The modern conservative is not even especially modern. He is engaged, on the contrary, in one of man’s oldest, best financed, most applauded, and, on the whole, least successful exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. It is an exercise which always involves a certain number of internal contradictions and even a few absurdities. The conspicuously wealthy turn up urging the character-building value of privation for the poor. The man who has struck it rich in minerals, oil, or other bounties of nature is found explaining the debilitating effect of unearned income from the state. The corporate executive who is a superlative success as an organization man weighs in on the evils of bureaucracy. Federal aid to education is feared by those who live in suburbs that could easily forgo this danger, and by people whose children are in public schools. Socialized medicine is condemned by men emerging from Walter Reed Hospital. Social Security is viewed with alarm by those who have the comfortable cushion of an inherited income. Those who are immediately threatened by public efforts to meet their needs — whether widows, small farmers, hospitalized veterans, or the unemployed — are almost always oblivious to the danger.

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John Kenneth Galbraith (1908-2006) Canadian-American economist, diplomat, author
Speech (1963-12-13), “Wealth and Poverty,” National Policy Committee on Pockets of Poverty
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Galbraith used variations on this quote over the years.
  • The above quotation was from a speech given, that was then entered into the Congressional Record, Vol. 109, Senate (1963-12-18).
  • This material was reworked into an article "Let us begin: An invitation to action on poverty," in Harper's (1964-03), which was in turn again entered into the Congressional Record, Vol. 110 (1964).
  • One of the last is most often cited: "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. It is an exercise which always involves a certain number of internal contradictions and even a few absurdities. The conspicuously wealthy turn up urging the character-building value of privation for the poor." ["Stop the Madness," Interview with Rupert Cornwell, Toronto Globe and Mail (2002-07-06)]

 
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  3. Crash Skeptic

    How can a quote Galbraith supposedly said in 2002 appear in a book of quotations published in 1993?

  4. That’s one of the issues with the quote. It’s commonly cited as 2002 in the G&M , but it is (was — the page is no longer visible) also quoted in a 1993 book. Galbraith using the core phrase (“superior moral justification for selfishness”) can also be found in a 1998 book, another 1998 book, etc.

    The bottom line seems to be that Galbraith used variants of the quote over the years, but the 2002 version was the one that was most visible when the quote “took off” (perhaps on his death in 2006) and so was used as the common citation.

  5. I think you’ll find the earliest version is this, from 1964:

    “The modern conservative is not even especially modern. He is engaged, on the contrary, in one of man’s oldest, best financed, most applauded, and, on the whole, least successful exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

    Galbraith “Let us begin: An invitation to action on poverty”, Congressional record: Proceedings and debates of the 88th Congress, Second session (1964) volume 110, part 3, page 4075.

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  6. Thanks, Jay. I actually (as noted above) found an earlier set of references (from 1963), but you set me on that course; I appreciate it.

  7. A man of rare dignity and genius. The longer I live, the more trenchant this particular observation of his becomes.

    (side-eyes the Fraser Institute)

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  9. Time for another “State of the WIST” post. I last ran this report in December 2021, so this is more of a 3-quarter update than annual.
    I’ve been pretty consistent about getting new quotes loaded in over the past year — my goal is 5-6 quotes posted per weekday. A gradually increasing number of quotes in my backlog turn out to be ones that I already have in the system, in which case, if I end up making substantive improvements (finding the sourcing, adding notes, expanding alternate translations), I count that upgrade as a “new” quote in my head for purposes doing my quotational duty (even if it doesn’t actually add to the “count,” doesn’t show up on the front page, and doesn’t go into my RSS feed).
    What’s happened over here since last time?
    Some changes that took place on the WordPress site the past year:

    Did a sweep through of some authors whose citations were all sorts of whacky-inconsistent. This often uncovered duplicates, which I cleaned out (more on that below).
    The tool I used to automatically mirror posts on this site (both new and upgraded) to my Diaspora* site has stopped working, so for the time being I am doing that manually (it adds a couple of minutes to each post).
    Feedburner finally shut down.
    Took concrete steps toward getting the theme updated to be responsive to different sized screens (more below).

    Doing the Numbers
    Let’s look at the numbers:
    Quotation counts
    So continued progress, despite some housecleaning.
    Broken out into a graph (and normalizing the time frame):
    Author and Quotes Graph
    Limited Return to Office time does help keep those numbers up.
    Note that, as always, all of these quotations are personally curated to some degree or another — digging out citations and online links when possible, finding author photos, etc. No mass uploads for me.
    I currently stand at 685 quotes flagged as meme/visual quotations. That number’s gone up a bit since last year, though slowly; I generate one of these every few weeks.
    Top Authors
    Of the authors I have, who are the most quoted in WIST?
    Top quoted authors
    As the numbers get higher, it’s harder folk to do more than shuffle around, esp. barring I find any massive new source of quotations. Nobody was added this year to the list, or dropped, just adjusted in rank — Jefferson and Lewis swapped position, as they had in the 12/2021 list.
    The actual quote count for Emerson, Shakespeare, and Shaw actually went down, as I did a clean-up of duplicates I had of them.
    This table is more for curiosity’s sake than any real meaning, showing not just how prolific these folk are, but how interested I am in recording things these individuals said.
    The Top Ten Author list is shown “live” in the sidebar (“Prolific Authors“).
    Top Quotations
    Here are the Top 10 Most Visited Quotations Ever (with how they’ve changed since last December 2021). I find these interesting, since it’s not driven anything I do, but page hits by visitors:

    – (10,505, was 9,374) John Kenneth Galbraith, “Wealth and Poverty,” speech, National Policy Committee on Pockets of Poverty (13 Dec 1963)
    – (6,743, was 6,464) Aeschylus, Agamemnon, ll. 175-183 [tr. Johnston (2007)]
    – (6,288, was 6,177) Robert Frost, “The Lesson for Today,” A Witness Tree (1942)
    – (5,716, was 5,476) Bertand Russell, “The Triumph of Stupidity” (10 May 1933)
    – (4,972, was 4,938) John Steinbeck, Nobel prize acceptance speech (10 Dec 1962)
    ↑ (4,910, was 4,512) Fran Lebowitz, “Tips for Teens,” Social Studies (1981)
    ↑ (4,678, was 4,008) Rainer Maria Rilke, Letter to Clara Rilke (1 Jan 1907)
    ↓ (4,649 was 4,590) William Hazlitt, “On The Conduct of Life” (1822)
    ♥ (4,407, new on list) Plato, Republic, Book 1, 347c
    – (4,346, was 3,947) Isaac Asimov, “A Cult of Ignorance,” Newsweek (21 Jan 1980)

    Some actual movement here, with the Lebowitz and Rilke quotes that entered the Top 10 last time rising in the standings, at the expense of pushing Hazlitt down and sadly losing a long-standing and fine James Baldwin quote.
    Over 2022 to date, the Top 10 viewed quotes were, according to Google Analytics:

    ↑ 933 views – PlatoRepublic, Book 1, 347c
    – 857 views – Galbraith, John Kenneth“Wealth and Poverty,” speech, National Policy Committee on Pockets of Poverty (13 Dec 1963)
    ↑ 700 views – Aristotle(Attributed)
    ♥ 676 views – HomerThe Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 6, l. 180ff (6.180) [Odysseus to Nausicaa] (c. 700 BC) [tr. Rieu (1946)]
    ↑ 645 views – Sa’adiPoem on Humanity
    ↓ 589 views – Rilke, Rainer MariaLetter to Clara Rilke (1 Jan 1907)
    ↑ 495 views – Franz KafkaLetter to Oskar Pollak (27 Jan 1904)
    ♥ 388 views – AristotleNicomachean Ethics [Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια] (c. 325 BC) (paraphrase)
    ↓ 347 views – Lamb, Charles“The Two Races of Men,” Essays of Elia (1823)
    ↓ 346 views – Fran Lebowitz, “Tips for Teens,” Social Studies (1981)

    Dropping from the list were a Voltaire, and one of the few “Other” quotes to previously rank this high (it came out at #11 for the period).
    Several, but by no means all, of the above have a graphic image / meme associated with them on their page, and many are the overall Top 10 list. But a few are new to the list this year; the Homer (which was added this year) and the second Aristotle (which I did updates on).
    Who Are You People?
    As Google Analytics gets more complex, figuring out old simplistic stats becomes a bit more difficult. As far as I can tell, though compared to the end of 2021, I am getting 128 visitors / day (vs 127) and 168 pages visited / day (vs 151). So traffic is fairly stable, despite mobile data downchecks from Google (see below).
    Over in social media, I’m posting to Twitter (143 followers, up from 134). I have 69 contacts on my Diaspora* mirror (up from 50), and I actually get some good engagement over there with likes and discussion.
    Those numbers aren’t huge, by any means — but this is a labor of love, and it’s nice to see that some folk are finding it of use and/or interest.
    Gender (identified in 32% of visitors), splits 51-49 female-male. For age (identified in 30% of visitors), the 18-24 visitors are 28% (college papers, I assume), 25-34 cohort is 20%, 35-44 is 17%, 45-54 is 14%, 55-64 and 65+ cohorts are about 10%.
    Not surprisingly, for language the vast majority (82%) of visitors to WIST.info are flagged as one flavor or another of English-speaker, with the US (65%) and UK (13%) topping the list (about where they were last December). From a national representation (where users were so identified), 53% were from the US, 7% from the UK, 5% from India, another 5% from Canada, and 2% from Australia.
    Browser-wise, Chrome retains the lead at 55%, with Safari at 27%, Edge and Firefox just about 5% each. That’s interesting to cross-reference with OS, where Windows is 33% of the users, iOS and Mac each another 20%, and Android at 19%. The iOS and Android numbers are interesting, given my site’s “unfriendliness” to mobile users (see below). None of those numbers have changed substantially since 2021.
    The Year Ahead
    The biggest plan I have for WIST in the next few months is that I’ve hired someone to put in a responsive theme. Google is consistently (and not without justification) dinging my rankings because my site is “unfriendly” to mobile users (text too small, links too close together, etc.). A responsive theme will adjust the display automatically for different sized screens (PC vs mobile, for example).
    The complexity here is that I have highly customized my post display (post titles as citation titles, e.g.), which means it can’t just be done out of the box, and, honestly, it exceeds my own limited programming ability. So I’m going to be hiring someone from outside to make it happen. I have a project requirements document prepared, I’ve had one failed attempt on UpWork … let’s see if I can get it done.
    Other goals?

    Continue backfilling tags as I come across quotes that have captured my eye again. Maybe do some tag cleanup (there are some that are redundant — plural vs singular) and others where I’ve inadvertently concatenated terms).
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    Continue work on parallel translations of foreign works.

    And that’s the end of the Q3 report for 2022. See you next time I get an urge to do this!

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