Part 2, ep. 16]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My friend Pudens marries Claudia Peregrina. O Hymen! be ready with your torches. As fitly is the rare cinnamon blended with nard, as fitly is the Massic wine mixed with Attic honey; nor more fitly are elms united with the tender vines; nor do rills love more the lotus, nor their banks the myrtle. Concord! garbed in white attire, reside always with that nuptial couch ! and may Venus be ever propitious to so suitable a marriage! After a lapse of years may Claudia love, as now, her then aged husband; and may she, even when she is old, not appear old in his eyes! <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/100/mode/2up?q=pudens">Amos</a> (1858), "Connubial Felicity"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Claudia Peregrina, Rufus, is about to be married to my friend Pudens. Be propitious, Hymen, with your torches. As fitly is precious cinnamon united with nard, and Massic wine with Attic honey. Nor are elms more fitly wedded to tender vines, the lotus more love the waters, or the myrtle the river's bank. May you always hover over their couch, fair Concord, and may Venus ever be auspicious to a couple so well matched. In after years may the wife cherish her husband in his old age; and may she, when grown old, not seem so to her husband.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=Claudia%20Peregrina%2C%20Rufus,to%20her%20husband.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, Hymen, here thy blessings shed, <br>
<span class="tab">Bright burns thy torches' golden flame:<br>
For Pudens doth with Claudia wed. <br>
<span class="tab">The Roman lord and British dame.<br>
How seldom nard its odours sweet<br>
<span class="tab">And cinnamon combine so well; <br>
Or Massic wines so fitly meet<br>
<span class="tab">With juice of Attic honey-cell!<br>
Not with more grace do soft with brave --<br>
<span class="tab">Do tender vines with elms unite; <br>
Nor better lotus loves the wave,<br>
<span class="tab">Or myrtles in their banks delight.<br>
Fair on this marriage-couch the while, <br>
<span class="tab">A goddess bright, let Concord rest;<br>
And kindly still may Venus smile <br>
<span class="tab">On mutual love of pair so blest.<br>
Him may her warm affection cheer,<br>
<span class="tab">When youth on time's swift pinions flies;<br>
And so may she, when age is near, <br>
<span class="tab">Seem never old to loving eyes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/36/mode/2up">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My Pudens shall his Claudia wed this day.<br>
<span class="tab">Shed, torch of Hymen, shed they brightest ray!<br>
So costly nard and cinnamon combine,<br>
<span class="tab">So blends sweet honey with the luscious wine.<br>
So clasps the tender vine her elm, so love<br>
<span class="tab">The lotus leaves the stream, myrtles the cove.<br>
Fair Concord, dwell for ever by that bed;<br>
<span class="tab">Let Venus bless the pair so meetly wed;<br>
May the wife love with love that grows not cold,<br>
<span class="tab">And never to her husband's eye seem old.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/268/mode/2up?q=%22my+pudens%22">Smith</a> (1893), "On a Friend's Wedding"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Claudia Peregrina weds, Rufus, with my own Pudens; a blessing, O Hymenaeus, be upon thy torches! So well does rare cinnamon blend with its own nard; so well Massic wine with Attic combs. Not closer are elms linked to tender vines, nor greater love hath the lotos for the waters, the myrtle for the shore. Fair Concord, rest thou unbroken on that bed, and may kind Venus be ever kindly to a bond so equal knit! May the wife love her husband when anon he is grey, and she herself, even when she is old, seem not so to her spouse!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22claudia%20peregrina%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pudens to-day his Claudia doth claim <br>
<span class="tab">In love united,<br>
A blessing, Hymen, on the twofold flame <br>
<span class="tab">Thy torch hath lighted.<br>
These are as honey poured in rarest wine;<br>
<span class="tab">Could aught be meeter?<br>
Not cinnamon with spikenard could combine <br>
<span class="tab">In fragrance sweeter.<br>
Beside this tender vine her elm doth tower <br>
<span class="tab">His might to give her.<br>
She is the myrtle sweet, the lotus flower,<br>
<span class="tab">And he her river.<br>
Fair Concord ever o’er their lives preside <br>
<span class="tab">Unviolated;<br>
Dear Venus bless the bridegroom and the bride <br>
<span class="tab">So fitly mated;<br>
And may the coming years so far and dim <br>
<span class="tab">No change discover,<br>
But she be loving still and fair to him,<br>
<span class="tab">Her grey-haired lover.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/110/mode/2up?q=%22claudia+doth+claim%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "An <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithalamium">Epithalamium</a>"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Claudia's to marry Pudens, so they say.<br>
<span class="tab">God's blessing, Rufus, on their wedding day.<br>
So cinnamon and spikenard will combine,<br>
<span class="tab">And Attic honey blend with Massic wine.<br>
So with the vine the elm is mantled o'er,<br>
<span class="tab">So Lotus loves the wave, Myrtle the shore.<br>
Unbroken union be their portion here<br>
<span class="tab">And Venus smile on wedded peer and peer.<br>
May she still love him when her hair is grey,<br>
<span class="tab">To him as youthful as she is today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22marry%20Pudens%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #164]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Hail to the wedding of Claudia Peregrina and my good friend Pudens!<br>
Oh, Spirit of Marriage, bless the rite with your blazing torch!<br>
We don't often find the best cinnamon allied with its companion nard,<br>
or fine Massic wine with Athenian honey. Nor can the vines<br>
be better wedded to the elms, the lotus more companionable<br>
to the water, the myrtle to the stream it loves.<br>
And so may clear understanding<br>
and gracious agreement<br>
ever dwell at their nuptial couch.<br>
May she love him when he grows old<br>
and seem in her husband's eyes as she does today<br>
a young bride who never grows old.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/170/mode/2up?q=peregrina">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Rufus, Claudia Peregrina marries my Pudens. A blessing, Hymen, on your torches! Even so happily is cinnamon mingled with its nard, even so happily Massic wines with Theseus' honeycombs. No more apt is the joining of elms with tender vines, nor does the lotus more love the waters or the myrtle the shore. Fair Harmony, dwell always in their bed and let Venus ever favor so well-matched a pair. Let her love him when one day he is old; but for her part, let her not seem old to her husband, even when old she is.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Rufus%2C%20Claudia%20Peregrina,old%20she%20IS.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My dear friend takes a wife, and we must light<br>
<span class="tab">The marriage torches that will bless this night<br>
As sweet is joined with spicy, or as wine <br>
<span class="tab">Is soothed with honey, or as curling vine<br>
Does climb and hang as close as close can be<br>
<span class="tab">Around the of its protective tree,<br>
As waterlily floats in liquid rest,<br>
<span class="tab">Or rooted myrtle shines on shore its best --<br>
So be they harmonized in wedded life.<br>
<span class="tab">Let Venus bless them both and ease all strife.<br>
When they grow old, let her his ills assuage;<br>
<span class="tab">Let him not even recognize her age.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22dear%20friend%20takes%20a%20wife%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now Claudia to my Pudens comes a bride:<br>
<span class="tab">blessings on their Hymen torches!<br>
Cinnamon blends well with cinnamon oil,<br>
<span class="tab">Massic with Attic honey blends.<br>
Vine is not more closely twined to elm; no<br>
<span class="tab">myrtle more loves coast; lotus pool.<br>
May constant Harmony attend their bed,<br>
<span class="tab">likewise Venus their like pledge.<br>
Let her still love him old, and him not see<br>
<span class="tab">her old age come, though old she be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22now%20claudia%22">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  4, epigram  21 (4.21) (AD 89) [tr. May (1629)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That in the Heavens no gods there be Selius affirms, and proves, &#8217;cause he Still thinking so lives happily. [Nullos esse deos, inane caelum Adfirmat Segius: probatque, quod se Factum, dum negat haec, videt beatum.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: That heav&#8217;ns are voide, &#038; that no gods there are, Rich Paulus saith, and all his [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That in the Heavens no gods there be<br />
Selius affirms, and proves, &#8217;cause he<br />
Still thinking so lives happily.</p>
<p><em>[Nullos esse deos, inane caelum<br />
Adfirmat Segius: probatque, quod se<br />
Factum, dum negat haec, videt beatum.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  21 (4.21) (AD 89) [tr. May (1629)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5?rgn=div1;view=fulltext#:~:text=THat%20in%20the,so%20lives%20happily." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D4%3Apoem%3D21">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>That heav'ns are voide, & that no gods there are,<br>
Rich <i>Paulus</i> saith, and all his proofe is this:<br>
That while such blasphemies pronounce he dare,<br>
He liveth here in ease, and earthly blisse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22110%20that%22">Harington</a> (1618), ep. 110 (Book 2, ep. 14), 
"Against an Atheist"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Selius affirms, in heav'n no gods there are:<br>
And while he thrives, and they their thunder spare,<br>
His daring tenet to the world seems fair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22selius%20affirms%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Selius asserts, there is no providence:<br>
Anmd what he thus asserts, he proves from hence;<br>
Tht such a villain as himself still lives;<br>
And, what is more, is courted too, and thrives.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22selius%20afferts%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A Selius swears there is no god,<br>
And thus attests an oath so odd.<br>
Heaven has no habitant, quoth he;<br>
Else how could heaven so smile on me?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22selius%20fwears%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 12]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That there's no God, John gravely swears,<br>
And quotes, in proof, his own affairs;<br>
For how should such an atheist thrive,<br>
If there was any God alive?<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22john%20gravely%22">Anon</a>., <em>Westminster Review,</em> 1853-04]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Selius affirms that there are no Gods, and that Heaven is empty; and he produces a proof of his assertion; viz. that while he denies all Providence, he beholds himself affluent.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/92/mode/2up?q=selius">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Selius affirms that there are no gods, and that heaven is empty; and thinks he has sufficient proof of his opinion in seeing himself become rich while he maintains it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=Selius%20affirms%20that%20there%20are%20no%20gods%2C%20and%20that%20heaven%20is%20empty%3B%20and%20thinks%20he%20has%20sufficient%20proof%20of%20his%20opinion%20in%20seeing%20himself%20become%20rich%20while%20he%20maintains%20it.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"There are no gods: heaven is empty," Segius asserts; and he proves it, for in the midst of these denials he sees himself made rich!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22segius%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When Segius declaims he knows<br>
<span class="tab">That Heaven is void and gods are not,<br>
It is because his record shows<br>
<span class="tab">That knaves may have a prosperous lot.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/112/mode/2up?q=segius">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Test of Facts"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"There are no gods," says Segius, "and the blue<br>
Is void." He lives and thrives and proves it true.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=segius">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 169]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"There are no gods, and heaven's all a lie!<br>
<span class="tab">No gods," said Segius, "give a damn or care<br>
What happens to us." And he must be right:<br>
<span class="tab">Today the rat's a multi-millionaire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/42/mode/2up?q=segius">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sergius swears by the hollow sky that there are no gods,<br>
and the truth is plain, since he,<br>
denouncing them, is wealthy as can be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/172/mode/2up?q=%22sergius+swears%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab">"The skies are empty<br>
<span class="tab">and the gods are dead,"<br>
says Segius, the proof of which<br>
is that he sees himself made rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/336/mode/2up?q=%22skies+are+empty%22">Porter</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"God doesn't exist, there's no one in the skies,"<br>
Says Segius. If it's justice he denies,<br>
He's right: would he be wealthy otherwise?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/54/mode/2up?q=segius">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Segius declares that there are no gods, that the sky is empty; and proves it, for in the course of these denials he sees himself become a rich man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Segius%20declares%20that%20there%20are%20no%20gods%2C%20that%20the%20sky%20is%20empty%3B%20and%20proves%20it%2C%20for%20in%20the%20course%20of%20these%20denials%20he%20sees%20hirnself%20become%20a%20rich%20man.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This darkling world he claims, with rue<br>
Has run itself into a ditch.<br>
And he can prove his thesis true:<br>
In such a cosmos -- he is rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%224.21%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Segius says there are no gods, no heaven.<br>
The proof he offers? He's a rich man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/20/mode/2up?q=segius">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Proof"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Segius asserts that there are no gods, that heaven is empty. And he’s the proof, because, even as he denies these things, he sees that he’s become prosperous.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://aleatorclassicus.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/martial-epigrams-4-21/">@aleatorclassicus</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Segius claims there are no gods, the skies<br>
are bare. He proves it, too: while he denies<br>
the gods exist, he sees his fortune rise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/34/mode/2up?q=%22segius+claims%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Galla, deny; and render passion strong: But, prudent Galla, don&#8217;t deny too long. [Galla, nega: satiatur amor nisi gaudia torquent: sed noli nimium, Galla, negare diu.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Galla deny, be not too eas&#8217;ly gain&#8217;d, For Love will glut with Joys too soon obtain&#8217;d. [tr. Cotton (1686)] Galla, say &#8220;No:&#8221; love is soon [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galla, deny; and render passion strong:<br />
But, prudent Galla, don&#8217;t deny too long.</p>
<p><em>[Galla, nega: satiatur amor nisi gaudia torquent:<br />
sed noli nimium, Galla, negare diu.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  38 (4.38) (AD 89) [tr. Elphinston (1782), Book 12, ep. 195] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22render%20passion%20strong%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D4%3Apoem%3D38">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Galla deny, be not too eas'ly gain'd,<br>
For Love will glut with Joys too soon obtain'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/118/mode/2up">Cotton</a> (1686)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say "No:" love is soon sated, unless our pleasures are mixed with some pain; <br>
but do not continue, Galla, to say "No" too long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=Galla%2C%20say%20%22No%3A%22%20love%20is%20soon%20sated%2C%20unless%20our%20pleasures%20are%20mixed%20with%20some%20pain%3B%20but%20do%20not%20continue%2C%20Galla%2C%20to%20say%20%22No%22%20too%20long.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Refuse me, Galla; love cloys if its pleasures torture not:<br>
but refuse not, Galla, too long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22love%20cloys%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say "no" -- Tease love and you renew it.<br>
But prithee, Galla, do not overdo it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22tease+love%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Say you won't Galla: For passion cloys<br>
if its joys are not tormenting<br>
But don't take too long in relenting!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/178/mode/2up?q=%22passion+cloys%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say no, for love, unless<br>
It teases, cloys with happiness.<br>
Don't take too long, though, to say yes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/56/mode/2up?q=galla">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say no. Love palIs, unless its joys are torture. But Galla, don't say no for too long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Galla%2C%20say%20no.%20Love%20palIs%2C%20unless%20its%20joys%20are%20torture.%20But%20Galla%2C%20don%27t%20say%20no%20for%20too%20longe">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>A "No" can build love's piquancy,<br>
But don't, too long, say "No" to me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say no. Love is satiated unless pleasures torment.<br>
But, Galla, do not say no for too long!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams_Book_Two/WC38cQPn17QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA52&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22unless%20pleasures%20torment%22">Williams</a> (2004)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"No" is enticing; so is wooing slow.<br>
But nothing works till you stop saying "No."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=4.38">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say no. Some torment makes love stronger.<br>
But, Galla, don’t keep saying no much longer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=onepage&q=%22some%20torment%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, tell me "No": love stales unless its joys bring pain.<br>
But, Galla, don't say "No" for very long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR4&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22love%20stales%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Without a wait<br>
<span class="tab">or some hard trial,<br>
love won’t amuse me.<br>
So hesitate<br>
<span class="tab">(just for a while ...)<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Galla%2C%20Refuse%20me,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Galla, say No, for Love will cloy<br>
<span class="tab">Without some torments mixed with joy.<br>
But, Galla, do not get me wrong --<br>
<span class="tab">Please don’t say No to me too long.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Galla%2C%20say%20No,Mollie%20Barger">Barger</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vesuvius, once latticed with vine shade, With grapes from which the richest wine was made &#8212; This is where Bacchus had his favorite haunt And Satyrs could their wildest dances vaunt. Here Venus more than Sparta made her place. Here Hercules brought blessings for the race. What once in beauty and renown was cherished In [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vesuvius, once latticed with vine shade,<br />
<span class="tab">With grapes from which the richest wine was made &#8212;<br />
This is where Bacchus had his favorite haunt<br />
<span class="tab">And Satyrs could their wildest dances vaunt.<br />
Here Venus more than Sparta made her place.<br />
<span class="tab">Here Hercules brought blessings for the race.<br />
What once in beauty and renown was cherished<br />
<span class="tab">In fire and ashes has with horror perished.<br />
Were it allowed immortal gods to rue it,<br />
<span class="tab">They would have wished they were not doomed to do it.</p>
<p><em>[Hic est pampineis viridis modo Vesbius umbris,<br />
Presserat hic madidos nobilis uva lacus:<br />
Haec iuga, quam Nysae colles, plus Bacchus amavit,<br />
Hoc nuper Satyri monte dedere choros.<br />
Haec Veneris sedes, Lacedaemone gratior illi,<br />
Hic locus Herculeo numine clarus erat.<br />
Cuncta iacent flammis et tristi mersa favilla:<br />
Nec superi vellent hoc licuisse sibi.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  44 (4.44) (AD 89) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=vesuvius" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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On the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in AD 79, which destroyed the towns of Pompeii (whose patron was Venus) and Herculaneum (supposedly founded by Hercules), as well as much of the surrounding countryside.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.44">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Vesuvius shaded once with greenest vines,<br>
<span class="tab">Where pressed grapes did yield the noblest wines.<br>
Which hills far more they say Bacchus lov'd,<br>
<span class="tab">Where Satyrs once in mirthfull dances mov'd,<br>
Where Venus dwelt, and better lov'd the place<br>
<span class="tab">Than Sparta; where Alcides Temple was,<br>
Is now burnt downe, rak'd up in ashes sad.<br>
<span class="tab">The gods are griev'd that such great power they had.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.75?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vesuvio, cover'd with the fruitful vine,<br>
<span class="tab">Here flourish'd once, and ran with floods of wine.<br>
here Bacchus oft to the cool shades retir'd,<br>
<span class="tab">And his own native Nisa less admir'd:<br>
Oft to the mountain's airy tops advanc'd,<br>
<span class="tab">The frisking Satyrs on the summits danc'd.<br>
Alcides here, here Venus grac'd the shore,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor lov'd her fav'rite Lacedæmon more!<br>
Now piles of ashes , spreading all around<br>
<span class="tab">In undistinguish'd heaps, deform the ground.<br>
The gods themselves the ruin'd seats bemoan;<br>
<span class="tab">And blame the mischiefs that themselves have done.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/168/mode/2up?q=vesuvio">Addison</a> (1705)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vesuvius this! So lately crown'd with vines!<br>
<span class="tab">Whence in full currents flowed the generous wines!<br>
By Bacchus more than Nysa's hills belov'd!<br>
<span class="tab">Upon whose top in dance the satyrs mov'd!<br>
The seat of Venus, more than Sparta dear!<br>
<span class="tab">Proud of her name Heraclea once was here!<br>
All drown'd in flames! with ashes cover'd o'er!<br>
<span class="tab">the gods, who caus'd the ill, their power deplore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Vesuvius">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here Vesuvius late with rich festoons was green:<br>
<span class="tab">Here noblest clusters gusht a lake serene.<br>
These beyond Nysa's hights the god advanc'd:<br>
<span class="tab">On this glad moutnain gamesom satyrs danc'd.<br>
This, more than Sparta, joy'd the laughing dame:<br>
<span class="tab">These summits prouden'd by Alcides' name.<br>
Smoke, embers, flames, have laid the glories low:<br>
<span class="tab">The pow'rs regret the very pow'r they glow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 4, part 1, ep. 33]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yonder is Vesuvius, lately verdant with the shadowy vines; there a noble grape under pressure yielded copious lakes of wine; that hill Bacchus preferred to the hills of Nysa; there lately the Satyrs led their dances; there Venus had a residence more agreeable to her than Lacedæmon; that spot was made illustrious by the name of Hercules. Now, every thing is laid low by flames, and is buried under the sad ashes. Surely the Gods must regret that they possessed so much power for mischief.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/236/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 7, ep. 167]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is Vesuvius, lately green with umbrageous vines; here the noble grape had pressed the dripping coolers. These are the heights which Bacchus loved more than the hills of Nysa; on this mountain the satyrs recently danced. This was the abode of Venus, more grateful to her than Lacedaemon; this was the place renowned by the divinity of Hercules. All now lies buried in flames and sad ashes. Even the gods would have wished not to have had the power to cause such a catastrophe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=This%20is%20Vesuvius,such%20a%20catastrophe.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is Vesbius, green yesterday with viny shades; here had the noble grape loaded the dripping vats; these ridges Bacchus loved more than the hills of Nysa; on this mount of late the Satyrs set afoot their dances; this was the haunt of Venus, more pleasant to her than Lacedaemon; this spot was made glorious by the name of Hercules. All lies drowned in fire and melancholy ash; even the High Gods could have wished this had not been permitted them. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22walter%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fair were thy shading vines and rich to fill <br>
<span class="tab">The overflowing wine-press year by year,<br>
Bacchus hath loved thee more than Nysa’s hill, <br>
<span class="tab">Vesuvius, for his fauns held revel here;<br>
Sweet Venus held no other haunt so dear,<br>
<span class="tab">Alcides made thee glorious with his name, <br>
Flame-swept art thou, a waste of ashes drear,<br>
<span class="tab">And heaven remorseful hides its face for shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/120/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vesuvius here was green with mantling vine,<br>
<span class="tab">Here brimming vats o'erflowed with noble wine.<br>
These hills to jocund Bacchus were more dear<br>
<span class="tab">Than Nysa, and the Satyrs reveled here.<br>
This blest retreat could Cytherea please,<br>
<span class="tab">This owned the fame of godlike Hercules;<br>
Now dismal ashes  all and scorching flame.<br>
<span class="tab">Such dire caprice might move a god to shame.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=vesuvius">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 84]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Behold Vesuvius, lately green<br>
<span class="tab">With vineyard-covered slopes!<br>
Here did the noble grapevine yield<br>
<span class="tab">Beyond one's wildest hopes!<br>
<br>
Here are the ridges Bacchus loves<br>
<span class="tab">More than those of his youth.<br>
And here till late his Satyrs danced<br>
<span class="tab">There merry dance uncouth.<br>
<br>
Here stood Pompeii, dearer far<br>
<span class="tab">To Aphrodite than<br>
The Lacedaemonian island where<br>
<span class="tab">Her early life began.<br>
<br>
And here stood Herculaneum,<br>
<span class="tab">Founded by Hercules<br>
Where here he paused to rest the oxen<br>
<span class="tab">Of Geryones.<br>
<br>
All this, by fire and flame consumed,<br>
<span class="tab">Lies sunk, so sad a sight<br>
The very gods might wish they had<br>
<span class="tab">Not had it in their might.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/44/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Only a short while ago old smoky Vesuvius <br>
<span class="tab">bore a green burden of vineyards on his shoulders <br>
<span class="tab">and the vats below were clogged with gorgeous grapes.<br>
<span class="tab">This was a place whose forests high in the air meant more to Bacchus than his Nysean hills. <br>
<span class="tab">And only a short while ago Satyrs led their troupes down this same mountainside. Here were Venus’ haunts <br>
<span class="tab">more appealing to her than Sparta. <br>
And this whole landscape knew the sound of Hercules’ roving name. He too made it holy. <br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">And now, there it lies submerged in ashes, <br>
crumpled, shorn by the flames, <br>
so curiously at odds <br>
with the will of the gods<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/180/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hear the testament of death:<br>
yesterday beneath Vesuvius' side<br>
the grape ripened in green shade,<br>
the dripping vats with their viny tide<br>
squatted on hill turf: Bacchus<br>
loved this land more than fertile Nysa:<br>
here the satyrs ran, this was Venus' home,<br>
sweeter to her than Lacedaemon<br>
or the rocks of foam-framed Cyprus.<br>
One city now in ashes the great name<br>
of Hercules once blessed, one other<br>
to the salty sea was manacled. <br>
All is cold silver, all fused with death<br>
murdered by the fire of Heaven. Even<br>
the Gods repent this faculty<br>
that power of death which may not be recalled.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/336/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">Porter</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is Vesuvius, yesterday green with shady vines.<br>
Here notable grapes weighted down the wine-steeped vats.<br>
These the heights that Bacchus loved more than Nysa's hills.<br>
On this mountain the Satyrs began their dances lately.<br>
This was Venus' seat, more pleasing to her than Sparta.<br>
This place was made renowned by Hercules' godhead.<br>
All lies sunk in flames and bleak ash. Even the high gods<br>
Could wish that this had not been allowed to them.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=vesuvius">Shepherd</a> (1987)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>This is Vesuvius, but lately green with shade of vines. Here the noble grape loaded the vats to overflowing. These slopes were more dear to Bacchus than Nysa's hills, on this mountain not long ago Satyrs held their dances. This was Venus' dwelling, more pleasing to her than Lacedaemon, this spot the name of Hercules made famous. All lies sunk in flames and drear ashes. The High Ones themselves would rather this had not been in their power.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=This%20is%20Vesuvius,in%20their%20power.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here is Vesuvius, viney and shade-green only yesterday;<br>
here, on these slopes Bacchus loved more than Nysa’s hills,<br>
the noble grapes outgave themselves time and again;<br>
on this mountain the Satyrs leaped and danced,<br>
for this was Venus’s adopted home, dearer to her than Sparta,<br>
and here a proud town bore the name of Hercules.<br>
It’s all drowned now by fire, sunk to drab ash. What won’t<br>
the high gods permit themselves, they could well ask.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=Here%20is%20Vesuvius,could%20well%20ask.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>This is Vesuvius, green just now with vines;<br>
<span class="tab">here fine grapes loaded brimming vats. These heights<br>
were loved by Bacchus more than Nysa's slopes;<br>
<span class="tab">on this mount, satyrs lately danced their rites.<br>
this home of Venus pleased her more than Sparta;<br>
<span class="tab">this spot the name of Hercules made proud.<br>
All lie engulfed in flames and dismal ashes:<br>
<span class="tab">the gods themselves regret it was allowed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/36/mode/2up?q=vesuvius">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who sneers at epigrams and feigns to scout them, Believe me, does not know a thing about them. The real bores are the dreary epic spinners Who rant of Tereus&#8217; or Thyestes&#8217; dinners, Who rave of cunning Daedalus applying The wings to Icarus to teach him flying, Or else to show what dullards they esteem [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who sneers at epigrams and feigns to scout them,<br />
<span class="tab">Believe me, does not know a thing about them.<br />
The real bores are the dreary epic spinners<br />
<span class="tab">Who rant of Tereus&#8217; or Thyestes&#8217; dinners,<br />
Who rave of cunning Daedalus applying<br />
<span class="tab">The wings to Icarus to teach him flying,<br />
Or else to show what dullards they esteem us<br />
<span class="tab">Bleat endless pastorals on Polyphemus.<br />
My unpretentious Muse is not bombastic,<br />
<span class="tab">But deems these robes of Tragedy fantastic.<br />
&#8220;Such things,&#8221; you say, &#8220;earn all men&#8217;s commendation,<br />
<span class="tab">As works of genius and inspiration.&#8221;<br />
Ah, very true &#8212; those pompous classic leaders<br />
<span class="tab">Do get the praise &#8212; but then I get the readers!</p>
<p><em>[Nescit, crede mihi, quid sint epigrammata, Flacce,<br />
Qui tantum lusus ista iocosque vocat.<br />
Ille magis ludit, qui scribit prandia saevi<br />
Tereos, aut cenam, crude Thyesta, tuam,<br />
Aut puero liquidas aptantem Daedalon alas,<br />
Pascentem Siculas aut Polyphemon ovis.<br />
A nostris procul est omnis vesica libellis,<br />
Musa nec insano syrmate nostra tumet.<br />
&#8220;Illa tamen laudant omnes, mirantur, adorant.&#8221;<br />
Confiteor: laudant illa, sed ista legunt.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  49 (4.49) (AD 89) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/122/mode/2up?q=%22sneers+at+epigrams%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Valerius Flaccus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.49">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Flaccus thou knowest not Epigrams, <br>
<span class="tab">no more then babes or boyes:<br>
Which deemst them to be nothyng els,<br>
<span class="tab">but sports and triflyng toyes:<br>
He rather toyes, and sports it out,<br>
<span class="tab">whiche doeth in Verse recite<br>
Fell Tereus dinner, or whiche doeth,<br>
<span class="tab">Thyestes supper write:<br>
Or he whiche telles how Dedalus,<br>
<span class="tab">did teache his sonne to flie:<br>
Which telleth eke of Plyphem,<br>
<span class="tab">the Shepheard with one eye.<br>
From bookes of myne, are quight exempt,<br>
<span class="tab">all rancour, rage and gall:<br>
No plaier in his euishe weeds,<br>
<span class="tab">heare prankyng see you shall:<br>
Yet these men doe adore (thou sayest)<br>
<span class="tab">laude, like and love: in deed,<br>
I graunt you sir those they do laude,<br>
<span class="tab">perdie but these thei reed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22flaccus+thou+knowest%22">Kendall</a> (1577)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Thou know'st not, trust me, what are Epigrams,<br>
<span class="tab">Flaccus, who think'st them jest and wanton games.<br>
He wantons more, who writes what horrid meat<br>
<span class="tab">The plagu'd Tyestes and vex't Tereus eat,<br>
Or Daedalus fitting is boy to fly,<br>
<span class="tab">Or Polyphemus' flocks in Sicily.<br>
My booke no windy words nor turgid needes,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor swells my Muse with mad Cothurnall weedes.<br>
Yet those things all men praise, admire, adore.<br>
<span class="tab">True; they praise those, but read these poems more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.29?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though little know'st what epigram contains,<br>
<span class="tab">Who think'st it all a joke in jocund strains.<br>
He direly jokes, who bids a Tereus dine;<br>
<span class="tab">Or dresses suppers like, Thyestes, thine;<br>
Feins him who fits the boy with melting wings,<br>
<span class="tab">Or the sweet shepherd Polyphemus sings.<br>
Or muse disdains by fustian to excel;<br>
<span class="tab">by rant to rattle, or in buskin swell.<br>
Those strains the learn'd applaud, admire, adore.<br>
<span class="tab">Those they applaud, I own; but these explore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22joke%20in%20jocund%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), ep. 48]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You little know what Epigram contains,<br>
<span class="tab">Who deem it but a jest in jocund strains.<br>
He rather jokes, who writes what horrid meat<br>
<span class="tab">The plagued Thyestes and vex't Tereus eat;<br>
Or tells who robed the boy with melting wings;<br>
<span class="tab">Or of the shepherd Polyphemus sings.<br>
Our muse disdains by fustian to excel,<br>
<span class="tab">By rant to rattle, or in buskins swell.<br>
Though turgid themes all men admire, adore,<br>
<span class="tab">Be well assured they read my poems more.<br>
[<em><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22jest%20in%20jocund%20strains%22&pg=PA201&printsec=frontcover">Westminster Review</a></em> (Apr 1853)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He knows not, Flaccus, believe me, what Epigrams really are,<br> 
who calls them mere trifles and frivolities. <br>
He is much more frivolous, who writes of the feast of the cruel <br>
Tereus; or the banquet of the unnatural Thyestes; <br>
or of Daedalus fitting melting wings to his son's body;<br> 
or of Polyphemus feeding his Sicilian flocks. <br>
From my effusions all tumid ranting is excluded; <br>
nor does my Muse swell with the mad garment of Tragedy.<br> 
"But everything written in such a style is praised, admired, and adored by all." <br>
I admit it. Things in that style are praised; but mine are read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=He%20knows%20not,mine%20are%20read.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He does not know, believe me, what epigrams are, Flaccus, <br>
who styles them only frivolities and quips. <br>
He is more frivolous who writes of the meal of savage <br>
Tereus, or of thy banquet, dyspeptic Thyestes, <br>
or of Daedalus fitting to his son melting wings, <br>
or of Polyphemus pasturing Sicilian sheep. <br>
Far from poems of mine is all turgescence, <br>
nor does my Muse swell with frenzied tragic train. <br>
"Yet all men praise those tragedies, admire, worship them." <br>
I grant it: those they praise, but they read the others.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22he%20does%20not%20know%22&pg=PA264&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What makes an epigram he knows not best<br>
<span class="tab">Who deems it, Flaccus, but an idle jest.<br>
They rather jest, who Tereus' crime indict<br>
<span class="tab">Or the foul banquet of Thyestes write,<br>
Or Icarus equipped with waxen wing<br>
<span class="tab">Or Polyphemus and his shepherding.<br>
No fustian ornaments my page abuse<br>
<span class="tab">Nor struts in senseless pomp my tragic Muse.<br>
"Men praise," you say, "and call such verse divine."<br>
<span class="tab">Yes, they may praise it, but they study mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22makes%20an%20epigram%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #188, "A Defence of Epigram"] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He does not know what epigrams<br>
<span class="tab">Are really meant to be<br>
Who calls them only jests and jokes<br>
<span class="tab">Or comic poetry --<br>
A dimwit dilettante's delight,<br>
<span class="tab">Mere <i>vers de societé</i><br>
He really is the one who jests<br>
<span class="tab">Who writes about the stew<br>
Served Tereus, or that loathsome meal<br>
<span class="tab">Of children served to you,<br>
Thyestes, indigestion-prone,<br>
<span class="tab">Of sons your brother slew.<br>
Or Daedalus fitting Icarus<br>
<span class="tab">With two liquescent wings,<br>
Or who of Polyphemus tending <br>
<span class="tab">Sheep in Sicily sings,<br>
And those huge, monstrous boulders which<br>
<span class="tab">He at Ulysses flings.<br>
Far from my verse is any trace<br>
<span class="tab">Of rank turgidity.<br>
My Muse has never donned the robes<br>
<span class="tab">Of pompous tragedy.<br>
"But that's what's praised!" But what is read?<br>
<span class="tab">My earthy poetry!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22to+flaccus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>To say that epigrams are only jokes and gags<br>
is not to know what they are, my good friend Flaccus.<br>
The poet is more entertaining who asks you to dine<br>
at the cannibal board of Tereus, or describes,<br>
oh indigestible Thyestes, your dinner party;<br>
or the diverting poet turns your attention away <br>
to the mythical sight of Daedalus, fittingly typed<br>
as the one who tailored those tender wings for his son;<br>
or wanders off with Polyphemus, the pastoral giant<br>
pasturing preposterous sheep. Far be it from me <br>
to enlarge on the standard rhetorical situation<br>
and wax eloquent in the interests of inflation.<br>
Our Muse makes no use of the billowing robes<br>
that stalk the figures of Tragedy. "But those poems<br>
are what everyone praises and adores."<br>
I admit it, they praise them, but they read ours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/182/mode/2up?q=tereus">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Who deem epigrams mere trifles, <br>
<i>Flaccus</i>, know not epigram.<br>
He trifles who describes the meal <br>
wild <i>Tereus</i>, rude <i>Thyestes</i> ate,<br>
The <i>Cretan Glider</i> moulting wax, <br>
the one-eyed shepherd herding sheep.<br>
Foreign to my verse the tragic sock, <br>
it's turgid, ranting rhetoric.<br>
"Men praise -- esteem -- revere these works." <br>
True: them they praise ... while reading me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA171&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22who%20deem%20epigrams%22">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Anybody who calls them just frivolities and jests, Flaccus, doesn't know what epigrams are, believe me. More frivolous is the poet who writes about the meal of savage Tereus or your dinner, dyspeptic Thyestes, or Daedalus fitting his boy with liquid wings, or Polyphemus feeding Sicilian sheep. All bombast is far from my little books, neither does my Muse swell with tragedy's fantastic robe. "And yet all the world praises such things and admires and marvels."  I admit it: that they praise, but this they read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Anybody%20who%20calls,this%20they%20read.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Quite clueless, Flaccus, all these sorry folks<br>
<span class="tab">Who brand short poems mere badinage and jokes.<br>
Want to know who's more idle? The big boys,<br>
<span class="tab">Our Epic Poets, who rehearse the joys<br>
Of serving human flesh up à la carte --<br>
<span class="tab">Tereus' bloody banquet or the huge tart<br>
Chez Thyestes ("It's a little gristly!").<br>
<span class="tab">Or they serve us crap, like how remissly<br>
Daedalus made -- with wax, imagine! -- wings<br>
<span class="tab">For his poor doomed son. Then Big Epic sings<br>
Of arms and the -- not "man" -- one-eyed giant?<br>
<span class="tab">Polyphemus: his brain was far from pliant,<br>
So Homer made him watch sheep in Sicily.<br>
<span class="tab">Pardon me for carping so pissily,<br>
Flaccus, at insults to my epigrams,<br>
<span class="tab">So far from the bloated whimsy that crams<br>
Our big-assed epics. All men blare in praise<br>
<span class="tab">of these "classics," you say, and bask in their rays.<br>
I will not disagree, but mark my word:<br>
<span class="tab">Some day, far off, a wise man will be heard<br>
To say, "Classics we all want to have read,<br>
<span class="tab">Never to read." My books get read instead!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=Quite%20clueless%2C%20Flaccus,get%20read%20instead!">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You think my epigrams are silly?<br>
<span class="tab">Far worse is bombast uttered shrilly --<br>
Like Tereus baking human pie.<br>
<span class="tab">Or Daedal son who tried to fly.<br>
Monster Cyclopes keeping sheep.<br>
My verse is of such nonsense free.<br>
<span class="tab">It poses not as tragedy.<br>
But praise for those things does exceed?<br>
<span class="tab">Those things men praise -- but mine they read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT14&printsec=frontcover&bsq=4.49">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>One doesn't fathom epigrams, believe me,<br>
<span class="tab">Flaccus, who labels them mere jokes and play.<br>
He's trifling who writes of savage Tereus' mean<br>
<span class="tab">or yours, queasy Thyestes, or the way<br>
Daedalus fit his boy with melting wings<br>
<span class="tab">or Polyphemus grazed Sicilian flocks.<br>
My little books shun bombast and my Muse<br>
<span class="tab">won't rave in puffed-up tragedy's long frocks.<br>
"Yet all admire, praise, honor those," Indeed,<br>
<span class="tab">they praise those, I confess, but these they read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22fathom+epigrams%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Trust me, Flaccus, anyone who says it's just "ditties" and "jokes" <br>
doesn't know what epigram is. <br>
The real joker is the poet who describes the feast of cruel <br>
Tereus, or the dinner that gave Thyestes indigestion, <br>
or Daedalus strapping melting wings to his son, <br>
or Polyphemus pasturing his Sicilian sheep. <br>
No puffery gets near my little books; <br>
my Muse doesn't swell and strut in the trailing robe of Tragedy. <br>
"But that stuff gets the applause, the awe, the worship." <br>
I can't deny it: that stuff does get the applause. But my stuff gets read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=ditties%20and%20jokes%20doesn't">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

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		<description><![CDATA[We may all resort, at the summer solstice, to the warmest spots of Italy, to Ardea, Pestum, and Baiae, fervid with the heat of the constellation Leo, since Curiatus condemned the air of Tivoli, when he was on the point of being transported from its extolled waters to those of the Styx. Fate is not [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may all resort, at the summer solstice, to the warmest spots of Italy, to Ardea, Pestum, and Baiae, fervid with the heat of the constellation Leo, since Curiatus condemned the air of Tivoli, when he was on the point of being transported from its extolled waters to those of the Styx. Fate is not to be diverted by localities: when death comes, the pestilent Sardinia is to be found in the middle of the healthy Tivoli.</p>
<p><em>[Ardea solstitio Castranaque rura petantur<br />
Quique Cleonaeo sidere fervet ager,<br />
Cum Tiburtinas damnet Curiatius auras<br />
Inter laudatas ad Styga missus aquas.<br />
5Nullo fata loco possis excludere: cum mors<br />
Venerit, in medio Tibure Sardinia est.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  60 (4.60) (AD 89) [tr. Amos (1858)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/242/mode/2up?q=sardinia" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Sardinia was considered a proverbially unhealthy locale, while Tivoli (Tibur) was considered a healthy resort to travel to during the summer.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.60">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When Leo rages with the summer's sun,<br>
<span class="tab">From pestilential climates never run;<br>
Since, in the wholesom'st and the purest air,<br>
<span class="tab">The destinies Croatius did not spare.<br>
When thy time's come, death from no place is bound,<br>
<span class="tab">Sardinia in the midst of Tibur's found.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sardinia%20in%20the%20midst%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To Ardea, Pestum, roam, and e'er so far;<br>
<span class="tab">Or glow beneath the Cleonean star:<br>
While Curiatius damns Tiburtian gales,<br>
<span class="tab">As down the healthfull streams to Styx he fails.<br>
The Fates no place debars: if Death be there,<br>
<span class="tab">Alike is Tibur's and Sardinia's air.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20place%20debars%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 9.10]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let us in the summer solstice retire to Ardea and the country about Paestum, and to the tract which burns under the Cleonaean constellation; since Curiatius has condemned the air of Tivoli, carried off as he was to the Styx notwithstanding its much-lauded waters. From no place can you shut out fate: when death comes, Sardinia is in the midst of Tivoli itself.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=Let%20us%20in,of%20Tivoli%20itself.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Go where you will, you cannot shut<br>
The door on Fate; when Death draws nigh,<br>
Then far Sardinia is as near<br>
As Tibur.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22as%20tibur%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Seek ye Ardea in summer's heat, and the field sof  castum, and teh meads scorched by Cleonae's star, seeing that Curiatius condemns Tibur's air; from amid waters so belauded was he sent to Styx. In no spot canst thou shut out fate; when death comes even in Tibur's midst is a Sardinia.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22curiatius%20condemns%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now must we say, if thou be wise <br>
<span class="tab">In summer’s heat to Ardea turn,<br>
Or seek the plain where Castrum lies<br>
<span class="tab">And the hot stars of Leo burn.<br>
He that is laid in yonder grave<br>
<span class="tab">Saith, "Tarry not but get thee gone."<br>
Here sought he Arno’s healing wave,<br>
<span class="tab">But found the stream of Acheron?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22stream+of+Acheron%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To Ardea and Castrum let us go<br>
<span class="tab">In the dog-days when all the heaven's aglow.<br>
Tibur's a death trap; Curiatius died,<br>
<span class="tab">Sent mid its breezes to the Stygian tide.<br>
Death ranges at his will; when so inclined<br>
<span class="tab">In Tibur's bosom he'll Sardinia find.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=curiatius">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 195]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now in the blazing heat we might as well escape<br>
to Castrum, or Ardea, or any sunburnt landscape,<br>
since Curiatius has laid a curse<br>
on the air of Tivoli by dying there,<br>
where the waters are also salubrious.<br>
No place can fend off death. It's no worse<br>
to expire in sickly Sardinia than in a spa.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/186/mode/2up?q=curiatius">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>At the solstice let us make for Ardea and the Castran countryside and whatever fields are scorched by Cleonae's constellation, since Curiatius damns the breezes of Tibur, dispatched to Styx amid her lauded waters. In no place can you shut out fate; when death comes, in the midst of Tibur is Sardinia.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=At%20the%20solstice%20let%20us%20make%20for%20Ardea%20and%20the%20Castran%20countryside%20and%20whatever%20fields%20are%20scorched%20by%20Cleonae%27s%20constellation%2Cf%20since%20Curiatius%20damns%20the%20breezes%20of%20Tibur%2C%20despatched%20to%20Styx%20amid%20her">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You serve the best wine always, my dear sir,<br />
<span class="tab">And yet they say your wines are not so good.<br />
They say you are four times a widower.<br />
<span class="tab">They say &#8230; A drink? I don&#8217;t believe I would.</p>
<p><em>[Tu Setina quidem semper vel Massica ponis,<br />
Papyle, sed rumor tam bona vina negat:<br />
Diceris hac factus caelebs quater esse lagona.<br />
Nec puto nec credo, Papyle, nec sitio.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  69 (4.69) (AD 89) [tr. Cunningham (1971)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22best%20wine%20always%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.69">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When I with thee, Cinna, doe die or sup,<br>
Thou still do'st offer me they Gossips cup:<br>
And though it savour well, and be well spiced,<br>
Yet I to taste thereof am not enticed.<br>
Now sith you needs will have me cause alledge,<br>
While I straine curt'sie in that cup to pledge:<br>
One said, thou mad'st that cup so hote of spice,<br>
That it had made thee now a widower twice.<br>
<span class="tab">I will not say 'tis so, nor that I thinke it:<br>
<span class="tab">But good Sir, pardon me, I cannot drinke it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22his%20gossip%20cup%22">Harington</a> (1618), ep. 101; Book 2, ep. 5]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pure Massic wine thou does not only drink,<br>
But giv'st thy guests: though some this do not think.<br>
Four wives, 't is said, thy flagon caused to die;<br>
This I believe not, yet not thirst to try.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22pure%20massic%20wine%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With the best wines of France you entertain:<br>
Yet that your wine is bad the world complain:<br>
That you have lost four wives by it; but I<br>
Neither believe it, Sir, -- nor am adry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22best%20wines%20of%20france%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou Setian and Massic serv'st, Pamphilus, up:<br>
But rumor thy wines has accurst.<br>
A fourth time the wid'wer thou'rt hail'd by the cup:<br>
I neither believe it, nor -- thirst.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA337&printsec=frontcover&dq=pamphilus">Elphinston</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You always, it is true, Pamphilus, place Setine wine, or Massic, on table; but rumour says that they are not so pure as they ought to be. You are reported to have been four times made a widower by the aid of your goblet. I do not think this, or believe it, Pamphilus; but I am not thirsty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=You%20always%2C%20it%20is%20true%2C%20Pamphilus%2C%20place%20Setine%20wine%2C%20or%20Massic%2C%20on%20table%3B%20but%20rumour%20says%20that%20they%20are%20not%20so%20pure%20as%20they%20ought%20to%20be.%20You%20are%20reported%20to%20have%20been%20four%20times%20made%20a%20widower%20by%20the%20aid%20of%20your%20goblet.%20I%20do%20not%20think%20this%2C%20or%20believe%20it%2C%20Pamphilus%3B%20but%20I%20am%20not%20thirsty.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>On Massic and Setinian fares<br>
<span class="tab">The guest that banquets in your hall.<br>
Yet, Papilus, report declares<br>
<span class="tab">Them not so wholesome after all.<br>
'Tis said that by that wine-jar you<br>
<span class="tab">Four times became a widower. Thus<br>
I neither think, nor hold it true,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor am I thirsty, Papilus. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/42/mode/2up?q=massic">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You indeed put on your table always Setine or Massic, Papilus, but rumour says your wines are not so very good: you are said by means of this brand to have been made a widower four times. I don't think so, or believe it, Papilus, but -- I am not thirsty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=papilus">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Setine and Massic at your board abound,<br>
Yet some aver your wine is hardly sound; <br>
’Twas this relieved you of four wives they say; <br>
A libel -- but I will not dine to-day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22Setine+and+Massic%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "A Doubtful Vintage"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your butler prates of Setine and of Massic,<br>
But scandal gives it titles not so classic.<br>
"Four wives it's cost you." Gossip's never true,<br>
But I'm not thirsty -- much obliged to you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22iv.lxix%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), Ep. 202]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I see you do serve Massic wine<br>
<span class="tab">And even glorious Setian.<br>
But rumor has it that they smack<br>
<span class="tab">A bit of that Venetian<br>
Mixture that Lucretia served,<br>
<span class="tab">That four of your dear wives<br>
On tasting those expensive labels<br>
<span class="tab">Promptly lost their lives.<br>
It's all, I'm sure, a lot of talk,<br>
<span class="tab">Incredible, I think.<br>
But thank you, no; I've got to go.<br>
<span class="tab">Besides, I do not drink.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22i+see+you+do+serve%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You serve wine in the very best bottles, Papylus,<br>
but they say the wine is not exactly the best,<br>
they say you've become a widower four times now<br>
thanks to those very bottles.<br>
What a crock!<br>
You know I wouldn't take stock<br>
in a rumor like that, Papylus.<br>
It's just that I'm not thirsty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/190/mode/2up?q=papylus">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You always serve Setine or Massic, Papylus, but rumor refuses us such excellent wines. This flask is said to have made you a widower four times over. I don't think so or believe so, Papylus, but -- I'm not thirsty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=You%20always%20serve%20Setine%20or%20Massic%2C%20Papylus%2C%20but%20rumor%20refuses%20us%20such%20excellent%20wines.%20d%20This%20flask%20is%20said%20to%20have%20made%20you%20a%20widower%20four%20times%20over.%20I%20don%27t%20think%20so%20or%20believe%20so%2C%20Papylus%2C%20but%2DI%27rn%20not%20thirsty.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pappus, they say your wine is not good,<br>
it made you a widower four times.<br>
I don't believe that. You're a civilised man.<br>
Nevertheless, my thirst is suddenly gone.v
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/42/mode/2up?q=wine">Kennelly</a> (2008), "A Civilised Man"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You always serve such fine wine, Papylus,<br>
<span class="tab">but rumor makes us pass it up. They say<br>
this flask has widowed you four times. I don't<br>
<span class="tab">believe it -- but my thirst has gone away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/38/mode/2up?q=%22you+always+serve%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, little book! Slow up! Easy there! Steady!<br />
<span class="tab">We&#8217;ve reached the finishing post, yet you&#8217;re still ready<br />
To gallop uncontrollably on, to run<br />
<span class="tab">Past the last page, as if your job weren&#8217;t done.<br />
<span class="tab">(I&#8217;d have called it a day after page one!)<br />
My reader&#8217;s fed up now, about to drop,<br />
<span class="tab">And my copyist, who longs to shut up shop,<br />
<span class="tab">Agrees: &#8220;Whoa, little book! Enough! Full stop!&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Ohe, iam satis est, ohe, libelle,<br />
Iam pervenimus usque ad umbilicos.<br />
Tu procedere adhuc et ire quaeris,<br />
Nec summa potes in schida teneri,<br />
5Sic tamquam tibi res peracta non sit,<br />
Quae prima quoque pagina peracta est.<br />
Iam lector queriturque deficitque,<br />
Iam librarius hoc et ipse dicit<br />
&#8220;Ohe, iam satis est, ohe, libelle.&#8221;]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  4, epigram  89 (4.89) (AD 89) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22whoa+little+book%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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The last epigram in Book 4.<br><br> 

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:4.89">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Oh, 't is enough, it is enough, my book;<br>
<span class="tab">Upon the utmost page thou now dost look.<br>
Would'st thou swell further yet? yet larger be?<br>
<span class="tab">Not leave thy paragraphs and margins free?<br>
As if to some known period thou didst tend,<br>
<span class="tab">When ev'ry epigram may be thy end.<br>
Reader and printer tired, no more can brook;<br>
<span class="tab">'T is time thyself pronounce the last line strook.<br>
<span class="tab">Oh, 't is enough, oh, 't is enough, my book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22enough%20my%20book%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Enough, enough! little book! we have already reached the end of the parchment. You would still go on, and add to your bulk, and cannot confine yourself within due limits; just as if you had not done enough, when you had completed the first page. The reader is now quite querulous, and out of patience; the <i>librarius</i> himself now cries out, "Enough, enough, little book."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book04.htm#:~:text=Enough%2C%20enough!%20little,enough%2C%20little%20book.%22">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ho, there! Ho, there! 'tis now enough, my little book. We have now come to the very end: you still want to go on further and continue, and cannot be held in even in your last strip, just as if your task was not finished -- which was finished, too, on the first page! Already my reader is grumbling and giving in; already even my scribe says: "Ho, there! Ho, there! 'tis enough now, little book."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ho%20there%20ho%20there%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hold, little book, enough, enough!<br>
<span class="tab">Here is the end of the scroll and thee; <br>
Stay thy course ere the path grow rough, <br>
<span class="tab">Keep thy bounds for thou art not free, <br>
<span class="tab">Many thy sheets, though one should be <br>
Ample space for thy sorry stuff.<br>
Hold, little book, enough, enough!<br>
<span class="tab">Here is the end of the scroll and thee. <br>
Wearied readers are harsh and gruff,<br>
<span class="tab">Now are they tired of thee and me; <br>
Soon thou shalt meet a rude rebuff,<br>
<span class="tab">List to the worn-out scrivener’s plea;<br>
‘Hold, little book, enough, enough!’<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/134/mode/2up?q=%22lxxxix+finis%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Finis"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We've filled the scroll; "Hold, hold, enough!" I say,<br>
<span class="tab">But still you want to plod your inky way.<br>
Heighho! 'tis finis, and the gap to fill<br>
<span class="tab">One page was plenty, yet you're restless still.<br>
The reader flags and grumbles at the stuff,<br>
<span class="tab">And now the very penman cries "Enough."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22filled%20the%20scroll%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), No. 214]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Hold it, book, that's enough!<br>
We've come to the knob at the end of the roll.<br>
You object? And want to keep going right on<br>
And can't sit still cooped up in the last column<br>
on the last leaf? As though for you the work wasn't done<br>
that was done when the first page was over and gone.<br>
Your reader is tired, he's getting gruff,<br>
<span class="tab">the bookseller is losing interest in your stuff:<br>
<span class="tab">Hold it, book, that's enough!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22hold+it+book%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Whoa, little book! Slow up! Easy there! Steady!<br>
<span class="tab">We've reached the finishing post, yet you're still ready<br>
To gallop uncontrollably on, to run<br>
<span class="tab">Past the last page, as if your job weren't done.<br>
<span class="tab">(I'd have called it a day after page one!)<br>
My reader's fed up now, about to drop,<br>
<span class="tab">And my copyist, who longs to shut up shop,<br>
<span class="tab">Agrees: "Whoa, little book! Enough! Full stop!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=whoa">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Whoa, there's enough, whoa now, little book! We have got to the bosses. But you want to go on further and keep going, there's no holding you at the final sheet, as though you had not finished the business which was finished even on page one. Already the reader grows querulous and weary, already the very copyist says "Whoa, there's enough, whoa now, little book!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html#:~:text=Whoa%2C%20there%27s%20enough,now%2C%20little%20book!%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hey, you're stuffed, little book, give it a rest.<br>
<span class="tab">You've reached the end-papers and still have zest!<br>
What on earth makes you yet want to let go,<br>
<span class="tab">When "misfire" our verse reeked from the get-go?<br>
Zip it, my pages, let's call a "time out";<br>
<span class="tab">We've hit the back cover -- and still you'd spout?<br>
Look, the reader's pissed and quite unimpressed;<br>
<span class="tab">Even our publisher calls you a pest:<br>
<span class="tab">"Hey, you're stuffed, little book, give it a rest!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=Hey%2C%20you%27re%20stuffed,it%20a%20rest!%22">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Slow down, my book, don't race beyond the goal<br>
<span class="tab">Or keep on trotting like a frisky foal.<br>
You've used up all the paper in this roll.<br>
<span class="tab">Continuing, you'd make me lose control.<br>
The reader says you might have gone too far,<br>
<span class="tab">My scribe says, "Hold your horses where they are."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=4.89">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet soft, my books, no haste, nor hurry fate; If fame must wait on death, then let it wait. [Vos tamen o nostri ne festinate libelli: Si post fata venit gloria, non propero.] Compare to Epigram 1.25. &#8220;To Regulus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: But haste not you (my Bookes) for Fame, to whom Tis soone [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet soft, my books, no haste, nor hurry fate;<br />
If fame must wait on death, then let it wait.</p>
<p><em>[Vos tamen o nostri ne festinate libelli:<br />
Si post fata venit gloria, non propero.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  10 (5.10.11-12) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22yet+soft+my+books%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Compare to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/37808/">Epigram 1.25</a>.<br><br>

"To Regulus."  (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D5%3Apoem%3D10#:~:text=Vos%20tamen%20o%20nostri%20ne%20festinate%20libelli%3A%0ASi%20post%20fata%20venit%20gloria%2C%20non%20propero.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>But haste not you (my Bookes) for Fame, to whom<br>
Tis soone enough if after death it come.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.10?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=But%20haste%20not,death%20it%20come.">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Let others to the Printing Presse run fast.<br>
Since after death comes glory, <i>Ile not haste.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22printing+presse%22">Herrick</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O my small books, ne'er hasten to go out:<br>
If praise come after death, I'll not go on.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22if%20praise%20come%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yet you (my Bookes!) hast not to much, I pray:<br>
If fame come not till after death, I'll stay.<br>
[British Library <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22yet+you+my+bookes%22">MS Add. 27343</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With patience then, my Muse, to glory hy:<br>
If after death she come, I shall not dy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22with%20patience%20then%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 3.62]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do not, however, you little books of mine, be in haste for fame: <br>
if glory comes only after death, I am in no hurry for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=Do%20not%2C%20however%2C%20you%20little%20books%20of%20mine%2C%20be%20in%20haste%20for%20fame%3A%20if%20glory%20comes%20only%20after%20death%2C%20I%20am%20in%20no%20hurry%20for%20it.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I gain fame after my death, I am content to wait.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrammataselec00martuoft/page/142/mode/2up?q=%22fame++after++my++dt-ath%22">Paley/Stone</a> (1890), ep. 221]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Therefore, little books of mine,<br>
Haste not; if glory comes but after death,<br>
I'll wait awhile for glory.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22haste%20not%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Pray, my impatient Muse, don't worry.<br>
If death's due first, I'm in no hurry.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22my%20impatient%20muse%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 221]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Impatient little books of verse<br>
For the plaudits of the universe,<br>
If fame comes only after death,<br>
Let's pause and rest, and catch our breath.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/52/mode/2up?q=%22impatient+little%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>But there's no cause, my little books, to worry:<br>
If glory must be posthumous, why hurry?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22books+to+worry%22">Michie</a> (1972)] </blockquote><br>



<blockquote>So, little books, let's not rush to our fate.<br>
Since death comes before glory, let's be late.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22so+little+books%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>So be calm, my Muse -- no need to rush or fret:<br>
If death must precede fame, I'll not be famous yet.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I must die to get my fame,<br>
I gladly will put off the same.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22I%20must%20die%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Then be content, my books, to be slow paced;<br>
Death before glory means -- no need for haste.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1">Pitt-Kethley</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But you, my little books, don’t hurry: <br>
if glory comes only after death, I will not rush.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2022/11/17/the-shock-of-the-new/#:~:text=But%20you%2C%20my%20little%20books%2C%20don%E2%80%99t%20hurry%3A%20if%20glory%20comes%20only%20after%20death%2C%20I%20will%20not%20rush.">Robinson</a> (2022)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If glory comes after death, I hurry not.<br>
[tr. Rush]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[To you and me Life is not full; we see The good days fly And, ah, how grievously Their sum doth mount, Set all to our account; Why dally we Who know what life should be? [Nunc vivit necuter sibi, bonosque Soles effugere atque abire sentit, Qui nobis pereunt et inputantur. Quisquam vivere cum sciat, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To you and me<br />
<span class="tab">Life is not full; we see<br />
The good days fly<br />
<span class="tab">And, ah, how grievously<br />
Their sum doth mount,<br />
<span class="tab">Set all to our account;<br />
Why dally we<br />
<span class="tab">Who know what life should be?</p>
<p><em>[Nunc vivit necuter sibi, bonosque<br />
Soles effugere atque abire sentit,<br />
Qui nobis pereunt et inputantur.<br />
Quisquam vivere cum sciat, moratur?]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  20 (5.20.11-14) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
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The phrase <em>pereunt et imputantur</em> (they [the days] pass by, and are put to our account) is often found on sundials.<br><br>

"To Julius Martialis." (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D5%3Apoem%3D20#:~:text=Nunc%20vivit%20necuter%20sibi%2C%20bonosque">Source (Latin)</a>).<br><br> 

Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Now, to himself, alas! Does neither live,<br>
<span class="tab">But sees good suns, of which we are to give<br>
A strict account, set, and march quick away:<br>
<span class="tab">Know a man how to live, and does he stay?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA231&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22now%20to%20himself%22">Cowley</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>We behold the good suns shine, and pass away; lost are they for ever, yet, nevertheless, they are counted in our reckoning. Is it possible that anyone who knows how to live delays to live accordingly?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/84/mode/2up?q=%22lib+v%2C+ep+xxi%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, #14; identified as ep. 21]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>As it is, neither of us lives for himself, but sees his good days flee from him and vanish; days which are ever being lost to us, and set down to our account. Should any one, then, delay to live, when he knows how?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=As%20it%20is%2C%20neither%20of%20us%20lives%20for%20himself%2C%20but%20sees%20his%20good%20days%20flee%20from%20him%20and%20vanish%3B%20days%20which%20are%20ever%20being%20lost%20to%20us%2C%20and%20set%20down%20to%20our%20account.%20Should%20any%20one%2C%20then%2C%20delay%20to%20live%2C%20when%20he%20knows%20how%3F">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Now neither lives unto himself, alas!<br>
<span class="tab">And the good suns we see, that flash and pass<br>
And perish; and the bell that knells them cries,<br>
<span class="tab">"Another gone: O when will ye arise?"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/258/mode/2up?q=%22now+neither+lives+unto%22">Stevenson</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Today neither lives for himself, and he feels the good days are flitting and passing away, our days that perish and are cored to our account. Does any man, when he knows how to live, delay?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22neither%20lives%20for%20himself%22&pg=PA311&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Now neither of us truly lives at all.<br>
Suns rise and set and swell the reckoning. Say,<br>
Does life mean anything? Then live today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22set%20and%20swell%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #230, "To His Cousin"]</blockquote><br>

 




<blockquote>Now neither lives his life, but he<br>
<span class="tab">Marks precious days that pass and flee.<br>
These days are lost, but their amount<br>
<span class="tab">Is surely set to our account.<br>
Knowledge the clue to life can give;<br>
<span class="tab">Then wherefore hesitate to live?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Now%20neither%20lives,hesitate%20to%20live%3F">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But as things are now, neither one of us<br>
<span class="tab">Lives for himself, while ever glorious<br>
Days slip by unlived, never to come<br>
<span class="tab">Again, deducted always from that sum<br>
Allotted us. Why then do we not live,<br>
<span class="tab">We who know the joys that life can give?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22neither+one+of+us%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>But as it is, we, both and each,<br>
<span class="tab">Miss the rich life within our reach,<br>
We watch the good sun speed and set<br>
<span class="tab">And the lost day goes down as debt.<br>
Would any man, if he knew how<br>
<span class="tab">To live, not do it here and now?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/68/mode/2up?q=%22both+and+each%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now, twin lives are not our own.<br>
Our good suns flee & disappear,<br>
Debited, as they die, to us.<br>
Who hesitates that's learned to live?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22twin%20lives%22">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>We toil too much for others. Days<br>
flicker by and then are billed,<br>
one by one, to our accounts. Since we know<br>
how, let's start really living now.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/140/mode/2up?q=%22toil+too+much%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>We feel our good days slip away and leave us; they are wasted, and put to our account. Does any man, knowing the way to live, defer it?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Now neither lives<br>
his life. We feel our good days flee,<br>
Numbered and spent. Knowing the way<br>
<span class="tab">to live, why should a man delay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22good+days+flee%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>As it is now, neither of us lives for his own benefit, each of us can feel his best days slipping away and leaving us behind. They're gone, they've been debited from our account. What kind of person knows how to live, but keeps putting it off?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=neither%20of%20us%20lives">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[My parents in the underworld! I send This servant girl &#8212; take care and gently tend. Conduct her past the terrifying shade. Keep her of circling horrors unafraid, For she, alas, was only six days shy Of six years when too soon she came to die. Protect her as she plays her childhood games, And [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents in the underworld! I send<br />
<span class="tab">This servant girl &#8212; take care and gently tend.<br />
Conduct her past the terrifying shade.<br />
<span class="tab">Keep her of circling horrors unafraid,<br />
For she, alas, was only six days shy<br />
<span class="tab">Of six years when too soon she came to die.<br />
Protect her as she plays her childhood games,<br />
<span class="tab">And lisps, as shyly she was wont, our names.<br />
Earth, sadly mounded on this gravesite new,<br />
<span class="tab">Press lightly on her, as she did on you.</p>
<p><em>[Hanc tibi, Fronto pater, genetrix Flaccilla, puellam<br />
Oscula commendo deliciasque meas,<br />
Parvula ne nigras horrescat Erotion umbras<br />
Oraque Tartarei prodigiosa canis.<br />
Impletura fuit sextae modo frigora brumae,<br />
Vixisset totidem ni minus illa dies.<br />
Inter tam veteres ludat lasciva patronos<br />
Et nomen blaeso garriat ore meum.<br />
Mollia non rigidus caespes tegat ossa nec illi,<br />
Terra, gravis fueris: non fuit illa tibi.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  34 (5.34) (AD 90) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22My%20parents%20in%20the%20underworld%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Erotion was a slave child in Martial's household, per other epigrams. The identity of Fronto and Flaccilla -- whether they are the names of Martial's parents or Erotion's -- is ambiguous in the <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22fronto+pater%22">Original Latin</a>, and a subject of debate. See also <a href="https://wist.info/martial/63833/">10.61</a>.<br><br>

Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Ye parents Fronto and Flaccilla here,<br>
<span class="tab">To you I do commend my girl, my dear,<br>
Lest pale Erotion tremble at the shades,<br>
<span class="tab">And the foul dog of hell's prodigious heads.<br>
Her age fulfilling just six winters was,<br>
<span class="tab">Had she but known so many days to pass.<br>
'Mongst you, old patrons, may she sport and play,<br>
<span class="tab">And with her lisping tongue my name oft say.<br>
May the smooth turf her soft bones hide, and be,<br>
<span class="tab">O earth, as light to her as she to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ye%20parents%20fronto%22&pg=PA239&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fronto, to thee, to thee, Flaccilla mild,<br>
<span class="tab">My darling I commend, your lively child.<br>
Oh! may no sable shades make her more pale,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor the Tartarean dog the Love assail.<br>
Six times the rig'rous solstice had the run,<br>
<span class="tab">Has she survey'd six times another sun.<br>
Mid her old patrons, may the prattler play;<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name, as in the realms of day.<br>
To her soft bones no turf oppressive be:<br>
<span class="tab">O earth lie light on her, who lay so light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA381&printsec=frontcover">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 9, ep. 18]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O my father, Fronto! and my mother, Flacilla! I commend to you, in the realm below, this damsel, my delight and the object of my kisses, lest Erotion be terrified at the dark shades, and at the enormous mouth of the dog of Tartarus. She would have completed her sixth winter if she had lived six days longer. May she continue her sportive ways under your reverend patronage, and may she garrulously stammer forth my name! May the turf lie lightly on her delicate bones; you ought not, O earth, to be heavy to her; she was not so to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22this+damsel%2C+my+delight%22">Amos</a> (1858) ep. 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, O Fronto my father, and to you, O Flaccilla my mother, I commend this child, the little Erotion, my joy and my delight, that she may not be terrified at the dark shades and at the monstrous mouth of the dog of Tartarus. She would just have passed the cold of a sixth winter, had she lived but six days longer. Between protectors so venerable may she sport and play, and with lisping speech babble my name. Let no rude turf cover her tender bones, and press not heavy on her, O earth; she pressed but lightly on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=To%20you%2C%20O,lightly%20on%20you.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you -- dun spectres to forefend<br>
And yon Tartarean monster dread -- <br>
This little maiden I commend,<br>
<span class="tab">Dead parents of my darling dead!<br>
Had only my Erotion's span<br>
While just so many days were told,<br>
Been lengthened out to dwell with man,<br>
<span class="tab">She had been then six winters old.<br>
Still sportive may she spend her days,<br>
And lisp my name with prattling tongue;<br>
Nor chide her little wanton ways,<br>
<span class="tab">Mid friends so old, and she so young.<br>
Soft be the turf that shrouds her bed,<br>
For delicate and soft was she.<br>
And, Earth, lie lightly o'er her head,<br>
<span class="tab">For light the steps she laid on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22dun+spectres%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Mother and sire, to you do I commend<br>
<span class="tab">Tiny Erotion, who must now descend,<br>
A child, among the shadows, and appear<br>
<span class="tab">Before hell's bandog and hell's gondolier.<br>
Of six hoar winters she had felt the cold,<br>
<span class="tab">But lacked six days of being six years old.<br>
Now she must come, all playful, to that place<br>
<span class="tab">Where the great ancients sit with reverend face;<br>
Now lisping, as she used, of whence she came,<br>
<span class="tab">Perchance she names and stumbles at my name.<br>
O'er these so fragile bones, let there be laid<br>
<span class="tab">A plaything for a turf; and for that maid<br>
That ran so lightly footed in her mirth<br>
<span class="tab">Upon thy breast -- lie lightly, mother earth!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Poems,_by_Robert_Louis_Stevenson,_hitherto_unpublished/Here_lies_Erotion">Stevenson</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To thee, father Fronto, to thee, mother Flacilla, commend this maid, my sweetheart and my darling, that tiny Erotion may not shudder at the dark shades and the Tartarean hound's stupendous jaws. She would have completed only her sixth cold winter had she not lived as many days too few. Beside protectors so aged let her lightly play, and prattle my name with lisping tongue. And let not hard clods cover her tender bones, nor be though heavy upon her, O earth: she was not so to thee!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22father%20fronto%22&pg=PA321&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou Mother dear and thou my Father's shade,<br>
<span class="tab">To you I now commit the gentle maid,<br>
Erotion, my little love, my sweet;<br>
<span class="tab">Let not her shuddering spirit fear to meet<br>
The ghosts, but soothe her lest she be afraid.<br>
<span class="tab">How should a baby heart be undismayed<br>
To pass the lair where Cerberus is laid?<br>
<span class="tab">The little six-year maiden gently greet.<br>
Dear reverend spirits, give her kindly aid<br>
<span class="tab">And let her play in some Elysian glade,<br>
<span class="tab">Lisping my name sometimes -- and, I entreat<br>
Lie on her softly, kind earth; her feet,<br>
<span class="tab">Such tiny feet, on thee were lightly laid.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22Erotion%2C+my+little+love%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Flaccilla, Fronto, take her as I write,<br>
<span class="tab">My precious darling and my soul's delight,<br>
Let not Erotion fear the shades around<br>
<span class="tab">And the fell jaws of the Tartarean hound.<br>
Had she but lived till six more days were told,<br>
<span class="tab">She had survived six winters and their cold.<br>
There let her play amidst our fellowship<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name with dainty stammering lip.<br>
Her gentle head, Earth, with soft mosses dress,<br>
<span class="tab">And as her footstep light be thy caress.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22flaccilla,%20fronto,%20take%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #240] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Mother Flaccilla, Fronto sire that's gone,<br>
<span class="tab">This darling pet of mine, Erotion,<br>
I pray ye greet, that nor the Land of Shade<br>
<span class="tab">Nor Hell-hound's maw shall fright my little maid.<br>
Full six chill winters would the child have seen<br>
<span class="tab">Had her life only six days longer been.<br>
Sweet child, with our lost friends to guard thee, play,<br>
<span class="tab">And lisp my name in thine own prattling way.<br>
Soft be the turf that shrouds her! Tenderly<br>
<span class="tab">Rest on her, earth, for she trod light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Mother%20Flaccilla%2C%20Fronto,light%20on%20thee.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To thee, my father, and to thee, my mother,<br>
<span class="tab">I recommend this darling little maid.<br>
Shield her from the dreadful hound of Hades,<br>
<span class="tab">Shield her from the dark infernal shades.<br>
She would have known the chill of six cold winters<br>
<span class="tab">Had she lived only six more little days.<br>
Amid such old defenders let her frolic<br>
<span class="tab">And babble my name as was her childish way.<br>
Lie lightly on her, earth, O lie not heavy<br>
<span class="tab">Upon her bones, for she was light on thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22to+thee+my+father%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Fronto, father, and mother Flaccilla,<br>
hold my darling Erotion firm in your memory:<br>
Don't let her diminutive soul shiver<br>
at the dusky shades of Hell<br>
or flinch at the monstrous mouth<br>
of the watchdog Tartarus.<br>
Had she lived six days longer,<br>
she would have seen her sixth winter solstice.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">She was always happy,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">always at ease<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">in the company of older people.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">I hope she will still, down there,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">be gaily lisping my name, in her afterlife.<br>
Oh green earth, rest lightly on her! Do not<br>
bear down too hard on her there, who was<br>
never a trouble or burden to you, here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/118/mode/2up?q=erotion">Bovie</a> (1970), "Erotion (1)"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, my parents, I send on<br>
<span class="tab">This little girl Erotion,<br>
The slave I loved, that by your side<br>
<span class="tab">Her ghost need not be terrified<br>
Of the pitch darkness underground<br>
<span class="tab">Or the great jaws of Hades' hound.<br>
This winter she would have completed<br>
<span class="tab">Her sixth year had she not been cheated<br>
By just six days. Lisping my name,<br>
<span class="tab">May she continue the sweet game<br>
Of childhood happily down there<br>
<span class="tab">In two such good, old spirits' care.<br>
Lie lightly on her, turf and dew;<br>
<span class="tab">She put so little weight on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/70/mode/2up?q=erotion">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, the shades of my begetters, Fronto <br>
and Flacilla, where you lie in sweet <br>
decay, I commend with love the body <br>
of my darling child Erotion.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">A home-<br>
bred slave yet tender as a golden dormouse, <br>
rarer than the Phoenix, whiter than <br>
an unsmudged lily --<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">guide her spirit home <br>
so she may look for lights in Tartarus <br>
and miss the snapping jaws of hell-hound <br>
Cerberus. She’d have lived six shivering winters <br>
if she hadn’t died that many days before <br>
the anniversary.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Now let her play<br>
light-heartedly in the ever-darkened house <br>
beside such sure protectors.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">May my name<br>
be burbling on her tongue, the childish gift <br>
of sorrow spent on age.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">And monumental earth, <br>
draw back eternal weight from her <br>
small bones;<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">don’t be severe and tread <br>
on her with gravity: she never did on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/336/mode/2up?q=%22shades+of+my+begetters%22">Porter</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote><em>Fronto</em>, Father, <em>Flacilla</em>, Mother, extend <br>
your protection from the Stygian shadows. <br>
The small <em>Erotion</em> (my household <em>Iris)</em> <br>
has changed my house for yours. See that the hell-<br>
hound's horrid jaws don't scare her, who was no<br> 
more than six years old (less six days) on the <br>
Winter day she died. She'll play beside you <br>
gossiping about me in child's language. <br>
Weigh lightly on her small bones, gentle earth, <br>
as she, when living, lightly trod on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=fronto%20father">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To you, father Fronto and mother Flaccilla, I commend this girl, my pet and darling. Little Erotion must not be frightened by the dark shades and the monstrous mouths of Tartarus' hound. She was due to complete the chills of a sixth midwinter, no more, if she had not lived that many days too few. Let her now play and frolic with her old patrons and lispingly chatter my name. Not hard be the turf that covers her soft bones, be not heavy upon her, earth; she was not heavy upon you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To your shades Fronto, and Flaccilla, this child<br>
I commend: she was my sweet and my delight.<br>
Little Erotion shall not fear the darkened shades<br>
nor the vast mouths of the Tartarean hound.<br>
She’d have completed her sixth chill winter,<br>
if she’d not lived a mere six days too few.<br>
Now let her frisk and play among old friends<br>
now let her chatter, and so lisp my name.<br>
And let the soft turf cover her brittle bones:<br>
earth, lie lightly on her: she lay lightly on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798960:~:text=To%20your%20shades,lightly%20on%20you.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, my parents Fronto and Flaccilla,<br>
I commend this girl, my darling and delight,<br>
Don't let the dark shades and the huge-mouthed hellhound<br>
<span class="tab">fill my small Erotion with fright.<br>
She would have known the chill of six midwinters<br>
had she survived by just as many days.<br>
Now let her lisping mouth prattle my name<br>
<span class="tab">to her old patrons, and she romps and plays.<br>
Let no hard turf hide her soft bones. Earth, do<br>
<span class="tab">not press her harshly; she was light on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22Fronto+and+Flaccilla%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

 


<blockquote>This girl, father Fronto and mother Flaccilla, I commit to your care, so that little Erotion, my pet and darling, may not tremble at the dark shades and at the monstrous mouths of the hound of Tartarus. She would have just seen out the frosts of her sixth midwinter, had her life not fallen that many days short. I hope she plays and skips now in her former patrons' keeping; I hope her hare-lip mumbles my name. Please let the turf that covers her bones not be hard, and, earth, be not heavy upon her, she was no weight on you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22father%20fronto%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I commend you this slave girl, father Fronto, mother Flaccilla, as she was my delight and the object of my kisses. May little Erotion not fear the dark shades nor the vast mouths of the Tartarean dog. She would have completed her sixth cold winter if she'd not lived as many days too few. Now, let her play amid old friends, let her chatter and lisp my name. May the soft turf cover her brittle bones: earth, lie lightly on her, as she was not heavy on you.<br>
[<a href="http://blogumromanum.blogspot.com/2012/03/martial-epigram-5-34-translation.html#:~:text=I%20commend,on%20you">Source</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>To you, my departed parents, dear mother and father,<br>
<span class="tab">I commend my little lost angel, Erotion, love’s daughter.<br>
She fell a mere six days short of outliving her sixth frigid winter.<br>
<span class="tab">Protect her now, I pray, should the chilling dark shades appear;<br>
muzzle hell’s three-headed hound, lest her heart be dismayed!<br>
<span class="tab">Lead her to romp in some sunny Elysian glade,<br>
her devoted patrons. Watch her play childish games<br>
<span class="tab">as she excitedly babbles and lisps my name.<br>
Let no hard turf smother her softening bones; and do<br>
<span class="tab">rest lightly upon her, earth, she was surely no burden to you!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/14944085-Martial-translations-by-Michael-R.-Burch#:~:text=To%20you%2C%20my%20departed%20parents%2C%20dear%20mother%20and%20father">Burch</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<description><![CDATA[A thief can rifle any till, A fire with ash your home can fill, A creditor calls in your debt. Bad harvest does your farm upset, An impish mistress robs your dwelling, Storm shatters ships with water swelling. But gifts to friends your friendships save. You keep thus always what you gave. [Callidus effracta nummos [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thief can rifle any till,<br />
<span class="tab">A fire with ash your home can fill,<br />
A creditor calls in your debt.<br />
<span class="tab">Bad harvest does your farm upset,<br />
An impish mistress robs your dwelling,<br />
<span class="tab">Storm shatters ships with water swelling.<br />
But gifts to friends your friendships save.<br />
<span class="tab">You keep thus always what you gave.</p>
<p><em>[Callidus effracta nummos fur auferet arca,<br />
Prosternet patrios impia flamma lares:<br />
Debitor usuram pariter sortemque negabit,<br />
Non reddet sterilis semina iacta seges:<br />
Dispensatorem fallax spoliabit amica,<br />
Mercibus extructas obruet unda rates.<br />
Extra fortunam est, quidquid donatur amicis:<br />
Quas dederis, solas semper habebis opes.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  42 (5.42) (AD 90) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT69&printsec=frontcover&bsq=5.42" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.42">Source(Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>The crafty thefe from battered chest, <br>
<span class="tab">doth filch thy coine awaie:<br>
The debter nor the interest,<br>
<span class="tab">nor principall will pay.<br>
The fearefull flame destroies the goods,<br>
<span class="tab">and letteth nought remaine:<br>
The barren ground for seede recevd,<br>
<span class="tab">restoreth naught again.<br>
The subtle harlot naked strips<br>
<span class="tab">her lover to the skin:<br>
If thou commit thy self to seas,<br>
<span class="tab">great danger art thou in.<br>
Not that thou gevest to thy frend,<br>
<span class="tab">can fortune take away:<br>
That onely that thou givst thy friend,<br>
<span class="tab">thou shalt posses for ay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22crafty+thefe%22">Kendall</a> (1577)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Thieves may thy Coffers breake, steale coyne or plate;<br>
<span class="tab">Thy house a sudden fire may ruinate.<br>
Debtors may Use, and Principall deny,<br>
<span class="tab">And dead thy seedes in barren Grounds may lye:<br>
Thy Steward may be cheated by a Whore;<br>
<span class="tab">Thy Merchandise the Ocean may devour.<br>
But what thou giv'st thy friends, from chance is free.<br>
<span class="tab">Thy gifts alone shall thine for ever be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.13?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Some felon-hand may steal thy gold away;<br>
<span class="tab">Or flames destructive on thy mansion prey.<br>
The fraudful debtor may thy loan deny;<br>
<span class="tab">Or blasted fields no more their fruits supply.<br>
The am'rous steward to adorn his dear,<br>
<span class="tab">With spoils may deck her from thy plunder'd year.<br>
Thy freighted vessels, ere the port they gain,<br>
<span class="tab">O'erwhelm'd by storms may sink beneath the main:<br>
But what thou giv'st a friend for friendship's sake,<br>
<span class="tab">Is the sole wealth which fortune n'er can take.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/108/mode/2up?q=%22some+felon-hand%22">Melmoth</a> (c. 1750)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thieves may break locks, and with your cash retire;<br>
<span class="tab">Your ancient seat may be consumed by fire;<br>
Debtors refuse to pay you what they owe;<br>
<span class="tab">Or your ungrateful field the seed you sow;<br>
You may be plundered by a jilting whore;<br>
<span class="tab">Your ships may sink at sea with all their store:<br>
Who gives to friends, so much from Fate secures;<br>
<span class="tab">That is the only wealth for ever yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22thieves%20may%20break%20locks%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 43]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The thief shall burst thy box, and slyly go:<br>
<span class="tab">The impious flame shall lay thy <i>Lares</i> low.<br>
Thy dettor shall deny both use and sum:<br>
<span class="tab">Thy seed deposited may never come.<br>
A faithless female shall they steward spoil:<br>
<span class="tab">They ships are swallow'd, while thy billow boil.<br>
Whate'er is bountied, quit vain fortune's road:<br>
<span class="tab">Thine is alone the wealth thou has bestow'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA244&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20thief%20shall%20burst%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 82]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A crafty thief may purloin money from a chest;<br>
an impious flame may destroy paternal <i>Lares;</i><br>
a debtor may deny both principal and interest;<br>
land may not yield crops in return for the seed scattered upon it;<br>
frauds may be practices on a steward entrusted with  your household purse;<br>
the sea may overwhelm ships laden with merchandise.<br>
Whatever is given to friends is beyond the reach of Fortune;<br>
the wealth you have bestowed is the only wealth you can keep.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22a+crafty+thief%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 77]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A cunning thief may burst open your coffers, and steal your coin; <br>
an impious fire may lay waste your ancestral home; <br>
your debtor may refuse you both principal and interest;<br> 
your corn-field may prove barren, and not repay the seed you have scattered upon it; <br>
a crafty mistress may rob your steward; <br>
the waves may engulf your ships laden with merchandise.<br> 
But what is bestowed on your friends is beyond the reach of fortune; <br>
the riches you give away are the only riches you will possess for ever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=A%20cunning%20thief,possess%20for%20ever.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>A present to a friend's beyond the reach of fortune:<br>
That wealth alone you always will possess<br>
Which you have given away.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22beyond%20the%20reach%20of%20fortune%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>A cunning thief will break your money-box and carry off your coin,<br>
cruel fire will lay low your ancestral home;<br>
your debtor will repudiate interest alike and principal,<br>
your sterile crop will not return you the seed you have sown;<br>
a false mistress will despoil your treasurer,<br>
the wave will overwhelm your ships stored with merchandise.<br>
Beyond Fortune's power is any gift made to your friends;<br>
only wealth bestowed will you possess always.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cunning%20thief%22&pg=PR3&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some thief may steal your wealth away,<br>
Although by massive walls surrounded;<br>
Or ruthless fire in ashes lay<br>
<span class="tab">The ancient home your fathers founded;<br>
A debtor may withhold your dues,<br>
Deny perhaps a debt is owing,<br>
Or sullen ploughlands may refuse<br>
<span class="tab">To yield a harvest to your sowing.<br>
A cunning trollop of the town<br>
May make your agent rob his master,<br>
Or waters of the ocean drown<br>
<span class="tab">Your goods and ship in one disaster.<br>
But give to friends whate'er you may,<br>
'Tis safe from fortune's worst endeavor:<br>
The riches that you give away,<br>
<span class="tab">These only shall be yours for ever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/150/mode/2up?q=%22some+thief+may+steal%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Some cunning burglar will abstract your plate,<br>
<span class="tab">A godless fire your roof will devastate,<br>
A debtor steal both interest and loan,<br>
<span class="tab">A barren field will turn your seed to stone.<br>
A wily wench will strip your steward bare,<br>
<span class="tab">The greedy sea engulf your galleon's ware.<br>
Give to a friend and fortune is checkmated;<br>
<span class="tab">Such wealth will ever as your own be rated.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22cunning%20burglar%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #247]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>A cunning thief may rob your money-chest,<br>
And cruel fire lay low an ancient home;<br>
Debtors may keep both loan and interest;<br>
<span class="tab">Good seed may fruitless rot in barren loam.<br>
A guileful mistress may your agent cheat,<br>
And waves engulf your laden argosies;<br>
But boons to friends can fortune's slings defeat:<br>
<span class="tab">The wealth you give away will never cease.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=A%20cunning%20thief,will%20never%20cease.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A cunning thief will break open your coffer and carry off your money, ruthless fire will lay low your family horne, your debtor will repudiate interest and principal alike, your barren fields will not return the scattered seed, a tricky mistress will rob your steward, the wave ,will overwhelm your ships piled high with merchandise: hut whatever is given to friends is beyond the grasp of Fortune. Only the wealth you give away will always be yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Deft thieves can break your locks and carry off your savings,<br>
fire consume your home,<br>
debtors default on principal and interest,<br>
failed crops return not even the seed you'd sown,<br>
cheating women run up your charge accounts,<br>
storm overwhelm ships freighted with all your goods.<br>
Fortune can't take away what you give your friends: <br>
that wealth stays yours forever.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22deft%20thieves%22">Powell</a> (c. 2000)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The only wealth that's yours forever<br>
is the wealth you give away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/18/mode/2up?q=wealth">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Forever"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sly thieves will smash your coffer and steal your cash;<br>
impious flames will wreck your family home;<br>
your debtor won't repay your loan or interest;<br>
<span class="tab">your barren fields will yield less than you've sown;<br>
a crafty mistress will despoil your steward;<br>
a wave will swamp your ships piled high with stores.<br>
But what you give to friends is safe from Fortune:<br>
<span class="tab">only the wealth you give away is yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/44/mode/2up?q=%22smash+your+coffer%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

 

<blockquote>Savings -- the cunning thief will crack your safe and steal them;<br>
ancestral home -- the fires don't care, they'll trash it;<br>
the guy who owes you money -- won't pay the interest, won't pay at all.<br>
Your field -- it's barren, sow seed and you'll get no return;<br>
your girlfriend -- she'll con your accountant and leave you penniless;<br>
your shipping line -- the waves will swamp your stacks of cargo.<br>
But what you give to friends is out of fortune's reach.<br>
The wealth you give away is the only wealth you'll never lose.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20cunning%20thief%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  52 (5.52) (AD 90)  [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;Self-Praise&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I forget your many favours? Nay. Why don’t I mention them? Because you do. If I begin, some one is sure to say &#8220;Your patron told me all he did for you&#8221;; Friend there are tasks cannot be done by two; Shall this be yours or mine? for I submit However great a gift, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I forget your many favours? Nay.<br />
<span class="tab">Why don’t I mention them? Because you do.<br />
If I begin, some one is sure to say<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Your patron told me all he did for you&#8221;;<br />
Friend there are tasks cannot be done by two;<br />
<span class="tab">Shall this be yours or mine? for I submit<br />
However great a gift, there nothing due<br />
<span class="tab">To any giver who shall boast of it.</p>
<p><em>[Quae mihi praestiteris memini semperque tenebo.<br />
Cur igitur taceo, Postume? Tu loqueris.<br />
Incipio quotiens alicui tua dona referre,<br />
Protinus exclamat &#8216;Dixerat ipse mihi.&#8217;<br />
Non belle quaedam faciunt duo: sufficit unus<br />
Huic operi: si vis, ut loquar, ipse tace.<br />
Crede mihi, quamvis ingentia, Postume, dona<br />
Auctoris pereunt garrulitate sui.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  52 (5.52) (AD 90)  [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;Self-Praise&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/154/mode/2up?q=%22self-praise%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Postumus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.52">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thy gifts to me I thinke of, and still shall.<br>
<span class="tab">Why then do I not speake of them at all?<br>
Thou dost. Where ere I tell thy charitie,<br>
<span class="tab">Tis answer'd straight, himselfe has told it me.<br>
This work befits not both; one is enough;<br>
<span class="tab">If thou wouldst have me speake, be silent thou.<br>
For (trust me) wert thou nere so liberall,<br>
<span class="tab">The givers talking would destroy it all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.59?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), ep. 53]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What thou conferr'st on me I do<br>
<span class="tab">Remember, and shall think on, too.<br>
Why therefore do I hold my tongue?<br>
<span class="tab">Cause, Posthumus, thou ne'er hast done.<br>
As often as I go to treat<br>
<span class="tab">of these thy gifts to them I meet,<br>
'T is presently replied, "Forbear,<br>
<span class="tab">He whisper'd it into my ear."<br>
Two men some things cannot do well:<br>
<span class="tab">One person may suffice to tell,<br>
and do this work: if it may please<br>
<span class="tab">That I shall speak, then hold thy peace.<br>
For prithee, Postumus, believe,<br>
<span class="tab">Though that thy gifts are great to give<br>
All thanks must perish, and are lost,<br>
<span class="tab">When authors their own actions boast.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22when%20authors%20their%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>
 
<blockquote>Your favors to me I remember well;<br>
<span class="tab">But do not mention them; because you tell.<br>
Whenever I begin, I'm answer'd strait,<br>
<span class="tab">"I heard from his own mouth, what you relate."<br>
Two ill become the business of but one;<br>
<span class="tab">Be you but silent, I will speak alone.<br>
Great are your gifts; but when proclaim'd around,<br>
<span class="tab">The obligation dies upon the sound.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22favours%20to%20me%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 53]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The services you have rendered me I do not forget, and will always keep them in my mind. How happens it, Posthumus, that I am silent? It is because you talk. Do I begin to expatiate on your favours, I am told, "I heard all about it from himself." Some things are not handsomely performed by two; one person is enough to relate kindness; if you wish me to speak, you must remain silent. The merit of gifts, however great they be, is lost by the garrulity of the giver. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/108/mode/2up?q=%22services+you+have+rendered%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 78; ep. 53]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your services to me I remember, and shall never forget Why then am I silent about them, Postumus? Because you yourself talk of them. Whenever I begin to speak to any one of your favours, he immediately exclaims, "He has told me of them himself." There are certain things which cannot be well done by two people; one is enough in this case. If you wish me to speak, keep silence yourself. Believe me, Postumus, gifts, however great, are deprived of their value by garrulity on the part of the donor.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=Your%20services%20to,of%20the%20donor.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I'm grateful for your favors;<br>
<span class="tab">They'll never be forgot. <br>
You wonder why I'm dumb about 'em?<br>
<span class="tab">Just because you're not.<br>
Whenever I start telling<br>
<span class="tab">Of kindnesses you'd done, <br>
The tale, I find, you'd quite concluded<br>
<span class="tab">Long ere I'd begun.<br>
Now two men spoil the business <br>
<span class="tab">That one does well alone.<br>
If I 'm desired to open my mouth, <br>
<span class="tab">Kindly shut your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22grateful+for+your%22">Nixon</a> (1911)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your bounty to me I remember and shall always keep in mind. Why, then, and I silent about it, Postumus? <i>You</i> speak of it. As often as I begin to report to someone your presents, he at once exclaims, "He himself had told me." These are things which two persons do not do nicely: one suffices for this work' if you want me to speak, be you yourself silent. Trust me; gifts, however great, Postumus, lose their value by the chattering of the giver.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bounty%20to%20me%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Grateful for all your gifts I still shall be;<br>
<span class="tab">"Why then be silent?" Well, you speak for me.<br>
If to a friend your kindness I report,<br>
<span class="tab">With, "Yes, he told me so" he cuts me short.<br>
Some tasks are not so suitable for two,<br>
<span class="tab">So thank you, Postumus, I'll wait for you.<br>
Believe me, gifts, however rich they be,<br>
<span class="tab">Lose all their value by loquacity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22grateful%20for%20all%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #251]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I remember all you have done for me and shall ever keep it in mind. Why then do I say nothing about it, Postumus? <i>You</i> talk. Whenever I start to tell somebody of your generosity, he exclaims at once: "He tole me that himself." Some things are not nicely done by two. One is enough for this work. If you want me to talk, <i>you</i> must hold your tongue. Believe me, Postumus, the most magnificent of gifts are nullified by the garrulity of the giver.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are my patron, I would give you praise,<br>
<span class="tab">But when talk of your virtues I would raise,<br>
I'm told you have already laid them out.<br>
<span class="tab">Where I would whisper, you your merits shout.<br>
We must more prudently divide our labor<br>
<span class="tab">To have efficient impact on our neighbor.<br>
If I'm to praise you, you must hold your peace,<br>
<span class="tab">Or give me from my gratitude release.<br>
Your gifts do not give me the power to do<br>
<span class="tab">Promotion constantly undone by you.<br>
You undermine my prized veracity<br>
<span class="tab">With puffings of your own loquacity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22give%20you%20praise%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I'll always cherish what you’ve done for me. <br>
<span class="tab">Why don’t I speak of it? Because you do. <br>
Whenever I tell someone of your bounty, <br>
<span class="tab">he cries at once: <i>“He</i> told me of it, too!” <br>
Some things two can’t do well; just one suffices. <br>
<span class="tab">You must keep mum, if you want <i>me</i> to gush. <br>
Believe me, Postumus, the greatest gifts <br>
<span class="tab">are canceled when the giver just won't hush.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22I%27ll+always+cherish%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>About your gifts I'd love to gush,<br>
<span class="tab">Instead, I feel I have to hush.<br>
When I tell people, they don't doubt it:<br>
<span class="tab">You've <i>already</i> bragged about it.<br>
Maybe we should coordinate<br>
<span class="tab">Who praises your largesse of late.<br>
But gifts do lose their gleam and such <br>
<span class="tab">When givers praise themselves too much.<br>
[tr. Hill (2023)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  57 (5.57) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I called you &#8220;My lord,&#8221; you&#8217;ve no reason for pride: For so to your slaves I have often replied. [Cum voco te dominum, noli tibi, Cinna, placere: Saepe etiam servum sic resaluto tuum.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: When &#8220;Sir&#8221; I call you, be not pleased; for know, Cinna, I often call your servant so. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I called you &#8220;My lord,&#8221; you&#8217;ve no reason for pride:<br />
For so to your slaves I have often replied.</p>
<p><em>[Cum voco te dominum, noli tibi, Cinna, placere:<br />
Saepe etiam servum sic resaluto tuum.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  57 (5.57) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22so+to+your+slaves%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.57">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When "Sir" I call you, be not pleased; for know, <br>
Cinna, I often call your servant so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22call%20thy%20servant%22&pg=PA251&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I call you "My lord," do not be vain, Cinna. I often return your slave's salutation in a similar way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=When%20I%20call%20you%20%22My%20lord%3B%22%20do%20not%20be%20vain%2C%20Cinna.%20I%20often%20return%20your%20slave%27s%20salutation%20in%20a%20similar%20way.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I call you "master" don't pride yourself, Cinna. I often return even your slave's greeting so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22slave's%20greeting%22&pg=PA337&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When I call you "lord," don't get conceited. I often return your slave's greeting too in that way.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I call you "Boss"? Don't show wild joy.<br>
That's what I call my slaves' head boy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=5.57">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When I call you "lord," don't swagger, Cinna. Why?<br>
I often give your slave the same reply.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22don%27t+swagger%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>When I call you "Boss," Cinna, don't be so pleased with yourself; I often reply that way when your slave says hello, even.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22slave%20says%20hello%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote><u>Variation:</u><br>
Though I do "Sir" thee, be not vain, I pray:<br>
I "Sir" my monkey Jacko every day.<br>
-- <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22monkey%20jacko%22&pg=PA251&printsec=frontcover">Cyrus Redding</a>, "N. M. Mag., 1828"</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  58 (5.58.7-8) (AD 90) [tr. Nisbet (2015)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#8217;ll &#8220;start living tomorrow&#8221;? Start living today already, Postumus, you&#8217;re running out of time. Anyone with sense started living yesterday. [Cras vives? hodie iam vivere, Postume, serum est: Ille sapit, quisquis, Postume, vixit heri.] (Source (Latin)). See a related sentiment by Martial in 1.15. Other translations: Thou&#8217;lt live to morrow? &#8212; &#8217;tis too late to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll &#8220;start living tomorrow&#8221;? Start living today already, Postumus, you&#8217;re running out of time. Anyone with sense started living yesterday.</p>
<p><em>[Cras vives? hodie iam vivere, Postume, serum est:<br />
Ille sapit, quisquis, Postume, vixit heri.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  58 (5.58.7-8) (AD 90) [tr. Nisbet (2015)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA44&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22started%20living%20yesterday%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=Postume&la=la&can=postume2&prior=vivere">Source (Latin)</a>). See a related sentiment by Martial in <a href="https://wist.info/martial/37739/">1.15</a>. Other translations:<br><br>




<blockquote><i>Thou'lt live to morrow?</i> -- 'tis too late to day:<br>
Hee's wise who yesterday, I liv'd, can say.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/72/mode/2up?q=%22too+late+to+day%22">Sherburne</a> (1651)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Thou'lt live tomorrow? -- this day's life's too late:<br>
He's wise that lived before the present date.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22he%20is%20the%20wise%20man%22&pg=PA251&printsec=frontcover">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tomorrow will I live, the fool does say; <br>
Today itself's too late; the wise lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA231&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22lived%20yesterday%22">Cowley</a> (1668), in Hay, "Appendix," ep. 59]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Today to live, ev'n that's too late I say.<br>
The wiseman, Posthumus, liv'd Yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_arts_of_logick_and_rhetorick_adapted/dvQIAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20%22Twill%20be%20too%20late%20to-morrow%22&pg=PA219&printsec=frontcover&bsq=martial%20%22Twill%20be%20too%20late%20to-morrow%22">Oldmixon</a> (1728)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You will live, you say, tomorrow; it is late, Posthumus, to live today; he is wise who lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/94/mode/2up?q=tomorrow">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 46, noted as Martial Book 5, ep. 59]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You will live tomorrow: even today it is too late to begin to live. He is the wise man, Postumus, who lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=You%20will%20live%20to-morrow%3A%20even%20to-day%20it%20is%20too%20late%20to%20begin%20to%20live.%20He%20is%20the%20wise%20man%2C%20Postumus%2C%20who%20lived%20yesterday.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To live today, Postumus, is already too late. He is wise, whoever he be, Postumus, who "lived" yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22he%20is%20wise%22&pg=PA337&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Tomorrow": -- nay, do not this moment delay.<br>
The wise man is he who has lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/156/mode/2up?q=%22the+wise+man+is+he%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You'll live tomorrow? Now's too late, I say.<br>
He's wise, my Postumus, who lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20late,%20i%20say%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #255]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Yes, this is what wise Martial says,<br>
<span class="tab">Though in another way:<br>
"It's much too late today to live!<br>
<span class="tab">The wise lived yesterday!"<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22wise+Martial%22">Marcellino</a> (1968), "To a Crass Procrastinator"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Tomorrow"? -- Postumus, today's too late.<br>
The wise man, Postumus, lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20wise%20man%22">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Will you live tomorrow? It's already overlate, Postumus, to live today. He is wise, Postumus, who lived yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Tomorrow? It’s already too late to live today:<br>
He who lived yesterday, Postumus, he is wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798978:~:text=Tomorrow%3F%C2%A0It%E2%80%99s%20already,he%20is%20wise.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Forget tomorrow's teasing long delay.<br>
To make life pleasant, dwell on yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT8&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22teasing%20long%20delay%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Will you live <i>then?</i> Today is late already.<br>
He's wise who did his living yesterday.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22living+yesterday%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Believe me, wise men don’t say “I shall live to do that,”<br>
Tomorrow’s life is too late; live today.</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  59 (5.59) (AD 90) [tr. Killigrew (1695)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That I nor gold nor silver to you send, I this forbear, for your sake, learned friend. Who gives great gifts, expects great gifts again; My cheap ones to return will cause no pain. [Quod non argentum, quod non tibi mittimus aurum, Hoc facimus causa, Stella diserte, tua. Quisquis magna dedit, voluit sibi magna remitti; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I nor gold nor silver to you send,<br />
<span class="tab">I this forbear, for your sake, learned friend.<br />
Who gives great gifts, expects great gifts again;<br />
<span class="tab">My cheap ones to return will cause no pain.</p>
<p><em>[Quod non argentum, quod non tibi mittimus aurum,<br />
Hoc facimus causa, Stella diserte, tua.<br />
Quisquis magna dedit, voluit sibi magna remitti;<br />
Fictilibus nostris exoneratus eris.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  59 (5.59) (AD 90) [tr. Killigrew (1695)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=That%20I%20nor%20gold%20nor%20silver%20to%20you%20send%2C" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.59">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>


<blockquote>That of silver or gold we afford no oblation,<br>
'Tis for they sake, sweet Stella, th' economy's such.<br>
Ample off'rings expect ample remuneration;<br>
<span class="tab">A plain service of earth will not gravitate much.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA58&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22silver%20or%20gold%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 2, ep. 11]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In forbearing to send you either silver or gold, eloquent Stella, I have acted for your interest. Whoever makes great presents, wishes great presents to be made in return. By my present of earthenware vases you will be released from such an obligation.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=In%20forbearing%20to%20send%20you%20either%20silver%20or%20gold%2C%20eloquent%20Stella%2C%20I%20have%20acted%20for%20your%20interest.%20Whoever%20makes%20great%20presents%2C%20wishes%20great%20presents%20to%20be%20made%20him%20in%20return.%20By%20my%20present%20of%20earthenware%20vases%20you%20will%20be%20released%20from%20such%20an%20obligation.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In sending you no silver plate, no gold plate, I act in your interest, eloquent Stella. He who has given great presents has desired great presents in return: your burden will be lightened by my earthenware.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20silver%20plate%22&pg=PA337&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Dear poet friend, desirous to befriend you<br>
<span class="tab">It is not gold or silver that I send you,<br>
For costly gifts demand a costly guerdon;<br>
<span class="tab">My pretty gift shall free you from a burden.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/156/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I send you no silver, if I send you no gold, I do so for your sake, eloquent Stella. Whoever gives much, wants much in return. My earthenware will take a load off your shoulders.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thank me you get no wealthy gifts from me.<br>
It keeps you of reciprocation free.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=5.59">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>In sending you no silver and no gold,<br>
my purpose, eloquent Stella, is to please.<br>
A lavish giver wants a big return --<br>
<span class="tab">my earthenware will put you at your ease.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22no+silver%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy! let my cup with rosy wine o&#8217;erflow,<br />
<span class="tab">Above the melting of the summer snow:<br />
Let my wet hair with wasteful odour shine,<br />
<span class="tab">And loads of roses round my temples twine:<br />
Tombs of the Caesars, your sad honours cry,<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Live, little men, for lo! the gods can die.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Sextantes, Calliste, duos infunde Falerni,<br />
Tu super aestivas, Alcime, solve nives,<br />
Pinguescat nimio madidus mihi crinis amomo<br />
Lassenturque rosis tempora sutilibus.<br />
Tam vicina iubent nos vivere Mausolea,<br />
Cum doceant, ipsos posse perire deos.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  64 (5.64) (AD 90) [tr. Hodgson (1809)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lady_Jane_Grey/p50uAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22cup%20with%20rosy%20wine%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Martial could see the Mausoleum of Augustus from his house on the Quirinal.<br><br>

"Summer snow" was snow preserved (or transported from the mountains) until the summer, used like ice to cool drinks.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.64">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You, boy, two measures of brisk wine let flow, <br>
And you, pour on it summer cooling snow; <br>
Let my moist hairs with rich perfumes abound, <br>
With loads of rosy wreaths my temples crown'd: <br>
"Live now," our neighbouring stately tombs do cry, <br>
"Since kings, you see (your petty gods), can die. <br>
[<a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=You%2C%20boy%2C%20two%20measures%20of%20brisk%20wine%20let%20flow%2C%C2%A0%0AAnd%20you%2C%20pour%20on%20it%20summer%20cooling%20snow%3B%C2%A0%0ALet%20my%20moist%20hairs%20with%20rich%20perfumes%20abound%2C%C2%A0%0AWith%20loads%20of%20rosy%20wreaths%20my%20temples%20crown%27d%3A%C2%A0%0A%22Live%20now%2C%22%20our%20neighbouring%20stately%20tombs%20do%20cry%2C%C2%A0%0A%22Since%20kings%2C%20you%20see%20(your%20petty%20gods)%2C%20can%20die.%C2%A0">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Two cups, Calistus, of rich wine fill thou,<br>
Thou Alcimus, allay 't with summer snow.<br>
Let my moist haire with richest oyntment sweat;<br>
And sweet rose chaplets on my Temples set.<br>
Come, let us live; the Caesars tombes so nigh<br>
Teach us that even the gods themselves will dye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.77?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 3.65]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Twice four Falernians, dear Callistus, pour:<br>
Diffuse, my Alcimus, the snowy show'r.<br>
Bid my locks fatten with enormous oil:<br>
With textur'd roses make my temples toil.<br>
We learn to live from Mausoleums by,<br>
Which teach us that the gods themselves can dy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 73]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fill high the bowl with sparkling wine;<br>
<span class="tab">Cool the bright draught with summer snow.<br>
<span class="tab">Amid my locks let odours flow;<br>
Around my temples roses twine.<br>
See yon proud emblem of decay,<br>
<span class="tab">Yon lordly pile that braves the sky!<br>
It bids us live our little day,<br>
<span class="tab">Teaching that gods themselves may die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Poems_Original_and_Translated/1yQHAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fill%20high%20the%20bowl%22">Merivale</a> (1838)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fill the double-<i>cyathi</i> cujps with Falernian, pour summer-snow over the wine, let our hair be wet with unstinted perfume, and our temples be loaded with chaplets of roses. The adjacent Mausolea teach us how to live, for they show that even gods can die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/178/mode/2up?q=%22summer+snow%22">Amos</a> (1858), 5.65]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fill double cups of Falernian, Callistus; dissolve into it, Alcimus, the summer snow. Let my hair drip richly with abundance of nard, and my temples be encircled with wreaths of roses. The Mausoleums, close at hand, bid us live, for they teach us that even gods can die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=Fill%20double%20cups%20of%20Falernian%2C%20Callistus%3B%20dissolve%20into%20it%2C%20Alcimus%2C%20the%20summer%20snow.1%20Let%20my%20hair%20drip%20richly%20with%20abundance%20of%20nard%2C%20and%20my%20temples%20be%20encircled%20with%20wreaths%20of%20roses.%20The%20Mausoleums%2C%20close%20at%20hand%2C%20bid%20us%20live%2C%20for%20they%20teach%20us%20that%20even%20gods%202%20can%20die.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pour in, Callistus, two double-measures of Falernian; do thou, Alciums, dissolve upon them the summer's snow; let my dripping locks be rich with over-bounteous balm, and my temples droop beneath the knitted roses. Your tombs, so nigh, bid us enjoy life, forasmuch as they teach us that the very gods can die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22pour%20in%20callistus%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Slave, a full draught of vintage fine, <br>
And bid thy comrade cool the wine, <br>
<span class="tab">Let snow its heat allay;<br>
Twine rosy wreaths to deck my head, <br>
Nard shall its precious fragrance shed <br>
<span class="tab">To crown my locks to-day;<br>
For Caesar’s tomb that standeth nigh <br>
Doth warn that even gods can die,<br>
<span class="tab">I’ll live while yet I may.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/158/mode/2up?q=%22carpe+diem%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Carpe Diem"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Callistus, pour two bumpers, pour them neat;<br>
Melt, Alcimus, the snow to quench their heat.<br>
In oozy spikenard steep your perfumed hair<br>
And bow my head with rosy garlands fair.<br>
From yonder Mausoleum breathes the sigh,<br>
"Live while thou mayest, gods themselves must die."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22two%20bumpers%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 259]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pour in an extra cup of dark Falernian.<br>
<span class="tab">Strain it through the summer's snow and chill.<br>
Anoint my dripping hair with fragrant perfume,<br>
<span class="tab">And crown my head with roses, if you will.<br>
The Mausoleum of divine Augustus<br>
<span class="tab">Looming close, so very close nearby,<br>
Orders us to live and love existence<br>
<span class="tab">Since even gods themselves decline and die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22pour+in+an+extra%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Callistus, pour in a double double of Falernian. Alcimus, melt summer snow over it. Let my soaked hair be sleek with an excess of unguent and my temples wearied by stitched roses. The Mausoleum so close at hand tells us to live, teaching that the very gods can perish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-1-0674995554-9780674995550.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pour me a double measure, of Falernian, Callistus,<br>
and you Alcimus, melt over it summer snows,<br>
let my sleek hair be soaked with excess of perfume,<br>
my brow be wearied beneath the sewn-on rose.<br>
The Mausoleum tells us to live, that one nearby,<br>
it teaches us that the gods themselves can die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798979:~:text=Pour%20me%20a,themselves%20can%20die.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Callistus, pour me a double of Falernian.<br>
<span class="tab">Chill it, Alcimus, with summer snows.<br>
Sleek my damp hair with ample oil of cardamom,<br>
<span class="tab">and weight my brows with garlands made of rose.<br>
The Mausoleum of Caesar, so close by,<br>
<span class="tab">says, "Live it up, for even gods can die."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/46/mode/2up?q=%22pour+me+a+double%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  73 (5.73) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;Return Favours&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#8217;t I send my book to you Although you often urge me to? The reason&#8217;s good, for if I did You&#8217;d send me yours &#8212; which God forbid! [Non donem tibi cur meos libellos Oranti totiens et exigenti, Miraris, Theodore? Magna causa est: Dones tu mihi ne tuos libellos.] Compare to Epigram 7.3. (Source [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t I send my book to you<br />
Although you often urge me to?<br />
The reason&#8217;s good, for if I did<br />
You&#8217;d send me yours &#8212; which God forbid!</p>
<p><em>[Non donem tibi cur meos libellos<br />
Oranti totiens et exigenti,<br />
Miraris, Theodore? Magna causa est:<br />
Dones tu mihi ne tuos libellos.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  73 (5.73) (AD 90) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;Return Favours&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/160/mode/2up?q=%22return+favours%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Compare to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/48814/">Epigram 7.3</a>. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.73">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Thou wonder'st, Theodore, why I<br>
Entreated oft and urgently<br>
Refuse to send my Bookes to thee;<br>
I feare thou 'lt send thine owne to me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.30?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 5.74]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Why I dole thee not my pieces,<br>
Theodore, thou may'st devine.<br>
Yet thy wond'ring zeal increases:<br>
Lest thou should'st redole me thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20theodorus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 48]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Why ne'er to me," the Laureat cries,<br>
"Are poet Paulo's verses sent?"<br>
"For fear," the tuneful rogue replies,<br>
"You should return the compliment."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=theodorus">Hodgson</a> (c. 1810)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I give thee, friend, no works of mine,<br>
For fear you should return me thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/236/mode/2up">Lamb</a> (1821)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you wonder for what reason, Theodorus, notwithstanding your frequent requests and importunities, I have never presented you with my works? I have an excellent reason; it is lest you should present me with yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20wonder%20for%20what%20reason%2C%20Theodorus%2C%20notwithstanding%20your%20frequent%20requests%20and%20importunities%2C%20I%20have%20never%20presented%20you%20with%20my%20works%3F%20I%20have%20an%20excellent%20reason%3B%20it%20is%20lest%20you%20should%20present%20me%20with%20yours.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though it's true, Theodorus, you frequently pray<br>
For my book in a flattering tone,<br>
No wonder I'm slow; I've good cause for delay<br>
In my fear you'd then send me your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/40/mode/2up?q=theodorus">Nixon</a> (1911), "Vendetta"] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why don't I give you my works, although so often you beseech me for them, and press me? Do you wonder, Theodorus? There is great reason: that you may not give me your works.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=theodorus">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you wonder, Theodorus, why I don't give you my little books for all that you beg and demand them so often? For an excellent reason: I don't want you giving me <em>your</em> little books.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ted, don't give me pleading looks,<br>
And beg I send you all my books,<br>
Your ask comes with a healthy fee:<br>
You'll then send all of yours to me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why, Theodorus, don't I send my books, though you demand and plead repeatedly? My answer's good: so you won't give me yours to read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PA11#v=snippet&q=theodorus&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask my verse, so here. This evens scores:<br>
I had kept mine in hopes you would keep yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22this%20evens%20scores%22">Young</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wonder why I never ask you if you’ve read my book?<br>
I’m not one of those narcissistic bores<br>
who fishes around for praise with such a thinly baited hook.<br>
Besides, I’m worried you’ll ask if I’ve read yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=A%20Good%20Reason,Brooke%20Clark">Clark</a>, "A Good Reason"]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  5, epigram  81 (5.81) (AD 90) [tr. Michie (1972)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re poor now, my friend, then you&#8217;ll stay poor. These days only the rich get given more. [Semper eris pauper, si pauper es, Aemiliane; Dantur opes nulli nunc, nisi divitibus.] &#8220;To Aemilianus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Faile yee of wealth, of wealthy ye still will faile, None but fat sowes are now greaz&#8217;d in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re poor now, my friend, then you&#8217;ll stay poor.<br />
These days only the rich get given more.</p>
<p><em>[Semper eris pauper, si pauper es, Aemiliane;<br />
Dantur opes nulli nunc, nisi divitibus.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  81 (5.81) (AD 90) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22poor+now%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Aemilianus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.81">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Faile yee of wealth, of wealthy ye still will faile,<br>
None but fat sowes are now greaz'd in the taile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22faile+yee%22">Davison</a> (1602), "To All Poore Schollers"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou be poore, thou shalt be ever so;<br>
None now do wealth, but on the rich, bestowe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.26?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If thou are poor, Æmilian,<br>
Thou shalt be ever so,<br>
For no man now his presents can<br>
But on the rich bestow. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=LzXgAAAAMAAJ&vq=81&pg=PA262#v=onepage&q=book%20v&f=false">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want, Æmilianus, so you may;<br>
Riches are given rich men, and none but they.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22given%20rich%20men%22">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Once poor, my friend, still poor you must remain, <br>
The rich alone have all the means of gain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Harrison_s_British_Classicks_Dr_Johnson/0wdAAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=johnson+rambler+%22once+poor%22&pg=PA375&printsec=frontcover">Edward Cave</a>, <i>Rambler</i> # 166 (19 Oct 1751); sometimes attributed to publisher Samuel Johnson]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor once and poor for ever, Nat, I fear;<br>
None but the rich get place and pension here. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=Poor%20once%20and%20poor%20for%20ever%2C%20Nat%2C%20I%20fear%3B%C2%A0%0ANone%20but%20the%20rich%20get%20place%20and%20pension%20here.">Halhed</a> (1793)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you are poor now, Æmilianus, you will always be poor.<br>
Riches are now given to none but the rich. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=If%20you%20are%20poor%20now%2C%20Aemilianus%2C%20you%20will%20always%20be%20poor%2C%20Riches%20are%20now%20given%20to%20none%20but%20the%20rich.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If poor you are, poor you will always be,<br>
For wealth’s now given to none but to the rich.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22si%20pauper%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You will always be poor, if you are poor, Aemilianus. <br>
Wealth is given today to none save the rich. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22always%20be%20poor%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gold only draws to gold, so it is plain,<br>
If you are poor, that poor you will remain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/162/mode/2up?q=%22like+to+like%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor if you are, my friend,<br>
Poor will you always be.<br>
Money gets money today; <br>
Poverty, poverty.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/68/mode/2up?q=%22To+Aemilianus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.<br>
These days only the rich get given more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22poor+now%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You will always be poor if you are poor, Aemilianus.
Nowadays wealth is given only to the rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're cursed by poverty? But they tell me you're "blessed." <br>
While the rich get richer ... you know the rest.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aemilianus, you’ll always be poor if you’re poor.<br>
These days they only give wealth to the rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798981:~:text=Aemilianus%2C%20you%E2%80%99ll%20always,to%20the%20rich.">Klein</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vainly the poor extend their palms.<br>
Only the rich are given alms.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%225.81%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you're a poor man now, Amos,<br>
a poor man you'll remain.<br>
Riches are only given only <br>
to rich men.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22poor%20man%20now%22">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You will always be poor, Aemilianus, if you are poor;<br>
nowadays wealth comes to no one but the rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2012/09/27/martial-epigrams-5-81/">@sentantiq</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If poor, Aemilianus, poor you'll stay.<br>
None but the rich get wealthier today.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22If+poor%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[I flee you, Dindymus, when chased; I chase you when you flee. It’s not your wanting me I want; it’s your not wanting me. &#160; [Insequeris, fugio; fugis, insequor; haec mihi mens est: Velle tuum nolo, Dindyme, nolle volo.] &#8220;To Dindymus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: I fly, you follow; fly when I pursue: What I [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I flee you, Dindymus, when chased; I chase you when you flee.<br />
It’s not your wanting me I want; it’s your not wanting me.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[Insequeris, fugio; fugis, insequor; haec mihi mens est:<br />
Velle tuum nolo, Dindyme, nolle volo.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  5, epigram  83 (5.83) (AD 90) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/48/mode/2up?q=%22i+flee+you%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Dindymus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:5.83">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>I fly, you follow; fly when I pursue:<br>
What I love, hate; what hated, loved by you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20fly%20you%20follow%22">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pursue, I fly; you fly, I pursue; such is my Humour. What you wish, Dindymus, I do not wish; what you do not wish, I do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book05.htm#:~:text=You%20pursue%2C%20I%20fly%3B%20you%20fly%2C%20I%20pursue%3B%20such%20is%20my%20Humour.%20What%20you%20wish%2C%20Dindymus%2C%20I%20do%20not%20wish%3B%20what%20you%20do%20not%20wish%2C%20I%20do.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pursue me, I fly; you fly, I follow. Such is your mind; your willingness I reject, Dindymus, your coyness I prize.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20pursue%20me%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Follow, and I shall flee, <br>
Fly, I shall follow thee;<br>
<span class="tab">Such is the bent <br>
Of love’s perversity; <br>
Denial draweth me,<br>
<span class="tab">But not assent.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/162/mode/2up?q=%22THE+OLD+STORY%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Old Story"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You follow, I flee; you flee, I follow.<br>
<span class="tab">That's the way it goes.<br>
I hate your yesses, Dindymus,<br>
<span class="tab">I much prefer your noes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/68/mode/2up?q=%22you+follow+i+flee%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I run, you chase; you chase, I run.<br>
I love what's cold: what's hot I shun.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20run%20you%20chase%22">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're hot to trot? Well then I'm not.<br>
<span class="tab">You've cooled? I'm ardent on the spot.<br>
What's going on? Don't sulk, my pet:<br>
<span class="tab">I like you best as hard to get.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22you%27ve+cooled%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pursue, I fly; you fly, I pursue. This is the way I am. Your wishing, Dindymus, I wish not; your wishing not I wish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.pdfdrive.com/martial-epigrams-volume-i-spectacles-books-1-5-loeb-classical-library-no-94-e157115547.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You chase, I flee; you flee, I chase; it’s how I am:<br>
what you wish I don’t, Dindymus, what you don’t I wish.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#:~:text=You%20chase%2C%20I,don%E2%80%99t%20I%20wish.">Kline</a> (2006), "Contrary"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I fly when you pursue me,<br>
<span class="tab">But when you shy, I woo thee.<br>
Explain it to me, can't you,<br>
<span class="tab">Why I must ever want to want you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%225.83%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[The hair she swears is hers Fabulla bought. So, Paulus, is that perjury or not? [Iurat capillos esse, quos emit, suos Fabulla: numquid, Paule, peierat?] Perhaps a reference back to Paulus doing something similar with poetry (ep. 2.10). (Source (Latin)). Other translations: You see the goodly hayre that Galla weares, &#8216;Tis certain her own hair, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hair she swears is hers Fabulla bought.<br />
So, Paulus, is that perjury or not?</p>
<p><em>[Iurat capillos esse, quos emit, suos<br />
Fabulla: numquid, Paule, peierat?]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram  12 (6.12) (AD 91) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22fabulla%20bought%22&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Perhaps a reference back to Paulus doing something similar with poetry (ep. <a href="https://wist.info/martial/47371/">2.10</a>). (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:6.12">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You see the goodly hayre that <i>Galla</i> weares,<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis certain her own hair, who would have thought it?<br>
She sweares it is her owne: and true she sweares:<br>
<span class="tab">For hard by Temple-barre last day she bought it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22goodly%20hayre%22">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600), Ep. 162 - <em>Epigrams</em> Book 2 #66 "Of Galla's goodly Periwigge"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The golden hair that Galla wears<br>
<span class="tab">Is hers: who would have thought it?<br>
She swears 'tis hers, and true she swears,<br>
<span class="tab">For I know where she bought it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22golden%20hair%22">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600), as paraphrased in Bohn, possibly from Anon. below.]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Fabulla sweares her haire (which at a rate<br>
She bought) is hers. Is she forsworne in that?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.80?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Shee sweares tis her owne hayre. Who would have thought it?<br>
Shee's nott forsworne though: I know where shee bought it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/154/mode/2up">Anon.</a> - British Library MS Add. 27343 (17th C)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Locks Fabby purchas'd, and her own she swore.<br>
Who would not, Paul, the perjury deplore?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22locks%20fabby%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 163]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabulla swears that the hair which she has bought is her own. Does she perjure herself, Paulus?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=Fabulla%20swears%20that%20the%20hair%20which%20she%20has%20bought%20is%20her%20own.%20Does%20she%20perjure%20herself%2C%20Paulus%3F">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabulla swears that the hair she buys is hers.<br>
Does she therefore swear falsely, Paulus?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fabulla%20swears%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Those purchased tresses which her head adorn<br>
Fabulla swears are hers -- is she forsworn?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/168/mode/2up?q=%22by+right+of+purchase%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "By Right of Purchase"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>That plush hair Fabulla wears? <br>
<span class="tab">It's hers, Fabulla swears. <br>
I've no reason to deny it: <br>
<span class="tab">I saw Fabulla buy it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22fabulla+swears%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Fabulla swears that the hair she buys is her own. Is that perjury, Paulus?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Swears Fabby of her hair so fine,<br>
"I purchased it, so, yes, it's mine."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The coif she wears she claims she grew.<br>
Does that seem splitting hairs to you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22coif%20she%20wears%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>She swears the hair she bought is her own.<br>
Is she lying? No.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22is%20she%20lying%22">Kennelly</a> (2008), "No Lie"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabulla swears that hair is hers -- the hair she bought; tell me, Paulus, is she lying?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fabulla%20swears%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lucky yet sad? My friend, should Fortune find You lacking gratitude, she&#8217;ll change her mind. [Tristis es et felix. Sciat hoc Fortuna caveto: Ingratum dicet te, Lupe, si scierit.] &#8220;To Lupus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Th&#8217; art rich &#038; sad; take heed lest fortune know; She &#8216;ll call th&#8217; unthankefull, Lupus, if she do. [tr. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky yet sad? My friend, should Fortune find<br />
You lacking gratitude, she&#8217;ll change her mind.</p>
<p><em>[Tristis es et felix. Sciat hoc Fortuna caveto:<br />
Ingratum dicet te, Lupe, si scierit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram  79 (6.79) (AD 91) [tr. B. Hill (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22lucky%20yet%20sad%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Lupus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:6.79">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Th' art rich & sad; take heed lest fortune know;<br>
She 'll call th' unthankefull, Lupus, if she do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.27?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How? sad and rich? Beware lest Fortune catch<br>
Thee, Lupus, then she'll call thee thankless wretch.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sad%20and%20rich%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Th'art rich and sad; take heed lest Fortune see,<br>
And, as ungrateful, do proceed with thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22rich%20and%20sad%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What! sad and successfull! let Fortune not know.<br>
Ingrate! would she brand thee, did she see thee so.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20fortune%20not%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 88]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are sad in the midst of every blessing. Take care that Fortune does not observe, or she will call you ungrateful.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=You%20are%20sad%20in%20the%20midst%20of%20every%20blessing.%20Take%20care%20that%20Fortune%20does%20not%20observe%2C%20or%20she%20will%20call%20you%20ungrateful.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are sad, although fortunate. Take care Fortune does not know this; "Ingrate" will be her name for you, Lupus, if she knows.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sad%20although%20fortunate%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In spite of your luck you seem gloomy of late:<br>
Take care, or Dame Fortune will dub you 'Ingrate.'<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/188/mode/2up?q=%22LXXIX+TO+LUPUS%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are sad and lucky. Mind you don't let Fortune know. She will call you ungrateful, Lupus, if she gets to know.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lupus, you're sad, though lucky. Don't disclose it.<br>
Fortune will call you thankless if she knows it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22though+lucky%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You've got it all, Lupus, but you're glum, moping, dour.<br>
Do you want Fortune to think you're ungrateful to her?<br>
[tr. D. Hill (2023)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me kindly Rome loves, quotes my books, and buys them; But till that critic feigning to despise them Blushed and turned pale, then yawned and looked confounded, I never felt my fame was surely grounded. [Laudat, amat, cantat nostros mea Roma libellos, Meque sinus omnes, me manus omnis habet. Ecce rubet quidam, pallet, stupet, oscitat, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me kindly Rome loves, quotes my books, and buys them;<br />
<span class="tab">But till that critic feigning to despise them<br />
Blushed and turned pale, then yawned and looked confounded,<br />
<span class="tab">I never felt my fame was surely grounded.</p>
<p><em>[Laudat, amat, cantat nostros mea Roma libellos,<br />
Meque sinus omnes, me manus omnis habet.<br />
Ecce rubet quidam, pallet, stupet, oscitat, odit.<br />
Hoc volo: nunc nobis carmina nostra placent.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram 60 (6.60) (AD 91) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/182/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:6.60">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Rome lauds, & loves, & reades my works, <br>
<span class="tab">and singes them every where:<br>
Each fist doth hld me clutched fast,<br>
<span class="tab">eache bosome me doth beare.<br>
One bluseth lo, as red as fyre,<br>
<span class="tab">anone as pale as claye:<br>
Anone he looks astonished,<br>
<span class="tab">as one did hym dismaye:<br>
Sometime he mumping mockes and moes,<br>
<span class="tab">sometime he doth repine:<br>
Ymarrie, this is that I would:<br>
<span class="tab">now please me verses mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22rome+lauds%22">Kendall</a> (1577)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Rome hugs my verse, and cries up for rare,<br>
<span class="tab">My books each hand and ev'ry bosom bear;<br>
There's one yet lowers, disdains, is ill at ease:<br>
<span class="tab">I'm glad; my verses now myself do please.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22HUGS%20MY%20VERSES%22&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover">Killigrew </a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The town beloves, applauds, attunes my strains;<br>
<span class="tab">Each hand engrasps them, and each bosom gains:<br>
See one change color, grin, and gape with hate!<br>
<span class="tab">This crowns my wish: be this my Muse's fate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22town%20beloves%22">Elphinston</a> (1782)], Book 2, ep. 16]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Rome, city of my affections, praises, loves, and recites my compositions; <br>
I am in every lap, and in every hand. <br>
But see, yon gentleman grows red and pale by turns, looks amazed, yawns, and, in fact, hates me. <br>
I am delighted at the sight; my writings now please me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=Rome%2C%20city%20of%20my%20affections%2C%20praises%2C%20loves%2C%20and%20recites%20my%20compositions%3B%20I%20am%20in%20every%20lap%2C%20and%20in%20every%20hand.%20But%20see%2C%20yon%20gentleman%20grows%20red%20and%20pale%20by%20turns%2C%20looks%20amazed%2C%20yawns%2C%20and%2C%20in%20fact%2C%20hates%20me.%20I%20am%20delighted%20at%20the%20sight%3B%20my%20writings%20now%20please%20me.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859), ep. 61]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Quite friendly, Rome applauds my lay;<br>
<span class="tab">dotes on it, quotes it day by day.<br>
My verses every pocket fill,<br>
<span class="tab">And every hand bethumbs me still.<br>
See, yonder man turns red and white,<br>
<span class="tab">Winces, and yawns disgusted quite.<br>
This I enjoy; by this I tell<br>
<span class="tab">That now my verses please me well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/70/mode/2up?q=%22VI.+61.%22">Webb</a> (1879), ep. 61]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My Rome praises, loves, and hums my verses,<br> 
and every pocket, every hand holds me. <br>
See, yonder fellow turns red, turns pale, is dazed, yawns, curses! v
This is what I want; now my verses please me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=dazed">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>All Rome extols and loves and quotes my lines<br>
And every bosom holds them, every hand;<br>
See one that reddens, pales, yawns, stares and pines.<br>
<span class="tab">Ah! now at last their worth I understand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Rome%20extols%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #306 (ep. 6.61), "A Hit"] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Rome praises, loves, and sings my little verses;<br>
<span class="tab">They're in all hands, all pockets, and all purses.<br>
Look there! One blushes, pales, gasps, yawns, and curses.<br>
<span class="tab">That's what I want! I'm happy with my verses.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22happy%20with%20my%20verses%22">Barth</a> (1988)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All Rome is mad about my book:<br>
<span class="tab">It's praised, they hum the lines, shops stock it,<br>
It peeps from every hand and pocket.<br>
<span class="tab">There's a man reading it! Just look --<br>
He blushes, turns pale, reels, yawns, curses.<br>
<span class="tab">That's what I'm after. Bravo, verses!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22Rome+is+mad%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My Rome praises my little books, loves them, recites them; I am in every pocket, every hand. Look, somebody turns red, turns pale, is dazed, yawns, is disgusted. This I want. Now my poems please me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>For my small books Rome's gone utterly mad;<br>
<span class="tab">I'm quite ubiquitous -- call it a fad.<br>
Look, there -- see that fellow, leafing, curious.<br>
<span class="tab">First he blushes deeply, then he's furious;<br>
A moment later his eyes glaze over;<br>
<span class="tab">He yawns, flips a page, then reels in horror.<br>
This mercurial response I thrill to see;<br>
<span class="tab">Why, then my epigrams even please me!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=For%20my%20small,even%20please%20me!">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Rome praises, loves, and quotes my little books,<br>
I’m there in every pocket, every hand.<br>
See them blush, turn white, stunned, yawn, disgusted.<br>
I like it: now’s when my poems give me delight.<br>
[tr. Kline (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He reads my verses, just to be in fashion.<br>
<span class="tab">But finds himself whipsawed by sudden passion.<br>
He frowns, then chortles -- chokes at what he reads --<br>
<span class="tab">And calls them the most infamous of screeds,<br>
Then he goes pale, as under some indicting --<br>
<span class="tab">You've got him, poems! That's what I call writing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/182/mode/2up">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rome praises, loves, recites my little books.<br>
I'm carried in each hand or pocket. See!<br>
Someone blushes, gapes, yawns, or hates it.<br>
<span class="tab">That's what I want: my verse now pleases me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/54/mode/2up?q=%22rome+praises%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>


<blockquote>My Rome praises, loves and quotes my books,<br>
<span class="tab">which fill all pockets and all hands.<br>
Readers blush, then pale, look dazed, curse, swear.<br>
<span class="tab">Yes! Yes! This is what I’d always planned.<br>
[tr. Matthews]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  6, epigram 67 (6.67) (AD 91) [tr. Marcellino (1968)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you ask me why this girl prefers Eunuchs, that race defiled? She&#8217;d rather get her fill of sex Then fill her belly with child. [Cur tantum eunuchos habeat tua Caelia, quaeris, Pannyche? Volt futui Caelia nec parere.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Pannicus, dost wish to know Why thy Gellia favours so The priests of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ask me why this girl prefers<br />
<span class="tab">Eunuchs, that race defiled?<br />
She&#8217;d rather get her fill of sex<br />
<span class="tab">Then fill her belly with child.</p>
<p><em>[Cur tantum eunuchos habeat tua Caelia, quaeris,<br />
Pannyche? Volt futui Caelia nec parere.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram 67 (6.67) (AD 91) [tr. Marcellino (1968)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/80/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:6.67">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Pannicus, dost wish to know<br>
<span class="tab">Why thy Gellia favours so<br>
The priests of Cybele? To sport<br>
<span class="tab">She loves, and pay no suffering for't.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22pannicus%20dost%22">Anon.</a>] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, Pannicus, why your wife Caelia has about her only priests of Cybele? Caelia loves the flowers of marriage, but fears the fruits.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20ask%2C%20Pannicus%2C%20why%20your%20wife%20Caelia%20has%20about%20her%20only%20priests%20of%20Cybele%3F%20Caelia%20loves%20the%20flowers%20of%20marriage%2C%20but%20fears%20the%20fruits.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, Pannychus, why your Caelia consorts with eunuchs only? Caelia looks for the license of marriage, not the results.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22pannychus%20why%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask whyt your Caelia has only eunuchs, Panychus? Caelia wants to be fucked, but not to have children.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why, with eunuchs, is Caelia beguiled?<br>
Because she wants sex, with no chance of a child.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your Celia keeps company with eunuchs:<br>
<span class="tab">Pannychus, do you find this odd?<br>
It’s the child she hopes to be spared,<br>
<span class="tab">Pannychus, not the rod.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Your%20Celia%20keeps%20company%20with%20eunuchs%3A%0APannychus%2C%20do%20you%20find%20this%20odd%3F%0AIt%E2%80%99s%20the%20child%20she%20hopes%20to%20be%20spared%2C%0APannychus%2C%20not%20the%20rod.">Matthews</a> (1996)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  6, epigram 70 (6.70.15) (AD 91) [tr. Ker (1919)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life is not living, but living in health. [Vita non est vivere, sed valere vita est.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: It is not life to live, but to be well. [tr. Burton (1621)] Not all who live long, but happily, are old. [tr. Killigrew (1695)] For sense and reason tell, That life is only life, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is not living, but living in health.</p>
<p><em>[Vita non est vivere, sed valere vita est.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram 70 (6.70.15) (AD 91) [tr. Ker (1919)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22life%20is%20not%20living%22&pg=PA403&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D6%3Apoem%3D70#:~:text=Non%20est%20vivere%2C%20sed%20valere%20vita%20est.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>It is not life to live, but to be well. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Anatomy_of_Melancholy/E-PQAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20%22It%20is%20not%20life%20to%20live%2C%20but%20to%20be%20well.%22&pg=PA323&printsec=frontcover&bsq=martial%20%22It%20is%20not%20life%20to%20live%2C%20but%20to%20be%20well.%22">Burton</a> (1621)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not all who live long, but happily, are old.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20marcianus%22&pg=PA293&printsec=frontcover">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For sense and reason tell,<br>
That life is only life, when we are well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22life%20is%20only%20life%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For life is not to live, but to be well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Rambler/e_pDAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=rambler+%22Non+est+vivere,+sed+valere,+vita%22&pg=PA277&printsec=frontcover">Johnson</a>, in <i>The Rambler</i>, #48, cited to Elphinston (1 Sep 1750)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To brethe can just not dying give:<br>
But, to be well, must be to live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA111&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22to%20brethe%20can%20just%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 2.115]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For life is not simply living, but living in health.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/90/mode/2up?q=%22lib.+vi%2C+ep.+lxx.%22">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Life consists not in living, but in enjoying health.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=Life%20consists%20not%20in%20living%2C%20but%20in%20enjoying%20health.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>It is not life to live, but to be well.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/TPENAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20life%20to%20live%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The blunderer who deems them so,<br>
<span class="tab">Misreckons life and much mistakes it,<br>
He thinks 'tis drawing breath -- we know<br>
<span class="tab">'Tis health alone that mars or makes it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/186/mode/2up?q=%22health+alone%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Life is not life, but health is life indeed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22life%20is%20not%20life%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #310]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To live is not just life, but health.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA251&printsec=frontcover&bsq=valere">Shepherd</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Life is not being alive, but being well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/lnt1AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=SHACKLETON+BAILEY+%22not+being+alive%22&dq=SHACKLETON+BAILEY+%22not+being+alive%22&printsec=frontcover">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  6, epigram 93 (6.93) (AD 91) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thais smells even worse than a fuller&#8217;s old crock,<br />
<span class="tab">When, set in the street, it succumbs to a knock,<br />
A he-goat when rutting, a lion&#8217;s foul breath,<br />
<span class="tab">A skin of a dog done by tanners to death,<br />
A chicken gone rotten while still in the shell,<br />
<span class="tab">A jar filled with sauce that has not kept too well.<br />
So wishing somehow to disguise this foul reek,<br />
<span class="tab">Whenever she comes to the baths in the week,<br />
She&#8217;s covered with unguent and vinegared flour<br />
<span class="tab">And layers of powder at least three or four.<br />
But spite of these dodges, and do what she will,<br />
<span class="tab">The fact is that Thais of Thais smells still.</p>
<p><em>[Tam male Thais olet, quam non fullonis avari<br />
Testa vetus, media sed modo fracta via,<br />
Non ab amore recens hircus, non ora leonis,<br />
Non detracta cani transtiberina cutis,<br />
5Pullus abortivo nec cum putrescit in ovo,<br />
Amphora corrupto nec vitiata garo.<br />
Virus ut hoc alio fallax permutet odore,<br />
Deposita quotiens balnea veste petit,<br />
Psilothro viret aut acida latet oblita creta<br />
10Aut tegitur pingui terque quaterque faba.<br />
Cum bene se tutam per fraudes mille putavit,<br />
Omnia cum fecit, Thaida Thais olet.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  6, epigram 93 (6.93) (AD 91) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/192/mode/2up?q=thais" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:6.93">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Worse than a fuller's tubb doth Thais stink,<br>
<span class="tab">Broke in the streets, and leaking through each chink;<br>
Or lion's belch; or lustfull reeking goats;<br>
<span class="tab">Or skin of dogg that dead o' the' bankside floats;<br>
Or half-hatch'd chicken from broke rotten eggs,<br>
<span class="tab">Or taynted jarrs of stinking mackrell dreggs.<br>
This vile rank smell with perfumes to disguise,<br>
<span class="tab">Whene'er she's in the bath, she doth devise;<br>
She's with pomatum smugg'd, or pain good store,<br>
<span class="tab">Or oyle of the bean-flow'r varnishe'd o'er and o'er:<br>
A thousand wayes she tries to make all well;<br>
<span class="tab">In vayne, still Thais doth of Thais smell.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22worse%20than%20a%20fuller's%20tubb%22&pg=PA303&printsec=frontcover">Egerton Manuscript 2982</a> (16th C)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor Thais so smells, as no ill-fated tray,<br>
<span class="tab">Of all-catching scourer, just broke in the way:<br>
No love-leaving goat, and no lion's made maw;<br>
<span class="tab">No skin from a dog the Transtiberines draw:<br>
No pullet abortive, that rots in the shell:<br>
<span class="tab">No cask, where the brine of anchovy did dwell.<br>
Yet all her contagion, the sly would suppress,<br>
<span class="tab">Whene'er, at the bath, she deposits her dress.<br>
She smugs in sweet lotion, or sculks in sour chalk;<br>
<span class="tab">In mail of fat bean-meal she wisely will calk.<br>
Thus ev'ry art conjur'd, th' offensive to kill,<br>
<span class="tab">Alas! the poor Thais brethes poor Thais still.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA296&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22poor%20thais%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 28]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thais smells worse than an old jar of a covetous fuller just broken in the middle of the street; worse than a goat after an amorous encounter; than the belch of a lion; than a hide torn from a dog on the banks of the Tiber; than chick rotting in an abortive egg; than a jar fetid with spoilt pickle. Cunningly wishing to exchange this disagreeable odour for some other, she, on laying aside her garments to enter the bath, makes herself green with a depilatory, or conceals herself beneath a daubing of chalk dissolved in acid, or covers herself with three or four layers of rich bean-unguent. When by a thousand artifices she thinks she has succeeded in making herself safe, Thais, after all, smells of Thais.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book06.htm#:~:text=Thais%20smells%20worse%20than%20an%20old%20jar%20of%20a%20covetous%20fuller%20just%20broken%20in%20the%20middle%20of%20the%20street%3B%20worse%20than%20a%20goat%20after%20an%20amorous%20encounter%3B%20than%20the%20belch%20of%20a%20lion%3B%20than%20a%20hide%20torn%20from%20a%20dog%20on%20the%20banks%20of%20the%20Tiber%3B%20than%20chick%20rotting%20in%20an%20abortive%20egg%3B%20than%20a%20jar%20fetid%20with%20spoilt%20pickle.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thais smells worse even than a grasping fuller's long-used crock, and that, too, just smashed in the middle of the street; than a he-goat fresh from his amours; than the breath of a lion; than a hide dragged from a dog beyond Tiber; than a chicken when it rots in an abortive egg; than a two-eared jar poisoned by putrid fish-sauce. In order craftily to substitute for such a reek another odour, whenever she strips and enters the bath she is green with depilatory, or is hidden behind a plaster of chalk and vinegar, or is covered with three or four layers of sticky bean-flower. When she imagines that by a thousand dodges she is quite safe, Thais, do what she will, smells of Thais.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Thais%20smells%20worse%22&pg=PA417&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Old Thais is so rank, shed reeks to heaven,<br>
<span class="tab">Like greedy fuller's crock in pieces riven.<br>
No hot he-goat, no lion's breath so rare<br>
<span class="tab">Or over-Tiber dog-skin out to air.<br>
An ancient pickle-jar describes her best<br>
<span class="tab">Or unhatched chicken in forsaken nest.<br>
To mask her odour by another stench<br>
<span class="tab">She doffs her robe and bathes, the dainty wench.<br>
She's green with ointment, smeared with biting clay,<br>
<span class="tab">And coats of oily bean her charms array.<br>
Let Thais play what tricks and turns she will,<br>
<span class="tab">The scent's breast high; she's the old vixen still.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Old%20Thais%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924)] </blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Worse than a fuller’s crock full of stale piss <br>
Smashed in the gutter by the slaughterhouse; <br>
Worse than a he-goat straight from rut, and worse <br>
Than a lion’s breath or chicken when it rots <br>
In an aborted egg, or hide of a dog <br>
Dragged from the Tiber, or a two-eared jar <br>
Of poisonous fish sauce -- so Thais smells <br>
Of Thais, when she steps fresh from the bath.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/388/mode/2up?q=%22worse+than+a+fuller%27s+crock%22">O'Connell</a> (1991)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Thais smells worse than the veteran crock of a stingy fuller, recently broken in the middle of the road, or a billy goat fresh from his amours, or a linon's mouth, or a hide from behind Tiber torn from a dog, or a chicken rotting in an aborted egg, or a jar polluted with putrid garum. In order to exchange this stench for a differnet odor, whenever she takes off ehr clothse to get into the bath, the crafty lady is green with depilatory or lurks under a lining of chalk and vnegar, or is coated with three or four layers of thick bean meal. A thousand tricks, and she thinks she's safe. But when all's done, Thais smells of Thais.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Thais smells worse than caustic oil,<br>
<span class="tab">Or corpses rotting in the soil,<br>
Or rotten eggs, or rutting goats,<br>
<span class="tab">Or swill that's vomited by stoats.<br>
To hide the odor, Thais drenches<br>
<span class="tab">Her body with distracting stenches.<br>
But worse than ointments on her shelf,<br>
<span class="tab">The smell most dreadful is -- herself.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT82&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Thaios%20smells%20worse%20than%20caustic%20oil%22%22">Wills</a> (2007), 6.98]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram   3 (7.3) (AD 92) [tr. Hay (1755)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You ask me why I have no verses sent? For fear you should return the compliment. [Cur non mitto meos tibi, Pontiliane, libellos? Ne mihi tu mittas, Pontiliane, tuos.] Compare to Epigram 5.73. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Why send I not to thee these books of mine? &#8216;Cause I, Pontilian, would be free from thine. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ask me why I have no verses sent?<br />
For fear you should return the compliment.</p>
<p><em>[Cur non mitto meos tibi, Pontiliane, libellos?<br />
Ne mihi tu mittas, Pontiliane, tuos.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram   3 (7.3) (AD 92) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=You%20ask%20me%20why%20I%20have%20no%20verses%20sent%3F" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Compare to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/52453/">Epigram 5.73</a>. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.3">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>


<blockquote>Why send I not to thee these books of mine?<br>
'Cause I, Pontilian, would be free from thine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22send%20i%20not%22&pg=PA305&printsec=frontcover">Wright</a> (1663)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why I send thee, Pontilian, not one of my writings?<br>
It is lest thou, too gen'rous, return thine enditings.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA441&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22not%20one%20of%20my%20writings%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.10]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why do I not send you my books, Pontilianus? Lest you should send me yours, Pontilianus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=Why%20do%20I%20not%20send%20you%20my%20books%2C%20Pontilianus%3F%20Lest%20you%20should%20send%20me%20yours%2C%20Pontilianus.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Why, sir, I don't my verses send you,<br>
Pray, would you have the reason known?<br>
The reason is -- for fear, my friend, you<br>
Should send me, in return, your own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/76/mode/2up?q=pontilian">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You ask me why I send you not my books?<br>
Lest you should send me yours, my friend, in turn.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22send%20you%20not%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I never send my books, it’s true.<br>
Know why? You’d send me your books too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/24/nutshells-brief-poems-by-robert-west/#:~:text=I%20never%20send%20my%20books%2C%20it%E2%80%99s%20true.%0AKnow%20why%3F%20You%E2%80%99d%20send%20me%20your%20books%20too.">West</a> (1912), "Reply"]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Why do I not send you my works, Pontilianus? That you, Pontilianus, may not send yours to me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22why%20do%20i%20not%20send%22&pg=PA423&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me why my books were never sent?<br>
For fear you might return the compliment.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/196/mode/2up?q=%22why+my+books%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Pontilianus asks why I omit<br>
<span class="tab">To send him all the poetry that is mine;<br>
The reason is that in return for it,<br>
<span class="tab">Pontilianus, thou might'st send me <i>thine.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Pompilianus%20asks%20why,send%20me%20thine.">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me why I do not send you<br>
<span class="tab">All my latest publications?<br>
Let in turn you send me, sir,<br>
<span class="tab">All your latest lucubrations!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22to+pontilianus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Why have I never sent<br>
<span class="tab">My works to you, old hack?<br>
For fear the compliment<br>
<span class="tab">Comes punishingly back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/92/mode/2up?q=%22old+hack%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why don't I send you my little books, Pontilianus? Fore fear you might send me yours, Pontilianus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why don’t I send you my little books?<br>
Pontilianus, lest you send me yours.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798978:~:text=Why%20don%E2%80%99t%20I,send%20me%20yours.">Kline</a> (2006), "No thanks"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me why I send you not my book?<br>
For fear you'll say, "Here's my work -- take a look."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=7.3">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why don’t I send my books to you?<br>
For fear you’d send me <em>your</em> books, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/56/mode/2up?q=%22send+my+books%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You wonder why my little book is overdue,<br>
dear Pontilianus?<br>
It’s just that I don’t want to look at one from you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Dear%20Pontilianus,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You ask me why I’ve sent you no new verses?<br>
There might be reverses.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.thehypertexts.com/Michael%20R.%20Burch%20Epigrams%20and%20Quotes.htm#:~:text=You%20ask%20me%20why%20I%27ve%20sent%20you%20no%20new%20verses%3F%0AThere%20might%20be%20reverses.">Burch</a> (c. 2017)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You fret I haven’t sent you, Wade,<br>
My latest book for free;<br>
The fact is that I’m too afraid<br>
You’d send your book to me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20fret%20I,Jack%20Mitchell">Mitchell</a>]</blockquote><br>






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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  25 (7.25) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;To a Rival Poet&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your verses are full of a sugary grace, As spotless and pure as a well-powdered face, Not an atom of salt or suspicion of gall, So how can they but on an audience pall! Even food does not please if the cooking&#8217;s too simple, And cheeks lack in charm when they haven&#8217;t a dimple. A [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your verses are full of a sugary grace,<br />
<span class="tab">As spotless and pure as a well-powdered face,<br />
Not an atom of salt or suspicion of gall,<br />
<span class="tab">So how can they but on an audience pall!<br />
Even food does not please if the cooking&#8217;s too simple,<br />
<span class="tab">And cheeks lack in charm when they haven&#8217;t a dimple.<br />
A child may like apples and figs without savour;<br />
<span class="tab">But give me the sort that have got a sharp flavour.</p>
<p><em>[Dulcia cum tantum scribas epigrammata semper<br />
Et cerussata candidiora cute,<br />
Nullaque mica salis nec amari fellis in illis<br />
Gutta sit, o demens, vis tamen illa legi!<br />
Nec cibus ipse iuvat morsu fraudatus aceti,<br />
Nec grata est facies, cui gelasinus abest.<br />
Infanti melimela dato fatuasque mariscas:<br />
Nam mihi, quae novit pungere, Chia sapit.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  25 (7.25) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;To a Rival Poet&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/204/mode/2up?q=%22to+a+rival+poet%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.25">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Since all your lines are only sweet and fine,<br>
<span class="tab">As is the skinn which with white wash doth shine,<br>
Butt nott a corne of salt, of dropp of gall,<br>
<span class="tab">In them; yett, foole, though 'dst have me reade them all.<br>
Meate has no gust without sharpe sawce; no face<br>
<span class="tab">Without a smiling dimple has a grace:<br>
For children sweete insipid fruits are best;<br>
<span class="tab">The quick and poynant only me can feast.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22only%20sweet%20and%20fine%22">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He writes Satyres; but herein's the fault,<br>
In no one Satyre there's a mite of salt.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/60/mode/2up">Herrick</a> (1648), "On Poet Prat"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In all the epigrams you write, we trace<br>
<span class="tab">The sweetness, and the candour of your face.<br>
Think you, a reader will for verses call,<br>
<span class="tab">Without one grain of salt, or drop of gall?<br>
'Tis vinegar gives relish to our food:<br>
<span class="tab">A face that cannot smile, is never good.<br>
Smooth tales, like sweet-meats, are for children fit:<br>
<span class="tab">High-season'd, like my dishes, be my wit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22all%20the%20epigrams%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>While thus thou honey'st thine inscriptions all,<br>
<span class="tab">And mak'st them than the whited skin more white;<br>
Thou giv'st no grain of salt, no drop of gall:<br>
<span class="tab">Yet madly dream'st, that reading is thy right.<br>
No food can please, of acid if beguil'd:<br>
<span class="tab">Without a smile no face can charming be.<br>
Sweet apples, tasteless figs cajole a child:<br>
<span class="tab">The Chian smart alone has charmes for me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20another%20poet%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), "To Another Poet," Book 3, ep. 57]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although the epigrams which you write are always sweetness itself and more spotless than a white-leaded skin, and although there is in them neither an atom of salt, nor a drop of bitter gall, yet you expect, foolish man, that they will be read. Why, not even food itself is pleasant, if it is wholly destitute of acid seasoning; nor is a face pleasing, which shows no dimples. Give children your honey-apples and luscious figs; the Chian fig, which has sharpness, pleases my taste.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=Although%20the%20epigrams,pleases%20my%20taste.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859), "To a Bad Epigrammatist"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you continually write epigrams that are merely sweet, and more immaculate than a white-enamelled skin, and no grain of salt, nor drop fo bitter gall is in them, yet, O madman! you wish them to be read! Not food itself is pleasant robbed of biting vinegar, nor is a face winning when no dimple is there. To an infant give honey-apples and insipid figs: for me the Chian fig with a tang has savour.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22continually%20write%20epigrams%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your verses are insipid, mild and meek,<br>
<span class="tab">And white than the lead-beplastered cheek.<br>
There is no tang of salt, no smack of gall,<br>
<span class="tab">The more fool you to wish them read at all.<br>
No dish can spare a dash of vinegar;<br>
<span class="tab">No face will please without a dimple's scar.<br>
Dull figs and honey-apples give the young;<br>
<span class="tab">I like my Chian to be tart and strong.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=339">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 339]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A drop of venom, a little bit of gall.<br>
Lacking these, my friend, your epigrams lack all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/390/mode/2up">O'Connell</a> (1991), "Critique"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You never write epigrams that are not bland and whiter than a white-leaded skin, without a grain of salt in them, not a drop of bitter gall: and yet, you crazy fellow, you want people to read them. There's no relish even in food deprived of vinegar's bite, and a face without a dimple fails to please. Give honey apples and insipid figs to baby: my taste is for the Chian, that knows how to sting.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your pale verse simply doesn't sell.<br>
<span class="tab">It lacks all spice, all taste, all smell.<br>
You write as though for tiny tots,<br>
<span class="tab">And end up sold in discount lots.<br>
You favor bland, or sickly-sweet;<br>
<span class="tab">I like a <i>chimichurri</i> meat.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your epigrams are really nice,<br>
<span class="tab">With nothing in them to entice.<br>
They burble on as smooth as syrup,<br>
<span class="tab">And nothing there to prick the ear up.<br>
They're whiter than a mimic's mask.<br>
<span class="tab">So why do you for hearers ask?<br>
Where you should be a vice decrier,<br>
<span class="tab">You give a baby's pacifier.<br>
For me, no lullabies I sing.<br>
<span class="tab">I want harsh lines that have a sting.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22epigrams%20are%20really%20nice%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The epigrams you write are always bland <br>
<span class="tab">and paler than skin powdered with white lead, <br>
without a grain of wit or drop of bile, <br>
<span class="tab">and still, you fool, you want them to be read! <br>
A face without a dimple has no charm; <br>
<span class="tab">food is insipid, lacking vinegar's zing. <br>
Give honey apples and bland figs to toddlers;<br>
<span class="tab">I savor Chian figs, which know how to sting.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22food%20is%20insipid%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The epigrams you write are full of grace,<br>
<span class="tab">More dazzling than a white-enamelled face;<br>
No grain of salt, no drop of bitter gall --<br>
<span class="tab">You're mad to think they will be read at all.<br>
Sharp vinegar improves the appetite,<br>
<span class="tab">No face without a dimple will delight.<br>
Give children figs and apples without zest<br>
<span class="tab">For me strong figs of Chios taste the best.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22sharp+vinegar+improves+the+appetite%22&pg=PA269&printsec=frontcover">Pitt-Kethley</a>]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  30 (7.30) (AD 92) [tr. Bohn&#8217;s (1871)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You grant your favours, Caelia, to Parthians, to Germans, to Dacians; and despise not the homage of Cilicians and Cappadocians. To you journeys the Egyptian gallant from the city of Alexandria, and the swarthy Indian from the waters of the Eastern Ocean; nor do you shun the embraces of circumcised Jews; nor does the Alan, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You grant your favours, Caelia, to Parthians, to Germans, to Dacians;<br />
and despise not the homage of Cilicians and Cappadocians.<br />
To you journeys the Egyptian gallant from the city of Alexandria,<br />
and the swarthy Indian from the waters of the Eastern Ocean;<br />
nor do you shun the embraces of circumcised Jews;<br />
nor does the Alan, on his Sarmatic steed, pass by you.<br />
How comes it that, though a Roman girl,<br />
no attention on the part of a Roman citizen is agreeable to you? </p>
<p><em>[Das Parthis, das Germanis, das, Caelia, Dacis,<br />
nec Cilicum spernis Cappadocumque toros;<br />
et tibi de Pharia Memphiticus urbe fututor<br />
navigat, a rubris et niger Indus aquis;<br />
nec recutitorum fugis inguina Iudaeorum,<br />
nec te Sarmatico transit Alanus equo.<br />
qua ratione facis cum sis Romans puella,<br />
quod Romana tibi mentula nulla placet?]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  30 (7.30) (AD 92) [tr. Bohn&#8217;s (1871)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=LzXgAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA338&dq=martial%20everywhere%20nowhere&pg=PA319#v=onepage&q=xxx&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D7%3Apoem%3D30">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:

<blockquote>For Parthians, Germans thou thy nets wilt spread;<br>
<span class="tab">Wilt Cappadocian or Cilician wed; <br>
From Memphis comes a whipster unto thee,<br> 
<span class="tab">And a black Indian from the Red Sea;<br>
Nor dost thou fly the circumcised Jew; <br>
<span class="tab">Nor can the Muscovite once pass by you;<br>
Why being a Roman lass dost do thus? tell <br>
<span class="tab">Is't cause no Roman knack can please so well?<br> 
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=LzXgAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA338&dq=martial%20everywhere%20nowhere&pg=PA319#v=onepage&q=xxx&f=false">Fletcher</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You grant your favours to Parthians, you grant them to Germans, you grant them, Caelia, to Dacians, and you do not spurn the couch of Cilicians and Cappadocians; and for you from his Egyptian city comes sailing the gallant of Memphis, and the black Indian from the Red Sea; nor do you shun the lecheries of circumcised Jews, and the Alan on his Sarmatian steed does not pass you by. What is your reason that, although you are a Roman girl, no Roman lewdness has attraction for you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=w4ZfAAAAMAAJ&vq=xxx&pg=PA443#v=snippet&q=xxx&f=false">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Caelia, you love a Teuton swain,<br>
An Asiatic stirs your pity,<br>
For you swart Indians cross the main,<br>
<span class="tab">Copts flock to you from Pharos' city.<br>
A Jew, a Scythian cavalier,<br>
Can please you -- but I can't discover<br>
Why you, a Roman, are austere<br>
<span class="tab">To none except a Roman lover.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/g/genpub/AFE5993.0001.001/228?rgn=full+text;view=image;q1=xxx">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You give your favors to Parthians, you given them to Germans, Caelia, you give them to Dacians, nor do you despise the beds of Cilicians and Cappadocians; and to you comes sailing the fornicator of Memphis from his Pharian city and the black Indian from the Red Sea. Nor do you shun the loins of circumcised Jews nor does the Alan pass you by with his Sarmatian horse. Why is it, sinc eyou are a Roman girl, that no Roman cock is to your liking?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You do Germans, and Parthians, and Dacians, Caelia,<br>
you don’t scorn Cappadocian, Cilician beds;<br>
and fuckers from Memphis, that Pharian city,<br>
and Red Sea’s black Indians sail towards you.<br>
You’d not flee the thighs of a circumcised Jew,<br>
not an Alan goes by, with Sarmatian horse too.<br>
What’s the reason, then, since you are a Roman,<br>
not one Roman member pleases you, woman?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798978:~:text=You%20do%20Germans,pleases%20you%2C%20woman%3F">Kline</a> (2006), "Hard to Please"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Barbarian hordes <i>en masse</i> you fuck,<br>
<span class="tab">Odd types into your bed you tuck.<br>
You take on blacks and Asian forces,<br>
<span class="tab">And Jews, and soldiers, and their horses.<br>
Yet you, voracious Roman chick,<br>
<span class="tab">Have never known a Roman dick.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=13X80r3_zQIC&lpg=PT15&ots=255W3rqbYV&dq=%22Odd%20types%20into%20your%20bed%20you%20tuck%22&pg=PT15#v=onepage&q=%22Odd%20types%20into%20your%20bed%20you%20tuck%22&f=false">Wills</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You sleep with Germans, Parthians, and Dacians;<br>
Cilicians and Cappadocians get a screw;<br>
a Memphian fucker sails to you from Pharos;<br>
<span class="tab">a coal-black Indian from the Red Sea, too.<br>
You don't shun the pricks of circumcised Judeans;<br>
a Scythian on his horse won't pass you buy.<br>
Since you're a roman girl, why is it, Caelia,<br>
<span class="tab">you won't give any Roman cock a try?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/58/mode/2up?q=Germans">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You grant your favours, Caelia, to all races -- <br>
<span class="tab">Parthians, Germans, Dacians share your graces.<br>
Cilicians, Cappadocians in your bed be,<br>
<span class="tab">And even a swarthy Indian from the Red Sea!<br>
From Egypt's Memphis one sails to your door,<br>
<span class="tab">And Jews, though circumcised, you'll not ignore,<br>
And that's not all! On his Samartian steed<br>
<span class="tab">No Scythian ever passed your door at speed.<br>
You are a Roman girl, so tell me true,<br>
<span class="tab">Do Roman weapons have no charms for you?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22sharp+vinegar+improves+the+appetite%22&pg=PA269&printsec=frontcover">Pitt-Kethley</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You'll fuck a Frog, a Kraut, a Jew,<br>
<span class="tab">A Gippo, a Brit, a Pakki too;<br>
Niggers and Russkies all go in your stew<br>
<span class="tab">But my prick's a Wop -- Caelia, fuck you!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=kraut">Sullivan</a>]</blockquote><br>

For more detailed commentary on the explicitly sexual nature of the epigram, see <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=QTfjPEC4g6UC&lpg=PP1&dq=Gal%C3%A1n%20Vioque%20martial&pg=PA214#v=onepage&q=30&f=false">Vioque</a>, <em>Epigrammaton Liber VII</em>.

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  43 (7.43) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best you can do is grant my demand, Your second-best course to refuse it off-hand; I welcome assent and denial excuse &#8212; But, Cinna, you neither consent nor refuse. [Primum est ut praestes, si quid te, Cinna, rogabo; illud deinde sequens, ut cito, Cinna, neges. Diligo praestantem; no odi, Cinna, negantem: sed tu nec [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best you can do is grant my demand,<br />
<span class="tab">Your second-best course to refuse it off-hand;<br />
I welcome assent and denial excuse &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">But, Cinna, you neither consent nor refuse.</p>
<p><em>[Primum est ut praestes, si quid te, Cinna, rogabo;<br />
illud deinde sequens, ut cito, Cinna, neges.<br />
Diligo praestantem; no odi, Cinna, negantem:<br />
sed tu nec praestas nec cito, Cinna, negas.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  43 (7.43) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/210/mode/2up?q=%22best+you+can+do%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Epigrams_of_Martial/n3lfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Primum%20est%20ut%20praestes%22&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover">Source (Latin)</a>. Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>My iust demands soone graunt or soone deny,<br>
Th' one friendship showes, and th' other curtesie.<br>
But who nor soon doth graunt, nor soone say noe,<br>
Doth not true friendship, nor good manners know.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22my+iust+demands%22">Davison</a> (1602)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The first love, Cinna, is to grant what I<br>
<span class="tab">Request; the second quickly to deny.<br>
I love the one, the other hate not I;<br>
<span class="tab">But thou nor grant'st, nor quickly dost deny.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.87?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 7.42]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The kindest thing of all is to comply;<br>
<span class="tab">The next kind thing is quickly to deny:<br>
I love performance; nor denial hate:<br>
<span class="tab">Your "Shall I, Shall I?" is the cursed state.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA87&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22kindest%20thing%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>To grant must doubtless be the primal boon:<br>
<span class="tab">The next, my Cinna, to deny me soon.<br>
I love the former, nor the latter hate:<br>
<span class="tab">But thou not grantest, and deniest late.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA235&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22to%20deny%20me%20soon%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 5, ep. 53]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The greatest favour that you can do me, Cinna, if I ask anything of you, is to give it me; the next, Cinna, to refuse it at once. I love one who gives, Cinna; I do not hate one who refuses; but you, Cinna, neither give nor refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22greatest%20favour%20that%20you%20can%20do%20me%22&pg=PA324&printsec=frontcover">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, grant me my request:<br>
(I warmly hope you'll choose to!)<br>
Or do what I think second best,<br>
<span class="tab">In haste refuse to.<br>
Patrons I esteem, nor hate<br>
The man I can't bamboozle:<br>
But you give naught, yet make me wait<br>
<span class="tab">A slow refusal.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22grant+me+my+request%22">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The first thing is that you should hand it over if I ask anything of you, Cinna; the next thing after that, Cinna, is that you should refuse quickly. I like a man who hands over; I do not hate, Cinna, a man who refuses; but you neither hand over, nor do you, Cinna, quickly refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20first%20thing%22&pg=PA453&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis best to grant me, Cinna, what I crave;<br>
<span class="tab">And next best, Cinna, is refusal straight.<br>
Givers I like: refusal I can brave;<br>
<span class="tab">But you don't give -- you only hesitate!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=%27Tis%20best%20to%20grant,give%E2%80%94you%20only%20hesitate!">Duff</a> (1929)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Cinna, the best thing would be if you lent<br>
Me anything I asked for. The next best<br>
<span class="tab">Would be for you to say no then and there.<br>
I like good givers, and I don't resent<br>
A straight refusal of a small request.<br>
<span class="tab">It's ditherers like you that I can't bear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/94/mode/2up?q=cinna">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Best is that you give me anything I ask, Cinna; next best, Cinna, is that you refuse promptly. I like a man who gives; I don't hate a man who refuses, Cinna. But you, Cinna, neither give nor promptly refuse.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Cinna, to give me what I ask is best;<br>
next best is to refuse without delay.<br>
I love a giver, don't resent refusers.<br>
<span class="tab">You neither give nor tell me no straightway.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/58/mode/2up?q=%22ask+is+best%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>


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		<description><![CDATA[One house upon the Esquiline, One where patricians dwell, And hard beside Diana’s shrine You have a third as well. You live near mournful Cybele, You’ve Vesta’s fane in view; Jove’s ancient temple you can see. You look upon the new. With seven dwellings I despair To find you when I call, He who has [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One house upon the Esquiline,<br />
<span class="tab">One where patricians dwell,<br />
And hard beside Diana’s shrine<br />
<span class="tab">You have a third as well.<br />
You live near mournful Cybele,<br />
<span class="tab">You’ve Vesta’s fane in view;<br />
Jove’s ancient temple you can see.<br />
<span class="tab">You look upon the new.<br />
With seven dwellings I despair<br />
To find you when I call,<br />
<span class="tab">He who has mansions everywhere<br />
<span class="tab">Has not a home at all.</p>
<p><em>[Esquiliis domus est, domus est tibi colle Dianae,<br />
Et tua patricius culmina vicus habet;<br />
Hinc viduae Cybeles, illinc sacraria Vestae,<br />
Inde novum, veterem prospicis inde Iovem.<br />
Dic, ubi conveniam, dic, qua te parte requiram:<br />
Quisquis ubique habitat, Maxime, nusquam habitat.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  73 (7.73) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/218/mode/2up?q=maximus
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.73">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou has a house on the Aventine hill,<br>
<span class="tab">Another where Diana's worshipped still,<br>
In the Patrician street more of them stand,<br>
<span class="tab">Hence thou beholdst within thine eyes, command<br>
The widowed Cybells, thence Vesta with all,<br>
<span class="tab">There either Jove earth'd in the Capitol.<br>
Where shall I meet thee? tell, where wilt appear?<br>
<span class="tab">He dwells just nowhere, that dwells everywhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dwells%20just%20nowhere%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>On Esquiline, and on Diana's hill,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou hast abodes thou not pretend'st to fill.<br>
But city-sites can ne'er suffice thy state:<br>
<span class="tab">Thou far from town must tow'r among the great:<br>
Hence Cybele's, thence Vesta's fane behold;<br>
<span class="tab">Here the new Jupiter, and there the old.<br>
Where shall I meet thee? who they mansion tells?<br>
<span class="tab">Who e'vrywhere inhabits, nowhere dwells.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22nowhere%20dwells%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 1, ep. 10]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You possess a house at Esquiliae, and one on the hill of Diana; and the street of Patricians amongst its roofs reckons yours. From one of your houses you behold the temple of Cybele, from another that of Vesta; you command a view both of the ancient and modern capitol. Say, where shall I meet with you? At what place shall I ask for you? Maximus! he who lives everywhere lives nowhere. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/132/mode/2up?q=maximus">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 103]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>You have a mansion on the Esquiline hill, and a mansion on the hill of Diana; and another rears its head in the Patricians' quarter. From one of your dwellings you behold the temple of the widowed Cybele, from another that of Vesta; from others you look on the old and the new Capitol. Tell me where I may meet you; tell me whereabouts I am to look for you: a man who lives everywhere, Maximus, lives nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=You%20have%20a%20mansion,everywhere%2C%20Maximus%2C%20lives%20nowhere.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>He has no home whose home is all the world.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22whose%20home%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>On the Esquiline you have a house, you have a house on Diana's hill, and the Patrician Street holds a roof of yours; from this you survey the shrine of widowed Cybele, from that the shrine of Vesta; from here the new, from there the ancient temple of Jove. Say where I amy call upon you, say in what quarter I may look for you: he who lives everywhere, Maximus, lives nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22On%20the%20Esquiline%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The Esquiline and Aventine are yours<br>
<span class="tab">And the Patrician Street confronts your doors;<br>
Thence widowed Cybele and Vesta's fire<br>
<span class="tab">And ancient Jove and modern you admire.<br>
Where shall I meet you, wither, pray, repair?<br>
<span class="tab">He has no home who lodges everywhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22esquiline%20and%20aventine%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 372]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>That's a fine lace you have on Beacon Hill, Max,<br>
and that unlisted duplex out Huntington Avenue,<br>
and the old homestead in Tewksbury.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">From one you can see<br>
the big gilt dome; the second<br>
gives you an uninterrupted ecstatic view<br>
of the Mother Church; the third<br>
commands the County Poorhouse.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">And you<br>
invite me to dinner?<br>
<span class="tab">There?<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">There?<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Or there?<br>
Max, a man who lives everywhere<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">lives nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/314/mode/2up?q=%22beacon+hill%22">Fitts</a> (1967), "... Are Many Mansions"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You have one home on the Esquiline,<br>
<span class="tab">Another on the Aventine,<br>
And from a third one you can see<br>
<span class="tab">The shrine of widowed Cybele.<br>
From still another you've a view<br>
<span class="tab">Of both the temples, old and new,<br>
Of Jupiter, In fact, a home<br>
<span class="tab">Of yours lies everywhere in Rome!<br>
Where can I find you when in town?<br>
<span class="tab">At what address can you be found?<br>
He who lives all over Rome<br>
<span class="tab">Never can be found at home.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22have+one+home%22">Marcellino</a> (1968), "A Far-Flung Friend"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>A house on the Esquiline --<br>
and one on the Aventine --<br>
Patricius Street claims another rooftop of yours<br>
over here you have a shrine on the widowed Great Mother<br>
over there is your sacred hearth of Vesta<br>
elsewhere you display a new bust of Jove<br>
elsewhere a bust of Veiovis.<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Can you tell me, Maximus,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">where to meet you,<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">where to find you at home?<br>
Someone<br>
<span class="tab">who<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">lives<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">everywhere<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">lives<br>
Nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/122/mode/2up?q=%22house+on+the+esquiline%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You have a house on the Esquiline, and a house on Diana's hill, and Patrician Row has a roof of yours. From one you view the shrine of bereaved Cybele, from another that of Vesta, and from this Jupiter's new temple, from that the old one. Tell me where I am to meet you, in what quarter to look for you. Who lives everywhere, Maximus, lives nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You’ve a house on the Esquiline, house on the Aventine,<br>
and Patrician Street owns a roof of yours too;<br>
add one with a view of poor Cybele’s shrine,<br>
<span class="tab">one Vesta’s, one Jupiter’s old, one his new.<br>
Tell me where to meet you, tell me where to find you:<br>
Who lives everywhere, Maximus, lives nowhere at all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798989:~:text=You%E2%80%99ve%20a%20house,nowhere%20at%20all.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Birds of the air know<br>
the man with a house everywhere<br>
has a home nowhere.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/50/mode/2up?q=+home">Kennelly</a> (2008), "A geography"]</blockquote><br>



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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  76 (7.76) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Toady&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To feasts and theatres you love to go With men of rank and, when you chance to meet. To lounge with them about a portico Or street. They let you bathe and dine with them, but what Your dullard pride will never comprehend Is that you are their mountebank, and not Their friend. [Quod te [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To feasts and theatres you love to go<br />
<span class="tab">With men of rank and, when you chance to meet.<br />
To lounge with them about a portico<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Or street.<br />
They let you bathe and dine with them, but what<br />
<span class="tab">Your dullard pride will never comprehend<br />
Is that you are their mountebank, and not<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Their friend.</p>
<p><em>[Quod te diripiunt potentiores<br />
Per convivia, porticus, theatra,<br />
Et tecum, quotiens ita incidisti,<br />
Gestari iuvat et iuvat lavari:<br />
Nolito nimium tibi placere.<br />
Delectas, Philomuse, non amaris.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  76 (7.76) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Toady&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/220/mode/2up?q=%22the+toady%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.76">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>That great men court thee every where,<br>
<span class="tab">At feasts, and at the Theater,<br>
And would, as oft as well may bee,<br>
<span class="tab">Walk, bathe, or take the ayre with thee;<br>
Doe not admire thy selfe for it.<br>
<span class="tab">Tis not their love, but their delight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.90?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 7.75]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>When dukes to town ask thee to dine,<br>
<span class="tab">To rule their roast, and smack their wine,<br>
Or take thee to their country-seat,<br>
<span class="tab">To mark their dogs, and bless their meat,<br>
Ah! dream not on preferment soon:<br>
<span class="tab">Thou'rt not their friend, but their buffoon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All the great men take you away<br>
<span class="tab">To dinner, coffee-house, or play.<br>
Nor happier are, than when you chance<br>
<span class="tab">To hunt with them, or take a dance.<br>
Yet do not pride yourself too soon:<br>
<span class="tab">You're not a friend, but a buffoon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22great%20men%20take%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thee the great may tear away<br>
<span class="tab">To the banquet, porch, or play;<br>
And with thee may make their pride,<br>
<span class="tab">Or to talk, or bathe, or ride.<br>
Yet thou may'st mistake with ease.<br>
<span class="tab">Thou delight'st; but dost not please.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22iv.%20to%20philomusus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 7, ep. 4]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That men of rank take you along with them almost by force to their banquets, to porticos, and theatres; and that when they meet you they have pleasure in carrying you in their vehicles, and going along with you to the same baths; -- let not this puff you up with self-satisfaction, Philomusus; all this is because you are entertaining, not because you are beloved. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/110/mode/2up?q=philomusus">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though the great hurry you off to their banquets, and walks in the porticoes, and to the theatres; and though they are delighted, whenever you meet them, to make you share their litters, and to bathe with you, do not be too vain of such attentions. You entertain them, Philomusus; you are not an object of their regard.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=Though%20the%20great,of%20their%20regard.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Because men of influence vie in hurrying you off to entertainments, colonnades, theatres, and enjoy, whenever you happen to meet them, being carried in litters with you and enjoy bathing with you, by no means fancy yourself too much. You entertain them, Philomusus, you are not loved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22them%20philomusus%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If important people compete for your company at dinner tables an din the colonnades and theaters and like to ride with you and bathe with you as often as you turn up, don't get too conceited. It's your company they like, Philomusus, not you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993): literally, "you give them pleasure, you are not loved."]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich folk ask you out to dine,<br>
<span class="tab">Or ride with them, or drink their wine,<br>
Or take a bath, or just hang out --<br>
<span class="tab">Now Philomusus, please don't pout --<br>
You only <i>entertain</i> their crew:<br>
<span class="tab">They're really not so into <i>you.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If powerful men take you up,<br>
at meals, theatres, and porticos,<br>
like riding and bathing with you,<br>
wherever you happen to go,<br>
don’t be too proud, Philomusus:<br>
you give pleasure, it isn’t love.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798990">Kline</a> (2006), "The Reality"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If powerful men -- at banquets, porticoes, <br>
<span class="tab">and plays -- compete to have you by their side; <br>
if every time they meet you, they’re delighted <br>
<span class="tab">to offer you a hot bath or a ride; <br>
don’t get too vain about it, Philomusus. <br>
<span class="tab">They love not you, but pleasure you provide.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22if+powerful+men%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

See Ben Jonson, "<a href="https://hollowaypages.com/jonson1692epigrams.htm#:~:text=X%20X%20X.-,To%20Mime,-.">To Mime</a>," which ends, "Men love thee not for this: They laugh at thee."




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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  81 (7.81) (AD 92) [tr. Marcellino (1968)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some thirty poems in the book Are poor, you say. Egad! If you&#8217;ve found thirty good ones, too, The book is great, not bad. [&#8216;Triginta toto mala sunt epigrammata libro.&#8217; Si totidem bona sunt, Lause, bonus liber est.] &#8220;To Lausus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Thou thirty epigrams dost note for bad: Call my book good [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thirty poems in the book<br />
<span class="tab">Are poor, you say. Egad!<br />
If you&#8217;ve found thirty good ones, too,<br />
<span class="tab">The book is great, not bad.</p>
<p><em>[&#8216;Triginta toto mala sunt epigrammata libro.&#8217;<br />
Si totidem bona sunt, Lause, bonus liber est.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  81 (7.81) (AD 92) [tr. Marcellino (1968)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22to+lausus%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Lausus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.81">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou thirty epigrams dost note for bad:<br>
Call my book good if thirty good it had.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bohn%27s%20classical%20library%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For thirty bad epigrams here you may look:<br>
If as many good ones, it is a good book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 7]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In this whole book there are thirty bad epigrams; if there as many good ones, Lausus, the book is good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bohn%27s%20classical%20library%22">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Take all your book, and there are thirty bad epigrams in it." If as many are good, Lausus, the book is a good one.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22thirty%20bad%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You’ve read my poems and condemn <br>
<span class="tab">Some thirty, so you say, of them: <br>
The book’s a good one I submit,<br>
<span class="tab">If there are thirty good in it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/220/mode/2up?q=proportions">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Proportions"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"There are thirty bad epigrams<br>
<span class="tab">in your book, at least."<br>
If there are that many good ones,<br>
<span class="tab">Lausus, I'll be pleased.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/82/mode/2up?q=thirty">Bovie</a> (1970), mislabeled 7.18]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"There are thirty bad epigrams in the whole book." If there as many good ones, Lausus, it's a good book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Your book as thirty epigrams unneeded."<br>
I've only thirty clunkers? I've succeeded.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=thirty">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"In this book, thirty poems are bad," you state.<br>
Lausus, if thirty are good, the book is great.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22thirty+poems%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  85 (7.85) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your few quatrains are not amiss, Your couplets too are neat; for this You earn a mild regard, But little fame, for many men Can write good verses now and then &#8212; To make a book is hard. [Quod non insulse scribis tetrasticha quaedam, Disticha quod belle pauca, Sabelle, facis, Laudo, nec admiror. Facile est [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your few quatrains are not amiss,<br />
Your couplets too are neat; for this<br />
<span class="tab">You earn a mild regard,<br />
But little fame, for many men<br />
Can write good verses now and then &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">To make a book is hard.</p>
<p><em>[Quod non insulse scribis tetrasticha quaedam,<br />
Disticha quod belle pauca, Sabelle, facis,<br />
Laudo, nec admiror. Facile est epigrammata belle<br />
Scribere, sed librum scribere difficile est.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  85 (7.85) (AD 92) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/222/mode/2up?q=sabellus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Sabellus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.85">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Cause thou dost pen <i>Tetrasticks</i> clean and sweet<br>
And some few pretty disticks with smooth feet,<br>
<span class="tab">I praise but not admire:<br>
<span class="tab">Tis easy to acquire<br>
Short modest Epigrams that pretty look,<br>
But it is hard and tough to write a book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/76/mode/2up?q=%22cause+thou+dost+pen%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That some tetrasticks not amiss you write,<br>
<span class="tab">Or some few disticks prettyly indite,<br>
I like, but not admire. With small paynes tooke<br>
<span class="tab">An epigram is writ; but not a booke.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=tetrasticks">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some not absurd tetrastichs thou may'st squeeze;<br>
<span class="tab">And distichs, that can scarce deny to please.<br>
I praise, yet not admire: a verse to cook<br>
<span class="tab">Is no hard task; but canst thou write a book?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22liv%20to%20sabellus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 54]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For sometimes writing quatrains which are not devoid of humour, Sabellus, and for composing a few distichs prettily, I commend you; but I am not astonished at you. It is easy to write a few epigrams prettily; but to write a book of them is difficult.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=For%20sometimes%20writing%20quatrains%20which%20are%20not%20devoid%20of%20humour%2C%20Sabellus%2C%20and%20for%20composing%20a%20few%20distichs%20prettily%2C%20I%20commend%20you%3B%20but%20I%20am%20not%20astonished%20at%20you.%20It%20is%20easy%20to%20write%20a%20few%20epigrams%20prettily%3B%20but%20to%20write%20a%20book%20of%20them%20is%20difficult.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your writing, not without wit, certain quatrains, your composing nicely a few distichs, Sabellus, I applaud, yet am not surprised. 'Tis easy to write epigrams nicely, but to write a book is hard.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22certain%20quatrains%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The fact that you can write with taste<br>
<span class="tab">A quatrain now and then<br>
And even several couplets too<br>
<span class="tab">Is something I do commend,<br>
But I'm not amazed, for after all<br>
<span class="tab">A few epigrams smart and neat<br>
Are easy to write, but a bookful of them<br>
<span class="tab">Is quite another feat!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/88/mode/2up?q=sabellus">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>That you write some quatrains not without wit and turn a few couplets prettily, Sabellus, is something I praise but do not wonder at. It's easy to write epigrams prettily, but to write a book is hard.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A quatrain here, a couplet there,<br>
<span class="tab">Some decent rhymes, but let's be fair:<br>
Your output no great author shook;<br>
<span class="tab">It takes much more to fill a book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wrote some clever couplets?<br>
<span class="tab">"Take a look."<br>
These epigrams are fine --<br>
<span class="tab">but not a book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22clever%20couplets%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sabellus, that you write some witty quatrains <br>
<span class="tab">and craft some couplets well earns my regard, <br>
but no surprise. To write good epigrams <br>
<span class="tab">is easy, but to write a book is hard.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/60/mode/2up?q=%22sabellus+that+you%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  7, epigram  90 (7.90) (AD 92) [tr. McLean (2014)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matho alleges that my book&#8217;s uneven. He compliments my poems, if that&#8217;s true. Calvinus and Umber write consistent books. Consistent books are lousy through and through. [Iactat inaequalem Matho me fecisse libellum: Si verum est, laudat carmina nostra Matho. Aequales scribit libros Calvinus et Umber: Aequalis liber est, Cretice, qui malus est.] &#8220;To Creticus&#8221; (Source [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matho alleges that my book&#8217;s uneven.<br />
<span class="tab">He compliments my poems, if that&#8217;s true.<br />
Calvinus and Umber write consistent books.<br />
<span class="tab">Consistent books are lousy through and through.</p>
<p><em>[Iactat inaequalem Matho me fecisse libellum:<br />
Si verum est, laudat carmina nostra Matho.<br />
Aequales scribit libros Calvinus et Umber:<br />
Aequalis liber est, Cretice, qui malus est.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  7, epigram  90 (7.90) (AD 92) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=matho%20alleges&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Creticus" (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:7.90">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Matho objects, my books unequal are;<br>
<span class="tab">If he says true, he praises ere aware.<br>
Calvin and Umber write an equal strain:<br>
<span class="tab">Naught is the book that's free from heights, and plain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22matho%20exults%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My book is unequal, a Matho may boast.<br>
<span class="tab">So saying, he knows not he cries it up most.<br>
Books equal a Calvin and Umber did write;<br>
<span class="tab">But equally penn'd in poor Pallasses spite.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22matho%20may%20boast%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 15]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho exults that I have produced a book full of inequalities; if this be true, Matho only commends my verses. Books without inequalities are produced by Calvinus and Umber. A book that is all bad, Creticus, may be all equality.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book07.htm#:~:text=Matho%20exults%20that%20I%20have%20produced%20a%20book%20full%20of%20inequalities%3B%20if%20this%20be%20true%2C%20Matho%20only%20commends%20my%20verses.%20Books%20without%20inequalities%20are%20produced%20by%20Calvinus%20and%20Umber.%20A%20book%20that%20is%20all%20bad%2C%20Creticus%2C%20may%20be%20all%20equality.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I've writ, says Matho, an uneven book:<br>
If that be true, then Matho lauds my verse.<br>
Umber writes evenly, Calvinus too;<br>
For even books, to be sure, are always bad.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22says%20Matho%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Matho puts it abroad that I have composed an unequal book; if that is true, Matho praises my poems. Equal books are what Calvinus and Umber write: the equal book, Creticus, is the bad one.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/w4ZfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22matho%20praises%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My work's uneven, you protest<br>
And sometimes falls beneath my best;<br>
<span class="tab">A compliment, say I:<br>
Dull bards on level planes that grope<br>
Shall never err -- or soar -- with Pope,<br>
<span class="tab">Although they shine with Pye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/224/mode/2up?q=%22the+dull+level%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Dull Level"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I write unequal verse, so Matho says;<br>
If it be true his criticism's a praise.<br>
Try Umber, Cluveienus by that test:<br>
No, Creticus; bad's bad; good seldom best.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22so%20matho%20says%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #382]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho exults and crows my book's uneven.<br>
<span class="tab">If that is true, he praises me. I'm glad.<br>
Calvinus and Umber write books that are even.<br>
<span class="tab">Even books are books that are all bad.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/88/mode/2up?q=%22to+creticus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho's mad,<br>
upset,<br>
says my book <br>
is unfair.<br>
That's good,<br>
I'm  glad:<br>
fair books <br>
are dull books.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/328/mode/2up">Goertz</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho spreads the word that I have made an uneven book. If so, Matho praises my poems. Calvinus adn Umber write even books. An even book, Creticus, is a bad book.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho says my book's uneven.<br>
<span class="tab">He thinks he's quite the joker.<br>
I'd rather have both highs and lows,<br>
<span class="tab">Than just be mediocre.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho's one-word review of my small book:<br>
<span class="tab">"Uneven." I'm supposed to get all shook!<br>
The scribblings of Calvinus and Umber<br>
<span class="tab">Are very "even" ... yet how they lumber.<br>
I swear to you, Creticus, I thank God<br>
<span class="tab">My gift is for being quite frankly "odd."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=Matho%27s%20one%2Dword,quite%20frankly%20%22odd.%22">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Dour Matho offers me a "mixed review,"<br>
<span class="tab">To which contentedly I answer, "Whew!"<br>
Most poets get reviews that are unmixed,<br>
<span class="tab">With every verse and stanza in them nixed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=matho">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Smootus says my book is uneven.<br>
I see this as praise of my work.<br>
A bad book is fat with unvarying quality.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=%22book%20is%20uneven%22">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Matho is crowing that I've "made an inconsistent book." If he's right, he's actually praising my poems. Calvinus and Umber write "consistent" books; if a book's "consistent," Creticus, it's consistently bad.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=matho%20is%20crowing">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  8, epigram  18 (8.18.9-10) (AD 94) [tr. Taylor (1657)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Land, gold, and trifles many give or lend,<br />
But he that stoops in fame is a rare friend. </p>
<p><em>[Aurum et opes et rura frequens donabit amicus:<br />
Qui velit ingenio cedere, rarus erit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram  18 (8.18.9-10) (AD 94) [tr. Taylor (1657)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://xtf.lib.virginia.edu/xtf/view?docId=chadwyck_ep/uvaGenText/tei/chep_1.1650.xml;chunk.id=d57;toc.depth=1;toc.id=d51;brand=default;query=%22Before%20thy%20fame%20mine%22#1" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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To a friend whom Martial considered as good or better an writer, who in turn publicly lauded Martial as the superior.<br><br>

"To Cirinius." (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D8%3Apoem%3D18#:~:text=Aurum%20et%20opes,rarus%20erit.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Friends oft to friends in other points submit;<br>
Few yield the glory of the field in wit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22friends%20oft%20to%20friends%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A friend will oft bestow gold, goods, or ground:<br>
But who his wit will yield, is rarely found.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20friend%20will%20oft%22">Elphinston</a> (1782); Book 2, ep. 103]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is not uncommon for one friend to bestow on another good and land, but to make concessions of literary pre-eminence is a rare proof of friendship.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/18/mode/2up?q=%22ep.+xviii.%22">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gold, and wealth, and estates, many a friend will bestow; one who consents to yield the palm in genius, is rare.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=Gold%2C%20and%20wealth%2C%20and%20estates%2C%20many%20a%20friend%20will%20bestow%3B%20one%20who%20consents%20to%20yield%20the%20palm%20in%20genius%2C%20is%20rare.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gold and possessions and lands many a friend will bestow: he who is willing to yield in genius will be rare.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22gold%20and%20possessions%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Full many a friend will give you wealth and fields; <br>
But rare is he who thus in genius yields.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/238/mode/2up?q=%22Full+many+a+friend%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Gold, wealth, estates will many a man resign<br>
To save a friend, but few the bay divine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22gold%20wealth%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #400]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Many a friend will give gold and riches and land, but one prepared to yield in talent will be found but seldom.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Some friends will give up goods or yield their gold.<br>
But few will let their own worth go untold.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22yield%20their%20gold%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A friend will often give gold, wealth, and ground:<br>
one who will yield in talent's rarely found.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22gold+wealth%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[You write two hundred lines a day, but don&#8217;t recite. Varus, you are wise, if none too bright. [Cum facias versus nulla non luce ducenos, Vare, nihil recitas. Non sapis, atque sapis.] &#8220;To Varus.&#8221; See also 2.88. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Each day you make two hundred verses, sott, But none recite: you&#8217;re wise, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write two hundred lines a day, but don&#8217;t recite.<br />
<span class="tab">Varus, you are wise, if none too bright.</p>
<p><em>[Cum facias versus nulla non luce ducenos,<br />
Vare, nihil recitas. Non sapis, atque sapis.]</em></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram  20 (8.20) (AD 94) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/64/mode/2up?q=varus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Varus." See also <a href="https://wist.info/martial/59706/">2.88</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:8.20">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Each day you make two hundred verses, sott,<br>
But none recite: you're wise, and you are nott.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22two%20hundred%20verses%20sott%22">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You make two hundred verses in a trice;<br>
But publish none: -- The man is mad and wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22make%20two%20hundred%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You countless verses pen, each morn you rise;<br>
Yet none recite: how witty, and how wise!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22countless%20verses%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 8]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though you write two hundred verses every day, Varus, you recite nothing in public. You are unwise, and yet you are wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=Though%20you%20write%20two%20hundred%20verses%20every%20day%2C%20Varus%2C%20you%20recite%20nothing%20in%20public.%20You%20are%20unwise%2C%20and%20yet%20you%20are%20wise.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Varus writes facile verse and keeps it mum.<br>
He's weakly garrulous, and wisely dumb.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/276/mode/2up?q=%22varus+writes+facile%22">Street</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Every day Varus writes<br>
<span class="tab">Scores of verses, I've heard:<br>
But he never recites.<br>
<span class="tab">He's both wise and absurd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/66/mode/2up?q=varus">Nixon</a> (1911), "The Wisest Fool"] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although no day passes but you compose two hundred verses, Varus, you recite none of them. You have no wit -- and yet are wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22no%20day%20passes%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You write a hundred lines a day?<br>
<span class="tab">That means a crazy brain.<br>
And yet you publish none, you say; <br>
<span class="tab">That shows that you are sane.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/238/mode/2up?q=%22wise+fool%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Wise Fool"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Varus, two hundred lines each day that flies<br>
You write and burn. How foolish -- and how wise!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22two%20hundred%20lines%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 401]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you write two hundred lines<br>
<span class="tab">Of poetry each day,<br>
You shun our constant plea to let us<br>
<span class="tab">Hear your poetry.<br>
Two hundred verses every day,<br>
<span class="tab">And I, with luck, one line!<br>
You can't be good, though very good<br>
<span class="tab">Of you, sir, to decline!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/92/mode/2up?q=varus">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although you make two hundred verses every day, Varus, you never recite. You are a fool, and you are no fool.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He turns out verses by the ton,<br>
<span class="tab">But never publishes a one.<br>
He is too dumb to be a poet,<br>
<span class="tab">But wise enough in fact to know it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%228.20%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Though Varus daily sits and writes --<br>
<span class="tab">Two hundred lines! -- he neither tries<br>
To publish verses nor recites.<br>
<span class="tab">He's not too witty, but he's wise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22varus%20daily%22">Barth</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[You lead such matching, equal lives &#8212; the worst of husband, worst of wives &#8212; that it&#8217;s a mystery to me why you aren&#8217;t suited perfectly. [Cum sitis similes paresque vita, Uxor pessima, pessimus maritus, Miror, non bene convenire vobis.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: When as you are so like in life, A wicked husband, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lead such matching, equal lives &#8212;<br />
the worst of husband, worst of wives &#8212;<br />
that it&#8217;s a mystery to me<br />
why you aren&#8217;t suited perfectly.</p>
<p><em>[Cum sitis similes paresque vita,<br />
Uxor pessima, pessimus maritus,<br />
Miror, non bene convenire vobis.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram  35 (8.35) (AD 94) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/66/mode/2up?q=%22equal+lives%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:8.35">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>When as you are so like in life,<br>
A wicked husband, wicked wife,<br>
I wonder you should live in strife.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20are%20so%20well%20matched%22">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Sith that you both are like in life,<br>
<span class="tab">(a naughty man, an wicked wife:)<br>
I muse ye live not voyd of strife.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/10/mode/2up?q=%22sith+that+you%22">Kendall</a> (1577), "To a Married Couple, that could not Agree"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why doe your wife and you so ill agree,<br>
Since you in manners so well matched be?<br>
Thou brazen-fac'd, she impudently bould,<br>
Thou still dost brawle, she evermoure doth scould.<br>
Thou seldome sober art, she often drunk,<br>
Thou a whore hunting knave, she a knowne Punck.<br>
Both of you filch, both seare, and damme, and lie,<br>
And both take pawnes, and <i>Iewish</i> usurie.<br>
<span class="tab">Not manners like make man and wife agree,<br>
<span class="tab">Their manners must both like and vertuous bee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/24/mode/2up?q=%22Why+doe+your+wife%22">Davison</a> (1602)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Both man and wife as bad as bad can be:<br>
I wonder they no better should agree.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial+epigrams+hay&printsec=frontcover">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O peerless pair, so like in life,<br>
O vilest husband, vilest wife!<br>
No wonder ye agree -- in strife.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22married%20pair%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), "To a Married Pair," Book 6, Part 2, ep. 46]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Alike in temper and in life,<br>
A drunken husband, sottish wife,<br>
She a scold, a bully he, --<br>
The devil's in 't they don't agree.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C), §243]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Since you are so well matched, and so much alike in your lives, a very bad wife, and a very bad husband, I wonder that you do not agree.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=Since%20you%20are%20so%20well%20matched%2C%20and%20so%20much%20alike%20in%20your%20lives%2C%20a%20very%20bad%20wife%2C%20and%20a%20very%20bad%20husband%2C%20I%20wonder%20that%20you%20do%20not%20agree.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859), "To a Bad Couple"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are so like, so equal, in your life,<br>
A husband of the worst, a worthless wife,<br>
I really wonder why you don't agree.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22so%20like%20so%20equal%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Seeing that you are like one another, and a pair in your habits, vilest of wives, vilest of husbands, I wonder you don't agree!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22like%20one%20another%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is very strange, as it seems to me,<br>
That you and your wife should not agree, <br>
Since each is as vile as vile can be.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/242/mode/2up?q=%22It+is+very+strange%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Depth to Depth"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bad wife, bad husband, like as pea to pea,<br>
I really wonder that you can't agree.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 412]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since you're alike and lead a matching life,<br>
Horrible husband and ill-natured wife,<br>
Why all the discord and domestic strife?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/104/mode/2up?q=%22matching+life%22">Michie</a> (1972)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since the two of you are alike and equal in your way of life, a rotten wife and a rotten husband, I am surprised you don't suit one another.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're an awful couple, <br>
but birds of a feather --<br>
It's weird you don't<br>
Get along together.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>How can your squabbling be so curst?<br>
Of natural pairings yours is first --<br>
Worst husband with a wife that's worst.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since you two are similar and equal in your way of life, being an awful wife and an awful husband, I’m surprised you don’t get along well with each other.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://aleatorclassicus.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/martial-epigrams-8-35/">aleator classicus</a> (2012)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Since you both share the same approach to life<br>
(a lousy husband and a lousy wife),<br>
I am bewildered it<br>
is not a better fit.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2017/06/03/around-the-scuttlebutt-brief-poems-by-a-m-juster/#:~:text=Since%20you%20both%20share%20the%20same%20approach%20to%20life%0A(a%20lousy%20husband%20and%20a%20lousy%20wife)%2C%0AI%20am%20bewildered%20it%0Ais%20not%20a%20better%20fit.">Juster</a> (2016)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being good is better far than seeming so.</p>
<p><em>[Refert sis bonus, an velis videri.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 38 (8.38.7) (AD 94) [tr. Francis &#038; Tatum (1924), ep. 415] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22being%20good%20is%20better%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D8%3Apoem%3D38#:~:text=Refert%20sis%20bonus%2C%20an%20velis%20videri.">Source (Latin)</a>). Alternate translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>'Tis better bee, than seeme, good.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22wishes%20to%20seem%22">16th C Manuscript</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">'Tis not the same,<br>
To covet and to merit a good name.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20covet%20and%20to%20merit%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Bounteous to be, or seem; the distance wide!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22bounteous%20to%20be%22">Elphinston</a> (1782); Book 2, ep. 111]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It makes a difference whether a man is, or only wishes to seem, good.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=It%20makes%20a%20difference%20whether%20a%20man%20is%2C%20or%20only%20wishes%20to%20seem%2C%20good.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It matters much whether thou'rt truly good, or would'st appear so.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22matters%20much%20whether%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Wide is the difference 'twixt goodness and pretence. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22goodness%20and%20pretence%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>... the great gulf ’twixt goodness and pretence.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/244/mode/2up?q=%22goodness+and+pretence%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>There is a difference between goodness and pretence. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fabius buries all his wives: Chrestilla ends her husbands&#8217; lives. The torch which from the marriage-bed They brandish soon attends the dead. O Venus, link this conquering pair! Their match will meet with issue fair, Whereby for such a dangerous two A single funeral will do! [Effert uxores Fabius, Chrestilla maritos, funereamque toris quassat uterque [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabius buries all his wives:<br />
<span class="tab">Chrestilla ends her husbands&#8217; lives.<br />
The torch which from the marriage-bed<br />
<span class="tab">They brandish soon attends the dead.<br />
O Venus, link this conquering pair!<br />
<span class="tab">Their match will meet with issue fair,<br />
Whereby for such a dangerous <i>two</i><br />
<span class="tab">A single funeral will do!</p>
<p><em>[Effert uxores Fabius, Chrestilla maritos,<br />
funereamque toris quassat uterque facem.<br />
Victores committe, Venus: quos iste manebit<br />
exitus, una duos ut Libitina ferat.]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 43 (8.43) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=Fabius%20buries%20all,funeral%20will%20do!" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22effert%20uxores%22&pg=PA32&printsec=frontcover">Original Latin</a>. Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Five wives hath he dispatch'd, she husbands five:<br>
<span class="tab">By both alike the undertakers thrive.<br>
Venus assist! let them join hands in troth!<br>
<span class="tab">One common funeral, then, would serve them both.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fabius%20buries%22&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>While Tom and Dolly many mates<br>
<span class="tab">Do carry off ('tis said)<br>
Each shakes by turns (so will the Fates)<br>
<span class="tab">The Fun'ral torch in bed.<br>
Oh fie, ma'am, Venus, end this rout,<br>
<span class="tab">Commit them to the Fleet,<br>
And grant they may be carried out,<br>
<span class="tab">Both buried in one sheet.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsmartial00scotgoog/page/n50/mode/2up?q=%22many+mates%22">Scott</a> (1773)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Both Fabby and Chrestil know well how to bury<br>
<span class="tab">A consort, and with sable torch to make merry.<br>
Yoke, Venus, the victors; and, mutually loath,<br>
<span class="tab">Let one Libitana lay hold of them both.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA283&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22fabius%20and%20chrestilla%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 2, ep. 47]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabius buries his wives, Chrestilla her husbands; each shakes a funeral torch over the nuptial couch. Unite these conquerers, Venus, and the result will then be that Libitina will carry them both off together.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=Fabius%20buries%20his%20wives%2C%20Chrestilla%20her%20husbands%3B%20each%20shakes%20a%20funeral%20torch%20over%20the%20nuptial%20couch.%20Unite%20these%20conquerors%2C%20Venus%2C%20and%20the%20result%20will%20then%20be%20that%20Libitina%20will%20carry%20them%20both%20off%20together.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1860)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabius has buried all his wives;<br>
<span class="tab">Short are Chrestilla's husbands' lives.<br>
And 'tis a funeral torch this pair<br>
<span class="tab">Do, at their nuptials, wave in air.<br>
These conquerors, Venus, sure 'twere fit<br>
<span class="tab">Against each other now to pit:<br>
So shall such end await the two,<br>
<span class="tab">That for them both one bier may do.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/90/mode/2up?q=fabius">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Chrestilla has buried her husbands,<br>
<span class="tab">While Fabius has buried his wives;<br>
Since they're both sure to make<br>
Every marriage a wake,<br>
<span class="tab">Pray, Venus, unite their two lives.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/78/mode/2up?q=fabius">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabius buried his wives, Chrestilla her husbands, and each of them waves the funeral torch over a marriage-bed. Match the victors, Venus; this is the end that will await them -- one funeral to convey the pair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fabius%20buries%22&pg=PA33&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1920)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He poisons wives, she husbands by the dozen,<br>
<span class="tab">With Pluto's torch the marriage-bed they cozen.<br>
Unite them, Venus, in the marriage tether,<br>
<span class="tab">So death shall carry off the two together.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/244/mode/2up?q=%22poisons+wives%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Chrestilla lays her lords to rest, his ladies<br>
<span class="tab">Fabius, and ushers them with pomp to Hades.<br>
Kind Venus, match the winners. Then, I trust,<br>
<span class="tab">One funeral pyre will turn the pair to dust.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22chrestilla%20lays%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924) #420]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Chrestilla digs her husbands' graves,<br>
<span class="tab">Fabius buries his wives. Each waves,<br>
As bride or groom, the torch of doom<br>
<span class="tab">Over the marriage bed. Now pair<br>
<span class="tab">These finalists, Venus: let them share<br>
Victory in a single tomb.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/94/mode/2up?q=cinna">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabius buries his wives, Chrestilla her husbands; each of them brandishes a funeral torch over the marriage bed. Venus, match the winners; the end awaiting them will be one bier to carry the pair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They each took separate spouses to their bed,<br>
<span class="tab">Then swiftly to the graveyard each they led.<br>
Conjoining both their marriage feats,<br>
<span class="tab">They'll serve each other funeral meats.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=8.43">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabius buries his wives; Christella, her husbands.<br>
Each waves the funeral torch over the marriage bed.<br>
Dear Venus, arrange that this pair be engaged.<br>
<span class="tab">One coffin will be enough to contain the dead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/48/mode/2up?q=venus">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Partners"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Chrestilla buries husbands; Fabius wives.<br>
Each waves the funeral torch at the marriage bed.<br>
Pair up the winners, Venus. The result<br>
<span class="tab">will be that both will share a bier instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/66/mode/2up?q=chrestilla">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212; Only the poets dead are poets true! Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212; It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by you. [Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas. Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.] Original Latin. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacerra likes no bards but those of old &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">Only the poets dead are poets true!<br />
Really, Vacerra &#8212; may I make so bold? &#8212;<br />
<span class="tab">It&#8217;s not worth dying to be liked by <i>you.</i></p>
<p><em>[Miraris veteres, Vacerra, solos<br />
nec laudas nisi mortuos poetas.<br />
Ignoscas petimus, Vacerra: tanti<br />
non est, ut placeam tibi, perire.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 69 (8.69) (AD 94) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=vacerra%20likes%20no%20bards%20but%20those%20of%20old%E2%80%94%20only%20the%20poets%20dead%20are%20poets%20true!%20really%2C%20vacerra%E2%80%94may%20i%20make%20so%20bold%3F%E2%80%94%20it's%20not%20worth%20dying%20to%20be%20liked%20by%20you." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22miraris%20veteres%22&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover">Original Latin</a>. Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Vacerra, thou approv'st of none<br>
<span class="tab">For Poets, but are dead and gone.<br>
Pardon; for so much do not I<br>
<span class="tab">Esteeme thy praises as to dy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.104?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>I ask’t thee oft, what Poets thou hast read,<br>
<span class="tab">And lik'st the best? Still thou reply'st, The dead.<br>
I shall, ere long, with green turfs cover'd be;<br>
<span class="tab">Then sure thou't like, or thou wilt envie me.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22i+ask%27t+thee+oft%22&view=theater">Herrick</a> (1648)]<br></blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The ancients all your veneration have:<br>
<span class="tab">You like no poet on this side of the grave.<br>
Yet, pray, excuse me; if to pleases you, I<br>
<span class="tab">Can hardly think it worth my while to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22the%20ancients%20all%20your%20veneration%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vacerra! you admire only the ancients; your praise is restricted to the deceased poets. Pardon me, Vacerra, if I do not think your praise of so much value as to die for it. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Amos</a> (1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, only the poets of old, and praise only those who are dead. Pardon me, I beseech you, Vacerra, it I think death too high a price to pay for your praise.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=vacerra&pg=PA384&printsec=frontcover">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The ancients only you admire, Vacerra;<br>
No poet wins your favor till he dies.<br>
I ask your pardon, but I don't think your praise<br>
is worth so much that I will die for it.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22ask%20your%20pardon%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>You admire, Vacerra, the ancients alone, and praise none but dead poets. Your pardon, pray, Vacerra: it is not worth my while, merely to please you, to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22you%20admire%20vacerra%22&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You puff the poets of other days,<br>
<span class="tab">The living you deplore.<br>
Spare me the accolade: your praise<br>
<span class="tab">Is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20puff%20the,Dudley%20Fitts">Fitts</a> (1967)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Rigidly classical, you save<br>
<span class="tab">Your praise for poets in the grave.<br>
Forgive me, it's not worth my while<br>
<span class="tab">Dying to earn your critical smile.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22rigidly+classical%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You admire only the ancients, Vacerra, and praise no poets except dead ones. I crave your pardon, Vacerra; your good opinion is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>There are poets you praise,<br>
<span class="tab">But I notice they’re all dead.<br>
I’d rather find another way<br>
<span class="tab">to please you, friend, instead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=There%20are%20poets%20you%20praise%2C%0ABut%20I%20notice%20they%E2%80%99re%20all%20dead.%0AI%E2%80%99d%20rather%20find%20another%20way%0Ato%20please%20you%2C%20friend%2C%20instead.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Vacerra, you admire the ancients only<br>
<span class="tab">and praise no poets but those here no more.<br>
I beg that you will pardon me, Vacerra,<br>
<span class="tab">but pleasing you is not worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA16&vq=%22what%20yield%22&pg=PA16#v=snippet&q=%22admire%20the%20ancients%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Deceased authors thou admir'st alone,<br>
<span class="tab">And only praisest poets dead and gone:<br>
Vacerra, pardon me, I will not buy<br>
<span class="tab">Thy praise so dear, as for the same to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/42/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Fuller</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You praise long-dead authors rapturously;<br>
<span class="tab">the living ones you savage or ignore,<br>
but since your praise can’t grant immortality<br>
<span class="tab">I really don’t think it’s worth dying for.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=You%20praise%20long,Brooke%20Clark">Clark</a>]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pine for bards of old<br>
<span class="tab">and poets safely cold.<br>
Excuse me for ignoring your advice,<br>
<span class="tab">but good reviews from you aren’t worth the price.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Dear%20Vacerra%3A,A.%20M.%20Juster">Juster</a>]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Unless they’re dead, no poets seem<br>
<span class="tab">To fully satisfy;<br>
Forgive me if, for some esteem,<br>
<span class="tab">I’m not prepared to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=Unless%20they%E2%80%99re%20dead,Jack%20Mitchell">Mitchell</a>]</blockquote><br>


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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  8, epigram 79 (8.79) (AD 94) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Contrast&#8221;]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your lady friends are ill to see,<br />
<span class="tab">All old or ugly as can be,<br />
And in their company you go<br />
<span class="tab">To banquet, play, and portico;<br />
This hideous background you prepare<br />
<span class="tab">To seem, by contrast, young and fair.</p>
<p><em>[Omnes aut vetulas habes amicas<br />
Aut turpes vetulisque foediores.<br />
Has ducis comites trahisque tecum<br />
Per convivia, porticus, theatra.<br />
Sic formosa, Fabulla, sic puella es.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  8, epigram 79 (8.79) (AD 94) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;The Contrast&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/256/mode/2up?q=%22the+contrast%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Fabulla." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:8.79">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>All thy companions aged beldames are,<br>
<span class="tab">Or more deform'd than age makes any, far:<br>
These cattle at thy heels thou trail'st always<br>
<span class="tab">To public walks, to suppers, and to plays.<br>
'Cause when with such alone we thee compare,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou canst be said, Fabulla, young or fair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA390">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All the companions of her grace, I'm told,<br>
<span class="tab">Are either very plan, or very old.<br>
With these she visits: these she drags about,<br>
<span class="tab">To play, to ball, assembly, auctions, rout:<br>
With these she sups: with these she takes the air.<br>
<span class="tab">Without such foils is lady dutchess fair?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22all%20the%20companions%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Old women are thine only friends;<br>
<span class="tab">Or rivals, safe as they.<br>
No other face thy face attends,<br>
<span class="tab">To table, porch or play.<br>
Fabulla, thus thou beauteous art,<br>
<span class="tab">And thus thou still art young.<br>
Oh! solace to my eyes impart;<br>
<span class="tab">Or silence to my tongue.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22fabulla%20thus%20though%20beauteous%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, Part 3, ep. 94]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All your female friends are either old or ugly; nay, more ugly than old women usually are. These you lead about in your train, and drag with you to feasts, porticoes, and theatres. Thus, Fabulla, you seem handsome, thus you seem young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book08.htm#:~:text=All%20your%20female%20friends%20are%20either%20old%20or%20ugly%3B%20nay%2C%20more%20ugly%20than%20old%20women%20usually%20are.%20These%20you%20lead%20about%20in%20your%20train%2C%20and%20drag%20with%20you%20to%20feasts%2C%20porticoes%2C%20and%20theatres.%20Thus%2C%20Fabulla%2C%20you%20seem%20handsome%2C%20thus%20you%20seem%20young.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All the female friends you have are either old crones or ugly, and fouler than old crones. These, as your companions, you conduct and drag about with you through parties, colonnades, theaters. In this way, Fabulla, you are lovely, in this way young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22all%20the%20female%20friends%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The friends that old Fabulla owns<br>
<span class="tab">Are harridans and ancient crones,<br>
Ill-favored witches, what you will;<br>
<span class="tab">These are her constant comrades still<br>
To banquets, theatres, and shows;<br>
<span class="tab">So ever fair and young she goes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22old%20fabulla%20owns%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 442]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The only female friends she has<br>
<span class="tab">Are old or ugly crows.<br>
These she drags along with her<br>
<span class="tab">To parties, visits, shows.<br>
So it's no cause for wonder that<br>
<span class="tab">Amidst such company<br>
She's young, attractive, <i>beautiful</i> --<br>
<span class="tab">Almost a joy to see!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/98/mode/2up">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Her women friends are all old hags<br>
<span class="tab">Or, worse, hideous girls. She drags<br>
Them with her everywhere she goes --<br>
<span class="tab">To parties, theaters, porticoes.<br>
Clever Fabulla! Set among<br>
<span class="tab">Those foils you shine, even look young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/108/mode/2up?q=fabulla">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All your women friends are either old hags or frights uglier than old hags. These are your companions whom you bring with you and trail through dinner parties, colonnades, theaters. In this way, Fabullla, you are a beauty, you are a girl.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>With women you keep company<br>
<span class="tab">Who are ugly as can be.<br>
These ancient frights you take along<br>
<span class="tab">To show off in your social throng.<br>
You hope that we will make compare,<br>
<span class="tab">So even you look young and fair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=8.79">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>All your friends are ancient hags<br>
<span class="tab">or eyesores uglier than those.<br>
These are the company you drag<br>
<span class="tab">to banquets, plays, and porticoes.<br>
Fabulla, when you're seen among<br>
<span class="tab">such friends, you're beautiful and young.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/68/mode/2up">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  9, epigram  33 (9.33) (AD 94) [tr. Juster (2016)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the bathhouse breaks into loud applause, you will know that well-hung Mario is the cause. [Audieris in quo, Flacce, balneo plausum, Maronis illic esse mentulam scito.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: In whatever bath, Flaccus, you hear sounds resembling applause, know that there Maron&#8217;s yard is to be found. [tr. Bohn&#8217;s Classical (1897); in earlier [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the bathhouse breaks into loud applause,<br />
you will know that well-hung Mario is the cause.</p>
<p><em>[Audieris in quo, Flacce, balneo plausum,<br />
Maronis illic esse mentulam scito.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  33 (9.33) (AD 94) [tr. Juster (2016)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://briefpoems.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/bedside-lamps-brief-poems-by-martial/#:~:text=When%20the%20bathhouse%20breaks%20into%20loud%20applause" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.33">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>In whatever bath, Flaccus, you hear sounds resembling applause, know that there Maron's yard is to be found.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=In%20whatever%20bath%2C%20Flaccus%2C%20you%20hear%20sounds%20resembling%20applause%2C%20know%20that%20there%20Maron%27s%20yard%20is%20to%20be%20found.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897); in earlier editions, just the Latin and an Italian translation were given.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>In the baths what is now the most pleasing diversion<br>
Is to go and see Maro displaying his person.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/272/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Wonder"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you’re passing the baths and you hear,<br>
From within, an uproarious cheer,<br>
<span class="tab">You may safely conclude<br>
<span class="tab">Maron’s there, in the nude,<br>
With that tool which has nowhere a peer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/308/mode/2up">Humphries</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It's easy to tell<br>
by the roar of applause<br>
in which of the baths<br>
Maron is bathing.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/328/mode/2up">Goertz</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If from the baths you hear a round of applause,<br>
Maron's giant prick is bound to be the cause.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/vTKq7EFMBDoC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=michie%20martial&pg=PA13&printsec=frontcover&bsq=prick">Michie</a> (1972)]
</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When you hear applause in a bath, Flaccus, you may be sure that Maro's cock is there.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The bath house applauds, with widening eyes,<br>
When Maron reveals his astonishing size.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The critics in the Baths rain bravos thick<br>
For Marcus' <i>coup de théâtre</i>, his dick.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=9.33">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If from the baths you hear a round of applause,<br>
The giant prick of Maron is surely the cause.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.coopertoons.com/merryhistory/martial/valeriusmartial_CKftPI.html#martial_poetry:~:text=If%20from%20the,surely%20the%20cause.">Cooper</a>]</blockquote><br>

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		<description><![CDATA[Gaurus, you claim that since my poems please by brevity, my talent&#8217;s second-rate. I grant they&#8217;re short. But you who write twelve books on Priam&#8217;s mighty battles, are you great? I make small boys of bronze, who live and play; you, great one, make a giant out of clay. [Ingenium mihi, Gaure, probas sic esse [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaurus, you claim that since my poems please by brevity, my talent&#8217;s second-rate.<br />
<span class="tab">I grant they&#8217;re short. But you who write twelve books on Priam&#8217;s mighty battles, are you great?<br />
I make small boys of bronze, who live and play;<br />
<span class="tab">you, great one, make a giant out of clay.</p>
<p><em>[Ingenium mihi, Gaure, probas sic esse pusillum,<br />
Carmina quod faciam, quae brevitate placent.<br />
Confiteor. Sed tu bis senis grandia libris<br />
Qui scribis Priami proelia, magnus homo es?<br />
5Nos facimus Bruti puerum, nos Langona vivum:<br />
Tu magnus luteum, Gaure, Giganta facis.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  50 (9.50) (AD 94) [tr. Kennelly (2008)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR9#v=snippet&q=live%20and%20play%20clay&f=false" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Gaurus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.50">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Gaurus approves my wit but slenderly,<br>
<span class="tab">'Cause I write verse that please for brevity:<br>
But he in twenty volumes drives a trade<br>
<span class="tab">Of Priam's wars. Oh, he's a mighty blade!<br>
We give an elegant young pigmy birth,<br>
<span class="tab">He makes a dirty giant all of earth. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22gaurus%20approves%22">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am no genius, you affirm: and why?<br>
<span class="tab">Because my verses please by brevity.<br>
But you, who twice ten ponderous volumes write<br>
<span class="tab">Of mighty battles, are a man of might.<br>
Like Prior's bust, my work is neat, but small:<br>
<span class="tab">Yours like the dirty giants in Guildhall.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22i%20am%20no%20genius%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 51]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My pigmy-genius, you, grand bard, despise;<br>
<span class="tab">Because, by brevity, my verses rise.<br>
But you, who Priam's battles dire endite,<br>
<span class="tab">In twice ten volumes wax a weighty wight:<br>
We form a Brutus' boy, bid Lagon live;<br>
<span class="tab">And you a giant huge, of death-cold clay, do give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22giant%20huge%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 28]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pretend to consider my talent as small, Gaurus, because I write poems which please by being brief. I confess that it is so; while you, who write the grand wars of Priam in twelve books, are doubtless a great man. I paint the favourite of Brutus, and Langon, to the life. You, great artist, fashion a giant in clay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=You%20pretend%20to,giant%20in%20clay.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You declare my genius slight;<br>
Say the songs are short I write<br>
<span class="tab">And so the people rush to buy them in a flood.<br>
Think you, Gaurus, yours is great<br>
Since in six tomes you narrate<br>
<span class="tab">Old Priam's awful fight 'mid seas of blood?<br>
Though they're boys whom I portray,<br>
They're made boys who live and play.<br>
<span class="tab">The Giants you create are made of mud.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/82/mode/2up?q=%22of+the+quality%22">Nixon</a> (1911), "Of the Quality"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You prove to me, Gaurus, that my genius is in this way a purny one, because I make poems that please by their brevity. I confess it. But you, who in twice six books write of Priam's wars in grand style, are you a great man? I make Brutus' boy, I make Langon live: you, great man as you are, Gaurus, make a giant of clay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22puny%20one%22">Ker</a> (1920)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>But little, Gaurus, you account my wit,<br>
<span class="tab">Because with brevity I season it.<br>
Quite true, and you, who of old Priam prate<br>
<span class="tab">Though twelve long books, are to be reckoned great.<br>
I make a dwarf of living flesh and blood,<br>
<span class="tab">You, great one, make a giant, but of mud.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=470">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 470]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You argue that my talent is inconsiderable, Gaurus, because I make poems that please by brevity. I confess it. But you that write of Priam's mighty battles in twice six books, are you a great man? I make a live B rutus' Boy, a live Langon: you, Gaurus, great man that you are, make a giant of clay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You pontificate my talent is small,<br>
<span class="tab">Gaurus, because my epigrams are all<br>
Just puny trifles. Yet they seem to please,<br>
<span class="tab">I'll confess. They're a veritable breeze<br>
Compared to your epic tome, which rattles,<br>
<span class="tab">In twelve mortal books, o'er Priam's battles.<br>
That makes you big man on campus? Oh no!<br>
<span class="tab">As statuettes of master carvers glow<br>
With life, so do my tiny dramas boast<br>
<span class="tab">Vital creatures. Your giants? Clay, at most.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=You%20pontificate%20my%20Clay%2C%20at%20most.">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believing hear, what you deserve to hear:<br />
<span class="tab">Your birthday as my own to me is dear.<br />
Blest and distinguished days! which we should prize<br />
<span class="tab">The first, the kindest bounty of the skies.<br />
But yours gives most; for mine did only lend<br />
<span class="tab">Me to the world; yours gave to me a friend.</p>
<p><em>[Si credis mini, Quinte, quot mereris,<br />
natalis, Ovidi, tuas Aprilis<br />
ut nostras amo Martias Kalendas<br />
felix utraque lux diesque nobis<br />
signandi melioribus lapillis!<br />
hic vitam tribuit set hic amicum<br />
pus dant, Quinte, mini tuae Kalendae.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  52 (9.52) (AD 94) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA420&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22kindest%20bounty%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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To the poet Ovid. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA110&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22si%20credis%20mihi%22">Original Latin</a>. Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>What thou deserv'st, if thou beleeve,<br>
<span class="tab">I do to Aprils Calends give<br>
For thy birth, Ovid, what I doe<br>
<span class="tab">To March, to which mine own I owe.<br>
Both happy dayes, with whitest stone<br>
<span class="tab">Both to bee mark'd by me; by one<br>
A friend: by tother life I have.<br>
<span class="tab">The greater gift thy Calends gave.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.110?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 9.53]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>If you but believe me, Quintus Ovidius, I love, as you deserve, the first of April, your natal day, as much as I love my own first of March. Happy is either morn! and may both days be marked by us with the whitest of stones! The one gave me life, but the other a friend. Yours, Quintus, gave me more than my own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA420&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22if%20you%20but%20believe%20me%22">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Ovid, as your deserts are high,<br>
Know that our natal mornings I<br>
<span class="tab">Keep with a like fidelity;<br>
How blest the light<br>
<span class="tab">Of those twin days we mark with white!<br>
Mine gave me life, but yours a friend,<br>
<span class="tab">And that's the gift I more commend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/278/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22your+deserts%22">Street</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>If you believe me, Quintus Ovidius, the kalends of your natal April I love -- 'tis your desert -- as much as my own of March. Happy is either morn! and days are they to be marked by us with fairer stones. One gave me life, but the other a friend. Your kalends, Quintus, gave me the more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA111&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22if%20you%20believe%20me%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If you believe me, Quintus Ovidius, I love your birthday Kalends of April as much as my own of March -- you deserve it. Happy both days, days to be marked by me, with superior pebbles. The one gave me life, but the other a friend. Quintus, your Kalends give me more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  9, epigram  53 (9.53) (AD 94) [tr. Hay (1755), ep. 54]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I would send such trifles as I can; You stop me short; you arbitrary man! But I submit. Both may our orders give; And do what both like best: let me receive. [Natali tibi, Quinte, tuo dare parva volebam Munera; tu prohibes: inperiosus homo es. Parendum est monitis, fiat quod uterque volemus Et quod [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I would send such trifles as I can;<br />
<span class="tab">You stop me short; you arbitrary man!<br />
But I submit. Both may our orders give;<br />
<span class="tab">And do what both like best: let me receive.</p>
<p><em>[Natali tibi, Quinte, tuo dare parva volebam<br />
Munera; tu prohibes: inperiosus homo es.<br />
Parendum est monitis, fiat quod uterque volemus<br />
Et quod utrumque iuvat: tu mihi, Quinte, dato.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  53 (9.53) (AD 94) [tr. Hay (1755), ep. 54] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA127&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22send%20such%20trifles%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.53">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>On your birth-day, Quintus, I wished to make you a small present: you forbade me; you are imperious. I must obey your injunction: let that be done which we both desire, and which will please us both. Do you, Quintus, make me a present.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=On%20your%20birth-day%2C%20Quintus%2C%20I%20wished%20to%20make%20you%20a%20small%20present%3A%20you%20forbade%20me%3B%20you%20are%20imperious.%20I%20must%20obey%20your%20injunction%3A%20let%20that%20be%20done%20which%20we%20both%20desire%2C%20and%20which%20will%20please%20us%20both.%20Do%20you%2C%20Quintus%2C%20make%20me%20a%20present.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Your birthday I wished to observe with a gift;<br>
Your forbade and your firmness is known.<br>
<span class="tab">Every man to his taste:<br>
<span class="tab">I remark with some haste,<br>
May the Third is the date of my own.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/100/mode/2up?q=birthday">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>On your birthday, Quintus, I was wishing to give you a small present; you must forbid me; you are an imperious person! I must obey your monition. Let be done what both of us wish, and what pleases both. Do you, Quintus, make <i>me</i> a present!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22make%20me%20a%20present%22&pg=PA111&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919), Ep. 53]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wished to send you for your birthday<br>
<span class="tab">A gift, a small thing really.<br>
But you said, "No, I want no gift," <br>
<span class="tab">And meant it most sincerely.<br>
Let both our wishes be esteemed.<br>
<span class="tab">Why invite a rift<br>
Between us? When <i>my</i> birthday comes,<br>
<span class="tab">Please send <i>me</i> a gift.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22to+quintus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I wished to give you a trifling birthday present, Quintus. You forbid it. you are an imperious fellow; I must obey your admonition. Let it be as both of us will wish, as gives both of us pleasure: you give me something, Quintus.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feignlove, half-starved, a rich old hag has wed: &#8212; Poor Feignlove, doom’d to earn his board in bed. [Duxerat esuriens locupletem pauper anumque: Uxorem pascit Gellius et futuit.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: An old rich wife starv&#8217;d Gellius, bare and poor, Did wed: so she cramm&#8217;d him and he cramm&#8217;d her. [tr. Fletcher (c. 1650)] [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feignlove, half-starved, a rich old hag has wed: &#8212;<br />
Poor Feignlove, doom’d to earn his board in bed.</p>
<p><em>[Duxerat esuriens locupletem pauper anumque:<br />
Uxorem pascit Gellius et futuit.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  80 (9.80) (AD 94) [tr. Halhead (1793)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/214/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.80">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>An old rich wife starv'd Gellius, bare and poor, <br>
Did wed: so she cramm'd him and he cramm'd her.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=An%20old%20rich%20wife%20starv%27d%20Gellius%2C%20bare%20and%20poor%2C%C2%A0%0ADid%20wed%3A%20so%20she%20cramm%27d%20him%20and%20he%20cramm%27d%20her.">Fletcher</a> (c. 1650)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Consorted wealth and age has Gellius won:<br>
Now Gellius earns, and eats, and is undone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22consorted%20wealth%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, ep. 189]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The poor and hungry Gellius married a woman old and rich. He eats and enjoys himself.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=The%20poor%20and%20hungry%20Gellius%20married%20a%20woman%20old%20and%20rich.%20He%20eats%20and%20enjoys%20himself.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Hungry, and a pauper, Gellius married a rich and old woman. He now feeds and tickles his wife.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22hungry%20and%20a%20pauper%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor John in his youth was so very sharp-set,<br>
<span class="tab">He married a grand dame for what he could get.<br>
To-day he discovers there's plenty to do;<br>
<span class="tab">For he has both to feed her and fondle her, too.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/286/mode/2up?q=%22a+bad+bargain%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "A Bad Bargain"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A hungry pauper, Gellius married a rich old woman. He feeds his wife and fucks her.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>She was rich and lonely.<br>
<span class="tab">A hungry man was he.<br>
Now he dines and gets his fill,<br>
<span class="tab">And, later, so does she.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martialed_arguments/dhQIAAAAQAAJ">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A starving pauper wed a wealthy crone.<br>
Gellius feeds his wife and gives her the bone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=onepage&q=gellius&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  9, epigram  81 (9.81) (AD 94) [tr. Francis &#038; Tatum (1924)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reader and hearer, Aulus, love my stuff; A certain poet says it’s rather rough. Well, I don&#8217;t care. For dinners or for books The guest&#8217;s opinion matters, not the cook&#8217;s. [Lector et auditor nostros probat, Aule, libellos, Sed quidam exactos esse poeta negat. Non nimium curo: nam cenae fercula nostrae Malim convivis quam placuisse cocis.] [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader and hearer, Aulus, love my stuff;<br />
<span class="tab">A certain poet says it’s rather rough.<br />
Well, I don&#8217;t care. For dinners or for books<br />
<span class="tab">The guest&#8217;s opinion matters, not the cook&#8217;s.</p>
<p><em>[Lector et auditor nostros probat, Aule, libellos,<br />
Sed quidam exactos esse poeta negat.<br />
Non nimium curo: nam cenae fercula nostrae<br />
Malim convivis quam placuisse cocis.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  81 (9.81) (AD 94) [tr. Francis &#038; Tatum (1924)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22reader+and+hearer,+aulus,+love+my+stuff%22&pg=PA171&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Aulus". The numbering for this epigram varies between 81, 82, and 83 within in Book 9. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.81">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>The readers and the hearers like my books,<br>
And, yet, some writers cannot them digest:<br>
<span class="tab">But what care I? for when I make a feast,<br>
<span class="tab">I would my guests should praise it, not the cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22reader+and+the+hearer%22">Harington</a> (16th C)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Readers and hearers, both my Bookes renowne;<br>
<span class="tab">Some Poets say th' are not exactly done.<br>
I care not much; like banquets, let my Bookes<br>
<span class="tab">Rather be pleasing to the guests than Cookes.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.111?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629), 9.82]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>My works the reader and the hearer praise:<br>
<span class="tab">They're not exact; a brother poet says:<br>
I heed not him; for when I give a feast,<br>
<span class="tab">Am I to please the cook, or please the guest?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20reader%20and%20the%20hearer%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 82]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The reader and the hearer like my lays.<br>
<span class="tab">But they're unfinisht things, a poet says.<br>
The stricture ne'er shall discompose my looke:<br>
<span class="tab">My chear is for my guests, and not for cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22reader%20and%20the%20hearer%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 3.14]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>My works the reader and the hearer praise; --<br>
<span class="tab">They're incorrect, a brother poet says:<br>
But let him rail; for when I give a feast,<br>
<span class="tab">Am I to praise the cook, or please the guest?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C), 9.82, §255]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>The reader and the hearer approve of my small books, but a certain critic objects that they are not finished to a nicety. I do not take this censure much to heart, for I would wish that the course of my dinner should afford pleasure to guests rather than to cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/36/mode/2up?q=%22reader+and+the+hearer%22">Amos</a> (1858) 2.24]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>My readers and hearers, Aulus, approve of my compositions; but a certain critic says that they are not faultless. I am not much concerned at his censure; for I should wish the dishes on my table to please guests rather than cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=My%20readers%20and%20hearers%2C%20Aulus%2C%20approve%20of%20my%20compositions%3B%20but%20a%20certain%20critic%20says%20that%20they%20are%20not%20faultless.%20I%20am%20not%20much%20concerned%20at%20his%20censure%3B%20for%20I%20should%20wish%20the%20dishes%20on%20my%20table%20to%20please%20guests%20rather%20than%20cooks.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Reader and hearer both my verses praise:<br>
Some other poet cries, "They do not scan."<br>
But what care I? my dinner's always served<br>
To please my guests, and not to please the cooks.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22please%20the%20cooks%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Though my readers sincerely admire me,<br>
A poet finds fault with my books.<br>
What's the odds? When I'm giving a dinner<br>
I'd rather please guests than the cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/68/mode/2up?q=aulus">Nixon</a> (1911)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Reader and hearer approve of my works, Aulus, but a certain poet says they are not polished. I don't care much, for I should prefer the courses of my dinner to please guests rather than cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22reader%20and%20hearer%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Unpolished" -- so that scribbler sneers,<br>
While he that reads and he that hears,<br>
<span class="tab">Approve my little books;<br>
I do not care a single jot,<br>
<span class="tab">My fame is for my guests and not<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To please my rival cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/288/mode/2up?q=cook">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>The public likes my poems, though<br>
A certain poet thinks them rough<br>
<span class="tab">Or never polished quite enough.<br>
I could not care less! I prefer<br>
The morsels served up in my books<br>
<span class="tab">To please my guests, not would-be cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22to+aulus%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Readers and listeners like my books,<br>
<span class="tab">Yet a certain poet calls them crude.<br>
What do I care? I serve up food<br>
<span class="tab">To please my guests, not fellow cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22readers+and+listeners%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Everyone enjoys my delightful books <br>
Except a certain poet who objects.<br>
<span class="tab">I aim to please my guests, not other cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/390/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22everyone+enjoys%22">O'Connell</a> (1991)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Reader and listener approve my little books, Aulus, but a certain poet says they lack finish. I don't care too much; for I had rather the courses at my dinner pleased the diners than the cooks.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Read or recited, my verse is much praised,<br>
<span class="tab">Aulus, yet one poet opines: "Ill-phrased."<br>
I couldn't care less! When I set a table,<br>
<span class="tab">My guests, not the cooks, should say I'm able.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=Read%20or%20recited,say%20I%27m%20able.">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>My books are praised by him who reads,<br>
<span class="tab">Though critics damn them in their screeds.<br>
But who's to judge a proper meat --<br>
<span class="tab">Another cook, or those who eat?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22books%20are%20praised%22">Wills</a> (2007), ep. 83]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book  9, epigram  92 (9.92) (AD 94) [tr. Hay (1755)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More ease than masters, servants lives afford:<br />
<span class="tab">Think on that, Tom; nor wish to be your lord.<br />
On a coarse rug you most securely snore:<br />
<span class="tab">Deep sunk in down he counts each sleepless hour.<br />
Anxious betimes to every statesman low<br />
<span class="tab">He bows; much lower than to him you bow.<br />
Behold him with a dun at either ear,<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Pray, pay,&#8221; the word; a word you never hear.<br />
Fear you a cudgel? view his gouty state;<br />
<span class="tab">Which he would change for many a broken pate.<br />
You know no morning qualm; no costly whore:<br />
<span class="tab">Think then, though not a lord, that you are more.</p>
<p><em>[Quae mala sint domini, quae servi commoda, nescis,<br />
<span class="tab">Condyle, qui servum te gemis esse diu.<br />
Dat tibi securos vilis tegeticula somnos,<br />
<span class="tab">Pervigil in pluma Gaius, ecce, iacet.<br />
Gaius a prima tremebundus luce salutat<br />
<span class="tab">Tot dominos, at tu, Condyle, nec dominum.<br />
&#8216;Quod debes, Gai, redde&#8217; inquit Phoebus et illinc<br />
<span class="tab">Cinnamus: hoc dicit, Condyle, nemo tibi.<br />
Tortorem metuis? podagra cheragraque secatur<br />
<span class="tab">Gaius et mallet verbera mille pati.<br />
Quod nec mane vomis nec cunnum, Condyle, lingis,<br />
<span class="tab">Non mavis, quam ter Gaius esse tuus?]</span></span></span></span></span></span></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book  9, epigram  92 (9.92) (AD 94) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22mafters%20fervants%22down" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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Masters often think themselves more put-upon than their lazy, "carefree" servants/slaves, as do the rich versus the poor. "To Condylus" (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:9.92">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>The weal of a servant, and woe of his lord,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou know'st not, who so long hast service abhorr'd.<br>
Securest of slumbers thy coverlet crown:<br>
<span class="tab">Thy master, my Condyl, lies watching in down.<br>
Lords many hails he, the chill morn just begun:<br>
<span class="tab">Thou own'st no such duty, saluting scarce one.<br>
To him this and that wight: Pray, pay what you ow.<br>
<span class="tab">To thee not a mortal pretends to say so.<br>
Thou feat'st but a flogging: he's rackt with the gout.<br>
<span class="tab">A thousand sound lashes he'd rather stand out.<br>
Nor sick thou at morning, nor pale with disease:<br>
<span class="tab">Who's moire, prithee, thou or thy master at ease?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22woe%20of%20his%20lord%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 4, Part 2, ep. 35]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of the troubles of a master, and the pleasures of a slave, Condylus, you are ignorant, when you lament that you have been a slave so long. A common rug gives you sleep free from all anxiety; Caius lies awake all night on his bed of down. Caius, from the first dawn of day, salutes with trembling a number of patrons; you, Condylus, salute not even your master. "Caius, pay what you owe me," cries Phoebus on the one side, and Cinnamus on the other; no one makes such a demand on you, Condylus. Do you fear the torturer? Caius is a martyr to the gout in his hands and feet, and would rather suffer a thousand floggings than endure its pains. You indulge neither gluttonous nor licentious propensities. Is not this preferable to being three times a Caius?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=Of%20the%20troubles,times%20a%20Caius%3Fhttps://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book09.htm#:~:text=Of%20the%20troubles,times%20a%20Caius%3F">Bohn</a>'s Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The lowliest cot will give thee powerful sleep,<br>
<span class="tab">While Caius tosses on his bed of down.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lowliest%20cot%22">Harbottle</a> (1897), 9.93.3]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What are a master's ills, what a slave's blessings you do not know, Condylus, who groan that you are so long a slave. Your common rush-mat affords you sleep untoubled; wakeful all night on down, see, Gaius lies! Gaius from early morn salutes trembling many masters; but you, Condylus, not even your master. "What you owe, Gaius, pay," says Phoebus, and after him Cinnamus: this no one Condylus says to you. Do you dread the torturer? By gout in food and hand Gaius is stabbed, and would choose instead to endure a thousand blows. You do not vomit in the morning, nor are you given to filthy vice, Condylus: do you not prefer this to being your Gaius three times over?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22master%27s%20ills%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"How easy live the free," you say, and brood <br>
<span class="tab">Upon your long but easy servitude.<br>
See Gaius tossing on his downy bed;<br>
<span class="tab">Your sleep’s unbroken tho’ the couch be rude;<br>
He pays his call ere chilly dawn be red,<br>
<span class="tab">You need not call on him, you sleep instead;<br>
He’s deep in debt, hears many a summons grim <br>
<span class="tab">From creditors that you need never dread,<br>
You might be tortured at your master’s whim;<br>
<span class="tab">Far worse the gout that racks his every limb;<br>
Think of the morning qualms, his vicious moods. <br>
<span class="tab">Would you for thrice his freedom change with him?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/290/mode/2up?q=%22true+servitude%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "True Servitude"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Condylus, you lament that you have been so long a slave; you don't know a master's afflictions and a slave's advantages. A cheap little mat gives you carefree slumbers: there's Gaius lying awake all night on feathers. From daybreak on Gaius in fear and trembling salutes so many masters: but you, Condylus, do not salute even your own. "Gaius, pay me back what you owe," says Phoebus, and from yonder so says Cinnamus: nobody says that to you, Condylus. You fear the torturer? Gaius is cut by gout in foot and hand and would rather take a thousand lashes. You don't vomit of a morning or lick a cunt, Condylus; isn't that better than being your Gaius three times over?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Never the pros & cons of "slave," or "master,"<br>
<span class="tab">can you, mourning long servitude, discern.<br>
The cheapest matting yields you dreamless sleep;<br>
<span class="tab">Gaius's feather-bed keeps him awake.<br>
From crack of down Gaius respectfully <br>
<span class="tab">greets many masters; yours goes ungreeted.<br>
"Pay day, Gaius, pay!" says Phoebus. "Pay! Pay!"<br>
<span class="tab">chimes Cinnamus. What man speaks thus to you?<br>
Screw & rack, you dread? Gaius' gout stabs so<br>
<span class="tab">he'ld far prefer the thumbscrew or the rack.<br>
You've no hangover habit, oral sex:<br>
<span class="tab">is not one life of yours worth three of his?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22mourning%20long%20servitude%22">Whigham</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

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		<description><![CDATA[For of old Rome said to me &#8212; &#8220;Your readers are your gold. By them the stream of Lethe you’ll survive, By them the better part of you will live.&#8221; The wild fig splits Messalla’s marbles through, And Crispus’ steeds are shattered quite in two : But books are helped by time nor hurt by [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">For of old<br />
<span class="tab">Rome said to me &#8212; &#8220;Your readers are your gold.<br />
By them the stream of Lethe you’ll survive,<br />
<span class="tab">By them the better part of you will live.&#8221;<br />
The wild fig splits Messalla’s marbles through,<br />
<span class="tab">And Crispus’ steeds are shattered quite in two :<br />
But books are helped by time nor hurt by thieves,<br />
<span class="tab">Memorials that death uninjured leaves.</p>
<p><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><em>[Quem cum mihi Roma dedisset.<br />
&#8220;Nil tibi quod demus maius habemus&#8221; ait.<br />
&#8220;Pigra per hunc fugies ingratae flumina Lethes<br />
Et meliore tui parte superstes eris.<br />
Marmora Messallae findit caprificus, et audax<br />
Dimidios Crispi mulio ridet equos:<br />
At chartis nec furta nocent et saecula prosunt,<br />
Solaque non norunt haec monumenta mori.&#8221;]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram   2 (10.2) (AD 95, 98 ed.)[tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/298/mode/2up?q=%22stream+of+lethe%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D10%3Apoem%3D2#:~:text=quem%20cum%20mihi,monumenta%20mori.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Reader, my wealth; whom when to me Rome gave,<br>
<span class="tab">Nought greater to bestow (quoth she) I have.<br>
By him ingratefull Lethe thou shalt flye,<br>
<span class="tab">And in thy better part shalt never dye.<br>
Wilde Fig-trees rend Messalla's Marbles off;<br>
<span class="tab">Crispus halfe-horses the bold Carters scoffe.<br>
Writings no age can wrong, no thieving hand.<br>
<span class="tab">Deathlesse alone those Monuments will stand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.34?rgn=div2;view=fulltext#:~:text=Reader%2C%20my%20wealth,Monuments%20will%20stand.">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When Fate to me a constant reader gave;<br>
<span class="tab">Receive, she said, the greatest boon I have.<br>
By this beyond oblivion's stream arrive;<br>
<span class="tab">And in your better party by this survive.<br>
Statues may moulder; and the clown unbred<br>
<span class="tab">Scoff at young Ammon's horse without his head.<br>
But finish'd writings theft and time defy;<br>
<span class="tab">The only monument, which cannot die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22reader%20gave%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Reader, our riches! Well, said, Rome, I know,<br>
<span class="tab">A blester boon I have not to bestow.<br>
By this though thro' Lethean streams shalt strive,<br>
<span class="tab">And in thy better part shalt still survive.<br>
The wilding may Messala's marble cleave,<br>
<span class="tab">The speaker silence, and the sculptor reave.<br>
The mule's pert driver may reproachless laugh,<br>
<span class="tab">At Crispus' coursers dwindled down to half.<br>
Wit's labors onely rape or age defy:<br>
<span class="tab">His monuments alone can never die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Reader,%20our%20riches%22">Elphinston</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When Rome gave you [readers] to me, she said, "I have nothing greater to give you. By his means you will escape the sluggish waves of ungrateful Lethe, and will survive in the better part of yourself. The marble tomb of Messale is split by the wild fig, and the audacious muleteer laughs at the mutilated horses of the statue of Crispus.1 But as for writings, they are indestructible either by thieves or the ravages of time; such monuments alone are proof against death."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=when%20Rome%20gave,proof%20against%20death.%22">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For when Rome had given you to me, she said: We have nothing greater to give you. By him will you escape unthankful Lethe's sluggish stream, and will in your better part survive. Messalla's marble the wild-fig sunders, and boldly the mule-driver laughs at Crispus' steeds broken in two. But writings thefts do not injure, and time befriends them, and alone these monuments know not death."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sluggish%20stream%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Rome can tell how dear,<br>
<span class="tab">Who gave thee, saying, "Take my best; 'tis here;<br>
By him ungrateful Lethe thou shallt flee<br>
<span class="tab">And thy best parts have immortality."<br>
The fig-tree splits Messala's marble blocks,<br>
<span class="tab">And the rough drover draggled Crispus mocks.<br>
Verses grow great with Time and Fate defy;<br>
<span class="tab">Such monuments alone can never die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22ungrateful%20Lethe%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 508]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>When Rome gave you to me, she said: "I have nothing greater to give you. through him you will escape ungrateful Lethe's idle waters and survive in the better part of yourself. The fig tree splits Messalla's marble, the bold muleteer laughs at Crispus' halved horses. But thefts do not harm paper and the centuries do it good. These are the only memorials that cannot die."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><span class="tab"><span class="tab"><span class="tab">Reader, Patron, willed to me by <i>Rome</i> <br>
<span class="tab">saying: "No greater gift! Through him<br>
You'll flee neglectful <i>Lethe's</i> stagnant flood --<br>
<span class="tab">the better part of you survive.<br>
Wild-fig rives the marble, heedless muleteers<br>
<span class="tab">deride the busted steeds of bronze.<br>
But verse no decrease knows, time adds to verse,<br>
<span class="tab">deathless alone of monuments."<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22reader,%20patron%22">Whigham</a> (1985), "Rome's Gift"]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good man can expand his life: he lives twice over whose past life can be enjoyed. [Ampliat ætatis spatium sibi vir bonus. Hoc est Vivere bis, vita posse priore frui.] &#8220;To Antonius Primus.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Thus good men to themselves long life can give, T&#8217; enjoy our former life is twice to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good man can expand his life: he lives<br />
twice over whose past life can be enjoyed.</p>
<p><em>[Ampliat ætatis spatium sibi vir bonus. Hoc est<br />
Vivere bis, vita posse priore frui.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram  23 (10.23.8-9) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
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"To Antonius Primus." (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D10%3Apoem%3D23#:~:text=Ampliat%20aetatis%20spatium%20sibi%20vir%20bonus%3A%20hoc%20est%0AVivere%20bis%2C%20vita%20posse%20priore%20frui.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>



<blockquote>Thus good men to themselves long life can give,<br>
T' enjoy our former life is twice to live.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A07090.0001.001/1:5.116?rgn=div2;view=fulltext">May</a> (1629)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Each must, in vertue, strive for to excell;<br>
<i>That man lives twice, that lives the first life well.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22man+lives+twice%22">Herrick</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He liveth twice, who can the Gift retain<br>
Of Mem'ry, to enjoy past Life again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/120/mode/2up?q=%22liveth+twice%22">Cotton</a> (1685)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thus a good man prolongs his mortal date;<br>
Lives twice, enjoying thus his former slate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22mortal%20date%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>For he lives twice who can at once employ<br>
The present well, and e'en the past enjoy.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Alexander_Pope/vMMzAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=pope+%22twice+who+can+at+once+employ%22&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover">Pope</a> (1713)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>They stretch the limits of this narrow span;<br>
And, by enjoying, live past life again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.johnsonessays.com/the-rambler/the-advantages-memory/#:~:text=They%20stretch%20the%20limits%20of%20this%20narrow%20span%3B%0AAnd%2C%20by%20enjoying%2C%20live%20past%20life%20again.">Lewis</a> (1750)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A good man amplifies the span of his existence ; for this is to live <i>twice</i>, to be able to find enjoyment in past life. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22ep.+xxiii%22">Amos</a> (1858); he gives several other contemporary uses and translations.]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A good man lengthens his term of existence; to be able to enjoy our past life is to live twice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=A%20good%20man%20lengthens%20his%20term%20of%20existence%3B%20to%20be%20able%20to%20enjoy%20our%20past%20life%20is%20to%20live%20twice.">Bohn's</a> Classical (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So good men lengthen life; and to recall<br>
The past, is to have twice enjoyed it all.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/260/mode/2up?q=%22lengthen+life%22">Stevenson</a> (c. 1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The good man prolongs his life; to be able to enjoy one's past life is to live twice.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Familar_Quotations/0NkPAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22good+man+prolongs+his+life%22&pg=PA336&printsec=frontcover">Bartlett's</a> (1891)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>A good man has a double span of life,<br>
For to enjoy past life is twice to live.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22double%20span%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>A good man widens for himself his age's span; he lives twice who can find delight in life bygone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22good%20man%20widens%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Redoubled happiness and life hath he <br>
Whose joy doth live again in memory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/306/mode/2up?q=%22redoubled+happiness%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The good man lengthens out his earthly skein,<br>
For living in the past is life again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22good%20man%20lengthens%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #525]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A good man's life is doubly long,<br>
For he lives twice who, day and night,<br>
<span class="tab">Can in his whole past take delight.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/112/mode/2up?q=%22doubly+long%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Virtue extends our days: he lives two lives who relives his past with pleasure.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Familiar_Qutations_A_Collection_of_passa/f1plMLxh5CgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Virtue+extends+our+days:+he+lives%22&dq=%22Virtue+extends+our+days:+he+lives%22&printsec=frontcover">Bartlett's</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A good man enlarges for himself his span of life. To be able to enjoy former life is to live twice over.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The good man has no ugly past he would forget,<br>
So memory gives him doubled life without regret.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He does not deplore life's brevity.<br>
For virtue is itself longevity.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=deplore%20life's%20brevity">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>When I remember,<br>
success, failure,<br>
friend, enemy,<br>
wife, lover<br>
I live twice over.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/50/mode/2up?q=twice">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Living"]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>A good man can expand his life: he lives<br>
twice over whose past life can be enjoyed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/78/mode/2up?q=%22expand+his+life%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>




<blockquote>The good man broadens for himself the span of his years: to be able to enjoy the life you have spent, is to live it twice.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=AqHKBwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20volume%202&pg=PA173#v=onepage&q&f=false">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The things that make a life of ease,<br />
<span class="tab">Dear Martial, are such things as these:<br />
Wealth furnished not by work but birth,<br />
<span class="tab">A grateful farm, a blazing hearth,<br />
No lawsuit, seldom formal dress;<br />
<span class="tab">But leisure, stalwart healthiness,<br />
A tactful candour, equal friends,<br />
<span class="tab">Glad guests at board which naught pretends,<br />
No drunken nights, but sorrow free,<br />
<span class="tab">A bed of joy yet chastity;<br />
Sleep that makes darkness fly apace,<br />
<span class="tab">So well content with destined place,<br />
Unenvious so as not to fear<br />
<span class="tab">Your final day, nor wish it near.</p>
<p><em>[Vitam quae faciant beatiorem,<br />
Iucundissime Martialis, haec sunt:<br />
Res non parta labore, sed relicta;<br />
Non ingratus ager, focus perennis;<br />
Lis numquam, toga rara, mens quieta;<br />
Vires ingenuae, salubre corpus;<br />
Prudens simplicitas, pares amici;<br />
Convictus facilis, sine arte mensa;<br />
Nox non ebria, sed soluta curis;<br />
Non tristis torus, et tamen pudicus;<br />
Somnus, qui faciat breves tenebras:<br />
Quod sis, esse velis nihilque malis;<br />
Summum nec metuas diem nec optes.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram  47 (10.47) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. Duff (1929)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44640/44640-h/44640-h.htm#:~:text=The%20things%20that,wish%20it%20near." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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To his friend, Julius Martialis. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:10.47">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Martial, the things that do attain<br>
The happy life, be these, I find:<br>
The riches left, not got with pain;<br>
<span class="tab">the fruitful ground, the quiet mind:<br>
the equal friend, no grudge, no strife;<br>
No charge of rule, nor governance;<br>
Without disease, the healthful life;<br>
<span class="tab">The household of continuance:<br>
The mean diet, no delicate fare;<br>
True wisdom join'd with simpleness;<br>
The night discharged of all care,<br>
<span class="tab">Where wine the wit may not oppress:<br>
The faithful wife, without debate;<br>
Such sleeps as may beguile the night.<br>
Contented with thine own estate;<br>
<span class="tab">Ne wish for Death, ne Fear his might.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22the%20things%20that%20do%20attain%22&pg=PA470&printsec=frontcover">Henry Howard</a>, Earl of Surrey (1557)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>The Things that make the happier life, are these, <br>
<span class="tab">Most pleasant Martial; Substance got with ease,<br>
Not labour'd for, but left thee by thy Sire;<br>
<span class="tab">A Soyle, not barren, a continewall fire; <br>
Never at law; seldome in office gown'd;<br>
<span class="tab">A quiet mind; free powers; and body sound;<br>
A wise simplicity; freindes alike-stated;<br>
<span class="tab">Thy table without art, and easy-rated:<br>
Thy night not dronken, but from cares layd wast;<br>
<span class="tab">No sowre, or sollen bed-mate, yet a Chast;<br>
<span class="tab">Sleepe, that will make the darkest howres swift-pac't;<br>
Will to bee, what thou art; and nothing more:<br>
<span class="tab">Nor feare thy latest day, nor wish therfore.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/50/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22the+things+that+make+the+happier%22%22">Jonson</a> (1640)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>The things that make a life to please<br>
<span class="tab">(Sweetest <em>Martiall</em>), they are these:<br>
Estate <em>inherited</em>, not got:<br>
<span class="tab">A <em>thankful</em> field, <em>hearth</em> always hot:<br>
City <em>seldom</em>, law-suits <em>never:</em><br>
<span class="tab"><em>Equal</em> friends agreeing <em>ever:</em><br>
<em>Health</em> of <em>body</em>, <em>peace</em> of <em>mind:</em><br>
<span class="tab"><em>Sleeps</em> that till the morning bind:<br>
<em>Wise</em> simplicity, <em>plain</em> fare:<br>
<span class="tab">Not <em>drunken</em> nights, yet <em>loosed</em> from care:<br>
A <em>sober</em>, not a <em>sullen</em> spouse:<br>
<span class="tab"><em>Clean strength</em>, not such as <em>his</em> that plows;<br>
Wish only what you <em>are</em>, to <em>be;</em><br>
<span class="tab"><em>Death</em> neither <em>wish</em>, nor <em>fear</em> to <em>see</em>.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=The%20things%20that%20make%20a,wish%2C%20nor%20fear%20to%20see.">Fanshawe</a> (1648)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Those things which make life truly blest, <br>
<span class="tab">Sweetest Martial hear exprest:<br>
Wealth left, and not from Labour growing;<br>
<span class="tab">A gratefull soyl, a Hearth still glowing;<br>
No Strife, small Business, Peace of Mind,<br>
<span class="tab">Quick Wit, a Body well inclin'd,<br>
Wise Innocence, Friends of one Hart,<br>
<span class="tab">Cheap Food, a Table without Art;<br>
Nights which nor Cares, nor Surfets know,<br>
<span class="tab">No dull, yet a chaste Bedfellow;<br>
Sleeps which the tedious Hours contract;<br>
<span class="tab">Be what thou mayst be, nor exact<br>
ought more; nor thy last Hour of Breath<br>
<span class="tab">Fear, nor with wishes hasten Death.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/72/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22those+things+which+make%22">Sherburne</a> (1651)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Most pleasant Martial these are they <br>
<span class="tab">That make the happyer life and day,<br>
Means not sweat for, but resign'd,<br>
<span class="tab">Fire wihtout end, fields still in kinde,<br>
No strife, no office, inward peace,<br>
<span class="tab">Free strength, a body sans disease,<br>
A prudent plainesse, equal friends,<br>
<span class="tab">Cheap Cates, not scraped from the world's ends,<br>
A night not drown'd, but free from care,<br>
<span class="tab">Sheets never sad, and yet chast are,<br>
Sleep that makes hsort the shades of night,<br>
<span class="tab">Art such thou would'st be, if there might<br>
A choice be offer'd, nor dost fear<br>
<span class="tab">Nor wish thy last dayes exit here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/78/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22most+pleasant+martial+these%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Since, dearest Friend! 'tis your desire to see<br>
<span class="tab">A true receipt of happiness from me;<br>
These are the chief ingredients, if not all:<br>
<span class="tab">Take an estate neither too great, nor small<br>
<span class="tab">Which <i>quantum sufficit</i> the doctors call.<br>
Let this estate from parents' care descend;<br>
<span class="tab">The getting it too much of life does spend.<br>
Take such a ground, whose gratitude may be<br>
<span class="tab">A fair encouragement for industry.<br>
Let constant fires the winter's fury take,<br>
And let thy kitchen's be a vestal flame.<br>
Thee to the town let never suit at law,<br>
<span class="tab">And rarely, very rarely, business draw.<br>
They active mind in equal temper keep,<br>
<span class="tab">in undisturbed peace, yet not in sleep.<br>
Let exercise a vigorous health maintain,<br>
<span class="tab">Without which all the composition's vain.<br>
In the same weight prudence and innocence take;<br>
<span class="tab">And of each does the just mixture make.<br>
But a few friendships wear, and let them be<br>
<span class="tab">By nature and by fortune fit for thee.<br>
Instead of art and luxury in food,<br>
<span class="tab">Let mirth and freedom make thy table good.<br>
If any cares into the daytime creep,<br>
<span class="tab">At night, without wine's opium, let them sleep,<br>
Let rest, which nature does to darkness wed,<br>
<span class="tab">And not lust, recommend to thee thy bed.<br>
Be satisfied, and pleas'd with what thou art;<br>
<span class="tab">Act cheerfully and well th' allotted part; <br>
Enjoy the present hour, be thankful for the past,<br>
<span class="tab">And neither fear, nor with th' approaches of the last.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA233&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22true%20receipt%20of%20happiness%22">Cowley</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>What things our Life do happy make <br>
<span class="tab">From me, my sweetest Martial, take.<br>
A left Estate, not got with pain;<br>
<span class="tab">A fruitfull Field, that swells with grain;<br>
A Kitching, that is ever warm;<br>
<span class="tab">Life free from Quarrels and from Harm.<br>
Rarely to be concern;d with State,<br>
<span class="tab">Never to have Law-sutes , or debate;<br>
But on the Mind Content to wait.<br>
<span class="tab">The Strength intire and Body sound,<br>
And Innocence with Prudence crown'd:<br>
<span class="tab">An Equal and a Faithfull Friend,<br>
Discourse, that may in Pleasure end,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor Feasts, that may to Riot tend.<br>
No drunken Nights, yet such, as may<br>
<span class="tab">Wash off the sully of the Day.<br>
No lonely Bed, yet One, that's chast;<br>
<span class="tab">And Sleep, that tedious Nights may wast.<br>
With what we have to be Content,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor, what we have not, to resent:<br>
Not fear our last approaching Day,<br>
<span class="tab">And yet not rashly fling our Life away.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/122/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22life+do+happy%22">Heyrick</a> (1691)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>To make my life of all mens happyest,<br>
<span class="tab">Sweet Martiall, I w'ld bee wit these things blest:<br>
A good Estate, nott gott with mine own toyle,<br>
<span class="tab">But by Descent: plac'd in a fruitfull soyle:<br>
Well woodded, that may constant fyres mayntayne:<br>
<span class="tab">No private Suites: few publicke Cares: A Brayne<br>
Untroubled: Body healthfull; active, strong;<br>
<span class="tab">Harmeless, butt prudent, in converse; among<br>
Few friends of my owne rank: No curious Fare,<br>
<span class="tab">Butt wholesome: Nights, nott drunke, butt free from Care<br>
A Wife though chast yett frolick in my Bedd:<br>
<span class="tab">Sound sleepe all Night to seize my drowsy head;<br>
Wish to bee what thou art, and wish no higher:<br>
<span class="tab">And thy last End nor feare, nor yett desire.<br>
[<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/154/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22to+make+my+life%22">British Library MS Add. 27343</a> (17th C)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Pleas'd alway with the lot my fates assign,<br>
<span class="tab">Let me no change desire, no change decline;<br>
With every turn of Providence comply,<br>
<span class="tab">Not tir'd with life, nor yet afraid to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22LIB.+X%2C+EP.+XLVII%22">Fenton</a> (c. 1725)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Of things that heighten human bliss,<br>
<span class="tab">The sum, sweet Martial, may be this.<br>
A freehold, not amast by care;<br>
<span class="tab">But dropt on a deserving heir:<br>
A soil, that ev'ry culture pays,<br>
<span class="tab">A hearth, with never-dying blaze:<br>
No contest, and but little court;<br>
<span class="tab">A quiet mind, her own support:<br>
A gale, to fan ingenuous flame;<br>
<span class="tab">Exertion, to enforce the frame:<br>
Simplicity, that wisdom blends;<br>
<span class="tab">Equality, the bond of friends:<br>
An easy converse, artless board,<br>
<span class="tab">With all the little needfull stor'd:<br>
A night not soaking, care effac'd;<br>
<span class="tab">A couch not dismal, always chaste:<br>
Sleep stealing o'er the gloom so sweet,<br>
<span class="tab">That evening bids and morning meet.<br>
content, which nought beyond aspires;<br>
<span class="tab">And death nor dreads, nor yet desires.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover">Elphinston</a> (1782), 2.47]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Pleas'd with thy present lot, not grudging at the past<br>
Nor fearing when thy time shall come, nor hoping for thy last.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22LIB.+X%2C+EP.+XLVII%22">Somerville</a> (<1858)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The requisites for a happy life are the following: competency inherited and not acquired by labour; productive land, a hearth with never lacks a fire; total absence of litigation; rare occasion for the toga; a quiet mind; unimpaired physical vigour; health of body; prudent simplicity; friends that are, in all respects, your equal; familiar society; a table devoid fo art; nights, not of revelling, but of freedom from cares; a couch not sad nor licentious; sleep, which curtails the time of darkness; to be exactly what you wish to be; preferring no other condition to your own; neither to dread nor to long for your last hour.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22LIB.+X%2C+EP.+XLVII%22">Amos</a> (1858); includes a variety of commentary]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The things that make life happy, dearest Martial, are these: wealth not gained by labour, but inherited; lands that make no ill return; a hearth always warm; freedom from litigation; little need of business costume; a quiet mind; a vigorous frame; a healthy constitution; prudence without cunning; friends among our equals, and social intercourse; a table spread without luxury; nights, not of drunkenness, yet of freedom from care; a bed, not void of connubial pleasures, yet chaste; sleep, such as makes the darkness seem short; contentment with our lot, and no wish for change; and neither to fear death nor seek it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=The%20things%20that,nor%20seek%20it.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What makes the happiest life below,<br>
<span class="tab">A few plain rules, my friend, will show.<br>
A good estate not earn'd with toil,<br>
But left by will, or giv'n by fate;<br>
A land of no ungrateful soil,<br>
<span class="tab">A constant fire within your grate:<br>
No law; few cares; a quiet mind; <br>
Strength unimpair'd, a healthful frame;<br>
Wisdom with innocence combin'd;<br>
<span class="tab">Friends equal both in years and fame;<br>
Your living easy, and your board<br>
<span class="tab">With food, but not with luxury stored<br>
A Bed, though chaste, not solitary;<br>
Sound sleep, to shorten night's dull reign;<br>
Wish nothing that is yours to vary;<br>
<span class="tab">Think all enjoyments that remain;<br>
And for the inevitable hour,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor hope it nigh, nor dread its power.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22happiest%20life%20below%22&pg=PA470&printsec=frontcover">Merivale</a> (<1871)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>These, Martial, are the things that give<br>
<span class="tab">A happier life than most men live.<br>
A fortune not by labour on,<br>
<span class="tab">But left by father to his son;<br>
A farm that yields no scant returns,<br>
<span class="tab">A hearth that ever brightly burns;<br>
No law-suits, no heart-using cares;<br>
<span class="tab">A gown its owner seldom wears;<br>
A constitution firmly knit,<br>
<span class="tab">And healthy frame accompanying it;<br>
An honest canour, yet discreet,<br>
<span class="tab">With friends congenial and meet;<br>
Good-natured guests your joys to share,<br>
<span class="tab">A pain and unpretentious fare;<br>
No nights whose hours in revel pass,<br>
<span class="tab">Yet not uncheered by social glass;<br>
A spouse of chaste yet merry sort;<br>
<span class="tab">Sound sleep that makes the darkness short;<br>
A mind so well contented grown<br>
<span class="tab">It thinks no lot excels its own;<br>
So blest, you neither wish nor fear<br>
<span class="tab">To see the closing hour draw near.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/122/mode/2up">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>What makes a happy life, dear friend,<br>
<span class="tab">If thou would'st briefly learn, attend.<br>
An income left, not earned by toil;<br>
<span class="tab">Some acres of a kindly soil;<br>
The pot unfailing on the fire;<br>
<span class="tab">No lawsuits; seldom town attire;<br>
Health; strength with grace; a peaceful mind;<br>
<span class="tab">Shrewdness with honesty combined;<br>
Plain living; equal friends and free;<br>
<span class="tab">Evenings of temperate gaiety;<br>
A wife discreet, yet blithe and bright;<br>
<span class="tab">Sound slumber that lends wings to night.<br>
With all thy heart embrace thy lot,<br>
<span class="tab">Wish not for death and fear it not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/268/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22happy+life+dear+friend%22">Smith</a> (1893)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Martial, my best of friends, believe <br>
<span class="tab">Upon these terms ’tis good to live.<br>
Wealth handed down, not bought by toil,<br>
<span class="tab">A genial hearth, a kindly soil;<br>
Scant ceremonial, lawsuits none,<br>
<span class="tab">A mind a peace, a healthy tone<br>
Of body, native strength withal,<br>
<span class="tab">Wise frankness, friends congenial,<br>
Good company, a simple fare,<br>
<span class="tab">Of wine enough to banish care,<br>
A bedfellow who's fondly shy,<br>
<span class="tab">Sound sleep to make the night go by,<br>
Divine contentment with your lot,<br>
<span class="tab">Death not desired, but dreaded not.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/278/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22my+best+of+friends%22">Street</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Julius, the things that make for ease <br>
<span class="tab">And happiness in life are these:<br>
Lands left me, not acquired with toil;<br>
<span class="tab">Unfailing fuel; kindly soil;<br>
No suits; light work; mind void of whims;<br>
<span class="tab">Good constitution; healthy limbs;<br>
Frank thoughts; plain board; congenial friends;<br>
<span class="tab">Meals that, with Plenty, Mirth attends;<br>
Nights with good cheer, not drinking, sped;<br>
<span class="tab">A glad, but not immodest bed;<br>
Sound sleep that makes the darkness fly;<br>
<span class="tab">content with life, if I be I,<br>
<span class="tab">Without the fear, or wish, to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/286/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22make+for+ease%22">Courthope</a> (1914)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>The things that make life happier, most genial Martial, are these: means not acquired by labour, but bequeathed; fields not unkindly, an ever blazing hearth; no lawsuit, the toga seldom worn, a quiet mind; a free man's strength, a healthy body; frankness with tact, congenial friends, good-natured guests, a board plainly spread; nights not spent in wine, but freed from cares, a wife not prudish and yet pure; sleep such as makes the darkness brief; be content with what you are, and wish no change, nor dread your last day, nor long for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22make%20life%20happier%22&pg=PA189&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The things that make a happy life,<br>
My genial friend, are these:<br>
A quiet dwelling free from strife,<br>
<span class="tab">Health, strength, a mind at ease;<br>
Money bequeathed, not hardly won,<br>
<span class="tab">A blazing fire when work is done.<br>
Ingenuous prudence, equal friends,<br>
Bright talk and simple fare,<br>
a farm that crops ungrudging lends,<br>
<span class="tab">Soberness free from care,<br>
A wife who's chaste yet fond of sport,<br>
<span class="tab">And sleep that makes the night seem short.<br>
With what you are be satisfied,<br>
Nor let ambition range;<br>
Contented still whate'er betide<br>
<span class="tab">And caring naught for change.<br>
Pray not for death nor yet feel fear<br>
<span class="tab">When the last hour life draws near.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/314/mode/2up">Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Dear Martial, if you'ld happy be,<br>
<span class="tab">Here's the unfailing recipe.<br>
An income not procured by toil,<br>
<span class="tab">A blazing hearth, a grateful soil,<br>
Quiet, undress, no suit at law,<br>
<span class="tab">Good health and strength without a flaw,<br>
Shrewd frankness, many a loyal heart,<br>
<span class="tab">Kind guests, a table void of art,<br>
Nights careless, sober, bed that's chaste<br>
<span class="tab">But cheerful, sleep the night to waste;<br>
Contented seek no other fate,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor wish nor fear your death to wait.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Dear%20Martial,%20if%20you%27ld%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #544, "To His Cousin"] </blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here are the things, dear friend, which make <br>
<span class="tab">Life not impossible to take:<br>
Riches bequeathed, not won by toil;<br>
<span class="tab">Fire on the hearth; responsive soil;<br>
No law suits; seldom formal dress;<br>
<span class="tab">A frank but wise disarmingness;<br>
A healthy body, and a mind<br>
<span class="tab">Alert, but peaceably inclined;<br>
Congenial guests; a table set<br>
<span class="tab">Without excessive etiquette;<br>
Nights free from exigence and worry,<br>
<span class="tab">But not too bleary or too blurry;<br>
In bed, a wife not frigid nor<br>
<span class="tab">Too reminiscent of a whore;<br>
Slumber, to make the shadows swift;<br>
<span class="tab">Contentment with your native gift;<br>
And, without longing or dismay,<br>
<span class="tab">The prospect of your final day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/310/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22here+are+the+things%22">Humphries</a> (1963)]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>These are the things, my handsome friend,<br> 
<span class="tab">That make life happier to the end:<br>
Wealth, not as an employee<br>
<span class="tab">Amassed, but as a legatee,<br>
A farm responsive to my care,<br>
<span class="tab">A fire to warm my pensive chair,<br>
Lawsuits never, rare the bane<br>
<span class="tab">Of dinner-suits, a mind that's sane,<br>
A body sound, a shoulder free,<br>
<span class="tab">Not bowed by fear or slavery.<br>
A disposition frank but kind,<br>
<span class="tab">Friends with me of an equal mind,<br>
Friends who easily are led<br>
<span class="tab">To share my table plainly spread;<br>
Wine at night the cares of day<br>
<span class="tab">To smile at and to chase away,<br>
Fun and merriment in bed<br>
<span class="tab">But such as proper to those wed,<br>
A sleep that makes the night on wings<br>
<span class="tab">Depart, and blessed daylight brings,<br>
To be content with what we are,<br>
<span class="tab">And not to curse our natal star,<br>
Never to fear the final day,<br>
<span class="tab">Never for death to hope and pray.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/116/mode/2up">Marcellino</a> (1968), "On Happiness"]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>The things that make life better<br>
are these, my good friend Julius Martial:<br>
Money you inherit and don't have to work for,<br>
a fruitful field, an unfailing fire,<br>
no lawsuit in sight, being seldom obliged<br>
to don the toga, a mind unhampered by cares,<br>
a body in good condition, and still endowed<br>
with the strength it always had,<br>
deliberately living on the small scale<br>
with friends and equals, just good company;<br>
no fussing around with costly dinner parties,<br>
the sort of night that cheers you up<br>
without landing you dead drunk<br>
on a couch that's neither prudish<br>
nor abandoned,<br>
and then a good long sleep<br>
that makes the darkness short.<br>
And this above all, to accept yourself<br>
as you really are<br>
and to wish for nothing more.<br>
If you live like this, my good friend Julius Martial,<br>
you won't either long for<br>
or wince at<br>
your last day on earth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22x%2C+47%22">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Friend and namesake, genial Martial, life’s <br>
happier when you know what happiness is: <br>
money inherited, with no need to work, <br>
property run by experts (yours or your wife’s), <br>
Town House properly kitchened and no bus-<br>
iness worries, family watchdogs, legal quirks. <br>
Hardly ever required to wear a suit, <br>
mind relaxed and body exercised <br>
(nothing done that’s just seen to be done), <br>
candour matched by tact; friends by repute <br>
won and all guests good-natured -- wise <br>
leavers and warm stayers like the sun; <br>
food that isn’t smart or finicky, <br>
not too often drunk or shaking off <br>
dolorous dreams; your appetite for sex <br>
moderate but inventive, nights like sea-<br> 
scapes under moonlight, never rough;<br>
don’t scare yourself with formulae, like x <br>
equals nought, the schizophrenic quest!<br>
What else is there? Well, two points at least --<br>
wishing change wastes both time and breath,<br>
life's unfair and nothing's for the best,<br>
but having started finish off the feats --<br>
neither dread your last day nor long for death.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/340/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22friend+and+namesake+genial%22">Porter</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Of what does the happy life consist,<br>
<span class="tab">My dear friend, Julius? Here's a list:<br>
Inherited wealth, no need to earn,<br>
<span class="tab">Fires that continually burn,<br>
<span class="tab">And fields that give a fair return,<br>
No lawsuits, formal togas worn<br>
<span class="tab">Seldom, a calm mind, the freeborn<br>
Gentleman's health and good physique,<br>
<span class="tab">Tact with the readiness to speak<br>
Openly, friends of your own mind,<br>
<span class="tab">Guests of an easy-going kind,<br>
Plain food, a table simply set,<br>
<span class="tab">Nights sober but wine-freed from fret,<br>
<span class="tab">A wife who's true to you and yet<br>
No prude in bed, and sleep so sound<br>
<span class="tab">It makes the down come quickly round.<br>
Be pleased with what you are, keep hope<br>
<span class="tab">Within that self-appointed scope;<br>
Neither uneasily apprehend<br>
<span class="tab">Nor morbidly desire the end.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22happy+life%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Most delightful Martialis, the elements of a happy life are as follows: money not worked for but inherited; land not unproductive; a fire all the year round; lawsuits never, a gown rarely worn, a mind at peace; a gentleman's strength, a healthy body; guielessness not naive, friends of like degree, easy company, a table without frills; a night not drunken but free of cares; a marriage bed not austere and yet modest; sleep to make the dark hours short; a wish to be what you are, wish nothing better; don't fear your last day, nor yet pray for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A life so blest you would put none before it?<br>
<span class="tab">Some money, just enough you can ignore it.<br>
Some fertile fields on your producing farm,<br>
<span class="tab">And hearth ablaze within to keep you warm.<br>
No lawsuits, no bought formal wear, no hassle.<br>
<span class="tab">A body trim, without a trainer's wrastle.<br>
A mind secure, with trusting friends, not silly.<br>
<span class="tab">A house with taste designed, not frilly.<br>
Nights drinking deep, but not to stupor given<br>
<span class="tab">A bedmate warm, but not to frenzy driven.<br>
A sleep not enervating that renews.<br>
<span class="tab">A sense of what you are in all your views.<br>
A wish to wish no other thing ahead.<br>
<span class="tab">Acceptance that in time you must be dead.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=10.47">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote><em>My carefree Namesake, this the heart</em><br>
<span class="tab"><em>Shall lead thee to life's happier part:</em><br>
A competence inherited, not one,<br>
Productive acres and a constant home;<br>
No courts, few formal days, your mind stable,<br>
A native figure in a healthy frame;<br>
A tact in candor, friendships on a part,<br>
Convivial courtesies, a plain table;<br>
A night, not drunken, yet shall banish care,<br>
A bed, not frigid, yet not one of shame;<br>
A sleep that makes the dark hours shorter:<br>
Prefer your state and hanker for none other,<br>
Nor fear, nor seek to meet, your final hour.<br>
[tr <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22My%20carefree%20Namesake%22">Whigham</a> (1987), "Means to Attain"]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>These, my dearest Martialis, are<br>
the things that bring a happy life:<br>
wealth left to you, not laboured for;<br>
rich land, an ever-glowing hearth;<br>
no law, light business, and a quiet mind;<br>
a healthy body, gentlemanly powers;<br>
a wise simplicity, friends not unlike;<br>
good company, a table without art;<br>
nights carefree, yet no drunkenness;<br>
a bed that’s modest, true, and yet not cold;<br>
sleep that makes the hours of darkness brief:<br>
the need to be yourself, and nothing more;<br>
not fearing your last day, not wishing it. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123798978:~:text=speak%20the%20vice.-,Book%20X%3A47%C2%A0The%20good%20life,-These%2C%20my%20dearest">Kline</a> (2006), "The Good Life"]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>What constitutes a happy life?<br>
Enough money to meet your needs<br>
steady work<br>
a comfortable fire<br>
a clear distance from law<br>
a minimum of city business<br>
a peaceful mind and a healthy body<br>
simple wisdom and firm friends<br>
enjoyable dinners and plain living<br>
nights free from care<br>
A virtuous wife who's not a prude<br>
enough sleep to make the darkness short<br>
contentment with the life you have,<br>
avoiding the sneer, the poisoned sigh;<br>
no fear of death<br>
and no desire to die.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialart0000kenn/page/54/mode/2up?q=happy">Kennelly</a> (2008), "A happy life"]</blockquote><br>






<blockquote>Most genial Martial, these things are<br>
the elements that make life blessed:<br>
money inherited, not earned;<br>
<span class="tab">a fire year-round, a mind at rest,<br>
productive land, no lawsuits, togas<br>
rarely, friends of like degree,<br>
a gentleman's physique, sound health,<br>
<span class="tab">shrewd innocence, good company,<br>
plain fair, nights carefree, yet not drunk;<br>
a bed that's decent, not austere;<br>
sleep, to make darkness brief desire<br>
to be just what you are, no higher;<br>
<span class="tab">and death no cause for hope or fear.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/80/mode/2up?q=%22most+genial%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

 


<blockquote>These are the things, my dearest Martial, which make life happier: possessions not gotten from labor, but left to you; a not ungrateful field, a fireplace always warm; never any strife, rarely putting on the toga, a quiet mind; inborn strength, a healthy body; wise simplicity and equal friends; easy dining, and a simple table; sober nights, but still free of cares; a bed that isn’t sad, but still with its share of modesty; sleep to make the shadows short; to wish to be what you are, and to desire nothing else; not to fear your final day, nor yet to wish for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2020/07/08/martials-guide-to-happiness/">@sentantiq/Robinson</a> (2020)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 10, epigram  59 (10.59) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. Michie (1972)]</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If an epigram takes up a page, you skip it:<br />
<span class="tab">Art counts for nothing, you prefer the snippet.<br />
The markets have been ransacked for you, reader,<br />
<span class="tab">Rich fare &#8212; and you want canapes instead!<br />
I&#8217;m not concerned with the fastidious feeder:<br />
<span class="tab">Give me the man who likes his basic bread.</p>
<p><em>[Consumpta est uno si lemmate pagina, transis,<br />
Et breviora tibi, non meliora placent.<br />
Dives et ex omni posita est instructa macello<br />
Cena tibi, sed te mattea sola iuvat.<br />
Non opus est nobis nimium lectore guloso;<br />
Hunc volo, non fiat qui sine pane satur.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram  59 (10.59) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22takes+up+a+page%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:10.59">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>If one sole epigram takes up a page,<br>
<span class="tab">You turn it o'er, and will not there engage:<br>
Consulting not its worth, but your dear ease;<br>
<span class="tab">And not what's good, but what is short, does please.<br>
I serve a feast with all the richest fare<br>
<span class="tab">The market yields; for tarts you only care.<br>
My books not fram'd such liq'rish guests to treat,<br>
<span class="tab">But such as relish bread, and solid meat.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If one small theme exhaust a page,<br>
<span class="tab">'Though fli'st upon the wings of rage,<br>
To fewer words, tho' not more fine;<br>
<span class="tab">And met'st my matter, by the line.<br>
A rich repast, from ev'ry stall,<br>
<span class="tab">We see upon thy palate pall.<br>
We fear a sickly appetite,<br>
<span class="tab">Where tid-bits onely can delight.<br>
Out oh! may I receive no guest<br>
<span class="tab">Who picks the tiny for the best.<br>
His taste wills tand him more to sted,<br>
<span class="tab">Who makes no meal up without bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22to%20fewer%20words%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 11]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If one subject occupies a whole page, you pass over it; short epigrams, rather than good ones, seem to please you. A rich repast, consisting of every species of dish, is set before you, out only dainty bits gratify your taste. I do not covet a reader with such an over-nice palate; I want one that is not content to make a meal without bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=If%20one%20subject,meal%20without%20bread.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You have no patience for the page-long skit,<br>
<span class="tab">Your taste is ruled by brevity, not wit.<br>
Ransack the mart, make you a banquet rare,<br>
<span class="tab">You'll pick the titbit from the bill of fare;<br>
I have no use for suchy a dainty guest;<br>
<span class="tab">Who ekes his dinner out with bread is best.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/278/mode/2up?q=%22page-long+skit%22">Street</a> (1907)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If a column is taken up by a single subject, you skip it, and the shorter epigrams please you, not the better. A meal, rich and furnished from every market, has been placed before you, but only a dainty attracts you. I have no need of a reader too nice: I want him who is not satisfied without bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22shorter%20epigrams%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You like the shortest poems, not the best,<br>
<span class="tab">Tis those you always read -- and skip the rest; <br>
I spread a varied banquet for your taste,<br>
<span class="tab">You take made dishes and the rest you waste. <br>
And wrong your appetite, for truth to tell <br>
<span class="tab">A satisfying meal needs bread as well.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/318/mode/2up?q=%22dainty+critic%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You've read one epigram; the rest you skip;<br>
<span class="tab">Shortness, not sweetness suits your censorship.<br>
A whole rich mart's outspread before your feet;<br>
<span class="tab">And yet a small tit-bit's your only treat.<br>
I want no gluttonous reader, no, indeed!<br>
<span class="tab">Still I prefer one who on bread can feed.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22read%20one%20epigram%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924) ep. 554]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If a poem of mine fills up a page,<br>
<span class="tab">You pass it by. You'd rather read<br>
The shorter, not the better ones.<br>
<span class="tab">A fear to answer every need,<br>
Rich and varied, and supplied<br>
<span class="tab">With many viands widely drawn<br>
From every shop is offered you,<br>
<span class="tab">And yet you glance at it with scorn,<br>
The dainties only pleasing you.<br>
<span class="tab">Fussy reader, away! Instead<br>
Give me a guest who with his meal<br>
<span class="tab">Must have some homely peasant bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/118/mode/2up?q=%22to+a+reader%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If a page is used up with a single title, you pass it by; you like the shorter items, not the better ones. A sumptuous dinner furnished from every market is served you, but you care only for a tidbit. I don't want a reader with too fine a palate; give me the man who doesn't feel full without bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A whole damned page crammed with verse -- so you yawn!<br>
<span class="tab">If a poem's too long you move swiftly on;<br>
"Shorter the better!" is your golden rule.<br>
<span class="tab">But markets are scoured to make the tongue drool;<br>
A groaning board's set -- rich sauces for days --<br>
<span class="tab">And yet, dear reader, you want canapés?<br>
But I don't hunger for diners so prude:<br>
<span class="tab">Hail meat and potatoes -- screw finger food!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=A%20whole%20damned,screw%20finger%20food!">Schmidgall</a> (2001)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If just one poem fills a page, you skip it.<br>
<span class="tab">The short ones please you, not the best. I serve<br>
a lavish dinner culled from every market,<br>
<span class="tab">but you are only pleased with the hors d'oeuvre.<br>
A finicky reader's not for me; instead,<br>
<span class="tab">I want one who's not full without some bread.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/82/mode/2up?q=%22just+one+poem%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here rests Erotion&#8217;s all-too-hurried shade, dispatched in her sixth winter by Fate&#8217;s crime. Make yearly offerings to her tiny ghost, whoever rules this plot after my time. So may your home and household last for years with nothing but this stone to call for tears. [Hic festinata requiescit Erotion umbra, Crimine quam fati sexta peremit [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here rests Erotion&#8217;s all-too-hurried shade,<br />
<span class="tab">dispatched in her sixth winter by Fate&#8217;s crime.<br />
Make yearly offerings to her tiny ghost,<br />
<span class="tab">whoever rules this plot after my time.<br />
So may your home and household last for years<br />
<span class="tab">with nothing but this stone to call for tears.</p>
<p><em>[Hic festinata requiescit Erotion umbra,<br />
Crimine quam fati sexta peremit hiems.<br />
Quisquis eris nostri post me regnator agelli,<br />
Manibus exiguis annus iusta dato:<br />
Sic lare perpetuo, sic turba sospite solus<br />
Flebilis in terra sit lapis iste tua.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram  61 (10.61) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/82/mode/2up?q=%22here+rests%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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See also his epitaph to Erotion at <a href="https://wist.info/martial/48119/">5.34</a>.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:10.61">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>In her sixth spring, behold Erotion laid:<br>
<span class="tab">If heaven we might arrain, an early shade.<br>
Bland successor, whoe'er shall rule this field,<br>
<span class="tab">To my blest shadeling annual honors yield.<br>
So may thy verdant vine perennial stand:<br>
<span class="tab">So may her teeming shoots o'erspred the land.<br>
So may'st thou never feel a tendrel tor'n:<br>
<span class="tab">And may this single stone in thy dominion mourn.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22behod%20erotion%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 4, ep. 20]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Underneath this greedy stone,<br>
<span class="tab">Lies little sweet Erotion;<br>
Whom the fates, with hearts as cold,<br>
<span class="tab">Nipt away at six years old.<br>
Thou, whoever thou mast be,<br>
<span class="tab">That hast this small field after me,<br>
Let the yearly rites be paid<br>
<span class="tab">To her little slender shade;<br>
So shall no disease or jar<br>
<span class="tab">Hurt thy house, or chill thy Lar;<br>
But this tomb here be alone,<br>
<span class="tab">The only melancholy stone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22underneath%20this%20greedy%20stone%22">Hunt</a> (1819)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here reposes Erotion in the shade of the tomb that too early closed around her, snatched away by relentless Fate in her sixth winter. Whoever you are that, after me, shall rule over these lands, render annual presents to her gentle shade. So, with undisturbed possession, so, with your family ever in health, may this stone be the only one of a mournful description on your domain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=Here%20reposes%20Erotion,on%20your%20domain.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here lies Erotion in the shade<br>
<span class="tab">Of foliage planted newly. <br>
In her sixth winter did she fade,<br>
<span class="tab">Cut off by fate unduly.<br>
Thou, whosoe'er thou be, to whom<br>
<span class="tab">Ere long these fields I render, <br>
The annual offerings at her tomb<br>
<span class="tab">Discharge; they are but slender.<br>
So, son succeeding sire, from thee <br>
<span class="tab">No victims death shall borrow:<br>
But on thy land this stone shall be <br>
<span class="tab">The only mark of sorrow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams00martrich/page/124/mode/2up?q=%22Here+lies+Erotion%22">Webb</a> (1879)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here lies Erotion, whom at six years old<br>
<span class="tab">Fate pilfered. Stranger (when I too am cold<br>
Who shall succeed me in my rural field),<br>
<span class="tab">To this small spirit annual honours yield.<br>
Bright be thy hearth, hale be thy babes, I crave,<br>
<span class="tab">And this, in thy green farm, the only grave.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/262/mode/2up?q=%22here+lies+erotion%22">Stevenson</a> (1883)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here in too early gloom rests Erotion whom, by crime of Fate, her sixth winter laid low. Whoe'er thou shalt be, the lord after me of my little field, to her tiny ghost pay thou year by year thy rites. So may they roof-tree continue, so thy household live unscathed, and in thy fields this gravestone alone call forth a tear!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20early%20gloom%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here sleeps the body of the little maid, <br>
<span class="tab">Erotion,<br>
Ere her sixth winter fate had called her shade <br>
<span class="tab">To hasten on;<br>
Whoe’er thou art who after me shall own <br>
<span class="tab">This tiny plot,<br>
Lay year by year the dues upon her stone; <br>
<span class="tab">Forget her not.<br>
So shall thy house endure nor suffering know, <br>
<span class="tab">And this remain<br>
The only sign and monument of woe <br>
<span class="tab">On thy domain.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/318/mode/2up?q=%22EROTION%E2%80%99S+GRAVE%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here lies Erotion at untimely date,<br>
<span class="tab">In his sixth year cut down by cruel fate.<br>
You, my successor in this little field,<br>
<span class="tab">To his poor ashes annual tribute yield.<br>
So prosper house and home, and on this land<br>
<span class="tab">No other monument of mourning stand.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22here%20lies%20erotion%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 556]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here lies our Erotion<br>
<span class="tab">in the untimely shadow of a gravestone.<br>
Her sixth winter hurried her on<br>
<span class="tab">to an end that was destined.<br>
I address the future owner of this land,<br>
<span class="tab">and ask his yearly reverence, made<br>
to this slender shade:<br>
<span class="tab">May your household gods<br>
forever flourish and your whole household enjoy<br>
<span class="tab">a happy life --<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">and may this single stone<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">be the one place for grief<br>
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">on your land alone.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigramsofmartia0000mart_q2h6/page/164/mode/2up?q=erotion">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here, six years old, by Destiny's crime<br>
<span class="tab">Made a ghost before her time,<br>
Erotion lies. Whoever you be<br>
<span class="tab">Next lord of my small property,<br>
See that the due of death are paid<br>
<span class="tab">Annually to her slender shade:<br>
So may your hearth burn bright and strong,<br>
<span class="tab">Your household thrive, yourself live long,<br>
And this small stone, throughout the years,<br>
<span class="tab">Remain your only cause for tears.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/128/mode/2up?q=%22erotion+lies%22">Michie</a> (1972)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Here lies Erotion's hastened shade, whom by crime of Fate her sixth winter slew. Make annual offering to her tiny ghost, whoever after me shall be ruler of my plot of land. So may your home continue and your household live on and this stone be the only thing on your property to call for tears.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Here in premature gloom Erotion rests<br>
whose sixth winter now will last forever.<br>
<span class="tab">Whoever tends this small field after me,<br>
pay each year homage to her slender ghost:<br>
then you will prosper here and never<br>
<span class="tab">weep, except this stone bring her to memory.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/1996.07.05/#:~:text=Here%20in%20premature%20gloom%20Erotion%20rests%0Awhose%20sixth%20winter%20now%20will%20last%20forever.%0AWhoever%20tends%20this%20small%20field%20after%20me%2C%0Apay%20each%20year%20homage%20to%20her%20slender%20ghost%3A%0Athen%20you%20will%20prosper%20here%20and%20never%0Aweep%2C%20except%20this%20stone%20bring%20her%20to%20memory.">Matthews</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>



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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 10, epigram  83 (10.83) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;A Most Delicate Matter&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the gleaming expanse on the top of your head, Marinus, seems painfully wide, You gather together and spread on the tract The hairs that remain on each side. But the breath of the wind promptly blows them about And straightway the middle space clears. And long strands so surround the bare waste that you [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the gleaming expanse on the top of your head,<br />
Marinus, seems painfully wide,<br />
You gather together and spread on the tract<br />
The hairs that remain on each side.<br />
But the breath of the wind promptly blows them about<br />
And straightway the middle space clears.<br />
And long strands so surround the bare waste that you seem<br />
Like a Roundhead &#8216;twixt two Cavaliers.<br />
Now why not be candid, confess that you&#8217;re old,<br />
Meet nature with heart unappalled?<br />
You&#8217;ll at least then seem one man: there&#8217;s nothing so bad<br />
As a being hirsute and yet bald.</p>
<p><em>[Raros colligis hinc et hinc capillos<br />
Et latum nitidae, Marine, calvae<br />
Campum temporibus tegis comatis;<br />
Sed moti redeunt iubente vento<br />
Reddunturque sibi caputque nudum<br />
Cirris grandibus hinc et inde cingunt:<br />
Inter Spendophorum Telesphorumque<br />
Cydae stare putabis Hermerotem.<br />
Vis tu simplicius senem fateri,<br />
Ut tandem videaris unus esse!<br />
Calvo turpius est nihil comato.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 10, epigram  83 (10.83) (AD 95, 98 ed.) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;A Most Delicate Matter&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/84/mode/2up?q=bald" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Marinus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:10.83">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Your thin-sown hairs on any side<br>
With dextrous care you cull;<br>
And rob your temples of their pride,<br>
To thatch your shining skull.<br>
Repell'd by ev'ry puff of wind,<br>
They take their former stand,<br>
And then your desert poll they bind,<br>
With locks in either hand.<br>
So 'twixt two tuzzy youthful pates,<br>
One Halmyrotes sees.<br>
Throw ridicule no more such baits:<br>
The bare old-man will please.<br>
But, that at length you may seem one,<br>
The shaver quick be call'd;<br>
And let him o'er the remnant run:<br>
Belock'd! oh shame! and bald!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22dextrous%20care%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 6, part 2, ep. 17]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You collect together a few locks of hair that remain on your temples, and cover with them the wide expanse of your shining bald pate; but no sooner are the locks commanded by the wind than they return to their places; and, as before, they gird, on each side, your naked head; just as if Cidas's statue of the old man were placed between two youths having luxuriant hair. Will you candidly confess your senility? In order that you may appear what you really are, let some barber shave the remnant of your hairs; <i>nothing is more disgraceful than a bald man wearing hair.</i><br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/194/mode/2up?q=%22You+collect+together%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 4, #138]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You collect your straggling hairs on each side, Marinus, endeavouring to conceal the vast expanse of your shining bald pate by the locks which still grow on your temples. But the hairs disperse, and return to their own place with every gust of wind; flanking your bare pole on either side with crude tufts. We might imagine we saw Hermeros of Cydas standing between Spendophorus and Telesphorus.  Why not confess yourself an old man? Be content to seem what you really are, and let the barber shave off the rest of your hair. There is nothing more contemptible than a bald man who pretends to have hair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book10.htm#:~:text=You%20collect%20your,to%20have%20hair.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From one side and the other you gather up your scanty locks and you cover, Marinus, the wide expanse of your shining bald scalp with the hair form both sides of your head. But blown about, they come back at the bidding of the wind, and return to themselves and gird your bare poll with big culres on this side and on that. You would think that Hermeros of Cydas is standing between Spendophorus and Telephorus. Will you, please, in simpler fashion confess yourself old, so as after all to appear a single person? Nothing is more unsightly than a bald man covered with hair.<br> 
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=marinus">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You scrape a few hairs from the side of your head,<br>
So that over your bare-shining baldness they spread; <br>
But blown by the wind they return to their place <br>
And with two big curls your poor naked poll grace. <br>
You’ld think that we had old Silenus in sight <br>
Between young Adonis and Hermaphrodite.<br>
Confess your old age and leave all your head bare: <br>
There’s nothing more ugly than bald men with hair<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/326/mode/2up?q=%22TO+MARIN+US%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your scattered side-locks to a bunch you train,<br>
And draw a forest to the shining plain.<br>
Then comes the wind, and once again are seen<br>
Two curly masses with a space between.<br>
Spendophorus and Telesphorus you'ld swear<br>
And Hermerotes in the midst were there.<br>
Be one, Marinus; your old age confess;<br>
A bald coot feathered vaunts his ugliness.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22572%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #572 "To One Who Hides His Baldness"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Marinus, you collect your scattered locks from this side and from that, and cover the broad expanse of your shining baldness with hair from your temples. But at the wind's bidding they move and return and are restored to themselves, to surround your bare top with big curls on either side. You would think that Cydas' Hermeros was standing between Spendophorus and Telesphorus. Why not be straightforward and admit to being an old man, so that at least you look like <i>one</i> man? Nothing is uglier than a baldhead with a lot of hair.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/martial-epigrams-books-6-10-2-0674995562-9780674995567.html">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your hairs are carefully disposed<br>
Lest your bald pate should be disclosed.<br>
But winds lift them in wavy drifts,<br>
Moved in a blur of constant shifts.<br>
How can you have so little hair,<br>
Yet have it show up everywhere?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22carefully%20disposed%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Tis rare, when riches cannot taint the mind. [Ardua res haec est opibus non tradere mores.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Wealth to withstand, how arduous is the skill! [tr. Elphinston (1782), Appendix to Book 1, ep. 12] It is an arduous task to preserve morality from the corruption of riches. [tr. Bohn&#8217;s Classical (1859)] &#8216;Tis [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis rare, when riches cannot taint the mind. </p>
<p><em>[Ardua res haec est opibus non tradere mores.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram   5 (11.5.3) (AD 96) [tr. Killigrew (1695)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22taint%20the%20mind%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D11%3Apoem%3D5#:~:text=Ardua%20res%20haec%20est%2C%20opibus%20non%20tradere%20mores">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Wealth to withstand, how arduous is the skill!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22wealth%20to%20withstand%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Appendix to Book 1, ep. 12]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is an arduous task to preserve morality from the corruption of riches.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=It%20is%20an%20arduous%20task%20to%20preserve%20morality%20from%20the%20corruption%20of%20riches">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis a hard task not to surrender morality for riches.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/TPENAAAAYAAJ?q=martial+%22hard+task+not+to+surrender+morality%22&gbpv=1#f=false">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>'Tis a hard task this, not to sacrifice manners to wealth. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sacrifice%20manners%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Riches sap morals.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a hard thing not to sacrifice morals to wealth.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/6/mode/2up?q=%22sacrifice+morals%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>It is a hard business, not to compromise morals for riches.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=AqHKBwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA289&vq=xi&pg=PA189#v=snippet&q=xi&f=false">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 11, epigram  16 (11.16) (AD 96) [tr. Schmidgall (2001)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You there, reader, the over-solemn one, Take a hike wherever &#8212; my verse is spun Only for blithe, witty cognoscenti &#8220;Up&#8221; for priapic jeux de spree aplenty Or aroused by bells on harlot&#8217;s fingers. He who in these randy pages lingers &#8212; Though more stern than Curius or Fabricius Soon gets tingly, and anon lubricious; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You there, reader, the over-solemn one,<br />
<span class="tab">Take a hike wherever &#8212; my verse is spun<br />
Only for blithe, witty cognoscenti<br />
<span class="tab">&#8220;Up&#8221; for priapic <em>jeux de spree</em> aplenty<br />
Or aroused by bells on harlot&#8217;s fingers.<br />
<span class="tab">He who in these randy pages lingers &#8212;<br />
Though more stern than Curius or Fabricius<br />
<span class="tab">Soon gets tingly, and anon lubricious;<br />
Then, lo, beneath a toga something pokes.<br />
<span class="tab">My little book&#8217;s salacious whims and jokes<br />
Will lead even the chastest dames astray;<br />
<span class="tab">Taken with wine, my lines can make &#8217;em bray!<br />
Lucretia, more proper than whom none such,<br />
<span class="tab">Peeked between my covers, blushed very much,<br />
And threw me down (but Brutus stood glowering).<br />
<span class="tab">Brutus, &#8220;Ciao!&#8221; &#8212; and back she&#8217;ll be devouring.</p>
<p><em>[Qui gravis es nimium, potes hinc iam, lector, abire<br />
Quo libet: urbanae scripsimus ista togae;<br />
Iam mea Lampsacio lascivit pagina versu<br />
Et Tartesiaca concrepat aera manu.<br />
O quotiens rigida pulsabis pallia vena,<br />
Sis gravior Curio Fabricioque licet!<br />
Tu quoque nequitias nostri lususque libelli<br />
Uda, puella, leges, sis Patavina licet.<br />
Erubuit posuitque meum Lucretia librum,<br />
Sed coram Bruto; Brute, recede: leget.]</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram  16 (11.16) (AD 96) [tr. Schmidgall (2001)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/41167/the-poets-life-from-martials-epigrams#:~:text=You%20there%2C%20reader,she%27ll%20be%20devouring." target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:11.16">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>To read my Booke the Virgin shie<br>
<span class="tab">May blush, (while <i>Brutus</i> standeth by:)<br>
But when He's gone, read through what's write,<br>
<span class="tab">And never staine a cheeke for it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22read+my+Booke%22">Herrick</a> (1658), "On his Booke"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Haste hence, morose remarker, haste:<br>
<span class="tab">Urbanity alone has taste.<br>
No strains Lampsacian foul my page,<br>
<span class="tab">Nor feels my brass Tartessian rage.<br>
yet here the mirth that cannot cloy,<br>
<span class="tab">Shall often shake thy sides with joy:<br>
Suppose thy mind of graver mold,<br>
<span class="tab">Than Curius' self possest of old;<br>
Or had thy features greater force,<br>
<span class="tab">Than his, that brav'd the solar course.<br>
Nay thou my nonsense keen shalt read,<br>
<span class="tab">Meek made of Patavinian breed.<br>
Lucretia blusht, and dropt the book;<br>
<span class="tab">Nor, Brutus there, would dain a look.<br>
Brutus, begone: thy dame, at ease<br>
<span class="tab">Will show how my perusals please.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22haste%20hence%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 64, "To the Morose"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Reader, if you are exceedingly staid, you may shut up my book whenever you please; I write now for the idlers of the city; my verses are devoted to the god of Lampsacus, and my hand shakes the castanet, as briskly as a dancing-girl of Cadiz. Oh! how often will you feel your desires aroused, even though you were more frigid than Curius and Fabricius. You too, young damsel, will read the gay and sportive sallies of my book not without emotion, even though you should be a native of Patavium. Lucretia blushes, and lays my book aside; but Brutus is present. Let Brutus retire, and she will read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=Reader%2C%20if%20you,she%20will%20read.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859). "To His Readers"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You, reader, who are too strait-laced, can now go away from here whither you will: I wrote these verses for the citizen of wit; now my page wantons in verse of Lampascus, and beats the timbrel with the hand of a figurante of Tartessus. Oh, how often will you with your ardour disarrange your garb, though you may be more strait-laced than Curius and Fabricus! You also, O girl, may, when in your cups, read the naughtiness and sportive sallis of my little book, though you may be from Patavium. Lucretia blushed and laid down my volume; but Brutus was present. Brutus, go away: she will read it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22too%20strait-laced%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Grave reader, go -- wherever you may please --<br>
<span class="tab">I'm writing now for Roman cits at ease.<br>
This scroll is full of Priapean rhymes<br>
<span class="tab">And sound of castanets from Spanish climes.<br>
Though you more stern than ancient Curius be<br>
<span class="tab">You will be fired, methinks, if you read me.<br>
Yet modest maidens at this sportive book<br>
<span class="tab">May in their cups perchance with favour look,<br>
And matrons hide it from their lords away --<br>
<span class="tab">Meaning to finish it some other day.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/342/mode/2up?q=%22warning+to+prudes%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "A Warning to Prudes"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Too serious reader, you may leave at this point and go where you please. I wrote these pieces for the city gown; now my page frolics with verse of Lampsacus and clashes the cymbals with Tartesian hand. Oh, how often you will strike your garment with rigid member, though you be graver than Curius and Fabricius. You also, my girl, will not be dry as you read the naughty jests of my little book, though you come from Patavium. Lucretia blushed and put my book aside, but that was in front of Brutus. Brutus, withdraw: she will read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/16/mode/2up?q=%22too+serious+reader%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You can leave now, Reader, over-severe,<br>
go, where you please: I write for the city;<br>
my page, now, runs wild with Priapic verse,<br>
strikes the cymbals, with a dancing-girl’s hand.<br>
O, how you’ll beat your cloak in rigid vein,<br>
though you’re weightier than Curius, Fabricius!<br>
You too, that read naughty jokes in my little book,<br>
you’ll be wet, girl, though you’re from moral Padua.<br>
Lucretia would have blushed, and shut my volume,<br>
while Brutus was there; but when he left: she’d have read.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123799004:~:text=You%20can%20leave,she%E2%80%99d%20have%20read.">Kline</a> (2006)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Persnickety readers, time to leave!<br>
<span class="tab">I now write stuff to make you grieve.<br>
My toga off, my lines will jiggle<br>
<span class="tab">And with the bellydancer wriggle.<br>
Now what we wear will ask no pardon<br>
<span class="tab">For standing out with sculptured hard-on.<br>
To make the Founding Fathers horny,<br>
<span class="tab">And Boston matrons less than thorny --<br>
They'll lather up between their thighs<br>
<span class="tab">And wonder at their fellows' size.<br>
Of course Lucretia will not look<br>
<span class="tab">Till Brutus goes -- then: Seize the book!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hardon">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Let every prudish reader use his feet<br>
<span class="tab">And bugger off -- I write for the elite.<br>
My verses gambol with Priapic verve<br>
<span class="tab">As dancing harlots' patter starts a nerve.<br>
Though stern as Curius or like Fabricius,<br>
<span class="tab">Your prick will stiffen and grow vicious.<br>
Girls while they drink -- even the chastest folk --<br>
<span class="tab">Will read each naughty word and dirty joke.<br>
Lucretia blushes, throws away my book.<br>
<span class="tab">Her husband goes. She takes another look.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22let%20every%20prudish%20reader%22">Reid</a>]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 11, epigram  62 (11.62) (AD 96) [tr. Wills (2007)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sylvia never gives free lays. It&#8217;s never free &#8212; because she pays. [Lesbia se iurat gratis numquam esse fututam. Verum est. Cum futui vult, numerare solet.] (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Lesbia protests that no one has ever obtained her favours without payment. That is true; when she wants a lover, she herself pays. [tr. Bohn&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvia never gives free lays.<br />
It&#8217;s never free &#8212; because she pays.</p>
<p><em>[Lesbia se iurat gratis numquam esse fututam.<br />
Verum est. Cum futui vult, numerare solet.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram  62 (11.62) (AD 96) [tr. Wills (2007)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22free%20lays%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:11.62">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia protests that no one has ever obtained her favours without payment.<br> 
That is true; when she wants a lover, she herself pays.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=Lesbia%20protests%20that%20no%20one%20has%20ever%20obtained%20her%20favours%20without%20payment.%20That%20is%20true%3B%20when%20she%20wants%20a%20lover%2C%20she%20herself%20pays.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she has never granted her favours without a price.<br> 
That is true: on those occasions she is wont herself to pay it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lesbia%20swears%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>She never gives herself for love? No doubt.<br>
She has to buy her loves or do without!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/356/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Bought Pleasures"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she's never been had<br>
<span class="tab">Gratis. That's true. You see:<br>
When she is in one of her amorous moods,<br>
<span class="tab">It's she who pays, not we.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/130/mode/2up?q=lesbia">Marcellino</a> (1968), ]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia claims she's never been laid<br>
Without good money being paid.<br>
That's true enough: when she's on fire<br>
She'll always pay the hose's hire.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/vTKq7EFMBDoC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lesbia%20claims%22&printsec=frontcover">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she's never been fucked for free.<br>
True, for when she wants it, she pays the fee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=%22lesbia%20swears%22">Pitt-Kethley</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she's never screwed for free.<br>
That's true, for when she's fucked, she pays the fee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/literarycompanio0000unse_l6g1/page/32/mode/2up?q=martial">Pitt-Kethley</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears that she has never been fucked free of charge. <br>
It's true. When she wants to be fucked, she is accustomed to pay cash.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-11-14-3-0674995295-9780674995291-k-4493753.html#:~:text=Lesbia%20swears%20that%20she%20has%20never%20been%20fucked%20free%20of%20charge.%20lt%27s%20true.%20When%20she%20wants%20to%20be%20fucked%2C%20she%20is%20accustomed%20to%20pay%20cash.">Shackleton-Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>She swears she never puts out for free.<br>
(Though she's the one who pays the fee.)<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she’s never been fucked for free.<br>
True. When she wants to be fucked, she has to pay.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Martial.php#anchor_Toc123799007">Kline</a> (2006), "On the Nail"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lesbia swears she never gives free lays.<br>
It's true: when she gets fucked, she always pays.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22lesbia%20swears%22&f=false">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Informer, libel-monger, cut-throat, knave, Pander, to every loathsome vice a slave, Vacerra, it is marvellous that you With these resources are a pauper, too. [Et delator es et calumniator, Et fraudator es et negotiator, Et fellator es et lanista. Miror Quare non habeas, Vacerra, nummos.] &#8220;To Vacerra.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Thou art a slanderer [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Informer, libel-monger, cut-throat, knave,<br />
<span class="tab">Pander, to every loathsome vice a slave,<br />
Vacerra, it is marvellous that you<br />
<span class="tab">With these resources are a pauper, too.</p>
<p><em>[Et delator es et calumniator,<br />
Et fraudator es et negotiator,<br />
Et fellator es et lanista. Miror<br />
Quare non habeas, Vacerra, nummos.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram  66 (11.66) (AD 96) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/356/mode/2up?q=vacerra" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Vacerra." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:11.66">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Thou art a slanderer and delator,<br>
<span class="tab">False dealer, pimp, and fornicator:<br>
Where such rare parts and trades are found,<br>
<span class="tab">I wonder much, thy purse does not abound.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA529">Killigrew</a> (1695)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You an informer are; and a back-biter:<br>
<span class="tab">A common sharper; and a hackney writer:<br>
A whore-master; and master of defence:<br>
<span class="tab">Jack of all trades; strange! that you want the pence!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA175&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22you%20an%20informer%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 67]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Vile informer, slander's child!<br>
<span class="tab">Dealer, who hast still beguil'd!<br>
Shield of war, and soul of arms,<br>
<span class="tab">How hast thou no golden charms?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22vile%20informer%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 6.1.39]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are an informer, a calumniator, a forger, a secret agent, a slave to the unclean, and a trainer of gladiators. I wonder, Vacerra, why you have no money.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=You%20are%20an%20informer%2C%20a%20calumniator%2C%20a%20forger%2C%20a%20secret%20agent%2C%20a%20slave%20to%20the%20unclean%2C%20and%20a%20trainer%20of%20gladiators.%20I%20wonder%2C%20Vacerra%2C%20why%20you%20have%20no%20money.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're a blackmailer, bruiser and liar,<br>
A usurer, pimp and a cheat:<br>
<span class="tab">With methods so sound <br>
<span class="tab">I'm surprised that you've found<br>
Gaining wealth an impossible feat.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/90/mode/2up">Nixon</a> (1911)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are an informer and a backbiter, and you are a cheat and a pimp, and you are a foul rascal and a master of gladiators. I wonder why you are not rich, Vacerra.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22informer%20and%20a%20backbiter%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're an informer and tool of slander<br>
<span class="tab">And a notorious swindler and a pander<br>
And a cock-sucker and a gangster and a ...<br>
I can't make out, Vacerra, why you're poor.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/146/mode/2up?q=vacerra">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're an informer and a slanderer, a swindler and a dealer, a sucker and a trainer. I wonder why you don't have any money, Vacerra.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/58/mode/2up?q=Vacerra">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>X is a sneak <br>
and a liar,<br>
And a fraud,<br>
and a pimp,<br>
And an arselicker who coaches others, and....<br>
...I really can't work out why he isn't a Director yet.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.druidic.org/poetry.htm#:~:text=Martial%2C%20Epigrams%2C%20Book,a%20Director%20yet.">Ynys-Mon</a> (2015), "The Corporate Conundrum"]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>How can the slippery son of a bitch,<br>
With all his vices, not be rich?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=11.66">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're an informer, slanderer, cocksucker, swindler, panderer, and fight instructor. It seems funny, Vacerra, that you have no money.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=informer,%20slanderer&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're an informer and a lying witness,<br>
a defrauder and a middleman,<br>
a cocksucker and a provocateur.<br>
Vacerra, I can't understand why you're not rich.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA159&printsec=frontcover&bsq=66%20vacerra">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 11, epigram  93 (11.93) (AD 96) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;An Oversight&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The house of the bard Theodorus burned down! What an insult, O Muses, to you! The gods have done wrong: For the credit of song The bard &#8212; should have burned with it, too. &#160; [Pierios vatis Theodori flamma penates Abstulit. Hoc Musis et tibi, Phoebe, placet? O scelus, o magnum facinus crimenque deorum, Non [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The house of the bard Theodorus burned down!<br />
<span class="tab">What an insult, O Muses, to you!<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">The gods have done wrong:<br />
<span class="tab"><span class="tab">For the credit of song<br />
The bard &#8212; should have burned with it, too.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[Pierios vatis Theodori flamma penates<br />
Abstulit. Hoc Musis et tibi, Phoebe, placet?<br />
O scelus, o magnum facinus crimenque deorum,<br />
Non arsit pariter quod domus et dominus!]</em></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram  93 (11.93) (AD 96) [tr. Nixon (1911), &#8220;An Oversight&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/14/mode/2up?q=theodorus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"On Theodorus, a Bad Poet." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:11.93">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Flames Theodore's Pierian roofs did seize.<br>
<span class="tab">Can this Apollo, this the Muses, please?<br>
O oversight of the gods! O dire disaster!<br>
<span class="tab">To burn the harmless house, and spare the master!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dire%20disaster%22">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor poet Dogrel's house consum'd by fire?<br>
<span class="tab">Is the muse pleas'd? or father of the lyre?<br>
O cruel Fate! what injury you do,<br>
<span class="tab">To burn the house! and not the master too!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22poor%20poet%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 94]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The poor poet Theodore's goods, in a flame,<br>
<span class="tab">Gave you, wicked Muses, and Phebus full glee.<br>
Ye sov'rain disposers, what sin and what shame,<br>
<span class="tab">That holder and house so disparted should be!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22on%20theodorus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 49]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fitzgerald's house hath been on fire -- the Nine<br>
<span class="tab">All smiling saw that pleasant bonfire shine.<br>
Yet -- cruel Gods! Oh! ill-contrived disaster!<br>
<span class="tab">The house is burnt -- the house -- without the Master!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/242/mode/2up?q=%22hath+been+on+fire%22">Byron</a> (c. 1820); referencing Irish/British poet, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomas_Fitzgerald">William Thomas Fitzgerald</a> (1759-1829)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The flames have destroyed the Pierian dwelling of the bard Theodorus. Is this agreeable to you, you muses, and you, Phoebus? Oh shame, oh great wrong and scandal of the gods, that house and householder were not burned together!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=The%20flames%20have%20destroyed%20the%20Pierian%20dwelling%20of%20the%20bard%20Theodorus.%20Is%20this%20agreeable%20to%20you%2C%20you%20muses%2C%20and%20you%2C%20Phoebus%3F%20Oh%20shame%2C%20oh%20great%20wrong%20and%20scandal%20of%20the%20gods%2C%20that%20house%20and%20householder%20were%20not%20burned%20together!">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The poetic abode of bard Theodorus a fire has destroyed. Does this please you, ye Muses, and you, Phoebus? Oh, what guilt, oh, what a huge crime and scandal of the gods is here! House and master did! House and master did not burn together!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22poetic%20abode%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A poet’s house consumed by fire!<br> 
<span class="tab">Phoebus and ye, the heavenly choir, <br>
What vengeance will ye now require <br>
<span class="tab">For such a fell disaster?<br>
How foul a deed, how black a shame! <br>
<span class="tab">Can men acquit the gods of blame <br>
When they delivered to the flame<br>
<span class="tab">The house and not its master?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/364/mode/2up?q=%22THE+GODS%E2%80%99+MISTAKE%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Gods' Mistake"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Where were ye, Muses, when in angry flame<br>
<span class="tab">Sank Pye's Pierian dwelling? Phoebus, shame!<br>
Oh cruel sin, o scandal to the sky,<br>
<span class="tab">To bake the Pye-dish and forget the Pye!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22where%20were%20ye%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 634; referring to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_James_Pye">Henry James Pye</a> (1745-1813), Poet Laureate of the UK]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Not a single trace remains<br>
<span class="tab">Of poet Theodorus' home.<br>
Everything completely burned,<br>
<span class="tab">Every last poetic tome!<br>
You Muses and Apollo too,<br>
<span class="tab">Now are you fully satisfied?<br>
O monstrous shame that when it burned<br>
<span class="tab">The poet was not trapped inside!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/136/mode/2up?q=%22single+trace+remains%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Flames have gutted th' abode Pierian<br>
<span class="tab">Of the wide-renowned poet Theodorus.<br>
Didst thou permit this sacrilege, Apollo?<br>
<span class="tab">Where were ye, Muse's Chorus?<br>
Ay me, I fondly sight, that was a crime,<br>
<span class="tab">A wicked deed, a miserable disaster.<br>
Ye gods are much to blame: ye burnt the house<br>
<span class="tab">But failed to singe its master!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?gbpv=1&bsq=theodorus">Wender</a> (1980)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ted's studio burnt down, with all his poems.<br>
<span class="tab">Have the Muses hung their heads?<br>
You bet, for it was criminal neglect<br>
<span class="tab">not also to have sautéed Ted.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedpoemstra00matt/page/138/mode/2up?q=%22ted%27s+studio+burnt%22">Matthews</a> (1992)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fire has consumed the Pierian home of poet Theodoras. Does this please the Muses and you, Phoebus? Oh crime, oh monstrous villainy and reproach to heaven! -- that house and householder did not perish together.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/76/mode/2up?q=%22pierian+home%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Flames took the home of poet Theodorus.<br>
<span class="tab">Are the Muses and Phoebus pleased with this disaster?<br>
What a great crime and insult to the gods<br>
<span class="tab">not to have burned together home and master!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/94/mode/2up?q=%22poet+theodorus%22a">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 11, epigram 108 (11.108) (AD 96) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;A Hint&#8221;]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though so lengthy a book should your taste satisfy, You have asked me for more: but my household will cry For some food, and the usurer’s drained me quite dry; So reader &#8230; you see what I mean to imply? You are silent and don’t understand me? Good bye! [Quamvis tam longo possis satur esse [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though so lengthy a book should your taste satisfy,<br />
You have asked me for more: but my household will cry<br />
<span class="tab">For some food, and the usurer’s drained me quite dry;<br />
So reader &#8230; you see what I mean to imply?<br />
<span class="tab">You are silent and don’t understand me? Good bye!</p>
<p><em>[Quamvis tam longo possis satur esse libello,<br />
Lector, adhuc a me disticha pauca petis.<br />
Sed Lupus usuram puerique diaria poscunt.<br />
Lector, solve. Taces dissimulasque? Vale.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 11, epigram 108 (11.108) (AD 96) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921), &#8220;A Hint&#8221;] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/368/mode/2up?q=%22cviii+a+hint%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To the Reader." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:11.108">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>With my long book thou well may'st glutted be,<br>
<span class="tab">Yet thou more epigrams exact'st of me:<br>
But Lupus calls for use, servants for pay,<br>
<span class="tab">Discharge them, reader. Now thou'st nought to say,<br>
Dissemblest, as my words thou could'st not spell.<br>
<span class="tab">No riddle thou'rt to me, reader, farewell.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA544">Killigrew</a> (1695)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although, reader, you may well be tired of so long a book, you still want a few more distichs from me. But Lupus demands his interest; and my copyists their wages. Pay, reader. You are silent; do you pretend not to hear? Then, goodbye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book11.htm#:~:text=Although%2C%20reader%2C%20you%20may%20well%20be%20tired%20of%20so%20long%20a%20book%2C%20you%20still%20want%20a%20few%20more%20distichs%20from%20me.%20But%20Lupus%201%20demands%20his%20interest%3B%20and%20my%20copyists%20their%20wages.%20Pay%2C%20reader.%20You%20are%20silent%3B%20do%20you%20pretend%20not%20to%20hear%3F%20Then%2C%20goodbye.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although with so long a book you may well be sated, reader, yiou still ask for a few distichs from me. But Lupus requires his interest, and my slaves their rations. Reader, pay me. Do you say nothing, and pretend yuo don't understand? Good bye!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22so%20long%20a%20book%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Contented reader -- I had thought to say,<br>
<span class="tab">But something's wanting? Then perhaps you'll pay.<br>
My bailiff's broke, my lads for victuals cry;<br>
<span class="tab">What? Silent? Can't afford it? Then good-bye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20postscript%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 639,  "A Postscript"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I should have thought you'd had your fill<br>
<span class="tab">By now -- this book's too long -- yet still<br>
You clamour for couplets. You forget,<br>
<span class="tab">My slaves need rations, I'm in debt,<br>
The interest's due ... Dear reader, pay<br>
<span class="tab">My creditors for me. Silent, eh?<br>
<span class="tab">The puzzled innocent? Good-day!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/158/mode/2up?q=%22had+your+fill%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Reader, although you might well be satisfied with so long a little book, you ask me for a few couplets more. But Lupus demands his interest and the boys their rations. Pay up, reader. You say nothing and pretend not to hear? Good-bye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/86/mode/2up?q=%22Lupus+demands%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Reader, so long a book should satisfy you,<br>
<span class="tab">yet still "a few more couplets," you reply.<br>
But boys want food and Lupus wants his interest.<br>
<span class="tab">Pay up! You're silent, playing deaf? Goodbye.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/96/mode/2up?q=%22book+should+satisfy%22">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A little book this long could satisfy your appetite, reader, but still you ask me for a few couplets more; but Lupus wants his interest, and my boys, their rations. Reader, clear my slate. Nothing to say? Pretending you're deaf? Get lost!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22you're%20deaf%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a man who&#8217;s wangled millions; Yet the parasite&#8217;s not done. Fortune gives too much to many, Yet, strange to say, enough to none. [Habet Africanus miliens, tamen captat. Fortuna multis dat nimis, satis nulli.] &#8220;On Africanus.&#8221; Africanus is identified in some sources as a captator, one who sucked up to a childless millionaire in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a man who&#8217;s wangled millions;<br />
<span class="tab">Yet the parasite&#8217;s not done.<br />
Fortune gives too much to many,<br />
<span class="tab">Yet, strange to say, enough to none.</p>
<p><em>[Habet Africanus miliens, tamen captat.<br />
Fortuna multis dat nimis, satis nulli.]</em></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  10 (12.10) (AD 101) [tr. Marcellino (1968)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/138/mode/2up?q=africanus" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"On Africanus." Africanus is identified in some sources as a <i>captator</i>, one who sucked up to a childless millionaire in order to inherit part or all of their estate.<br><br> 

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.10">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>As riche as Cresus Afric is:<br>
<span class="tab">for more yet hunts the chuffe:<br>
To muche to many, fortune gives,<br>
<span class="tab">and yet to none inuffe.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/12/mode/2up">Kendall</a> (1577)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fortune, some say, doth give too much to many:<br>
And yet she never gave enough to any.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Sir_John_Harington/hZ03AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22310%20fortune%22">Harington</a> (fl. c. 1600); Book 4, ep. 56; overall ep. 310]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>African has a thousand pounds in store,<br>
<span class="tab">Yet he desires, and hunts, and rakes for more:<br>
Fortune hath overmuch bestow'd on some;<br>
<span class="tab">But plenary content doth give to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22on%20africanus%22">Fletcher</a> (1656)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He fawns for more, though he his thousands touch:<br>
Fortune gives one enough, but some too much.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22fortune%20gives%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Millions has Africa; yet grasps at more:<br>
Too much have many, none sufficient store.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22on%20africanus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.65]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Africanus possesses a hundred thousand sesterces, but is always striving by servility to acquire more. Fortune gives too much to many, enough to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/122/mode/2up?q=%22sufficient+fortune%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3, ep. 92, "Sufficient Fortune"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Africanus possesses a hundred thousand sesterces, and yet covets more. Fortune gives too much to many, enough to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=Africanus%20possesses%20a%20hundred%20thousand%20sesterces%2C%20and%20yet%20covets%20more.%20Fortune%20gives%20too%20much%20to%20many%2C%20enough%20to%20none.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Fortune to many gives too much, enough to none.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22enough%20to%20none%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>African us possesses a hundred millions, yet he angles for more. Fortune to many gives too much, enough to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22africanus%20possesses%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although he is a millionaire,<br>
<span class="tab">He courts the rich who lack an heir;<br>
Fortune gives much to many a one,<br>
<span class="tab">But just enough she grants to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/374/mode/2up?q=millionaire">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Africanus has a hundred million, but still he fishes for legacies. Fortune gives too much to many, to none enough.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/98/mode/2up?q=africanus">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Africanus is a tireless legacy-hunter<br>
though he's a wealthy man.<br>
Fortune gives too much to many,<br>
enough to none<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=fortune">Kennelly</a> (2008)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Although worth millions, Africanus hunts a legacy.<br>
To many Fortune gives too much, enough to nobody.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/98/mode/2up?q=africanus">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Africanus has a hundred million, and still he's hunting legacies. Fortune gives too much to many, but "enough" to none.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&bsq=africanus">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rich know anger helps the cost of living: Hating&#8217;s more economical than giving. [Genus, Aucte, lucri divites habent iram: Odisse, quam donare, vilius constat.] &#8220;To Auctus.&#8221; Closely parallel to 3.37, to the point where some translations are cross-applied in error. The general interpretation, from Ker, is that &#8220;picking quarrels with clients saves you giving [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rich know anger helps the cost of living:<br />
Hating&#8217;s more economical than giving.</p>
<p><em>[Genus, Aucte, lucri divites habent iram:<br />
Odisse, quam donare, vilius constat.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  13 (12.13) (AD 101) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/354/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Auctus." Closely parallel to <a href="https://wist.info/martial/53494/">3.37</a>, to the point where some translations are cross-applied in error. The general interpretation, from <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22picking%20quarrels%22">Ker</a>, is that "picking quarrels with clients saves you giving them presents."<br><br> 

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.13">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Anger's a kind of gain that rich men know:<br>
It costs them less to hate than to bestow.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA550">Fletcher</a> (1656)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, my friend, by anger know to thrive.<br>
'Tis cheaper much to quarrel, than to give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22anger%20know%20to%20thrive%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>From ire can gainmongers elicit ore.<br>
Fell hate is frugal: love might lavish more.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=gainmongers">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.68]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ask you, last night, why Gripus ill behaved?<br>
A well-timed quarrel is a dinner saved.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA550">Halhead</a> (1793)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich, Auctus, make a species of gain out of anger.<br> 
It is cheaper to get into a passion than to give.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=The%20rich%2C%20Auctus%2C%20make%20a%20species%20of%20gain%20out%20of%20anger.%20It%20is%20cheaper%20to%20get%20into%20a%20passion%20than%20to%20give.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, Auctus, regard anger as a kind of profit; <br>
to hate is cheaper than to give!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22rich%20men,%20auctus%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich feign wrath -- a profitable plan;<br>
'Tis cheaper far to hate than help a man.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/376/mode/2up?q=%22rich+feign+wrath%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Rich men, Auctus, think of anger as a sort of moneymaking:<br> 
hating comes cheaper than giving.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://dokumen.pub/martial-epigrams-books-11-14-3-0674995295-9780674995291-k-4493753.html#:~:text=Rieh%20men%2C%20Auctus%2C%20think%20of%20anger%20as%20a%20sort%20of%20moneymaking%3A%20hating%20comes%20cheaper%20than%20giving.">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich pick fights and cause unpleasance:<br>
Hate is cheaper than giving presents.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>The rich believe it pays to get irate --<br>
to give is costlier, Auctus, than to hate.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.ie/books?id=SQwwBQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR7&pg=PR7#v=snippet&q=%22pays%20to%20get%20irate%22&f=false">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 12, epigram  20 (12.20) (AD 101) [tr. McLean (2014)]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Themison has no wife &#8212; and never missed her. Fabullus, you ask why? He has a sister. [Quare non habeat, Fabulle, quaeris Uxorem Themison? Habet sororem.] &#8220;To Fabullus.&#8221; Both Ker and Shackleton Bailey explicitly note that habet does, in fact, have a secondary meaning of &#8220;has sex with.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: You lately were [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Themison has no wife &#8212; and never missed her.<br />
Fabullus, you ask why? He has a sister.</p>
<p><em>[Quare non habeat, Fabulle, quaeris<br />
Uxorem Themison? Habet sororem.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  20 (12.20) (AD 101) [tr. McLean (2014)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/100/mode/2up?q=themison" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Fabullus." Both Ker and Shackleton Bailey explicitly note that <em>habet</em> does, in fact, have a secondary meaning of "has sex with." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.20">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You lately were inquiring, why Silvester<br>
Has not yet got a wife? -- He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=silvester">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why Themison has not a wife, nor e'er missed her,<br>
Fabullus, you ask? Honest Them has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22on%20themison%20to%20fabullus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, Fabullus, why Themison has not a wife? He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=Do%20you%20ask%2C%20Fabullus%2C%20why%20Themison%20has%20not%20a%20wife%3F%20He%20has%20a%20sister.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, Fabullus, why Themison has not got a wife? He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=themison">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You wonder how he lives unmarried? Cease<br>
To marvel, for his Reverence has a niece.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/378/mode/2up?q=%22lives+unmarried%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "The Alternative"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Do you ask, dear reader, why Themison<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Has no wife? Why, hell!<br>
The reason's rather obvious:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;His sister does as well!<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/138/mode/2up?q=themison">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Brother never<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;had a wife<br>
he had sister<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;all his life.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/330/mode/2up?q=%22Brother+never%22">Goertz</a> (1971)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Fabullus, you ask why Themison doesn't have a wife. He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/106/mode/2up?q=themison">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Why no wife? He quickly concedes<br>
His sister takes care of all his needs.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Of course we know he'll never wed.<br>
What? Put his sister out of bed?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22never%20wed%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He doesn't need a wife<br>
His sister is enough<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_Art/QPdaAAAAMAAJ?kptab=editions&gbpv=1&bsq=sister">Kennelly</a> (2008), "Enough"]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You want to know, Fabullus, why Themison doesn’t have a wife. He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://aleatorclassicus.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/martial-epigrams-12-20/">@aleatorclassicus</a> (2010)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Fabullus, do you want to know why Mr.<br>
Themison has no wife? He has a sister.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=fabullus+%22jim+powell%22&pg=PA467&printsec=frontcover">Powell</a>] </blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aper&#8217;s teetotal. So what? I commend Sobriety in a butler, not a friend. [Siccus, sobrius est Aper; quid ad me? Servum sic ego laudo, non amicum] &#8220;On Aper.&#8221; (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Tom never drinks: that I should much commend In Tom my coachman, but not Tom my friend. [tr. Hay (1755)] Frugal and sober, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aper&#8217;s teetotal. So what? I commend<br />
Sobriety in a butler, not a friend.</p>
<p><em>[Siccus, sobrius est Aper; quid ad me?<br />
Servum sic ego laudo, non amicum]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  30 (12.30) (AD 101) [tr. Michie (1972)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/164/mode/2up?q=teetotal" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"On Aper." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.30">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Tom never drinks: that I should much commend<br>
In Tom my coachman, but not Tom my friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22tom%20never%20drinks%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Frugal and sober, I commend<br>
In both, my servant; not my friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22frugal%20and%20sober%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 12.114]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Ned is a sober fellow, they pretend --<br>
Such would I have my coachman, not my friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Poetical_Epitome_Or_Extracts_Elegant/6s07AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22dukes%20in%20town%20ask%20thee%20to%20dine%22">Hoadley</a> (fl. 18th C), §245]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Aper is abstemious and sober. What is that to me? For such a quality I praise my slave, not my friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=Aper%20is%20abstemious%20and%20sober.%20What%20is%20that%20to%20me%3F%20For%20such%20a%20quality%20I%20praise%20my%20slave%2C%20not%20my%20friend.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>"Now Aper is a sober man;<br>
<span class="tab">He never had a jag on."<br>
Well, what of that? I wish my slaves,<br
<span class="tab">Not friends, to hate a flagon.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/94/mode/2up?q=aper">Nixon</a> (1911), "No Recommendation"] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aper is abstemious, sober: what is that to me? A slave I praise so, not a friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=abstemious">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He's sober and abstemious? One commends<br>
These qualities in slave, but not in friends.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/382/mode/2up?q=abstemious">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You're always sober, never drunk.<br>
<span class="tab">Such temperance is fine<br>
In servants and domestics, but<br>
<span class="tab">Not in a friend of mine.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/140/mode/2up?q=temperance">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aper is dry and sober. What is that to me? I commend a slave so, not a friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/114/mode/2up?q=%22dry+and+sober%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>He's a clean and sober fellow?<br>
<span class="tab">Well, what's that mean to me?<br>
He doesn't seem potential friend,<br>
<span class="tab">More like an employee.<br>
[tr. Ericsson (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Aper is dry and sober. What good is that to me? It’s what I praise a slave for, not a friend!<br>
[tr. @<a href="https://aleatorclassicus.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/martial-epigrams-12-30/">aleatorclassicus</a> (2013)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>So what if Aper's sober! I commend<br>
abstinence in a slave, not in a friend.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/100/mode/2up?q=abstinence">McLean</a> (2014)]</blockquote><br>
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		<description><![CDATA[Captious, yet kind; pleasant but testy too; I cannot bear to part, or live with you. [Difficillis facillis, iucundus acerbus es idem: Nec tecum possum vivere nec sine te.] Sometimes given as 12.46. Ker notes the second line is borrowed from Ovid, Amores, 3.9. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: In all thy humours, whether grave or [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captious, yet kind; pleasant but testy too;<br />
I cannot bear to part, or live with you.</p>
<p><em>[Difficillis facillis, iucundus acerbus es idem:<br />
Nec tecum possum vivere nec sine te.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  47 (12.47) (AD 101) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/386/mode/2up" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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 Sometimes given as 12.46. Ker <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22last%20line%20is%20borrowed%20from%20Ovid%22%22&pg=PA350&printsec=frontcover">notes</a> the second line is borrowed from Ovid, <i>Amores</i>, 3.9.<br><br>

(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.46">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>In all thy humours, whether grave or mellow,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou'rt such a touchy, testy, pleasant fellow;<br>
Hast so much wit, and mirth, and spleen about thee<br>
<span class="tab">There is no living with thee, or without thee.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Joseph_Addison_The_Spectato/1Z1KAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=addison%20spectator%20%22no%2068%22&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22all%20thy%20humours%22">Addison</a>, <i>The Spectator</i> No. 68 (1711-05-18)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Such stiffness, ease; such sweets and sours about thee!<br>
I cannot live, or with thee, or without thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA455&printsec=frontcover&bsq=455">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 12, #126]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Difficult and easy, churlish and pleasing; you are all of these, and yet one person; <br>
there is no living with thee, nor without thee.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/116/mode/2up?q=%22without+thee%22">Amos</a> (1858), ch. 3 #85]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou'rt merry, sad; easy, and hard to please;<br>
Nor with nor from thee can I live at ease.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_Martial/LzXgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA565">Wright</a> (<1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are at once morose and agreeable, pleasing and repulsive. <br>
I can neither live with you, nor without you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=You%20are%20at%20once%20morose%20and%20agreeable%2C%20pleasing%20and%20repulsive.%20I%20can%20neither%20live%20with%20you%2C%20nor%20without%20you.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Captious, yet complaisant, sweet and bitter too,<br>
I cannot with thee live, nor yet without thee.<br>
[ed. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Quotations_classical/2rSZy0yVFm8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22sweet%20and%20bitter%22">Harbottle</a> (1897)]</blockquote><br>




<blockquote>Difficult and easy-going, pleasant and churlish, you are at the same time: <br>
I can neither live with you nor without you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22nor%20without%20you%22&pg=PA351&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>O sweet and bitter in a breath,<br>
<span class="tab">O genial comrade, crusty friend,<br>
<span class="tab">Without thee life had sudden end,<br>
With thee to dwell were sudden death.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22sweet%20and%20bitter%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), #662]</blockquote><br>

 
<blockquote>There's something easy, difficult,<br>
<span class="tab">Hard and soft about you<br>
All the time. I cannot live<br>
<span class="tab">With you or without you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialselectede0000unse/page/144/mode/2up?q=%22easy+difficult%22">Marcellino</a> (1968)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>Amiable but unco-operative,<br>
<span class="tab">Sweet-natured but a grouse --<br>
Though I can't live without you, I can live<br>
<span class="tab">Without you in the house.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/170/mode/2up?q=%22amiable+but%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You are difficult and easy, pleasant and sour; and I can't live with you nor yet without you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/126/mode/2up?q=%22pleasant+and+sour%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993), 12.46]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>You're difficult and easy, sweet and tart.<br>
I cannot live with you, nor live apart.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/102/mode/2up?q=%22sweet+and+tart%22">McLean</a> (2014), 12.46] </blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Difficult or easy, pleasant or bitter, you are the same you:<br>
I cannot live with you -- or without you.<br>
[<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Dictionary_of_Quotations/o6rFno1ffQoC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Difficult%20or%20easy%2C%20pleasant%20or%20bitter%22&pg=PA498&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Difficult%20or%20easy%2C%20pleasant%20or%20bitter%22">Source</a>] </blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you pretend to fear you may be hit By pointed epigrams, the shafts of wit? To seem a worthy foeman you aspire, How vain alike the fear and the desire! Against fiercest bulls the lion&#8217;s wrath may rise, He scorns to war with puny butterflies. [Versus et breve vividumque carmen in te ne faciam [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you pretend to fear you may be hit<br />
<span class="tab">By pointed epigrams, the shafts of wit?<br />
To seem a worthy foeman you aspire,<br />
<span class="tab">How vain alike the fear and the desire!<br />
Against fiercest bulls the lion&#8217;s wrath may rise,<br />
<span class="tab">He scorns to war with puny butterflies.</p>
<p><em>[Versus et breve vividumque carmen<br />
in te ne faciam times, Ligurra,<br />
et dignus cupis hoc metu videri.<br />
sed frustra metuis cupisque frustra.<br />
in tauros Libyci fremunt leones,<br />
non sunt papilionibus molesti.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  61 (12.61.1-6) (AD 101) [tr. Pott &#038; Wright (1921)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/392/mode/2up?q=ligurra" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Ligurra". (<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D12%3Apoem%3D61#:~:text=Versus%20et%20breve,sunt%20papilionibus%20molesti.">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>You dread my verse, and sting of wit,<br>
<span class="tab">Which put you in a shaking fit:<br>
Would seem of rank to entertain<br>
<span class="tab">Such fears: your fears and hopes are vain.<br>
'Tis at the bull that lions fly,<br>
<span class="tab">While rats run unregarded by.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA205&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22dread%20my%20verse%22">Hay</a> (1755)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Lest a little living song<br>
<span class="tab">Make thy fame, Ligurra, long;<br>
Thou would'st have thy terror seen:<br>
<span class="tab">Vain thy wish as fear, I ween.<br>
At the bulls the lions rise,<br>
<span class="tab">Never rush on butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA147&printsec=frontcover">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 3, ep. 31]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are afraid, Ligurra, lest I should compose verses on you, some short and pungent epigram, and you wish to be thought a proper object of such rear. But vain is your fear. and vain your desire! Libyan lions rush upon bulls; they do not hurt butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=You%20are%20afraid%2C%20Ligurra%2C%20lest%20I%20should%20compose%20verses%20on%20you%2C%20some%20short%20and%20pungent%20epigram%2C%20and%20you%20wish%20to%20be%20thought%20a%20proper%20object%20of%20such%20rear.%20But%20vain%20is%20your%20fear.%20and%20vain%20your%20desire!%20Libyan%20lions%20rush%20upon%20bulls%3B%20they%20do%20not%20hurt%20butterflies.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You fear, Ligurra -- above all, you long -- <br>
<span class="tab">That I should smite you with a singing song, <br>
This dreadful honour you both fear and hope: <br>
<span class="tab">Both quite in vain: you fall below my scope. <br>
The Libyan lion tears the roaring bull,<br>
<span class="tab">He does not harm the midge along the pool.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/262/mode/2up?view=theater&q=%22you+fear+ligurra%22">Stevenson</a> (1884)]</blockquote><br>





<blockquote>You are afraid, Ligurra, I should write verses on you, and some short and lively poem, and you long to be thought a man that justifies such fear. But vain is your fear, and your longing is vain. Against bulls Libyan lions rage, they are not hostile to butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=ligurra&pg=PA363&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You say you're scared I'm going to aim<br>
<span class="tab">A lampoon  at you, something brief<br>
And lurid, and half proudly claim<br>
<span class="tab">You're a marked man. Wishful belief!<br>
Misapprehended apprehension!<br>
<span class="tab">African lions pay attention<br>
To bulls, they don't hunt butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/172/mode/2up?q=butterflies">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ligurra's fearful I'll contrive<br>
Some pungent piece, some sprightly ditty,<br>
And longs to be considered worth it.<br>
Longings baseless! Baseless fears!<br>
The Libyan lion paws the Libyan bull<br>
But does not bat the butterfly.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/fZWq0MP5XQUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA485&printsec=frontcover&bsq=ligurra's%20fearful">Whigham</a> (1987)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are afraid, Ligurra, of my writing verses against you, a brief, lively poem, and you long to seem worthy of such an apprehension. But idle is your fear and idle your desire. Libyan lions roar at bulls, they do not trouble butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/142/mode/2up?q=%22ligurra%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Ah Ligurra, you’re quite afraid that I might write<br>
<span class="tab">About you. Some nasty, pithy, diamond-shard of spite<br>
As is my wont. In fact, you quite like the idea.<br>
<span class="tab">Well, don’t get your hopes up I’ll gratify that fear.<br>
I may be beastly but I claw with discretion,<br>
<span class="tab">No stepping on insects, flattered to be flattened.<br>
[tr. <a href="http://www.druidic.org/poetry.htm#:~:text=Martial%3A%20Epigrams.%20Book%20XII%3A%2061">Ynys-Mon</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>



<blockquote>You fear I'll write a brief and lively poem<br>
attacking you, Ligurra, and you yearn<br>
to seem one who would merit such a fear.<br>
<span class="tab">Your wish is vain and so is your concern.<br>
Lions of Libya roar at bulls; they leave<br>
butterflies unmolested. <br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/102/mode/2up?q=butterflies">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>





<blockquote>Ligurra, you fear that I might compose<br>
Verses against you, a brief, intense poem --<br>
Oh how you long to seem worthy of this fear.<br>
But you fear in vain, in vain you long.<br>
The Libyan lions growl at bulls;<br>
They do not pester butterflies.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2018/06/23/a-poem-your-heart-desires/">@sentantiq</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>

See also <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Works_of_Ben_Jonson_in_Nine_Volumes/VvcbYZvB_iUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=jonson%20%22Sir%20Inigo%20doth%20fear%20it%2C%20as%20I%20hear%22&pg=PA120&printsec=frontcover&bsq=jonson%20%22Sir%20Inigo%20doth%20fear%20it%2C%20as%20I%20hear%22">Ben Jonson</a> (1572-1637):<br><br>

<blockquote>Sir Inigo doth fear it, as I hear,<br>
<span class="tab">And labors to seem worthy of that fear,<br>
That I should write upon him some sharpe verse,<br>
<span class="tab">Able to eat into his bones, and pierce<br>
Their marrow. Wretch! I quit thee of thy pain,<br>
<span class="tab">Thou'rt too <i>ambitious</i>, and dost fear in vain:<br>
The Lybian lion hunts no butterflies,<br>
<span class="tab">He makes the camel and dull ass his prize.</blockquote><br>						</span>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thou morning client, this is my retreat:<br />
<span class="tab">Go to the town and palace of the great.<br />
No lawyer I, nor can your cause defend;<br />
<span class="tab">But old, and idle, and the muse&#8217;s friend.<br />
Ease and repose I love, but if in vain<br />
<span class="tab">I seek them here; why not to town again?</p>
<p><em>[Matutine cliens, urbis mihi causa relictae,<br />
Atria, si sapias, ambitiosa colas.<br />
Non sum ego causidicus, nec amaris litibus aptus,<br />
Sed piger et senior Pieridumque comes;<br />
tia me somnusque iuvant, quae magna negavit<br />
Roma mihi: redeo, si vigilatur et hic.]</em></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  68 (12.68) (AD 101) [tr. Hay (1755)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=martial%20epigrams%20hay&pg=PA207&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22thou%20morning%20client%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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(<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.68">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Whoe'er in town dist morning-homage pay,<br>
<span class="tab">And wast one cause, why thence I win'd my way;<br>
Hunt now ambition's hants, let me advise;<br>
<span class="tab">And learn, at least in this, learn to be wise.<br>
I am no brangler, nor can hairs untwine:<br>
<span class="tab">My growing age asks ease, yet woos the Nine.<br>
Scenes are my joy, for which at Rome I sigh'd:<br>
<span class="tab">But thither I return, if here deni'd.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA127&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22Hunt%20now%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), Book 2, ep. 136]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>O clients, that beset me in the morning, and who were the cause of my departure from Rome, frequent, if you are wise, the lordly mansions of the city. I am no lawyer, nor fitted for pleading troublesome causes, but inactive, somewhat advanced in years, and a votary of the Pierian sisters. I wish to enjoy repose and slumber, which great Rome denied; but I must return thither, if I am to be equally hunted here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=O%20clients%2C%20that,equally%20hunted%20here.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Morning client, the cause of my leaving Rome, you would court, were you wise, the halls of greatness. No pleader am I, nor fitted for bitter lawsuits, but an indolent man and one growing old, and the comrade of the Muses. Ease and sleep attract me, and great Rome denied me these; I return if I am sleepless even here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22morning%20client%22&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I fled from Rome and early calls,<br>
<span class="tab">So, Spanish friends, I pray you,<br>
Be wise and seek the lordly halls<br>
<span class="tab">Of those who can repay you.<br>
I hate the courts, and legal strife<br>
<span class="tab">My lazy mind refuses,<br>
For I am getting on in life<br>
<span class="tab">And love to serve the Muses;<br>
Unbroken sleep I love; the stir<br>
<span class="tab">And din of Rome destroy it;<br>
But I am going back to her<br>
<span class="tab">If here I can't enjoy it.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/394/mode/2up">Pott & Wright</a> (1921)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Poor morning client (you remind me<br>
<span class="tab">Of all I loathed and left behind me<br>
in Rome), if you had any nous<br>
<span class="tab">Instead of calling on my house<br>
You'd haunt the mansions of the great.<br>
<span class="tab">I'm not some wealthy advocate<br>
Blessed with a sharp, litigious tongue,<br>
<span class="tab">I'm just a lazy, far from young<br>
Friend of the Muses who likes ease<br>
<span class="tab">And sleep. Great Rome denied me these:<br>
If I can't find them even in Spain,<br>
<span class="tab">I may as well go back again.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/174/mode/2up?q=%22morning+client%22">Michie</a> (1972)]</blockquote><br>


<blockquote>Morning client, reason why I left Rome, if you were sensible, you wuiold dance attendance on pretentious halls. I am no advocate nor apt for bitter lawsuits, but lazy and elderly and a companion of the Pierian maids. I am fond of leisure and sleep, which great Rome denied me. If I'm kept awake here too, I go back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/148/mode/2up?q=%22morning+client%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You want a patron, and you pester me --<br>
<span class="tab">Exactly what made me the City flee.<br>
You're not at some ambitious lawyer's door.<br>
<span class="tab">A poet now retired, I'd rather snore.<br>
If Rome you are inflicting on me here,<br>
<span class="tab">Then backward to the real one I must steer.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT3&printsec=frontcover&bsq=12.68">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You early-morning client -- you're the reason I left Rome. If you had sense, you'd hang around the lobbies of people who care about appearances. I'm no barrister, I've no head for bitter litigation: I'm sleepy, I'm getting old, I hang out with the Muses; what I like is free time and sleep, the very things that mighty Rome wouldn't let me have. If there are early mornings even here, I'm going back.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/AqHKBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR5&printsec=frontcover&bsq=%22reason%20I%20left%20rome%22">Nisbet</a> (2015)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Morning appointment -- my reason for leaving the city --<br>
If you knew better, you would visit more ambitious homes.<br>
I am no lawyer, no man prepared for harsh suits,<br>
I am a lazy and aging friend of the Muses.<br>
Sleep and leisure make me happy -- the very things<br>
Which Rome denied me. But I’ll go back if I can’t sleep here.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://sententiaeantiquae.com/2018/06/18/martial-on-his-summer-sleep-schedule/">@sentantiq</a> (2018)]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 12, epigram  92 (12.92) (AD 101) [tr. Nixon (1911)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My ethical state, Were I wealthy and great, Is a subject you wish I&#8217;d reply on. Now who can foresee What his morals might be? What would yours be if you were a lion? &#160; [Saepe rogare soles, qualis sim, Prisce, futurus, Si fiam locuples simque repente potens. Quemquam posse putas mores narrare futuros? Dic [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="tab">My ethical state,<br />
<span class="tab">Were I wealthy and great,<br />
Is a subject you wish I&#8217;d reply on.<br />
<span class="tab">Now who can foresee<br />
<span class="tab">What his morals might be?<br />
What would yours be if you were a lion?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<em>[Saepe rogare soles, qualis sim, Prisce, futurus,<br />
Si fiam locuples simque repente potens.<br />
Quemquam posse putas mores narrare futuros?<br />
Dic mihi, si fias tu leo, qualis eris?]</em></span></span></span></span></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 12, epigram  92 (12.92) (AD 101) [tr. Nixon (1911)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://archive.org/details/romanwitepigrams00mart/page/106/mode/2up?q=lion" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"To Priscus." (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:12.92">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Priscus! you've often ask'd me how I'd live,<br>
<span class="tab">Should Fate at once both wealth and honour give?<br>
What soul his future conduct can foresee?<br>
<span class="tab">Tell me what sort of lion you would be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.johnsonessays.com/the-rambler/no-172-the-effect-of-sudden-riches-upon-the-manners/#:~:text=Priscus%2C%20you%E2%80%99ve%20often%20ask%E2%80%99d%20me%20how%20I%E2%80%99d%20live%2C%0AShould%20fate%20at%20once%20both%20wealth%20and%20honour%20give.%0AWhat%20soul%20his%20future%20conduct%20can%20foresee%3F%0ATell%20me%20what%20sort%20of%20lion%20you%20would%20be.">Lewis</a> (<1752)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What would I do, the question you repeat,<br>
<span class="tab">if on a sudden I were rich and great?<br>
Who can himself with future conduct charge?<br>
<span class="tab">What would you do, a lion, and at large?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Select_Epigrams_of_Martial/guUNAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22a%20lion%20and%20at%20large%22">Hay</a> (1755), ep. 93]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You've often been used, <i>my good friend,</i> for to ask<br>
<span class="tab">What sort of man I might prove<br>
Was I <i>rich</i> or soon <i>great?</i> but 'tis no easy talk,<br>
<span class="tab">For 'faith I can't tell you, by Jove!<br>
For who do You think, of the men that are here<br>
<span class="tab">Can his manners divine, that You see?<br>
And was you as <i>Jonathan's bull</i> or a <i>bear,</i><br>
<span class="tab">Pray what sort of <i>beast</i> would you be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialinenglish00mart/page/202/mode/2up?q=%22what+sort+of+beast%22">Scott</a> (1773)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Thou asketh oft, how I should brook the hour,<br>
<span class="tab">Of wealth o'erwhelming, and resistless pow'r.<br>
His future self what seer can prophesy?<br>
<span class="tab">What lion, Priscus, should'st thou make? Reply.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20lion%20priscus%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), 2.143]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Priscus! you often ask me what wouild be my future conduct, if I were made suddenly rich or powerful? Who can be competent to judge of his future character under such contingencies? Tell me, if you were metamorphosed into a lion, what kind of lion would you be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialmoderns00mart/page/112/mode/2up?q=%22changes+of+character%22">Amos</a> (1858), ep. 94]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You often ask me, Priscus, what sort of person I should be, if I were to become suddenly rich and powerful. Who can determine what would be his future conduct? Tell me, if you were to become a lion, what sort of a lion would you be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book12.htm#:~:text=You%20often%20ask%20me%2C%20Priscus%2C%20what%20sort%20of%20person%20I%20should%20be%2C%20if%20I%20were%20to%20become%20suddenly%20rich%20and%20powerful.%20Who%20can%20determine%20what%20would%20be%20his%20future%20conduct%3F%20Tell%20me%2C%20if%20you%20were%20to%20become%20a%20lion%2C%20what%20sort%20of%20a%20lion%20would%20you%20be%3F">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are often wont to ask me what sort of person I should be, Priscus, if I became rich and were suddenly powerful. Do you think any man can declare his character in the future? Tell me, if you became a lion, what sort of lion will you be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22what%20sort%20of%20lion%22">Ker</a> (1919)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>What should I be if great and rich? <br>
That is the sort of question which <br>
<span class="tab">One cannot prophesy on;<br>
Apply it to yourself: e.g.,<br>
What sort of lion will you be <br>
<span class="tab">If you become a lion?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialtwelveboo0000tran/page/400/mode/2up?q=%22What+sort+of+lion%22">Pott & Wright</a> (1921), "Riddles"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You often ask me, Priscus, how I'ld use<br>
<span class="tab">My fortune if I stood in rich men's shoes.<br>
'Tis hard forecasting the effect of pelf;<br>
<span class="tab">What sort of lion would you make, yourself?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/g35fAAAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22sort%20of%20lion%22">Francis & Tatum</a> (1924), ep. 687]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Your question: would my character,<br> 
<span class="tab">And how, change if I suddenly were <br>
Powerful and rich? Who can foresee <br>
<span class="tab">The sort of person he might be? <br>
Supposing, Priscus, you became <br>
<span class="tab">A lion, would you be fierce or tame?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/epigrams0000mart/page/178/mode/2up?q=priscus">Michie</a> (1972)] </blockquote><br>

<blockquote>You are wont to ask me, Priscus, what sort of person I should be if I were suddenly to become rich and powerful. Do you suppose that anybody can foretell his character? Tell me, if you were to become a lion, what would <i>you</i> be like?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/164/mode/2up?q=%22You+are+wont+to+ask+me%2C+Priscus%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Priscus, your perennial party game<br>
<span class="tab">Is "How would <i>you</i> handle wealth and power?"<br>
Who knows? But back at you the same: <br>
<span class="tab">If <i>you</i> were a lion, would you rage or cower?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN6101057747">Ericsson</a> (1995)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>If I were what I am not, rich,<br>
<span class="tab">Would I become a king?<br>
If you were what you are not, brave,<br>
<span class="tab">Would you be anything?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Martial_s_Epigrams/13X80r3_zQIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22not%20rich%22">Wills</a> (2007)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>Priscus, you often ask what I'd be like<br>
<span class="tab">if I got wealth and power suddenly.<br>
Can anyone foretell his future conduct?<br>
<span class="tab">If you were a lion, what kind would you be?<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/selectedepigrams0000mart_b6d3/page/106/mode/2up?q=%22you+were+a+lion%22">McLean</a> (2014)] </blockquote><br>
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		<title>Martial -- Epigrams [Epigrammata], Book 14, epigram  39 (14.39) (AD 84-85) [tr. Whigham (1987)]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me are bedroom joys revealed, Enjoy at will, my lips are sealed. [Dulcis conscia lectuli lucerna, Quidquid vis facias licet, tacebo.] &#8220;A Bedside Lamp [Lucerna cubicularis]&#8221;. (Source (Latin)). Other translations: Privy to nocturnal glee; Nought I say, of all I see. [tr. Elphinston (1782), &#8220;The Chamber-Lamp,&#8221; Book 11, ep. 17] I am a night-lamp, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me are bedroom joys revealed,<br />
Enjoy at will, my lips are sealed.</p>
<p><em>[Dulcis conscia lectuli lucerna,<br />
Quidquid vis facias licet, tacebo.]</em></p>
<br><b>Martial</b> (AD c.39-c.103) Spanish Roman poet, satirist, epigrammatist [Marcus Valerius Martialis]<br><i>Epigrams [Epigrammata]</i>, Book 14, epigram  39 (14.39) (AD 84-85) [tr. Whigham (1987)] 
									<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial_Englished_by_Divers/ZLDoDwAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22joys%20revealed%22" target="_blank">Source</a>)
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"A Bedside Lamp <i>[Lucerna cubicularis]"</i>. (<a href="http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:latinLit:phi1294.phi002.perseus-lat1:14.39">Source (Latin)</a>). Other translations:<br><br>

<blockquote>Privy to nocturnal glee;<br>
Nought I say, of all I see.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Epigrams_of_M_Val_Martial/vksOAAAAQAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22chamber-lamp%22">Elphinston</a> (1782), "The Chamber-Lamp," Book 11, ep. 17]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am a night-lamp, privy to the pleasures of the couch; do whatever you please, I shall be silent.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/martial_epigrams_book14.htm#:~:text=I%20am%20a%20night%2Dlamp%2C%20privy%20to%20the%20pleasures%20of%20the%20couch%3B%20do%20whatever%20you%20please%2C%20I%20shall%20be%20silent.">Bohn's Classical</a> (1859), "A Night-Lamp"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am a lamp, privy to the pleasures of your couch: you may do what you will, I shall be silent.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams/RIxiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bedroom%20lamp%22">Ker</a> (1920), "A Bedroom Lamp"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>A lamp am I, aware of your joy in bed:<br>
Do what you will, not one word will be said.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Epigrams_of_Martial/BHtfAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22aware+of+your+joy+in+bed%22&dq=%22aware+of+your+joy+in+bed%22&printsec=frontcover">Bovie</a> (1970)]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I am a lamp, confidante of your sweet bed. You may do whatever you will, I shall be silent.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://archive.org/details/martialepigrams0003unse/page/242/mode/2up?q=%22bedroom+lamp%22">Shackleton Bailey</a> (1993), "Bedroom Lamp"]</blockquote><br>

<blockquote>I show but do not countenance what you do.<br>
Douse me. The only record is in you.<br>
[tr. <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Rest_on_the_Flight/kNoWim12a38C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22show+but+do+not+countenance%22&pg=PA142&printsec=frontcover">Porter</a> (2010), "A Bedside Light"]</blockquote><br>						</span>
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